Re: mail issue
try VO shift backslash to sort them in the opposite order? On 2009-10-13, at 11:58 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: > > Hi, all, > I am having an issue with mail. > For some weird reason, my mail messages are not being sorted properly. > The date received is going all over the place when I read emails. > I've tried everything you can think of, all of which is in the view > menu. > Any thoughts? > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: USB drive not showing up
I think this is a bug in sl. mine does the same thing. I find the easiest way to get to it if it doesn't show up is to open up a new finder window and go to the sidebar and look under devices. you'll see it there and can then access it. On 2009-10-14, at 7:53 AM, Rafael Bejarano wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm hoping someone on this list can cast light on a problem that I'm > having with my USB drive. It often fails to show up on the desk top > when I start my Mac. I have to restart the machine, or to turn it off > and on again, before the USB drive shows up. Any suggestions as to > how to fix this problem would be greatly appreciated. > > Cordially, > Rafael Bejarano > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: USB drive not showing up
/volumes? just cuz I'm curious and like to absorb as much info as I can about the mac and VO, how do you get there? On 2009-10-14, at 10:44 AM, Rafael Bejarano wrote: > > I'll try that. Thanks. > > Rafael > On Oct 14, 2009, at 12:22 PM, louie wrote: > >> >> Check /volumes. I had the same trouble and the external usb drive >> showed up in /volumes. >> >> On Oct 14, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Rafael Bejarano wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm hoping someone on this list can cast light on a problem that I'm >>> having with my USB drive. It often fails to show up on the desk top >>> when I start my Mac. I have to restart the machine, or to turn it >>> off >>> and on again, before the USB drive shows up. Any suggestions as to >>> how to fix this problem would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Cordially, >>> Rafael Bejarano >>> >> >> louie >> louiem...@wavecable.com >> >> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: USB drive not showing up
oh, weird!! I dunno then! I could see my drive from the desktop fine when I was using leopard. it's only since upgrading to snow leopard that it's been a bit flaky. still, try a new finder window, or / volumes, I'm sure either one will give you access to it. On 2009-10-14, at 10:43 AM, Rafael Bejarano wrote: > > Thanks for your prompt reply. > > Actually, the problem occurs on computers using in Tiger and Leopard > (I don't have Snow Leopard yet). I will try your suggestion to open a > new finder window, however. Hopefully, that will work for me, too. > > Rafael > On Oct 14, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> >> I think this is a bug in sl. mine does the same thing. I find the >> easiest way to get to it if it doesn't show up is to open up a new >> finder window and go to the sidebar and look under devices. you'll >> see >> it there and can then access it. >> On 2009-10-14, at 7:53 AM, Rafael Bejarano wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm hoping someone on this list can cast light on a problem that I'm >>> having with my USB drive. It often fails to show up on the desk top >>> when I start my Mac. I have to restart the machine, or to turn it >>> off >>> and on again, before the USB drive shows up. Any suggestions as to >>> how to fix this problem would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Cordially, >>> Rafael Bejarano >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: USB drive not showing up
oh wow!! thanks, that's nifty!!! On 2009-10-14, at 11:12 AM, louie wrote: > > command + shift + g then type in /volumes. > > On Oct 14, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> >> /volumes? just cuz I'm curious and like to absorb as much info as I >> can about the mac and VO, how do you get there? >> On 2009-10-14, at 10:44 AM, Rafael Bejarano wrote: >> >>> >>> I'll try that. Thanks. >>> >>> Rafael >>> On Oct 14, 2009, at 12:22 PM, louie wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Check /volumes. I had the same trouble and the external usb drive >>>> showed up in /volumes. >>>> >>>> On Oct 14, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Rafael Bejarano wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I'm hoping someone on this list can cast light on a problem that >>>>> I'm >>>>> having with my USB drive. It often fails to show up on the desk >>>>> top >>>>> when I start my Mac. I have to restart the machine, or to turn it >>>>> off >>>>> and on again, before the USB drive shows up. Any suggestions as >>>>> to >>>>> how to fix this problem would be greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Cordially, >>>>> Rafael Bejarano >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> louie >>>> louiem...@wavecable.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > louie > louiem...@wavecable.com > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
reordering songs in iTunes?
hey guys so I have this awesome playlist of positive songs that I've been working on for the past forever or so, lol. I keep adding to it and it's quite amazing if I do say so myself, lol. but I wanna change the order of the songs. right now they're just in whatever order iTunes decides they should go in. is there a way to change it? I'd think going into the get info dialog and numbering them might work, but is there a faster way than that? maybe like command arrowing like you do to move things around the dock? thanks Jessi and Goldina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
updating facebook status from the full site?
hey guys back with another question. I use the mobile facebook site all the time but thought I'd check out the full site again since I haven't used it in awhile. it seems okay, a bit cluttered definitely but usable except there doesn't seem to be a way to update your status? there's no edit field. VO just says list, and you can't interact with it or anything. is it not possible to update your status from the main site? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: what happened to the contextual menu??
the command for contextual menu is VO shift m. On 2009-10-26, at 9:04 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > > Hi list, > > What happened to command shift m, which usually brings up contextual > menu wherever you mouse/vo cursor is? > > I don't understand this had to be changed. > > Thanks, and best > > > Yuma Decaux > > Light has no value without darkness > Skype: shainobi1 > twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 > Tel: +85513623378 > Yuma Antoine Decaux > jamy...@gmail.com > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: twitter clients and bible program for mac questions
hey, syrinx is the best twitter client. there's also twitteriffic, but syrinx has way more functionality and is better!!! not sure about the Bible program but I'd like to find one too!! On 2009-10-28, at 8:42 PM, David Geiger wrote: > > would like some help finding a good twitter client for mac osx 10.6 > sl desktop client that will work good with voice over and also was > hopeing somone could tell me if there is a bible program out for mac > that is voice over compatable thanks > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Abbyy FineReader works well
hey Anne, is there a list somewhere of scanners that work directly with finereader? or does anyone have suggestions for ones that do? I'm probably on the market for a new one anyway. would be really great if I could get one of those scanner/coppier/printer combos since my printer, as great as it is, isn't mac compatible. do those work with finereader? I guess it would depend on the brand. On 2009-11-10, at 11:44 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Dan, > > The problem with Abbyy FineReader is that it doesn't work with network > scanners. However, you can give it a file of images to OCR if your scanner > doesn't work directly with FineReader. > > I compared a document recognised by Readiris, and the same document recognise > with Finereader and Finereader did a slightly beter job in that there were > slightly fewer errors. Both did a good job but Finereader did a better job. > > FineReader is cheaper than Readiris and the installation and registration > process are both completely accessible with VoiceOver. > > Readiris 12 can be installed using VoiceOver, but you get no feed back at > times, which is why I posted directions on how to register Readiris 12 on > this list. > > I use VueScan to drive both of my scanners since they're both made by Cannon > and the drivers are not accessible with VO. VueScan uses the Scangear driver > in one case, making it accessible, and has its own driver for the scanner in > the other case. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Abbyy FineReader works well
my printer is one of the few hp printers that's not mac compatible. so I'm a little leary of buying another hp printer, but if I was absolutely sure it would work then I would. On 2009-11-10, at 1:51 PM, hank smith wrote: > > I heard the hp line of all in ones work well > - Original Message ----- > From: "Jessi and Goldina" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:23 PM > Subject: Re: Abbyy FineReader works well > > > > hey Anne, > is there a list somewhere of scanners that work directly with finereader? or > does anyone have suggestions for ones that do? I'm probably on the market > for a new one anyway. would be really great if I could get one of those > scanner/coppier/printer combos since my printer, as great as it is, isn't > mac compatible. do those work with finereader? I guess it would depend on > the brand. > On 2009-11-10, at 11:44 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> >> Hello Dan, >> >> The problem with Abbyy FineReader is that it doesn't work with network >> scanners. However, you can give it a file of images to OCR if your scanner >> doesn't work directly with FineReader. >> >> I compared a document recognised by Readiris, and the same document >> recognise with Finereader and Finereader did a slightly beter job in that >> there were slightly fewer errors. Both did a good job but Finereader did a >> better job. >> >> FineReader is cheaper than Readiris and the installation and registration >> process are both completely accessible with VoiceOver. >> >> Readiris 12 can be installed using VoiceOver, but you get no feed back at >> times, which is why I posted directions on how to register Readiris 12 on >> this list. >> >> I use VueScan to drive both of my scanners since they're both made by >> Cannon and the drivers are not accessible with VO. VueScan uses the >> Scangear driver in one case, making it accessible, and has its own driver >> for the scanner in the other case. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >>> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Abbyy FineReader works well
I sure do lol. I've scoured the internet for ways to make it work and the only way to do it is to do something weird with the firmware and then reinstall it everytime I wanna print. how about no! lol. I'd rather use my pc!!! On 2009-11-10, at 2:05 PM, hank smith wrote: > > thats odd > every one I owned was mac conpatible. > you must have one of the odd ball ones > - Original Message - > From: "Jessi and Goldina" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:01 PM > Subject: Re: Abbyy FineReader works well > > > > my printer is one of the few hp printers that's not mac compatible. so I'm a > little leary of buying another hp printer, but if I was absolutely sure it > would work then I would. > On 2009-11-10, at 1:51 PM, hank smith wrote: > >> >> I heard the hp line of all in ones work well >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jessi and Goldina" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:23 PM >> Subject: Re: Abbyy FineReader works well >> >> >> >> hey Anne, >> is there a list somewhere of scanners that work directly with finereader? >> or >> does anyone have suggestions for ones that do? I'm probably on the market >> for a new one anyway. would be really great if I could get one of those >> scanner/coppier/printer combos since my printer, as great as it is, isn't >> mac compatible. do those work with finereader? I guess it would depend on >> the brand. >> On 2009-11-10, at 11:44 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello Dan, >>> >>> The problem with Abbyy FineReader is that it doesn't work with network >>> scanners. However, you can give it a file of images to OCR if your >>> scanner >>> doesn't work directly with FineReader. >>> >>> I compared a document recognised by Readiris, and the same document >>> recognise with Finereader and Finereader did a slightly beter job in that >>> there were slightly fewer errors. Both did a good job but Finereader did >>> a >>> better job. >>> >>> FineReader is cheaper than Readiris and the installation and registration >>> process are both completely accessible with VoiceOver. >>> >>> Readiris 12 can be installed using VoiceOver, but you get no feed back at >>> times, which is why I posted directions on how to register Readiris 12 on >>> this list. >>> >>> I use VueScan to drive both of my scanners since they're both made by >>> Cannon and the drivers are not accessible with VO. VueScan uses the >>> Scangear driver in one case, making it accessible, and has its own driver >>> for the scanner in the other case. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bak on an Apple Again
enjoy your mac!! you'll love it!! and I completely agree. if there's a mainstream solution, people should use that. these note takers and screenreaders are okay if there's no other solution, but people already see blind people as bad different as it is and it seems to me like people don't take the time to understand what they don't know about. everyone knows about apple computers and computers in general, and I think the more sighted people see us using regular technology the better. I just love when I'm sitting somewhere in public with my mac and people ask me how I use it! On 2009-12-05, at 1:06 PM, Matt Roberts wrote: > I just got my Mac a couple of days ago. I have extensive computer knowledge, > starting on the old Apple II, and moved to MSDOS, not by choice, but out of > necessity. The switch to Windows took place, and with it the cost of the > screen readers came as well. Every time you changed operating systems, you > had to buy a new version of the screen reader. Once I had a problem with a > screen reader, and had to install a later version. I didn't have the stupid > authorization disk, so guess what I had to do? You guessed it, spend more > money. > I'm learning the Mac because I don't choose to give more money to assistive > technology manufacturers. I believe if a mainstream solution for access > exists, we should use that. Only go to the AT companies if no other solution > exists to complete a particular task. > > Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: finding files Itunes has wripped
hey Mary, the files are in whatever drive your library is on/your library name/itunes music. On 2010-01-04, at 4:02 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi folks, > I am in the process of putting a large cd collection onto itunes as mp3 > files. One of the things I'd like to do when I'm done is to selectively copy > some of these onto an sd card for use in a player that isn't Itunes > compatible, that is, its not an ipod or iphone. So to do that, I'm figuring I > will need to find where the files are stored on the Mac, and copy/paste them > from there to my sd card in a usb card reader. I haven't found a means of > exporting other than this, and I haven't even found where all this music is > bgeing stored. Can anybody offer a few hints on how best to accomplish this > task? Thanks in advance. > Mary > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible bit torrent client
I use tomato torrent and I'm very happy with it. On 2010-01-17, at 11:31 AM, Mike Pedersen wrote: > Hi all, have any of you found a bit torrent client that you are particularly > happy with? I've found the client directly from bit torrent not accessible. > > thanks much > > Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: vo driving me crazy.
hey Maurice, to fix it so VO doesn't give so many instructions 1. go to VO preferences with VO f8 2. interact with the categories table and navigate to verbosity. 3. stop interacting with the table and VO right arrow over until you see the "hints" tab. select that. 4. uncheck the box that says speak instructions for using the item in the voiceover cursor. 5. close preferences and you should be good. hth Jessi On 2010-01-21, at 8:58 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote: > Can anyone translate the message from Maurice ham call kd0iko into English? I > am very confused. > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Maurice Mines wrote: > hi whin I use vo after every key strok vo offers a stess mesage for every > thong how can I at lest tame this things setch as whin I am in a list due I > really ned to know that I am in a list and what the comand to move up and > down. please help me not luse my mind?? maurice ham call kd0iko. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > > -- > Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: good news for 10.6.3
ooh yes, this is good news!!! voiceover was mentioned!!! I wonder what's coming? ooh ooh it's exciting and better printer compatibility!! I hope my printer will finally be supported!!! I swear I own the only hp printer that is not mac compatible!!! On 2010-01-22, at 8:46 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/01/22/mac_os_x_10_6_3_to_enhance_quicktime_64_bit_logic_printing.html > > It points out apple asking for closer compatibility for voice over. A > standardization of accessibility on the mac 64 bit coco environment? > > Here's hoping > > Yuma > > > Yuma Decaux > > Light has no value without darkness > Skype: shainobi1 > blog: www.theblindsamurai.com > twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 > Tel: +85513623378 > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Adding Items to the Dock
hi David, just tried the command shift t that Linda suggested and it does in deed work!! thanks Linda! I didn't know that one, I always added things to the dock through the contextual menu! so glad there's a shortcut! awesome! On 2010-02-01, at 6:46 PM, David McLean wrote: > Hello, Ok I'm definitely showing my newbie status here but... > Is there a simple way to add items to the dock using VO? I've been poking > around and really haven't found any documentation on how to do this although > I'm sure it's somewhere. I also found a send to dock script on the web but > it looks like it's a couple of years old so I'm not sure it's required any > more. > Is it just a matter of copying and pasting somehow? > Thanks for any help. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iTunes lost all my stuff
hey Randi! holding down the option key when you launch iTunes will bring up the dialog about the library. that's how you switch from one library to the next. do that and find your library and you should be good to go! and that's how you can make more than one library! On 2010-02-08, at 6:35 AM, rayna424 wrote: > Hmmm. Well since you're saying the problem occured because I might > have held down the option key, I wonder if I launch iTunes and hold > the option key, if it will ask me about the library again. I might try > that when I get to where I can tackle this problem. All the other > options sound really daunting, so I'd rather find the easiest route. I > also thought about uninstalling iTunes and re-downloading it. I wonder > if that would do it. > > > > Scott Howell wrote: >> SOmeone had previously recommended you either direct iTunes to use the >> previous copy of the library or just copy the library from the previous >> iTunes library folder back into the top-level of the iTunes folder. Of >> course if you use Time Machine, you can always restore the previous library >> from there as well. >> If all that fails, you can always reimport all of your music and if it is >> all tagged properly, you should end up with the same library you had before >> the upgrade. One other suggestion, when launching any program, instead of >> pressing VO-spacebar on the item, use command-o. This avoids the potential >> for the option key being trapped by the program, which is probably what >> happen. >> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:52 PM, rayna424 wrote: >> >>> Ok, this is good stuff to look at tomorrow. Do you know if there's >>> anyway to restore iTunes to before the update? Then I can just make >>> sure that library thing doesn't happen. I wish I had known, or just >>> quit it. Sounds like fixing it will be hard. >>> >>> >>> Scott Howell wrote: All you have to do is simply quit iTUnes in most cases and just restart it. I find where the issue shows itself is when you accidentally hold the option key down while iTunes is loading. This allows you to select an alternate iTunes library. WHenever iTunes comes up and asks me for a library, I just quit and relaunch iTunes and all is well. On Feb 7, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > Hello. In the future, when ITunes asks you to choose a library, you > should browse to your music/itunes folder, then push the choose library > button or whatever it is called.. That's actually where the Itunes > library is. That's what I have to do a lot of times when software > updates come out. Unfortunately, since you didn't do that this time, I'm > not sure how to change it back. > > On Feb 7, 2010, at 6:12 PM, rayna424 wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I am restraining myself from calling Apple until tomorrow. I just did >> the latest iTunes software update, and when it was done, it asked me >> to pick a library. Huh? I think I just selected music. Well, all my >> stuff is gone. All of it. Gone. I'm freaking out and have shut down >> iTunes until I calm down and/or hopefully get some answers. If you >> have any ideas, please, please tell me. I have all my stuff on my >> iPods, but not on a hard back up. >> >> Thanks... >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Ryan Mann > email: rmann0...@gmail.com > phone:386-383-5175 > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at >
Re: iTunes lost all my stuff
haha yay!! glad it worked and you don't have to rebuild your library from scratch!! yay, us doggie handlers got it goin' on!! lol :D On 2010-02-08, at 7:54 AM, rayna424 wrote: > It worked! I had tried it early but I don't think I held the option > key in time. This time it worked!!! Yay Thank you Doggy > handlers unite! Hahahaha! Yay!!! > > > Jessi and Goldina wrote: >> hey Randi! >> holding down the option key when you launch iTunes will bring up the dialog >> about the library. that's how you switch from one library to the next. do >> that and find your library and you should be good to go! and that's how you >> can make more than one library! >> On 2010-02-08, at 6:35 AM, rayna424 wrote: >> >>> Hmmm. Well since you're saying the problem occured because I might >>> have held down the option key, I wonder if I launch iTunes and hold >>> the option key, if it will ask me about the library again. I might try >>> that when I get to where I can tackle this problem. All the other >>> options sound really daunting, so I'd rather find the easiest route. I >>> also thought about uninstalling iTunes and re-downloading it. I wonder >>> if that would do it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Scott Howell wrote: >>>> SOmeone had previously recommended you either direct iTunes to use the >>>> previous copy of the library or just copy the library from the previous >>>> iTunes library folder back into the top-level of the iTunes folder. Of >>>> course if you use Time Machine, you can always restore the previous >>>> library from there as well. >>>> If all that fails, you can always reimport all of your music and if it is >>>> all tagged properly, you should end up with the same library you had >>>> before the upgrade. One other suggestion, when launching any program, >>>> instead of pressing VO-spacebar on the item, use command-o. This avoids >>>> the potential for the option key being trapped by the program, which is >>>> probably what happen. >>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:52 PM, rayna424 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ok, this is good stuff to look at tomorrow. Do you know if there's >>>>> anyway to restore iTunes to before the update? Then I can just make >>>>> sure that library thing doesn't happen. I wish I had known, or just >>>>> quit it. Sounds like fixing it will be hard. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Scott Howell wrote: >>>>>> All you have to do is simply quit iTUnes in most cases and just restart >>>>>> it. I find where the issue shows itself is when you accidentally hold >>>>>> the option key down while iTunes is loading. This allows you to select >>>>>> an alternate iTunes library. WHenever iTunes comes up and asks me for a >>>>>> library, I just quit and relaunch iTunes and all is well. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello. In the future, when ITunes asks you to choose a library, you >>>>>>> should browse to your music/itunes folder, then push the choose library >>>>>>> button or whatever it is called.. That's actually where the Itunes >>>>>>> library is. That's what I have to do a lot of times when software >>>>>>> updates come out. Unfortunately, since you didn't do that this time, >>>>>>> I'm not sure how to change it back. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 6:12 PM, rayna424 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am restraining myself from calling Apple until tomorrow. I just did >>>>>>>> the latest iTunes software update, and when it was done, it asked me >>>>>>>> to pick a library. Huh? I think I just selected music. Well, all my >>>>>>>> stuff is gone. All of it. Gone. I'm freaking out and have shut down >>>>>>>> iTunes until I calm down and/or hopefully get some answers. If you >>>>>>>> have any ideas, please, please tell me. I have all my stuff on my >>>>>>>> iPods, but not on a hard back up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks... >>>>>>>> >>>>
dvd player refusing to play dvd's?
hey guys the cd/dvd drive on my macbook has been doing some weird things lately. it'll play most cds and dvd's, but it's iffy on my glee road to sectionals box set. there are four dvd's in the set, the first 13 episodes of the show. sometimes they'll work, but most of the time they just spin and stop and spin and stop and finally the dvd player spits them out. they're not mounted to the finder and the mac doesn't seem to have any recognission that they're inserted except for the spinning and stopping before spitting out. I've tried cleaning the dvd's and it doesn't make a difference. does anyone know why it might be doing this? I hope there's nothing wrong with the drive! but I don't think so, cuz it works with other cd's! and sometimes with the glee ones too, just not all the time! it seems to have a mind of its own about when it wants to work! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: dvd player refusing to play dvd's?
weird. these are store bought though. and sometimes they work, sometimes not. On 2010-02-15, at 6:46 PM, carlene knight wrote: > HI: > > I've got a Mini that has a problem with some CD.'s too, particularly ones > that have been burned without using ITunes. I don't know if they are in a > strange format or what. My drive makes a horrible noise and then the action > you describe. It's hard to get the disk out. It might spit it out if I left > it long enough. My husband's Mini does it too with the same CD.'s. > > On Feb 12, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> hey guys >> the cd/dvd drive on my macbook has been doing some weird things lately. >> it'll play most cds and dvd's, but it's iffy on my glee road to sectionals >> box set. there are four dvd's in the set, the first 13 episodes of the show. >> sometimes they'll work, but most of the time they just spin and stop and >> spin and stop and finally the dvd player spits them out. they're not mounted >> to the finder and the mac doesn't seem to have any recognission that they're >> inserted except for the spinning and stopping before spitting out. >> >> I've tried cleaning the dvd's and it doesn't make a difference. does anyone >> know why it might be doing this? I hope there's nothing wrong with the >> drive! but I don't think so, cuz it works with other cd's! and sometimes >> with the glee ones too, just not all the time! it seems to have a mind of >> its own about when it wants to work! >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > carlene knight > http://carleneknight.blogspot.com > ckni...@knight-toolworks.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: meeting mac users
hey, check out apple socialize! http://groups.google.com/group/apple-socialize it's not very active but it's there!! On 2010-02-26, at 7:09 PM, David Geiger wrote: > hey guys i know this is not a daiting site or anything but i would > love to meet other mac users dont matter where from be nice to talk > too but i am in virginia in the us thanks just thought i would > start here > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Power issue on macbook
mine's done this a few times too but I'm not really worried. it usually happens when I'm doing something quickly like arrowing through to check the time. it's like voiceover says whoa, you're going way too fast and I'm really confused so I'll just pop, lol. leaving it for a few seconds and then restarting voiceover usually does the trick. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 30-Apr-09, at 6:45 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > I probably need to take it in to the Apple store but wonder if any of > you have experienced this. Sometimes I hear a pop, just a quiet one. > The computer will freeze and then be fine. Today I heard a louder pop > and nothing would happen when I hit keys. I could hear that it was on. > I forced a shutdown and then it was fine. I should probably take it in > right? I've only had it since December. Worried. > > Thanks guys, > Randi > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power issue on macbook
you restart voiceover with command f5. command f5 once to turn it off, then again to turn it back on. you might have to fiddle with it a few times, but eventually it will come back. you shouldn't have to restart your macbook. I'm not sure if the whole computer freezes when this happens or if it's just a voiceover thing but turning voiceover off and then back on again should definitely fix it. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 30-Apr-09, at 7:57 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > Oh yes it happens just the way you describe, when I'm going really > fast. > > How do you restart VO? That is different than restarting the macbook? > > Thank you! > Randi > > Jessi and Goldina wrote: >> mine's done this a few times too but I'm not really worried. it >> usually happens when I'm doing something quickly like arrowing >> through >> to check the time. it's like voiceover says whoa, you're going way >> too >> fast and I'm really confused so I'll just pop, lol. leaving it for a >> few seconds and then restarting voiceover usually does the trick. >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 30-Apr-09, at 6:45 PM, rayna424 wrote: >> >>> >>> I probably need to take it in to the Apple store but wonder if any >>> of >>> you have experienced this. Sometimes I hear a pop, just a quiet one. >>> The computer will freeze and then be fine. Today I heard a louder >>> pop >>> and nothing would happen when I hit keys. I could hear that it was >>> on. >>> I forced a shutdown and then it was fine. I should probably take >>> it in >>> right? I've only had it since December. Worried. >>> >>> Thanks guys, >>> Randi >>>> > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
strange behavior
hey guys, just hmmming over some things this morning lol. when I got up this morning and was looking at my twitter messages, just arrowing through them in twitteriffic, voiceover crashed! I think it was still running, cuz when I took focus away it made the little clicking sound, but when I command f5'd to turn it off and back on again, it wouldn't come back!! I had to restart!!! it's done it twice today!! I just got through repairing disc permissions, so we'll see if that does anything, but does anyone else's do this? the speech just randomly stops out of nowhere but it seems as if voiceover is still running? and then a lot of my apps seem to be running slowly. mostly twitteriffic, itunes and ijournal, but I'm thinking maybe that's just cuz they all need time to connect to the internet before they can be used? so maybe that's nothing. but my machine does seem a bit more sluggish than usual. poor thing. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: vo and twitterific
or you could follow me too :) but yeah. that's your problem, you need some followers!! then it'll bring up the table. and I'll stop now cuz I don't want this to turn into a "follow me!" post. lol Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 21-May-09, at 5:17 PM, Arthur Pirika wrote: > > hi, it's a fresh account so, no followers. > > Arthur. > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Baxter" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:32 AM > Subject: Re: vo and twitterific > > >> >> Do you have any followers to put in a table? >> >> >> Mark BurningHawk >> >> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >> My home page: >> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
issue with mail and new safari 4 beta
hey guys I'm back on my mac, yay yay and more yay!!! thank goodness, lol when I booted it up after not for a week, the new safari 4 beta was there to greet me in the software update. how lovely!! so I installed it. now, I seem to be having a problem with mail. I'll be reading my messages, but after awhile when I VO J on a message, VO just says scroll area and it won't let me read the message. I can't interact with it or anything. if I VO J again it'll bring me back into the messages table, but it won't let me read any other messages. the only way I can get this to stop is to quit mail and reopen it again, and that's very inconvenient!!! has anyone else had this issue and if so how did you go about fixing it? is it a bug with the new safari 4 beta? cuz it only happened after I installed that!!! thanks. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: issue with mail and new safari 4 beta
ah, cool. well, thankfully, the weird mail behavior has stopped for the time being? hopefully it was just a fluke thing and it's gonna act right now lol. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 21-May-09, at 8:12 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: > > I use an alternate form of navigation in Mail, where I don't actually > interact with the messages table unless I specifically need to, and > use Tab to cycle back and forth between the message content area and > the messages table, and regular arrows to move in the messages table. > > Mark BurningHawk > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: wonderful news about apple care
haha OMG I totally do that too!! cheer when the mac adds come on. and I'm always defending my mac against pc people lol!!! I totally agree with everything you just said!!! yes!!! lol. my dad calls me a computer snob. I haven't quite figured out if he's kidding or not lol. maybe half and half? he claims that pc's "just work." and I laugh because it's been a long time since I've seen a pc "just work!" they always need updates and fixes and virus updates and ugh...gives me a headache just thinking about those days. I'm not clueless, I know there are viruses for the mac, but they're so few and far between!! it's so nice to not have to worry!! and yes, the mac has a few lil quirks too, mostly where voiceover and safari are concerned, and I really really wish it would play nicer with flash and firefox, but I'm sure those things will come in time. I'm sticking with this little macbook of mine!!! lol. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian)_diva On 25-May-09, at 12:36 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: > > Hi Ben, Jese and all, > > I know exactly where you all are coming from. I love my Mac! I love > it so much I have been known to cheer when the Mac adverts come on > TV. I have even been known to shush people when they come on. > Likewise I've been known to boo the PC adverts My feeance Larry > thinks I'm a bit demented for this. He says it is just an expensive > computer. He even pointed at the $300 junkey laptop he bought earlier > in the year and said it had the same stuff on it as my macbook and was > a lot less money. I pointed up that it didn't have a built-in web > cam, like my macbook. I pointed up that it's joke of a screen reader > is a major suckfest as is their screen enlargement program. I pointed > up I haven't had popups, spam, spyware, malware and none of the other > agravations I had with my PC. Also pointed up the biggest reason MY > macbook is way better than his junkey laptop pc. It doesn't have > Vista! Or blue screens o death. > > I tell everyone about my loverly Mac. Even tried to win my dad over > to the Mac side now he's loosing vision. It is expensive right off > when you buy it. But you don't have to keep on buying updates to > screen readers every time there is an upgrade in the OS or whatever. > I used to be frightfully anoyed when I found out an upgrade in Windows > was on the way because it meant my JAWS was soon going to be > outdated. Now I don't have to worry. If and when they do move on to > the next mac OS I know that I'll be covered. I might have to pay $150 > ish or so but that beats the heck out of first buing a new OS then a > new screen reader then everything else like anti-malware and stuff. > > I catch myself actually feeling bad for people who have to only use a > PC or those of us who are blind not knowing how much better their > lives could be all because of a mac. I'm sure nonmac people think me > off my head but when something just works right out of the box and > keeps working with very little glitches then yah I'm going to be off > my head about it. :-) > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: wonderful news about apple care
man...if I had a choice every computer in the world would be a mac. lol who needs pc's anyway right? lol. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 27-May-09, at 12:27 PM, Ben King wrote: > > Dear Jenny, > > Thank you for your email. I agree with you completely. Macs are the > best! Voiceover rocks! I am trying to win my Mom over to the Mac side > as well and I think I have her there. If I had say in what computers > went in my house, they would be all Mac! I hope everything is going > well. > Blessings, > Ben > On May 25, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: > >> >> Hi Ben, Jese and all, >> >> I know exactly where you all are coming from. I love my Mac! I love >> it so much I have been known to cheer when the Mac adverts come on >> TV. I have even been known to shush people when they come on. >> Likewise I've been known to boo the PC adverts My feeance Larry >> thinks I'm a bit demented for this. He says it is just an expensive >> computer. He even pointed at the $300 junkey laptop he bought >> earlier >> in the year and said it had the same stuff on it as my macbook and >> was >> a lot less money. I pointed up that it didn't have a built-in web >> cam, like my macbook. I pointed up that it's joke of a screen reader >> is a major suckfest as is their screen enlargement program. I >> pointed >> up I haven't had popups, spam, spyware, malware and none of the other >> agravations I had with my PC. Also pointed up the biggest reason MY >> macbook is way better than his junkey laptop pc. It doesn't have >> Vista! Or blue screens o death. >> >> I tell everyone about my loverly Mac. Even tried to win my dad over >> to the Mac side now he's loosing vision. It is expensive right off >> when you buy it. But you don't have to keep on buying updates to >> screen readers every time there is an upgrade in the OS or whatever. >> I used to be frightfully anoyed when I found out an upgrade in >> Windows >> was on the way because it meant my JAWS was soon going to be >> outdated. Now I don't have to worry. If and when they do move on to >> the next mac OS I know that I'll be covered. I might have to pay >> $150 >> ish or so but that beats the heck out of first buing a new OS then a >> new screen reader then everything else like anti-malware and stuff. >> >> I catch myself actually feeling bad for people who have to only use a >> PC or those of us who are blind not knowing how much better their >> lives could be all because of a mac. I'm sure nonmac people think me >> off my head but when something just works right out of the box and >> keeps working with very little glitches then yah I'm going to be off >> my head about it. :-) >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington
hey, Ben, this is good news!!! I love when I hear good stories about apple employees not only knowing what voiceover is, but wanting to help improve it!!! I've never even been to the apple store here in vancouver, canada, I know...sad!! lol. I need to find a way over there. but when I do I'll definitely tell how it was!!! your suggestions were good, too!! I definitely would've said firefox. IPhone is good, maybe the more they hear it the more they'll consider it? although when I talked to the firefox people at CSUN this year they assured me making it accessible with voiceover was a "priority." maybe they were just saying that to make me go away? or maybe it takes time and I'm impatient lol. I think flash is another big one, although it seems like adobe and apple aren't willing to budge on that one and they keep blaming the other, so we'll see if that ever happens. I hope so though, since flash is such a huge part of the internet these days!!! but congrats on a great apple store experience, apple is truly a one of a kind organization!! yay!! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 27-May-09, at 10:37 PM, Ben King wrote: > > Dear Mac Friends, > > I am writing you to let you know about an experience I had today at > the University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington. The person > that I spoke to was very nice and he asked me what I would like to see > improved in regards to Voiceover. I told him that Fire Fox would be > nice with Voiceover support as well as maybe an accessible I Phone. > Anyway, it was extremely nice for me to go into an Apple Store and > play with main stream technology. I love Voiceover as well as the > Mac. I hope you all have a nice evening. > Blessings, > Ben King > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington
agreed, Arthur, lol. if you're gonna take that approach about the iphone and firefox and their various addons and apps why don't you just say that about voiceover as a whole? what it seems like you're saying is let's not make the iphone accessible cuz none of the apps will be. well then, let's not make the mac accessible because of all those apps that aren't made by apple that may not be. that seems like a silly approach. I'm sure there will be plenty of iphone apps that will be accessible. as the word about accessibility grows, app developers will most likely strive to make their products accessible. they've done so on the mac, so I don't see why they wouldn't on the iphone. I'm sure apple will do it, it's only a matter of time. let's not be all negative and try and shoot down something that could benefit us. the iphone will still be the iphone whether it's accessible or not. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 28-May-09, at 12:23 PM, arthur gindin wrote: > > spamming hardly befits a "distinguished" person > > Sean Tikkun wrote: >> Can folks on this board help me out here? I don't see the point of >> an accessible iPhone. The fluid dynamic of screen touch technology >> combined with GUI interface seems like it is just a counter >> accessible >> design form the get go. Once you make the thing accessible it is no >> longer an iPhone. I may not be far enough outside the box, but even >> if the iPhone were made accessible then all of the apps would still >> not be. It is the same issue with Firefox. If Firefox wanted to be >> accessible, they would be! From my understanding the mark-up is >> there. The code for using it is free to the programmers and >> developers... They just don't care to do it. >> Shouldn't we be e-mail spamming Firefox to get with the program? >> >> >> Sean Richards Tikkun >> Apple Distinghuished Educator >> class of 2007 >> jaq...@mac.com >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 28, 2009, at 5:20 AM, Vicki Manley wrote: >> >> >>> Hi, >>> That would be so ace if they brought out an accessible i phone >>> What a really great suggestion!!! >>> Best wishes, >>> Vicki. >>> On 28 May 2009, at 06:37, Ben King wrote: >>> >>> Dear Mac Friends, I am writing you to let you know about an experience I had today at the University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington. The person that I spoke to was very nice and he asked me what I would like to see improved in regards to Voiceover. I told him that Fire Fox would be nice with Voiceover support as well as maybe an accessible I Phone. Anyway, it was extremely nice for me to go into an Apple Store and play with main stream technology. I love Voiceover as well as the Mac. I hope you all have a nice evening. Blessings, Ben King >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en > -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington
yeah, in deed. and I'm sure safari's bugs will all get worked out in time too. the only reason i really want firefox is so I can use webvisum. although, there's that solona captcha solving service, so maybe webvisum isn't even needed. still, it would be nice if firefox was accessible and I hope they take it seriously and do it. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 28-May-09, at 2:08 PM, gene wrote: > > Hi yeah I hope that mozilla will make firefox accessible I mean it's > accessible with jaws and window eyes for windows so I curtainlly > don't see > why they wouldn't make it work with voice over. Safari still has > some bugs > in it and hopefully, if ff was accessible we wouldn't have to deal > with > htat! > Gene > - Original Message - > From: "Jessi and Goldina" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:41 PM > Subject: Re: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in > Seattle Washington > > >> >> hey, Ben, >> this is good news!!! I love when I hear good stories about apple >> employees not only knowing what voiceover is, but wanting to help >> improve it!!! I've never even been to the apple store here in >> vancouver, canada, I know...sad!! lol. I need to find a way over >> there. but when I do I'll definitely tell how it was!!! >> your suggestions were good, too!! I definitely would've said firefox. >> IPhone is good, maybe the more they hear it the more they'll consider >> it? although when I talked to the firefox people at CSUN this year >> they assured me making it accessible with voiceover was a "priority." >> maybe they were just saying that to make me go away? or maybe it >> takes >> time and I'm impatient lol. >> I think flash is another big one, although it seems like adobe and >> apple aren't willing to budge on that one and they keep blaming the >> other, so we'll see if that ever happens. I hope so though, since >> flash is such a huge part of the internet these days!!! >> >> but congrats on a great apple store experience, apple is truly a one >> of a kind organization!! yay!! >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 27-May-09, at 10:37 PM, Ben King wrote: >> >>> >>> Dear Mac Friends, >>> >>> I am writing you to let you know about an experience I had today at >>> the University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington. The >>> person >>> that I spoke to was very nice and he asked me what I would like to >>> see >>> improved in regards to Voiceover. I told him that Fire Fox would be >>> nice with Voiceover support as well as maybe an accessible I Phone. >>> Anyway, it was extremely nice for me to go into an Apple Store and >>> play with main stream technology. I love Voiceover as well as the >>> Mac. I hope you all have a nice evening. >>> Blessings, >>> Ben King >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington
I don't think you're wrong. I'm sure it's only a matter of time. like someone else said it seemed people were freaking out when the GUI interface came to computers and people found ways to make it accessible to us so I'm sure the same will be done for touch screens in time. I can't think of how it might be done, but there are people with more genius minds than mine lol! something can always be done!! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 29-May-09, at 2:47 AM, Vicki Manley wrote: > > Hmmm, > I guess you could beright too. > Maybe i wasn't wrong. > I've seen so many people with iphones and have always wanted it to be > made speech accessible. > Best wishes, > Vicki. > On 28 May 2009, at 20:34, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> >> agreed, Arthur, lol. >> if you're gonna take that approach about the iphone and firefox and >> their various addons and apps why don't you just say that about >> voiceover as a whole? what it seems like you're saying is let's not >> make the iphone accessible cuz none of the apps will be. well then, >> let's not make the mac accessible because of all those apps that >> aren't made by apple that may not be. that seems like a silly >> approach. I'm sure there will be plenty of iphone apps that will be >> accessible. as the word about accessibility grows, app developers >> will >> most likely strive to make their products accessible. they've done so >> on the mac, so I don't see why they wouldn't on the iphone. >> >> I'm sure apple will do it, it's only a matter of time. let's not be >> all negative and try and shoot down something that could benefit us. >> the iphone will still be the iphone whether it's accessible or not. >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 28-May-09, at 12:23 PM, arthur gindin wrote: >> >>> >>> spamming hardly befits a "distinguished" person >>> >>> Sean Tikkun wrote: >>>>Can folks on this board help me out here? I don't see the point >>>> of >>>> an accessible iPhone. The fluid dynamic of screen touch technology >>>> combined with GUI interface seems like it is just a counter >>>> accessible >>>> design form the get go. Once you make the thing accessible it is >>>> no >>>> longer an iPhone. I may not be far enough outside the box, but >>>> even >>>> if the iPhone were made accessible then all of the apps would still >>>> not be. It is the same issue with Firefox. If Firefox wanted to >>>> be >>>> accessible, they would be! From my understanding the mark-up is >>>> there. The code for using it is free to the programmers and >>>> developers... They just don't care to do it. >>>>Shouldn't we be e-mail spamming Firefox to get with the program? >>>> >>>> >>>> Sean Richards Tikkun >>>> Apple Distinghuished Educator >>>> class of 2007 >>>> jaq...@mac.com >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 28, 2009, at 5:20 AM, Vicki Manley wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> That would be so ace if they brought out an accessible i phone >>>>> What a really great suggestion!!! >>>>> Best wishes, >>>>> Vicki. >>>>> On 28 May 2009, at 06:37, Ben King wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Mac Friends, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am writing you to let you know about an experience I had today >>>>>> at >>>>>> the University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington. The >>>>>> person >>>>>> that I spoke to was very nice and he asked me what I would like >>>>>> to >>>>>> see >>>>>> improved in regards to Voiceover. I told him that Fire Fox would >>>>>> be >>>>>> nice with Voiceover support as well as maybe an accessible I >>>>>> Phone. >>>>>> Anyway, it was extremely nice
Re: time
hey if you press VO M twice quickly to get to the second layer of the menu bar and then VO right arrow over a few times you'll get to the time. hopefully there will be a quick command in snow leopard? peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 1-Jun-09, at 8:24 AM, Keith Brown wrote: > is there a key on a macbook to tell the time? thanks > > Keith > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4119 (20090601) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Refreshable Braille displays
really? I just plugged my pm40 display in and it worked right away. the quality of the braille display is another topic for another day, lol, but the fact that it works is a good thing!! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 2-Jun-09, at 8:13 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > I use the PM 40 from FS. I don't know what I did to get it > working, ... but it took a while. It is a little finicky, ... But it > works. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 28-May-09, at 9:23 AM, Sean Tikkun wrote: > >> Hey VO gurus! >> >> I am wanting to play with and learn more about the refreshable >> braille display features of VoiceOver. I understand it's basics and >> am assuming that the display will show the same thing the VoiceOver >> Dialogue box shows. I am trying to upgrade my annual presentation to >> a university program for teachers of students with visual >> impairments. I've been doing this presentation since VoiceOver hit >> the OS, and have loved strutting a new feature each time. >> >> Are there any products to steer towards or away from. Special >> cautions? I tried to use two at an AT showcase, but the Humanware >> dealer couldn't get them to work. My braille skills told me the >> batteries were dead! But he wouldn't admit it. >> >> Your Friend, >> Sean Richards Tikkun >> jaq...@mac.com >> >> >>> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Refreshable Braille displays
oh man I'm always disabling that highlight line!! makes reading s hard!! I wish it would remember not to display that, lol. I find also sometimes if I'm reading a long email or something, I'll only be able to read so far into it with the braille display before it won't display anything else new. then I have to reinteract with it and then I'm able to read the whole thing. I don't use my braille display all the time, but I like reading personal emails with it. for some reason it makes them even more enjoyable lol. and sometimes I'll just mute Alex and use the braille display for everything for awhile. then I can listen to music at whater volume I want, lol. yay for braille displays and their awesomeness!!! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 2-Jun-09, at 11:41 PM, James Dietz wrote: > > Aside from a few issues (mainly VO's inability to remember braille > settings across multiple sessions - like whether or not to display > that obnoxious highlight line) braille is quite effective and neat. > Some things aren't intuitive - I can't click on a member of a group > in while browsing a webpage (in group mode of course) with one of the > routing buttons until I actually interact with that group. It'd be > nice if I could just click it (as my hand is interacting with the > group, so to speak). I use a pm 20 cell, and vo recognizes it when > plugged in (ping and all).. > > James > > On 6/3/09, George Zaynoun wrote: >> >> And I plugged the braille sync 20 from hims and it worked also. >> Original message: >> >>> really? I just plugged my pm40 display in and it worked right away. >>> the quality of the braille display is another topic for another day, >>> lol, but the fact that it works is a good thing!! >>> peace and positivity >>> Jessi >>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >>> On 2-Jun-09, at 8:13 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I use the PM 40 from FS. I don't know what I did to get it working, ... but it took a while. It is a little finicky, ... But it works. >> Regards, Alex, >> >> On 28-May-09, at 9:23 AM, Sean Tikkun wrote: >> > Hey VO gurus! >> > I am wanting to play with and learn more about the refreshable > braille display features of VoiceOver. I understand it's basics > and > am assuming that the display will show the same thing the > VoiceOver > Dialogue box shows. I am trying to upgrade my annual > presentation to > a university program for teachers of students with visual > impairments. I've been doing this presentation since VoiceOver > hit > the OS, and have loved strutting a new feature each time. >> > Are there any products to steer towards or away from. Special > cautions? I tried to use two at an AT showcase, but the Humanware > dealer couldn't get them to work. My braille skills told me the > batteries were dead! But he wouldn't admit it. >> > Your Friend, > Sean Richards Tikkun > jaq...@mac.com >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> -- >> George Zaynoun >> Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE >> Tel/Fax: +46500201623 >> Mobile: +46707567315 >> E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net >> >> Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit >> www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. >> >>> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: voice over comes to the I phone
I'm in the same position. I love my e71 to death!!! it's a great phone!!! but an IPhone!!! just the thought of it is like wow! On 8-Jun-09, at 4:37 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > I can't diside if I should get one or not. > The idea of knowing where abouts things are on the screen is a good > one - i've missed being able to know that since i've lost my site. > However, I really don't see the advantage of a iphone over my e71. > > On 09/06/2009, glenn wrote: >> Hello >> Does anyone know of any demonstration videos showing the addition of >> Voiceover? >> Any word whether Voiceover will be available for the ipod touch? >> >>Glenn >> - Original Message - >> From: Josh de Lioncourt >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 6:54 PM >> Subject: Re: voice over comes to the I phone >> >> >> >> >> I'm still kind of in shock. This is beyond fantastic news. I'll >> have to >> get me an iPhone as soon as I possibly can. This is just tremendous. >> >> >> The description of how it works sounds very inuitive. I absoltuely >> cannot >> wait. >> >> >> >> >> >> Josh de Lioncourt >> …my other mail provider is an owl… >> >> >> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt >> Music: http://stage19music.com >> Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com >> Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com >> GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt >> >> >> On Jun 8, 2009, at 1:41 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: >> >> >> >>Read. >>http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > > > -- > Kind regards, BEN. > > email: bmustillr...@gmail.com > msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com > web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone
ooh this is exciting!! sounds like snow leopard is gonna be awesome! I think it's nifty how they're integrading all that stuff with the track pad into snow leopard too. it seems like that's the new direction they're taking things!!! I can't wait to see how this works! oh, such an exciting time to be a mac user! On 8-Jun-09, at 7:23 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > HI, > > Note: I do not have a Snow Leopard build. However, here is a link my > LAn tech gave me for a good article from Apple about Voiceover and > Snow Leopard. > > Read: > > http://www.apple.com/macosx/accessibility/ > > . > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 8-Jun-09, at 1:41 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > >> >> Read. >> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone
heck yes omg! s freakin' excited! On 9-Jun-09, at 12:38 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > Wow, that's going to be totally awesome. Especially the web stuff in > there. Sweet > On Jun 8, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > >> >> HI, >> >> Note: I do not have a Snow Leopard build. However, here is a link my >> LAn tech gave me for a good article from Apple about Voiceover and >> Snow Leopard. >> >> Read: >> >> http://www.apple.com/macosx/accessibility/ >> >> . >> >> Regards, >> Alex, >> >> >> On 8-Jun-09, at 1:41 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: >> >>> >>> Read. >>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: voice over comes to the I phone
I agree with Dan. I think more apps will be accessible in time. now that people are finding out about voiceover on the IPhone, just like on the mac, they'll start writing apps with accessibility in mind. and who knows, maybe some apps are accessible already just cuz of how they're written? I wanna be able to have my IPhone listen to a song and tell me what song it is!!! lol. that sounds uber cool On 9-Jun-09, at 1:17 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > An interestng artical: > http://twittermail.com/tweet/MzAxMTUzOA > > John brings up a valid point here when he states that apple are > implying that most of the apps from the app store won't work. > First of all, don't get me wrong, I think this is a wonderfull step > forward in accessabilitty of touch devices, but the apps are pretty > much what makes the i phone the i phone. > I know I sound like a spoilt kid, but I want to be able to wave my > phone around to the sounds of a light saber and to be able to mimick a > wind instrument by blowing into the phone. There not the best examples > of apps that would be hard to use, but I really do feel that in this > situation, it will be the early adopters that will loos out here when > apple release a new version of voice over that will require more > processing power. > > > On 09/06/2009, ben mustill-rose wrote: >> I know exactly what you mean (smiles) >> I want the sleekness and I could probably get used to the touch, but >> really, if you disregard the touch screen I really don't see many >> advantages that would justifie me spending that amount of money. >> But it is a i phone. >> >> On 09/06/2009, Jessi and Goldina wrote: >>> >>> I'm in the same position. I love my e71 to death!!! it's a great >>> phone!!! but an IPhone!!! just the thought of it is like wow! >>> On 8-Jun-09, at 4:37 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I can't diside if I should get one or not. >>>> The idea of knowing where abouts things are on the screen is a good >>>> one - i've missed being able to know that since i've lost my site. >>>> However, I really don't see the advantage of a iphone over my e71. >>>> >>>> On 09/06/2009, glenn wrote: >>>>> Hello >>>>> Does anyone know of any demonstration videos showing the >>>>> addition of >>>>> Voiceover? >>>>> Any word whether Voiceover will be available for the ipod touch? >>>>> >>>>> Glenn >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: Josh de Lioncourt >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 6:54 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: voice over comes to the I phone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm still kind of in shock. This is beyond fantastic news. I'll >>>>> have to >>>>> get me an iPhone as soon as I possibly can. This is just >>>>> tremendous. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The description of how it works sounds very inuitive. I absoltuely >>>>> cannot >>>>> wait. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Josh de Lioncourt >>>>> …my other mail provider is an owl… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt >>>>> Music: http://stage19music.com >>>>> Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com >>>>> Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com >>>>> GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 8, 2009, at 1:41 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Read. >>>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kind regards, BEN. >>>> >>>> email: bmustillr...@gmail.com >>>> msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com >>>> web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kind regards, BEN. >> >> email: bmustillr...@gmail.com >> msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com >> web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) >> > > > -- > Kind regards, BEN. > > email: bmustillr...@gmail.com > msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com > web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: voice over comes to the I phone
yeah I know. exactly. although the e71 is pretty sleak too. I'm really curious to see how the touch screen will work! that's another reason why I want it. I'm a cutting edge kinda girl lol. I wanna be one of the first blind people to pull out my iphone and use a touch screen device!!! it'll be one of those "how do they do it?" moments lol. I'm just so excited about where this is going! I wanna jump in! but I do love my e71 and I just got it in january with a talks upgrade!! so I dunno how I'd get an IPhone. although I'm on the right carrier that has them, so hmmm. On 9-Jun-09, at 1:00 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > I know exactly what you mean (smiles) > I want the sleekness and I could probably get used to the touch, but > really, if you disregard the touch screen I really don't see many > advantages that would justifie me spending that amount of money. > But it is a i phone. > > On 09/06/2009, Jessi and Goldina wrote: >> >> I'm in the same position. I love my e71 to death!!! it's a great >> phone!!! but an IPhone!!! just the thought of it is like wow! >> On 8-Jun-09, at 4:37 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: >> >>> >>> I can't diside if I should get one or not. >>> The idea of knowing where abouts things are on the screen is a good >>> one - i've missed being able to know that since i've lost my site. >>> However, I really don't see the advantage of a iphone over my e71. >>> >>> On 09/06/2009, glenn wrote: >>>> Hello >>>> Does anyone know of any demonstration videos showing the addition >>>> of >>>> Voiceover? >>>> Any word whether Voiceover will be available for the ipod touch? >>>> >>>> Glenn >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: Josh de Lioncourt >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 6:54 PM >>>> Subject: Re: voice over comes to the I phone >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm still kind of in shock. This is beyond fantastic news. I'll >>>> have to >>>> get me an iPhone as soon as I possibly can. This is just >>>> tremendous. >>>> >>>> >>>> The description of how it works sounds very inuitive. I absoltuely >>>> cannot >>>> wait. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh de Lioncourt >>>> …my other mail provider is an owl… >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt >>>> Music: http://stage19music.com >>>> Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com >>>> Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com >>>> GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 8, 2009, at 1:41 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read. >>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kind regards, BEN. >>> >>> email: bmustillr...@gmail.com >>> msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com >>> web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > -- > Kind regards, BEN. > > email: bmustillr...@gmail.com > msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com > web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: safari 4 issue
try command left bracket. the one to the right of the p. On 9-Jun-09, at 7:10 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: > > tried that and that doesn't work. > > On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Larry Wanger wrote: > >> >> Try command with backspace instead. >> >> >> On Jun 8, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: >> >>> >>> Hey all. i'm having a safari 4 issue. when i try to go back with >>> command left arrow, it doesn't go back like it did in version 3. is >>> there a fix for this? >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: safari 4 issue
yeah, I think it was always command. I've been using that key to go back forever!! On 9-Jun-09, at 5:39 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > Wasn't it always command [? I've used that keystroke ever since > Safari 3 actually, noticed that was the shortcut for going back that > was announced by VO in going through the menus. So I've always used > that since Safari 3. > On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:35 AM, kaare dehard wrote: > >> >> yep try command [ they've changed the key. >> On 9-Jun-09, at 12:14 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: >> >>> >>> Hey all. i'm having a safari 4 issue. when i try to go back with >>> command left arrow, it doesn't go back like it did in version 3. is >>> there a fix for this? >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone
oh I know!!! it's amazing the mac may not be for everybody, but it is most certainly for me!! On 9-Jun-09, at 2:28 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > > 9 jun 2009 kl. 09.41 skrev Jessi and Goldina: > >> oh, such an exciting time to be a mac user! > > I couldn't agree more. I'm so glad i jumped on the Mac train when i > did. I can't believe what Apple is doing for us. > /Krister > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Voiceover on iPhone demo was Re: voice over comes to the I phone
where did you see the demo? are you talking about the IPhone guided tour on the apple site? I don't think that would be the voice, but maybe. On 9-Jun-09, at 8:38 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > The voice on the phone is Victoria because of her great workings with > low RAM systems. She is the English US Candidate it seems. > > I saw this in a demo. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hi,
I totally think it's samantha too. it sounds exactly like her. it has to be. On 10-Jun-09, at 6:15 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: > > i see. but it sounds more like samantha i know this because i have a > victor reader stream and i've used a breeze once. > > On Jun 10, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > >> >> >> I disagree. It has to be Victoria. Maybe Victoria and Samantha sound >> alike. >> >> Regards, >> Alex, >> >> >> On 10-Jun-09, at 6:44 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: >> >>> >>> the voice on the guided tour was Samatha. the one on the victor >>> reader >>> stream and trecker breeze. >>> >>> On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:42 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> where did you see the demo? are you talking about the IPhone guided >>>> tour on the apple site? I don't think that would be the voice, but >>>> maybe. >>>> On 9-Jun-09, at 8:38 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> The voice on the phone is Victoria because of her great workings >>>>> with >>>>> low RAM systems. She is the English US Candidate it seems. >>>>> >>>>> I saw this in a demo. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Alex, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
safari acting strange
hey guys I'm trying to view videos on this site, www.theifactor.ca some of my friends are in this and I wanted to listen/vote for them. I've tried everything, but I can't get the videos to play!! they seem to be images. can someone else take a look and see if you can get them to play? this is really annoying cuz it even mentions that you can view the site in safari!! and this is a music contest for blind people, so it really bothers me that the page isn't fully accessible. thanks. Jessi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: safari acting strange
from what I've been hearing it's not accessible under windows either. this is absolutely unacceptable. On 13-Jun-09, at 12:04 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > This is disappointing, but since CNIB is hosting it, they don't > support VO. > > I am disappointed as I am in it. > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 13-Jun-09, at 12:09 AM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> >> hey guys >> I'm trying to view videos on this site, www.theifactor.ca >> some of my friends are in this and I wanted to listen/vote for them. >> I've tried everything, but I can't get the videos to play!! they seem >> to be images. can someone else take a look and see if you can get >> them >> to play? this is really annoying cuz it even mentions that you can >> view the site in safari!! and this is a music contest for blind >> people, so it really bothers me that the page isn't fully accessible. >> thanks. >> Jessi >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A nice video about the accessibility features on the new Iphone
this is definitely cool!! woohoo!!! s freakin' excited but I have to wait a year lol! :( On 14-Jun-09, at 6:06 AM, jesus hernandez wrote: > > hello just herd this it is cool might go take a look at the iphone > next weekend. > On Jun 14, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > >> >> Hi. >> >> I'm sorry if this link has ben posted here before. I've just found a >> nice video on Youtube, where a guy is discussing the accessibility >> features on the Iphone. Here is the link to the video: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRZuBe3TZyU >> Have an awesome day. >> Best regards >> Søren Jensen >> Mail & MSN: >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >> Website: >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >> >> >>> > > jesus hernandez > jessi...@bellsouth.net > > Skype: jessie > Aim: jactac > Msn: hernandez_jes...@hotmail.com > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard
yeah, I don't know how this can be snow leopard since it's not out yet, unless maybe they got a developer copy? but I'm listening to it anyway lol On 14-Jun-09, at 8:52 AM, Ignasi Cambra wrote: > Hello all, > Here's the link for a podcast with a demo of VO working in Snow > Leopard. Enjoy. > http://download.yousendit.com/UmNKOGNUb0JlaFNGa1E9PQ > > Ignasi > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
question about the trackpad/touch screen?
hey guys, I'm sending this to both list cuz it applies to both. I'm just curious. since there's the trackpad in snowleopard and the touch screen on the iphone, wouldn't they both get activated accidently? my mom had a touch screen phone once and she traded it in for a blackberry cuz she couldn't stand the touch screen. everytime she talked on it, she kept accidently pressing buttons on the phone and she kept ending her calls. would this be an issue with the iphone? or is there a way to disable the touch screen when youre actually in a call? also, it would be the same on the mac. since you can now control voiceover with the trackpad, wouldn't you accidently control things with your wrists while you're typing? or is the trackpad so much out of the way that you wouldn't hit it while you were typing? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard
haha yeah that's what I figured lol. I'm not knocking it, it's currently playing right now and I'm lovin' it! lol On 14-Jun-09, at 10:44 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> yeah, I don't know how this can be snow leopard since it's not out >> yet, unless maybe they got a developer copy? but I'm listening to it >> anyway lol > > Three words for you: > Yo ho ho! > > And five more: > Ye be walkin' the plank. > > Nuff said if you know where to look. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard
I agree. it may be illegal, but whatever...the OS is coming out in a few months anyway, why can't we have a lil preview? and there were bugs in this podcast that will be fixed by the time the real deal is out I'm sure. I loved the podcast. On 14-Jun-09, at 10:58 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > I'm sure this list will be getting torrents of email about how this is > illegal but never mind. > Sorry, I couldn't help it. > > On 14/06/2009, Jessi and Goldina wrote: >> >> haha yeah that's what I figured lol. I'm not knocking it, it's >> currently playing right now and I'm lovin' it! lol >> On 14-Jun-09, at 10:44 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: >>> >>>> yeah, I don't know how this can be snow leopard since it's not out >>>> yet, unless maybe they got a developer copy? but I'm listening to >>>> it >>>> anyway lol >>> >>> Three words for you: >>> Yo ho ho! >>> >>> And five more: >>> Ye be walkin' the plank. >>> >>> Nuff said if you know where to look. >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > -- > Kind regards, BEN. > > email: bmustillr...@gmail.com > msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com > web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: question about the trackpad/touch screen?
yeah, that's true, I don't think my mac will be able to use the trackpad cuz it's older and just has the regular mouse pad and I was lead to believe that the trackpad is different and only comes on the new aluminum macbooks? so I might have to miss out on that bit of fun unless you can do it with a regular mouse pad lol. I don't wanna clog up this list with IPhone stuff but I hope the regular IPhones will disable the touchscreen when in a call too, cuz I can see that getting really annoying!! On 14-Jun-09, at 11:02 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > My friends i phones touch screen gets disabled when he's making a call > but its jail broken so i'm not sure how this works when one uses the > propper o.s. > As far as the touchpad on laptops goes, i'm guessing that it would be > no different to me using a macook running leopard; at the moment, i'm > typing and my fingers or arms aren't anywhere near the touchpad. > > On 14/06/2009, Jessi and Goldina wrote: >> >> hey guys, >> I'm sending this to both list cuz it applies to both. I'm just >> curious. >> >> since there's the trackpad in snowleopard and the touch screen on the >> iphone, wouldn't they both get activated accidently? my mom had a >> touch screen phone once and she traded it in for a blackberry cuz she >> couldn't stand the touch screen. everytime she talked on it, she kept >> accidently pressing buttons on the phone and she kept ending her >> calls. would this be an issue with the iphone? or is there a way to >> disable the touch screen when youre actually in a call? >> >> also, it would be the same on the mac. since you can now control >> voiceover with the trackpad, wouldn't you accidently control things >> with your wrists while you're typing? or is the trackpad so much out >> of the way that you wouldn't hit it while you were typing? >> >>> >> > > > -- > Kind regards, BEN. > > email: bmustillr...@gmail.com > msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com > web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Podcast about VO in Snow Leopard
haha. I've been trying to figure out who it is. I sadly don't recognize the voice but now I'm all kinds of curious and I'll probaby never know. On 14-Jun-09, at 11:35 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > This isn't actually a podcast. (Yes, it's all nice and anonymous. > Unless you recognize this guy's voice, no one knows who it is.) It's > an MP3 download posted on YouSendIt: > http://download.yousendit.com/UmNKOGNUb0JlaFNGa1E9PQ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Recognizing a heading which is also a link
hey Felix, yep, you have to interact with the heading, at least that's what I've found. it won't let you click the link unless you interact with the heading first and then you figure out that there's a link there. it's kind of misleading!! however, didn't someone say this would be fixed in snow leopard? or is my early morning brain just imagining things? I thought I heard something recently about headings and links? so, if that's the case, then you shouldn't have to suffer this weird voiceover bug for very long!! w00t, lol. On 15-Jun-09, at 12:54 AM, constantlyvaria...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi! > Now this may just be me not getting a concept right. Probably is. But > here goes, anyway. > Can somebody please tell me how to recognize a heading which is also a > link? Perfect example: Google search results. Google renders them as > headings which is beautiful because it lets us navigate between > results at maximum speed. But VO just says "heading," not "link." To > click on one, I have to interact with the heading. This produces the > signal that VO usually plays when execution of a command is not > possible, but from then on the item is recognized as a link. This > leaves me wondering: Do I have to try to interact with every heading > on a website just to make sure there's no link there? > Thanks in advance for helpful answers, > Felix > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Recognizing a heading which is also a link
huh? neither tabbing nor using the links list would show you the link that was inside the heading...well it would, but I'd think it would just be faster to interact with the heading!! lol. silly Alex. I seriously hope this is fixed in snow leopard! On 15-Jun-09, at 6:14 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > You can either tab or use the links list dialog. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 15-Jun-09, at 5:25 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> >> Hi. When you're on the heading, interact with it, and the link will >> appear. It can then be selected as usual. >> On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:54 AM, constantlyvaria...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi! >>> Now this may just be me not getting a concept right. Probably is. >>> But >>> here goes, anyway. >>> Can somebody please tell me how to recognize a heading which is >>> also a >>> link? Perfect example: Google search results. Google renders them as >>> headings which is beautiful because it lets us navigate between >>> results at maximum speed. But VO just says "heading," not "link." To >>> click on one, I have to interact with the heading. This produces the >>> signal that VO usually plays when execution of a command is not >>> possible, but from then on the item is recognized as a link. This >>> leaves me wondering: Do I have to try to interact with every heading >>> on a website just to make sure there's no link there? >>> Thanks in advance for helpful answers, >>> Felix >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Recognizing a heading which is also a link
haha. yeah, I think you're right about the setting in safari. but I still stand by the fact that interacting with the heading and then VO spacing on the link would be the fastest way to do it. though both ways would definitely work. On 15-Jun-09, at 8:08 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > HI, > Ms. J. Rathwell and Ms. G. Rathwell: > > Both do work. I think there is a setting for setting how tabbing works > inside the Advanced pain of Safari's preferences. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 15-Jun-09, at 6:39 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> >> huh? neither tabbing nor using the links list would show you the link >> that was inside the heading...well it would, but I'd think it would >> just be faster to interact with the heading!! lol. silly Alex. I >> seriously hope this is fixed in snow leopard! >> On 15-Jun-09, at 6:14 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> You can either tab or use the links list dialog. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> On 15-Jun-09, at 5:25 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi. When you're on the heading, interact with it, and the link will >>>> appear. It can then be selected as usual. >>>> On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:54 AM, constantlyvaria...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> Now this may just be me not getting a concept right. Probably is. >>>>> But >>>>> here goes, anyway. >>>>> Can somebody please tell me how to recognize a heading which is >>>>> also a >>>>> link? Perfect example: Google search results. Google renders them >>>>> as >>>>> headings which is beautiful because it lets us navigate between >>>>> results at maximum speed. But VO just says "heading," not "link." >>>>> To >>>>> click on one, I have to interact with the heading. This produces >>>>> the >>>>> signal that VO usually plays when execution of a command is not >>>>> possible, but from then on the item is recognized as a link. This >>>>> leaves me wondering: Do I have to try to interact with every >>>>> heading >>>>> on a website just to make sure there's no link there? >>>>> Thanks in advance for helpful answers, >>>>> Felix >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Recognizing a heading which is also a link
I think that was the whole problem. he didn't know the links were there, or if he did then he'd wonder how he'd know. and it's true, you don't really know, which is why it really needs to get fixed. I figured that out one day when google search results came up as headings and I was like how do you click on these? so I interacted and there was a link inside. both ideas are good, it's good to have lots of VO tips in the tip bag lol. On 15-Jun-09, at 8:39 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > True. I was just giving alternatives. What if you didn't know the > links were there in the first place. > > Regards, > alex, > > > On 15-Jun-09, at 8:14 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> >> haha. yeah, I think you're right about the setting in safari. but I >> still stand by the fact that interacting with the heading and then VO >> spacing on the link would be the fastest way to do it. though both >> ways would definitely work. >> On 15-Jun-09, at 8:08 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >>> >>> HI, >>> Ms. J. Rathwell and Ms. G. Rathwell: >>> >>> Both do work. I think there is a setting for setting how tabbing >>> works >>> inside the Advanced pain of Safari's preferences. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> On 15-Jun-09, at 6:39 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> huh? neither tabbing nor using the links list would show you the >>>> link >>>> that was inside the heading...well it would, but I'd think it would >>>> just be faster to interact with the heading!! lol. silly Alex. I >>>> seriously hope this is fixed in snow leopard! >>>> On 15-Jun-09, at 6:14 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> You can either tab or use the links list dialog. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Alex, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 15-Jun-09, at 5:25 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi. When you're on the heading, interact with it, and the link >>>>>> will >>>>>> appear. It can then be selected as usual. >>>>>> On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:54 AM, constantlyvaria...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>> Now this may just be me not getting a concept right. Probably >>>>>>> is. >>>>>>> But >>>>>>> here goes, anyway. >>>>>>> Can somebody please tell me how to recognize a heading which is >>>>>>> also a >>>>>>> link? Perfect example: Google search results. Google renders >>>>>>> them >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> headings which is beautiful because it lets us navigate between >>>>>>> results at maximum speed. But VO just says "heading," not >>>>>>> "link." >>>>>>> To >>>>>>> click on one, I have to interact with the heading. This produces >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> signal that VO usually plays when execution of a command is not >>>>>>> possible, but from then on the item is recognized as a link. >>>>>>> This >>>>>>> leaves me wondering: Do I have to try to interact with every >>>>>>> heading >>>>>>> on a website just to make sure there's no link there? >>>>>>> Thanks in advance for helpful answers, >>>>>>> Felix >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Recognizing a heading which is also a link
in deed. I swear I heard someone on this list say it was gonna be fixed? or maybe the dude in the illegal podcast said it? that's probably where I got it from lol. that podcast is messing with my mind. I'm pretty sure it'll be fixed, though. I can't wait to see what other things will be fixed with web navigation! I didn't fully pay attention when I listened to the podcast and I don't think it was an accurate representation of what's new since it didn't seem to be the final version of snow leopard and it seemed to have quite a few bugs in it even when he was demoing it. exciting times a comin'!! hurry up september! On 15-Jun-09, at 8:55 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > Yeah, that's true, right now, in Leopard, I'd say try interacting with > headings, and if they have links in them, then they do. Hopefuly, > this will get fixed in Snow Leopard. With what I've read on the apple > accessibility pages, don't see why it wouldn't get fixed since > navigation of the web is a major area with changes according to what's > up there. > On Jun 15, 2009, at 11:50 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> >> I think that was the whole problem. he didn't know the links were >> there, or if he did then he'd wonder how he'd know. and it's true, >> you >> don't really know, which is why it really needs to get fixed. I >> figured that out one day when google search results came up as >> headings and I was like how do you click on these? so I interacted >> and >> there was a link inside. >> >> both ideas are good, it's good to have lots of VO tips in the tip bag >> lol. >> On 15-Jun-09, at 8:39 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> True. I was just giving alternatives. What if you didn't know the >>> links were there in the first place. >>> >>> Regards, >>> alex, >>> >>> >>> On 15-Jun-09, at 8:14 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> haha. yeah, I think you're right about the setting in safari. but I >>>> still stand by the fact that interacting with the heading and then >>>> VO >>>> spacing on the link would be the fastest way to do it. though both >>>> ways would definitely work. >>>> On 15-Jun-09, at 8:08 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> HI, >>>>> Ms. J. Rathwell and Ms. G. Rathwell: >>>>> >>>>> Both do work. I think there is a setting for setting how tabbing >>>>> works >>>>> inside the Advanced pain of Safari's preferences. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Alex, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 15-Jun-09, at 6:39 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> huh? neither tabbing nor using the links list would show you the >>>>>> link >>>>>> that was inside the heading...well it would, but I'd think it >>>>>> would >>>>>> just be faster to interact with the heading!! lol. silly Alex. I >>>>>> seriously hope this is fixed in snow leopard! >>>>>> On 15-Jun-09, at 6:14 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can either tab or use the links list dialog. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Alex, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 15-Jun-09, at 5:25 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi. When you're on the heading, interact with it, and the link >>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> appear. It can then be selected as usual. >>>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:54 AM, constantlyvaria...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>>>> Now this may just be me not getting a concept right. Probably >>>>>>>>> is. >>>>>>>>> But >>>>>>>>> here goes, anyway. >>>>>>>>> Can somebody please tell me how to recognize a heading which >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> also a >>>>>>>>> link? Perfect example: Google search results. Google renders >>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>> headings which is beautiful because it lets us navigate >>>>>>>>> between >>>>>>>>> results at maximum speed. But VO just says "heading," not >>>>>>>>> "link." >>>>>>>>> To >>>>>>>>> click on one, I have to interact with the heading. This >>>>>>>>> produces >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> signal that VO usually plays when execution of a command is >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> possible, but from then on the item is recognized as a link. >>>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>>> leaves me wondering: Do I have to try to interact with every >>>>>>>>> heading >>>>>>>>> on a website just to make sure there's no link there? >>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for helpful answers, >>>>>>>>> Felix >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Recognizing a heading which is also a link
uh...wow, teasing? Alex knew I was teasing him. we're friends like that. wow. On 16-Jun-09, at 1:59 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > > Jessi, before we go calling people silly, why don't we try this for > ourselves?… > > For the record, Alex is right. > > When you tab, when Safari is set correctly, your focus will stop on > links even if they are shown as headings. You can then press enter if > you like, to activate them. VO space may work as well… > > Please in future, refrain from dis'ing someone on the list? - > especially if you haven't checked out their suggestion?… > > thanks and have a great day!… > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > --- > Follow me on Twitter! > > https://twitter.com/ModelCara > > View my Online Portfolio at: > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > On Jun 15, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > > > huh? neither tabbing nor using the links list would show you the link > that was inside the heading...well it would, but I'd think it would > just be faster to interact with the heading!! lol. silly Alex. I > seriously hope this is fixed in snow leopard! > On 15-Jun-09, at 6:14 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> You can either tab or use the links list dialog. >> >> Regards, >> Alex, >> >> >> On 15-Jun-09, at 5:25 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi. When you're on the heading, interact with it, and the link will >>> appear. It can then be selected as usual. >>> On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:54 AM, constantlyvaria...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> Now this may just be me not getting a concept right. Probably is. >>>> But >>>> here goes, anyway. >>>> Can somebody please tell me how to recognize a heading which is >>>> also a >>>> link? Perfect example: Google search results. Google renders them >>>> as >>>> headings which is beautiful because it lets us navigate between >>>> results at maximum speed. But VO just says "heading," not "link." >>>> To >>>> click on one, I have to interact with the heading. This produces >>>> the >>>> signal that VO usually plays when execution of a command is not >>>> possible, but from then on the item is recognized as a link. This >>>> leaves me wondering: Do I have to try to interact with every >>>> heading >>>> on a website just to make sure there's no link there? >>>> Thanks in advance for helpful answers, >>>> Felix >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hello
hey Chris, glad to hear you're enjoying your mac!! you're in the right place for finding out information. ask away and we'll be happy to answer!!! happy voiceover using lol!! On 4-Jul-09, at 12:04 PM, Chris G wrote: > > Hello, > I am a new member to this list and Hope to learn a lot about my Mac. > > I bought a Mac mini in the beginning of June and really like it. > > Thanks > Chris > > -- > Chris G > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: disclosure triangles? How to open/close them?
hey Jennie, you can open and close disclosure triangles with VO backslash. I have to do that to open the various categories for iTunes radio and it works great!! On 12-Jul-09, at 9:17 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: > > Hi my mac using friends, > all right. I've gone for two, or two and a half weeks not using the > screen at all . Its pretty nice. I have one tiny little trouble > though. That is those disclosure triangles. Namely in iTunes. In my > podcast lists. How the heck do you open them? I tried the VO shif M > thing but I can't figure it out. I did it a few times on the macbook > keyboard but its kind of broken so using wireless full size keyboard. > It is driving me batty and I can't figure out how to open those little > darlings. > Help? > Mucho thanks. :-) > Jenny > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: made the decision
yay this is music to my ears! :D :D now you have no reason to tease me about being obsessed haha. On 15-Jul-09, at 12:41 PM, May and Wynter wrote: > Ok everyone. I have made my decision. got to play the mac > computers today and I absolutely fel in love with them. Of course > when I actually get one it will take more than the 24 hours I needed > to learn my IPhone but I'm looking forward to the new adventure. I > saw the macbook white, the macbook pro, macbook aire and the IMac. I > can definitely say the aire though small was not the one for me. > Now to convince ATBC to get me the Pro. I'll have to buy the IMac > unfortunately on my own which will take a while to save for, cry cry. > > Thanks to the IPhone, I will be a Mac user soon. > > May off to Edmonton Alberta on the 25th. > Am I ready to see some people there? > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: made the decision
lol...how bad I am at it? now we can squeee over our macs lol On 15-Jul-09, at 10:13 PM, May and Wynter wrote: > Heheheheh, I'll just have to find other reasons to tease you. Hmm, > goalball could be a start. > > May off to Edmonton Alberta on the 25th. > Am I ready to see some people there? > - Original Message - > From: Jessi and Goldina > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: made the decision > > yay this is music to my ears! :D :D now you have no reason > to tease me about being obsessed haha. > On 15-Jul-09, at 12:41 PM, May and Wynter wrote: > >> Ok everyone. I have made my decision. got to play the mac >> computers today and I absolutely fel in love with them. Of course >> when I actually get one it will take more than the 24 hours I >> needed to learn my IPhone but I'm looking forward to the new >> adventure. I saw the macbook white, the macbook pro, macbook aire >> and the IMac. I can definitely say the aire though small was not >> the one for me. Now to convince ATBC to get me the Pro. I'll have >> to buy the IMac unfortunately on my own which will take a while to >> save for, cry cry. >> >> Thanks to the IPhone, I will be a Mac user soon. >> >> May off to Edmonton Alberta on the 25th. >> Am I ready to see some people there? >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: made the decision
ahahahaha. I can't physically squeal but squing is fun! lol you'll love it!!! btw what is that drink you always get at starbucks again? I still have yet to try it and I keep forgetting what it is! you can email me off list if you want since we don't want OT posts lol On 16-Jul-09, at 12:04 AM, May And Wynter wrote: > Lol, sorry I don't squeal. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2009-07-15, at 11:16 PM, Jessi and Goldina > wrote: > >> lol...how bad I am at it? now we can squeee over our macs lol >> On 15-Jul-09, at 10:13 PM, May and Wynter wrote: >> >>> Heheheheh, I'll just have to find other reasons to tease you. >>> Hmm, goalball could be a start. >>> >>> May off to Edmonton Alberta on the 25th. >>> Am I ready to see some people there? >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Jessi and Goldina >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: made the decision >>> >>> yay this is music to my ears! :D :D now you have no reason >>> to tease me about being obsessed haha. >>> On 15-Jul-09, at 12:41 PM, May and Wynter wrote: >>> >>>> Ok everyone. I have made my decision. got to play the mac >>>> computers today and I absolutely fel in love with them. Of >>>> course when I actually get one it will take more than the 24 >>>> hours I needed to learn my IPhone but I'm looking forward to the >>>> new adventure. I saw the macbook white, the macbook pro, macbook >>>> aire and the IMac. I can definitely say the aire though small was >>>> not the one for me. Now to convince ATBC to get me the Pro. >>>> I'll have to buy the IMac unfortunately on my own which will take >>>> a while to save for, cry cry. >>>> >>>> Thanks to the IPhone, I will be a Mac user soon. >>>> >>>> May off to Edmonton Alberta on the 25th. >>>> Am I ready to see some people there? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
a spotlight question
hey guys this question isn't really related to voiceover, but I thought I'd ask it here anyway as it relates to the well being of my poor macbook, lol. so, lately every time I try to do a spotlight search, my mac freezes. voiceover says the finder is busy and the fan revs up really loud. even when I go in and relaunch finder, it continues to rev until I shut it down. I'm not sure if these are related, but the fan seems to rev up more frequently lately just randomly when I launch certain apps, like if I'm on skype and I launch mail, it'll start to rev a bit. it only has a gig of ram, but it wasn't doing this before and skype and mail aren't very intense programs I wouldn't think. it's also been running really hot lately. we are having a heat wave here, so that could be part of it, but I just fear I'm gonna burn it out or something!! anyone have any suggestions for keeping my poor macbook baby happier? and fixing this weird spotlight problem? thanks. Jessi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: a spotlight question
hey Felix...thanks!! I'll try this when I get home from work today. hopefully it'll work!! spotlight search isn't something I use too terribly often, but you know...my mac's always gotta work like a mac!! :) thanks for the info. On 4-Aug-09, at 5:50 AM, constantlyvaria...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi! > You may be encountering a problem in connection with a corrupt > Spotlight index. Maybe following the instructions at > http://www.makemacwork.com/repair-spotlight-indexing.htm > will solve the issue. > Greetings, > Felix > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
mail busy?
hey guys so I think my poor macbook is rebelling against me or something lol. I love him to death and am so glad he's not a pc, but he's just acting strange!! first the spotlight issue, which I still haven't been able to get resolved...I looked at the page Felix sent me and my head just about exploded while looking at the instructions...the terminal scares me!! I don't know at all how to use it and if I messed something up, I don't have money to be taking poor mac into the apple store for fixing!! so, I dunno what I'm gonna do there...maybe I'll google for some more Jess friendly instructions? lol. but lately I've also noticed that mail has been busy a lot while writing messages. I just went and emptied my trash folders for both of my addresses and that seems to have fixed it for the moment, but is there a way to back up emails? I'd like to back up my sent messages and then i could empty mail out even more and it would be even less bogged down. I'm way too sentimental and like to keep sent messages, lol. thanks!! Jessi and Goldina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mail busy?
I dunno...I've never used time machine. probably wouldn't hurt, though!! hmmm. On 6-Aug-09, at 10:36 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: > > When you do a backup with Time Machine, does it back up old E-mail > messages? I've never look. In preferences, you can set Mail to empty > deleted messages every two weeks or week or whatever. Find me if > something else is going whacky and maybe we can talk our way through > it. > > > Mark BurningHawk Baxter > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mail busy?
hmmm yeah, I think I remember them talking about that on the mac geek gab podcast. great podcast, btw!! for those who aren't subscribed I definitely recommend that one!! does superduper back up old email messages? where do I get it from and if it's not free, which I'm assuming it isn't, how much is it? On 6-Aug-09, at 10:46 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > Hi Jessi, as far as I know, TIme Machine does back up old emails, > but getting to them, and being able to restore them is a little > tricky. Haven't been able to figure that out. What you might look > into is getting superduper to back up your stuff. > On Aug 7, 2009, at 1:24 AM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> >> hey guys >> >> so I think my poor macbook is rebelling against me or something >> lol. I >> love him to death and am so glad he's not a pc, but he's just acting >> strange!! first the spotlight issue, which I still haven't been able >> to get resolved...I looked at the page Felix sent me and my head just >> about exploded while looking at the instructions...the terminal >> scares >> me!! I don't know at all how to use it and if I messed something >> up, I >> don't have money to be taking poor mac into the apple store for >> fixing!! so, I dunno what I'm gonna do there...maybe I'll google for >> some more Jess friendly instructions? lol. >> >> but lately I've also noticed that mail has been busy a lot while >> writing messages. I just went and emptied my trash folders for both >> of >> my addresses and that seems to have fixed it for the moment, but is >> there a way to back up emails? I'd like to back up my sent messages >> and then i could empty mail out even more and it would be even less >> bogged down. I'm way too sentimental and like to keep sent messages, >> lol. >> >> thanks!! >> Jessi and Goldina >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Flash content, who do we contact?
I agree. I'm getting annoyed with the lack of flash. I once emailed apple and asked about the inaccessability of live journal voice posts, which use flash, and they told me to contact adobe. On 13-Aug-09, at 1:11 PM, Marie Howarth wrote: > > OK, I am no expert on these matters so I am coming to the list to ask > the questions. Who are we to contact about the lack of accessibility > with flash content? Apple or Adobe? I really am getting tired of not > being able to use flash content and it is actually slightly better on > the other OS but no where near as good as it once was. I used to be > able to use flash content around version eight I believe it was but > sadly we all had to upgrade to the really bad version nine which > caused me to lose any hope of using flash. in the latest version with > Jaws, although nothing is labeled, it seems a little better. so > please, who do we talk too? I really feel this would help us all and > if anyone else wants to use flash, let's email the relevant people. :) > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: clean install or upgrade?
I plan to do a clean install also and plan to record it too. I'm not sure if I'll spread it around, I guess it depends on how well I feel it goes, lol. this is my first time ever installing an OS on any platform though, so I thought it should be recorded haha. can someone explain the steps for doing a "clean install?" I'm sure it's been discussed to death but I've been away at my cabin and had about 2000 messages in my inbox so didn't pay much attention as I rapidly deleted, lol. I assume a clean install means deleting leopard and all other data? which would of course mean backing up first...I can't use time machine cuz it won't work with my external drive without me deleting everything off it and I'm so not doing that, so I plan to just copy and paste all my data and stuff over. I guess I'll lose my emails, but maybe there's some way other than time machine of archiving them before I do this? and now I'll stop rambling, I'm sure I'm not making much sense. it's time for bed and book for me. but I just wanna make sure I have all the steps in place for when the big moment comes!!! I'm pretty excited about it!! Jessi and Goldina On 27-Aug-09, at 9:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > I would reccomend that you do a clean install, it may take a bit more > time to reinstall everything, but it's usually more reliable, > certainly that's what I'm going to do, and I plan on recording mac pod > cast number 10, dedicated to the install of snow leopard, so stay > tuned for that. > On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:17 AM, a radix wrote: > >> Hello, i am ordering sl via the phone now. I wonder, is an upgrade >> (so not a totally clean install) recommended? I know it is a VERY >> BAD IDEA on a iwndows machine but i wonder if it is ok on a mac? I >> would actually like it if my current settings could be used. >> Greetings, Anouk >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A Quick Introduction from Mark with Snow Leopard
hey Mark, good to see you out here! I've seen you on the iPhone list though I rarely post there cuz I don't have an iPhone yet. I enjoy your posts though, you have a fun way of saying things. I've been a mac user for a little over a year though and am so glad you made the jump! the mac really is awesome and accessible!! I haven't upgraded to snow leopard yet, waiting for that stray kitty to arrive on my doorstep lol. but when it does, you can bet it'll be here to stay!! I can't wait to enjoy all the new accessibility features!! take care and keep enjoying your mac! and don't be shy, the list is for asking questions!! Jessi and Goldina On 29-Aug-09, at 10:54 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Mike, > > You got me smiling, buddy. Yes, Snow Leopard is on the move, to be > sure. > > As difficult as it is for me to believe, I find that I am amazed at > the > level of accessibility of Snow Leopard. > > For the first time, in a mighty long while, I am actually eager to > use a > computer, once again. > > As I have said on many occasions, it's a wonderful time to be blind > or low > vision; and I wouldn't miss it for the world. (Smile) > > I look forward to our next conversation, Mike. > > Your Partner in Crime, > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:01 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A Quick Introduction from Mark with Snow Leopard > > > Hey Mark, that's great, I figured you might get a mac sooner or later, > and I think you will be a great adition to the mac community. When you > can, give itunes a try, you may like it better than in windows. The > windows screen companies better be ware, the snow leopard is coming > for them, lol. > On Aug 29, 2009, at 2:38 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> My name is Mark Taylor. >> >> As an iPhone user, I decided, last week, to purchase a MacBook Pro >> 13 inch >> notebook. >> >> I am happy to report, that today I was successful in performing a >> clean >> install of Snow Leopard after first removing Leopard. I also added >> an >> additional 2 gigs of RAM to the notebook for a total of 4 gigs. >> >> Aside from keeping careful track of the 10 screws that must be >> removed in >> order to install the RAM, the upgrade procedure was fairly >> painless. Note, >> if any of you wish to upgrade your RAM, be sure to take note of the >> fact >> that there are different size screws that must be replaced >> correctly. I >> swear, I've never seen such short little screws in my entire life. >> (Smile) >> >> >> I must say that the synergy between Snow Leopard and the iPhone 3GS >> via the >> new multi-touch track pad is amazing. In fact, I can't seem to wipe >> this >> grin off of my face as I continue to explore this "brave new world." >> >> Anyway, I am glad to be on board and am looking forward to exchanging >> information with you. >> >> Most Sincerely, >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: playing avi files in quicktime
I'm not sure that quicktime does. I usually use vlc media player to play my avi files. it works great. On 30-Aug-09, at 11:00 AM, a radix wrote: > Hello, i am trying to play an avi file in quicktime but dont hear a > sound, doesnt quicktime support this filetype? > Greetings, Anouk > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snowleopard, Safari, and Voiceover
hmm, this is odd. cuz didn't it say somewhere that VO was supposed to act faster on webpages with lots of content? strange it's the opposite? On 30-Aug-09, at 1:52 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > > Using Google, I have always had 100 search results per page and it > worked just fine with vo and leopard. Now, anything over 10 and vo > navigation slows to a crawl. I'm referring to moving around with the > vo cursor. I consider it bairly usable with 10. I'm using group. > This tells me that any web page with a lot of content will have series > problems using vo. I was wondering if anybody else can confirm this. > > > I also want to confirm the choppy speech in mail, but I've also > noticed it everywhere. It seems to be most noticeable in mail > however. > > Thanks. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
gmail and sl? and importing addressbook contacts?
hey guys!! this is the first real email i've sent using sl that wasn't a test, lol. yay! installation went well, I recorded my adventures if anyone wants to hear, lol. I'm really happy over all, the new web stuff loos great! it's much more snappy! but gmail isn't working so hot. I set it up with all the settings suggested on gmail's website. I've tried both pop and imap. I've removed and re-added the accounts several times. all the settings are as they should be. right now I have it set as imap, and one of my two gmail accounts downloads messages fine, which is the one this list uses, but my one I use for personal emails doesn't receive at all. and when this list mail one downloads, it seems to download several copies of the same message. I really wish I could use pop, I'm more familiar with it, but it didn't work at all. so I ran out of ideas! pop seems to be broken in mail 4.0 and sl unless anyone has any suggestions for making it work properly?I'd just really like to be able to recrive and send messages from both my accounts like I could before. has anyone had any of these problems and gotten gmail to work successfully? also, before Installed sl, I copied my user folder from leopard onto my external hard drive so I'd be able to do a clean install. turns out I wasn't able to copy it back cuz the drive was formatted for windows, I used it with my old windows computers before I switched. I didn't know this would be an issue, but I got around it by copying my documents and downloads folders, where most of my data was stored, to the new user account in sl. but how do I get my addresses back? thanks for all your help. these few little things are making sl a little bit of a less enjoyable experience. Jessi and Goldina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
getting old addressbook contacts back?
hey guys I know I asked this last night with my gmail message, but I'm not sure if that message went through and now my gmail issues seem to be fixed knock on wood!! so my next issue, I'm trying to get all my addressbook contacts back. before I installed SL I copied my old leopard user folder to my external drive thinking I'd just be able to import it all back in during the SL setup process. unfortunately I couldn't do this cuz the drive was formatted for windows, and I didn't know that would make a difference but clearly it did. so I got around it by just copying all my data over into the correct folders in the new user folder on sl. but now I wanna get my old addressbook contacts back. I'd like to get my old emails back too, but I'll start with addressbook contacts. how would I go about doing this? I assume it's possible, cuz if you can get stuff off a pc onto a mac then you must be able to import stuff from a drive that's formatted for windows. thanks. Jessi and Goldina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: brailledispaly does not display all text
hmmm, I don't know why this would be, but maybe try interacting with the table and then seeing if it shows up on your display? On 2009-09-01, at 2:03 PM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hello all, i just wanted to check my sent items but if i hit tab from > the main list of folders to go to the list of messages and then either > arrow up/down or vo up/down there is nothing displayed on my braille > display, if i use speech it reads normally. This does not happen in > the inbox so I am not sure what is going on. > Greetings, Anouk > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: reading help tags manuallly?
yep, you can do this now with VO shift h. On 2009-09-02, at 12:03 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hi, i think in leopard this was done via vo-h but this now brings up > the vo help menu. Is it still possible to read help tags manually? > Greetings, Anouk > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
copying text from mail?
hey guys, has the commands for copying text out of mail changed? I noticed that I can no longer turn selection mode on, select something and copy it in SL? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: copying text from mail?
hmm. I never had it in leopard, I dunno what causes it. it's weird!! maybe the way emails are formatted or something? On 2009-09-02, at 4:31 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: > > Hello; I occasionally have that problem with mail in regular lepard, > and i can usually get around it by clicking reply and then selecting > text from the edit field. After i do my cut and paste, I close the > draft and press don't save. Hope that helps, Max > On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> >> hey guys, >> >> has the commands for copying text out of mail changed? I noticed that >> I can no longer turn selection mode on, select something and copy it >> in SL? >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow leopard clean install and restoring home folder from time machine
be careful though, if your drive if for whatever reason formatted for windows, there doesn't seem to be a way to import your data back without manually copying and pasting the folders. this is my dilemma right now! still trying to get stuff back. On 2009-09-03, at 2:40 AM, John JD Denning wrote: > > Yes that is true. You can choose time Machine or a vackup. I have > done three like that now. Woorked great. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:14, Simon Cavendish > wrote: > >> >> When I was listening to Mike Arigo's podcast on Installing SL from >> scratch, having eraseed the hard drive, there seemed to be an option >> during the installation to retrieve one's home folder from Time >> Machine. Is it true? Does that mean that during the installation you >> can choose this option and copy back into Snow Leopard your home >> folder with all your applications and other files? Canit be safely >> done with voiceover and wirelessly? It's probably a dumb question >> from >> a lay person but any info would be appreciated. I have my Time >> Machine >> backing up my data regularly. Otherwise if you wanted to do a clean >> install, how would you bring all your personal folder data back >> without having to reinstall all your applications yet again? >> >> Best wishes >> >> Simon >> >>> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: male in snowleopard and gmail
I was definitely having major gmail issues when I first installed SL and I tried so many things that I'm not sure how they finally got fixed, lol. my issues were that I could send mail fine, but I'd set up my two accounts in mail and one would receive and the other wouldn't. I think what I ended up doing that fixed it was I deleted the "mail" folder out of my library and then reloaded mail, and it looked like I'd never launched it before. then I put both accounts back in and made sure all the settings and port numbers were correct and they eventually worked. it was quite a process though!! I hope you can get yours fixed!! Jessi and Goldina On 2009-09-04, at 8:11 AM, matthew Campbell wrote: > > Hi list I'm now running snowleopard and I've just upgraded my > accounts. They aren't working. > I've tried re adding them but nothing works. > Is anyone else having issues with gmail and apple male 4? > Any help would be awesome. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
no longer able to find search results with mobile facebook?
hey guys I'm not sure if this is a facebook change or an sl change, but I just tried to search for and add a friend on facebook with the mobile site. it said it showed two search results, but wouldn't let me see them. so I went to the regular facebook site and did the same search and was this time able to find my friend when I clicked add as friend link, voiceover didn't do anything though. I tried several times and still nothing. I hope I didn't just try to add them a bunch of times, I'll feel real silly then lol!! but has something changed on the mobiel site where you can no longer actually see our search results or is this a bug in SL accessibility? thanks Jessi and Goldina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
facebook?
hey guys dunno if my messages are getting through, I never get any responses lol. I don't get any failure to send, but still. anyone know why I can't search the facebook mobile site? it'll say it found results, but then there's nowhere to see the results. is this a change to facebook or to how it looks in sl? is there something different I have to do to search the facebook mobile site? or is no one else having this problem? thanks. Jessi and Goldina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: status, name, etc?
hey Will, I recorded a podcast type thing about changing the way links are read in safari, changing the order of the content, status, type, etc. I only did it with the links, but I'm sure it would be similar in the other verbosity options in that table. I can send it to you off list if you want. On 2009-09-08, at 6:32 AM, william lomas wrote: > > hi the voice over help does not seem to be clear on all > the new > verbosity options in snowleopard particularly about the customizing > what we hear for different elements, such as state then name etc. or > is it just me? > Will > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: getting an individuals email address
hmm, this doesn't seem to work in snow leopard. I've just been trying to read the email address and remember what it is, but there has to be an easier way in sl! On 2009-09-09, at 2:22 AM, Christina wrote: > > Hi, > > I miss the menu button. However, if you select the text with the > name/ > e-mail address in the from area then you can use vo plus shift plus > m. At least that worked for me. I do not know of an easier way to > select the text other than to use vo plus enter to start highlighting/ > selecting the text then using vo plus enter to end selecting the > text. Then you can use vo plus shift plus m. > > I hope that helps. > > Christina > On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > >> >> Interact with the message content area and move the vo cursor over >> the >> message headers and enter act with it. Or, >> if you are reading a message, stop interacting with the body text and >> move vo up to the headers. >> In leopard, vo saw the address as a menu button. I've just noticed >> that now it doesn't. Nor does vo-space, or vo-shft-m work on it. >> Now >> you have to route the mouse to the address and shft-click to get the >> menu. >> On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:21 PM, anouk radix wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello, not sure if this has been covered before, but i would like to >>> get a persons emal address who posts to the macvisionarie slist, i >>> nwindows you can do this by standing on the name and then getting >>> the >>> ctrl-f10 menu and doing settings. Can i do this on the mac? >>> Greetings, Anouk >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Apple Media Event 9/9/09
I dunno why everyone is talking about voiceover on the nano as if it's a new thing lol. I wonder what upgrades are made to voiceover on the nano? On 2009-09-09, at 2:13 PM, Maccessibility wrote: > > Apple Media Event 9/9/09 > > Today, Apple announced details of iPhone OS 3.1, iTunes 9, and new > models in > their iPod lineups. > The iPhone OS 3.1 details are scarce as yet, but the update includes > pre-cut > ring tones from the major record labels. > iTunes 9, the latest version of Apple's popular media management > software, > comes with a plethora of new features, including [...] > > You can read the rest of this news item at: > http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/09/09/apple-media-event-9909/ > > The Mac-cessibility Network > "...it's all within our reach..." > http://maccessibility.net > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Apple Media Event 9/9/09
oh, okay. I gotcha. the nano has a built in TTS engine. what voice is it? I suspect it's the same one as on the iPhone? and then the international ones are probably the same as the shuffle? that's really cool!! I'd really like to see one of these! i'm curious how the video camera fits in cuz the unit is already so small!! On 2009-09-09, at 2:25 PM, Esther wrote: > > Hi, > > I imagine since they said it would be like on the Shuffle, there will > be international voices included. Also, although the Mac-cessibility > News didn't mention it, along with the video recording camera and > voice recording with built in mic, the new nano is supposed to have FM > radio. > > from the ilounge live coverage page on the new Nanos: > > 10:58 AM: One more thing... Video camera. YouTube now has 1b video > streams a day. They're being created by Flip Video, he shows... Flip > sells a 4GB model for $149. Apple wants in on the market. 8GB - you > get it for "Free" by adding it to the iPod nano. New nano is glossy. > Looks just like the pictures we posted months ago on iLounge. Speaker > now built in as well. Retained the small size - 6.2mm. Now good is it? > Video looks a lot like iPhone 3GS video. The nano pictures are on our > Flickr account. (See link above.) One click to send to YouTube from a > computer. Looks to be 640x480. Nano's screen is now wide. 100 million > units sold. By far the most popular music player in the world. > VoiceOver is in there, "same as the iPod shuffle," plus Genius Mixes. > Now will have an FM radio built in. And voice recorder app is built in > with built-in mik, plus built-in pedometer. You can now sync up to > Nike > + with your pedometer data. Larger 2.2 display. Polished anodized > aluminum. > > > No word on whether VoiceOver is in the new iPod Touch models, although > I suspect it is. And apparently no video camera for the Touch. At > least nothing mentioned. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> >> I dunno why everyone is talking about voiceover on the nano as if >> it's >> a new thing lol. I wonder what upgrades are made to voiceover on the >> nano? >> On 2009-09-09, at 2:13 PM, Maccessibility wrote: >> >>> >>> Apple Media Event 9/9/09 >>> >>> Today, Apple announced details of iPhone OS 3.1, iTunes 9, and new >>> models in >>> their iPod lineups. >>> The iPhone OS 3.1 details are scarce as yet, but the update includes >>> pre-cut >>> ring tones from the major record labels. >>> iTunes 9, the latest version of Apple's popular media management >>> software, >>> comes with a plethora of new features, including [...] >>> >>> You can read the rest of this news item at: >>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/09/09/apple-media-event-9909/ >>> >>> The Mac-cessibility Network >>> "...it's all within our reach..." >>> http://maccessibility.net >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: getting an individuals email address
thanks!! :) I'm so glad I know how to do this again!! yay!!! On 2009-09-09, at 11:55 AM, John André Netland wrote: > > Hi Jessi, > > If you focus on the header, interact with it and focus on the from > address, and press VO-shift-space, you will hear "menu" and can arrow > down to copy the address etc. etc. Just remember to route the mouse to > your VO cursor with VO-command-F5 before you click, since I suppose > you have set mouse cursor to ignore VO cursor to avoid the sub menu > issue. > > I tested this with a message from you now, and it works just fine in > SL. > > Take care, > John André > > > On 9. sep. 2009, at 14.41, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> >> hmm, this doesn't seem to work in snow leopard. I've just been trying >> to read the email address and remember what it is, but there has to >> be >> an easier way in sl! >> On 2009-09-09, at 2:22 AM, Christina wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I miss the menu button. However, if you select the text with the >>> name/ >>> e-mail address in the from area then you can use vo plus shift plus >>> m. At least that worked for me. I do not know of an easier way to >>> select the text other than to use vo plus enter to start >>> highlighting/ >>> selecting the text then using vo plus enter to end selecting the >>> text. Then you can use vo plus shift plus m. >>> >>> I hope that helps. >>> >>> Christina >>> On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Interact with the message content area and move the vo cursor over >>>> the >>>> message headers and enter act with it. Or, >>>> if you are reading a message, stop interacting with the body text >>>> and >>>> move vo up to the headers. >>>> In leopard, vo saw the address as a menu button. I've just noticed >>>> that now it doesn't. Nor does vo-space, or vo-shft-m work on it. >>>> Now >>>> you have to route the mouse to the address and shft-click to get >>>> the >>>> menu. >>>> On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:21 PM, anouk radix wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello, not sure if this has been covered before, but i would like >>>>> to >>>>> get a persons emal address who posts to the macvisionarie slist, i >>>>> nwindows you can do this by standing on the name and then getting >>>>> the >>>>> ctrl-f10 menu and doing settings. Can i do this on the mac? >>>>> Greetings, Anouk >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
itunes busy when skipping through songs?
hey guys noticed a little thing with iTunes nine. when I try to skip quickly through my library, iTunes seems to be busy for a few seconds before skipping through to the next song. it's not a huge deal, but kind of annoying when skipping through songs! anyone else notice this? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
previewing songs in the itunes store?
hey guys another itunes nine bug, they seem to have broken the ability to preview songs in the store!! there's an image there if you look down the store page, it's before each song and it says preview, but if you VO space on it or interact with it and then VO space or press enter, nothing seems to work to activate those! so I'm not sure how you'd go about previewing something!! anyone else noticing this? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: previewing songs in the itunes store?
oh. pressing enter where? cuz I pressed on the song title and it didn't do anything. I miss the old songs table!! On 2009-09-09, at 9:04 PM, John André Netland wrote: > > Hi, > > REcently, pressing enter or play will preview the song. The image is > just to tell you there is only a preview available until you have paid > for the song YaY! > It's only rock & roll you know. ;-) > > Take care, > John André > > > On 9. sep. 2009, at 23.32, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> >> hey guys >> another itunes nine bug, they seem to have broken the ability to >> preview songs in the store!! there's an image there if you look down >> the store page, it's before each song and it says preview, but if you >> VO space on it or interact with it and then VO space or press enter, >> nothing seems to work to activate those! so I'm not sure how you'd go >> about previewing something!! anyone else noticing this? >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: previewing songs in the itunes store?
I didn't even find the table of songs. I thought they got rid of it!! On 2009-09-09, at 9:47 PM, Scott Rutkowski wrote: > > Hi there. > > Do a vo shift space on the preview immage and the preview actually > will > play. > > I hope people email > accessibil...@apple.com > when they find bugs. > > Another interesting bug is when you find the table of songs on an > album and > you can't interact with the table to vo up and down it and navigate > the > table like in itunes 8.21. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jessi and Goldina" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:32 AM > Subject: previewing songs in the itunes store? > > >> >> hey guys >> another itunes nine bug, they seem to have broken the ability to >> preview songs in the store!! there's an image there if you look down >> the store page, it's before each song and it says preview, but if you >> VO space on it or interact with it and then VO space or press enter, >> nothing seems to work to activate those! so I'm not sure how you'd go >> about previewing something!! anyone else noticing this? >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
sharing itunes on twitter and facebook?
is this new feature in itunes nine accessible? I was talking to someone tonight who uses a pc with itunes, and they were playing with the store and jaws was speaking links to share findings on the store on twitter and facebook. I didn't see this option on the mac side, but I assume it's there somewhere? on the pc version it was on the main store page with the albums, but is it somewhere else on the mac version? or do we not have access to it?it just looks like a cool feature. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: sharing itunes on twitter and facebook?
thanks, glad it's not just me!! I'll email them and let them know about it. On 2009-09-10, at 4:45 AM, Scott Rutkowski wrote: > > Hi there. > > From what I read in the help file near the buy album button there's > meant to > be an arrow or dropdown that lets you choose to send the album info to > twitter or facebook. > I myself can't find the feature either so we should email > accessibil...@apple.com > and let them know the feature can't be used. > > If anyone has anymore info on this feature and gets it working, > please let > us all know. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jessi and Goldina" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:12 PM > Subject: sharing itunes on twitter and facebook? > > >> >> is this new feature in itunes nine accessible? I was talking to >> someone tonight who uses a pc with itunes, and they were playing with >> the store and jaws was speaking links to share findings on the store >> on twitter and facebook. I didn't see this option on the mac side, >> but >> I assume it's there somewhere? on the pc version it was on the main >> store page with the albums, but is it somewhere else on the mac >> version? or do we not have access to it?it just looks like a cool >> feature. >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: so slow
I find voiceover to be a tad bit more sluggish when arrowing through when quicknav is on, but maybe that's just cuz my mac only has a gig of ram. I'm not sure why quicknav would make a difference, and really it's only like a milisecond slower, but I notice it. other than that I don't find it slow. On 2009-09-10, at 12:31 PM, william lomas wrote: > > hi why is voiceover so damn slow now when arrowing through mail > messages? > I may go back to leopard it is so painstakingly clumsy at navigating > with the usual arrow keys through characters in a message > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
