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[Tom Rash]

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Video editing

[Tom Rash]

I’ve been using the Mac for a little over a year but still consider myself a 
newbie.  I’ve started a project of digitizing VHS video tapes.  I have over 40 
years of old family videos on my hard drive now.  I’m wanting a piece of 
software where I can edit these videos.  Simple editing like cutting an 
copying, nothing else.  I tried iMovie, but that is a little intense.  Can 
anyone recommend a simple video editing software to do this?  Thanks. 

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Re: Video editing

[Tom Rash]

It’s a little early on the west coast right now.  I’ll have to check with my 
son later today.  It’s basically a cord with VCR connections on one end and USB 
on the  other.  There is some software to down load for a Mac or PC.  In the 
mean time, maybe a search for digital video converter might get results.  Sorry 
I don’t have a direct answer for you right now. 


> On Jul 16, 2023, at 9:08 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Hello again Tom,
> I’m really interested in what hardware and software you are using with the 
> Mac to convert VHS tapes to digital files. I need to archive some important 
> tapes before we sell off our VCR.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, Woodworker, Farfar, Engineer, Musician
> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 16, 2023, at 6:41 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been using the Mac for a little over a year but still consider myself a 
> newbie.  I’ve started a project of digitizing VHS video tapes.  I have over 
> 40 years of old family videos on my hard drive now.  I’m wanting a piece of 
> software where I can edit these videos.  Simple editing like cutting an 
> copying, nothing else.  I tried iMovie, but that is a little intense.  Can 
> anyone recommend a simple video editing software to do this?  Thanks. 
> 
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Re: Video editing

[Tom Rash]

This is the software to convert.  You also get the wiring to connect your 
computer to the VCR.


> On Jul 17, 2023, at 6:44 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Is this “Clear Click” the editing software or the product to actually convert 
> VHS to digital format on a Mac?
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 17, 2023, at 1:46 PM, dadnthed...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> It is called clear click. There is software to download for a PC or a Mac.
> 
>> On Jul 17, 2023, at 7:22 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> Tom,
>> 
>> Okay, any info you can get would be helpful. Is the Mac software accessible?
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
>> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 17, 2023, at 5:05 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s a little early on the west coast right now.  I’ll have to check with my 
>> son later today.  It’s basically a cord with VCR connections on one end and 
>> USB on the  other.  There is some software to down load for a Mac or PC.  In 
>> the mean time, maybe a search for digital video converter might get results. 
>>  Sorry I don’t have a direct answer for you right now. 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2023, at 9:08 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello again Tom,
>>> I’m really interested in what hardware and software you are using with the 
>>> Mac to convert VHS tapes to digital files. I need to archive some important 
>>> tapes before we sell off our VCR.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Oregonian, Woodworker, Farfar, Engineer, Musician
>>> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2023, at 6:41 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve been using the Mac for a little over a year but still consider myself 
>>> a newbie.  I’ve started a project of digitizing VHS video tapes.  I have 
>>> over 40 years of old family videos on my hard drive now.  I’m wanting a 
>>> piece of software where I can edit these videos.  Simple editing like 
>>> cutting an copying, nothing else.  I tried iMovie, but that is a little 
>>> intense.  Can anyone recommend a simple video editing software to do this?  
>>> Thanks. 
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Re: Video editing

[Tom Rash]

I know that once it was going you just hit the space bar to record and stop 
recording.I would think so, but I don’t know.  We had a few boxes of tapes and 
sighted family members did that.  


> On Jul 17, 2023, at 6:56 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. Found it on Amazon. Is the computer side of the software VO 
> accessible for blind users?
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Woodworker, Musician
> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 17, 2023, at 1:46 PM, dadnthed...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> It is called clear click. There is software to download for a PC or a Mac.
> 
>> On Jul 17, 2023, at 7:22 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> Tom,
>> 
>> Okay, any info you can get would be helpful. Is the Mac software accessible?
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
>> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 17, 2023, at 5:05 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s a little early on the west coast right now.  I’ll have to check with my 
>> son later today.  It’s basically a cord with VCR connections on one end and 
>> USB on the  other.  There is some software to down load for a Mac or PC.  In 
>> the mean time, maybe a search for digital video converter might get results. 
>>  Sorry I don’t have a direct answer for you right now. 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2023, at 9:08 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello again Tom,
>>> I’m really interested in what hardware and software you are using with the 
>>> Mac to convert VHS tapes to digital files. I need to archive some important 
>>> tapes before we sell off our VCR.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Oregonian, Woodworker, Farfar, Engineer, Musician
>>> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2023, at 6:41 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve been using the Mac for a little over a year but still consider myself 
>>> a newbie.  I’ve started a project of digitizing VHS video tapes.  I have 
>>> over 40 years of old family videos on my hard drive now.  I’m wanting a 
>>> piece of software where I can edit these videos.  Simple editing like 
>>> cutting an copying, nothing else.  I tried iMovie, but that is a little 
>>> intense.  Can anyone recommend a simple video editing software to do this?  
>>> Thanks. 
>>> 
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Re: Concerned about the future Mac accessibility

[Tom Rash]

I’m still new whe it comes to the Mac.  Is this a toggle command?  

> On Sep 8, 2023, at 9:40 AM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> That must be exactly why I don’t encounter the issue. I always use VO 
> commands when reading text (either via keyboard or the braille display). So 
> far as I remember, this is what the documentation recommends.
> Also, the command to move keyboard cursor to VO cursor is VO-Command-F4, just 
> to be sure you’re trying the right function. Moving the mouse pointer there 
> won’t do it.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
> behalf of Brad Snyder 
> Date: Friday, September 8, 2023 at 09:35
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Concerned about the future Mac accessibility
> 
> You can avoid this issue by, after navigating to a Heading in an email 
> message, rather than using arrow keys, use VO navigation to navigate from 
> that point onward.
>  
> - Brad -
> 
> On Sep 8, 2023, at 07:50, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> In Apple’s mail app, oftentimes in newslettters, when I jump to a heading or 
> link using voiceover commands and then attempt to read the content underneath 
> the heading with arrow keys, I find myself frustratingly at the beginning of 
> the newsletter again.  Even when I route mouse to voiceover I still don’t 
> seem to be able to read from a particular heading onwards using arrow keys.
>  
> Andrew
> 
> 
> On 8 Sep 2023, at 12:27, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> I’ve successfully navigated headings, links, etc., in e-mail messages on the 
> Mac, suing the usual Voiceover commands. So I don’t know what is causing your 
> problems here.
> I agree that such navigation works well under Windows, until Microsoft 
> Outlook crashes – then of course, one loses time restarting it, in some 
> cases, having to repair the data file corruption, which is the very annoying 
> aspect. 
> Mozilla Thunderbird under Linux performs quite well for e-mail reading.
>  
> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  >
> Date: Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 15:18
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Concerned about the future Mac accessibility
> 
> I agree and I use the same tactic: Windows is superior on web navigation and 
> even email when it comes to newsletters where you can swiftly and reliably 
> navigate through headings and links and activate them - a difficult if not 
> impossible task in Apple mail.
>  
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
> On 7 Sep 2023, at 18:32, lenron brown  > wrote:
>  
> I hate web Browsing on the mac. Most other things I am good with. I
> use both platforms for different reasons, even having a 2023 MBP 14
> with max chip. I still use my windows computers as my daily drivers. I
> like my mac for vocr and logic, and a few other things. Some things
> can just be slower on a mac  when it comes to page navagation and a
> couple other things, I just would rather not deal with it.
> 
> On 9/7/23, Mohamed Fayed mailto:m10fa...@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’ve lately switched from 2016 15” MBP to 2023 M2Max 16””. The gain in
> performance is tremendous and you will notice it.
> 
> For issues related to “mail is not responding”, it occurs when you make the
> exact keystrokes, but Voiceover continues within a significantly shorter
> duration.
> 
> For web browsing, Safari nowadays is pretty bad. This is not related to VO.
> You may try Google Chrome or MS Edge instead.
> 
> Windows on Apple Silicon is significantly faster. If there is a chance to
> get to Apple Silicon device, and try it yourself, that would be great.
> 
> The issue that annoys me the most is VO stops talking. It is on Mac and iOS.
> I hope they fix it soon.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Mohamed E. Fayed
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7 Sep 2023, at 8:01 PM, Dave Carlson  > wrote:
> 
> My biggest gripe with Mac OS and VO is web browsing. It’s awful compared
> to Windows with JAWS or NNVDA. It is the main reason I would seriously
> consider going back to Windows if/when it’s time to get a new laptop.
> I use DuckDuckGo as my browser now to get away from that annoying “Safari
> is Busy” message that cripples my productivity.
> 
> So I’m on the fence about switching back to Windows, but if VO on the Mac
> does not improve over time (and I doubt that it will) I might just flip a
> coin on the decision.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 7, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Traci Duncan  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all, it seems like we are having more than a few messages on this list
> about the disappointment in Mac’s VoiceOver performance.
> 
> Are quite a few of you thinking o

Re: tabbing issue in e-mail under Ventura

[Tom Rash]

Is that more of a visual thing , or does adjusting that affect what is actually 
visible to read?


> On Oct 9, 2023, at 8:36 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> The splitter between the Mailbox table, and the Mailbox list table, 
> determines how wide the Mailbox table is.
> Interact with the splitter to adjust.
> Splitter to the right of the Mailbox list table, will adjust the width of the 
> Mail Preview area.
> Again, interact with the splitter to adjust.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 9, 2023, at 22:25, Raymond Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  I notice a splitter between the mail box table and the messages 
> table.  There is another splitter just off to the right of the messages 
> table.  What do those do?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud Mac, Xfinity Mobile and Apple TV user
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2023, at 2:59 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ray, no need to adjust anything. You can either use quick math or in your 
>> control and option keys plus right arrow, out of the mailbox table, and that 
>> will bring you into the Messages table. That's honestly the quickest way to 
>> do that.
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2023, at 8:45 PM, Raymond Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay.
>>> 
>>> I am running the latest version of Ventura which is all this 2017 Mac book 
>>> pro will support.
>>> 
>>> When I first set it up, my e-mail was so configured that I would be in the 
>>> list of mail boxes and if I wanted to get to messages in a particular box, 
>>> I just selected the box with the arrow keys and then tabbed once to access 
>>> the list of messages for that box.  Recently, I did something which means 
>>> that now, instead of tabbing and back tabbing just once, I now must do it 
>>> twice.  Any ideas on what I might want to adjust?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very proud Mac, Xfinity Mobile and Apple TV user
>>> 
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Re: tabbing issue in e-mail under Ventura

[Tom Rash]

Is there any advantage to hiding that panel for sighted or blind?


> On Oct 11, 2023, at 6:45 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it is pretty much a visual thing unless the slider is set to a position 
> that closes the panel. Then the panel is non-existent to voiceover or to a 
> visual user.
> - Brad -
> 
> On Oct 11, 2023, at 07:19, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> Is that more of a visual thing , or does adjusting that affect what is 
> actually visible to read?
> 
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2023, at 8:36 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> The splitter between the Mailbox table, and the Mailbox list table, 
>> determines how wide the Mailbox table is.
>> Interact with the splitter to adjust.
>> Splitter to the right of the Mailbox list table, will adjust the width of 
>> the Mail Preview area.
>> Again, interact with the splitter to adjust.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 9, 2023, at 22:25, Raymond Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.  I notice a splitter between the mail box table and the messages 
>> table.  There is another splitter just off to the right of the messages 
>> table.  What do those do?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud Mac, Xfinity Mobile and Apple TV user
>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2023, at 2:59 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ray, no need to adjust anything. You can either use quick math or in 
>>> your control and option keys plus right arrow, out of the mailbox table, 
>>> and that will bring you into the Messages table. That's honestly the 
>>> quickest way to do that.
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 8, 2023, at 8:45 PM, Raymond Foret Jr  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Okay.
>>>> 
>>>> I am running the latest version of Ventura which is all this 2017 Mac book 
>>>> pro will support.
>>>> 
>>>> When I first set it up, my e-mail was so configured that I would be in the 
>>>> list of mail boxes and if I wanted to get to messages in a particular box, 
>>>> I just selected the box with the arrow keys and then tabbed once to access 
>>>> the list of messages for that box.  Recently, I did something which means 
>>>> that now, instead of tabbing and back tabbing just once, I now must do it 
>>>> twice.  Any ideas on what I might want to adjust?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
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>>>> Still a very proud Mac, Xfinity Mobile and Apple TV user
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Re: making extra payments on Apple devices

[Tom Rash]

If it is an installment payment, like if you bought something with no interest 
so a time period defined, you find the installment for the payment to go toward 
that.


> On Nov 1, 2023, at 6:53 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Hi all:
> So if you buy items on the Apple card from Aple and want to make extra 
> payments, how do you do it?
> When I choose pay it says the extra I pay will go towards the cc balance.
> I tried waiting to the CC payment had been made and it said I had no payments 
> due. Unfortunately it wouldn’t make a payment because I had pending charges. 
> The way my bills are schedule, I always have pending payments.
> Ideas?
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Re: making extra payments on Apple devices

[Tom Rash]

Are these installment payments?  Like if you’re paying off something and want 
to make an extra payment.  You can do that.

> On Nov 2, 2023, at 3:14 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> All I had was the entire credit card balance choice. There was no iPhone 
> listed.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: making extra payments on Apple devices
>  
> If it is an installment payment, like if you bought something with no 
> interest so a time period defined, you find the installment for the payment 
> to go toward that.
>  
> 
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2023, at 6:53 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi all:
>> So if you buy items on the Apple card from Aple and want to make extra 
>> payments, how do you do it?
>> When I choose pay it says the extra I pay will go towards the cc balance.
>> I tried waiting to the CC payment had been made and it said I had no 
>> payments due. Unfortunately it wouldn’t make a payment because I had pending 
>> charges. The way my bills are schedule, I always have pending payments.
>> Ideas?
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Re: making extra payments on Apple devices

[Tom Rash]

Okay, if you want to make a payment  on a specific device go to the Apple Card. 
 Click on the more button.  Swipe until you hear monthly installments.  Click 
on the device, name in question, and click pay early.  

> On Nov 3, 2023, at 4:34 AM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep. Only choice is to pay credit card balance not pay towards phone.
>  
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: making extra payments on Apple devices
>  
> Are these installment payments?  Like if you’re paying off something and want 
> to make an extra payment.  You can do that.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 2, 2023, at 3:14 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>> All I had was the entire credit card balance choice. There was no iPhone 
>> listed.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom Rash
>> Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 6:57 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: making extra payments on Apple devices
>>  
>> If it is an installment payment, like if you bought something with no 
>> interest so a time period defined, you find the installment for the payment 
>> to go toward that.
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2023, at 6:53 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi all:
>>> So if you buy items on the Apple card from Aple and want to make extra 
>>> payments, how do you do it?
>>> When I choose pay it says the extra I pay will go towards the cc balance.
>>> I tried waiting to the CC payment had been made and it said I had no 
>>> payments due. Unfortunately it wouldn’t make a payment because I had 
>>> pending charges. The way my bills are schedule, I always have pending 
>>> payments.
>>> Ideas?
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Re: Closing n app on iPhone 15 pro

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To get to the app switcher,  swipe up with one finger from the bottom
 Of the screen.  When you feel the third vibration, stop swiping up.  Swipe 
left or right to close the app or apps by swiping up with three fingers for 
each app you want to close.
Good luck. 
You’ll get there.
double tapping on that app. 

> On Nov 9, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am migrating from an iPhone SE 2020 to an iPhone 15 pro. 
> I really miss the home button! i am having problems to reliably swipe up from 
> the bottom of the phone to unlock the phone and to get to the home screen 
> from one app to open a different app. Sometimes the 1 finger swipe up works 
> and sometimes it does not work. Any tips on how to reliably do this?
> However my biggest problem is how to shut down a running app. On the SE I 
> used to do a double tap of the home button to open the App Switcher and then 
> swipe left or right to find the desired app and then do a 3 finger swipe up 
> to shut it down. How do I do this on an iPhone which does not have a home 
> button?
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Re: Closing n app on iPhone 15 pro

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It sounds like you have the gesture correct, just keep practicing.  It is also 
important to have a steady hand and a smooth gesture.  To get to the app 
switcher is three vibrations or clicks up, then swipe left or with to close 
apps.  Also, you could have notifications in the tap back feature of your 
phone.  This way you could just tap the back of the phone twice and that could 
bring up your notifications. 

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> Hello,
> I am migrating from an iPhone SE 2020 to an iPhone 15 pro. 
> I really miss the home button! i am having problems to reliably swipe up from 
> the bottom of the phone to unlock the phone and to get to the home screen 
> from one app to open a different app. Sometimes the 1 finger swipe up works 
> and sometimes it does not work. Any tips on how to reliably do this?
> However my biggest problem is how to shut down a running app. On the SE I 
> used to do a double tap of the home button to open the App Switcher and then 
> swipe left or right to find the desired app and then do a 3 finger swipe up 
> to shut it down. How do I do this on an iPhone which does not have a home 
> button?
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Re: How to read pdf or if there is a app

[Tom Rash]

I am also pretty new to the Mac.  I don’t get many PDF files.  Do I need to get 
this preview app, or is it just available when needed.  I don’t remember having 
a problem reading PDF’s. 


> On Jan 6, 2024, at 2:04 PM, Maurice A. Mines  wrote:
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> Hi  it  is  grate to  hear that  you  have  a new  Mac. Pdf files are  best  
> done  in  preview I elect all  text and  copy it  to  Microsoft Word. It  
> works  grate for  me. HTH Maurice  Mines.
> President Nfb Deafblind Division.
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2024, at 21:33, Rebecca Sabo  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> I just got a new mack computer.  I was wondering how do you open or read 
>> pdfs through the mack ?  Is there an app to download for pdfs ?
>> Thanks 
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Re: cd player/burner

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My only suggestion is to make sure that the CD is right side up when inserting 
it into the player.  I’m sure you’ve taken that into consideration though.  
Good luck. 


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Re: Setting up Apple tv 4K without sighted help

[Tom Rash]

It’s going to be on the remote

> On Jan 8, 2024, at 5:26 AM, Simon Cavendish  wrote:
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> Ray, thank you for this.  Where will I find this indented key?  On the unit 
> itself or the remote control?
> 
> Simon 
> 
>> On 8 Jan 2024, at 13:01, Raymond Foret Jr  wrote:
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>> No need to be nervous at all.  First thing you do once you've plugged 
>> everything in is touch the key that's slightly indented three times quickly. 
>>  That will turn on Voice Over and you're good to go from there.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud Mac, Xfinity Mobile and Apple TV user
>> 
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>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I’m expecting a delivery of Apple tv 4K wifi. Will I be able to set it up 
>>> without sighted help straight from the box?  I’m feeling rather nervous.
>>> 
>>> Any tips would be appreciated.
>>> 
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Re: Typing Messages in IOS when onscreen keyboard not visible

[Tom Rash]

Just turn blue tooth off and on again.  This will disconnect the keyboard or 
whatever device you are using.  Turn it on again so you can have blue tooth for 
watch and things like that., but turning it off and on should take care of the 
problem. 

> On Jan 11, 2024, at 9:22 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Exactly.
> Turning off bluetooth will cause your iPhone to “let go” of any connected 
> bluetooth device.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 11, 2024, at 19:45, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> I’ve seen this problem, too. I solve it by just turning Bluetooth off on my 
> phone. Then the keyboard comes back. Hope this helps.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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>> I am having the same issue. I can do Braille Screen input, but I would like 
>> to have my keyboard back. Someone suggested a soft reset but have not tried 
>> that yet.
>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2024, at 18:49, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:
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>>> When I’m in my office, my iPhone SE 2022 is connected to a Bluetooth 
>>> Keyboartd. When I am on the road, even though I’m way out of range of the 
>>> keyboard, I’m still not able to get to the on screen keyboard in some apps 
>>> because the phone is still somehow hanging onto the hardware keyboard. 
>>> Messages, fortunately, has a dictate button even though there is no on 
>>> screen keyboard, so that’s not a problem. I do have other apps that don’t 
>>> have the dictate button, so I’m stuck without the keyboard. If I have a 
>>> sighted person around, I can turn VO off, and have that person tap in the 
>>> text entry area and here comes the keyboard, so I’m safe. Is there any way, 
>>> when VO is active, for me to do something like this? Double-tapping or 
>>> double-tapping and hold doesn’t seem to work, but as I say as soon as VO is 
>>> turned off, a sighted person can tap in the box and get the keyboard. I’m 
>>> hoping maybe I’m missing a gesture, so wanted to ask.
>>>  
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Re: Coming up Saturday: Voiceover for Mac Discussion Group

[Tom Rash]

What meeting is this link for?  I deleted the original message in this group. 
Thanks.


> On Jan 27, 2024, at 5:37 AM, Ian Robinson  wrote:
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> The original message contains a link to register for the meeting.  Once 
> registered, you’ll get the join info.  The meeting time is 2pm Eastern.
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> Ian
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>> I don’t see the time or join info for this meeting.
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2024, at 9:31 PM, Karen Lewellen  
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>>> Johnathan
>>> You are a prince, thank you!
>>> Karen
>>> 
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Re: Apple Pay on Apple Watch?

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You don’t need a pass word or authentication.  I think the reason for that is 
that When you put the watch on you need to enter the password, so that takes 
care of the authorization. 


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> Hi all,
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> Related to our discussion about Apple Pay, I’m curious about how it works on 
> the watch.  It seems like it would be super convenient to just hold your 
> wrist up to the reader, except that you can’t authenticate with face or Touch 
> ID.  So do you then have to enter your password every time?  That seems like 
> it would be a hassle, and also like everyone around you would be able to hear 
> your password.  How do people deal with that issue?
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Re: Look there, Mac has a clock app!

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Where do you find the clock app?


> On Mar 14, 2024, at 3:20 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Lol, insert face palm. I can’t believe I wrote alt instead of command. :) 
> 
> I did have an issue of stopping the timer.. Done was dimmed. Any ideas why?
> 
> Traci
> 
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2024, at 2:36 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>> Hi!
>> That’s very nice indeed.
>> Its good to have actually.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 14 mars 2024 kl. 05:31 skrev Traci Duncan :
>>> 
>>> I did not know the Mac had a clock app including timer, etc.  You can 
>>> access the various tabs of clock with alt-1-4.
>>> 
>>> Nice!
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Re: How to delete individual messages from long e-mail threads and continue reading the thread in sequence

[Tom Rash]

I hit VO space on the thread to collapse it, and then arrow to the bottom of 
the list and arrow up through the list to read in order, deleting or not as I 
go through the chain and VO space to extend the list and delete delete from the 
extended list if you want to delete the whole thing. 


> On May 29, 2024, at 6:55 PM, Eiret  wrote:
> 
> Does it work to hold down vo-command keys then while holding down the keys, 
> hit left arrow until you hear messages, then arrow up/down in the thread. I 
> always start at the oldest post. First you have to hit the actual thread in 
> the inbox. Then do what i described above. Then you have the option to delete 
> the whole thread when you go back to inbox. 
> However, this is in IOS with full qwerty external keyboard.
> 
> Eiret
> 
> 
> 
>> 30. mai 2024 kl. 00:31 skrev Herbie Allen :
>> 
>> Not sure which method you use, but I expand the thread with right aero 
>> without opening the thread and then just delete any messages within the 
>> thread with the delete key.
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2024, at 15:16, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Guys,
>>> 
>>> I’m using an M1 MacBook Pro running Sonoma 14.5.1.  I’ve discovered what I 
>>> think is something weird about Apple Mail when it comes to reading long 
>>> threads.  If one expands a long thread, the expectation should be that you 
>>> start reading from the beginning of the thread and delete messages as you 
>>> finish them, if that’s what you want.  Each successive deletion should move 
>>> the reader to the next message in chronological order,  however, my 
>>> experience has consistently been that deleting messages sends the reader 
>>> hither, thither and yawn.  While there seems to be no real exact pattern to 
>>> what happens, I find that I am either sent several messages down the 
>>> thread, or, I’m sent to the very top of the thread.  The only way I know 
>>> things are wrong is that I have enough vision to understand that I’ve been 
>>> bounced somewhere other than where I should be.  
>>> 
>>> It used to be that CMD Option Delete, (where Delete is on the Sixpack, 
>>> would deliver the desired result.  But now, using Cmd Option Delete removes 
>>> the message such that it can’t be restored with Cmd Z.  Further, using this 
>>> method doesn’t send the message to the trash.  I went looking for a message 
>>> I removed in this fashion and it was nowhere to be found. So, I can’t use 
>>> this deletion method anymore.  
>>> 
>>> I developed a case through Apple Accessibility and we’ve determined that 
>>> this is a mail thing, not an accessibility thing, because the behavior is 
>>> identical regardless of whether Vo is ON or OFF.  
>>> 
>>> Does anyone here have the same experience?  Does anyone here have a 
>>> reliable KS for deleting a message from a mail thread while being certain 
>>> of moving to the next message in said thread?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Kevin
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Lost my 5TB drive

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I was trying to eject a CD from my CD Drive.  I accidentally ejected my 5TB 
drive.  How can I get that 5TB drive back?  Thanks.

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Re: New Mac talking in Sleep Mode.

[Tom Rash]

On my Mac mini, I hear that only when it shuts down.  If I do nothing for 20 
minutes, it goes into sleep mode with that verbiage.  Stays quiet until I tap 
the space bar to wake it up.


> On Nov 1, 2024, at 12:10 PM, Ben Constantini  
> wrote:
> 
> So , if I leave the room and the mac goes to sleep my wife and I keep hearing 
> the words “Authorization ,Applications  about every 5 minutes . I usually 
> just  turn the volume down .
> .
> Ben Constantini
> bennnyconstant...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2024, at 6:47 PM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries 
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>> 
>> Mine doesn’t. Are you sure it’s in sleep mode, as opposed to being at the 
>> lock screen? Could you be more specific about what it says in sleep mode, as 
>> this might give insights into how to prevent it?
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > > on behalf of N2KPV 
>> mailto:bennnyconstant...@gmail.com>>
>> Date: Sunday, October 27, 2024 at 10:59
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>> Subject: New Mac talking in Sleep Mode.
>> 
>> I just updated to a new Mac about 2 months ago . For some reason my mac 
>> randomly talks during sleep mode . Is there a setting that I should check ?  
>>  Thanks in advance .   Ben C,  
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Calculater on the Mac

[Tom Rash]

Since I’ve upgraded to the latest version of iOS, The calculator doesn’t work 
as it did before.  
There was an area in the menu where you could turn off speech and use the 
speech from the calculator.  That speech menus no longer there.  Anyway, any 
thoughts for those of you that have used the calculator before?  

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Re: Be my eyes now on Rayban meta smart glasses

[Tom Rash]

I haven’t noticed any of those problems.  I’ve had mine for just over a week 
now.  Using them everyday.  The only problem I was really having was getting 
the glasses to read text rather than an ai.synopsis.  Got that figured out now. 
 Great so far. 


> On Nov 30, 2024, at 2:55 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> The only real issue I have had so far is that today my glasses kept telling 
> me I had no service mid way between describing or attempting to read text or 
> pretty much anything. If I walked outside range of my internet it was fine. 
> If I walked in the house it gave the problem message. My wife tried hers and 
> had the sane issue. We checked both Meta and our Internet and both were up 
> and running. I also did a network diagnostic and my lag time was in an 
> acceptable range and I looked at my ISP app and all said strong WiFi. So I 
> hope it was an isolated incident because I already spent the $90 digital 
> credit that Amazon gave me on a Logitech mini keyboard after getting the 
> Wayfarer Large Meta Smart Glasses for a pretty decent discount in addition.
> Merv
> 
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>> On Nov 30, 2024, at 3:59 PM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Phil,
>> 
>> I've not had to reboot my glasses so far, but for me yes, the lag time when 
>> I have the glasses on is pretty annoying. I’m not sure even if it's in the 
>> Meta app, because as soon as I put my glasses on VO slows down markedly 
>> before I even start the Meta View app on my phone.
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Phil Halton
>> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2024 11:12 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries 
>> Subject: Be my eyes now on Rayban meta smart glasses
>> 
>> Is anyone finding stability issues with their Rayban meta smart glasses? I 
>> tried a pair for a week or so and had to hard reboot them at least once. I 
>> mean, factory resetting and going through the setup process all over again. 
>> They seemed to crash when I was making intensive use of the photo analysis 
>> AI part to read and adjust changing digital displays. If they were more 
>> stable I would have hung in their until Be my Eyes came on board, but I 
>> returned them because of the stability issue. I think the lag time of the 
>> MetaView app was indicative of this instability.
>> The other big reason for returning them was because wearing them reminded me 
>> of why I don't wear sunglasses or glasses of any kind. They interfere with 
>> the little light sensativity I have left and on which I rely, for better or 
>> worse.
>> If they would just get more stable then having hands free access to Be My 
>> Eyes would be enough to invest in them, but as it is they just don't cut it 
>> yet.
>> What do you think? Will they improve over time? I'll be interested to hear 
>> what others think.
>> thanks
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: John Panarese, please pray!

[Tom Rash]

What a great person he is.  I never personally met him but conversed with him 
with a question about the Mac on a podcast.  Very knowledgeable and personable. 
 Very sad for his family and friends, and the blind community. 


> On Dec 5, 2024, at 6:58 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
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> My heart is very sad to learn of this.  He has been such a wonderful support 
> to me in my learning of the Mac.  While I was working through his courses 
> back in 2016 or so, he would answer my email and help me with problems even 
> though I was not paying him anything else beyond the courses.  This is a 
> great loss to the blind community and to me personally.  
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2024, at 2:59 PM, Kliph Miller Sr  wrote:
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>> This is one of the hardest emails i have ever had to write. Some of you may 
>> know, and for those who don’t, John has severe cancer. He received treatment 
>> that was to believed to be helping/ Turns out it has gotten worse, his 
>> family has placed him in hospice, and hoping he at least makes it to 
>> Christmas. John has been my mentor, and great friend for over 10 years. My 
>> heart hurts to have to write this, if you are a believer, please pray for a 
>> maricle. Otherwise just hope for the best. If you have training or any other 
>> services with John, i don’t know how that will look going forward, but you 
>> can contact me privately, and I will try and get an update on that.  Again, 
>> this would be a great loss to the blind community, apple world, and a great 
>> friend that i love like a brother.  Thanks.
 Kliph
 
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Re: Anyone else constantly having to re-pair their Meta glasses with their iPhone?

[Tom Rash]

Same here.  I’ve had mine since late November with no issues. 


> On Jan 30, 2025, at 3:27 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
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> Hello,
> No I have not had to repare mine. I have had mine since Christmas.
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2025, at 6:16 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I’m about ready to send mine back, because I’m re-pairing them for the four 
>> time since I got them two weeks ago.  Is anyone else experiencing this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Be my eyes now on Rayban meta smart glasses

[Tom Rash]

Well, remember I’ve only had these glasses for a couple of weeks.  I’m not so 
sure what triggered the OCR type reading.  I’m guessing that the ai SYNOPSIS 
WAS THAT GOOD THAT I THOUGHT it WAS oCR.   

> On Dec 1, 2024, at 6:16 AM, Frank Ventura  
> wrote:
> 
> Tom, what did you say to the glasses to get it to read with OCR instead of 
> the AI synopsis?
> Frank
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2024, at 8:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tom,
>> 
>> I’m hoping Santa will leave some glasses in my Christmas stocking.  How did 
>> you solve that issue?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 1, 2024, at 6:32 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I haven’t noticed any of those problems.  I’ve had mine for just over a 
>>> week now.  Using them everyday.  The only problem I was really having was 
>>> getting the glasses to read text rather than an ai.synopsis.  Got that 
>>> figured out now.  Great so far. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 30, 2024, at 2:55 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The only real issue I have had so far is that today my glasses kept 
>>>> telling me I had no service mid way between describing or attempting to 
>>>> read text or pretty much anything. If I walked outside range of my 
>>>> internet it was fine. If I walked in the house it gave the problem 
>>>> message. My wife tried hers and had the sane issue. We checked both Meta 
>>>> and our Internet and both were up and running. I also did a network 
>>>> diagnostic and my lag time was in an acceptable range and I looked at my 
>>>> ISP app and all said strong WiFi. So I hope it was an isolated incident 
>>>> because I already spent the $90 digital credit that Amazon gave me on a 
>>>> Logitech mini keyboard after getting the Wayfarer Large Meta Smart Glasses 
>>>> for a pretty decent discount in addition.
>>>> Merv
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 30, 2024, at 3:59 PM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Phil,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've not had to reboot my glasses so far, but for me yes, the lag time 
>>>>> when I have the glasses on is pretty annoying. I’m not sure even if it's 
>>>>> in the Meta app, because as soon as I put my glasses on VO slows down 
>>>>> markedly before I even start the Meta View app on my phone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pete
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
>>>>> On Behalf Of Phil Halton
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2024 11:12 AM
>>>>> To: Macvisionaries 
>>>>> Subject: Be my eyes now on Rayban meta smart glasses
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is anyone finding stability issues with their Rayban meta smart glasses? 
>>>>> I tried a pair for a week or so and had to hard reboot them at least 
>>>>> once. I mean, factory resetting and going through the setup process all 
>>>>> over again. They seemed to crash when I was making intensive use of the 
>>>>> photo analysis AI part to read and adjust changing digital displays. If 
>>>>> they were more stable I would have hung in their until Be my Eyes came on 
>>>>> board, but I returned them because of the stability issue. I think the 
>>>>> lag time of the MetaView app was indicative of this instability.
>>>>> The other big reason for returning them was because wearing them reminded 
>>>>> me of why I don't wear sunglasses or glasses of any kind. They interfere 
>>>>> with the little light sensativity I have left and on which I rely, for 
>>>>> better or worse.
>>>>> If they would just get more stable then having hands free access to Be My 
>>>>> Eyes would be enough to invest in them, but as it is they just don't cut 
>>>>> it yet.
>>>>> What do you think? Will they improve over time? I'll be interested to 
>>>>> hear what others think.
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my IPhone
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