Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App
I have been happy with the app since downloading it over a week ago. The only thing driving me crazy is my inability to silence its wonky sound effects. Since I do not recall hearing this particular noise in the podcast, I am mystified as to how to shut it off. If anyone has any information, please let me know. Thanks much in advance. Christine > On Aug 28, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote: > > Not to defend Mike, as he can do that himself, but he didn’t realize that the > app does indeed identify POIs when possible with the side of street > information included. He made a correction on the Nearby Explorer lists to > his assumption. I’m sure he’ll go back in and correct the podcast or have an > adendum for it. > > > Jenine Stanley > dragonwalke...@gmail.com > > > >> On Aug 28, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Janine is correct. I didn't listen to the podcast, but if Mike said that in >> general it didn't identify the side of the street for the destination, he >> was wrong. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 11:40 AM, gs wrote: >>> >>> The provision of information is not condescending. The podcast I heard >>> describing the product demonstrated that it did not identify the side of >>> the street for the destination. Therefore, I concluded that it never >>> identifies it. In the podcast, it was stated that the Android version of >>> the product identifies the side of the street. If the iOS version also >>> identifies it when possible, I will likely purchase it. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Jenine Stanley >>> wrote: >>> >>> At the risk of also being condescending, I’ll chime in here. >>> >>> Nearby Explorer does identify which side of the street the destination is >>> on if it can do so. There are some address schemes which do not make this >>> possible. Sometimes it’s also recorded incorrectly when the mappers put in >>> geocodes for things like points of interest. >>> >>> I’d wager that your other GPS solution gets it wrong at least a couple >>> times, but maybe not in the immediate areas where you use it. >>> >>> to answer your question/train of thought though, Nearby Explorer does >>> provide this information when possible. >>> Jenine Stanley >>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:40 PM, gs wrote: Thanks for the education, David. It's a little condescending but I'll leave it at that. Just to be clear, I have another GPS solution which will identify the side of the street of the destination. I do not want to spend the money for this unless it will do the same. This has nothing to do with GPS accuracy, orientation skills, or international travel. It should have been obvious that what I intended to state was that I wanted to know the side of the street of the destination. Not sure why anyone would need GPS to inform them if they (the person traveling) are on the left or right side of the street. Also, I might be deafblind or there might be several other reasons why one would prefer this feature. Mainly, it exists in other GPS apps and I like it. I do not use GPS to travel to familiar locations. If the map identifies the side of the street for specific addresses, it should be included in the information available to a blind user if possible. If I did not already own a solution where it is available, I might purchase this with faith that it might be added in the future. On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:39 AM, David Chittenden wrote: When the accuracy is very good, one ends up very close to the location. When the accuracy is not as good, one ends up within the block. In that case, good O&M skills will get the person to the location; such skills as asking people in the area. I travel independently, and internationally, using GPS, with excellent success. It is another tool in my travel toolbox. It is not the ultimate tool, it is another tool. Oh, and when the GPS signal is very pool, it is necessary to fall back on O&M skills without GPS. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 28 Aug 2016, at 22:40, Geoff Stephens wrote: > > I guess I am smart enough to be able to tell which side of the street I > am on. The concern is about the destination. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, David Chittenden >> wrote: >> >> Given the inaccuracies which are inherrant in GPS thus far, I would not >> trust any app which claimed to be able to tell you which side of the >> street you are currently on. GPS is not that accurate. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2
Re: Braille displays
I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate getting it. Thanks. (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.) Christine On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I couldn't > use my Braille Lite 40. > > I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 Blue is > the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least $5000 US. > > Teresa > > "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham > > On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple >> for sure supports all of the modern ones. Except that they are footdragging >> on the brialliant BI displays. Most of the ones they're missing are legacy >> serial and parallel devices. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New >> drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit >> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com >> >> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >>> I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think >>> that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think >>> $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your >>> braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I >>> have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted >>> one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on >>> an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It >>> would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price >>> were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky >>> enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while >>> traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell >>> display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to >>> carry the display around. >>> >>> To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, >>> when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There >>> were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the >>> other screen readers could say that their program could support that many >>> displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me >>> about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> >>> >>> >>> Eugenia Firth >>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: >>> I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a good deal, and a very well made display. Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for many people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where more people may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one. But, at $5,000 for a 40 cell display very few people can afford a Braille display without help from somewhere. - Original Message - From: "James Mannion" To: Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR > Hi Mark, > I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I > were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date in > my understanding that the price of braille displays are just > rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then > some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be > able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point i
Very odd mail server issue
Happy holidays to all those celebrating. I am perplexed about something which has been happening almost every time I try to send mail for the first time after a significant inactive period -- say a few hours. I write a message from within Apple mail, and when I send it, a dialog comes in telling me I must enter my password. It has a box to check for "keep this password in my keychain" which I always check. Then everything is fine for a while. This happens both at work and at home. It started a few weeks ago for no apparent reason. My settings have not been changed. Any ideas? Thanks. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: bookshare and mac?
Maria, you can also get a free file extractor called the unarchiver. Download and install it, then when you download a bookshare Daity title, you open the unarchiver, put in your bookshare password, and it extracts the file just as on a PC. You can then read the book in Safari or other preferred web browsers which otherwise work with VO. Christine On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:48 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > HI. thanks. will this app do audio books as well? > > i have it just haven't played with it. > > > regards > Maria and crew from australia > email: > bubbygirl1...@gmail.com > check out > www.powerradio104.us > where we play lots of great music > > > > On 17/04/2012, at 1:43 PM, Gabe Vega wrote: > >> Hello I use an app called Oliaria. its a daisy reader app for the mac. >> its very accessible and I have personally read several book share >> books with it. my favorite was the steve jobs bio. you can either read >> with the vo voice and cursor or use the audio functions and use the >> system voice to read it. thanks >> >> On Apr 16, 8:25 pm, Maria Chapman wrote: >>> HI. is it possible to read a bookshare book on the mac? I have read to go >>> for the iphone but was just wondering if i download a book via the mac >>> whether or not i can read it using the mac? >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> regards >>> Maria and crew from australia >>> email: >>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com >>> check outwww.powerradio104.us >>> where we play lots of great music >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: bookshare and mac?
I've never used anything except the unarchiver snd Safari, so I don't know of the app you mention has an extraction feature built in. On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: > Hi. thanks. i was looking for a way to read and save my place. do i still > need the unarchiver to read bookshare books in oleria? > > pardon spelling. too lazy to go look it up lol > > > Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. > Email/ I Message: &fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com > twitter: bubbygirl > skype: bubbygirl1972 > > bubbygirl1...@gmail.com > > > > > > > On 17/04/2012, at 11:36 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > >> Maria, you can also get a free file extractor called the unarchiver. >> Download and install it, then when you download a bookshare Daity title, you >> open the unarchiver, put in your bookshare password, and it extracts the >> file just as on a PC. You can then read the book in Safari or other >> preferred web browsers which otherwise work with VO. >> >> Christine >> On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:48 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: >> >>> HI. thanks. will this app do audio books as well? >>> >>> i have it just haven't played with it. >>> >>> >>> regards >>> Maria and crew from australia >>> email: >>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com >>> check out >>> www.powerradio104.us >>> where we play lots of great music >>> >>> >>> >>> On 17/04/2012, at 1:43 PM, Gabe Vega wrote: >>> >>>> Hello I use an app called Oliaria. its a daisy reader app for the mac. >>>> its very accessible and I have personally read several book share >>>> books with it. my favorite was the steve jobs bio. you can either read >>>> with the vo voice and cursor or use the audio functions and use the >>>> system voice to read it. thanks >>>> >>>> On Apr 16, 8:25 pm, Maria Chapman wrote: >>>>> HI. is it possible to read a bookshare book on the mac? I have read to >>>>> go for the iphone but was just wondering if i download a book via the mac >>>>> whether or not i can read it using the mac? >>>>> >>>>> thanks >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> Maria and crew from australia >>>>> email: >>>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com >>>>> check outwww.powerradio104.us >>>>> where we play lots of great music >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Why Does Spotlight Suddenly Stop Working?
The subject basically says it all. About ten percent of the time, when I attempt to use Sotlight, it just doesn't work. Whatever is on the screen at the time is spoken -- I have to restart the Mac in order for Spotlight to work again. Sometimes, it will work successfully a few times in a row, then when I try to use it, nothing. Has anyone experienced this, and if so, is there a better way than restarting the computer to get it to work properly again? Thanks. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New epub Reader
Will this read Nook or Kindle books? On Apr 23, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > I hadn't either until I read the original message mentioning it as an > EPUB reader for the mac. Earlier today I got a message saying it was > accessible so one can use it to read EPUB books on the mac like you > would do with ibooks on the iPhone. That's all I know about it so > far. > > On 4/22/12, Jenny Keller wrote: >> I've never heard of that program or ap. >> >> Can you explain what it is if it works on the Mac. >> >> Learning is fun and prosperous:) >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 22, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: >> >>> bookel >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
OT: Any Web Designers Out Here?
Hi there, everyone. I'm hoping someone can assist with something. In a nutshell, there is a site, http://www.yourmorals.org which enables you to take surveys on fascinating and intriguing aspects of morality. After you take the surveys, there are often color-coded and otherwise graphical representations of your scores as compared to others who took the surveys. Most results are therefore inaccessible. I wrote to the webmaster and received no reply, and I wrote to the man many of whose studies are discussed at this site, Professor John Haidt. He did respond, stating that it had never occurred to him that people with "limited sight" would be able to take their surveys, that it is an interesting consideration, but that he does not think anything can be changed until they get more money for updated web design. Is this the sort of thing which is really that expensive and time-consuming? I don't know enough about it, so would appreciate off-list feedback -- I can send anyone who wants more information the correspondence in question. It's one of those things that really could be, and should be, open to us, with the technology which is at our disposal. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
blindmicemegamall movie vault and illegal file-sharing allegation
Naturally, if the moderator deems this discussion verboten, I will refrain further, but I would feel remiss not to point out the following for consideration: 1. As of several hours ago, there was nothing on the FBI's official web site regarding an investigation, nor were there any press releases or other comparable references to an investigation of the movie vault. A reference would be appreciated; mere speculation or rumor could be deemed libelous. 2. The problem industries have with illegal file-sharing is loss of revenue. Since, at least in the United States, there is virtually no way to purchase audio-described movies or television shows, the industry is not being cheated of revenue. 3. The files are straight audio, with no ability, for example, to "watch" with sighted peers while having the benefit of the audio description. This is not at all remotely similar to downloading a film for the family to watch. That being said, the vast majority of the sighted community does this with impunity, even though many of the shows and movies they download can be seen for free when they are are shown on television. We, on the other hand, cannot even enjoy full access to these shows when they *are* on television. Either they are not audio-described at all, or it is not easy to turn on the secondary audio channel, or a particular station only carries foreign language broadcasts on the SAC rather than audio description. Comparing access to audio-described movies and shows in mp3 format to the type of file-sharing which goes on 24/7 on hundreds and thousands of sites is a stretch. 4. If the government and/or the involved industries wish to do something about the existence of resources like the movie vault, the former should mandate, and the latter should provide a market from which we can obtain these items. I have been able to watch a non-described movie with others after listening to an mp3 file and tell another blind person what is going on thanks to that previous experience. My two blind children have been able to enjoy fare which their peers enjoyed months or years ago. Until the entertainment industry levels the playing field, I will utilize resources like the movie vault with the same guiltless pleasure I take in bookshare.org (and, by the way, it is possible to download books from bookshare.org which are available commercially.) We cannot use the Kindle as others do. WE cannot use the Nook. We are severely limited in what we can access independently when it comes to entertainment, and we must even still fight for access to education at every level, despite technological advances. Holding us to the same standards as the vast majority of illegal file-sharers is legally, morally, and economically inequitable. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: blindmicemegamall movie vault and illegal file-sharing allegation
With all due respect, Scott, laws which disparately impact certain groups or classes of people have been flouted through civil disobedience since the introduction of legal systems, e.g., civil rights, disability rights, employment rights, etc. The United States might not exist were it not for disobeying laws. I am an attorney, and it continues to amaze me how slowly the U.S. is moving to accommodate disability, and how snail-paced the societal shift in attitudes toward us has been. and it seems that whenever a company like Apple makes great strides in accommodating blindness off the shelf, plenty of other technologies come along and do not bother to incorporate us into their equation. So many educational apps, for example, are not accessible, though they could be, and given the push now to have iPads in classrooms, once again blind, visually impaired, and otherwise print-disabled students will be left out. Apple moves us two steps forward, and "progress" (for others) moves us three steps back. I should be able to turn on a television, flip a switch, or turn on a transmitter, and get descriptions. I should be able to access books on the Nook or the Kindle, not just iBooks. I cannot express, and I am sure others here agree, the happiness I feel when a new release or best-selling publication is available on iBooks. (Incidentally, if a book is available on iBooks and on bookshare.org, I purchase the book. Yet, I have lost quite a lot of money as a published author -- as soon as my book was published, I sent a copy to bookshare.org; it was more important to me to have it available at the same time to the blind and print-disabled. The Authors Guild apparently does not care about such access, despite the fact that they would actually get money from us.) I would happily go to the movies more and happily purchase audio-described movies through iTunes if they were available. Even movies which are released with audio description are not always sold through movie resellers -- goodness knows I have tried. To date, I have only located The Incredible Hulk, from 2008, which I purchased for my son. Even Apple could do more. It could strengthen its requirements for apps. It has provided developers with the means to make their apps VoiceOver accessible, and there are plenty of apps out there which could be so. Only apps that are visual by their very nature should be exempted. But, as usual, profit trumps people, despite the fact that the disabled community rewards those who remember us with our business. Frankly, I would prefer to purchase the audio-described movies and shows I download from the vault, so that I could watch them with sighted friends and family. I wish I could show a film to a class and not have to ask my para or a student to tell me what is going on. The entertainment industry gets plenty of my money. If they want more, they should remember that I deserve to be able to access their material independently. OK. Topic over. Those of you who wish to continue this off-list are welcome; I've appreciated your correspondence thus far. Christine On Apr 28, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > I am sure commenting on this only adds fuel to the fire, but I did want to > point out that as I recall the person that is responsible for this movie > vault thing also runs a legit company. I would find it difficult to believe > that he has not checked into this because no one would want to put their > business assets at risk. If there truly is an investigation then prove it. I > get pretty annoyed when people claim something, but cannot or do not provide > any reference to back those claims. And for the record I do not condone > pirating of any kind and believe that regardless of accessibility issues > even blind people must follow the laws. > > > On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:51 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > >> Naturally, if the moderator deems this discussion verboten, I will refrain >> further, but I would feel remiss not to point out the following for >> consideration: >> 1. As of several hours ago, there was nothing on the FBI's official web site >> regarding an investigation, nor were there any press releases or other >> comparable references to an investigation of the movie vault. A reference >> would be appreciated; mere speculation or rumor could be deemed libelous. >> >> 2. The problem industries have with illegal file-sharing is loss of revenue. >> Since, at least in the United States, there is virtually no way to purchase >> audio-described movies or television shows, the industry is not being >> cheated of revenue. >> 3. The files are straight audio, with no ability, for example, to "watch" >> with sighted peers while having the benefit of the audio description. This >> is not at all re
Re: FaceDekk beta news, and link to sign up
I think it's terrific that he is doing this, and thanks so much, Ed, for getting the ball rolling. On Apr 27, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Ed Worrell wrote: > He is fixing the inaccessible parts of the app. HE just wants to get the > fixes right,and see if there is any other suggestions of better ways to get > the app to interact with voiceover. He just wants some feedback on the > accessibility of the whole app. > > Ed > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: blindmicemegamall movie vault and illegal file-sharing allegation
Because many of the educational platforms used by schools and apps out there are not VoiceOver accessible. I was initially ecstatic at the push for the iPad, rather than something like the Kindle being used in classrooms. But my daughter, who has an iPhone, has been stymied more than a few times by educational apps which are not VoiceOver accessible. Apple could certainly require that all educational apps be made VoiceOver accessible before they can be placed in the app store. (I have heard, though secondhand, that some demonstrations of the iPad have included Apple-designed educational apps which are graphically rich but not accessible. I have been trying to get more information on this.) Christine On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:44 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > nice one donna, I fully agree. > > the iPad is a product which can truly change the lives of blind users > throughout the world. I'm in the process of buying an iPad as it's needed for > work both in the workshop and on site as a rep for a company, so the online > catalogue needs to be available and accessible to me all the time, the iPad > for me feels absolutely amazing, after road testing the new model, I've > fallen in love with it. I don't need a wife, just an iPad lol > > lew > > On 28 Apr 2012, at 13:39, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Christine, >> >> I'm perplexed. How do you see the push to have iPads in classrooms as >> something that leaves the blind/VI student out? If anything, I see that as >> something that better enables us to participate, thanks to the fact that >> Apple has made the iPad a fully accessible device. >> Best, >> Donna >> On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: >> >>> With all due respect, Scott, laws which disparately impact certain groups >>> or classes of people have been flouted through civil disobedience since the >>> introduction of legal systems, e.g., civil rights, disability rights, >>> employment rights, etc. The United States might not exist were it not for >>> disobeying laws. >>> I am an attorney, and it continues to amaze me how slowly the U.S. is >>> moving to accommodate disability, and how snail-paced the societal shift in >>> attitudes toward us has been. and it seems that whenever a company like >>> Apple makes great strides in accommodating blindness off the shelf, plenty >>> of other technologies come along and do not bother to incorporate us into >>> their equation. So many educational apps, for example, are not accessible, >>> though they could be, and given the push now to have iPads in classrooms, >>> once again blind, visually impaired, and otherwise print-disabled students >>> will be left out. Apple moves us two steps forward, and "progress" (for >>> others) moves us three steps back. I should be able to turn on a >>> television, flip a switch, or turn on a transmitter, and get descriptions. >>> I should be able to access books on the Nook or the Kindle, not just >>> iBooks. I cannot express, and I am sure others here agree, the happiness I >>> feel when a new release or best-selling publication is available on iBooks. >>> (Incidentally, if a book is available on iBooks and on bookshare.org, I >>> purchase the book. Yet, I have lost quite a lot of money as a published >>> author -- as soon as my book was published, I sent a copy to bookshare.org; >>> it was more important to me to have it available at the same time to the >>> blind and print-disabled. The Authors Guild apparently does not care about >>> such access, despite the fact that they would actually get money from us.) >>> >>> I would happily go to the movies more and happily purchase audio-described >>> movies through iTunes if they were available. Even movies which are >>> released with audio description are not always sold through movie resellers >>> -- goodness knows I have tried. To date, I have only located The Incredible >>> Hulk, from 2008, which I purchased for my son. >>> Even Apple could do more. It could strengthen its requirements for apps. It >>> has provided developers with the means to make their apps VoiceOver >>> accessible, and there are plenty of apps out there which could be so. Only >>> apps that are visual by their very nature should be exempted. But, as >>> usual, profit trumps people, despite the fact that the disabled community >>> rewards those who remember us with our business. >>> Frankly, I would prefer to purchase the audio-described movies and shows I >>
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;> >>> congrats on your iPad. they really are cool devices. My husband has one, >>> and I thought long and hard about getting one too. But eventually I decided >>> that since I didn't need the larger screen, that the iPhone could do >>> everything I needed, so it didn't make sense to duplicate devices. I >>> confess, though, I'm envious. Every once in a while I look at my husband's >>> iPad and get a sudden craving for coolaide. lol >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:44 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: >>> >>>> nice one donna, I fully agree. >>>> >>>> the iPad is a product which can truly change the lives of blind users >>>> throughout the world. I'm in the process of buying an iPad as it's needed >>>> for work both in the workshop and on site as a rep for a company, so the >>>> online catalogue needs to be available and accessible to me all the time, >>>> the iPad for me feels absolutely amazing, after road testing the new >>>> model, I've fallen in love with it. I don't need a wife, just an iPad lol >>>> >>>> lew >>>> >>>> On 28 Apr 2012, at 13:39, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Christine, >>>>> >>>>> I'm perplexed. How do you see the push to have iPads in classrooms as >>>>> something that leaves the blind/VI student out? If anything, I see that >>>>> as something that better enables us to participate, thanks to the fact >>>>> that Apple has made the iPad a fully accessible device. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Donna >>>>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> With all due respect, Scott, laws which disparately impact certain >>>>>> groups or classes of people have been flouted through civil disobedience >>>>>> since the introduction of legal systems, e.g., civil rights, disability >>>>>> rights, employment rights, etc. The United States might not exist were >>>>>> it not for disobeying laws. >>>>>> I am an attorney, and it continues to amaze me how slowly the U.S. is >>>>>> moving to accommodate disability, and how snail-paced the societal shift >>>>>> in attitudes toward us has been. and it seems that whenever a company >>>>>> like Apple makes great strides in accommodating blindness off the shelf, >>>>>> plenty of other technologies come along and do not bother to incorporate >>>>>> us into their equation. So many educational apps, for example, are not >>>>>> accessible, though they could be, and given the push now to have iPads >>>>>> in classrooms, once again blind, visually impaired, and otherwise >>>>>> print-disabled students will be left out. Apple moves us two steps >>>>>> forward, and "progress" (for others) moves us three steps back. I should >>>>>> be able to turn on a television, flip a switch, or turn on a >>>>>> transmitter, and get descriptions. I should be able to access books on >>>>>> the Nook or the Kindle, not just iBooks. I cannot express, and I am sure >>>>>> others here agree, the happiness I feel when a new release or >>>>>> best-selling publication is available on iBooks. >>>>>> (Incidentally, if a book is available on iBooks and on bookshare.org, I >>>>>> purchase the book. Yet, I have lost quite a lot of money as a published >>>>>> author -- as soon as my book was published, I sent a copy to >>>>>> bookshare.org; it was more important to me to have it available at the >>>>>> same time to the blind and print-disabled. The Authors Guild apparently >>>>>> does not care about such access, despite the fact that they would >>>>>> actually get money from us.) >>>>>> >>>>>> I would happily go to the movies more and happily purchase >>>>>> audio-described movies through iTunes if they were available. Even >>>>>> movies which are released with audio description are not always sold >>>>>> through movie resellers -- goodness knows I have tried. To date, I have >>>>>> only located The Incredible Hulk, from 2008, which I purchased for my >>>>>> son. >>>>
Re: blindmicemegamall movie vault and illegal file-sharing allegation
It is such a wonderful experience to be able to sit down with my son and listen to the mp3 of one of his favorite movies and have him not ask, "Mom, what do you think is going on?" I watch movies I saw years ago and realize things I missed. It makes a difference, and would have really been significant when I was a kid and teenager to go to a movie with friends and not have to rely on someone else to tell me what was going on. Christine On Apr 28, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > Christine, I agree with you completely. There is a screenreader company who > also provides access to described content as part of their network. I wonder > if these offerings were gotten completely on the up and up? I use the vault > myself for my own entertainment and nothing more. I'm not trying to sell it > or redistribute it in any way. Every time I enjoy a described show with one > of those awesome British accents narrating, I say thank God for the folks > across the pond who believe visually impaired folks have as much right to > described content as they can make available. I, too, would happily purchase > content were it available, but since it is not, I will continue to utilize > this described material as long as it remains an option. I hear the federal > incarceration facilities are kind of nice ,just in case they decide to lock > us all up. We may be needing a good attorney. *smiles* > On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: > >> With all due respect, Scott, laws which disparately impact certain groups or >> classes of people have been flouted through civil disobedience since the >> introduction of legal systems, e.g., civil rights, disability rights, >> employment rights, etc. The United States might not exist were it not for >> disobeying laws. >> I am an attorney, and it continues to amaze me how slowly the U.S. is moving >> to accommodate disability, and how snail-paced the societal shift in >> attitudes toward us has been. and it seems that whenever a company like >> Apple makes great strides in accommodating blindness off the shelf, plenty >> of other technologies come along and do not bother to incorporate us into >> their equation. So many educational apps, for example, are not accessible, >> though they could be, and given the push now to have iPads in classrooms, >> once again blind, visually impaired, and otherwise print-disabled students >> will be left out. Apple moves us two steps forward, and "progress" (for >> others) moves us three steps back. I should be able to turn on a television, >> flip a switch, or turn on a transmitter, and get descriptions. I should be >> able to access books on the Nook or the Kindle, not just iBooks. I cannot >> express, and I am sure others here agree, the happiness I feel when a new >> release or best-selling publication is available on iBooks. >> (Incidentally, if a book is available on iBooks and on bookshare.org, I >> purchase the book. Yet, I have lost quite a lot of money as a published >> author -- as soon as my book was published, I sent a copy to bookshare.org; >> it was more important to me to have it available at the same time to the >> blind and print-disabled. The Authors Guild apparently does not care about >> such access, despite the fact that they would actually get money from us.) >> >> I would happily go to the movies more and happily purchase audio-described >> movies through iTunes if they were available. Even movies which are released >> with audio description are not always sold through movie resellers -- >> goodness knows I have tried. To date, I have only located The Incredible >> Hulk, from 2008, which I purchased for my son. >> Even Apple could do more. It could strengthen its requirements for apps. It >> has provided developers with the means to make their apps VoiceOver >> accessible, and there are plenty of apps out there which could be so. Only >> apps that are visual by their very nature should be exempted. But, as usual, >> profit trumps people, despite the fact that the disabled community rewards >> those who remember us with our business. >> Frankly, I would prefer to purchase the audio-described movies and shows I >> download from the vault, so that I could watch them with sighted friends and >> family. I wish I could show a film to a class and not have to ask my para or >> a student to tell me what is going on. The entertainment industry gets >> plenty of my money. If they want more, they should remember that I deserve >> to be able to access their material independently. OK. Topic over. Those of >> you who w
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I'll have both. The government need not provide anything except a law mandating availability. I think we should have sighted people only have access to audio devices for one week, but with every other one of life's amenities to which they are accustomed. After all, seeing action is a luxury. Let them pay attention to the dialogue. Christine Christine On Apr 28, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > It's even worse than that. While we can use our accessible devices, we still > can't go to a humble Wallmart and shop independently; or, for that matter, > the local 7/11. We must be assisted when purchasing anything in a large > store prone to layout changes, robbing us of much of the credibility we might > otherwise have as equals. Our talking smart thing tells us we have a $20 > bill in our hand, and yet we had to ask for assistance finding HoneyNut > chereos? And people whine because some agency somewhere didn't spend money > and time to put descriptions in movies?! I was involved with WGBH back in > 193-4 when DVS first got going, at least in America. I really like some of > the DVS movies I've watched, and I appreciate the skill it takes to do timely > narration of visual events. but I also recognize this for the luxury that it > is. Asking the government to make this accessible is like asking your deity > of choice to provide you with a narrator for all the things in life which you > don't see; I think we're stretching the metaphor here. I'll take an > accessible computer over a described movie. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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ntal accessibility for certain > functionally diverse people is not. We never ask how we can afford > aircraft carriers but always question housing vouchers for poor > people > who must sleep in doorways. > > For a long time, people with different levels of functionality have > been labeled as having special needs that create a burden on society. > They are put into labeled groups and often discriminated against -- > sometimes very substantially -- just for being different, despite the > fact that their functional diversity is what makes it possible for > humanity to survive and evolve. > > Diversity is essential to the selection process necessary to prevent > our species from going the way of all the others that became too > specialized to survive in an ever-changing world. > > So rather than think of individuals as "independent," we should > consider ourselves "interdependent" and, most important, not be put > into some arbitrary category and relegated to the fringes of society. > It is not popular to say "we are all disabled," but there can be no > argument that each of us has his own particular talents and > shortcomings. This diversity should be celebrated rather than > punished. > > A policy of "separate but equal" doesn't just affect those who are > put > into some "disability box," but also the society that puts them there > to suffer often terrible consequences. There is no longer any > question > that accessibility to what is offered by our culture is a basic human > right, equal to any others. > > By continuing to accept mainstream views of disability, we deny the > undeniable: Compared to whoever is the best in a certain field, we > are > all disabled, unless we can compose as well as Mozart did at age 10, > or > putt as accurately as Tiger Woods, for example. > > A speech impediment caused by cerebral palsy is not a reason to be > denied the essentials of education or, worse, to be incarcerated in a > setting that has been shown to lead to abuse, neglect or even death. > A > person who has no means of using the mouse on a computer should not > be > denied access to the World Wide Web. > > Another downside to continuing to speak of ourselves as disabled is > that it puts us in the position of essentially "playing the pity > card" > to reach our goals. What we're saying is that, if not for our > disability, we are just like everyone else. Why draw attention to our > differences? > > The way in which each of us is like everyone else is that we are > different. That is important for the survival of the species. The > world > needs, for example, biographical-, neurological- and mobility-diverse > people to help our species evolve. > > So, how are we to assert our independence? Probably by realizing just > how dependent we are - and how closely related. Accessibility should > be > for everyone, everywhere, always. > > The "diversity model" must replace the "medical model" and the > "social > model." What should be "fixed" is not our differences, but society's > reluctance to recognize our importance to cultural evolution. It's > not > the wheelchair that disables us, it's the stairs. > > William Loughborough has come to the above conclusions because of his > association with Javier Roma?ach of Madrid, Spain, from whose book > (in Spanish) "El Modelo de la Diversidad" this article is derived. A > more "academic" distillation can be found at > > http://www.boobam.org/Innecesarios.htm. > __ > > > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Keep in mind, fair doesn't always mean equal. I'm sure if we looked hard >> enough, we can find some services offered exclusively to those who are >> visually impaired and or blind. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Apr 28, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: >> >>> In my opinion, accessible movies, TV shows, appliances, etc, should fall >>> under the ADA. >>> >>> Not to be politically incorrect here, but if people in wheelchairs can get >>> them for free and most places are made to be accessible for them, and the >>> deaf get closed captioning for almost every TV show and eventually DVD, and >>> TTY phones and free relay services, then why isn't it mandatory that we get >>> the same consideration. >>> >>> The fact is, we don&#x
Re: blindmicemegamall movie vault and illegal file-sharing allegation
There was a protest and a petition, and call for a class action suit. What the Authors' Guild is doing is relying on a copyright law which says that the "reading" of a book is not the same as the print -- therefore the Kindle would be "violating" the "performance violation" -- in other words, the synthesized voice is compared to a human narrator, and therefore the price should reflect this, as in audible.com. It's actually an argument which might stand up in court, so the efforts have been relegated to changing legislation to prevent the argument from being utilized in this instance, and fighting universities and other institutions which are using Kindles, and which therefore leave the print-disabled out. Of course, this is just as expensive and probably will take just as long, and doesn't generate as much public attention. I myself have never participated in a class action suit, and since I work full-time teaching, it would be difficult for me personally to coordinate such an effort. But it irks me tremendously that the disabled rights organizations here, including the two major voices in rights of the blind, are not doing more about this. It is a tremendous, aggravating thorn in the sides of those of us who would like to utilize a Kindle with the same degree of freedom as the rest of the public who can read the printed screen. Another problem is that there are so many other issues now, economically and educationally, that this fight will get lost amid the tumult. I intend to try to revisit this issue with others after the 2012 Presidential election has been decided. Christine On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Hi Christine > > > Why don't you initiate a class action against the Authors gill so to level > the playing ground for accessible books. Your not the first or only person I > have seen on different lists complain about the Author gill. I just don't see > anyone in the USA doing anything about it. So they get away with it. > > Only I wished that I lived there. I would then be able to do something. > > > Sean > > On 28/04/2012, at 10:36 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > >> With all due respect, Scott, laws which disparately impact certain groups or >> classes of people have been flouted through civil disobedience since the >> introduction of legal systems, e.g., civil rights, disability rights, >> employment rights, etc. The United States might not exist were it not for >> disobeying laws. >> I am an attorney, and it continues to amaze me how slowly the U.S. is moving >> to accommodate disability, and how snail-paced the societal shift in >> attitudes toward us has been. and it seems that whenever a company like >> Apple makes great strides in accommodating blindness off the shelf, plenty >> of other technologies come along and do not bother to incorporate us into >> their equation. So many educational apps, for example, are not accessible, >> though they could be, and given the push now to have iPads in classrooms, >> once again blind, visually impaired, and otherwise print-disabled students >> will be left out. Apple moves us two steps forward, and "progress" (for >> others) moves us three steps back. I should be able to turn on a television, >> flip a switch, or turn on a transmitter, and get descriptions. I should be >> able to access books on the Nook or the Kindle, not just iBooks. I cannot >> express, and I am sure others here agree, the happiness I feel when a new >> release or best-selling publication is available on iBooks. >> (Incidentally, if a book is available on iBooks and on bookshare.org, I >> purchase the book. Yet, I have lost quite a lot of money as a published >> author -- as soon as my book was published, I sent a copy to bookshare.org; >> it was more important to me to have it available at the same time to the >> blind and print-disabled. The Authors Guild apparently does not care about >> such access, despite the fact that they would actually get money from us.) >> >> I would happily go to the movies more and happily purchase audio-described >> movies through iTunes if they were available. Even movies which are released >> with audio description are not always sold through movie resellers -- >> goodness knows I have tried. To date, I have only located The Incredible >> Hulk, from 2008, which I purchased for my son. >> Even Apple could do more. It could strengthen its requirements for apps. It >> has provided developers with the means to make their apps VoiceOver >> accessible, and there are plenty of apps out there which could be so. Only >> apps that are visual by their very nature
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Perhaps Sean should be the point man and anyone interested should write him off-list; we start a mailing list, start discussing this, then use social media to go out there and do this thing. Sign me up. On Apr 30, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > I have been suggesting this for the last 10 years or so and it seems that no > one wants to talk about it. there are also the excuses that it is someone > elses problem, they are too broke, etc. I have suggested having a number of > people invest in a firm, assign a voting proxy and force the issue at the > stockholder's meetings. so far, all I get is a room full of crickets. 10 > years harping the same message and no one seems to bother. > > an accessibility tax would also work (think of it like the RIAA tax on audio > tapes all those years ago). unfortunately, you mention taxes to the general > public, even when said tax is in their own best interest and you will have > such an outcry that the matter will get dropped like a red hot potato. that > is the state of affairs that we are under these days. > > perhaps we need to form a core group and lead by example. > > -eric > > On Apr 30, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Paul Hunt wrote: > >> Hello Sean. This is a great idea and I would be interested in discussing it >> further. I had thought that we could impose an accessibility tax to be >> levied on everyone who buys a piece of electronic equipment. The money could >> be put into a fund and grants be given to companies that agree to develop >> accessible stuff to defray their R&D costs. Your idea is much more proactive. >> I just wonder how to make this happen?On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Sean >> Murphy wrote: >> >>> All. >>> >>> I would raise a different slant on the whole discussion. No one took this >>> up before in one of my prior posts. This is a concept and please treat it >>> as an idea. If people want to discuss this off line to see if it could be >>> actually adopted. Then please let me know. I am more then happy to discuss. >>> >>> >>> A we all know Business only cares about the bottom line. Since this is the >>> situation. A solution to our problems is to become investors. So how can we >>> as a group become investors? Being individual investor will not have the >>> same impact as if we do it as a group. Let me put up some figures. >>> >>> If 10 million people in the USA put $10.00 into a investment fund per >>> month. This would give the group $1.00 per month or 1.2 billion a >>> year. If you extend this to a international level and got another 20 >>> million people. Then the yearly amount grows to 3.6 billion dollars a year. >>> Having this type of yearly funds for investing into companies. Their >>> attitudes towards accessibility or what I would prefer to say Universal >>> design will quickly change. Since this type of money could place the fund >>> managers who ever they are on boards of companies due to amount of shares >>> held by the investment fund. >>> >>> Basically what I have outlined is a different approach of changing peoples >>> attitude by playing the same game. I believe there is at least 10 million >>> or more people world wide that could afford $10.00 per month. Of course >>> there are those who cannot. But they would benefit anyway. Before you shoot >>> the idea down. Stop and think about if we had as a community this type of >>> money. What changes could be done. The fund could be open to anyone who >>> wants to help. It could even be open to all disabilities. That makes the >>> numbers bigger and making the pool of investment larger. Investing into >>> proactive companies like Apple would ensure they continue doing there good >>> job. Informing companies like publishers that we will invest x million per >>> month over the next x months if I believe would quickly change their >>> attitude. >>> >>> So take off the blinkers everyone and see what this idea could do to change >>> the world of technology? >>> >>> Ideas or comments are more then welcomed. >>> >>> >>> Sean >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group,
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There are many sites which now have an audio capcha, but there are plenty which do not have this. On some, you cannot even contact anyone via an email contact form without solving a capcha. I don't know why they cannot simply give a simple arithmetic problem or some other query which has an obvious litery or numerical answer for everyone. Christine On May 5, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Venkatesh Potluri wrote: > Hi > yes, you can. in most of the popular sites, you find an option to try > an audio capture. you will listen a few numbers or, in some cases, > words along with a lot of background speech. you should be able to > type only the numbers that you hear. > I would suggest you use headphones while doing this for better results. > I would like to add to the question. > I often don't succeed in entering the words or numbers successfully. > well, am I not so good at it just yet, or are there any tips that > would make this process easier? > Thank you. > Venkatesh Potluri > > On 5/5/12, Andrew Lamanche wrote: >> Listers, >> >> How can I deal with a capture on a web page? Can it be done without >> sighted assistance? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions. >> >> Andrew >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Excedingly odd and frustrating problem filling out WEb nform at snapple.com
Hello, all. I am trying to fill out a Web contact form at Snapple. It seems that all pop-ups and radio buttons are selecting correctly, but all edit boxes for name, address, phone number, and comments are not taking my inputs. I have tried interacting, writing the information elsewhere and cutting and pasting, and just inputting directly. Either VoiceOver is not reading what I am putting in the edit boxes, or my entries are not being accepted. Obviously, I cannot contact them to let them know of this. :) Could someone please take a look and let me know what you think? TIA. Christine http://www.econsumeraffairs.com/am_bev/contactus.htm?F1=snapple -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Excedingly odd and frustrating problem filling out WEb nform at snapple.com
I'm running Snow Leopard, and I did try this, but it didn't work. However, my husband suggested clicking the mouse before writing anything. This worked. In fact, when I made an error, I had to hit the mouse in order to select and delete. Everything else on the site worked as usual. This seems an odd issue. Is there an alternative to the mouse click? (Also, nothing I typed was echoed back as I did so; I had to back-track to check. Just because this kind of thing interests me, does anyone know what might cause this issue? Is it an SL bug? A fluke? Christine On May 6, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: > hello; I just went to the form. I'm running lion. I tabbed to each field > and typed in my information. i used shift plus tab to go back and check and > all my info was correctly imputed. I didn't have a product code so i > couldn't complete the form. sometimes its best to just press command r to > refresh the screen. wish i could be of more help. take care, max > On May 6, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > >> Hello, all. I am trying to fill out a Web contact form at Snapple. It seems >> that all pop-ups and radio buttons are selecting correctly, but all edit >> boxes for name, address, phone number, and comments are not taking my >> inputs. I have tried interacting, writing the information elsewhere and >> cutting and pasting, and just inputting directly. Either VoiceOver is not >> reading what I am putting in the edit boxes, or my entries are not being >> accepted. Obviously, I cannot contact them to let them know of this. :) >> Could someone please take a look and let me know what you think? TIA. >> Christine >> http://www.econsumeraffairs.com/am_bev/contactus.htm?F1=snapple >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iBird
I have a question as well. The information for the app stated you could search by bird sound -- but this implies there is a place in the app where one can browse bird sounds. I cannot find such a place. Any help is appreciated. Christine On May 10, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi guys. > After Esther put the information on about iBird, i got it and am having a lot > of fun with it. Here's my question, though, if anybody knows. If you want to > do a search for birds in Texas and Louisiana, how do you do it? I got the > check boxes checked for both states, but I couldn't find the button or > whatever to tell it to list them. I did browse the list of all 900 or so, but > how, with VoiceOver on, that is, do you get just those in Texas and Louisiana? > > The other thing is, can you get the range of the birds listed in words and > not a map? > > Regards, > Gigi > > Eugenia Firth > gigifi...@sbcglobal.net > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Valiantly Trying -- And Miserably Failing -- To Post on Wordpress.com
Good day/night to all. I have a blog on wordpress.com, and typically, every few months, I have to experiment to figure out how to post because of changes made to the layout of the add new post screen. With some trial and error, I have been able to do this for several iterations of wordpress.com "upgrades". However, tonight I am stumped. Where most recently, there was an edit box under "Enter title here," and then another right afterwards into which either one wrote or inserted a prewritten post, I cannot for the life of me locate the proper editing field for the post contents. I have tried several edit boxes, and all result in the appearance of the text, but a word count of zero, and no appearance of the post except for the title upon publication. I do notice one edit box that is dimmed, and I refreshed the screen, left Safari and came back in and started things up again, and tried clicking on the dimmed edit box several times. If anyone is on wordpress and can give me a clue as to what to do, I would appreciate it oh so much. I am using a Macbook with Snow Leopard. TIA. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Valiantly Trying -- And Miserably Failing -- To Post on Wordpress.com
Hi, Maria and Ricardo. Thanks for the tip about Mars edit, but I am confused. The only problem I am having is locating the proper edit field out of the many into which to paste a prewritten, pre-edited post I write in either Text Edit or in Apple Mail. How will Mars edit help with this? Thanks. Christine On Jun 4, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I suggest investing in Mars edit. Its completely accessible. You can find > it in the Mac app store. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jun 3, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> Good day/night to all. I have a blog on wordpress.com, and typically, every >> few months, I have to experiment to figure out how to post because of >> changes made to the layout of the add new post screen. With some trial and >> error, I have been able to do this for several iterations of wordpress.com >> "upgrades". However, tonight I am stumped. >> Where most recently, there was an edit box under "Enter title here," and >> then another right afterwards into which either one wrote or inserted a >> prewritten post, I cannot for the life of me locate the proper editing field >> for the post contents. I have tried several edit boxes, and all result in >> the appearance of the text, but a word count of zero, and no appearance of >> the post except for the title upon publication. >> I do notice one edit box that is dimmed, and I refreshed the screen, left >> Safari and came back in and started things up again, and tried clicking on >> the dimmed edit box several times. >> If anyone is on wordpress and can give me a clue as to what to do, I would >> appreciate it oh so much. I am using a Macbook with Snow Leopard. >> TIA. >> Christine >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: uninstalling chrome
Hi Kimsan, yes or at least that what I would do. Go to the application folder, find google crome, bring up the context menu wit VO shift M, go down to delete close the window with Command W, then just command shift and the backspace key to empty the trash. All done and dusted! Just out of interest, why do you want to get rid of crome? I am thinking the same in the beginning when I used it it was accessible but lately I have found that Say all is broken you can't edit edit fields promptly due to me having my typing curser always to the right and finally I noticed serious slowness in typing in edit boxes. The only thing I like about it is that its really fast at loading pages! Daniel On 10 Jun 2012, at 19:45, Kimsan wrote: > Kimsan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Strange mail issue: "this message cannot be sent by the server" etc.
Why are some of my messages being sent out with no problem, while others are getting a "cannot send message using this server" message? There is seemingly no rhyme or reason to what is being "rejected" and kept in my Outbox. Thanks for any ideas. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
From Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion: Should This Be Doable Without Any Intermediate Steps?
I have never done an upgrade on my MacBook. Is there anything specific I must do in order to accomplish the jump? Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion
I'm having trouble determining if I can upgrade my MacBook. On the tech specs page, it seems to indicate that only the aluminum MacBooks can be upgraded (along with Mbp, Mb Air, Mb Mini, and iMac). I bought my MacBook in February, 2011. I've got a 2.4 ghz Intel Core 2 Dup processor. Am I okay? Christine On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > It's $19.99 > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:55 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion > > Is it free to upgrade or will a person have to pay? > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:24 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Loving Mountain Lion > > Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days, maybe > today, and I'll keep this all in mind. > > On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I >> played with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will >> cover some of the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion. >> First off, I am not an uber mac user, just a standard user with little >> to no experience with understanding anything outside fundamentals of >> Coive > Over. >> >> Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no >> worries. Just make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did >> to prepare for the install was update my billing information. I did >> not update any software, run the checker, or anything else as my >> system is > a Mac Mini from last year. >> The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button >> to logging in. >> >> Notification Center Set up: >> First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to >> the shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the >> Notification Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I >> am using Command Option Shift N for mine. >> >> Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to >> the Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that >> use the Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive >> either an alert, banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do >> on the iPhone and iPad. >> >> Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center. >> To move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button. >> >> Messaging >> I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only >> sent a message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you >> need to dig it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift >> A or go through finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and >> insert your iCloud information. You will also want to go into the >> dock, and find the Message App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option >> and then keep in Dock. I say this, cause you will want this in your >> dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut for it. >> >> The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is, >> iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with >> the same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations >> from your Mac and then pick it up while traveling. >> >> Dictation >> Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go >> back to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation >> and > Speech. >> Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an >> activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of >> either the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other >> combination. When you are in a text field, double tap the key you >> selected > and start talking. >> When you are done, double tap it again. >> Thank you for your assistance, >> Timothy Hornik >> timothy.hor...@gmail.com >> H: 785.856.1172 >> M: 785.330.3503 >> LinkedIn Profile: http://tiny.cc/7bfa5 >> Blog: http://www.samobile.net/users/timothy.hornik/ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from GMail website) > mehg...@gmail.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To u
Re: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion
Great. Thanks. :) On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: > Hi Christine, > Yu should be able to upgrade your macbook just fine. Mine is just the white > macbook from February, 2010 with 4 GB ram and I upgraded it fine today. > > Doug > > On 2012-07-25, at 3:31 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > >> I'm having trouble determining if I can upgrade my MacBook. On the tech >> specs page, it seems to indicate that only the aluminum MacBooks can be >> upgraded (along with Mbp, Mb Air, Mb Mini, and iMac). I bought my MacBook in >> February, 2011. I've got a 2.4 ghz Intel Core 2 Dup processor. Am I okay? >> Christine >> On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: >> >>> It's $19.99 >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:55 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion >>> >>> Is it free to upgrade or will a person have to pay? >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:24 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Loving Mountain Lion >>> >>> Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days, maybe >>> today, and I'll keep this all in mind. >>> >>> On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik wrote: >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I >>>> played with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will >>>> cover some of the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion. >>>> First off, I am not an uber mac user, just a standard user with little >>>> to no experience with understanding anything outside fundamentals of >>>> Coive >>> Over. >>>> >>>> Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no >>>> worries. Just make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did >>>> to prepare for the install was update my billing information. I did >>>> not update any software, run the checker, or anything else as my >>>> system is >>> a Mac Mini from last year. >>>> The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button >>>> to logging in. >>>> >>>> Notification Center Set up: >>>> First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to >>>> the shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the >>>> Notification Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I >>>> am using Command Option Shift N for mine. >>>> >>>> Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to >>>> the Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that >>>> use the Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive >>>> either an alert, banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do >>>> on the iPhone and iPad. >>>> >>>> Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center. >>>> To move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button. >>>> >>>> Messaging >>>> I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only >>>> sent a message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you >>>> need to dig it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift >>>> A or go through finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and >>>> insert your iCloud information. You will also want to go into the >>>> dock, and find the Message App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option >>>> and then keep in Dock. I say this, cause you will want this in your >>>> dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut for it. >>>> >>>> The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is, >>>> iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with >>>> the same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations >>>> from your Mac and then pick it up while traveling. >>>> >>>> Dictation >>>> Yeah, this works awes
Am I Missing Something Regarding New Voices?
Hey, folks. Ever since I got my MacBook, I stuck with Alex because I did not really like any of the other voices. I understood that aside from Alex, Bruce, Fred, Cathy, Vicky, and Victoria, any other voices would have to be downloaded and/or purchased from other sources. I was not even aware I could have a different accent. I went into the VoiceOver utility just now, and checked out Speech, and this still seems to be the case. What am I missing? Where are other voices, and how can I, if desired, change the accent? Thanks. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Busy, busy everywhere
Since installing ML, I am noticing a huge increase in "busy" messages in Mail, Safari, Finder -- everywhere. Exceedingly annoying. Sometimes, toggling VO off and on helps, but often not. Also, I've noticed that whenever I have to use VO space for anything, it almost always requires a second or third press. Thoughts? Experiences? Work-arounds? TIA. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Busy, busy everywhere
I have no idea what this means. :) On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I suggest repairing permissions in disk utilities. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> Since installing ML, I am noticing a huge increase in "busy" messages in >> Mail, Safari, Finder -- everywhere. Exceedingly annoying. Sometimes, >> toggling VO off and on helps, but often not. >> Also, I've noticed that whenever I have to use VO space for anything, it >> almost always requires a second or third press. Thoughts? Experiences? >> Work-arounds? TIA. >> Christine >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Busy, busy everywhere
I've got a thirteen-inch white MacBook purchased in February 2011. On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:54 AM, "Daniel Miller" wrote: > Christine, > > What kind of mac do you have? > Also, to repair disc permitions, go to disc utility, select the disc in the > table, and VO+right arrow over to repair disc permitions. Make sure you're > on the first aid tab first. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 10:48 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Busy, busy everywhere > > I have no idea what this means. :) > On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I suggest repairing permissions in disk utilities. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Christine Grassman > wrote: >> >>> Since installing ML, I am noticing a huge increase in "busy" messages in > Mail, Safari, Finder -- everywhere. Exceedingly annoying. Sometimes, > toggling VO off and on helps, but often not. >>> Also, I've noticed that whenever I have to use VO space for anything, it > almost always requires a second or third press. Thoughts? Experiences? > Work-arounds? TIA. >>> Christine >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Busy, busy everywhere
I repaired disk permissions as suggested by Ricardo, and so far, so good. (pauses to cross fingers). Christine On Jul 27, 2012, at 1:38 PM, "Daniel Miller" wrote: > She does have a white MacBook. However, I had one as well, and encountered > tons of busy messages with Lion. I believe those machines only had 2GB of > ram stock, so that's what's causing her busy issues. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pete Nalda > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 12:36 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Busy, busy everywhere > > I thought this was so, so was posting on account of Christine saying she > had a white MacBook. > > Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates Louie P. (Pete) Nalda > Http://www.myspace.com/lpnalda Http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda > Http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda > Twitter @lpnalda > > > > On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:33 PM, "Daniel Miller" wrote: > >> .MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer) >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pete Nalda >> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 12:15 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Busy, busy everywhere >> >> I hope I'm wrong on this, but I thought the silver MacBooks were the >> earliest that could run Mountain Lion. >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates Louie P. (Pete) Nalda >> Http://www.myspace.com/lpnalda Http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda >> Http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda >> Twitter @lpnalda >> >> >> >> On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:09 PM, "Daniel Miller" wrote: >> >>> How much ram and processor speed? Go to about this mac. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine >>> Grassman >>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 10:56 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Busy, busy everywhere >>> >>> I've got a thirteen-inch white MacBook purchased in February 2011. >>> >>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:54 AM, "Daniel Miller" > wrote: >>> >>>> Christine, >>>> >>>> What kind of mac do you have? >>>> Also, to repair disc permitions, go to disc utility, select the disc >>>> in the table, and VO+right arrow over to repair disc permitions. >>>> Make sure you're on the first aid tab first. >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine >>>> Grassman >>>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 10:48 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Busy, busy everywhere >>>> >>>> I have no idea what this means. :) >>>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Ricardo Walker >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I suggest repairing permissions in disk utilities. >>>>> >>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Christine Grassman >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Since installing ML, I am noticing a huge increase in "busy" >>>>>> messages in >>>> Mail, Safari, Finder -- everywhere. Exceedingly annoying. Sometimes, >>>> toggling VO off and on helps, but often not. >>>>>> Also, I've noticed that whenever I have to use VO space for >>>>>> anything, it >>>> almost always requires a second or third press. Thoughts? Experiences? >>>> Work-arounds? TIA. >>>>>> Christine >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@google
Exceedingly frustrating problem trying to attach file to e-mail
OK, so I've got a few pdf's in my downloads folder, and I want to place them in Documents so that I can attach them. Going into preview with ML, I went into the file menu and tried Save, but it isn't giving me the ability to change the name and save them in documents. So, I tried going to the sidebar when interacting with the tool bar, to attach, but each time I try to move over to "Today" for files which were open today, I get a "mail busy" and I get knocked into the headers fields. I have tried multiple times, and cannot get to "Today". I tried searching for pdf" -- and it won't pull up the pdf's in the downloads folder. In the list of places where I wish to select files, I do not see a choice for downloads folder. I have tried selecting and copying the files from downloads into documents -- but it will not work. I am at my wit's end. Any ideas would be helpful; I have been trying to find a workaround for over an hour, and I am rather fed up. TIA. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Oh, Another Frustrating Thing
Spotlight is not working as it did in SL. Every time I hit vo plus M three times rapidly, I hear "menu extras" -- and when I try to interact to get more information, it says "sync menu extra" and does nothing more. Is there some file or other I can read that will spell out these issues/changes for me. When I looked at some information about Ml, I saw nothing about this stuff. G. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Oh, Another Frustrating Thing
That's awesome. Thanks. So, where are you finding these terrific shortcuts? What documentation should I be perusing? Christine On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > If you want to get to the Spotlight search box very quickly, simply hold down > the command key and hit the spacebar. Spotlight search will popup. To exit, > simply press Escape. > > Chris > On 28 Jul 2012, at 18:28, "Daniel Miller" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> You can't do that anymore. The spotlight menu is now at the right of the >> Extras menu, aka status menus. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman >> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:12 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Oh, Another Frustrating Thing >> >> Spotlight is not working as it did in SL. Every time I hit vo plus M three >> times rapidly, I hear "menu extras" -- and when I try to interact to get >> more information, it says "sync menu extra" and does nothing more. Is there >> some file or other I can read that will spell out these issues/changes for >> me. When I looked at some information about Ml, I saw nothing about this >> stuff. >> G. >> Christine >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Twitter in 10.8 (was: Re: Observations about mountain lion so far)
I can't find Twitter in the Notification Center, and I'm signed in to Twitter, and according to the apps section on Twitter, Apple integration has permission. So I am confuzzled. :) On Jul 29, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > I don't see a way to do this. Come to think of it, I haven't yet connected my > mac to twitter, and have not seen a preference for it. I googled it, but was > unable to find an answer as to how to actually get my mac connected to my > twitter account. > On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Keith Watson wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Well rather than firing up a twitter app and navigating to where you would >> post, why not just hit the notification center and post from there? They are >> not trying to do away with your favorite client. They are just making it >> easier to post to twitter and shortly Facebook without having to open a >> dedicated client. >> >> Keith >> >> On Jul 29, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I'm curious why you would use the default at all. I mean, why not just >>> manage your twitter through your favorite client to begin with? That is, >>> what does ML offer for twitter that makes it worth bothering with? I'm not >>> trying to stir anything up, I honestly don't know. I know ML has twitter >>> integration, but I'm not sure how it works or what exactly it does. >>> On 29 Jul 2012, at 09:25, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hi, nope. The only way you can reply is to interact with the mention or message in the notifications table and then perform a mouse click with VO shift spacebar. Then, Safari will open up to twitters page. Not very efficient. I think we should suggest Apple adds a feature that allows replies to tweets using ones default twitter client. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 29, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > I'm generally very satisfied with Mountain Lion too. I wish i could make > replies to mentions and direct messages from Twitter directly in the > notification center, maybe there's a way, although i haven't found any. > Anyone else who knows about this? > This message has been entirely typed, because some features like > dictation are not available outside the "big" languages like English, > French, German and Japaneze. > /Krister > > 28 jul 2012 kl. 21:38 skrev Ray Foret Jr : > >> Well Mark, I totally agree with you. This message has been dictated, >> using that dictation. Pretty accurate, would you consider the fact that >> I'm using a desk Mike instead of the headphone Mike. >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >> >> Skype name: >> barefootedray >> >> On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter >> wrote: >> >>> Hello. >>> >>> I have been having a lot of fun with Mountain lion these last few days, >>> and I would like to comment on what you said. >>> >>> I, too, by the way, I'm dictating this entire letter. Just because I >>> can. >>> >>> In the first place, the instances of the web loading noise being made >>> by voice over being intermittent is still happening to me. Eat.G that, >>> sometimes voiceover will make the loaded complete noise, and sometimes >>> it will not. I do not see any factors which are consistent between >>> these times. However, being on broadband cable, I usually just assume >>> that a webpage loads within three or four seconds, and act accordingly. >>> It should not lead me astray so far. >>> >>> About notification Center: I think it was designed, as was the OS, for >>> sighted people. That having been said, Apple should be highly >>> applauded, as I have commented before, at its universal accessibility. >>> This does not mean, however, that notification Center must necessarily >>> be adapted for voiceover users; in the case of many voiceover users, as >>> has been discussed, there is no real need for it, given the redundancy >>> of alerts and messages we already received. This may not be the case, >>> however, presided users, who often used to split the computer with >>> little to no audio enhancement, unfortunately. >>> >>> Okay, I am about done having fun with dictation. Dictated but not read, >>> sincerely >>> >>> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter >>> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>> • My home page: >>> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegrou
Re: Twitter in 10.8 (was: Re: Observations about mountain lion so far)
Ah, I believe I'll give this a whirl. Thanks. On Jul 29, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Rachel Feinberg wrote: > To connect to twitter: > Go to system preferences, mail, contacts, calendars setting. then you'll find > an internet accounts table. Interact with that, and vo down arrow to twitter. > Then you can stop interacting, and go to the add button. You'll be asked for > your twitter credentials, and should be all set from there. > Rachel > On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> I don't see a way to do this. Come to think of it, I haven't yet connected >> my mac to twitter, and have not seen a preference for it. I googled it, but >> was unable to find an answer as to how to actually get my mac connected to >> my twitter account. >> On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Keith Watson wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Well rather than firing up a twitter app and navigating to where you would >>> post, why not just hit the notification center and post from there? They >>> are not trying to do away with your favorite client. They are just making >>> it easier to post to twitter and shortly Facebook without having to open a >>> dedicated client. >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> Hi all, I'm curious why you would use the default at all. I mean, why not just manage your twitter through your favorite client to begin with? That is, what does ML offer for twitter that makes it worth bothering with? I'm not trying to stir anything up, I honestly don't know. I know ML has twitter integration, but I'm not sure how it works or what exactly it does. On 29 Jul 2012, at 09:25, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > nope. The only way you can reply is to interact with the mention or > message in the notifications table and then perform a mouse click with VO > shift spacebar. Then, Safari will open up to twitters page. Not very > efficient. I think we should suggest Apple adds a feature that allows > replies to tweets using ones default twitter client. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jul 29, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Krister Ekstrom > wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm generally very satisfied with Mountain Lion too. I wish i could make >> replies to mentions and direct messages from Twitter directly in the >> notification center, maybe there's a way, although i haven't found any. >> Anyone else who knows about this? >> This message has been entirely typed, because some features like >> dictation are not available outside the "big" languages like English, >> French, German and Japaneze. >> /Krister >> >> 28 jul 2012 kl. 21:38 skrev Ray Foret Jr : >> >>> Well Mark, I totally agree with you. This message has been dictated, >>> using that dictation. Pretty accurate, would you consider the fact that >>> I'm using a desk Mike instead of the headphone Mike. >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>> >>> Skype name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter >>> wrote: >>> Hello. I have been having a lot of fun with Mountain lion these last few days, and I would like to comment on what you said. I, too, by the way, I'm dictating this entire letter. Just because I can. In the first place, the instances of the web loading noise being made by voice over being intermittent is still happening to me. Eat.G that, sometimes voiceover will make the loaded complete noise, and sometimes it will not. I do not see any factors which are consistent between these times. However, being on broadband cable, I usually just assume that a webpage loads within three or four seconds, and act accordingly. It should not lead me astray so far. About notification Center: I think it was designed, as was the OS, for sighted people. That having been said, Apple should be highly applauded, as I have commented before, at its universal accessibility. This does not mean, however, that notification Center must necessarily be adapted for voiceover users; in the case of many voiceover users, as has been discussed, there is no real need for it, given the redundancy of alerts and messages we already received. This may not be the case, however, presided users, who often used to split the computer with little to no audio enhancement, unfortunately. Okay, I am about done having fun with dictation. Dictated but not read, sincerely • Mark BurningHawk Baxter >>>
Re: Twitter in 10.8 (was: Re: Observations about mountain lion so far)
Hmm, wonder why I didn't get that when I went onto Twitter? That would've been lovely. On Jul 29, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > Okay, I see how you did that, but I didn't do it that way; all I had to do > was go to the Twitter page via Safari and a little dialog came up asking me > if I wanted to allow Apple's apps to access my Twitter account. I said sure, > what the heck, and Twitter is now showing privates and mentions of me in > Notification Center, which is the most promising use I see for it so far. > I"m actually rather happy about this. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Cannot download from bookshare.org
Have any bookshare subscribers who use Mountain Lion downloaded any books since updating? I keep hitting download in daisy and nothing is happening. I've tried VO plus space, as well as hitting the enter key. Not a thing is happening, not even an error message. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New from TidBITS: Prep for Mountain Lion with New Take Control Ebook from Joe Kissell
Available on bookshare as of Friday. On Jul 29, 2012, at 7:47 PM, "Laura ann Grymes, LMT" wrote: > I preordered both to prepare for Mountain Lion. > Reading them on my IPhone in Ibooks. > Laura Ann > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
What on earth is this new oddity: where are my windows?
If I have Safari and Mail, open, as an example, I should be able to switch between them. However, as soon as I open a new application, and then try to switch back, I have to keep going to the dock and going to the application and choosing it again. Since updating ML, until today, I was successfully switching between open applications. What's up with this? User error or ignorance, I'm sure. :) Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: What on earth is this new oddity: where are my windows?
Don't think I checked any boxes, but the reboot worked like a charm. On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > If you hear the Funk noise every time you press Command Tab, then you're > encountering the same thing I had happen the other day. I was playing around > in Messages, and checked a box, which is when it started. It's been > suggested to try turning off and on VoiceOver; what worked for me was a > restart, then unchecking that pesky box. If you didn't check that box in > Messages, then…. who knows. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Bookshare update
Hello all. Last night, I wrote about some downloading issues with bookshare, but in fact, there was no problem -- there was simply no way to tell that the download occurred, as there had been in the past. They did occur, however. As far as reading bookshare books in Daisy, the .xml file reads quite well in Safari. Meanwhile, I just received an e-mail from Bookshare stating that downloading will soon be more streamlined: essentially, one will be able to choose their download file preference (which can be changed at any time), and a pop-up menu will replace the current list of icons for downloading daisy with images, daisy, brf, audio, and mp3. Also, your history will by default contain thirty days of download history, but you can change the filter to look further back. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bookshare update
If you are in the U.S. and a student in primary or secondary school, it costs nothing; you merely need to prove that you have a print disability. If you are not a student in elementary, middle, or high school, however, the subscription cost is $50 per year. I use it so often that this price is worth it to me. I am not sure of any restrictions with regard to non-U.S. subscribers. Christine On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:42 AM, "Krysti .Power" wrote: > How much does bookshare cost I'm looking into regestering > > On 2012-07-30 11:27 AM, "Christine Grassman" wrote: > Hello all. Last night, I wrote about some downloading issues with bookshare, > but in fact, there was no problem -- there was simply no way to tell that the > download occurred, as there had been in the past. They did occur, however. > As far as reading bookshare books in Daisy, the .xml file reads quite well in > Safari. > Meanwhile, I just received an e-mail from Bookshare stating that downloading > will soon be more streamlined: essentially, one will be able to choose their > download file preference (which can be changed at any time), and a pop-up > menu will replace the current list of icons for downloading daisy with > images, daisy, brf, audio, and mp3. Also, your history will by default > contain thirty days of download history, but you can change the filter to > look further back. > Christine > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bookshare update
Not sure about alternative payments, but you should be able to find that at the membership page on the site. I was verified as an NLS subscriber, which was enough documentation for bookshare. https://www.bookshare.org/_/membership/overview Christine On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:15 AM, "Krysti .Power" wrote: > It would be worth it to me is there any other payment method besides credit > card and does my eye doc got to fill it out or can my family doctor fill it > out > > On 2012-07-30 11:59 AM, "Christine Grassman" wrote: > If you are in the U.S. and a student in primary or secondary school, it costs > nothing; you merely need to prove that you have a print disability. > If you are not a student in elementary, middle, or high school, however, the > subscription cost is $50 per year. I use it so often that this price is worth > it to me. > I am not sure of any restrictions with regard to non-U.S. subscribers. > Christine > On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:42 AM, "Krysti .Power" wrote: > >> How much does bookshare cost I'm looking into regestering >> >> On 2012-07-30 11:27 AM, "Christine Grassman" wrote: >> Hello all. Last night, I wrote about some downloading issues with bookshare, >> but in fact, there was no problem -- there was simply no way to tell that >> the download occurred, as there had been in the past. They did occur, >> however. >> As far as reading bookshare books in Daisy, the .xml file reads quite well >> in Safari. >> Meanwhile, I just received an e-mail from Bookshare stating that downloading >> will soon be more streamlined: essentially, one will be able to choose their >> download file preference (which can be changed at any time), and a pop-up >> menu will replace the current list of icons for downloading daisy with >> images, daisy, brf, audio, and mp3. Also, your history will by default >> contain thirty days of download history, but you can change the filter to >> look further back. >> Christine >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bookshare update
Didn't know that; I frankly haven't looked at the membership info since joining five years ago. :) This makes me very happy, since my daughter is off to college next year and her brother will follow suit in a few years. I love bookshare almost as much as I love my iPhone and my Mac. I often find myself feeling a tad envious of my kids; I would have had such a completely different experience growing up with the wealth of information these resources provide. Just two examples: not receiving my Braille textbooks on time would not have made much of a difference if I had bookshare and/or iBooks, and reading children's and young adult books, let alone newspapers at the same time as others, would have meant the world to me, as it does today. Christine On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > I'd just like to add that, as far as I know, college sutdents also get in for > free. Once you prove your disability, you need only send them your college > email address and they will verify it and give you a subscription for a year > from the time you do this. > On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> Not sure about alternative payments, but you should be able to find that at >> the membership page on the site. >> I was verified as an NLS subscriber, which was enough documentation for >> bookshare. >> https://www.bookshare.org/_/membership/overview >> Christine >> >> On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:15 AM, "Krysti .Power" >> wrote: >> >>> It would be worth it to me is there any other payment method besides credit >>> card and does my eye doc got to fill it out or can my family doctor fill it >>> out >>> >>> On 2012-07-30 11:59 AM, "Christine Grassman" >>> wrote: >>> If you are in the U.S. and a student in primary or secondary school, it >>> costs nothing; you merely need to prove that you have a print disability. >>> If you are not a student in elementary, middle, or high school, however, >>> the subscription cost is $50 per year. I use it so often that this price is >>> worth it to me. >>> I am not sure of any restrictions with regard to non-U.S. subscribers. >>> Christine >>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:42 AM, "Krysti .Power" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> How much does bookshare cost I'm looking into regestering >>>> >>>> On 2012-07-30 11:27 AM, "Christine Grassman" >>>> wrote: >>>> Hello all. Last night, I wrote about some downloading issues with >>>> bookshare, but in fact, there was no problem -- there was simply no way to >>>> tell that the download occurred, as there had been in the past. They did >>>> occur, however. >>>> As far as reading bookshare books in Daisy, the .xml file reads quite well >>>> in Safari. >>>> Meanwhile, I just received an e-mail from Bookshare stating that >>>> downloading will soon be more streamlined: essentially, one will be able >>>> to choose their download file preference (which can be changed at any >>>> time), and a pop-up menu will replace the current list of icons for >>>> downloading daisy with images, daisy, brf, audio, and mp3. Also, your >>>> history will by default contain thirty days of download history, but you >>>> can change the filter to look further back. >>>> Christine >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this grou
Re: Bookshare update
Yes -- and there is an excellent iPhone app, Read to Go, that costs $19.99, -- at least it did when I purchased it when it came out. On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:54 AM, "Krysti .Power" wrote: > Are they accessiable with VO > > On 2012-07-30 12:52 PM, "Krysti .Power" wrote: > Thanks for all the help > > On 2012-07-30 12:38 PM, "Alex Hall" wrote: > I'd just like to add that, as far as I know, college sutdents also get in for > free. Once you prove your disability, you need only send them your college > email address and they will verify it and give you a subscription for a year > from the time you do this. > On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> Not sure about alternative payments, but you should be able to find that at >> the membership page on the site. >> I was verified as an NLS subscriber, which was enough documentation for >> bookshare. >> https://www.bookshare.org/_/membership/overview >> Christine >> >> On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:15 AM, "Krysti .Power" >> wrote: >> >>> It would be worth it to me is there any other payment method besides credit >>> card and does my eye doc got to fill it out or can my family doctor fill it >>> out >>> >>> On 2012-07-30 11:59 AM, "Christine Grassman" >>> wrote: >>> If you are in the U.S. and a student in primary or secondary school, it >>> costs nothing; you merely need to prove that you have a print disability. >>> If you are not a student in elementary, middle, or high school, however, >>> the subscription cost is $50 per year. I use it so often that this price is >>> worth it to me. >>> I am not sure of any restrictions with regard to non-U.S. subscribers. >>> Christine >>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:42 AM, "Krysti .Power" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> How much does bookshare cost I'm looking into regestering >>>> >>>> On 2012-07-30 11:27 AM, "Christine Grassman" >>>> wrote: >>>> Hello all. Last night, I wrote about some downloading issues with >>>> bookshare, but in fact, there was no problem -- there was simply no way to >>>> tell that the download occurred, as there had been in the past. They did >>>> occur, however. >>>> As far as reading bookshare books in Daisy, the .xml file reads quite well >>>> in Safari. >>>> Meanwhile, I just received an e-mail from Bookshare stating that >>>> downloading will soon be more streamlined: essentially, one will be able >>>> to choose their download file preference (which can be changed at any >>>> time), and a pop-up menu will replace the current list of icons for >>>> downloading daisy with images, daisy, brf, audio, and mp3. Also, your >>>> history will by default contain thirty days of download history, but you >>>> can change the filter to look further back. >>>> Christine >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisiona
Re: reading Bookshare with Safari was a disaster
I've read bookshare books in Safari since installing ML, and haven't had a problem. To be perfectly honest, though, I take what I guess is the lazy way out -- I essentially note a page or phrase and then search for it when I reopen later. I've never tried using webspots, bookmarks, or anything like that. Christine On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > Hi all, > I downloaded a daisy book and opened its xml file with chrome first. I could > not even find the text or an html area, so I gave that up and switched to > safari. I read a few lines after figuring out the heading structure, then set > a web spot so I could come back to the same place later. I was able to get to > my webspot with no trouble, but then I closed and re-opened the file. When I > tried to get to the webspot again, I lost speech. I have no idea what > happened, but five minutes later vo suddenly came up speaking and I was able > to quit safari. I have never had that happen in chrome, though I have also > never played with webspots before. Might this be user error, a Mountain Lion > problem, or should I not try this again at all? Thanks. > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Cannot open attachments anymore
I am interacting with the text and have tried pressing Vo space to open; have tried Enter; have moved about the message content table and tabbed through the choices; looked in message headers. I cannot figure out either how to download or open the attachment. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Attachments
Although it doesn't work for me in attachments, vo space works most of the time if you hold it down for a second, and then release. Since I started doing this, it's reliable 95 percent of the time. Christine On Aug 4, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > The VO-shift-m works for me although VO-space does appear to be broken in ML. > If VO-shift-m is not working for you, you can go under the File menu and > choose Save Attachment. Alternatively, you can press cmd-y while on that > message to QuickLook the Attachment. You could also navigate to the Message > Header area and locate the Save Attachment pop-up or QuickLook button. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On 2012-08-04, at 9:55 AM, Craig J Dunlop wrote: > >> On my MBP with Mountain lion I am having an issue with attachments. When I >> find the embedded attachment I do VO shift M and no menu comes up. Does >> anyone have any ideas? The attachment will open just fine on my iPhone >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Attachments
LOL. That happened when I tried to download from bookshare. Had no clue it was working; there was no indication, and next thing I know, the book in question was downloaded fifteen times in my downloads folder. Can't seem to delete them either. If anyone knows how to do that, drop me a note. :) On Aug 4, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > The other 5% of the time, you buy 18 items because VO space fires off in > key-repeat mode while holding it down. *grin* > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Attachments
Tred that, but didn't work -- but I'll try again. On Aug 4, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > bwahahaha! I'm good. Okay: to delete them, Go to Finder, and navigate to the > Downloads folder. There, you'll find a whole bunch of files with the same > name and different numbers after them. Delete all but one by selecting them, > holding down the shift and using arrows to cursor over them all, and hitting > command Delete. This will send them to the trash. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Attachments
OK, here's the weird thing. If I go to the dock, then arrow over to Downloads, then use vo M to interact with the list of downloads in the folder, select things I want to delete, and then hit delete, it does not work. However, if I manage to get to the Downloads folder right in Finder, which for some reason I cannot always do, files delete. Why the difference? On Aug 4, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > Didn't work? Um. I don't understand. Depending on how browsers are displayed > in your Finder, I can walk you through it at a more detailed level if you > need. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
REally getting p/o'd with trying to search Mac with ML
OK, folks, I'm at that "I would love to be able, without dire consequences, to throw this thing across the room." Whether I try to use Spotlight or Finder to search for things, interacting does not help, and if by chance I get what I'm looking for in the list, pressing Vo space doesn't open it for me. Anyone have hints/tips/anger management strategies? (Latter is just kidding. Really.) Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: REally getting p/o'd with trying to search Mac with ML
It's on. Never have shut it off, as far as I know. On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Check in VO Utility to see what cursors are following each other. If they > appear to be normal, make sure that cursor tracking is still on. Sometimes, > you turn it off for some reason but forget to turn it back on and then things > can get frustrating. Press VO-shift-f3 and VO should announce "Cursor > tracking On" or "Cursor tracking Off". You should want it on. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On 2012-08-06, at 10:42 AM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> OK, folks, I'm at that "I would love to be able, without dire consequences, >> to throw this thing across the room." Whether I try to use Spotlight or >> Finder to search for things, interacting does not help, and if by chance I >> get what I'm looking for in the list, pressing Vo space doesn't open it for >> me. Anyone have hints/tips/anger management strategies? (Latter is just >> kidding. Really.) >> Christine >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: REally getting p/o'd with trying to search Mac with ML
Tim, do me a favor. Either here or in a private message, describe how it is displaying for you when you put in a search term in Spotlight. I get a "show in finder" which doesn't seem to do anything, followed by a list of finds. However, when I try to choose one of the finds, it disappears, and I then am faced with "search for (search term or phrase) on the Web, followed by the same for WikiPedia, etc. I can never get back to the original list or open any finds; if I switch to finder, it only shows whatever finder window was open before I started. Christine On Aug 6, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hmmm. Not sure then as I cannot duplicate this. It works properly for me. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On 2012-08-06, at 11:24 AM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> It's on. Never have shut it off, as far as I know. >> On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >>> Check in VO Utility to see what cursors are following each other. If they >>> appear to be normal, make sure that cursor tracking is still on. >>> Sometimes, you turn it off for some reason but forget to turn it back on >>> and then things can get frustrating. Press VO-shift-f3 and VO should >>> announce "Cursor tracking On" or "Cursor tracking Off". You should want it >>> on. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On 2012-08-06, at 10:42 AM, Christine Grassman >>> wrote: >>> >>>> OK, folks, I'm at that "I would love to be able, without dire >>>> consequences, to throw this thing across the room." Whether I try to use >>>> Spotlight or Finder to search for things, interacting does not help, and >>>> if by chance I get what I'm looking for in the list, pressing Vo space >>>> doesn't open it for me. Anyone have hints/tips/anger management >>>> strategies? (Latter is just kidding. Really.) >>>> Christine >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
So Why on Earth Does Mission Control Just Pop Up Unexpectedly With That Weird Noise?
This is happening a few times a day, in Mail, in Safari, while searching in Spotlight, while in the Finder, and so on. There's the Swish noise, and there it is, and I have to get out of it, or nothing works right. Very, very odd. I feel like it's jumping out and saying "Boo!" or "You're it!" Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Attachments issue again
Well, I'm able to open them. I'm able to download them. But apparently, when I open Preview or Text Edit, all of what is supposed to be there is not there, according to someone else who received the same attachments at issue. There were several pages not read, and not downloaded. What gives? Also, if there are two or more attachments, I cannot figure out how to select and save all, and there does not appear to be a "save all" that is presenting itself to me. (frustrated growl) Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Easiest Way to Read Bookshare Books in Mountain Lion
This is how I do it as well and I am perfectly content. Sent from my iPhone On 10/08/2012, at 2:55 PM, Greg Aikens wrote: > Check the archives for more in depth tips on this, but I'm still just opening > the xml file in Safari and reading it with VO. Maybe I'm still in the dark > ages. If others have better solutions, please enlighten me. > > -Greg > On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: > >> Hi, all, >> >> I don't have the money to upgrade my VMWare Fusion at the moment, otherwise >> I would read my Bookshare books through Kurzweil 1000, like normal. I think >> a few of you said you read your Bookshare books on the Mac, and I was >> wondering how you did this? The one solution I saw mentioned on >> bookshare.org said that the Mac software wasn't recommended to be sued with >> screen-readers, or something. >> >> Help is appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Harry >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Knowing when there are attachments
Don't know about that, but I use classic view, and if you know, or suspect, that there is an attachment, go down to the very bottom of the text in the message and if you see "imbedded" followed by a file title and size, there's your attachment. Another way to check is to go into the context menu, and see if you get a choice of "open attachment" or "save attachment". On Aug 11, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Bill Holton wrote: > Hi. > I am using mail in the classic view, and I'm wondering if there is any way to > show in that table that it a particular email has an attachment? There is a > field in the table for status but this shows up blank even when the email > does happen attachment. Is there something I need to change? > Thanks. > Bill > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Knowing when there are attachments
OK: 1. If you are interacting with the text, and you have located the imbedded attachment(s), pressing vo shit M will bring up choices which include opening or saving the attachment(s): although I confess to not being able to select and save "all" or more than one attachment using this method. 2. Another option is, from within the message, but not having to be on the imbedded attachment, hit vo plus M, right arrow to the file menu, and you will see "save attachments" as a choice, or "Quick Look" if you prefer. HTH. Christine On Aug 11, 2012, at 2:50 PM, "Christopher-Mark gilland" wrote: > When you say go to the context menu, where are we talking more specifically > about bringing up my context menu from? > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Christine Grassman" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 1:13 PM > Subject: Re: Knowing when there are attachments > > > Don't know about that, but I use classic view, and if you know, or suspect, > that there is an attachment, go down to the very bottom of the text in the > message and if you see "imbedded" followed by a file title and size, there's > your attachment. > Another way to check is to go into the context menu, and see if you get a > choice of "open attachment" or "save attachment". > On Aug 11, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Bill Holton wrote: > >> Hi. >> I am using mail in the classic view, and I'm wondering if there is any way >> to show in that table that it a particular email has an attachment? There is >> a field in the table for status but this shows up blank even when the email >> does happen attachment. Is there something I need to change? >> Thanks. >> Bill >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Knowing when there are attachments
Oops. Crap. LOL! APologies, folks! Now let me just make sure I wrote folks. :) Sent from my iPhone On 11/08/2012, at 4:05 PM, "Christopher-Mark gilland" wrote: > what is vo shit m. > > I didn't know vo was quote: shit. > > Look at your original message below. LOL! Sorry, I couldn't resist. > > Anyways, thank you for the help. LOL! > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Christine Grassman" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 3:36 PM > Subject: Re: Knowing when there are attachments > > > OK: > 1. If you are interacting with the text, and you have located the imbedded > attachment(s), pressing vo shit M will bring up choices which include > opening or saving the attachment(s): although I confess to not being able to > select and save "all" or more than one attachment using this method. > 2. Another option is, from within the message, but not having to be on the > imbedded attachment, hit vo plus M, right arrow to the file menu, and you > will see "save attachments" as a choice, or "Quick Look" if you prefer. HTH. > Christine > On Aug 11, 2012, at 2:50 PM, "Christopher-Mark gilland" > wrote: > >> When you say go to the context menu, where are we talking more specifically >> about bringing up my context menu from? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Christine Grassman" >> >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 1:13 PM >> Subject: Re: Knowing when there are attachments >> >> >> Don't know about that, but I use classic view, and if you know, or suspect, >> that there is an attachment, go down to the very bottom of the text in the >> message and if you see "imbedded" followed by a file title and size, there's >> your attachment. >> Another way to check is to go into the context menu, and see if you get a >> choice of "open attachment" or "save attachment". >> On Aug 11, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> I am using mail in the classic view, and I'm wondering if there is any way >>> to show in that table that it a particular email has an attachment? There >>> is a field in the table for status but this shows up blank even when the >>> email does happen attachment. Is there something I need to change? >>> Thanks. >>> Bill >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Easiest Way to Read Bookshare Books in Mountain Lion
I don't know whether this is only true of the newest additions to bookshare (over the last year or so) but lately when I download bookshare books, no unzipping is required. I just seek out the title and the .xml extension, and it opens in Safari when I hit enter. Is no one else experiencing this? Harry, I know in your case, you are dealing with previously downloaded books which you desire to open. A workaround, if you simply cannot get the unarchiver to work, is to redownload the book you wish to read from your book history. Hopefully, what I discussed above will then apply, and you will have your xml file all ready to go. Obviously, depending on the number of books you have, this may not be desirable as far as redownloading all of your book history, but you could do it one by one, as needed. Christine On Aug 12, 2012, at 9:07 PM, Harry Hogue wrote: > I simply would just remember where I had been reading and type a keyword or > two. What I would like to know now is how to associate .bks files with The > Unarchiver, as the checkbox to "Always open with this application," in > "Other…" and selecting the application does not hold, for some reason. Does > anyone knwo why this might be? > > Harry > > On Aug 12, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Greg Aikens wrote: > >> One way to get around this is to set a web spot at the place you left off. >> I haven't tried this under ML but in Lion it worked inconsistently and often >> I would forget to set a web spot when I finished reading, but it is better >> than nothing. >> >> -Greg >> On Aug 12, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Harry. I was wondering if you used Safari. Seems to me that means >>> you can't pick up where you left off in a book, right? That would be a big >>> drawback, I would think. How do you work around that/ >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> Mary Otten >>> motte...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Exceedingly scary and confounding problem with on-line banking account
Since upgrading to ML, I have paid some bills with my on-line banking site with no problems whatsoever. Today, though I was able to log on successfully multiple times, as soon as I attempted to do *anything* on the site, I was thrown off, and a "problem report" came up. When I tried to quit out of Safari and go back in again, there was the banking site, with the log-in page, waiting for my information again. I first closed all windows and tried again. No luck. I rebooted and tried again. No luck. I called my bank to ensure that no one besides me was attempting to log in. They said my log-ins were being recorded, and that only one IP address was recorded. Phew! I was then told to go in Security, uncheck Java script, but check Java, and uncheck "allow plug-ins". Then I was told to go to "empty cache" -- but I could not find this animal. The bank's tech rep said it should be the seventh choice down in the Safari menu, but I did not find it. The only thing I could find was "clear history" -- but could not find cookies, or clearing cache, etc., When I logged onto the account on my husband's Mac, all went fine. But no such luck on mine. What is going on? Any ideas? Is it okay to leave the Java, java script, and plug-ins as suggested by the bank rep, or should I return to default settings to avoid problems on other sites? Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Exceedingly scary and confounding problem with on-line banking account
I looked in Safari preferences, and under the Privacy tab, there is references to which cookies to allow, but I did not see any option for clearing them. I also cannot locate a general "empty cache" Looked in Security as well. . On Aug 14, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > The one good answer I can give you is that Cookies and clearing them is found > in Presences. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Exceedingly scary and confounding problem with on-line banking account
I did see that; was worried that this would clear all my saved passwords and such. Christine On Aug 14, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > Anohter thing you could try, is the Reset safari option, which is found in > the safari menu. In there, you can do things like clear history and other > things. Try that, and then try going to your bank's site again. > On 2012-08-14, at 10:00 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> I looked in Safari preferences, and under the Privacy tab, there is >> references to which cookies to allow, but I did not see any option for >> clearing them. I also cannot locate a general "empty cache" Looked in >> Security as well. . >> On Aug 14, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter >> wrote: >> >>> The one good answer I can give you is that Cookies and clearing them is >>> found in Presences. >>> >>> >>> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter >>> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>> • My home page: >>> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Exceedingly scary and confounding problem with on-line banking account
I did go into reset Safari, kept checked anything and everything I thought might help -- I did not see reference to emptying caches, cookies, or anything resembling that. I reset top web sites; reset history; unchecked saved names and passwords; I think I left only two or three things unchecked. Still, when I go into my bank's web site, it dumps me as soon as I get to the log-in page, or right after logging in. It is literally the only web site where I have experienced this; I cannot replicate it anywhere else where I must log in. Clearly is something about my computer, though, not the bank, not Safari, not VoiceOver. Christine P.S. My husband has not upgraded to ML, so that is the one and only difference I can think of. On Aug 14, 2012, at 10:14 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Christine, > > I'm not at my computer, so I can't check this first, but try going to > the menu bar (VO-M or Control-F2), right arrow to the Safari menu, > then arrow down to a "Reset Safari" menu option. I think one of the > submenu options you can check is to clear or empty the cache when you > perform the reset. Only check the options you want to take effect > with your reset. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Aug 14, 4:00 pm, Christine Grassman > wrote: >> I looked in Safari preferences, and under the Privacy tab, there is >> references to which cookies to allow, but I did not see any option for >> clearing them. I also cannot locate a general "empty cache" Looked in >> Security as well. . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Exceedingly scary and confounding problem with on-line banking account
I have a feeling that is what is wrong. I just used Spotlight to bring up Java preferences and agreed to install the new certificate. Hopefully, once it does its thing, I will not have any issues doing whatever else is required, and can try the banking site again. If anyone has run into this, or knows someone who has, let me know. Thanks so much, everyone. Christine On Aug 15, 2012, at 12:56 AM, Esther wrote: > > Hi Christine, > > I read your original post again, and noted the mention of Java, which > is used by some banking sites. Java is not installed by default under > Mountain Lion, and depending on whether you upgraded or performed a > clean install of ML you may have a version of Java that is not > compatible or needs to have a certificate deleted. I'm not clear on > the details, because there are accessibility issues with running the > Java preferences application, so I can't easily check by looking at my > own setup. (We had to delete an old certificate for a Blackboard user > on another list, and use mouse keys to move to change the tabs). > > One Apple discussion web site reported this recent exchange: > Installed mountain lion but the web application I use for internet > banking requires java and there does not seem to be an update for java > in OSX ML > Reply: > Type "java" into spotlight. Make sure the check boxes are selected in > the java preferences. > > The original poster stated this worked like a charm, but I have no > idea which check boxes are referred to given the accessibility issues > and the fact that I'm still running Lion. The Spotlight instruction > is the way to launch java preferences. > > HTH as a starting point. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Aug 14, 4:22 pm, Christine Grassman > wrote: >> I did go into reset Safari, kept checked anything and everything I thought >> might help -- I did not see reference to emptying caches, cookies, or >> anything resembling that. I reset top web sites; reset history; unchecked >> saved names and passwords; I think I left only two or three things >> unchecked. Still, when I go into my bank's web site, it dumps me as soon as >> I get to the log-in page, or right after logging in. It is literally the >> only web site where I have experienced this; I cannot replicate it anywhere >> else where I must log in. Clearly is something about my computer, though, >> not the bank, not Safari, not VoiceOver. >> Christine >> P.S. My husband has not upgraded to ML, so that is the one and only >> difference I can think of. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Exceedingly scary and confounding problem with on-line banking account
Went into Java preferences, and there appear to be some edit boxes which I have no clue how to handle. I've tried checking and unchecking enabling plug-ins, etc., but have the same result on the banking site. I have no idea what else to do except call Apple. I suspect I'll have to bring it in so they can look over my shoulder. Christine On Aug 15, 2012, at 12:56 AM, Esther wrote: > > Hi Christine, > > I read your original post again, and noted the mention of Java, which > is used by some banking sites. Java is not installed by default under > Mountain Lion, and depending on whether you upgraded or performed a > clean install of ML you may have a version of Java that is not > compatible or needs to have a certificate deleted. I'm not clear on > the details, because there are accessibility issues with running the > Java preferences application, so I can't easily check by looking at my > own setup. (We had to delete an old certificate for a Blackboard user > on another list, and use mouse keys to move to change the tabs). > > One Apple discussion web site reported this recent exchange: > Installed mountain lion but the web application I use for internet > banking requires java and there does not seem to be an update for java > in OSX ML > Reply: > Type "java" into spotlight. Make sure the check boxes are selected in > the java preferences. > > The original poster stated this worked like a charm, but I have no > idea which check boxes are referred to given the accessibility issues > and the fact that I'm still running Lion. The Spotlight instruction > is the way to launch java preferences. > > HTH as a starting point. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Aug 14, 4:22 pm, Christine Grassman > wrote: >> I did go into reset Safari, kept checked anything and everything I thought >> might help -- I did not see reference to emptying caches, cookies, or >> anything resembling that. I reset top web sites; reset history; unchecked >> saved names and passwords; I think I left only two or three things >> unchecked. Still, when I go into my bank's web site, it dumps me as soon as >> I get to the log-in page, or right after logging in. It is literally the >> only web site where I have experienced this; I cannot replicate it anywhere >> else where I must log in. Clearly is something about my computer, though, >> not the bank, not Safari, not VoiceOver. >> Christine >> P.S. My husband has not upgraded to ML, so that is the one and only >> difference I can think of. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Exceedingly scary and confounding problem with on-line banking account
Thanks, Esther. Nothing seems to be working -- it is so odd; I have absolutely never experienced anything remotely like this before. Christine On Aug 15, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Christine, > > I think that you have to log out and log back in again after making > your changes to Java Preferences in order for the changes to take > effect. I assume you mean that you checked the check box for "Enable > applet plug-in and Web Start applications" on the General tab of Java > preferences. If accepting the new certificate, checking that box, and > then exiting Java preferences and logging out and back in again don't > fix things for you then you may have to call Apple. I'll point you to > the instructions for using Mouse Keys to move to the tabs of the Java > Preferemces menu from the mac-access list discussions. I understand > that the entry under System Preferences in ML is now "Accessibility" > and not "Unversal Access", but this should make sense: > • Re: Mouse keys > http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access%40mac-access.net/msg11321.html > That post also gives a link to an earlier post,"Moving your cursor > with > Mouse Keys as an accessibility work around for Java Preferences", with > more detailed instructions. Basically, there are 4 tabs under Java > Preferences: "General", "Security", "Network", and "Advanced". Each > tab takes about 70 horizontal mouse key presses to move across. The > detailed post goes through everything in detail from scratch, but it > does assume you have previously set your verbosity in VoiceOver > Utility to announce what is under the mouse with 0 seconds delay so > VoiceOver can tell you what is under the mouse when you move to these > tabs with mouse keys. You can also move with your TrackPad without > using Mouse Keys if you only have to change tabs once, but if you end > up having to check multiple tabs and go back and forth between tabs in > a single session, it's simply easier to use Mouse Keys because you can > navigate precisely where you need to go. > > This has been written up as detailed bug reports to Apple. I think > you only need to log out and log in after you make your changes, but > if you need to look at other entries under Java preferences you can > use the instructions from the mac-access list posts to navigate. I'm > not sure how you can uncheck items within tables on some of the tabs > if you need to, though -- VO announces "empty table" in these cases. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Aug 15, 10:09 am, Christine Grassman > wrote: >> Went into Java preferences, and there appear to be some edit boxes which I >> have no clue how to handle. I've tried checking and unchecking enabling >> plug-ins, etc., but have the same result on the banking site. I have no idea >> what else to do except call Apple. I suspect I'll have to bring it in so >> they can look over my shoulder. >> Christine >> On Aug 15, 2012, at 12:56 AM, Esther wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi Christine, >> >>> I read your original post again, and noted the mention of Java, which >>> is used by some banking sites. Java is not installed by default under >>> Mountain Lion, and depending on whether you upgraded or performed a >>> clean install of ML you may have a version of Java that is not >>> compatible or needs to have a certificate deleted. I'm not clear on >>> the details, because there are accessibility issues with running the >>> Java preferences application, so I can't easily check by looking at my >>> own setup. (We had to delete an old certificate for a Blackboard user >>> on another list, and use mouse keys to move to change the tabs). >> >>> One Apple discussion web site reported this recent exchange: >>> Installed mountain lion but the web application I use for internet >>> banking requires java and there does not seem to be an update for java >>> in OSX ML >>> Reply: >>> Type "java" into spotlight. Make sure the check boxes are selected in >>> the java preferences. >> >>> The original poster stated this worked like a charm, but I have no >>> idea which check boxes are referred to given the accessibility issues >>> and the fact that I'm still running Lion. The Spotlight instruction >>> is the way to launch java preferences. >> >>> HTH as a starting point. Cheers, >> >>> Esther >> >>> On Aug 14, 4:22 pm, Christine Grassman >>> wrote: >
Re: Exceedingly scary and confounding problem with on-line banking account
But of course. :) Still haven't found how to empty the darned cache or clear cookies, though. Nowhere cn I locate this. Christine On Aug 15, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > Christine, I'm probably being insulting, and I don't mean to, but have you > tried hitting "refresh," command R, in here somewhere? Refreshing a page may > not be a wise thing to do when sending a form, but it may clear away any > auto-fill or other hold-overs from cache. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Exceedingly scary and confounding problem with on-line banking account
Ricardo, thank you for telling me how to empty caches. There was no way to tell whether it did so -- it said "empty caches" when I hit command option E, but that was it: no choices, check boxes, etc. Is this what is supposed to occur? Also, I did try resetting Safari the other night when I initially reported the issues with the banking site. However, I still cannot locate anything resembling cookies in the Safari security tab. Christine On Aug 15, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > First thing, open Safari and press command comma to open preferences. in the > toolbar, select the advanced tab, and check Show Develop menu in menu bar. > Now, to empty the cash, press command option E. > > To clear cookies. Go back into Safari preferences and choose security from > the toolbar. You will find the option in there. > > You will also want to take a look in the Safari menu and select reset Safari. > There is a bunch of options in here too. > > hth. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Aug 15, 2012, at 9:31 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> But of course. :) Still haven't found how to empty the darned cache or clear >> cookies, though. Nowhere cn I locate this. >> Christine >> On Aug 15, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter >> wrote: >> >>> Christine, I'm probably being insulting, and I don't mean to, but have you >>> tried hitting "refresh," command R, in here somewhere? Refreshing a page >>> may not be a wise thing to do when sending a form, but it may clear away >>> any auto-fill or other hold-overs from cache. >>> >>> >>> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter >>> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>> • My home page: >>> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Exceedingly scary and confounding problem with on-line banking account
I officially surrender -- after updating the Java certificate, emptying caches, clearing cookies, resetting Safari, and clearing all WEb site data, my banking site will not allow me to stay on and do anything after successfully logging in, and sometimes will not even allow me to do that. Seems I need to get Apple in on this one. *Sigh*. Christine On Aug 16, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Yup. > > Thats all you should here after pressing command option E. About cookies, > that is my fault. I gave you some bad information. In safari preferences, > go to privacy, not security. There you will find the option to delete > cookies. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Aug 16, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> Ricardo, thank you for telling me how to empty caches. There was no way to >> tell whether it did so -- it said "empty caches" when I hit command option >> E, but that was it: no choices, check boxes, etc. Is this what is supposed >> to occur? >> Also, I did try resetting Safari the other night when I initially reported >> the issues with the banking site. However, I still cannot locate anything >> resembling cookies in the Safari security tab. >> Christine >> On Aug 15, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> First thing, open Safari and press command comma to open preferences. in >>> the toolbar, select the advanced tab, and check Show Develop menu in menu >>> bar. Now, to empty the cash, press command option E. >>> >>> To clear cookies. Go back into Safari preferences and choose security from >>> the toolbar. You will find the option in there. >>> >>> You will also want to take a look in the Safari menu and select reset >>> Safari. There is a bunch of options in here too. >>> >>> hth. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Aug 15, 2012, at 9:31 PM, Christine Grassman >>> wrote: >>> >>>> But of course. :) Still haven't found how to empty the darned cache or >>>> clear cookies, though. Nowhere cn I locate this. >>>> Christine >>>> On Aug 15, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Christine, I'm probably being insulting, and I don't mean to, but have >>>>> you tried hitting "refresh," command R, in here somewhere? Refreshing a >>>>> page may not be a wise thing to do when sending a form, but it may clear >>>>> away any auto-fill or other hold-overs from cache. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter >>>>> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>>> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>>> • My home page: >>>>> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >&g
Re: Bookshare, Unarchiver, after ML
Have you tried seeking the .xml file and opening it in Safari? That's how I read it on the Mac. Haven't touched my Victor Stream since the Mac, and my iPHone with Read2go. I would suspect the transfer to the data card works the same way, though. On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Mary Scott wrote: > I just tried opening a Bookshare book with the Unarchiver. This is the first > I have tried after installin ML. I use The Bicter Reader Stream. Any ideas > what to do? Mel > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bookshare, Unarchiver, after ML
There are a number of ways I have done this: 1. Typically, the titles are partial titles with the extensions, and the slightest differentiation in spelling will not find them for you, so you could use spotlight, finder, etc., to search for files with the extension .xml -- typically, the most recent one will show first. 2. Go into whatever folder you have the book in, and look for it. If the .xml file isn't there, open the folder with the book's title, and arrow down until you find the .xml file. Hitting enter should open Safari and place you at the top with the Bookshare notice. 3. Of course, if you know the truncated title, write that with the .xml extension in spotlight, and it should come up. I am sure there are more tech-savvy ways to do this, but these are what work for me. I've noticed that over the past year or so, newly uploaded books which I download from Bookshare have an XML file available, and I don't have to run unarchiver or put in my password. With some older books, I still have to. I never know which will be the case until I've downloaded a book and attempted to open it. Christine On Aug 20, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Mary Scott wrote: > How exactly do I get to the xml files and does this work with Daisy? Do I > just ipen the zip file with Safari? Mel > On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:28 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> Have you tried seeking the .xml file and opening it in Safari? That's how I >> read it on the Mac. Haven't touched my Victor Stream since the Mac, and my >> iPHone with Read2go. I would suspect the transfer to the data card works the >> same way, though. >> On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Mary Scott wrote: >> >>> I just tried opening a Bookshare book with the Unarchiver. This is the >>> first I have tried after installin ML. I use The Bicter Reader Stream. >>> Any ideas what to do? Mel >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bookshare, Unarchiver, after ML
I would imagine you should be able to copy and paste the necessary files onto a data card the same way as with a PC, but haven't done it with my Mac. On Aug 20, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Mary Scott wrote: > Thanks, I'll try this right away. I am still hoping to get it on my Stream > because I love it so. > On Aug 20, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> There are a number of ways I have done this: >> 1. Typically, the titles are partial titles with the extensions, and the >> slightest differentiation in spelling will not find them for you, so you >> could use spotlight, finder, etc., to search for files with the extension >> .xml -- typically, the most recent one will show first. >> 2. Go into whatever folder you have the book in, and look for it. If the >> .xml file isn't there, open the folder with the book's title, and arrow down >> until you find the .xml file. Hitting enter should open Safari and place you >> at the top with the Bookshare notice. >> 3. Of course, if you know the truncated title, write that with the .xml >> extension in spotlight, and it should come up. >> I am sure there are more tech-savvy ways to do this, but these are what work >> for me. >> I've noticed that over the past year or so, newly uploaded books which I >> download from Bookshare have an XML file available, and I don't have to run >> unarchiver or put in my password. With some older books, I still have to. I >> never know which will be the case until I've downloaded a book and attempted >> to open it. >> Christine >> On Aug 20, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Mary Scott wrote: >> >>> How exactly do I get to the xml files and does this work with Daisy? Do I >>> just ipen the zip file with Safari? Mel >>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:28 PM, Christine Grassman >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Have you tried seeking the .xml file and opening it in Safari? That's how >>>> I read it on the Mac. Haven't touched my Victor Stream since the Mac, and >>>> my iPHone with Read2go. I would suspect the transfer to the data card >>>> works the same way, though. >>>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Mary Scott wrote: >>>> >>>>> I just tried opening a Bookshare book with the Unarchiver. This is the >>>>> first I have tried after installin ML. I use The Bicter Reader Stream. >>>>> Any ideas what to do? Mel >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bookshare, Unarchiver, after ML
The Stream's battery lasts longer, but I like having fewer gadgets to carry around with me. The Read2Go app also costs about twenty dollars, but if you read a lot, it is so worth it. I also read a newspaper or two each day with my iPhone from booksahre. On Aug 20, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Mary Scott wrote: > I have been thinking of a new Stream but you are saying that read your books > from your iPhone. I read a huge amount in cars on trips, in bed at night > etc. I love having my little Stream but if the phone can handle it, maybe > i'll do that when I get my phone. I am waiting for the newest phone to come > out. What do people think? Mel > On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:28 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> Have you tried seeking the .xml file and opening it in Safari? That's how I >> read it on the Mac. Haven't touched my Victor Stream since the Mac, and my >> iPHone with Read2go. I would suspect the transfer to the data card works the >> same way, though. >> On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Mary Scott wrote: >> >>> I just tried opening a Bookshare book with the Unarchiver. This is the >>> first I have tried after installin ML. I use The Bicter Reader Stream. >>> Any ideas what to do? Mel >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is Facebook Now Completely Broken
I'm right behind you with a few swift kicks to appropriate places, especially after reading yesterday that their "first priority" is their users. I would send the link, but I do not want to be responsible for breeding more violence. :) Christine On Aug 22, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Ok, there is no way this can just be happening to me. If I go to > Facebook through Safari, Menu Tab, or Facebook Mobile through Safari > on my desktop using Mountain Lion, as soon as I go to What's On Your > Mind, the text field where I have been posting my comments for years, > VO says, What's On Your Mind Combo Box. It says that through anything > I am trying to access FB with. I try to type and nothing, I interact > with the combo and nothing. There is no way to update your status. I > have restarted my computer thinking maybe it was an error, but am > still getting this combo box thing. Any suggestions, as I find it hard > to believe it is just me. I have not played around with any settings, > it just started happening this morning. > > On Aug 22, 12:45 pm, Brian Fischler wrote: >> I have had it with Facebook, and if I didn't need it for work would >> get rid of it. I went to update a status this morning, and went to the >> website, was so happy as everything in Mountain Lion had been working >> great, as I had set the sweet spot to go straight to update status >> field, and then today, I go there and there is now a combo box that is >> in the update status text field. I VO shift Down in to the Combo Box >> tried typing and nothing, tried moving around and nothing. I said ok >> let me go to Menu Tab and just update my status there, and guess what >> same thing, the update status text field now has a combo box there. >> Has anyone else had this happen today? If so, any work around? The >> people who run the mobile site on their desktop are you having the >> same problem? I am a non-violent person, but if I ever meet anyone who >> works for Facebook, I am going to punch them in the face. They could >> be the worst company out there along with ESPN who have made no effort >> to make their site better compatabile with screen readers. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is Facebook Now Completely Broken
LOL. Good luck with that. I've never gotten a response using their on-line contacts, which is a nightmare to even find. On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Hank Smith wrote: > is there any telephone number to facebook corpret where we can complain to?On > 8/22/2012 12:07 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: >> I'm right behind you with a few swift kicks to appropriate places, >> especially after reading yesterday that their "first priority" is their >> users. I would send the link, but I do not want to be responsible for >> breeding more violence. :) >> Christine >> On Aug 22, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >>> Ok, there is no way this can just be happening to me. If I go to >>> Facebook through Safari, Menu Tab, or Facebook Mobile through Safari >>> on my desktop using Mountain Lion, as soon as I go to What's On Your >>> Mind, the text field where I have been posting my comments for years, >>> VO says, What's On Your Mind Combo Box. It says that through anything >>> I am trying to access FB with. I try to type and nothing, I interact >>> with the combo and nothing. There is no way to update your status. I >>> have restarted my computer thinking maybe it was an error, but am >>> still getting this combo box thing. Any suggestions, as I find it hard >>> to believe it is just me. I have not played around with any settings, >>> it just started happening this morning. >>> >>> On Aug 22, 12:45 pm, Brian Fischler wrote: >>>> I have had it with Facebook, and if I didn't need it for work would >>>> get rid of it. I went to update a status this morning, and went to the >>>> website, was so happy as everything in Mountain Lion had been working >>>> great, as I had set the sweet spot to go straight to update status >>>> field, and then today, I go there and there is now a combo box that is >>>> in the update status text field. I VO shift Down in to the Combo Box >>>> tried typing and nothing, tried moving around and nothing. I said ok >>>> let me go to Menu Tab and just update my status there, and guess what >>>> same thing, the update status text field now has a combo box there. >>>> Has anyone else had this happen today? If so, any work around? The >>>> people who run the mobile site on their desktop are you having the >>>> same problem? I am a non-violent person, but if I ever meet anyone who >>>> works for Facebook, I am going to punch them in the face. They could >>>> be the worst company out there along with ESPN who have made no effort >>>> to make their site better compatabile with screen readers. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > > > -- > websites: > http://www.xpango.com/?ref=92757322 > http://prelaunchx.com/x/hanksmith5 > http://www.virtapay.com/r/hanksmith5 > http://www.reality-networkers.com/index.php?refid=3950951 > personal email: > hanksm...@hanksmith.net > twitter: > @hanksmith2011 > facebook: > http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 > zello: > hanksmith5 > Klango: > hanksmith > Skype: > hank.smith966 > Amateur radio call sign: > ke7ief > check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A > also you can find my youtube channel at: > http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is Facebook Now Completely Broken
I use the mobile site, and I am not having this issue. Facebook stinks regardless, and gets worse with each iteration IMHO. Christine On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:42 PM, "Christopher-Mark gilland" wrote: > Even on the mobile site, you have this issue? > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" > To: "MacVisionaries" > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:36 PM > Subject: Re: Is Facebook Now Completely Broken > > > Ok, there is no way this can just be happening to me. If I go to > Facebook through Safari, Menu Tab, or Facebook Mobile through Safari > on my desktop using Mountain Lion, as soon as I go to What's On Your > Mind, the text field where I have been posting my comments for years, > VO says, What's On Your Mind Combo Box. It says that through anything > I am trying to access FB with. I try to type and nothing, I interact > with the combo and nothing. There is no way to update your status. I > have restarted my computer thinking maybe it was an error, but am > still getting this combo box thing. Any suggestions, as I find it hard > to believe it is just me. I have not played around with any settings, > it just started happening this morning. > > On Aug 22, 12:45 pm, Brian Fischler wrote: >> I have had it with Facebook, and if I didn't need it for work would >> get rid of it. I went to update a status this morning, and went to the >> website, was so happy as everything in Mountain Lion had been working >> great, as I had set the sweet spot to go straight to update status >> field, and then today, I go there and there is now a combo box that is >> in the update status text field. I VO shift Down in to the Combo Box >> tried typing and nothing, tried moving around and nothing. I said ok >> let me go to Menu Tab and just update my status there, and guess what >> same thing, the update status text field now has a combo box there. >> Has anyone else had this happen today? If so, any work around? The >> people who run the mobile site on their desktop are you having the >> same problem? I am a non-violent person, but if I ever meet anyone who >> works for Facebook, I am going to punch them in the face. They could >> be the worst company out there along with ESPN who have made no effort >> to make their site better compatabile with screen readers. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is Facebook Now Completely Broken
I find FB really useful for keeping in touch with family and friends across the country, but I am seriously considering at least truncating my friends' list. It just isn't worth the hassle and the constant checking of privacy settings in order to determine if any new changes have done anything undesirable. Christine On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:53 PM, "Missy Hoppe" wrote: > I was never a huge facebook fan to begin with. The mobile site is/was useable > enough; I managed to delete my account from > there, but I always found the main site to be entirely too cluttered. The > more I hear about facebook's growing > inaccessibility, the happier I am that I deleted my account. I had nothing > but problems from day one, and if I ever do try to > use facebook again, I'm going to have sighted assistance so that I know my > privacy options are set the way I want them. I'll > be monitoring this thread with interest, but as I said, the more I hear, the > happier I am with my decision to eliminate > facebook from my life. Twitter is all the social networking Ineed. Just my > $0.2 worth. > Missy > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 3:48 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Is Facebook Now Completely Broken > > I use the mobile site, and I am not having this issue. Facebook stinks > regardless, and gets worse with each iteration IMHO. > Christine > On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:42 PM, "Christopher-Mark gilland" > wrote: > >> Even on the mobile site, you have this issue? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" >> >> To: "MacVisionaries" >> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:36 PM >> Subject: Re: Is Facebook Now Completely Broken >> >> >> Ok, there is no way this can just be happening to me. If I go to >> Facebook through Safari, Menu Tab, or Facebook Mobile through Safari >> on my desktop using Mountain Lion, as soon as I go to What's On Your >> Mind, the text field where I have been posting my comments for years, >> VO says, What's On Your Mind Combo Box. It says that through anything >> I am trying to access FB with. I try to type and nothing, I interact >> with the combo and nothing. There is no way to update your status. I >> have restarted my computer thinking maybe it was an error, but am >> still getting this combo box thing. Any suggestions, as I find it hard >> to believe it is just me. I have not played around with any settings, >> it just started happening this morning. >> >> On Aug 22, 12:45 pm, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> I have had it with Facebook, and if I didn't need it for work would >>> get rid of it. I went to update a status this morning, and went to >>> the website, was so happy as everything in Mountain Lion had been >>> working great, as I had set the sweet spot to go straight to update >>> status field, and then today, I go there and there is now a combo box >>> that is in the update status text field. I VO shift Down in to the >>> Combo Box tried typing and nothing, tried moving around and nothing. >>> I said ok let me go to Menu Tab and just update my status there, and >>> guess what same thing, the update status text field now has a combo box >>> there. >>> Has anyone else had this happen today? If so, any work around? The >>> people who run the mobile site on their desktop are you having the >>> same problem? I am a non-violent person, but if I ever meet anyone >>> who works for Facebook, I am going to punch them in the face. They >>> could be the worst company out there along with ESPN who have made no >>> effort to make their site better compatabile with screen readers. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. &g
Netflicks issue: changing order in queue
Good day/night all. I am hoping someone can assist with a frustrating Netflicks issue. It used to be a siple matter of hitting delete and inputting the number where you want to place the movie. However, although hitting "queue move" will take whatever movie I am vocusing on to number one in the queue, whenever I interact with the movie number edit box, I get tossed out of Netflicks, or nothing at all happens. Is there I am doing wrong, or if not, is there a workaround to rearrange my queue without having to remove something and then add it again? Thanks in advance. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Cross-post: Trying to get iPhone pics to act/print as jpegs
My understand is that the iPhone saves pictures taken on it as jpegs, but when I attach and send them, they're arriving as .dat files. Changing the extension is not helping. It is suspected that something is happening during their trip through e-mail servers. (Both sides in this instance use g-mail.) Does anyone have a solution for this? This is a time-sensitive project. Thanks so much in advance. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Cross-post: Trying to get iPhone pics to act/print as jpegs
No. No changes at all. On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:20 PM, Rachel Magario wrote: > Are you resizing or choosing some of the options before sending it? > RM > > On Dec 7, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: > >> My understand is that the iPhone saves pictures taken on it as jpegs, but >> when I attach and send them, they're arriving as .dat files. Changing the >> extension is not helping. It is suspected that something is happening during >> their trip through e-mail servers. (Both sides in this instance use g-mail.) >> Does anyone have a solution for this? This is a time-sensitive project. >> Thanks so much in advance. >> Christine >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Cross-post: Trying to get iPhone pics to act/print as jpegs
Pics originally sent from another's iPhone to me via e-mail as attachments; I then downloaded to my Mac, then sent them as attachments using my Mac to someone with a Windows coputer. On Dec 7, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > are you sending the pics from your iPhone or Mac? > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > >> No. No changes at all. >> On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:20 PM, Rachel Magario wrote: >> >>> Are you resizing or choosing some of the options before sending it? >>> RM >>> >>> On Dec 7, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: >>> >>>> My understand is that the iPhone saves pictures taken on it as jpegs, but >>>> when I attach and send them, they're arriving as .dat files. Changing the >>>> extension is not helping. It is suspected that something is happening >>>> during their trip through e-mail servers. (Both sides in this instance use >>>> g-mail.) Does anyone have a solution for this? This is a time-sensitive >>>> project. Thanks so much in advance. >>>> Christine >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Where in Hades did my notifications go on Facebook?
I checked on both m.facebook.com and the main site, but cannot figure out how to get to my notifications. I used to receive all of them via e-mail, but this has mysteriously stopped, though I still receive e-mails if a friend likes one of my links or sends me a message. I swear, I'm seriously considering ditching FB for good. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Combo box driving me crazy
All right, all, here's another (probably Safari) problem. I'm trying to purchase a Harry and David gift card: http://www.harryanddavid.com There is a combo box where you must select (or potentially write in, I guess) the desired value of the card. However, I've tried interacting, hitting VO space, hitting enter, Vo enter, Vo shift space, and so on, but all I'm sometimes getting is "text select gift card price" -- with no list of choices and no edit box. I've tried writing in a value at the combo box announcement and the "text select gift card price" but nothing happens. Any suggestions, other than sighted assistance? :) Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Combo box driving me crazy
Thanks. I have used their site in the past easily with Windows. A pity. :) On Dec 11, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Christine! > Well I took a look at the site as well! > Although I'm in the UK I also got exactly the same results as you! > Now I do not know if this is a vo or safari or even the sites problem if a > windows user can use the site OK then it might indeed be a vo problem! > I can only suggest [if you have not already] send a Email to there customer > services and see what they might say! > Anyway you have a great day! > Colin > > On 11 Dec 2011, at 16:29, Christine Grassman wrote: > >> All right, all, here's another (probably Safari) problem. I'm trying to >> purchase a Harry and David gift card: >> http://www.harryanddavid.com >> There is a combo box where you must select (or potentially write in, I >> guess) the desired value of the card. However, I've tried interacting, >> hitting VO space, hitting enter, Vo enter, Vo shift space, and so on, but >> all I'm sometimes getting is "text select gift card price" -- with no list >> of choices and no edit box. I've tried writing in a value at the combo box >> announcement and the "text select gift card price" but nothing happens. Any >> suggestions, other than sighted assistance? :) >> Christine >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Combo box driving me crazy
I did have no trouble checking out when I switched to their mobile site; next time, I'll start out on it and see if that makes a difference. Christine On Dec 11, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > It's not a voiceover problem. the main cause for some of these combo boxes is > poor coding and implementation. there's scenarios where voiceover cannot grab > a combo box because the object in question is not in a standard format, > instead it may be part of a tailor made design package or something > unsupported by voiceover. > > there are plenty of instances I've come across where voiceover can't support > interaction with certain web components. > > lew > > On 11 Dec 2011, at 16:50, Red.Falcon wrote: > >> Hi Christine! >> Well I took a look at the site as well! >> Although I'm in the UK I also got exactly the same results as you! >> Now I do not know if this is a vo or safari or even the sites problem if a >> windows user can use the site OK then it might indeed be a vo problem! >> I can only suggest [if you have not already] send a Email to there customer >> services and see what they might say! >> Anyway you have a great day! >> Colin >> >> On 11 Dec 2011, at 16:29, Christine Grassman wrote: >> >>> All right, all, here's another (probably Safari) problem. I'm trying to >>> purchase a Harry and David gift card: >>> http://www.harryanddavid.com >>> There is a combo box where you must select (or potentially write in, I >>> guess) the desired value of the card. However, I've tried interacting, >>> hitting VO space, hitting enter, Vo enter, Vo shift space, and so on, but >>> all I'm sometimes getting is "text select gift card price" -- with no list >>> of choices and no edit box. I've tried writing in a value at the combo box >>> announcement and the "text select gift card price" but nothing happens. Any >>> suggestions, other than sighted assistance? :) >>> Christine >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help > anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Combo box driving me crazy
I did try that, but it didn't take. I also attempted to act as it I was dealing with a pop-up, but that didn't work either. I would never, ever go back to Windows, but I have to say that I have more trouble with Web sites more often now than I ever did with Windows. Flash, particularly, is the bane of my cyber existence. :) Christine On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Usually combo boxes, at least the standard ones that are called combo boxes > on windows are pop up menus on the mac. I wonder if the control you are > dealing with here is similar to the one on the android market. When you first > move to it, it's an edit box, however when you start typing, it changes to a > combo box and attempts to show results as you type, really this is an attempt > to make something more fancy than it needs to be, a standard edit box would > have been just fine, thank you very much. Anyway, this kind of control can be > a bit difficult to read. You may just need to type what you need to in to the > control and move on from there. > On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: > >> All right, all, here's another (probably Safari) problem. I'm trying to >> purchase a Harry and David gift card: >> http://www.harryanddavid.com >> There is a combo box where you must select (or potentially write in, I >> guess) the desired value of the card. However, I've tried interacting, >> hitting VO space, hitting enter, Vo enter, Vo shift space, and so on, but >> all I'm sometimes getting is "text select gift card price" -- with no list >> of choices and no edit box. I've tried writing in a value at the combo box >> announcement and the "text select gift card price" but nothing happens. Any >> suggestions, other than sighted assistance? :) >> Christine >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Sharing files with another user on my Mac
Good morning/afternoon/evening, and happy holidays to those celebrating. I am having trouble figuring out how to allow my son access to some of my iTunes files from his user account which I set up on my Mac for him; I set up his iPod Touch and connected to iTunes via his account on my Mac. But I would like him to be able to use Spotlight to search for particular files on my user account, then copy them into a playlist for himself. on his iTunes account. Is this possible? I tried figuring out how to set up a group, thinking that if he and I were in a group in preferences, we could do all of the same things. Though I trust my son, I do not want him to be able to act as an administrator, or access my e-mail, or change my files. Is there a way for him to access only my iTunes library from his account and import into his? I've set up iCloud for him but have not explored how to use it; I haven't bothered to work with it for my own purposes. Ideally, once I've got that figured out, he will be able to work with his media on his PC, my computer, his father's, sister's, or stepfather's computers at will. While we are assisting him learning how to use his iPod Touch, however, he will use my computer. Could someone get me started in facilitating this process, please? Thanks so much. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Not a Happy Camper: Where Are My Facebook Privacy Settings?
Hello all. I am using a Macbook with Snow Leopard. I am trying to check my privacy settings on Facebook -- a friend informed me that when I last sent her a message on FB, my cell phone informaiton came along with the message, which I only use to sign in, but do not have listed in my profile -- or so I bleieved. I cannot seem to get into account settings anywhere. I've tried clicking on virtually everyting on both the main site and m.facebook.com. Can't get there. Help, please, asap. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Not a Happy Camper: Where Are My Facebook Privacy Settings?
I'll have to try to access the settings on my iPhone, but if I recall, this, too, has become an accessibility nightmare. Anyone know a way that I can get to my privacy settings easily on the Mac or the iPhone? I have the Facebook app -- gave up n Facely hd some time ago, though I've still got it around. On Dec 28, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > that is a good thing to know. I am going to hate going to a windows machine > just to make sure my privacy is setup properly. as it is, FB is under > litigation because they continue to track people, even after they have logged > off (or in one case, even after the account was deleted). so, it is not > surprising that FB is having some "issues". > > -eric > > On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Unfortunately, Facebook seems to be incredibly broken on the mac, no links >> will work at all. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman >> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:21 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Not a Happy Camper: Where Are My Facebook Privacy Settings? >> >> Hello all. I am using a Macbook with Snow Leopard. I am trying to check my >> privacy settings on Facebook -- a friend informed me that when I last sent >> her a message on FB, my cell phone informaiton came along with the message, >> which I only use to sign in, but do not have listed in my profile -- or so I >> bleieved. I cannot seem to get into account settings anywhere. I've tried >> clicking on virtually everyting on both the main site and m.facebook.com. >> Can't get there. Help, please, asap. >> Christine >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Not a Happy Camper: Where Are My Facebook Privacy Settings?
Thanks, Colin -- unfortunately, this is not working. Underneath the unlabeled button, both before and after I click on it, is my name, and if I continue to right arrow, the same information appears as before: favorites, then a button, find friends, then a button, and so on. I used both search and the item chooser to try to find account settings or logout; nothing doing. Also tried the web item rotor. Quite frustrating. Christine On Dec 28, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > is at the top under a home link a unlabelled button! > Click on this and wait a second and if you arrow right from there you should > get your account settings! > And therefore go and change what you need -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: kindle keyboard
I, too, am curious about this. It was my belief that only Kindle PC was touted as accessible, but was not actually so, and nothing was remotely comparable to the sighted use of the Kindle. Thanks. Christine On Jan 5, 2012, at 2:47 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: > Hi Ricardo and others, > > I didn't get the whole information in your last thread. Did I get it right > that the "kindle keyboard" is accessible for us blind users? It's a hardware > or is it just a software? I found a book reader machine at Amazon but nothing > in the Mac App Store. > > Once I tried the Kindl App but it was not accessible. > > So, what do you mean exactly by "kindle keyboard" And how accessible is it? > What voice did they build in? > > Thanks and > all the best > Jürgen > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: kindle keyboard
so, if I understand you correctly, if I purchase a Kindle with the accessibility plug-in, using the keyboard to read is accessible: I can start, stop, pause, etc., without sighted assistance? However, if I am interrupted unexpectedly, or if I lose the place where I was reading, there is no way for me to find the place where I left off without sighted assistance, except by having the device read all the wy through to that spot? No ability to even go page by page or chapter by chapter independently to speed such a thing up? I appreciate any clarification. I am constantly frustrated by not being able to buy an e-book available in the Kindle store because of the great selection, but I have to figure out if the accessibility headache is worth the money and whether, in fact, I want to support a device which could so easily be accessible but is deliberately not blind-friendly for spurious reasons. Christine On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > Kindle for pc with accessibility plug in and kindle keyboard both have some > accessibility. If you are happy with being able to read books that have text > to speech enabled, but don't care about reviewing line by line, spelling > words or names, taking notes and knowing the context once you go back and > look at the notes, and you are ok with shopping in the store on your pc or > mac, not on the device itself, then Kindle keyboard will have some utility > for you. Kindle for pc has the advantage that even books that don't have tts > enabled will still work with the accessibility plug in. You must have a > screen reader running at the same time, but the books are read by either the > Samantha or Tom voices, as they are on Kindle Keyboard. There is absolutely > no Kindle accessibility on the Mac or with VO, and the updates to the > accessibility for both the keyboard device and the pc plug in have been > nominal to nonexistent. Because Kindle store has stuff I can't find anywhere > else, I have used both the kindle for pc with plug in and the Kindle Keyboard > for straight reading of novels that can be done like you use to read a > library of congress talking book tape or record. Just don't plan on efficient > navigation or serious interaction with the text. > > Mary > > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Installing an accessible version of Chrome on the Mac?
How does one override Safari as the default browser without having to deliberately start the application manually? For example, if there is a link in e-mail, and I click on it, how can I prevent Safari from opening, and instead automatically have Chrome or OmniWeb do the honors? Thanks. Christine On Jan 11, 2012, at 4:02 AM, André Nuno Soares wrote: > Hello Michael, > > Just go to: > http://www.google.com/chrome > > If you go there from your Mac, the site will automatically present the link > for downloading the latest Mac version. > > The download is a dmg file, so you install it the usual way, by copying the > .app file inside it to your Applications folder. > > Note that Chrome includes a process to update your installed version, so > after installing it for the first time, the browser should install new > versions automatically. > > > HTH, > André > > On 11/01/2012, at 08:05, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Could someone please refer me to some documentation on how to install the >> latest version of Chrome with accessibility on my Mac? I am just a bit >> confused. Is the latest accessible version of Chrome called ChromeVox or is >> ChromeVox an extension for Chrome? >> >> Lastly, which version of Chrome should I install? I am not really into beta >> testing these days, unless I have to, so the version number for the latest >> stable, non-beta version would suffice nicely. >> >> Thanks to all, >> >> Mike >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Just Curious -- Why Is Safari Not As Problematic and "Busy" On the IPhone as On the Mac?
Subject says it all. Any accepted explanations or good or proven theories? Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
