Re: on screen keyboard

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Gabe. I'm having the same problems as you. The only way to make the onscreen keyboard visible is to use either external keyboard or Braille Display and the space with dots 1 4 6 a couple of times to toggle to onscreen keyboard visible. I was looking in the voiceover commands list to see if I could assign a gesture to make keyboard visible but the only way I could see was through the Braille commands. It was here that I found some strange anomalies. Listed in my Braille devices was my Sony WH1000 headphones. Sure enough the show/hide onscreen keyboard command was there in the list of available commands but nothing assigned to it. I'm wondering whether you may have paired something like those headphones which could be sending some kind of command to voiceover to hide the keyboard? I just removed it from my bluetooth devices and will see if that sorts out the problem. Very annoying as I quite like the sound of those headphones. Quite why they should show up as a Braille device is a bit of a mystery to me though? Let's hope that resolves things.CheersThuyOn 24 Nov 2023, at 04:50, Gabe Griffith  wrote:Hi, Sorry if I was confusing. I'm talking about that when I activate the edit field I can type using braille screen input but the onscreen keyboard is often hidden. This causes issues because if I'm in Safari trying to get to a web page for example I can type the web address but since there is no keyboard the go button doesn't show up. If I'm in an app that has some kind of search type button that doesn't appear because the keyboard is hidden. I hope that helps clarify the issue. Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.orgOn Nov 23, 2023, at 8:39 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:Dave,Confused. Why or where is it necessary to have the on screen keyboard show when there is no active edit field? Not sure I understand.
Dave CarlsonWoodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfardgcarlson0...@gmail.com

On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:34 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:hi, Yes, I've always had the keyboard show up whenever an edit field is active also. This is new behavior.  I forgot to mention that I have rebooted my phone and that brings back the keyboard but that seems to only be temporary.Thanks, Gabe     Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.orgOn Nov 23, 2023, at 8:17 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:Try turning off bluetooth on the iPhone.This should help determine if the issue has to do with a bluetooth device.
- Brad -


On Nov 23, 2023, at 21:54, Dave Carlson  wrote:I would think the keyboard should show up whenever there is an edit field and it is active. I have not seen this behavior with iOS 17.1.1. Also iPhone 14 Pro.
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On Nov 23, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:Hello all, Ever since I updated to iOS 17 I have been having an issue where my on screen keboard doesn't show up on my iPhone 14 Pro. I Thought it might be an iOS 17 thing or have to do with my having a couple of different braille displays connected but my fiance just got a new 14 Pro yesterday and is occasionally having the same issue and she most definitely doesn't have any keyboards or braille displays connected to her phone Does anyone have any thoughts on what would cause this and how to get the keyboard to show up? I generally use braille screen input so can get around it when typing but it makes things quite difficult for things like getting to a web site or performing a product search in apps. Thanks, Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/136C57DE-37AD-40BC-B3C8-A7D695D84AB7%40gmail.com.

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Re: Help on keyboard problem

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi moses. If you turn off the speech with three finger double tap, you can 
always get it to come back on with a rotor dial twist. Hope this helps?
Cheers
Thuy


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On 22 Mar 2012, at 16:11, "Moses Choo"  wrote:

> Hi Gigi,
>  
> Thanks, the next time around, I will certainly be a little more careful. 
> Some time back, I posted about the problem of the iPhone will repeat the 
> caller during an incoming call.  doing a three fingers double tap  after 
> taking the call will silent it. However, my problem is always forgetting to 
> turn on the speech back. Anyone here have a solution?
>  
> Regards,
> Moses.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:48 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Help on keyboard problem
> 
> Hi Moses.
> I have a suggestion of how the setting get changed. If the rotar is set on 
> the option and you happen to flick your finger on the right place on the 
> screen, then you can make a change. VoiceOver does say it, but I can see how 
> it could not be noticed. 
> 
> If I am annoyed by this, I just set the rotar on something like speech rate 
> so that nothing drastic gets changed. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
> Eugenia Firth
> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Moses Choo wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ricardo and all, My was just due to a setting of entry mode set to touch
>> typing. Frankly, I do not know how the setting was accidently changed. After
>> chatting with friends, we have three of us in Malaysia who have experienced
>> such a case.  Hope this will be of help to others. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Moses.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Moses Choo
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:30 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Help on keyboard problem
>> 
>> Hi Ricardo,
>> 
>> Thanks for responding.   I have already tried the following.
>> 
>> 1. Rebooting the phone 
>> 2. Set for forget all my bluetooth keyboards.
>> 
>> What I have not done is to use the reset to factory default. My phone is an
>> iPhone 4 and I have upgraded to version 5.1.  If I were to reset, will it go
>> back to version 4.1? 
>> 
>> Frankly, I think it is the Voiceover that is at problem.  Is that a way for
>> me just to reinstall the Voiceover? 
>> 
>> Everything works well accept when I want to key in numbers or letters.  All
>> other work fine.  I also face this problem when I  reboot and would have to
>> key in my 4 digit pin. The only way to do it is to turn off the Voiceover
>> and get someone who can see to help me. 
>> 
>> However, when I use my bluetooth keyboard, it works okay.  There are times
>> that I do not bring along my keyboard, hence I would like to be able to use
>> the screen keyboard as wel..
>> 
>> I look forward to some advice. 
>> 
>> Regards
>> Moses.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:13 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Help on keyboard problem
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> try going to settings/general/bluetooth and have the phone forget the other
>> BT keyboards you've paired and restart the phone.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Moses Choo  wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> I have installed several Bluetooth keyboard recently and have landed 
>>> my
>> self in a little problem.  My last was to install the RIVO Bluetooth
>> keyboard.
>>> 
>>> Now when I do not want to use any Bluetooth keyboard,  my iphone 
>>> keyboard
>> does not seem to respond well. This problem is present in the following
>> situations.
>>> 1.   Dialing,
>>> 2.   2.   Keying in SMS,
>>> 3.   3.   Keying in passwords for updating.
>>> 
>>> I will be able to click the shift key, however, when typing other 
>>> keys,
>> the key board just doesn't respond. However, if I turn off the Voiceover and
>> use it as a normal iphone, than it will be okay.  
>>> 
>>> Would appreciate some form of advice.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Moses.
>>> 
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Re: aThe slim Braille Pen.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi  Kawal. Isn't this Braille input only? I have the Braille pen 12, which has 
the display and Braille keyboard, but that's just under 1K. It has really nice 
Braille dots and good keyboard, but no cursor routing, which makes it a bit of 
a pain editing texts  and activating apps. Also, the command to wake it up is 
space with K, which overridess  the keyboard help command. Hope this helps?
Cheers
Thuy


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On 30 Mar 2012, at 16:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I have just purchased the Slim Braille Pen, priced at £295 the cheapest 
> refreshable braille I have seen so far although I do have a Euro braille 40 
> which I use as well.
> 
> Just wish to know if anyone has used this  either their mac or I phone?
> 
> All experiences are welcome.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: aThe slim Braille Pen.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Kawal. I also have a Eurobraille Esys but with 12 cells. It's  really good, 
but mine has been a bit unreliable and I've had to send it back 3 times for 
updating firmware and repairs.
Also the note-taking functions are very basic and the diary crashes every so 
often, so I have to keep resetting it. My favourite setup at the moment is the 
Iphone with a Braille connect 12 and Riitek Keyboard stuck over the top of the 
connect 12 with velcro. It's a really compact setup with qwerty input and 
braille output. The other good thing about the Braille connect is that it has a 
standby mode and wakes up whenever the iphone comes on so you can see the 
caller id even when the speech is turned off. They used to do a 24 cell version 
of the Braille connect too, but Humanware never sold any in this country (UK), 
which is a real shame in my opinion.
Cheers
Thuy

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On 31 Mar 2012, at 21:08, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Hello Thuy.
> 
> I know what the product is now and have cancelled the order. I already have a 
> Euro braille 40 and may be one day I want a 24 cell (in my dreams)!
> 
> Thanks for replying.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 31 Mar 2012, at 02:27 PM, Thuy Mallalieu  wrote:
> 
>> Hi  Kawal. Isn't this Braille input only? I have the Braille pen 12, which 
>> has the display and Braille keyboard, but that's just under 1K. It has 
>> really nice Braille dots and good keyboard, but no cursor routing, which 
>> makes it a bit of a pain editing texts  and activating apps. Also, the 
>> command to wake it up is space with K, which overridess  the keyboard help 
>> command. Hope this helps?
>> Cheers
>> Thuy
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 30 Mar 2012, at 16:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> I have just purchased the Slim Braille Pen, priced at £295 the cheapest 
>>> refreshable braille I have seen so far although I do have a Euro braille 40 
>>> which I use as well.
>>> 
>>> Just wish to know if anyone has used this  either their mac or I phone?
>>> 
>>> All experiences are welcome.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: problem with braille display.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Which display is it? 


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On 17 May 2012, at 21:14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> My braille display is still having problems. I will be sending it back to the 
> person who I bought from, in the first place. It's the third time I'm doing 
> this. So I'm rather disappointed. Take care.
> 
> On 17 May 2012, at 05:27 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> Funny I just came across your message this morning shortly after I
>> experienced this very thing for the first time with my iPod.  It was
>> like this incredible long lag time where actions from the Braille
>> display would back up in a queue or something and then trickle to the
>> iPod maybe five seconds later or something.  I finally got out of the
>> application I was running and then I noticed the Braille display
>> showing its startup prompt even though the iPod claimed it was still
>> connected.  I finally unpaired the device and re-paired it from within
>> Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> Braille.  then I noticed VO
>> said the Braille display was still disconnected.  I had to power cycle
>> everything and then I had to force the display to connect in the VO
>> bluetooth menu; fwew, I finally got it all working.
>> 
>> that was a real pain; I hope that doesn't happen again.
>> 
>> On 5/16/12, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> Hello All.
>>> 
>>> Wonder if any one who uses a braille display om their I phone have ever had
>>> this problem where the wheels an joist stick stops functioning?
>>> 
>>> Looks as I will have to reset my I phone from scratch as I think this
>>> happened to me before.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: spotify and the Mac

[Thuy Mallalieu]

The last time I tried it on Mac I really struggled. Seems to work well on iOS 
devices though but unfortunately you can only run that version if you pay for a 
premium account. 

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On 24 Nov 2011, at 19:16, Kevin Mattingly  wrote:

> My brother was telling me about a program called spotify. It is used to 
> listen to music of all types. Instead of buying music, you just search for an 
> artist and you can listen from your computer as much as you like. I 
> downloaded the application for the Mac but it doesn't seem to be accessible. 
> Does anyone know if it is accessible on windows and or on an IOS device?
> 
> Kev
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Re: Another question about the I Phone.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Kawal. You have to select the message you want to forward either by 
doubletappping or doubletap and hold, then make sure the rotor is set to 
action, and swipe up or down to the more option and double tap. then you get 
choices to delete or forward which are at the bottom of the screen. Sometimes, 
the onscreen keyboard is still up which makes it slightly annoying to try and 
locate those delete or forward buttons. Hope this 
helps?
Cheers
Thuy

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> On 12 Mar 2014, at 15:49, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I have been trying to forward a text Message, but can't find how. How is it 
> done now, I even opened the Text Message but could find nothing to indicate 
> what to do.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: display brailles

[Thuy Mallalieu]

any idea what this mystery braille display is? Like you say, we might have 
better luck if we knew which one it was?
Cheers
Thuy


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> On 27 Apr 2014, at 15:13, Robert C  wrote:
> 
>   This display appears not to have a keyuboard, its strictly a display. I 
> think we need to leave this to someone who knows how to work this particular 
> display to help the person. Itherwise we will all go on side trips that lead 
> to nowhere.
> 
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> If you surrender to the wind, you can ride it.
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>> On 4/27/2014 6:58 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>> I forgot something. Although you can't assign Braille key commands unless 
>> you have the ability to write Braille on your display, you may be able to 
>> assign commands to your trackpad. I haven't done this, so someone else on 
>> this list will have to help you to do that if you want to do that.
>> Either that, or you may want to call that wonderful 877-204-3930 number. 
>> That is the Apple Accessibility number for blind and deaf customers.
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi again
>>> You can't assign commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on 
>>> your display. That was why I was asking you if you could write Braille on 
>>> your display. Otherwise, all you would have the ability to do is to read 
>>> braille on your braille display. It sounds like that your display is 
>>> supported by voice over because otherwise you would've had to do more to 
>>> make it work or maybe it wouldn't have worked it all. So it sounds like 
>>> that you will need to use your computer keyboard to do everything like 
>>> putting things in and use your Braille display toread braille on your 
>>> programs such as text edit. In fact, text edit is the first program that I 
>>> would recommend you start with to practice with your braille display. You 
>>> may need to press command shift w in text edit so that when you get to the 
>>> bottom of the first page your text will start on the next page.
>>> Gigi
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera 
  wrote:
 
 my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to 
 navigate things, do i have to go to the voice over utility > braille then 
 i have to assign some commands?
> On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi there
> Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not 
> mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my 
> focus 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the 
> focus 14 blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word 
> about voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is listed 
> under its manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the Macintosh for 
> supported Braille displays. So, you might look in the Getting Started 
> with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if it's on the list. You first 
> look under the manufacturer, and then it has the displays under that 
> manufacturer that are supported.
> 
> In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not 
> exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately 
> tell you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which 
> is under Windows. Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under 
> supported braille displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if 
> yours wasn't listed there. I was most impressed to see the braille 
> displays listed there, some of which I never heard of before.
> 
> Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get 
> braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's 
> on the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those 
> displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I don't 
> think you would see braille on your display if you are able to get 
> braille on it without going through more complicated connections. I hope 
> what I just said makes sense.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the manual 
>> for my display braille but in the manual there's no instruction how to 
>> use it on the mac,. my mom read it for me, and there's all instruction 
>> to use this display braille for all screen reader except for voice over,
>>> Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth 
>>>  ha scritto:
>>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> I am not sure if I made my question clear. You

Re: waking up macbook pro

[Thuy Mallalieu]

I've been finding this issues waking up my macbook air running mavericks, but I 
thought it was because the battery was dropping to below 15 or 20 percent. Now 
I'm wondering if it is a problem with voiceover depending on which voice is 
being used. I have been using acapella and tried changing my default voice to 
Alex, and haven't experienced this sluggishness since. Hope it works for you 
all too?
Cheers
Thuy

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> On 20 May 2014, at 06:15, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
> I've been seeing this with my Mac Mini too. I thought it was in conflict with 
> time Machine or something. I have seen more sluggishness lately with 
> Mavericks. Mountain Lion was much more snappy in my opinion.
> 
>> On May 16, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Gary  wrote:
>> 
>> This is also true on an iMac running Mavericks.  I can press any key to wake 
>> up the computer, but VoiceOver has a long delay before it wakes.
>> 
>> Gary
>>> On May 8, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all!
>>> One of the things I've always liked about my macbook pro is that I could 
>>> close the lid and when I re-opened it I had almost instant access to the 
>>> computer.
>>> Since Mavericks that is not the case.  Voiceover will not speak at first, 
>>> and there is about 10 seconds in which I cannot do anything at all but 
>>> patiently wait for my computer to have its morning cup 'o jo after waking 
>>> up;
>>> Does anybody else have this sluggish problem?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim
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Re: Lock Rotation on an iPad 2 *WHERE* in control center?

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Mark. The side switch may already be set to lock rotation, in which case it 
will not appear in the control centre. You can find the setting for the side 
switch in settings/general. It can be set to mute sounds or rotation lock, and 
whichever one is selected, will put the other in the control centre. Hope this 
helps?
Cheers
Thuy


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> On 17 Jun 2014, at 17:46, Mark Baxter  wrote:
> 
> Yesterday, some counseled me that I could lock my iPad 2's rotation to 
> portrayed mode from the Control Center.  I've looked in Control Center, and 
> see nothing relevant to it.  Sorry to be a moron, but could someone clarify 
> where in Control Center I specify a rotation lock?
> Thanks.
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Re: Lock Rotation on an iPad 2 *WHERE* in control center?

[Thuy Mallalieu]

no i'm refering to the flick switch above the volume buttons.

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> On 17 Jun 2014, at 19:57, Mark Baxter  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Thuy:
> 
> I have noted the side switch set to lock rotation within Settings.  However, 
> nothing I do, either pressing the side switch (either up or down) or changing 
> it to "mute," seems to actually lock the rotation.  My assumption here was 
> that VoiceOver had cooped the side switch for volume, as that is always what 
> it does--raise and lower the volume.  However, I shall test this by changing 
> the selection in settings to "mute," and then going to Control Center to see 
> if I can lock the rotation from there. *smile*
> Thanks; be well
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Re: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Kawal. One workaround for this is to go into 
settings/general/accessibility/call audio routing and setting it to bluetooth 
rather than auto. If you don't have the bluetooth headset switched on, the 
audio still goes through the phone's earpiece as usual, but if the bluetooth 
headset is on, you can use them to make the call as expected. Hope this helps?
Cheers
Thuy

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> On 24 Jan 2016, at 21:05, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Yes, the but is still there.  I tried it after the latest update.
> 
> Thanks for reporting it if you have.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 24 Jan 2016, at 18:30, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>>   If you mean the Bluetooth connection is lost when a call is made, yeah. I 
>> was not even aware it was a bug for I kept forgetting to look into it. Is it 
>> still present in cersion 9.2.1? I am afraid to try it. Its time to send a 
>> note to Apple and remind them. I will do that right now.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 1/23/2016 10:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> Morning All, or whatever the day may be for you all.
>>> 
>>> I hope those of you who are in the affected areas of the US are safe
>>> with the weather being what it is with the lizards etc.
>>> 
>>> I notice from all the IOS updates, the headphone bug which Jonathan
>>> Mosen went in to details when he did his first podcast on the new IOS
>>> when it came out last September or October still hasn’t been fixed.  I
>>> am very surprised that Apple haven’t managed to fix it yet.  It’s
>>> frustrating that I can’t make any voice calls using my new Aftershokz
>>> Bluez Sports.  By the way, I like the new model of headset.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: Braille, safari etc.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Kawal. I am using the Focus 14 with iphone 6 running iOS 9 and it works 
fine. So I don't think there's an issue with the software. Hope this helps?
Cheers
Thuy

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> On 13 Oct 2015, at 21:41, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> Hello All.
> 
> I have installed El Capitan on my I Mac three times since I messed it up 
> twice so I’ve had plenty of practice.  I must say even though I had help 
> putting the installer on a USB stick, it was the first time that I installed 
> the whole operating system on my own.  I could not have done this if I had 
> been using Windows.  It’s an achievement for me since during the day, I use 
> Windows at work and only use the Mac at home so I don’t get a great deal of 
> time using the Mac operating system on a regular basis.
> 
> First, I have altered some preferences in Safari on my Mac and Mac Mini and 
> still the favourite bar even though I went in view options to get rid of it 
> keeps coming up.  So when I open safari, my home page won’t come up even 
> though I have specified that in preferences.  All I want is a clean page of 
> safari when I open it so I get a home page, a bit like what you get in 
> windows.  Hope this makes sense as it’s the end of the day for me and I hope 
> I’m making sense.
> 
> Secondly, when i connect my Focus to my I phone 6S plus, it crashes.  Has 
> anyone experienced this and is the Focus broken with IOS 9 on an I phone?  I 
> have the newer models of Focus, the 40 and 14 respectively.
> 
> I haven’t read all of Jonathan’s book yet due to time constraints but will 
> get round to it in case something has changed in braille.
> 
> Hope someone replies.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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Re: I am frustrated.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Kawal. I wonder if the status cell 
has been switched on by mistake? I remember in an older version of ios that 
used to crash if the status cell is on. I wonder if the restore from backup 
didn't bring across althe settings properly. Try setting it up with the speech 
and maybe forget the device and try pairing it again. Hope you can get it to 
work ok. I know how frustrating it is, especially when you get so reliant on 
using the braille.
Cheers
Thuy
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> On 16 Oct 2015, at 13:54, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> Hello everyone.
> 
> I am very frustrated with my Braille display.
> 
> For some reason, it works for a short while on my iPhone, and then it stops. 
> Also, when I input the text, if I write three words, two words show.
> 
> I am away this weekend from my computer, so have to use the Braille display 
> and my iPhone.
> 
> What I don't understand is, why everyone else says they can use their braille 
> display, and I cannot? 
> Normally, I have been very good with a  Braille display and could use it with 
> my iPhone, and I was using it with no problem when using the iPhone when the 
> last iOS was out.
> 
> Normally, I have always been able to use the Braille display successfully.
> 
> I am dictating this message because I cannot use Braille display very well.
> 
> Also, when I write a message, when in the text messing app, if I press the 
> enter key, it sends the message rather than making a new line. I have checked 
> the settings in accessibility and wonder what else I am missing? Also I write 
> contracted and it appears in grade 1. If I have done something or missed 
> another step in this process, please enlighten me as I cannot input braille 
> using my hands as they hurt after a while so I need to use this display. So 
> help!
> 
> The way to go onone's birthday! ☺️
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Re: Sonnia Iphone and braille note apex

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi. I think you might need to put the Apex into braille terminal mode and tell 
it to use bluetooth for it's connection in the bluetooth manager?

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On 07/08/2010, at 18:06, focus  wrote:

> Hi Sonnia!
> I do not use ether device but I know that some bluetooth device's can be 
> hidden your apxx  should not be hidden but the Iphone might!
> if I'm wrong sorry!
> :-]
> On 7 Aug 2010, at 17:35, Sonnia wrote:
> 
>> Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/
>> bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing
>> else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and
>> bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on
>> Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> Normally the code for bluetooth devices is  or 1234, so it was a guess. 
>>> But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex.
>>> 
>>> Best regards Annie.
>>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Annie,
 How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for quite a 
 while. Thanks.
 Isaac
 - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" 
 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM
 Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex
 
 
> Hi.
> 
> Yes the apex is supported.
> 
> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone.
> 
> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the code 
> is  or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write again.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
> 
>> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't  supported by iOS 4 
>> to be used as braille displays.  Best idea though to be sure,  is to 
>> check the apple accessibility page at http://apple.com/accessibility.
>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote:
>> 
>>> I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the
>>> services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow the
>>> iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying "searching"
>>> but nothing appears
>>> 
>>> Isaac Obie wrote:
 Hello Sonia,
 If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user 
 guide, in
 there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones.
 Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my 
 braille
 display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide and 
 see
 what you can find on pairing with a cellphone
 Isaac
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 From: "Sonnia" 
 To: "MacVisionaries" 
 Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM
 Subject: Iphone and braille note apex
 
 
> Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to
> pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused.
> Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I read
> something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need
> one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks
> everyone. :-)
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Re: Iphone and braille note apex

[Thuy Mallalieu]

hi. i frequently have three devices connected. esys 12 braille display from 
eurobraille, freedom keyboard, altec lancing headset. this is with 3gs. 

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On 08/08/2010, at 2:29, "Isaac Obie"  wrote:

> Hello Sonia,
> Congratulations! That Apex is supposed to behave and connect like charm! 
> After all, this is HumanWare's latest bonus baby! So I guess you'll have to 
> figure something out.
> One thing I learned today is that the iphone 4 seems only able to handle one 
> input device at a time. I wanted to connect a braille display and a keyboard. 
> It wouldn't do it! The guy helping me said he was going to need to talk to 
> the genius bar guys about this one. Have you or anyone else run across this 
> issue? Thanks.
> Isaac
> - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" 
> To: "MacVisionaries" 
> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex
> 
> 
>> Well i managed to connect the iphone to another braille display (its
>> one i rarely use because its clunky but at least i know how to pair
>> now!) the iphone can not load the apex drivers so i may need to call
>> apple or humanware and see what the next step would be
>> 
>> Isaac Obie wrote:
>>> Hello Sonia,
>>> I've just come from the Apple Store. I hooked up a brailleconnect12 to the
>>> iphine 4. Now it isn't easy to do this. there'are several steps that're not
>>> spoken. You really need the expert assistance of the Apple people. So why
>>> don't you let it rest a while and plan to go to your local Apple store and
>>> let them help you with it???
>>> Just a suggestion. Obviously you're not getting something right in the setup
>>> process.
>>> I didn't try to do it alone. I had the Apple guys do it! It worked well.
>>> Isaac
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Sonnia" 
>>> To: "MacVisionaries" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > Update: my brother has an iphone and i turned voice over and bluetooth
>>> > on and it couldn't find the apex either.
>>> >
>>> > Sonnia wrote:
>>> >> Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/
>>> >> bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing
>>> >> else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and
>>> >> bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on
>>> >> Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
>>> >> > Hi.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Normally the code for bluetooth devices is  or 1234, so it was a
>>> >> > guess. But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Best regards Annie.
>>> >> > On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > Hello Annie,
>>> >> > > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for >> > > 
>>> >> > > quite a
>>> >> > > while. Thanks.
>>> >> > > Isaac
>>> >> > > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen"
>>> >> > > 
>>> >> > > To: 
>>> >> > > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM
>>> >> > > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >> Hi.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Yes the apex is supported.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think >> > 
>>> >> > >> >> the
>>> >> > >> code is  or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write
>>> >> > >> again.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Best regards Annie.
>>> >> > >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't  supported >> 
>>> >> > >>> > >>> by
>>> >> > >>> iOS 4 to be used as braille displays.  Best idea though to be >> > 
>>> >> > >>> >>> sure,
>>> >> > >>> is to check the apple accessibility page at
>>> >> > >>> http://apple.com/accessibility.
>>> >> > >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote:
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> >  I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and >> 
>>> >> >  >  the
>>> >> >  services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." >> > 
>>> >> >   somehow
>>> >> >  the
>>> >> >  iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying
>>> >> >  "searching"
>>> >> >  but nothing appears
>>> >> > 
>>> >> >  Isaac Obie wrote:
>>> >> > > Hello Sonia,
>>> >> > > If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for >> 
>>> >> > > > > user
>>> >> > > guide, in
>>> >> > > there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones.
>>> >> > > Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired 
>>> >> > > >> > > my
>>> >> > > braille
>>> >> > > display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user
>>> >> > > guide and see
>>> >> > > what you can find on pairing with a cellphone
>>> >> > > Isaac
>>> >> > > - Original Message -
>>> >> > > From: "Sonnia" 
>>> >> > > To: "MacVisionaries" 
>>> >> >

Re: alternative vm software

[Thuy Mallalieu]

I have compared Parallels and Fusion and have found the latter to be way 
faster. I think there must be an issue with his config because mine was very 
fast even with its default Ram allocation of 512.

Sent from my iPhone

On 14/08/2010, at 21:11, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

> If you want the fastest windows experience, boot camp is the way to go, since 
> all of the processor and memory resources are devoted to windows when using 
> it. VMware fusion currently is the only accessible virtualization package for 
> the mac, if you give us more details, we might be able to figure out why it's 
> so slow for you. From what I've heard, parallels is actually faster than 
> fusion, but since it's not accessible, and the company is unwilling to 
> correct this, we can't do much with it.
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 3:10 AM, chad baker wrote:
> 
>> Hi is there any alternative virtual machine software besides fusion?
>> I'm finding it real sluggish.
>> I wish virtualbox was accessible.
>> I want to try bootcamp but i don't have anyone sighted around.
>> Is there a work around or no?
>> thanks
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Re: Bluetooth Brail Display without Keyboard

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Erik. The EuroBraille esys displays can have the input keys disabled or the 
BrailleConnect displays have the input keys recessed so that they are below the 
level of the 
top plate of the chasis, which makes it difficult to inadvertently input 
Braille. Hope this helps?
Cheers
Thuy
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> I'm not sure but I think you have it backwards.  :)  There's a braille input 
> output model with display and keyboard, and there's a braille input model 
> with keyboard only.
> 
> It doesn't really make any sense not to have the input feature on any modern 
> display really.  Although, having said that, a switch that locks the controls 
> would be nice for people who don't want braille input and no one has that as 
> far as I know.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
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> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
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> On 2013-07-23, at 10:37 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
>> Isn't the braille pen a good & very affordable option?  I believe they have 
>> a model with 12Cells and no keyboard.
>> 
>> http://www.braillepen.com
>> On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:01 AM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>> 
>>> Brailliant classic 24 sounds like your baby.
>>> 
>>> You can probably even find one cheep.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
>>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2013-07-22, at 6:11 PM, Brian Unitt  wrote:
>>> 
 I am looking for a compact bluetooth brail display that does not have a 
 brail keyboard, to use with my iPad. any suggestions. I am using a 
 Refreshabrail display right now but the brail keyboard overrides my qwerty 
 keyboard which is my preferred input method.
 
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Re: Pairing of Amazon Basics keyboard.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Kawal. There is a podcast on this keyboard on applevis. I think they covered 
all this but can't quite remember. 

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> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: Kawal Gucukoglu 
>> Date: 28 December 2012 04:13:15 PM GMT
>> To: "viph...@googlegroups.com" 
>> Subject: Pairing of Amazon Basics keyboard.
>> Reply-To: viph...@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> I received today my Amazon Basics keyboard and am unable to pair it.  
>> However, if someone has one of these, I'd like to know how the batteries go 
>> in, I put them with the two pointy things two the left.  It doesn't matter 
>> how I slide the switch to the left or right, it's not showing up in the 
>> bluetooth settings.  I'd like to know if the pairing button is next to the 
>> slider switch and whether or not I have the batteries in correctly, how to 
>> pair it and what way should I slide the switch please?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Pairing of Amazon Basics keyboard.

[Thuy Mallalieu]

How much more compact than the apple keyboard is it?

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> Thanks Thuy.
> 
> I will have a look at Applevis but I got it working and at last I find a 
> keyboard where the Command and Option keys and VO keys work.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 28 Dec 2012, at 04:37 PM, Thuy Mallalieu  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kawal. There is a podcast on this keyboard on applevis. I think they 
>> covered all this but can't quite remember. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
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>>>> From: Kawal Gucukoglu 
>>>> Date: 28 December 2012 04:13:15 PM GMT
>>>> To: "viph...@googlegroups.com" 
>>>> Subject: Pairing of Amazon Basics keyboard.
>>>> Reply-To: viph...@googlegroups.com
>>>> 
>>>> Hello.
>>>> 
>>>> I received today my Amazon Basics keyboard and am unable to pair it.  
>>>> However, if someone has one of these, I'd like to know how the batteries 
>>>> go in, I put them with the two pointy things two the left.  It doesn't 
>>>> matter how I slide the switch to the left or right, it's not showing up in 
>>>> the bluetooth settings.  I'd like to know if the pairing button is next to 
>>>> the slider switch and whether or not I have the batteries in correctly, 
>>>> how to pair it and what way should I slide the switch please?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> 
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Re: tiny iphone keyboards

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Sonnia. Freedom also do the I-connex mini which is the same size as the 
iphone itself but much thinner and lighter. You can do everything from it 
including waking up the iphone. Hope this helps. Cheers
Thuy


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> Hi all. I purchased a freedom iconex folding bluetooth keyboard for my
> iPhone 4. It snapped in half and doesn't work anymore. I was wondering
> if anyone had an idea of what "mini" keyboard i could use for my
> phone. I am hoping i can find a keyboard that's about the size of a
> blackberry or android's keyboard so it's not to bulky. Any
> suggestions?
> Thanks!
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Re: NantWorks Object Recognition Technology Wins FCC Chairman's Award

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Mine seems to have stopped working too although I haven't tried it since ios5 
yet. It used to just emit a flute note.

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On 28 Oct 2011, at 10:49, Scott Howell  wrote:

> FUnny, works just fine on my phone. So, when you say it does not work, in 
> what way does it not work?
> 
> On Oct 27, 2011, at 10:03 PM, Tammy Cantrell wrote:
> 
>> Wonder if that was before it was improved to the point it does not work on 
>> my phone?  Just curious.
>> - Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" 
>> To: 
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 4:49 PM
>> Subject: NantWorks Object Recognition Technology Wins FCC Chairman's Award
>> 
>> 
>> thought the Money Reader users among us might find this interesting…
>> 
>> Have a great day All!
>> 
>> Smiles,
>> 
>> Cara :)
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>> NantWorks Object Recognition Technology Wins FCC Chairman's Award
>> 
>> An Early Win for Newly Formed NantWorks LLC, LookTel Turns a Smart Phone 
>> into a Device That Helps the Blind to See
>> 
>> LOS ANGELES, Oct 27, 2011 (BUSINESS WIRE)
>> 
>> NantWorks LLC, the company formed by Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong in September 
>> this year, announced that its LookTel technology had been selected as a 
>> winner of the Federal Communications Commission's (FCC) Chairman's Awards 
>> for Advancements in Accessibility. The award, which recognizes outstanding 
>> efforts to advance communications accessibility for people with 
>> disabilities, will be presented at a ceremony at FCC headquarters in 
>> Washington D.C. on October 28th 2011.
>> LookTel was developed for the blind and visually impaired. It enables a 
>> standard smart phone to be used to recognize objects such as currency bills, 
>> packaged goods, medication bottles, storefronts and landmarks. Recognition 
>> happens in real time, without delay, and the device will speak the identity 
>> of the object, for example the denomination of a bill.
>> "We are honored to have been chosen for this award from the FCC," said Dr. 
>> Soon-Shiong, "and delighted to be able to bring forward this important 
>> recognition platform, which is going to make a difference to many people's 
>> lives."
>> About NantWorks
>> NantWorks LLC is a company founded and led by Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong. Its 
>> mission is to converge semiconductor technology, supercomputing, advanced 
>> networks and augmented intelligence to transform how we work, play and live. 
>> Early applications will be in the field of scientific research and 
>> healthcare. For more information, see www.nantworks.com .
>> SOURCE: NantWorks LLC
>> 
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>>  NantWorks, LLC
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>> 
>> 
>> Copyright Business Wire 2011
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>> View the MarketWatch story at:
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Re: just a suggestion, Selecting on Iphone

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Hi Ramy. You can select text by including text selection in the rotor. You have 
to go into general / accessibility / voiceover / rotor. Make sure you double 
tap on it to check/select it. Once you rotor to text selection, swiping up or 
down goes through the selection types i.e character, word, line, heading and 
select all.  Then double tap once you chosen which element to select by. The 
only slightly tricky thing is if you need to select from a certain point in the 
text. You have to navigate to that point using move by character, word or line. 
Then you have to turn the rotor to text selection and swipe up or down to the 
type of selection required as stated above. Hope this helps
Cheers
Thuy


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> On 21 Mar 2017, at 13:25, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hello all:
> 
> After releasing the Ios v10, Selecting all text in an email or
> something became very hard, I must make many many trials to succeed.
> so am I the only one that has this,?
> all I need is to select the hole text in the email.
> 
> my suggestion is as follows:
> why apple can not try to give us a place to put a start and end mark
> for selecting instead of using 2 fingers etc which is not easy?
> we can just put a starting mark, and move by word or lines, then put
> an end mark.
> 
> Need to know your opinions.
> Thanks
> 
> 
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Re: just a suggestion, Selecting on Iphone

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Hi Ramy. Have you been able to put the text selection option into the rotor? If 
so, this should work in an email message, on a safari web page, in a note text 
field etc. It doesn't seem to work in the messages app if you are reading 
someone else's message, but if you are composing a message, it works in the 
edit field. So if you just want to select 2 words, first set the rotor to 
words, then swipe up or down to the word you want to start selecting from. Then 
turn the rotor to text selection. Now swipe up or down till it says word 
selection. Now swipe right and it will speak out the word to be selected. Swipe 
right again and it selects the next word. Now turn the rotor to edit. Now swipe 
up or down till it says copy. This copies the selection to the clipboard. Now 
go to the document or message you want to paste the selection into. You might 
need to double tap in the edit field to make sure that quick nav is turned off 
and you are ready to paste into the text area. You might have to double tap a 
couple of times to make sure you are either at the start or end of the field. 
Otherwise if you want to paste in the middle of the text, then turn the rotor 
to words, and swipe up or down to where you want to paste the selection. Now 
turn the rotor to edit and swipe up or down till it says paste. Finally double 
tap, and the selected text should be inserted at that point. Hope this explains 
ok.
Cheers
Thuy


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> On 22 Mar 2017, at 08:00, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> Thanks so much for that.
> 1st time for me to know that this feature was added.
> but,  it will work just in the text that am writing not any text that
> am reading. and also,
> can you give me  more explnations please?
> I tried it but with no success.
> if I have  a small sentence like "Good Morning my Friends".
> I need to select only the 2 words "my friends", what  shall I do?
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/22/17, Thuy Mallalieu  wrote:
>> Hi Ramy. You can select text by including text selection in the rotor. You
>> have to go into general / accessibility / voiceover / rotor. Make sure you
>> double tap on it to check/select it. Once you rotor to text selection,
>> swiping up or down goes through the selection types i.e character, word,
>> line, heading and select all.  Then double tap once you chosen which element
>> to select by. The only slightly tricky thing is if you need to select from a
>> certain point in the text. You have to navigate to that point using move by
>> character, word or line. Then you have to turn the rotor to text selection
>> and swipe up or down to the type of selection required as stated above. Hope
>> this helps
>> Cheers
>> Thuy
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 21 Mar 2017, at 13:25, Ramy Moustafa 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all:
>>> 
>>> After releasing the Ios v10, Selecting all text in an email or
>>> something became very hard, I must make many many trials to succeed.
>>> so am I the only one that has this,?
>>> all I need is to select the hole text in the email.
>>> 
>>> my suggestion is as follows:
>>> why apple can not try to give us a place to put a start and end mark
>>> for selecting instead of using 2 fingers etc which is not easy?
>>> we can just put a starting mark, and move by word or lines, then put
>>> an end mark.
>>> 
>>> Need to know your opinions.
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: 6th gen Ipod nano

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Do you know if it's possible to pause a recording and resume without creating a 
new file each time?

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On 31 Jan 2011, at 21:43, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Yes, it has Voice memos on page 4.
> On 31 Jan 2011, at 15:07, Courtney Curran wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Also, one other question I forgot to ask, does it have voice memos?
>> Courtney
>> 
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:26 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Cortney, 
>>> 
>>> Yes, the 6th gen Nano does have a clock.  As for the cross-fade, I think so 
>>> but have not looked for that feature.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, 
 Can the music app on the Ipod Nano have the ability to crossfade? Also, 
 does the 6th gen Ipod nano have a clock?
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Re: Is anyone else having issues reading Kindle books on iOS using a braille display?

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Des and anyone else experiencing these issues. I too was having these 
problems and tried several Braille Displays and still the same problems with 
turning pages with the panning buttons with every Display including the Focus 
40 that seemed to work ok for Mark. That got me thinking about changing some of 
the viewing options. I think Mark can see a bit, so I wondered if he might have 
increased the font size in his kindle viewing options. So i pressed the 
increase font size button a few times, and hey presto, the page turning seems 
to be working now. So give it a go and see if it works for you as well.
Cheers
Thuy


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> On 21 Jan 2018, at 21:23, Des Delgadillo  wrote:
> 
> Hmm, strange. I’ve confirmed the setting is indeed set to on. I’ll try a few 
> things and see if I can’t get it sorted.
> 
> I wonder though, is there a key command to get the display to advance 
> automatically? This would be a great feature in my opinion.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2018, at 9:46 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Des,
>> 
>> I am happy to report that, using my Focus 40 Blue with the latest version of 
>> both iOS and the Kindle app on my iPhone 8 Plus, I can change Kindle book 
>> pages seamlessly via the panning buttons on my Focus.  
>> 
>> Confirm the following setting is configured correctly:
>> 
>> 1.
>> From the iOS Settings area, select General.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Select Accessibility.  
>> 
>> 3.
>> Select VoiceOver.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Select Braille.
>> 
>> 5.
>> Set the "Turn Pages When Panning", option, to "ON".
>> 
>> Good Luck and Enjoy,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Des Delgadillo
>> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 2:37 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Is anyone else having issues reading Kindle books on iOS using a 
>> braille display?
>> 
>> Not sure if this is just my issue, but whenever I read on the Kindle app and 
>> reach the end of the page, continuing to pan doesn’t do anything and I’m 
>> unable to continue on in the book.
>> 
>> Any ideas as to what could be causing this?
>> 
>> Alternatively, is there a way to make a braille display scroll automatically?
>> 
>> Thanks guys!
>> 
>> —Des
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Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks

[Thuy Mallalieu]

yeah. i was wondering about that too.


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> On 27 Oct 2016, at 23:35, Douglas Lawlor  wrote:
> 
> Quick question:
> With the lack of function keys on the new MacBook Pro how does one go about 
> turning VoiceOver on and off. The current VO guide still says to use 
> Command+F5. 
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
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>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Looks like we’ll have lots of keys to map now with the light bar.  I’m 
>> intrigued by the idea but need to try one out myself to see what it’s like.
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 11:12 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sure, if osx suffices for your use cases, this is probably correct.
>>> 
>>> But, if you want to host virtual machines, e.g. via VMware, here's yet
>>> another key to map, and yet another way to make using those virtual
>>> machines problematic, i.e. harder to reliably stay in the vm vs
>>> accessing the chrome of the host vm server.
>>> 
>>> Personally speaking, I'm not satisfied remapping Ctrl, Option, and
>>> Command to host Windows and Linux. I've just not been sufficiently happy
>>> with doing this on my Airbook to the extent that I took an 8 year old
>>> laptop with me on my last several business trips rather than the
>>> Airbook.
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> Kliphton Miller writes:
 Honestly, who uses an escape key anyway.  I was just sitting here 
 thinking, and I couldn't think of 1 thing I actually use the escape key 
 for.  Windows yes, but not on OSX.  JMO
 
 Miller Family
 Without Christ there is no life!
 
 On Oct 26, 2016, at 4:23 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
 
 I'm starting to lose faith in apple,
 
 These things sound like going to far,
 
 But then hey, I had no issues with the headphone jack going...
 Guess this is a wait and see situation.
 
 I just want a quad core processor in my mac book air and `32gig ram with 
 1tb ssd 
 
 I'll be happy even with a 13 inch device and those specs.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2016 1:45 PM
 To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 
 mac4thebl...@freelists.org
 Subject: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks
 
 I just saw an article talking about how you can re-map and existing key, 
 such as control, caps lock, command or option, to take the place of the 
 escape key which is going away on the new MacBooks to be revealed on 
 Thursday. There will still be that functionality on the new magic track 
 bar or whatever they're calling it. But if you are a person who wants to 
 have a hardware escape key, you will have to remap an existing key to get 
 it. For those of you who use caps lock for voiceover, good luck. I have no 
 idea how that Mike coexist with this new functionality. Or you're stuck 
 with the new magic track bar and it's soft functionality. Could be 
 interesting.
 Mary
 
 
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Re: Can anyone recommend an accessible guitar tuning app?

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Donna. I found this app years ago, and just tried it again, and it still 
seems to work?

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/guitar-tuner/id310457191

> On 23 Sep 2024, at 14:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Dave.
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2024, at 8:01 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> Correct. That’s all it does.
>> Dave Carlson
>> Woodworker, Farfar, Oregonian, pioneer, engineer, and Musician
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2024, at 5:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> But does Talking Tuner actually play a note?  I downloaded it, and it looks 
>> like all it does is listen when you play, and tell you how close you are.  
>> Who knows, I’m looking for a digital solution when maybe I should just go 
>> out and buy a tuning fork. Lol
>> 
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
 On Sep 22, 2024, at 10:17 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> yeah. I understand. I have perfect pitch too but sometimes things can 
>>> affect it.
>>> 
 On Sep 22, 2024, at 9:35 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 I just want some thing that plays the note.  I’ve always had perfect 
 pitch, but lately I’ve started to wonder if I’m going sharp.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
> On Sep 22, 2024, at 7:14 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> the one I have is called “talking tuner” it tells you in speech how close 
> you are to the note you want. I don’t like it. I’d rather use my ears but 
> I think it’s pretty accurate.
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2024, at 6:56 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all.  If anyone uses a digital tuner that is accessible, 
>> I’d love to know what it is.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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