Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App
I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I am on. The concern is about the destination. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden wrote: > > Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not trust > any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the street you are > currently on. GPS is not that accurate. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 28 Aug 2016, at 14:05, gs wrote: >> >> Hmm. Let me know when the iOS version announces the side of the street. This >> is definitely a deal breaker for me. >> On Aug 21, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >> It's designed for blind users, but currently it only works in the United >> States and Canada. >>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> I didn’t know that this app was available for the Iphone. >>> Is this an app thats designed for blind users or is it some other features >>> that people like with this app. >>> /A On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:14, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello Mark. Just in case, you sent to the Macvisionary list. Did you mean to do that or did you mean to send it to the GPS list? I knew you’d get it and I’m really glad you did as I was going to ask you to do that. Kawal. > On 20 Aug 2016, at 15:38, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I must say that I am extremely impressed with the Nearby Explorer, for > iOS, GPS navigation app, developed by the American Printing House for the > Blind. > > So, for your convenience, in either enjoying the app or determining > whether or not to purchase it, I am pasting in the complete text of its > user manual, below my signature line. > > A couple of things to note, however: > > 1. > Currently, this app only supports navigation in the United States and > Canada. > > 2. > At the time of this post, the cost of the app is, in the U.S. App Store > anyway, $79.99. > > 3. > In order to successfully install the app, which includes its built-in map > of North America, you must have at least 4GB of free space available on > your iOS device. > > 4. > The direct URL to the online user manual, which includes a in-page > hyperlinked table of contents, omitted in this post, is: > http://tech.aph.org/ne/index.html > > 5. > I have not edited the contents of this text in any way. I simply copied > the text from the website; therefore some of the formatting may not be > consistent with the HTML version of the manual. > > Finally, to you old-timers out there, I am delighted to report that this > app reminds me a great deal of the groundbreaking, GPS navigation > solution for the blind and low vision that started it all; I am > referring, of course, to Code Factory’s Mobile Geo. > > Okay, on to the show. > > Enjoy and Happy & Safe Traveling, > > Mark > > Nearby Explorer for iOS User's Guide > > Copyright 2016 > > American Printing House for the Blind, Inc. > > 2016/8/19 > > Introduction > > When sighted people use a global positioning system (GPS), their main > interests are getting directions and/or guidance to a destination. Blind > users appreciate these features as well, but generally desire more > orientation queues than are available on commercial GPS apps. Nearby > Explorer is a GPS app designed to provide these queues. When combined > with an accessible interface and customizable, current information about > points of interest (POIs), the tools provide a meaningful picture of the > vicinity and its characteristics. > > Nearby Explorer works by: > 1.displaying a screen containing several geography-related categories, > letting you turn on the ones of interest (announced as you move). You can > put the phone to sleep and continue receiving feedback or examine the > values on the screen. > 2.letting you orient the phone in various positions to get more targeted > information about: ◦points of interest (POIs), > ◦direction and streets, and > ◦the closest point of interest. > > 3.providing descriptive details such as: ◦intersection configurations as > you approach, > ◦transit stop next time, direction of travel, and head sign for systems > in over 30 metro areas, > ◦distance and adjustable direction to POIs, and > ◦adjustable scope for prominence and proximity for POI announcements. > > > Features > > The information that Nearby Explorer provides helps the blind traveler > stay oriented. It shows surrounding and approaching streets, businesses, >
Re: Free accessable rss reader on the Mac.
Vienna is not a paid app and it is perfectly accessible. On Jan 22, 2014, at 10:21 AM, isaac wrote: I checked arround applevis and the rss news readers including read kit are payed apps. On Jan 22, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Daniel Hawkins wrote: > hello Listers, > > I have NewsIsy on my iPhone and I’m am using Feedly. However, I want to use > the Mac to also read up my RSS feeds. So does anyone know any free accessable > RSS readers on the Mac? I know CueFeed is accessable but last I checked it > costs $30. > > Also, on Safari, there is a button, “add to reading list” does anyone know > what that does? That is not the same as a Rss reader? > > Thanks! > Daniel Hawkins > - Posted from my Macbook Pro > > 2012 15in. Macbook Pro > 2.3 Quad-core i7 > 4GB DDR3 > 500GB HDD > > Dual Boot: > Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Free accessable rss reader on the Mac.
You are wrong about it but it is a problem. It has been a couple of months since I have done it and I apologize for not recalling how I got around it. It was a pain but once you get it setup it works very well. I know this seems frustrating but it really is an excellent RSS reader. I’ll try to remember how to deal with the preferences issue and write back if I figure it out. On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:29 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: Ok just installed Vienna, but as soon as I go to the preferences in Vienna and VO space bar on the sync tab focus still stays on the general tab, and won’t change to the sync tab, so it looks like the only preferences you can change in Vienna with VO are the general ones. Please let me know if I am wrong about this, and how you select the sync tab in preferences. Thanks On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote: > Vienna is not a paid app and it is perfectly accessible. > > On Jan 22, 2014, at 10:21 AM, isaac wrote: > > I checked arround applevis and the rss news readers including read kit are > payed apps. > On Jan 22, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Daniel Hawkins > wrote: > >> hello Listers, >> >> I have NewsIsy on my iPhone and I’m am using Feedly. However, I want to use >> the Mac to also read up my RSS feeds. So does anyone know any free >> accessable RSS readers on the Mac? I know CueFeed is accessable but last I >> checked it costs $30. >> >> Also, on Safari, there is a button, “add to reading list” does anyone know >> what that does? That is not the same as a Rss reader? >> >> Thanks! >> Daniel Hawkins >> - Posted from my Macbook Pro >> >> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro >> 2.3 Quad-core i7 >> 4GB DDR3 >> 500GB HDD >> >> Dual Boot: >> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Free accessable rss reader on the Mac.
Press VO Shift Space on the desired preference tab to select it with cursor tracking enabled. On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:29 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: Ok just installed Vienna, but as soon as I go to the preferences in Vienna and VO space bar on the sync tab focus still stays on the general tab, and won’t change to the sync tab, so it looks like the only preferences you can change in Vienna with VO are the general ones. Please let me know if I am wrong about this, and how you select the sync tab in preferences. Thanks On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote: > Vienna is not a paid app and it is perfectly accessible. > > On Jan 22, 2014, at 10:21 AM, isaac wrote: > > I checked arround applevis and the rss news readers including read kit are > payed apps. > On Jan 22, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Daniel Hawkins > wrote: > >> hello Listers, >> >> I have NewsIsy on my iPhone and I’m am using Feedly. However, I want to use >> the Mac to also read up my RSS feeds. So does anyone know any free >> accessable RSS readers on the Mac? I know CueFeed is accessable but last I >> checked it costs $30. >> >> Also, on Safari, there is a button, “add to reading list” does anyone know >> what that does? That is not the same as a Rss reader? >> >> Thanks! >> Daniel Hawkins >> - Posted from my Macbook Pro >> >> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro >> 2.3 Quad-core i7 >> 4GB DDR3 >> 500GB HDD >> >> Dual Boot: >> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Can't Stop the Collapsed Disclosure Triangle message in mail
I also achieved the desired result (not to have the disclosure triangle spoken at all in Mail) in 10.9.1. However, I am also experiencing the extremely annoying phenomenon where it is spoken in Mail no matter where I set it in Verbosity in 10.9.2. This is extremely disappointing as other things in Mail seem to be working a little better in 10.9.2. On Mar 4, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: It's set to low in custom verbosity settings so is not spoken in any app other than Mail. It wasn't spoken in Mail either, prior to 10.9.2. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 4/03/2014, at 5:53 pm, Daniel Hawkins wrote: > When you said you have the setting turned off, what do you mean about that? > > Thanks! > Daniel Hawkins > - Posted from my Macbook Pro > > On Mar 3, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > >> Thanks Traci, I'll report this as a bug. It's certainly a time waster. >> Jonathan Mosen >> Mosen Consulting >> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >> http://Mosen.org >> >> On 4/03/2014, at 7:04 am, Traci Duncan wrote: >> >>> Yes, I've noticed the same issue and haven't found a work around. It is >>> quite annoying. I had this setting turned off as well. >>> >>> Traci >>> >>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera >>> wrote: >>> i dont see the colapse disclosure your talking, can you be more specific On 02 Mar 2014, at 09:05 am, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > Hi all, in the VoiceOver Preferences under verbosity, I've unchecked the > option to hear the "collapsed Disclosure Triangle" message, which is just > hugely verbose. > It seems to work everywhere else, but as of 10.9.2, I can't stop the > message in Mail. When you group by conversation, this is a lot of > verbiage. > Is anyone else seeing this, and if so, has anyone found a work-around? > Thanks a lot. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Mac
Re: Can I merge multiple HTML files into one file.
Annie - I wouldn't buy a tool to do that. But it may depend on how many files you mean. You can open the files in an editor and just concatenate them by saving the entire file. A lot of modern word processors will open HTML files and you can simply open multiple files and then save them as a single file. It is also possible to approach this from other angles depending on your goals. I don't know much regarding how to go about handling something like this with the Mac but used to deal with it in Windows. Nevertheless, this is a pretty simple thing, and I wouldn't think it would be necessary to spend any money to accomplish it. Maybe it would be good to know more about what you need to do. On Mar 16, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi. I need to merge a lot of HTML files into one file. Can anyone tell me how I can do it. I found a tool on the internet but a rather expensive tool for that in my opinion, but if there is no other way to go, I may buy it. Thank you an advance. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Syncing New RSS feeds with Vienna and The old reader
Teresa - Copy the link to the RSS feed to the clipboard and then use the Command N keystroke in Vienna to subscribe to a feed, or choose New subscription... from the File Menu. Make sure the "Subscribe in Open Reader" check box is checked and your subscription will be added to both Vienna and theOldReader. On May 9, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: hi, all, When I follow an RSS link, Vienna opens. the feed is added locally, but i would like to add it via The Old Reader, and then use Vienna to read it. How can I do this? I already have the Old Reader specified as my open reader site, and I've exported a .opnl file with ten local feeds already. I hope i don't have to keep doing this in order to sync. Am I missing something? thanks, Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: unable to update to mavericks 10.9.3
Same for me with regard to having to turn off VO to get the setup assistant to focus properly. On May 15, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi there You may, maybe, have done what I almost did. When I did the update, VoiceOver came on, but then it wouldn't talk any more after it said the welcome message. However, I got desperate and turned VoiceOver off and back on; that was when I discovered that I was in the setup section. So I had to VO and right arrow to the place to hear the percentage of that. Once it got past the setup, and that took about five minutes, then my computer worked fine. However, guys, my Focus 14 still won't pair with my Mac, even after the update. I am writing this on my Braille Edge 40 which still works with my computer just fine. Now I am going to have to call Apple and find out if this update was supposed to fix this thing. Gigi On May 15, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi! > If you go to menu extras either with VO+MM or Control+f8 then arrow over to > the users menu and VO+space on it you should see what if any other users are > logged in! > It might be at some point you've opened a guest log in! > Anyway something to look at! > HTH Colin > > "The Avalanche has started! > Its to late for the pebbles to vote!" > [Kosh Babylon 5 2258] > > On 15 May 2014, at 20:13, isaac wrote: > >> For some reason or another after I go to apple menu. >> Then I go to software update. >> Then I choose update all. >> Then I choose download and restart. >> After that I choose install all available updates. >> Then the mac says multiple users logged in but the weird thing is I am the >> only one that is using this computer. >> How do I resolve this problem. >> isaac >> isaac.heb...@gmail.com >> Skype gold_wildcat >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Using Vienna help
Make sure to use the vertical layout. Choose Layout from the View Menu and set it to vertical. You should be able to use the up and down arrows in the Folder List, press the Right Arrow when the desired folder is located, then review the article list using up and down arrows without having to interact with anything. If you choose to use VO J at that point, it should switch between the folder list, article list and the HTML area that displays the article depending on how much is downloaded. Pressing Enter should open the article. I find what works best is to set it so that the article opens in the external browser. Set this in Preferences/General. I would have given up a long while back if I had to use the menu to open an article. I think I posted a lot of other things I found on the other list. Well, not too much more but. On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Catherine Turner wrote: Hi, Can anyone who uses Vienna as an RSS reader help me figure out an efficient/convenient way of navigating around? At the moment I'm picking a feed from the table of feeds, moving across and interacting with/looking through the articles table; when I find an article I want to read I go into the context menu and pick "open article page". This opens the article in a separate tab and I need to go and find that tab, select it, then find the html content, interact with and read it. Someone on another list suggested I should be able to do a VO j when in the articles list which should jump me to the html content. I had this working at one point but it's not now. When Ihˆ press VO j I get jumped in between the articles table and the feeds table. I don't know what's different between when this was working and now that it's not. Has anyone any suggestions on how to move a bit quicker? Would love to hear how other people are using vienna. Thanks, Catherine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Using Vienna help
Catherine - If you are happy with what you are doing, by all means stick with it. The reason I prefer to have the articles open in an external browser is so that I can quickly enable the reader with Command Shift R if it is available, thus saving me some time trying to find the text of articles in those sometimes very busy news sites. But I have experimented with things to try to duplicate what is happening to you and I guess there are some advantages. One thing that might solve the issue with getting back to the article list is to be sure not to have more than one article tab open. Once you are done with an article, press Command W to close it and I think you should land in the article list. But that may also depend on the layout. On Jun 24, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Catherine Turner wrote: Hi Jeff, Thanks for the info, and everything you said before. I have it set to vertical layout but this approach still isn't working - I can arrow up and down the folder list, press right when finding a folder I want, arrow up and down the article list. But then when I press VO j it jumps me back to the folder list, not the html content. Don't know why. But the good news is I found another way which seems to work well. After finding an article I want I press enter. I haven't set it up to open in external browser and it seems when I press enter it opens in a new tab but doesn't select that tab. So I then press command option right arrow which selects the next tab and also puts VO in the html content. When I've finished reading I press command w to close that tab and I land back where I was in the article list. So in case anyone else has trouble perhaps you can try that method as well. Mysterious as to why the first method isn't working for me but never mind. Thanks for your help, Catherine On 6/23/14, Geoff Stephens wrote: > Make sure to use the vertical layout. Choose Layout from the View Menu and > set it to vertical. > > You should be able to use the up and down arrows in the Folder List, press > the Right Arrow when the desired folder is located, then review the article > list using up and down arrows without having to interact with anything. > > If you choose to use VO J at that point, it should switch between the folder > list, article list and the HTML area that displays the article depending on > how much is downloaded. > > Pressing Enter should open the article. I find what works best is to set it > so that the article opens in the external browser. Set this in > Preferences/General. > I would have given up a long while back if I had to use the menu to open an > article. > > > I think I posted a lot of other things I found on the other list. Well, not > too much more but. > > > On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Catherine Turner > wrote: > > Hi, > > Can anyone who uses Vienna as an RSS reader help me figure out an > efficient/convenient way of navigating around? > > At the moment I'm picking a feed from the table of feeds, moving > across and interacting with/looking through the articles table; when I > find an article I want to read I go into the context menu and pick > "open article page". This opens the article in a separate tab and I > need to go and find that tab, select it, then find the html content, > interact with and read it. > > Someone on another list suggested I should be able to do a VO j when > in the articles list which should jump me to the html content. I had > this working at one point but it's not now. When Ihˆ press VO j I get > jumped in between the articles table and the feeds table. I don't > know what's different between when this was working and now that it's > not. > > Has anyone any suggestions on how to move a bit quicker? Would love > to hear how other people are using vienna. > > Thanks, > Catherine > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups
Re: Apps Opening Very Slowly in mavericks; Anyone Else Experience This?
Apps seem clunky when opening for me too with the 2013 Macbook Air. Definitely slower than with Mountain Lion. I may have to do a clean install. On Oct 23, 2013, at 7:19 AM, May and Noah wrote: Yes, I noticed this as well and I have a macbook aire 2013. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:53 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > hi, all, > > I’m using an upgrade from Mountain lion on a late 2009 Mac Mini with 4GB ram. > The specs indicate that i should be ok to use this, but i notice that apps > are taking at least twenty seconds to open. I might be mis-estimating the > time, but I certainly notice the slower load times. Anyone else have this > issue? > > Teresa > > "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: KeyRemap4Macbook is broken for me
It seems broken if you upgrade. I’m going to try to re-establish it/set it up again as I also rely on caps lock for VO. As for its companion in VM?Ware is that Sharpkeys? I have had a lot of problems with the keys generally on the right side of the keyboard using JAWS in a VM when the JAWS key is caps lock. In fact, it is the main reason I installed Windows via Bootcamp. I would rather get the entire keyboard working well with JAWS and just go to a virtual machine as little as possible when I need Windows. As I posted here before, caps lock and most of the keys on the rights side of the keyboard don’t work for me in a VM. On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: Hi Alex, this is working fine for me. Not sure what to suggest, but just wanted you to know it isn’t a universal problem. It’s companion is also working fine in JAWS in Fusion. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 24/10/2013, at 5:28 am, Alex Hall wrote: > Hi all, > I use KeyRemap4Macbook to use my caps lock as a set of vo keys, but in 10.9 > that functionality seems to be broken. Is it just me? Thanks. > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Change to quick key behaviour in Safari in Mavericks
Ed - Although I can sympathize with your frustration with having combo boxes/popup buttons mixed in the b quick key, it is also a reason to celebrate since it was not possible that I could find to quickly navigate to a popup button/combo box before. This was equally as frustrating to me. I haven’t experimented with this yet but any way to quickly navigate to them is better than no way at all. Maybe I was just missing something before since I am a very new user. I would like a way to move to these elements separately. On Oct 23, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Edward Green wrote: Hi, I use quick keys to navigate web elements in Safari. In Mountain Lion, when I pressed b to move between buttons, it would cycle through what I traditionally think of as buttons which might be search, go, submit etc. However, using b now seems also to bring in pop up buttons (what Windows calls combo boxes). Has anyone else noticed this? While I suppose they are buttons according to Safari, I find it a bit annoying. Thanks, Ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Change to quick key behaviour in Safari in Mavericks
I would encourage everyone who was using these keyboard apps to update them or completely uninstall them. Don’t just let them linger unattended if you upgraded from Mountain Lion. Several very odd keyboard anomalies have been solved since I updated them. One very strange thing was that when I opened an app from Finder, then closed the app, I could no longer open another app from finder without moving focus away from Finder and returning. I also think VO-J was affected in certain circumstances. There were other keyboard weirdnesses that I can’t adequately document at this point. Now that I have updated both and checked to make sure everything is set correctly, things have smoothed out considerably for me with Mavericks and the keyboard. On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: No, I believe the companion app is called PC Keyboard Hack. It’s an alternative to Sharpkeys. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 24/10/2013, at 1:27 pm, Geoff Stephens wrote: > Ed - > Although I can sympathize with your frustration with having combo boxes/popup > buttons mixed in the b quick key, it is also a reason to celebrate since it > was not possible that I could find to quickly navigate to a popup > button/combo box before. This was equally as frustrating to me. I haven’t > experimented with this yet but any way to quickly navigate to them is better > than no way at all. Maybe I was just missing something before since I am a > very new user. I would like a way to move to these elements separately. > > > > > > > On Oct 23, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Edward Green wrote: > > Hi, > > I use quick keys to navigate web elements in Safari. > > In Mountain Lion, when I pressed b to move between buttons, it would cycle > through what I traditionally think of as buttons which might be search, go, > submit etc. However, using b now seems also to bring in pop up buttons (what > Windows calls combo boxes). Has anyone else noticed this? While I suppose > they are buttons according to Safari, I find it a bit annoying. > > Thanks, > > Ed > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: KeyRemap4Macbook is broken for me
Sorry. Apparently the thread was hosed and I contributed by replying to the wrong message. I would encourage everyone who was using these keyboard apps to update them or completely uninstall them. Don’t just let them linger unattended if you upgraded from Mountain Lion. Several very odd keyboard anomalies have been solved since I updated them. One very strange thing was that when I opened an app from Finder, then closed the app, I could no longer open another app from finder without moving focus away from Finder and returning. I also think VO-J was affected in certain circumstances. There were other keyboard weirdnesses that I can’t adequately document at this point. Now that I have updated both and checked to make sure everything is set correctly, things have smoothed out considerably for me with Mavericks and the keyboard. On Oct 23, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote: Make sure to update to the latest versions of these apps to get proper functionality in Mavericks. The current versions are: KeyRemap4MacBook 8.4.0 PCKeyboardHack 10.0.0 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KeyRemap4Macbook is broken for me Hi Alex, this is working fine for me. Not sure what to suggest, but just wanted you to know it isn’t a universal problem. It’s companion is also working fine in JAWS in Fusion. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 24/10/2013, at 5:28 am, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, I use KeyRemap4Macbook to use my caps lock as a set of vo keys, but in 10.9 that functionality seems to be broken. Is it just me? Thanks. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Deleting Mail From Gmail site
On a related note, can anyone tell me why I am no longer seeing the all mail folders in Apple Mail for any of my GMail accounts? I may be in the minority, but I am one of those who wants access to that folder from the Mac. On Nov 16, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Jane wrote: I have Mail on my Mac and iPad and on the GMail server set to iMap. for some reason, when I tell Mail to delete stuff, it doesn't delete it, it just holds it. I can see the emails in the deleted items folder--over six thousand messages, but I don't see how to reliably delete them on Gmail using the Mac. Does anyone have suggestions? Jane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Looking for Mac RSS reader
Another good, open source, free RSS reader for the Mac is Vienna. I use it and it syncs with open reader services such as The Old Reader and Bazqux. It is very good. On Nov 30, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Nicholas Parsons wrote: You might also like to try ReadKit. • It can sync with plenty of services, e.g. FeedWrangler; • Just press G to read full text of articles in Readability mode; • It has customisable short cuts for all popular sharing and read later services – e.g. I just press Command-Shift-D to add to Apple Reading List, Control-T to tweet and control-F to share on Facebook; • It's available through the Mac App Store and is currently 70% off. I then use Mr Reader on my iPad—it's brilliant, even better than NewsRack. On 30 Jan 2013, at 3:36 PM, Mike M wrote: Hi folks, The subject says it all. I’m looking for something to replace NewsRack. Thanks for any recommendations! Mike Malarsie www.malarsie.com www.facebook.com/mmalarsie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: installing Bootcamp
You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO online. But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows. They might try to do that. You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will e-mail you a key and a download link. I don’t have the phone number handy right now. On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee wrote: Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code rather than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said ISO? On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a > bootable flash drive that is used for the install. > On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee wrote: > >> I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. >> How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a >> file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD? >> >> On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>> Hi. >>> I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted help. >>> But what about Windows 8? Canyou get Narrator to start up at >>> installation? Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 installer >>> to Bootcamp their Mac? Thanks much. >>> Bill >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >> protection is active. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: installing Bootcamp
All you need is a full version of Windows that is not an upgrade version. The system builder version is not necessary and costs a lot more. On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: What's wrong with the system builder flavor of Windows. I thought that's what you needed if you're not upgrading from another version of Windows. CB On 12/28/13 7:45 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote: > You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO > online. But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows. > They might try to do that. You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will > e-mail you a key and a download link. > > I don’t have the phone number handy right now. > On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee wrote: > > Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code rather > than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said ISO? > > On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a >> bootable flash drive that is used for the install. >> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee wrote: >> >>> I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. >>> How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a >>> file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD? >>> >>> On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>> Hi. >>>> I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted >>>> help. But what about Windows 8? Canyou get Narrator to start up at >>>> installation? Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 >>>> installer to Bootcamp their Mac? Thanks much. >>>> Bill >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >>> protection is active. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: installing Bootcamp
I don’t want to go digging around to find documentation for why you don’t have to have a system builder version. It’s everywhere in the Apple Bootcamp documentation. It is absolutely not necessary. Also, the reason I recommended calling is exactly for the reasons you mention. It is hard to find. I encountered all the same with regard to only finding upgrades on the online store. If you want to go with a system builder version fromAmazon, go for it! I had to purchase two Windows versions recently for two different Macbook Airs and one of those I went with was a full version of Windows via eBay for $39 I think. But I did have to resort to Microsoft for the other one. And you run the risk from purchasing from an individual on eBay that the key will be sold to multiple individuals and become problematic after it is activated too many times. You can call the Microsoft Store if you want a full version of Windows 8 for a somewhat reasonable price, $119 in my case, that you can be assured is a viable copy of Windows without paying the Microsoft price of $199 for the system builder version last time I checked. On Dec 28, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: When I was poking around the Windows store all I could find were upgrades. Either Windows 8.1 from Windows 7 or Windows 8 from any other version. I think I found in one of the FAQs that if you wanted to run it in a virtual machine (or on a machine that never had Windows before) you had to buy the system builder version. I found the 8.1 System Builder for $97 on Amazon. CB On 12/28/13 10:33 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote: > All you need is a full version of Windows that is not an upgrade version. The > system builder version is not necessary and costs a lot more. > > On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > What's wrong with the system builder flavor of Windows. I thought that's what > you needed if you're not upgrading from another version of Windows. > > CB > > On 12/28/13 7:45 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote: >> You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO >> online. But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows. >> They might try to do that. You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will >> e-mail you a key and a download link. >> >> I don’t have the phone number handy right now. >> On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee wrote: >> >> Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code >> rather than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said >> ISO? >> >> On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create >>> a bootable flash drive that is used for the install. >>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee wrote: >>> >>>> I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook >>>> Air. How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you >>>> download a file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it >>>> without a CD? >>>> >>>> On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>> Hi. >>>>> I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted >>>>> help. But what about Windows 8? Canyou get Narrator to start up at >>>>> installation? Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 >>>>> installer to Bootcamp their Mac? Thanks much. >>>>> Bill >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >>>> protection is active. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisi
Re: installing Bootcamp
OEM Windows is not supposed to work for Bootcamp. I can’t say whether this is truly the case but it’s what the documentation says. On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: It used to be that you could purchase an OEM copy of windows for a much cheaper price, but I’m not sure if that is still possible. The OEM version did not include tech support which really isn’t a big loss anyway. On Dec 28, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote: > You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO > online. But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows. > They might try to do that. You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will > e-mail you a key and a download link. > > I don’t have the phone number handy right now. > On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee wrote: > > Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code rather > than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said ISO? > > On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a >> bootable flash drive that is used for the install. >> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee wrote: >> >>> I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. >>> How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a >>> file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD? >>> >>> On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>> Hi. >>>> I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted >>>> help. But what about Windows 8? Canyou get Narrator to start up at >>>> installation? Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 >>>> installer to Bootcamp their Mac? Thanks much. >>>> Bill >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >>> protection is active. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: installing Bootcamp
I suspected something like this might be possible but didn’t want to try it at the time I was installing Bootcamp because I had a limited amount of assistance and needed to get it done quickly. Now I have abandoned Bootcamp and only use a VM. On Dec 30, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Bill Holton wrote: You can use the upgrade version. The way to do it, when you first install, skip the activation step. You will then have an unregistered version of Windows on your computer. Then, insert your upgrade disk again and run the setup .exe. This is where you will do the Windows upgrade. You already have a version of Windows on your machine, and this time you can enter your license number and all will be fine. MS did this so you could actually install a clean copy of Windows. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 11:01 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: installing Bootcamp When I was poking around the Windows store all I could find were upgrades. Either Windows 8.1 from Windows 7 or Windows 8 from any other version. I think I found in one of the FAQs that if you wanted to run it in a virtual machine (or on a machine that never had Windows before) you had to buy the system builder version. I found the 8.1 System Builder for $97 on Amazon. CB On 12/28/13 10:33 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote: > All you need is a full version of Windows that is not an upgrade version. The > system builder version is not necessary and costs a lot more. > > On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > What's wrong with the system builder flavor of Windows. I thought that's what > you needed if you're not upgrading from another version of Windows. > > CB > > On 12/28/13 7:45 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote: >> You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO >> online. But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows. >> They might try to do that. You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will >> e-mail you a key and a download link. >> >> I don’t have the phone number handy right now. >> On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee wrote: >> >> Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code >> rather than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said >> ISO? >> >> On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create >>> a bootable flash drive that is used for the install. >>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee wrote: >>> >>>> I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook >>>> Air. How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you >>>> download a file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it >>>> without a CD? >>>> >>>> On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>> Hi. >>>>> I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted >>>>> help. But what about Windows 8? Canyou get Narrator to start up at >>>>> installation? Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 >>>>> installer to Bootcamp their Mac? Thanks much. >>>>> Bill >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >>>> protection is active. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups
Screen reader in Virtual machine
Well, I am brand new to the Mac OS, having just purchased a Macbook Air. My goal for doing so was that I really think the PC itself is quite reliable and usable for what I want to do. I would like to have a way to use both Mac OS and Windows interchangeably. Obviously, a lot of others have had the same idea. I first installed Windows 8 in a virtual machine using VMWare Fusion 6, thinking this might be a vial option. Although I was somewhat happy with the performance, I was not happy enough to continue without Bootcamp. However, one of the things I noticed after remapping the caps lock key to act as the VO keys and consequently allowing me to use the laptop keyboard layout in JAWS in the virtual machine, was that I had a strange problem with the keyboard that I'm hoping someone can help me puzzle out. I'm using the latest Macbook Air. When I used caps lock with the keys on the left side of the keyboard, everything worked as expected in the virtual machine. However, when I tried to use the caps lock keys for key combinations on the right side of the keyboard for things like routing the JAWSCursor, reading by word, character, etc, they did not work at all. I used the suggested method detailed on Applevis with KeyRemap4Macbook and PCKeyboardHack to disable the caps lock and reconfigure the VO keys. I have since deleted the virtual machine so can't pinpoint the exact keys that did not work at this point. I decided to go with Bootcamp and now have it installed and successfully working with JAWS. However, in my zeal to experiment, I now have an unactivated version of Windows 8 since I had first installed as a virtual machine and then installed with the same key on the Bootcamp partition. Nevertheless, I am contemplating setting my Bootcamp partition as a virtual machine to have the best of all possibilities, and M hoping someone has encountered this keyboard oddity with a Macbook Air and can advise me how to proceed to get the keys working as they should. I'm sure I will also have lots of questions regarding VO use with the OS X side of things, and I also have some questions about keyboard remapping in Bootcamp/Windows with which I seem to be having trouble and Sharpkeys does not seem to have the answers. But I'll save all those questions for future posts. This is my first meaningful post using Apple Mail. I really like it so far! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Screen reader in Virtual machine
Paul - Thanks for the response. I only hope that once I reactivate my Windows installation in Bootcamp, it will also be reactivated under the virtual machine if they are already associated. I am still considering whether to go with both. Thanks for the suggestion of simply assigning an insert key. On Oct 13, 2013, at 5:57 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: > Hi Geoff, > I can't help you with the keys, but here are a few things you might want to > consider. > 1. If you want to go with bootcamp, you can call Microsoft to have them > transfer your windows license over from your vm to the bootcamp installation. > That could solve one of your problemsw. > > 2. Once you have your bootcamp partition up and running, and let's suppose > that you delete your existing virtual machine, only to avoid confusion, then > you could import your bootcamp partition into fusion. It will then not become > a vm on its own, but you can then indeed run your bootcamp windows > installation through fusion as well. So, if you need the bootcamp benefits, > like for audio editing where you cannot have latency, you boot windows from > bootcamp. Whereas, if you just want to happily switch back and forth between > windows and OS10, as long as you do not have critical time tasks, you can > also use the same bootcamp installed windows from within fusion. > > 3. If you are willing to give up capslock and use an insert key instead, > remember that you can create a fine insert key from fusion's preferences. I > have my accent key mapped to do insert, while I run a virtual machine. In > both jaws and NVDA, you can do everything you can do with the capslock key, > as long as it is a modifier key for the screenreader. > > 4. If you are annoyed by constantly falling out of fusion if you hit alt tab > in windows, that is configurable in fusion settings under keyboard and mouse. > > 5. If you would like to swap the alt and the windows logo keys, you can do > that in fusion, from preferences, keyboard and mouse. That is: on a windows > keyboard, the key to the left of the spacebar is alt, and the one next to > that, is the windows key. On a mac, these are swapped around, so that if you > were used to true pc windows, this won't feel very comfotable. In bootcamp, I > don't know of an easy way to change that, but in fusion, it's easy: keyboard > and mouse pref. > > Hope that helps. > Paul. > On Oct 8, 2013, at 11:27 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote: > >> Well, I am brand new to the Mac OS, having just purchased a Macbook Air. My >> goal for doing so was that I really think the PC itself is quite reliable >> and usable for what I want to do. I would like to have a way to use both >> Mac OS and Windows interchangeably. Obviously, a lot of others have had the >> same idea. >> >> I first installed Windows 8 in a virtual machine using VMWare Fusion 6, >> thinking this might be a vial option. Although I was somewhat happy with >> the performance, I was not happy enough to continue without Bootcamp. >> However, one of the things I noticed after remapping the caps lock key to >> act as the VO keys and consequently allowing me to use the laptop keyboard >> layout in JAWS in the virtual machine, was that I had a strange problem with >> the keyboard that I'm hoping someone can help me puzzle out. >> >> I'm using the latest Macbook Air. When I used caps lock with the keys on >> the left side of the keyboard, everything worked as expected in the >> virtual machine. However, when I tried to use the caps lock keys for key >> combinations on the right side of the keyboard for things like routing the >> JAWSCursor, reading by word, character, etc, they did not work at all. >> I used the suggested method detailed on Applevis with >> KeyRemap4Macbook and PCKeyboardHack to disable the caps lock and reconfigure >> the VO keys. >> >> I have since deleted the virtual machine so can't pinpoint the exact keys >> that did not work at this point. I decided to go with Bootcamp and now have >> it installed and successfully working with JAWS. However, in my zeal to >> experiment, I now have an unactivated version of Windows 8 since I had first >> installed as a virtual machine and then installed with the same key on the >> Bootcamp partition. >> >> Nevertheless, I am contemplating setting my Bootcamp partition as a virtual >> machine to have the best of all possibilities, and M hoping someone has >> encountered this keyboard oddity with a Macbook Air and can advise me how to >> proceed to get the keys working as they should. >> >> I'm sure I will als
