notifications on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

this happens most often when I get a notification that they want to use my 
location or do I want to trust them to use a plugin but it also happens offline 
with any kind of notification. after I hear the notification I respond to it. 
then about 30 seconds or so later, Alex starts saying the notification again 
very slowly like he talks for date and time. what makes this happen? can I 
prevent it? he talks right over himself. in other words, vo will be reading me 
whatever's on the website and he'll start in with a notification I've already 
dealt with.  I should probably mention that I'm still running 
Mojave.suggestions?

thanks.
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Safari on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

is there a way to prevent Safari from suggesting a password when I'm signing up 
for something on a website? I don't like using those because I can't really 
read them letter by letter to write them down. of course I can press "don't 
use" but they keep popping up.

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adblock Plus on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

I've had Adblock Plus installed on my Mac for quite awhile. recently it blocked 
the player from loading on an audio drama website. if I white-listed that site 
would that take care of the situation or do I need to uninstall Adblock Plus? 

another thing is that I don't know how to whitelist sites can anybody tell me 
how to do it?

thanks.
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Re: 'Lockdown' open source firewall app leaps from iOS to Mac, blocks app and website trackers for free, 9 to 5 Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

Mark, do you know if this can be used in conjunction with Adblock Plus or 
should users just have one or ther other?

> On Feb 15, 2020, at 6:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> "Lockdown" open source firewall app leaps from iOS to Mac, blocks app and
> website trackers for free
> By Michael Potuck 
> 
> Lockdown launched last summer as the first open source firewall for iOS to
> block website and app trackers and it runs completely on-device. Now
> Lockdown has arrived for Mac as a free app.
> Lockdown is developed by the same team that makes Confirmed VPN, the first
> open source VPN for iOS and Mac.
> With Lockdown landing on Mac today, it's a free app like the iOS version
> with customers able to use it alongside Confirmed VPN that starts from
> $5/month.
> Just like the iOS version of Lockdown, on Mac it's easy to add custom
> domains that you'd like to block and quickly view all the trackers from
> websites and apps that have been blocked with data for the day, week, and
> all-time.
> A nice small touch, Lockdown for Mac respects the system-wide Dark Mode.
> 
> Lockdown features:
> PRIVACY
> . Block any connection to any website
> . Use our default settings or add your own custom blockers
> . Protect your privacy across the web
> TRANSPARENCY
> . Lockdown is completely open source
> . Lockdown operates completely on device
> SPEED
> . Browse faster by blocking unwanted connections
> Lockdown for macOS is launching today as a free download from the Mac App
> Store. You can learn more about Lockdown on its website and see the open
> source audit reports here.
> 
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Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a phone? I'm 
familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username and password on a 
Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm not even sure if it's 
turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it on once.

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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

I don't have face ID or touch ID enabled. do I need one of those to activate 
keychain on an IOS device?

> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
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> Hi, When you go to a website where keychain has your log in credentials 
> saved, you will see it ask you if you want to log into the website using the 
> username or email you provided then next to that you will get a button that 
> says log in with and it will say your username. double tap on that button and 
> you will have to authenticate with FaceID or Touch ID.
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>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a phone? 
>> I'm familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username and 
>> password on a Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm not 
>> even sure if it's turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it on 
>> once.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

can you tell me how to activate it?

thanks.
Lorie



> On Mar 1, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
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> hi,
> You don't need any of that.  You might need to enter your pass code though.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 17:29, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't have face ID or touch ID enabled. do I need one of those to activate 
>> keychain on an IOS device?
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, When you go to a website where keychain has your log in credentials 
>>> saved, you will see it ask you if you want to log into the website using 
>>> the username or email you provided then next to that you will get a button 
>>> that says log in with and it will say your username. double tap on that 
>>> button and you will have to authenticate with FaceID or Touch ID.
>>> 
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>>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> if keychain is turned on, how does it look on an ios device, say, a 
>>>> phone? I'm familiar with how to use command-shift-a to fill in username 
>>>> and password on a Mac but I don't know what to look for on my phone. I'm 
>>>> not even sure if it's turned on or not although I know I tried to turn it 
>>>> on once.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
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Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

Keychain is on in my phone but I've never seen the option to use it? is there 
something I need to do on my Mac?

thanks.
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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I guess 
that's not where it is.

thanks.
Lorie

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access is 
> an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and logons.
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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
> interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I guess 
>> that's not where it is.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson >> <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access is 
>>> an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and 
>>> logons.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

I did say I went to iCloud in system prefs. didn't have much luck the first 
time I tried it but after you described to me how to do it, I think I got that 
box checked. I'm still running Mojave.

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
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> i thought you said you went to iCloud prefs.  That is where it is in Mojave.
> In Catalina you will go to internet accounts.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 19:17, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder >> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
>>> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
>>> interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud >>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I 
>>>> guess that's not where it is.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson >>>> <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

I didn't go to internet accounts. I did go to iCloud. it's listed in system 
prefs. where I seem to run into trouble is knowing when to interact and what to 
interact with. if I don't do that right I don't find half of what's in there.

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
>   There is no iCloud preferences. Open System Preferences, Internet, choose 
> the account you want and in the table you will find Keychain where you can 
> enable it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 3/4/2020 5:17 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?
>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder >> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
>>> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  Then 
>>> interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud >>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I 
>>>> guess that's not where it is.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson >>>> <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain Access 
>>>>> is an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud passwords and 
>>>>> logons.
>>>>> 
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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

this is helpful info. I didn't know at all. oh yes. I can hear. thanks for 
this. often I hear sounds but I don't know what they mean.

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> Well, glad you got it.
> When ever the vo cursor moves over something that can be interacted with, 
> there is a sound effect and if it is a group of items it will also say group. 
>  It makes vo navigation much faster, but it is something to get used to.
> 
> in the vo help menu, there is a list of most if not all of the vo navigation 
> sounds.  You can just arrow through them.  i am assuming that you can hear.  
> If not then of course that won’t be of much help.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 21:38, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't go to internet accounts. I did go to iCloud. it's listed in system 
>> prefs. where I seem to run into trouble is knowing when to interact and what 
>> to interact with. if I don't do that right I don't find half of what's in 
>> there.
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is no iCloud preferences. Open System Preferences, Internet, choose 
>>> the account you want and in the table you will find Keychain where you can 
>>> enable it.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 3/4/2020 5:17 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>>> where is iCloud preferences? is it in system prefs?
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Barry Hadder >>>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you are wanting to turn on keychain sinking, do the following.
>>>>> In iCloud preferences, find the services group and interact with it.  
>>>>> Then interact with the table and find Keychain and check the box.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:10, Lorie McCloud >>>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> can you tell me how to do it? I went to system prefs and iCloud but I 
>>>>>> guess that's not where it is.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Dave Carlson >>>>>> <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lorie, (Interesting spelling of your name, by the way)). Keychain 
>>>>>>> Access is an app on your Mac. You can manage logon, system, iCloud 
>>>>>>> passwords and logons.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>>>>> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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Open Drive on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

I just installed Open Drive on my Mac. I have used it before but I've been told 
that it works better on a Mac now than it did at the time I was trying it. 
anyway, I opened the app, logged in and got "Open Drive has no windows." I 
can't find it although it says it's been installed. suggestions?

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Open Drive on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

no. I mean Open Drive.

> On Mar 8, 2020, at 5:19 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> Do you mean OneDrive?  If it’s OneDrive, you will find it in the menu extra.  
> Click on it and you will be able to access various options.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 8 Mar 2020, at 02:34, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I just installed Open Drive on my Mac. I have used it before but I've been 
>> told that it works better on a Mac now than it did at the time I was trying 
>> it. anyway, I opened the app, logged in and got "Open Drive has no windows." 
>> I can't find it although it says it's been installed. suggestions?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Open Drive on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

Open Drive is a cloud storage application something like dropbox.

> On Mar 7, 2020, at 10:00 PM, Donald Goosens  
> wrote:
> 
> What is open drive?
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I just installed Open Drive on my Mac. I have used it before but I've been 
>> told that it works better on a Mac now than it did at the time I was trying 
>> it. anyway, I opened the app, logged in and got "Open Drive has no windows." 
>> I can't find it although it says it's been installed. suggestions?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Open Drive on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

it's a cloud storage program like dropbox. a lot of people on the sharing lists 
are using it. I tried it 2 years ago and had a lot of trouble with it but now I 
hear they've got it straightened out for Mac so I'm trying it again. you get 5 
gig of free space. they also have paid plans. check it out at:
"www.opendrive.com <http://www.opendrive.com/>"

> On Mar 9, 2020, at 2:40 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Ok so that's what you mean,
> Now what is it?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Monday, 9 March 2020 10:53 AM
> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Open Drive on a Mac
> 
> no. I mean Open Drive.
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2020, at 5:19 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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>> 
>> Do you mean OneDrive?  If it’s OneDrive, you will find it in the menu extra. 
>>  Click on it and you will be able to access various options.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 8 Mar 2020, at 02:34, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just installed Open Drive on my Mac. I have used it before but I've been 
>>> told that it works better on a Mac now than it did at the time I was trying 
>>> it. anyway, I opened the app, logged in and got "Open Drive has no 
>>> windows." I can't find it although it says it's been installed. suggestions?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: Group wisdom on upgrading to Catalina?

[Lorie McCloud]

I decided to just wait until the next os comes out this fall. from my past 
experience I would say that it's likely to be a better version of Catalina. I 
like Mojave just fine so I can wait.

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
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> Hi folks,
> 
> Now that I’m back on list I have a bit more confidence about upgrading. 
> 
> I’m wondering if the group feels like Catalina is now functioning well and 
> worth upgrading or are many people sticking with a past OS?  I’m currently 
> working in Mojave.
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Re: Broadcasting apps for the Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

I'd like to know the answer to this too please.

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 3:56 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
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> Again subject states it all, are there any accessible broadcasting apps 
> similar to station playlist for windows for Mac? I know radiologic is 
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> voiceover as it could be, through no fault of his own because he uses custom 
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Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

I have tried to set things on my Mac and on my phone so that keychain works but 
I still can't find the option to use it when I'm asked to sign in somewhere on 
my phone. where is it on the screen? or perhaps there's another problem. 
suggestions?

thanks.
Lorie

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Facebook on IOS

[Lorie McCloud]

can anybody tell me how to copy a post or a block of text and then paste it 
somewhere else? I'm trying to do this on my phone in facebook. edit doesn't 
show up in the rotor.

thanks.
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Re: Facebook on IOS

[Lorie McCloud]

is it double tap and hold or just put your finger on it and press? and does it 
matter how many fingers?

thanks.

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 4:47 PM, David The Computer Guy  
> wrote:
> 
> What I do is I push and hold on the text and it will give me the option to 
> copy, same as with photos.
> 
> Sent from David The Computer Guy
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>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> can anybody tell me how to copy a post or a block of text and then paste it 
>> somewhere else? I'm trying to do this on my phone in facebook. edit doesn't 
>> show up in the rotor.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

Hi Mark,

you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. not 
that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're already saved 
in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my phone. oh well... 
I'll play around with it and see what happens.

Lorie

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Lorie,
> 
> You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
> 
> Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
> manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
> 
> It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
> free, as it were.
> 
> In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
> password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to 
> learn how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login 
> credentials when prompted by an app or a website.
> 
> The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
> login credentials, manually.
> 
> I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative topics 
> via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and nuances 
> of Key Chain, as a password manager, to cover in one succinct reply.
> 
> However, I will list the following points that you should keep in mind when 
> exploring the Apple Key Chain as a password manager.
> 
> Please keep in mind that I am referring to the automatic entry feature of the 
> Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, only:
> 
> 1.
> Generally speaking, the Apple Key Chain, as a password manager, works best 
> when logging into websites via Safari.
> 
> 2.
> Many websites will not function-as-expected with the Apple Key Chain, as a 
> password manager.
> 
> 3.
> While some third-party apps, such as those developed by Google, will work 
> with the Apple Key Chain, as an automatic-entry password manager, many more 
> will not function as expected.
> 
> 4.
> In some situations, when you want to use the Key Chain password manager 
> feature with an app, such as BARD Mobile for iOS, you will need to first 
> login to the service, via Safari, then when prompted, save the password.  
> Afterwards, when you are prompted to enter the username and/or password from 
> within the app, you can launch the Key Chain manager and have it enter your 
> credentials, automatically.
> 
> Possible Scenario in which you want to have your login credentials 
> automatically entered into a third-party app that does not support the Apple 
> Key Chain password manager, in iOS:
> 
> Assuming that you have the Apple Key Chain enabled as described in the Apple 
> user manuals:  
> 
> 1.
> Open Mark's Wonderful App, on your Apple device.  You are prompted for your 
> login credentials.
> 
> 2.
> Enter your credentials and select the continue / OK button.  You are logged 
> into the app without being prompted to save your credentials in the Apple Key 
> Chain.
> 
> 3.
> Logout of Mark's Wonderful App.
> 
> 4.
> Open Safari and go to www.MarksWonderfulAppsOnlineWebsite.
> 
> 5.
> Login to your account using your credentials.  Hopefully, you are prompted to 
> save your login credentials to the Apple Key Chain.
> 
> 6.
> Save your credentials to the Key Chain.
> 
> 7. 
> Logout of your account and close Safari.
> 
> 8.
> Open Mark's Wonderful App, on your Apple device.  You are prompted for your 
> login credentials.
> 
> 9.
> Activate an edit field, for example, the username or email edit field.  The 
> onscreen keyboard will appear.
> 
> 10.
> In the suggestion area of the onscreen keyboard, either select the correct 
> option, if listed or, select the "passwords" button.  Doing this will cause 
> your device to prompt you to authenticate your request.
> 
> 11.
> After successful authentication, you will see a list of all of your saved 
> accounts and credentials.
> 
> 12.
> Select the correct option and the credentials will be automatically entered 
> into the login text edit fields of Mark's Wonderful App.
> 
> 13.
> Select the continue / OK button.
> 
> 14.
> Put a big smile on your face.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:45 PM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Keychain
> 
> I have tried to set thin

Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

are you saying that you have to have security code and/or fingerprint enabled 
in order to use keychain on your IOS device? 

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 6:17 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I like my keychain to be simple.  If Mark’s wonderful keychain can keep my 
> passwords safe especially if I rely on the keychain to remember my passwords 
> for the websites I visit, then I am a happy person as I can’t remember 
> generated passwords so I keep my passwords simple but strong for me to 
> remember.  So Mark, how much is your wonderful keychain?
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 28 Mar 2020, at 15:14, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When in Safari, double-tap either the username entry field, or the password 
>> entry field.  This will activate your cursor and bring up the on-screen 
>> keyboard.  This next part isn't consistent, as sometimes it takes more 
>> swipes than others, but, if you have a keychain entry for this item, there 
>> will either be a suggestion or a "Password" button as you swipe right from 
>> the entry fields.
>> 
>> So, for example, if you were on www.fitbit.com <http://www.fitbit.com/>, and 
>> you double-tapped in the username field, then swiped right listening to the 
>> various elements announced by VO, you might get an item announced such as 
>> "Use Lori with such and such eMail address for fitbit.com 
>> <http://fitbit.com/>?".  If that is the one you wish to use, then double-tap 
>> it.  If it is not, or if the keychain is having difficulties figuring out 
>> which entry to use, there will also be a Password button that you can use 
>> that will open up all entries in your keychain.  Your fingerprint or FaceID 
>> will be required in both cases to access the keychain entries.  Also, the 
>> actual passwords are not displayed, just the site and username 
>> possibilities.  If you do not get a specific suggestion, then simply swipe 
>> through the choices until you find the one you wish to use.  Double-tap on 
>> it and its credentials will be entered for you.  You will usually still need 
>> to double-tap the Sign-In or LogIn buttons to proceed, but this is also a 
>> little inconsistent.  I'm not sure if the inconsistencies are due to Apple 
>> or due to the inconsistent nature of web-page coding.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 00:15, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
>> expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. not 
>> that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're already 
>> saved in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my phone. oh 
>> well... I'll play around with it and see what happens.
>> 
>> Lorie
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor >> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Lorie,
>>> 
>>> You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
>>> 
>>> Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
>>> manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
>>> 
>>> It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
>>> free, as it were.
>>> 
>>> In short, there are two general methods for using Apple Key Chain, as a 
>>> password manager.  The first method, which is what I suspect you wish to 
>>> learn how to use, is to have the Key Chain automatically enter your login 
>>> credentials when prompted by an app or a website.
>>> 
>>> The second method is to open the Key Chain password manager and lookup the 
>>> login credentials, manually.
>>> 
>>> I suggest that you read the Apple user manuals and search for relative 
>>> topics via Google as, in my opinion, there are just too many variables and 
>>> nuances of Key Chain, as a password manager, to cover in one succinct reply.
>>> 
>>> However, I will list the following points that you should keep in mind when 
>>> exploring the Apple Key Chain as a password manager.
>>> 
>>> Please k

Re: Keychain

[Lorie McCloud]

ok. that explains why I can't find it. thanks.

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:40 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Yes.  In order to use iCloud Keychain on your iOS device, you must have a 
> passcode enabled.  Once you have a passcode, you may use either TouchID or 
> FaceID, but this is optional.
> Keychain will not work without security enabled.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Mar 28, 2020, at 19:47, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> are you saying that you have to have security code and/or fingerprint enabled 
> in order to use keychain on your IOS device? 
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 6:17 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I like my keychain to be simple.  If Mark’s wonderful keychain can keep my 
>> passwords safe especially if I rely on the keychain to remember my passwords 
>> for the websites I visit, then I am a happy person as I can’t remember 
>> generated passwords so I keep my passwords simple but strong for me to 
>> remember.  So Mark, how much is your wonderful keychain?
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>>> On 28 Mar 2020, at 15:14, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When in Safari, double-tap either the username entry field, or the password 
>>> entry field.  This will activate your cursor and bring up the on-screen 
>>> keyboard.  This next part isn't consistent, as sometimes it takes more 
>>> swipes than others, but, if you have a keychain entry for this item, there 
>>> will either be a suggestion or a "Password" button as you swipe right from 
>>> the entry fields.
>>> 
>>> So, for example, if you were on www.fitbit.com <http://www.fitbit.com/>, 
>>> and you double-tapped in the username field, then swiped right listening to 
>>> the various elements announced by VO, you might get an item announced such 
>>> as "Use Lori with such and such eMail address for fitbit.com 
>>> <http://fitbit.com/>?".  If that is the one you wish to use, then 
>>> double-tap it.  If it is not, or if the keychain is having difficulties 
>>> figuring out which entry to use, there will also be a Password button that 
>>> you can use that will open up all entries in your keychain.  Your 
>>> fingerprint or FaceID will be required in both cases to access the keychain 
>>> entries.  Also, the actual passwords are not displayed, just the site and 
>>> username possibilities.  If you do not get a specific suggestion, then 
>>> simply swipe through the choices until you find the one you wish to use.  
>>> Double-tap on it and its credentials will be entered for you.  You will 
>>> usually still need to double-tap the Sign-In or LogIn buttons to proceed, 
>>> but this is also a little inconsistent.  I'm not sure if the 
>>> inconsistencies are due to Apple or due to the inconsistent nature of 
>>> web-page coding.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 00:15, Lorie McCloud >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> you're right. it's complicated. Safari is the only browser I use but I was 
>>> expecting it to be as easy to use as the saved credentials are on a Mac. 
>>> not that I don't have all my passwords written down but since they're 
>>> already saved in Safari on my Mac I was hoping to use a few of them on my 
>>> phone. oh well... I'll play around with it and see what happens.
>>> 
>>> Lorie
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor >>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Lorie,
>>>> 
>>>> You ask a simple question but, I’m afraid, the answer is not so simple.
>>>> 
>>>> Let me start by saying that I think the Apple Key Chain, as a password 
>>>> manager, is an excellent alternative to some third-party password managers.
>>>> 
>>>> It's safe, easy to use, consistent across all of your Apple devices, and 
>>>> free, as it were.
>>>> 
>>>> In short, there are two

Ocenaudio

[Lorie McCloud]

has anybody here ever done anything with Ocenaudio? I guess I don't know enough 
to figure it out. I don't know if you import files into it or open it to use in 
files you want to work on. any help is appreciated. this is on a Mac of course.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Keeping Finder Windows Open

[Lorie McCloud]

the way I do this is command-tilde from wherever I am. most of the time that 
will take me to my home driveor Macintosh hd. from that window I navigate to 
wherever I want the second open window to be and then I can use command-tilde 
to go between them. it'll say: "Cycle through windows."

Lorie

> On Apr 3, 2020, at 11:34 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Here’s something I can’t get to work with any consistency…
> I like to have more than one Finder window open at a time, pointing to 
> different drives or folders. Sometimes I can switch between then using VO+F2 
> but more often when I go to the desktop to open another volume or folder, the 
> current one closes. How do I open new windows without closing the current 
> window?
> 
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian
> 
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Re: Keeping Finder Windows Open

[Lorie McCloud]

my experience with this is that you can have however windows open that you 
want. you can cycle around through all of them using command-accent or whatever 
that is. maybe you have a different finder setting somewhere than I do but I've 
had 3 or 4 windows open many times.

> On Apr 4, 2020, at 7:23 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Lorie,
> I know about the Command+~ to switch between open windows. My problem is 
> keeping them all open. It’s rare that I ever have more than two open. When I 
> try to open a third, the previous one closes.
> 
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer
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Mac asking for my password when it's supposed to be asleep

[Lorie McCloud]

this often happens several hours after I have put my Mac to sleep. I'll be in 
another room and I'll hear it say: "enter password." what would make that 
happen? it might have something to do with updates. I can never find anything 
in my notifications.

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Re: Mac asking for my password when it's supposed to be asleep

[Lorie McCloud]

where would I change that? I wonder if it's responding to somebody nextdoor in 
this apartment complex. I do have a bluetooth trackpad right beside it but I'm 
not anywhere near it when it does this.

> On Apr 7, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> I think you have it set to wake from external bluetooth devices.
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Re: Mac asking for my password when it's supposed to be asleep

[Lorie McCloud]

hahaha! no. sadly no animals in here.

> On Apr 7, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
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> Have you got a cat?
> 
>> On 8/04/2020, at 09:38, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> this often happens several hours after I have put my Mac to sleep. I'll be 
>> in another room and I'll hear it say: "enter password." what would make that 
>> happen? it might have something to do with updates. I can never find 
>> anything in my notifications.
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Re: FaceBook on safari

[Lorie McCloud]

how do you get to facebook basic on a Mac?

thanks.
Lorie

> On Apr 11, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Michael Marshall  
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> Hey,
> I'm sure many people have suggested this already but you're better going to 
> Facebook basic, it's better than the mobile version.
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>>  Hi,
>> On my mac book air, using safari, and using the mobile URL  for face book, I 
>> cannot get the newsfeed link to function.
>> I click on it but nothing happens. When I click on other links on this site 
>> they do work.
>> Is it just that safari  will not function with face book?
>> Thanks.
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Re: How Do You Mute the Chat In A Zoom Meeting

[Lorie McCloud]

the only way I know of to do this is to turn vo off.

> On Apr 15, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> I don’t know anything about zoom for the Mac, but cant you mute voiceover 
> speech? It’s easy enough to do on the phone, and I thought there was a way to 
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> the speech. I know it’s a workaround, but it should work, just like it works 
> when you do that with close captions that are being read out or other things 
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>> Subject line sums it up, ... I can't follow what the speaker is saying 
>> because voice over tries to read what is being posted.  And if I leave the 
>> window it is even worse since whatever it is reading out the chat feed is 
>> very loud and can't be interrupted.  (Not that hitting control while in the 
>> window helps.)
>> 
>> I am on an iMac.
>> Any help much appreciated,
>> Thank YOU!
>> Joy
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Re: How Do You Mute the Chat In A Zoom Meeting

[Lorie McCloud]

well, technically you're right. that's what I do. it mutes voiceover.

> On Apr 15, 2020, at 10:06 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
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> You don’t need to turn VoiceOver off, you only need to mute it by doing a 
> three finger double tap on the trackpad or a three finger double tap on the 
> iPhone screen. This will keep voice-over on.
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> Sent from Petrus's iPhone
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> On 16/04/2020, at 15:01, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> the only way I know of to do this is to turn vo off.
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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>> I don’t know anything about zoom for the Mac, but cant you mute voiceover 
>> speech? It’s easy enough to do on the phone, and I thought there was a way 
>> to do it on the Mac as well. Then if you need to navigate around, just 
>> unmute the speech. I know it’s a workaround, but it should work, just like 
>> it works when you do that with close captions that are being read out or 
>> other things that you don’t want.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Apr 15, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Joy Cyr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Subject line sums it up, ... I can't follow what the speaker is saying 
>>> because voice over tries to read what is being posted.  And if I leave the 
>>> window it is even worse since whatever it is reading out the chat feed is 
>>> very loud and can't be interrupted.  (Not that hitting control while in the 
>>> window helps.)
>>> 
>>> I am on an iMac.
>>> Any help much appreciated,
>>> Thank YOU!
>>> Joy
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>>> Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. ..."
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Re: How Do You Mute the Chat In A Zoom Meeting

[Lorie McCloud]

I think it's command-f5

> On Apr 15, 2020, at 10:14 PM, Joy Cyr  wrote:
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> Thank you!  Is there a way to do this with a keyboard?  I don't have a track 
> pad and at least some of the time I would like to use the computer rather 
> than the phone.
> Joy
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Zoom

[Lorie McCloud]

for about the past week if I'm using Zoom on my iPhone it wants me to sign in 
every time. is there a box I can check somewhere that'll keep me signed in? 
there are people who send me messages on there and you have to be signed in for 
that.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Zoom

[Lorie McCloud]

I turn my phone off at night. that seems to have something to do with it. I 
guess I'm going to eventually create a pass code and touch ID for my phone.

> On Apr 17, 2020, at 5:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Lorie,
> 
> Unless you manually sign out of the Zoom app, you should remain signed in.
> 
> It might be a good idea for you to enable the Face ID / Touch ID toggle, 
> located in the Settings area of the app.  
> 
> If you have not enabled either of these authentication features, on your iOS 
> device, before installing the app, then that could be the reason why you are 
> continually prompted to enter your Zoom login credentials.  
> 
> Mark
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:14 PM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Zoom
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> for about the past week if I'm using Zoom on my iPhone it wants me to sign in 
> every time. is there a box I can check somewhere that'll keep me signed in? 
> there are people who send me messages on there and you have to be signed in 
> for that.
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> thanks.
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Re: Zoom

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2 reasons. 
1. I think it's better of the device if it isn't on all the time.
2. I don't want to be disturbed. I know I could turn on airplane mode or 
something like that but since I think it should be off sometimes I might as 
well do it when I don't want to be disturbed.

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
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> I’m curious, why do you turn your phone off at night?
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>> On 19/04/2020, at 08:45, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> I turn my phone off at night. that seems to have something to do with it. I 
>> guess I'm going to eventually create a pass code and touch ID for my phone.
>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2020, at 5:15 PM, M. Taylor >> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
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>>> Hello Lorie,
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>>> Unless you manually sign out of the Zoom app, you should remain signed in.
>>> 
>>> It might be a good idea for you to enable the Face ID / Touch ID toggle, 
>>> located in the Settings area of the app.  
>>> 
>>> If you have not enabled either of these authentication features, on your 
>>> iOS device, before installing the app, then that could be the reason why 
>>> you are continually prompted to enter your Zoom login credentials.  
>>> 
>>> Mark
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>>> for about the past week if I'm using Zoom on my iPhone it wants me to sign 
>>> in every time. is there a box I can check somewhere that'll keep me signed 
>>> in? there are people who send me messages on there and you have to be 
>>> signed in for that.
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Re: Messenger app on IPhone

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I'm running the last iteration of IOS 12 but usually when I swipe up on a 
message I find "delete." 

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> Can anyone give me some basic tips on how to use the messenger app on IPhone 
> with IOS 13.4.1 I want to delete messages. 
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Safari on a Mac

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is there a keystroke I can use to close the address bar in Safari after I have 
opened it? 

thanks.
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Re: browsing the web

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I'm running Mojave but I can give you a few pointers. for some reason tabbing 
doesn't work as wellin Safari as it does in windows. one of the best ways to 
move around is vo-right arrow. you get the most detail that way. I use quicknav 
a lot to find links, headings and buttons or form controls.

sometimes when you arrive on to a web page you have to stop interacting with 
the toolbar. then when you hear "web content" interact with that. if I don't 
know anything about the web page I'll press vo-a to have it start reading. if 
you've gone to a blog post or an article pressing command-shift-r will say 
"show reader" and then you can usually read the text without having to try to 
navigate to it.

contact me off list if you want more help. I know this is just a quick overview 
and doesn't give very much detail.

Lorie

> On Apr 22, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:
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> How do you browse the web on a mac? what kinda commands do I use? I can get 
> on safari but I am not really able to use the web successfuly, I am a 
> relatively new mac user 
> thanks
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Re: zoom app

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you might try doing a search for "zoom cloud meetings" and seeing if it directs 
you. I got mind from joining a webinar that used Zoom. it asked to install Zoom 
before I could begin and it knew exactly which one to download for my Mac.

> On Apr 22, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:
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> where can i get the zoom app for my mac?
> how do I download it?
> do I need to go to a third party site to do it?
> and if so how do I go about installing it?
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purchasing from the iTunes store

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I was on an audio drama website and wanted to buy a story. Audible only offered 
it if I would start a membership trial which I don't want to do so I went to 
Apple books. it came up in iTunes for some reason in the British store (I'm in 
the US) and it was going ok until I signed in to make my purchase. then it said 
I was being sent to the US store. whereupon I landed in Apple m;usic. I don't 
know where my item went or even if I actually purchased it or not. if I did, 
where would it have gone? I'm still running Mojave.

thanks.
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Re: a good recording app?

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is it possible to use vlc to record?

> On Apr 23, 2020, at 2:14 AM, Salvador Domenech Miguel 
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> Hello,
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> Audio Hijack Pro may help you. But I use to use Amadeus Pro, because it’s the 
> application that I use for producing my podcasts, so it’s also de application 
> that I use for recording things.
> 
> Maybe you can test with the voice memos application, which is on the Mac 
> since the macOS Catalina publication.
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>> El 23 abr 2020, a las 0:26, Shirley Healy > > escribió:
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>> hi
>> has anyone got recommendations for a good app to use for recording stuff 
>> with vo and I am using catalina also?
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Re: Catalina -- What are Caveats and Trade-Offs?

[Lorie McCloud]

I've been dragging muy feet too. I'm thinking I'm going to wait till next fall.

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 11:21 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> I’m still ignoring the upgrade notice to get Catalina over my Mojave OSX. Can 
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> I may take the plunge since there’s a bit of downtime around here.
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Re: Zoom on Ipad Mini.

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I use Zoom on an iPad mini too and here's the way I do it. if there's an 
invitation by email first I open Zoom and tap "join". then I go into my email 
and tap the link they've sent. it opens in Safari but then it asks you if you 
want to open in Zoom. tap on that and you're in.

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> If the meeting id is wrong then you have the wrong meeting id.
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> If you have an invite to the meeting and it's in the form of a URL
> Then what you do is copy and paste that url in to the zoom meeting id field 
> and what you get is the meeting id 
> A number of approx. 9 or 10 digits.
> This is the best way to get the correct id number.
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> Then on the meeting id / number you hit enter and the joining should / will 
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> Hi!
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> Is this because no one else has joined the meeting?
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in app purchases

[Lorie McCloud]

what does 
"in app purchases"
mean? I usually see "free with in app purchases" and have no idea what they're 
talking about.

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Re: in app purchases

[Lorie McCloud]

ok. thanks. that clears it  up. 

> On May 1, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
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> That means the App itself is free but there are areas or functions in the app 
> that you need to pay for. For example if it is a game you can play to a 
> certain level and then you need to pay to keep playing it, or you can buy 
> different games within the app if it has more then one game available.  Or it 
> can be a news App where you can get free content and then you need to pay for 
> more interesting stories. And you purchase these things from within the app. 
> So if you buy a book in the Apple Books app that is an IN App purchase, even 
> though the app is free. 
> 
>> On 2/05/2020, at 08:30, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> what does 
>> "in app purchases"
>> mean? I usually see "free with in app purchases" and have no idea what 
>> they're talking about.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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the new iPhone SE

[Lorie McCloud]

is the new SE going to be small like the first one was or regular size? my 
other question about it is, does it have the option of using fingerprint 
instead of facial recognition?

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Re: in app purchases

[Lorie McCloud]

yes thanks. now I understand. a lot of apps are like that.

> On May 2, 2020, at 12:07 AM, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:
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> Hi Lorie,
> 
> In App Purchase means that some features of a particular application requires 
> one to purchase them.
> Only limited features are accessible. It's like some advance features will 
> only work once you'll purchase them.
> Though you can use the application with limited functionality.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Pramit  
> 
> On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 2:00 AM Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> what does 
> "in app purchases"
> mean? I usually see "free with in app purchases" and have no idea what 
> they're talking about.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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VLC media player

[Lorie McCloud]

my VLC is giving me a message under errors and warnings. it wants me to go into 
system prefs and give it permission to access files and folders. I go to 
Security and Privacy and the only thing I can find that seems related is full 
disc access. there are no apps in the table and I don't know how to add one. 
can somebody please coach me a little bit?

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Re: the new iPhone SE

[Lorie McCloud]

I have an iPhone 8 that isn't quite paid for yet. if I was in the market for a 
new phone though, I'd be really interested in it. 

> On May 2, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> It is almost the same size as my iPhone 7. Most commentators compare it to 
> the iPhone 8, but it has a single lens camera in the back, so the bump is not 
> as noticeable. Yes, it has a finger print sensor. However, it has much better 
> battery life than my 2 year old iPhone 7, and doing a read all at 80% speech 
> rate is smoother. In general I like it and think it is a good value for 
> anybody that doesn't want the fancy cameras. It also has WiFI 6 which was 
> just standardized this year though of course it does not have 5G technology.
> If you have a iPhone 7 or older, you should appreciate the improvements.
> Jonathan
> 
> 
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>> On May 1, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> is the new SE going to be small like the first one was or regular size? my 
>> other question about it is, does it have the option of using fingerprint 
>> instead of facial recognition?
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>> thanks.
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Re: VLC media player

[Lorie McCloud]

I guess I don't know how to navigate System prefs very well. the only thing I 
seem to be able to find in General is appearance.

> On May 2, 2020, at 4:43 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Under the general tab,
> And right at the bottom you may have to unlock the settings and click allow.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2020 7:42 PM
> To: 'Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries 
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> my VLC is giving me a message under errors and warnings. it wants me to go 
> into system prefs and give it permission to access files and folders. I go to 
> Security and Privacy and the only thing I can find that seems related is full 
> disc access. there are no apps in the table and I don't know how to add one. 
> can somebody please coach me a little bit?
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Re: the new iPhone SE

[Lorie McCloud]

wow! I didn't know that. the SE is cheaper than the 8. I have owned my 8 for 
more than a year. does the SE have a home button?

> On May 2, 2020, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> If you have owned your iPhone 8 for more than a year, you might want to check 
> the upgrade options. My carrier allowed upgrades with their lease plans after 
> a year. 
> Take Care!
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
> On Sat, 2 May 2020 at 15:35, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I have an iPhone 8 that isn't quite paid for yet. if I was in the market for 
> a new phone though, I'd be really interested in it. 
> 
>> On May 2, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> It is almost the same size as my iPhone 7. Most commentators compare it to 
>> the iPhone 8, but it has a single lens camera in the back, so the bump is 
>> not as noticeable. Yes, it has a finger print sensor. However, it has much 
>> better battery life than my 2 year old iPhone 7, and doing a read all at 80% 
>> speech rate is smoother. In general I like it and think it is a good value 
>> for anybody that doesn't want the fancy cameras. It also has WiFI 6 which 
>> was just standardized this year though of course it does not have 5G 
>> technology.
>> If you have a iPhone 7 or older, you should appreciate the improvements.
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Lorie McCloud >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> is the new SE going to be small like the first one was or regular size? my 
>>> other question about it is, does it have the option of using fingerprint 
>>> instead of facial recognition?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: VLC media player

[Lorie McCloud]

I'm still running Mojave. my vlc says it wants access but it works without it. 
it just complains.

> On May 2, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Just below Full Disk Access in the Security and Privacy settings is Files and 
> Folders (at least on Catalina). Once you are in that list, you should be able 
> to find the VLC application. When I was scanning Google results for you, 
> there was mention that some versions of VLC require Accessibility access in 
> order to work. I hope this is not the case, because then VLC could 
> effectively control just about anything on your system.
>   
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 2, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I guess I don't know how to navigate System prefs very well. the only thing 
>> I seem to be able to find in General is appearance.
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2020, at 4:43 AM, Simon A Fogarty >> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
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>>> Under the general tab,
>>> And right at the bottom you may have to unlock the settings and click allow.
>>> 
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>>> To: 'Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Subject: VLC media player
>>> 
>>> my VLC is giving me a message under errors and warnings. it wants me to go 
>>> into system prefs and give it permission to access files and folders. I go 
>>> to Security and Privacy and the only thing I can find that seems related is 
>>> full disc access. there are no apps in the table and I don't know how to 
>>> add one. can somebody please coach me a little bit?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
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Re: Google drive with Catalina?

[Lorie McCloud]

can you tell me how to do this for VLC in Mojave?

thanks.
Lorie

> On May 4, 2020, at 4:44 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> Try going into System Preferences, Security & Privacy, and to the Privacy 
> tab.  Select Accessibility from the table then make sure that Google Drive is 
> in the next table of allowed apps/services.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 3:24 PM, KliphnShari Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Ok, trying to install google drive on my new MacMini running Catalina.  It 
>>> gets almost to the end, then says a file can’t be verified or is broken.  
>>> Has anyone else had this issue, if so how did you fix it?
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archive utility on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

is it possible or advisable to select multiple files and then have the archive 
utility unzip them all at once or is it best to do them individually? would 
another app be better at that such as unzip unarchiver?

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passwords in internet accounts

[Lorie McCloud]

every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this time 
when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page that was 
asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. how do I 
find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet accounts and 
gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google are checked but 
I can't find passwords. please help.

thanks.
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

[Lorie McCloud]

ok. well, I'm still running Mojave guess I'll have to diddle around with it 
some more.

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> On May 22, 2020, at 1:52 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is a security thing.  The convoluted way that Google and Apple integrate 
> their ecosystems into each other sometimes causes this to rear its ungly 
> head.  I haven’t seen it in Catalina, but it was ever-present in Mojave.  
> Occasionally, just following the process got rid of the password requests, 
> but sometimes you end up having to sign out of Google in Internet accounts, 
> then log back in making sure to allow access, enter passwords etc wherever 
> and whenever they’re asked for during the process.  Sometimes, that doesn’t 
> work either.  There’s references to it on the web with possible 
> work-throughs, but for the most part, it was just a pain in the behind that 
> you had to suffer with.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.
> 
> You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords button 
> in the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the list.  
> If not, you may be able to add it to the list.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this 
> time when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page 
> that was asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. 
> how do I find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet 
> accounts and gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google 
> are checked but I can't find passwords. please help.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

[Lorie McCloud]

I was trying to download my gmail on my Mac. I finally got them connected again.

> On May 22, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps I misunderstood Lorie’s issue.  I thought she was attempting to 
> access her Gmail via the web portal using Safari.
> I’ve never needed to repeatedly sign into my Google account through Internet 
> Accounts in System Preferences on any of my Macs.
> I guess I’ve been lucky in this regard.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 13:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is a security thing.  The convoluted way that Google and Apple integrate 
> their ecosystems into each other sometimes causes this to rear its ungly 
> head.  I haven’t seen it in Catalina, but it was ever-present in Mojave.  
> Occasionally, just following the process got rid of the password requests, 
> but sometimes you end up having to sign out of Google in Internet accounts, 
> then log back in making sure to allow access, enter passwords etc wherever 
> and whenever they’re asked for during the process.  Sometimes, that doesn’t 
> work either.  There’s references to it on the web with possible 
> work-throughs, but for the most part, it was just a pain in the behind that 
> you had to suffer with.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.
> 
> You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords button 
> in the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the list.  
> If not, you may be able to add it to the list.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this 
> time when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page 
> that was asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. 
> how do I find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet 
> accounts and gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google 
> are checked but I can't find passwords. please help.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

[Lorie McCloud]

I checked that and my password was there. when my gmail was offline it was 
telling me to enter my google password in internet accounts. couldn't figure 
out how to do it.

> On May 22, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.
> 
> You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords button 
> in the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the list.  
> If not, you may be able to add it to the list.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this 
> time when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page 
> that was asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. 
> how do I find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet 
> accounts and gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google 
> are checked but I can't find passwords. please help.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

[Lorie McCloud]

can you tell me how to find these in system prefs/internet accounts in case 
this happens again?

> On May 22, 2020, at 3:26 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Glad you got it working.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 15:21, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I was trying to download my gmail on my Mac. I finally got them connected 
> again.
> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps I misunderstood Lorie’s issue.  I thought she was attempting to 
>> access her Gmail via the web portal using Safari.
>> I’ve never needed to repeatedly sign into my Google account through Internet 
>> Accounts in System Preferences on any of my Macs.
>> I guess I’ve been lucky in this regard.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 13:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> This is a security thing.  The convoluted way that Google and Apple 
>> integrate their ecosystems into each other sometimes causes this to rear its 
>> ungly head.  I haven’t seen it in Catalina, but it was ever-present in 
>> Mojave.  Occasionally, just following the process got rid of the password 
>> requests, but sometimes you end up having to sign out of Google in Internet 
>> accounts, then log back in making sure to allow access, enter passwords etc 
>> wherever and whenever they’re asked for during the process.  Sometimes, that 
>> doesn’t work either.  There’s references to it on the web with possible 
>> work-throughs, but for the most part, it was just a pain in the behind that 
>> you had to suffer with.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.
>> 
>> You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords button 
>> in the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the list.  
>> If not, you may be able to add it to the list.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this 
>> time when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page 
>> that was asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. 
>> how do I find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet 
>> accounts and gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google 
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Re: passwords in internet accounts

[Lorie McCloud]

I had some more trouble with this today. opened mail on my Mac and it was off 
line. but I found a place in the menu in mailboxes where it said "take all 
accounts online" and that did the trick.

> On May 23, 2020, at 10:13 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As Brad mentioned, Internet Accounts does not have a repository for 
> passwords.  Your Keychain is where these are stored, and I really don’t 
> suggest that you attempt messing around with the keychain.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> I don’t find that the password for a Google account is stored anywhere in 
> Internet Accounts.
> I have a Outlook.com <http://outlook.com/> email account, and I find my 
> password is saved in the Outlook account settings.  This is not the case for 
> either my Google account or my AT&T/Yahoo account.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 16:30, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> can you tell me how to find these in system prefs/internet accounts in case 
> this happens again?
> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 3:26 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Glad you got it working.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 15:21, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I was trying to download my gmail on my Mac. I finally got them connected 
>> again.
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perhaps I misunderstood Lorie’s issue.  I thought she was attempting to 
>>> access her Gmail via the web portal using Safari.
>>> I’ve never needed to repeatedly sign into my Google account through 
>>> Internet Accounts in System Preferences on any of my Macs.
>>> I guess I’ve been lucky in this regard.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 13:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> This is a security thing.  The convoluted way that Google and Apple 
>>> integrate their ecosystems into each other sometimes causes this to rear 
>>> its ungly head.  I haven’t seen it in Catalina, but it was ever-present in 
>>> Mojave.  Occasionally, just following the process got rid of the password 
>>> requests, but sometimes you end up having to sign out of Google in Internet 
>>> accounts, then log back in making sure to allow access, enter passwords etc 
>>> wherever and whenever they’re asked for during the process.  Sometimes, 
>>> that doesn’t work either.  There’s references to it on the web with 
>>> possible work-throughs, but for the most part, it was just a pain in the 
>>> behind that you had to suffer with.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds like this is a Safari issue and not an issue with Internet Accounts.
>>> 
>>> You may want to go into Safari preferences, then select the Passwords 
>>> button in the toolbar and see if your Google password has been saved in the 
>>> list.  If not, you may be able to add it to the list.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 13:22, Lorie McCloud >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> every so often my Mac wants my Google password for my gmail account. this 
>>> time when I signed into Google it said Safari couldn't open the Mac OS page 
>>> that was asking for the password. I want to go back in there and try again. 
>>> how do I find passwords in internet accounts? I go to system prefs internet 
>>> accounts and gmail. it has my name email address and which things in Google 
>>> are checked but I can't find passwords. please help.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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How can I find out how much data I used for say, the month of July both wifi 
and ethernet?

thanks.
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scanning a bar coddee

[Lorie McCloud]

what's the  best way to scan a bar code with an iPhone? do you do it with the 
camera or is another app better?

i'm at my mother's house trying to get on a hotspot.

thanks.
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Re: scanning a bar coddee

[Lorie McCloud]

where's the scanner? do I open Camera or do I go somewhere else?

Sent from my iPhone

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Hi,

The scanner should do it if it is a QR code.  Otherwise, if you have it turned 
on, you can open the Control Centre, and use the Code Scanner.

Later…


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> On Aug 20, 2021, at 2:00 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> what's the  best way to scan a bar code with an iPhone? do you do it with the 
> camera or is another app better?
> 
> i'm at my mother's house trying to get on a hotspot.
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> thanks.
> Lorie,;
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Re: scanning a bar coddee

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I added it. now what do I do when I want to use it?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 20, 2021, at 3:05 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

You can add Code Scanner to the Control Center.


- Brad -


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what's the  best way to scan a bar code with an iPhone? do you do it with the 
camera or is another app better?

i'm at my mother's house trying to get on a hotspot.

thanks.
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Re: scanning a bar coddee

[Lorie McCloud]

it probably seems like a stupid qestion but I've never used the code scanner 
before and didn't know if it was a function of the camera or its own thing.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 20, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Well, I would go to the Control Center and select and double tap on the item 
that says Code Scanner.


- Brad -


On Aug 20, 2021, at 16:12, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I added it. now what do I do when I want to use it?

Sent from my iPhone

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You can add Code Scanner to the Control Center.


- Brad -


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what's the  best way to scan a bar code with an iPhone? do you do it with the 
camera or is another app better?

i'm at my mother's house trying to get on a hotspot.

thanks.
Lorie,;
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Re: scanning a bar coddee

[Lorie McCloud]

thanks for this perspective. I thought I remember See Ai to have a bar code 
scanner. will try that.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 20, 2021, at 7:44 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

I just tried the code scanner app and I can’t get it to do anything. The only 
actionable items on the screen are “find a barcode to scan “and “flashlight 
quote. Tapping on the first doesn’t seem to do anything. Only two items on the 
screen and nothing happens with them. On the other hand, the barcode reader 
that comes as part of the seeing AI app has always worked pretty well for me.

Sent from my IPhone


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> I think it is a function of the camera, but you need to activate it from the 
> Control Center item.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Aug 20, 2021, at 16:31, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> it probably seems like a stupid qestion but I've never used the code scanner 
> before and didn't know if it was a function of the camera or its own thing.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 20, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Well, I would go to the Control Center and select and double tap on the item 
> that says Code Scanner.
> 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Aug 20, 2021, at 16:12, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I added it. now what do I do when I want to use it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 20, 2021, at 3:05 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> You can add Code Scanner to the Control Center.
> 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Aug 20, 2021, at 15:00, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> what's the  best way to scan a bar code with an iPhone? do you do it with the 
> camera or is another app better?
> 
> i'm at my mother's house trying to get on a hotspot.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie,;
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[Lorie McCloud]

Is there any way to turn off Safari's ability to create strong passwords? I 
prefer to create my own and last time it did that it screwed up my keychain.

thanks.
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Re: Safari

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my problem was that I was using my iPhone when it happened.

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On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:00 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

When Safari suggest that it can create a strong password, just press escape 
and it will go away. Then you can create your own password as desired.

- Brad -

On Sep 9, 2021, at 23:13, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

Is there any way to turn off Safari's ability to create strong passwords? I 
prefer to create my own and last time it did that it screwed up my keychain.

thanks.
Lorie

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attachments in Apple Mail

[Lorie McCloud]

I want to open an attachment that's in a message in Apple Mail. it's a pdf. I 
can locate it using vo-command-j which finds form controls. vo reads its title 
to me but I can't interact with it or open it. is there a way to open 
attachments such as that in the message or do I have to save it somewhere else?

thanks.
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Re: attachments in Apple Mail

[Lorie McCloud]

could you be a little more specific? I know about quick nav. are you saying you 
turn it to links and then what? click on it or open it with the up and down 
arrow keys?

> On Sep 17, 2021, at 5:13 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
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> Lori, I use the quick navigation keys, like you're going to press a link. And 
> that normally brings up a menu to where you can open or save. It will 
> normally open up in Preview. And sometimes text edit.
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2021, at 5:08 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> I want to open an attachment that's in a message in Apple Mail. it's a pdf. 
>> I can locate it using vo-command-j which finds form controls. vo reads its 
>> title to me but I can't interact with it or open it. is there a way to open 
>> attachments such as that in the message or do I have to save it somewhere 
>> else?
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>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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dropbox

[Lorie McCloud]

has anybody here ever created a file request on the dropbox website using their 
Mac? I'm having a lot of trouble trying to do it so any suggestions would be 
very helpful.

thanks.
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Re: dropbox

[Lorie McCloud]

I'm following the instructions in Judy Dixon's book about dropbox. I just can't 
locate the stuff she says is there. sometimes when she says: "Press Enter," 
that has to be replaced by vo-space on a Mac but even with that I just can't 
get it to work. I wish there were some way of doing it from my computer. 
dropbox is very straightforward in that way.

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> I have not used that feature. What kind of trouble are you having? That site 
> can be tricky in general.
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 15:11, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> has anybody here ever created a file request on the dropbox website using 
>> their Mac? I'm having a lot of trouble trying to do it so any suggestions 
>> would be very helpful.
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>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: dropbox

[Lorie McCloud]

I think the only way to do it is to use the website. that's why I'm having 
trouble. 

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 6:02 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> Confused? Thought you were since you mentioned the site. I looked at the file 
> request and it looks straight forward. This was using the website though.
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 17:39, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> I'm following the instructions in Judy Dixon's book about dropbox. I just 
>> can't locate the stuff she says is there. sometimes when she says: "Press 
>> Enter," that has to be replaced by vo-space on a Mac but even with that I 
>> just can't get it to work. I wish there were some way of doing it from my 
>> computer. dropbox is very straightforward in that way.
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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>>> I have not used that feature. What kind of trouble are you having? That 
>>> site can be tricky in general.
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 15:11, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>>>> has anybody here ever created a file request on the dropbox website using 
>>>> their Mac? I'm having a lot of trouble trying to do it so any suggestions 
>>>> would be very helpful.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
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Re: Viewing attachments and names of attachments in the inbox

[Lorie McCloud]

I have trouble with this too. I'm informed if an email has an attachment if I 
listen to all the info before I open the message. the attachments are hard to 
find once I've opened the message.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2021, at 3:40 AM, Michael Busboom  wrote:

Hi.

I frequently receive emails with attachments, but I have not been able to 
determine whether an email has an attachment or not. Is there a way to make the 
Apple Mail program let one know that the message currently in focus has an 
attachment?

A blind friend told me that if an email has an attachment, this will be placed 
at the end of the message itself. However, I did not find this to be the case 
for me.  

How can I get the Mail program to notify me that a message comes with an 
attachment?  The only thing I can do at present is to type command Y for the 
attachment preview.

Thanks in advance,

Mike 

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wi-fi calling

[Lorie McCloud]

I've been without the internet for a week and had to change providers. I'm 
going to change my cell service too. I'd like to know how wi-fi calling works 
in case I'm without cell service for a day or 2.

thanks.
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sim card

[Lorie McCloud]

has anybody here ever put a new sim card in their phone? I have no idea how to 
do this or even if it's possible for a blind person to do it.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: wi-fi calling

[Lorie McCloud]

where do you go to enable it?

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
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> You have to enable WiFi calling on your phone.
> Then, when you make a call it uses your WiFi signal unless you lose Wifi.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> I've been without the internet for a week and had to change providers. I'm 
> going to change my cell service too. I'd like to know how wi-fi calling works 
> in case I'm without cell service for a day or 2.
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> thanks.
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Re: sim card

[Lorie McCloud]

now a virtual sim card is somerhing I've never heard of. I don't think Spectrum 
has those but if mine doesn't come in the mail pretty soon I'll ask.

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
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> I always get sighted help, but I've heard that some companies let you have 
> virtual Sim Cards.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Sarah Massengale
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:20 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: sim card
> 
> Personally, I recommend getting sighted help for this.  There is a delicate 
> little drawer you have to pull out with a very thin tool, and it can be 
> really tricky.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> has anybody here ever put a new sim card in their phone? I have no idea how 
>> to do this or even if it's possible for a blind person to do it.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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wi-fi on an old iPad mini

[Lorie McCloud]

after my new network was set up today I tried toput my phone on it and I kept 
getting: "incorrect password." after double checking that I had the password 
written down right I tried again and got the same. I turned off vo and fixed 
the screen so the tech could see it and he got it on there. now I'm trying to 
get my iPad mini on there and it's doing the same thing my phone did. 
suggestionsplz.

thannks.
Lorie

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Re: sim card

[Lorie McCloud]

that's pretty cool. I just signed up with Spectrum.

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Not sure if you mentioned your original carrier, but I know for certain that 
> T-Mobile has an app in the app store that enables the Virtual SIM to use the 
> T-Mobile network as a demo. I read about this a few weeks back in tidbits. 
> <http://tidbits.com/>com's weekly newsletter. 
> 
> heading level 1 T-Mobile’s Network Test Drive Puts 5G on Your iPhone’s eSIM
> https://tidbits.com/2021/07/05/t-mobiles-network-test-drive-puts-5g-on-your-iphones-esim/
>  
> <https://tidbits.com/2021/07/05/t-mobiles-network-test-drive-puts-5g-on-your-iphones-esim/>
> 
> Well, I guess it was from early July based on that URL. 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> now a virtual sim card is somerhing I've never heard of. I don't think 
>> Spectrum has those but if mine doesn't come in the mail pretty soon I'll ask.
>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I always get sighted help, but I've heard that some companies let you have 
>>> virtual Sim Cards.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of Sarah Massengale
>>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:20 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: sim card
>>> 
>>> Personally, I recommend getting sighted help for this.  There is a delicate 
>>> little drawer you have to pull out with a very thin tool, and it can be 
>>> really tricky.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> has anybody here ever put a new sim card in their phone? I have no idea 
>>>> how to do this or even if it's possible for a blind person to do it.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
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Re: sim card

[Lorie McCloud]

I don't think they do offer a virtual sim card. they're sending one to me. I 
got the same deal you did. couldn't pass it up.

> On Sep 28, 2021, at 6:40 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Does Spectrum offer a virtual Sim Card?
> I had to get a sim Card sent to me once I provided my eimi number or 
> something like that.
> I have Spectrum Internet so can get their phone plan for $14 a month.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 11:56 PM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: sim card
>  
> that's pretty cool. I just signed up with Spectrum.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Jonathan Cohn > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hello,
>> Not sure if you mentioned your original carrier, but I know for certain that 
>> T-Mobile has an app in the app store that enables the Virtual SIM to use the 
>> T-Mobile network as a demo. I read about this a few weeks back in tidbits. 
>> <http://tidbits.com/>com's weekly newsletter. 
>>  
>> heading level 1 T-Mobile’s Network Test Drive Puts 5G on Your iPhone’s eSIM
>> https://tidbits.com/2021/07/05/t-mobiles-network-test-drive-puts-5g-on-your-iphones-esim/
>>  
>> <https://tidbits.com/2021/07/05/t-mobiles-network-test-drive-puts-5g-on-your-iphones-esim/>
>>  
>> Well, I guess it was from early July based on that URL. 
>>  
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> now a virtual sim card is somerhing I've never heard of. I don't think 
>>> Spectrum has those but if mine doesn't come in the mail pretty soon I'll 
>>> ask.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Rebecca Skipper >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I always get sighted help, but I've heard that some companies let you have 
>>>> virtual Sim Cards.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sarah Massengale
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:20 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: sim card
>>>> 
>>>> Personally, I recommend getting sighted help for this.  There is a 
>>>> delicate little drawer you have to pull out with a very thin tool, and it 
>>>> can be really tricky.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Lorie McCloud >>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> has anybody here ever put a new sim card in their phone? I have no idea 
>>>>> how to do this or even if it's possible for a blind person to do it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
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Re: sim card

[Lorie McCloud]

they do have more expensive plans if you need more gig but if you're already 
using Spectrum you get unlimited talk and text plus 1 gig of data per month for 
$14. except for once a year, I rarely need any more than that.

> On Sep 28, 2021, at 2:21 PM,   wrote:
> 
> H, think the phone plan they are talking about for $14 a month is 
> probably the landline offering to use at home, unless I am missing something. 
> I think the Spectrum Mobile service is around $45 a month for the unlimited, 
> and maybe about $14 per gig used per month if you don’t want unlimited. So, 
> if one was going to use more than 3 gigs per month or so, the unlimited is 
> likely the better deal. I heard they do let you switch that any time, but it 
> is probably a pretty good deal using Verizon’s towers.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rebecca Skipper
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 6:40 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: sim card
>  
> Does Spectrum offer a virtual Sim Card?
> I had to get a sim Card sent to me once I provided my eimi number or 
> something like that.
> I have Spectrum Internet so can get their phone plan for $14 a month.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 11:56 PM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: sim card
>  
> that's pretty cool. I just signed up with Spectrum.
>  
> 
>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Jonathan Cohn > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hello,
>> Not sure if you mentioned your original carrier, but I know for certain that 
>> T-Mobile has an app in the app store that enables the Virtual SIM to use the 
>> T-Mobile network as a demo. I read about this a few weeks back in tidbits. 
>> <http://tidbits.com/>com's weekly newsletter. 
>>  
>> heading level 1 T-Mobile’s Network Test Drive Puts 5G on Your iPhone’s eSIM
>> https://tidbits.com/2021/07/05/t-mobiles-network-test-drive-puts-5g-on-your-iphones-esim/
>>  
>> <https://tidbits.com/2021/07/05/t-mobiles-network-test-drive-puts-5g-on-your-iphones-esim/>
>>  
>> Well, I guess it was from early July based on that URL. 
>>  
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 21:31, Lorie McCloud >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> now a virtual sim card is somerhing I've never heard of. I don't think 
>>> Spectrum has those but if mine doesn't come in the mail pretty soon I'll 
>>> ask.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Rebecca Skipper >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I always get sighted help, but I've heard that some companies let you have 
>>>> virtual Sim Cards.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sarah Massengale
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:20 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: sim card
>>>> 
>>>> Personally, I recommend getting sighted help for this.  There is a 
>>>> delicate little drawer you have to pull out with a very thin tool, and it 
>>>> can be really tricky.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Lorie McCloud >>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> has anybody here ever put a new sim card in their phone? I have no idea 
>>>>> how to do this or even if it's possible for a blind person to do it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
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Apple mail

[Lorie McCloud]

on my Mac running Catalina I sometimes get emals that vo won't read when Iopen 
them. it just says: "mark as vip--read." if I arrow around it looks like it 
might not even be in the body of the email. what's happening there? these are 
almost always from a bulk mialout. 

thanks.
Lorie

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dropbox notifications

[Lorie McCloud]

how can I access notifications that come from droopbox? sometimes I'll hear one 
but I'm in another room or something and don't hear what it says. if I press 
vo-n vo says no notifications are available. how do I find them?

thanks.
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Safari on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

Where do I find my passwords in Safari?

thanks.
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Re: Safari on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

how do you read them? I unlocked my passwords but all I can read for the 
account I want is a bunch of bullets.

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 9:53 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Go to Safari preferences, and select the Passwords tab.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Oct 12, 2021, at 21:43, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Where do I find my passwords in Safari?
> 
> thanks.
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Re: Safari on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

I did unlock it and I can read the username but not the password for the 
account I want or any of them really.

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 9:52 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you mean Safari saved passwords, then go to the Safari menu that is beside 
> the Apple menu, go down to Preferences, interact with the Toolbar and 
> VO-space on the Passwords tab.  You should be asked for either an 
> Administrator password, or your finger-print if your Mac supports it, to 
> unlock this pane.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> 
>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 8:43 PM, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Where do I find my passwords in Safari?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Safari on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

can you read them on your Mac? I guess I could try getting to them on my phone.

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:33 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> I read them on my iPhone by going to
> Settings > Passwords.
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> - Brad -
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> On Oct 12, 2021, at 22:25, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> how do you read them? I unlocked my passwords but all I can read for the 
> account I want is a bunch of bullets.
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 9:53 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
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>> Go to Safari preferences, and select the Passwords tab.
>> 
>> - Brad -
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>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 21:43, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Where do I find my passwords in Safari?
>> 
>> thanks.
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Re: Safari on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

I'm using Catalina still.

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 11:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> Tab to the edit button, hit VO space and then you can read it normally. This 
> is assuming you’re using Big Sur though. If using Monterey, then they’ve made 
> some change that I don’t know about.
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 22:26, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I did unlock it and I can read the username but not the password for the 
>> account I want or any of them really.
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 9:52 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> If you mean Safari saved passwords, then go to the Safari menu that is 
>>> beside the Apple menu, go down to Preferences, interact with the Toolbar 
>>> and VO-space on the Passwords tab.  You should be asked for either an 
>>> Administrator password, or your finger-print if your Mac supports it, to 
>>> unlock this pane.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
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>>>> On Oct 12, 2021, at 8:43 PM, Lorie McCloud >>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>>> Where do I find my passwords in Safari?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
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updating to Monterey

[Lorie McCloud]

I think it's probably too soon to update but I'd like to know what those of you 
who did it think of Monterey. I'm still running Catalina. I have a late 2014 
Mac mini still running very well. I'm not inclined to install Big Sur. I never 
heard anything I liked about it. Catalina is fine except for podcasts and I 
don't know if anything's been done about that in Monterey or not. opinions 
please.

Thanks.
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Re: YouTube Command to Play ?

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it's just the letter k. it's a toggle between play and pause.

> On Oct 28, 2021, at 7:57 PM, Fazil  wrote:
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> Hi, Group.
> Voiceover mentions a keyboard command to play a youtube video which I can not 
> catch. May I know what is that, please?
> I think it says something like plus-k but I’m not sure, could someone remind 
> me, please?
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buying digital music

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I still mostly buy my music. I like to have it in my computer and put it 
wherever else I want it. I looked up an album I want on Amazon and I just can't 
figure out that system any more. it's got so much clutter the only thing I 
can't find in there is what I'm looking for. it's just amazing how convoluted 
it has become. is there anything that can be done to make it more manageable on 
a Mac?

so then I looked up this album on iTunes using my phone. I found it pretty 
quickly and could read all the song titles but I don't know how to buy it. I 
couldn't find a "buy" button or anything of that sort. could this be done on my 
Mac? is it easier now that osx has separated music from movies podcasts and 
books?

thanks.
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Re: buying digital music

[Lorie McCloud]

can you buy digital music using the Amazon app? I use that app almost 
exclusively for buying physical stuff.

> On Oct 31, 2021, at 8:11 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> When using iTunes on your phone, select and do a one finger double tap on the 
> price. That is the buy button.
> 
> As for Amazon, try using the Amazon app for iOS on your phone. It's a lot 
> less complicated than using the website.
> 
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> On Oct 31, 2021, at 19:21, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I still mostly buy my music. I like to have it in my computer and put it 
> wherever else I want it. I looked up an album I want on Amazon and I just 
> can't figure out that system any more. it's got so much clutter the only 
> thing I can't find in there is what I'm looking for. it's just amazing how 
> convoluted it has become. is there anything that can be done to make it more 
> manageable on a Mac?
> 
> so then I looked up this album on iTunes using my phone. I found it pretty 
> quickly and could read all the song titles but I don't know how to buy it. I 
> couldn't find a "buy" button or anything of that sort. could this be done on 
> my Mac? is it easier now that osx has separated music from movies podcasts 
> and books?
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> thanks.
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Re: buying digital music

[Lorie McCloud]

I'm not sure how to get into the iTunes store on my Mac. is it on the dock or 
can I access it through system prefs? or is there some other way?

thanks.
Lorie

> On Nov 1, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> It is easy to purchase music on the Mac. Once you open the app, go to your 
> side bar and at the top is the search field. Type in what you want and hit 
> enter. Uninteract and do a VO right aero. Go passed the results window until 
> you get to a series of radio buttons. Select the iTunes store and VO left to 
> the results  window, interact, and you’re good. You click on the  price of 
> the the way you would on the phone. It will download the purchases into your 
> iTunes media folder under Music. I can’t compare it to how things used to be 
> with the iTunes app, but I find the process easy to do.
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>> On Oct 31, 2021, at 19:21, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I still mostly buy my music. I like to have it in my computer and put it 
>> wherever else I want it. I looked up an album I want on Amazon and I just 
>> can't figure out that system any more. it's got so much clutter the only 
>> thing I can't find in there is what I'm looking for. it's just amazing how 
>> convoluted it has become. is there anything that can be done to make it more 
>> manageable on a Mac?
>> 
>> so then I looked up this album on iTunes using my phone. I found it pretty 
>> quickly and could read all the song titles but I don't know how to buy it. I 
>> couldn't find a "buy" button or anything of that sort. could this be done on 
>> my Mac? is it easier now that osx has separated music from movies podcasts 
>> and books?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: downloading music from amazon on mac

[Lorie McCloud]

I can't even purchase it. I was trying just the other day. imo they've really 
screwed their digital music section. I was trying to access something using my 
Mac Mini and it's just too convoluted up there now. I have a phone number for 
mp3 support. don't know if it still works or not but here it is.
888. 802-3083.

> On Nov 4, 2021, at 3:42 PM, Patrick Ford  wrote:
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> Hi,
> Using a mac book air with mmonterey -I cannot manage to download purchased 
> music from amazon any longer. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks.
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Re: downloading music from amazon on mac

[Lorie McCloud]

yeah. I completely agree. downloads used to be easy on Amazon music and now, as 
I said I can't even purchase music.

> On Nov 4, 2021, at 5:19 PM, Patrick Ford  wrote:
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> oh great  thank you - I have my friend Vicki working on it - she uses windows 
>  and is blind too but she has no problem with the downloads -it used to be 
> easy - now something has changed for the worse -thanks for helping 
> Come and See
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>> On Nov 4, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> I can't even purchase it. I was trying just the other day. imo they've 
>> really screwed their digital music section. I was trying to access something 
>> using my Mac Mini and it's just too convoluted up there now. I have a phone 
>> number for mp3 support. don't know if it still works or not but here it is.
>> 888. 802-3083.
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2021, at 3:42 PM, Patrick Ford  wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> Using a mac book air with mmonterey -I cannot manage to download purchased 
>>> music from amazon any longer. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks.
>>> Patrick 
>>> 
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buying and downloading Amazon music on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

I was finally able to find the album I was looking for on Amazon. I typed in 
the title of the album instead of the artist. so after I bought it I ran into 
the download problem. there ussed to be a download link on the order details 
page. it's not there any more. I called the number for mp3 help that I gave out 
here earlier and it doesn't work any more. so then I called the disability 
number. the CS rep. tried to walk me through the process but she eventually 
transferred me to somebody she called an expert who had no understanding of 
screen readers. here's my current understanding of the situation. now we're 
supposed to download from the cloudplayer. I went up there, clicked on 
"library" but it's exceedingly inaccessible up there. I could never get to 
"Purchases" at all. it's supposed to be there but I never could find it. she 
sent me an email so I could send feedback to the developers.

Lorie

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