MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi all, I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. I'm in the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the Mac world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in Windows for my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open Office works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and databases compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my Windows machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the Mac any time soon. As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may be made accessible in the future? Thanks, Russell --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi Alex, Thanks for that. As I said, I don't yet have a Mac, but was thinking of getting an iMac, which of course I wouldn't be able to take to work with me. A MacBook is an option though. Thanks again, Russell -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility Hi, Russel, The first answer is yes OOO is fully compliant with MS standard OS propriotary formats for 2003/4 and 2007/8 formats. For your second thing, what stops you from using the utils in OS X to bind to your work's servers and use your Mac there? Regards, Alex, On 12-Jul-09, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. > I'm in > the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the > Mac > world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in > Windows for > my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open > Office > works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and > databases > compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a > database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my > Windows > machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the > Mac any > time soon. > > As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may > be made > accessible in the future? > > Thanks, > > Russell > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi Josh, Is iWork a suite of apps like MS Office? Thanks, Russell From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility There are lots of alternatives to MS Office on the Mac. iWork works reasonably well and getting better. OpenOffice is pretty good. There's a great spreadsheet program that tons of Mac users use called "Tables" which is compatible with Excel formats. There are definitely quite a few choices, and your needs and personal preferences will really dictate which you use. Fortunately, you can try most or all of these before choosing to buy, and some are, of course, free. It is also quite common that, if you absolutely must have MS Office, for users to install Windows and a Windows screen reader into a virtual machine on their Mac. This allows you to run Mac and Windows applications side-by-side, which can be quite handy. I have found, though, that over time I have found Mac solutions for all my needs. Still, there's nothing stopping you from getting VMware Fusion and using it to install Windows/Jaws and just use the Mac for most things. Microsoft seems to have little or no interest in adhering to Apple's accessibility guidelines. Whether this is a conscious decision or not is debatable, but in either case, they are even more lax about accessibility in their Mac products than in their Windows one. It's quite ridiculous. Josh de Lioncourt .my other mail provider is an owl. Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt Music: http://stage19music.com Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: Hi all, I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. I'm in the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the Mac world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in Windows for my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open Office works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and databases compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my Windows machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the Mac any time soon. As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may be made accessible in the future? Thanks, Russell --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi May, No, the iMac is a desktop...well, sort of. It's actually quite cool...there's no tower. Everything is built into the monitor, so all you get is the monitor and keyboard. The CD/DVD drive, CPU, sound and video cards, RAM is all built into the monitor. A friend has one...she's not visually impaired though, and it's really nice. Thanks, Russell -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of May and Wynter Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:13 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility Now is an Imac a bigger version than the macbook? May and Wynter with a y - Original Message ----- From: "Russell Solowoniuk" To: Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:56 PM Subject: RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > Hi Alex, > > Thanks for that. As I said, I don't yet have a Mac, but was thinking of > getting an iMac, which of course I wouldn't be able to take to work with > me. > A MacBook is an option though. > > Thanks again, > > Russell > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:38 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > > Hi, > Russel, > > The first answer is yes OOO is fully compliant with MS standard OS > propriotary formats for 2003/4 and 2007/8 formats. > > For your second thing, what stops you from using the utils in OS X to > bind to your work's servers and use your Mac there? > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 12-Jul-09, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. >> I'm in >> the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the >> Mac >> world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in >> Windows for >> my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open >> Office >> works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and >> databases >> compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a >> database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my >> Windows >> machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the >> Mac any >> time soon. >> >> As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may >> be made >> accessible in the future? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Russell >> >> >> > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Article Slamming the iPhone
I just added my cities local mobile newspaper to my home screen, and can now click on a button and voila, I'm reading the newspaper, no matter where I'm at.waiting for a cab, waiting in a doctor's office.it's absolutely fantastic!! Something I was never able to do on my Nokia 6620.could never figure out how to navigate web pages on that! Love my iPhone! Russell From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone Hey Josh, I think the same question can be asked of those users who first laid hands on one of those touch-screen PDAs, but I guess some of those or most had keyboards. However, then we can take this same logic to any new interface. For example, those who remember the days of switching from DOS to Windows or who used the Linux command line and then moved to Gnome etc. Ah how the debate rages, but alas this to shall pass. I myself can't wait to get an iPhone and I can already see all the advantages it will offer over the windows mobile device I am using currently and don't much care for. On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: What I'd like to ask all these folks saying the iPhone is so inefficient is: How efficient were you three weeks after the first time you ever touched a QWERTY keyboard? It's a whole new model for human interface interaction. After three weeks, I have no problems just touching the battery status, or really much of anything else. Things are not hard to find. They do not move around, and the flick method of navigation is great when you are having trouble with a brand-new and unfamiliar screen. Sitting with an iPhone for an hour and then declaring it slow, inefficient, and difficult to navigate is just silly. :) The ever growing number of VI iPhone users will tell you the same. Sure, it takes time to be comfortable. Once you are, it's fantastic. :) Josh de Lioncourt .my other mail provider is an owl. Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt Music: http://stage19music.com Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Article Slamming the iPhone
Hi Alex, You wrote: "It does GPS comprible to Trekker and possibly better". Can you elaborate? Are you talking about Navigon? Apparently that's not available in North America right now, right? Don't get me wrong, I love my iPhone, and just want to make sure I'm not missing out on a GPS solution that I'm not aware of. Thanks, Russell From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone Hi, It does GPS comprible to Trekker and possibly better and provides the closest thing to a sighted experance. Plus it is designed to work with 56000 apps that do everything. Sure some developers are slow at making their apps accessible, but they are generally good folks who are doing their best and progress moves along smoothly. Regards, alex, On Jul 13, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Damon Fibraio wrote: OK, consider me a newbie. I have a Samsung blackjack 2 windows mobile smart phone with mobile speak and was planning on purchasing mobile geo. I keep hearing everybody going absolutely crazy over access to the I-phone. Can somebody tell me why this is so great? I don't really understand the hype. I do understand we get access right out of the box with voice over. I do understand that once you get used to the touch screen and the VO gestures and whatnot that this is really great access, according to what everybody is saying. But, why is the I-phone so great? Does it do GPS comparable to mobile Geo or wayfinder? What does this phone do that is making everybody turn inside out? I'd love to understand this, so any help you can provide would be great. I have AT&T and probably could switch if I wanted to, but I just don't understand why this phone is the second coming. -- Damon Fibraio screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibr...@comcast.net. skype: dfibraio Find me on facebook as Damon fibraio or twitter as dfibraio personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com. Band web sites: THD, http://www.thdband.com. Days Before Tomorrow, http://www.daysbeforetomorrow.com From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:37 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone Hey Josh, I think the same question can be asked of those users who first laid hands on one of those touch-screen PDAs, but I guess some of those or most had keyboards. However, then we can take this same logic to any new interface. For example, those who remember the days of switching from DOS to Windows or who used the Linux command line and then moved to Gnome etc. Ah how the debate rages, but alas this to shall pass. I myself can't wait to get an iPhone and I can already see all the advantages it will offer over the windows mobile device I am using currently and don't much care for. On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: What I'd like to ask all these folks saying the iPhone is so inefficient is: How efficient were you three weeks after the first time you ever touched a QWERTY keyboard? It's a whole new model for human interface interaction. After three weeks, I have no problems just touching the battery status, or really much of anything else. Things are not hard to find. They do not move around, and the flick method of navigation is great when you are having trouble with a brand-new and unfamiliar screen. Sitting with an iPhone for an hour and then declaring it slow, inefficient, and difficult to navigate is just silly. :) The ever growing number of VI iPhone users will tell you the same. Sure, it takes time to be comfortable. Once you are, it's fantastic. :) Josh de Lioncourt .my other mail provider is an owl. Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt Music: http://stage19music.com Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4239 (20090713) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4240 (20090713) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4240 (20090713) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com
RE: Article Slamming the iPhone
Yes, and it's amazing how accurate you get at finding the correct keys after a while! I'm sure I can type faster with the iPhone keyboard than I could with the Nokia 6620! Thanks, Russell -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone I disagree and I dont' think you can put any markers on the screen or it would interfere with the function of the phone. Point is there is no struggle once you get used to the interface. It's like anything else, you just have to get beyond the learning curve and the degree of the curve will be based on your experiences, level of patience, and level of interest. However, if you buy an iPhone, likely the level of interest will be considerably higher. :) On Jul 13, 2009, at 4:44 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > With the Iphone, can bumps be put on the spots where the F and J > keys are supposed to be? If not, I could see why it would take some > people a little too long to find the virtual home row. If somebody > can't find the home row, it will probably be a struggle to type each > key. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: navigon lite
Hi May, That makes perfect sense! Thanks. Will give it a try and when the GPS version comes out I'll be familiar with it! Russell From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of May and Wynter Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:31 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: navigon lite Hey Rustle there is a version called navigon lite that works with the IPhone for North America. I tried it out for a little while to see what if offered. For our North American version there's no gps coverage yet. So if you wanted to use it for routes while you're actually walking and outside it won't work. But if you wanted to plan a trip and get directions before you left it does that very well. Hope tha made sense. May and Wynter with a y --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
