iphone4, some questions about vo
Hello all, I have some more questions about the iphone 4 with voiceover: How can I transfer a (pdf) document to my iphone to read it on the move? (I don't have MobileMe). I see already some options: bluetooth, by mail or? Or, is it also with itunes, like music? And, where can I find the uploaded files to my iphone since the iphone isn't visible in the finder as a external drive? thanx for your answers William -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New ITunes, what do you all think?
He all, before installing the new version, I would like to know if the workflow-issues , since itunes 10 are fixed? I mean, the workflow tom make a spoken track from selected text etc... thanx for your answers best regards, William Op 26-sep-2010, om 07:37 heeft Sarah Alawami het volgende geschreven: > OhI show discovered that you can use cmd shift r to show an item in the > finder. > > Good luck. > On Sep 25, 2010, at 6:09 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> I have noticed a few differences. First, you can no longer press command R >> to show the iTem your on in the Finder. Now you have to interact with the >> media table, bring up the context menu with VO shift M and arrow down to >> show in finder. Pressing Command R now refreshes iTunes. Girr! I liked it >> the way it was before. lol. They have also brought back the LCD section. >> This is a plus in my opinion. Those are the things I've noticed so far. >> >> hth >> >> On Sep 25, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Lynn Schneider wrote: >> >>> Well, I downloaded the new ITunes today. There is a Ping sidebar that I >>> had to hide. I still can't use my VO-J to jump to the table. Other than >>> that, it seems like it is the same. I would use Ping, but honestly, I'm up >>> to my ears in social media these days and really don't want anymore. LOL. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: bad request: screenprotector iphone4 clasic from solona
He Anne, Thankyou for the hint. I've finally added him to me skypelist but he isn't online anymore I think. Thanx for your help. best regards, William Op 24-sep-2010, om 23:21 heeft Anne Robertson het volgende geschreven: > Hello William, > > The GMail address you have is the best way of contacting Bernard Maldonado. > There is no real company, just Bernard himself, so he should be able to sort > out your problem. > > His Skype name is: bernardmaldonado > > He's on Skype at the moment so we've just alerted him to your problem. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 24 Sep 2010, at 20:48, William Windels wrote: > >> He all, >> I think I have made a bad request for a screenprotector for the iphone4. >> at the last screen , I saw that I had bought a screenrprotector with a >> braillekeyboard for the ipad. >> That costs much more. >> >> But, I haven't had a confirmation by mail so, is my request valid? >> >> I haven't seen also a overview of my request before paying, is this normal? >> >> I found the address: mysol...@gmail.com and I have explained my problem in >> this mail. >> >> some questions: >> Can I verify my real request? >> Can I contact more fast the company: there was a Skype address but it seems >> not valid anymore. >> or, other hints are welcome. >> >> best regards, >> William >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Add to iTunes as a spoken track - Which voice to use?
Hello all, For me, this doesn't work for me also since version 10 of itunes. The problem is known but not fixate yet by Apple :( I have tried the guides on the internet to solve this but without success. best regards, William Op 12-okt-2010, om 16:57 heeft Nicolai Svendsen het volgende geschreven: > Hi Sarah! > > THanks, I'd appreciate it. It's when making the track itself, not just using > the Speech option that it doesn't work. The Speech item itself works fine, > just not when converting it from text. > > Regards, > Nic > On Oct 12, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Really? I got it work a few months ago. Unless there was an update that >> recked it I dunno. I'm headin g out the door at the moment or soon and need >> to finish getting ready to go but of no one else has tried by the time I get >> back we'll try it out and post the results. >> On Oct 12, 2010, at 6:57 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah >>> >>> Could you retry that again, please? Because that's not working for me at >>> all. No changes except in rate. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Oct 12, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> You do it inthe services menu when you are focused on the program you want to do it in. I change my default voice actually and that sets the pref for the voice. Good luck. On Oct 12, 2010, at 4:45 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Nic, > > Sorry I don't have an answer to your question, but I'm wondering how do > you add txt as a spoken track? > Thanks, > Donna > On Oct 12, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi everybody! >> >> So, I've kind of been tinkering around with the feature to add a text to >> iTunes as a track. The native service works great, and it even >> overwrites your system speech rate preference if using the [[rate >> ]] parameter above the block of text highlighted. >> >> The issue appears when you want to use another voice. Apparently,it does >> not take this into account and always will use Alex, even if you change >> the system voice which seems a bit silly to me. I have a Danish text I'd >> love to read on my iPhone when I'm flying to the Netherlands on Saturday >> without using the built-in TTS, mainly because of the bit rate and >> because of a lot of pronunciation problems. >> >> Is there another parameter I can insert that will basically overwrite >> the preference that Apple apparently "wants" me to use? This has kind of >> made me a bit annoyed already. I am gonna submit this to accessibility >> either way, but I'd still like to know if there is a workaround >> preferably with the native service built in >> . >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
Hello all, I agree that tables isn't handled very well in pages. Also numbers, is accessible but it's missing some navigation-features for everyone like you have in ms excel. Kenotes isn't very accessible at this moment... Safari is very bad at this moment : braille in formfields, voiceover is crashing when you want to give feedback on itunes :( and... busy busy busy. There are also other sites that voiceover can't access because it's restarting constantly. Also, when you have parts of text in tables, you cant jump to this parts with (shift)vo+command+n like you can do on webpages. So, it's my experience that you need to explore the table cel by cel and this can be very frustrated. I agree also that it would be nice if you can make different configs for different programs but I don't think they will do that. There should be more config-options for the braille-display: specify the representations of different controls in the os like links, checkboxes, comboboxes, radio buttons... Also, the information on the brailledisplay should be independent of the speech. It's not always interesting e.g. to have tooltips on the brailledisplay and the brailledisplay should not show dots 7 and 8 below a text because it's in the voiceover-cursor. As I understand well, everything on a brailledisplay is in the vo-cursor. If so, it doesn't make any sence to underline. On windows, the dots 7 and 8 are also used to show e.g. italic, bold, underline in programs but here, this isn't possible. I agree that it's not the main task of Apple to make tird party applications accessible but, it would be nice if they should make a user-friendly environment to adjust the representation of voiceover in programs that aren't accessible out of the box. e.g , firefox is a very good browser but, the developers aren't willing to make it accessible with voiceover. So, we have only 1 fully supported webbrowser and, is something works bad with that browser, like no, we have no alternative. The developers of opera will help but , I think it goes slow. It's normal that programs have bugs, for shore in the beginning but, they should make a kind of interface so that we can make a complete and efficient bugreport of something in voiceover. And ..., they have implemented a drag and drop function with the keyboard in 10.6 but, it seems not to work at all. I mean, it's not doing the same for us as for sighted users. About other voices in osx: it would be nice to have the same voices pre-installed like in ios4 but, it's not a priority for me. I can't understand the way Apple is taking care about their software: Since itunes version 10, workflows aren't working anymore. We have waited several weeks for itunes 10.0.1 and the workflow problems aren't still fixed. At the moment. No, it's fixed for me with the howto's on the internet but the debug-jobs are something for Apple, not for the customers. That's my opinion. And also in this case: this problem belong to everyone , not only vo-users. So, this is the most important of my frustrations :) best regards, William Windels Op 15-okt-2010, om 22:53 heeft Justin Ekis het volgende geschreven: > I have three enhancements that I'd like to see in voiceover with the release > of 10.7. I don't expect VO to be covered in that much detail during this > particular event, we'll probably read about the VO changes on the web site as > the release gets closer. > > I'd like to see them make it possible to access the status menu icons of > other applications. Dropbox is one example of an application that puts an > icon in this menu that can't be accessed with voiceover. We can only access > the default icons like the clock, battery status, etc. > > Also, I haven't yet seen a way to navigate tables within word documents or > pdf files. If I understand things correctly, wasn't it very difficult to read > tables in web pages until the release of 10.6? Maybe this can be done for > other documents as well. > > Finally, I'd really like to see the possibility of setting different > preferences for each application. For example, I might want a different level > of verbosity in a particular application. > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Hi, > I would really love to see other voices in other languages and that they > ditched those trinoids, good news, bad news, boing and other nonsence voices > that belonged in the days when they didn't really know what to do with > synthetic speech, because they hadn't a screen reader then. Nowadays, there > is Voiceover so then other voices in other languages are more appropriate, > especially since the screen reader itself is actually localized into other > languages than english. > Other than that, i would love to see a better translation to Swedish of > Voiceover and the feature that the old Outspoken had, namely theability to > know where the cursor was, by hearing a beep when you spell a word, so that >
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
hm, yes, good suggestion. An alternative screenreader should be nice but: It should cost money I think, it can't have the same features from the beginning like vo since vo is already 5 years old and had already made big improvements. However, it should be nice to have it for situations like you describe. I don't know also if Apple has to make it possible or perhaps some external companies should understand the need of a external screenreader next to a built-in screenreader. I fink we can say that vo has much more quality then a screenreader like nvda or narrator on windows. Op 16-okt-2010, om 01:32 heeft heather kd5cbl het volgende geschreven: > I like vo but I was wondering if apple will allow other screenreader programs > to opperate on the mac. I was just thinking about this because, I have jaws > and NVDA on my windows computer. So when jaws is giving me grief, I can > switch to NVDA which usually tells me what jaws won't or when jaws is stuck. > I like plan b if plan a does not work. Heather > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
