Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to Era?
Thanks,
Donna

> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
> solved my problem:
> 
> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
> 
> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
> 
> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
> setup process.
> 
> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
> 
> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
> Vis post with the same problem here:
> 
> 
> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
> 
> 
> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi Brad:
>> 
>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
>> problem as described, unfortunately.
>> 
>> Argh!
>> 
>> Bradford Snyder writes:
>>> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see if 
>>> that helps.
>>> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
>>> screen is unreadable.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired them 
>>> to my iPhone. I also
>>> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
>>> for myself.
>>> 
>>> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
>>> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
>>> reads:
>>> 
>>> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
>>> 
>>> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
>>> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
>>> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
>>> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there is on 
>>> Android).
>>> 
>>> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
>>> welcome!
>>> 
>>> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
>>> I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
>>> sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
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>>> Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
>>> 
>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>>> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>>> 
>>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
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RE: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

[josephlhodge]

Hi Donna,

Do you mean Aira? If so then I believe they would. Its still in early beta to 
my knowledge so they have not released to many details on this.

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 9:14 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta 
Glasses on iPhone)

Hi all,

I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to Era?
Thanks,
Donna

> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how 
> I solved my problem:
> 
> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
> 
> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
> 
> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the 
> setup process.
> 
> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
> 
> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an 
> Apple Vis post with the same problem here:
> 
> 
> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-me
> ta-view-app
> 
> 
> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi Brad:
>> 
>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was 
>> the only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains 
>> a problem as described, unfortunately.
>> 
>> Argh!
>> 
>> Bradford Snyder writes:
>>> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see if 
>>> that helps.
>>> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
>>> screen is unreadable.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
>>> them to my iPhone. I also have the Meta View app installed and I've 
>>> successfully created a login for myself.
>>> 
>>> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've 
>>> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
>>> reads:
>>> 
>>> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
>>> 
>>> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen 
>>> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing 
>>> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, 
>>> there's also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out 
>>> there is on Android).
>>> 
>>> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most 
>>> welcome!
>>> 
>>> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, 
>>> but I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd 
>>> rather not sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
>>> Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
>>> 
>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>>> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>>> 
>>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
>>> 
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Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

[Kaare Dehard]

No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free through 
your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to Era?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
>> solved my problem:
>> 
>> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
>> 
>> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
>> 
>> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
>> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
>> setup process.
>> 
>> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
>> 
>> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
>> Vis post with the same problem here:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
>> 
>> 
>> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> 
>> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>> Hi Brad:
>>> 
>>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
>>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
>>> problem as described, unfortunately.
>>> 
>>> Argh!
>>> 
>>> Bradford Snyder writes:
 You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see 
 if that helps.
 I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
 screen is unreadable.
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 
> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired them 
> to my iPhone. I also
> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
> for myself.
> 
> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
> reads:
> 
> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
> 
> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there is 
> on Android).
> 
> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
> welcome!
> 
> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
> I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
> sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Janina
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
> Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
> 
> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa
> 
> Linux Foundation Fellow
> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
> 
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Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

By them do you mean Meta or Aira?  I assumed I would have to set up a Meta 
account.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:15 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
> 
> No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free through 
> your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
>> Era?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
>>> solved my problem:
>>> 
>>> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
>>> 
>>> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
>>> 
>>> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
>>> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
>>> setup process.
>>> 
>>> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
>>> 
>>> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
>>> Vis post with the same problem here:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
 Hi Brad:
 
 I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
 only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
 problem as described, unfortunately.
 
 Argh!
 
 Bradford Snyder writes:
> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see 
> if that helps.
> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
> screen is unreadable.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
>> them to my iPhone. I also
>> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
>> for myself.
>> 
>> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
>> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
>> reads:
>> 
>> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
>> 
>> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
>> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
>> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
>> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there is 
>> on Android).
>> 
>> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
>> welcome!
>> 
>> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
>> I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
>> sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Janina
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
>> Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
>> 
>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>> 
>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
>> 
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Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Joseph,

Yes, I did mean Aira.  Don’t seem to be able to type this morning. :)
Cheers,
Donna

> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:15 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> Do you mean Aira? If so then I believe they would. Its still in early beta to 
> my knowledge so they have not released to many details on this.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 9:14 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta 
> Glasses on iPhone)
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to Era?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how 
>> I solved my problem:
>> 
>> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
>> 
>> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
>> 
>> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
>> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the 
>> setup process.
>> 
>> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
>> 
>> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an 
>> Apple Vis post with the same problem here:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-me
>> ta-view-app
>> 
>> 
>> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> 
>> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>> Hi Brad:
>>> 
>>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was 
>>> the only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains 
>>> a problem as described, unfortunately.
>>> 
>>> Argh!
>>> 
>>> Bradford Snyder writes:
 You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see 
 if that helps.
 I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
 screen is unreadable.
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 
 On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
 them to my iPhone. I also have the Meta View app installed and I've 
 successfully created a login for myself.
 
 I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've 
 shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
 reads:
 
 Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
 
 Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen 
 instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing 
 further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, 
 there's also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out 
 there is on Android).
 
 So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most 
 welcome!
 
 I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, 
 but I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd 
 rather not sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Janina
 
 
 --
 
 Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
 Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
 
 The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
 Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures
 http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
 
 Linux Foundation Fellow
 https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
 
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Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

[Brad Snyder]

Facebook is not required to set up a free Aira account. While you may be able 
to use it that way via single sign-on, it is not required.
Also, at this time the Ray-Ban Meta-frame  glasses cannot be used with Aira. As 
said by an earlier poster, this program is in early beta, but I wouldn't hold 
my breath on it. I think there are too many privacy issues to be overcome, and 
Aira puts privacy first. 

- Brad -

On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:16, Kaare Dehard  wrote:

No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free through 
your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to Era?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
>> solved my problem:
>> 
>> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
>> 
>> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
>> 
>> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
>> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
>> setup process.
>> 
>> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
>> 
>> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
>> Vis post with the same problem here:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
>> 
>> 
>> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> 
>> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>> Hi Brad:
>>> 
>>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
>>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
>>> problem as described, unfortunately.
>>> 
>>> Argh!
>>> 
>>> Bradford Snyder writes:
 You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see 
 if that helps.
 I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
 screen is unreadable.
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 
> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired them 
> to my iPhone. I also
> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
> for myself.
> 
> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
> reads:
> 
> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
> 
> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there is 
> on Android).
> 
> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
> welcome!
> 
> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
> I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
> sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Janina
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
> Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
> 
> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa
> 
> Linux Foundation Fellow
> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
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Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

[Brad Snyder]

No Meta account is required.
There's a free app called Meta View that can be downloaded from the iOS App 
Store.

- Brad -

On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:28, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

By them do you mean Meta or Aira?  I assumed I would have to set up a Meta 
account.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:15 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
> 
> No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free through 
> your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
>> Era?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
>>> solved my problem:
>>> 
>>> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
>>> 
>>> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
>>> 
>>> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
>>> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
>>> setup process.
>>> 
>>> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
>>> 
>>> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
>>> Vis post with the same problem here:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
 Hi Brad:
 
 I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
 only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
 problem as described, unfortunately.
 
 Argh!
 
 Bradford Snyder writes:
> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see 
> if that helps.
> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
> screen is unreadable.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
>> them to my iPhone. I also
>> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
>> for myself.
>> 
>> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
>> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
>> reads:
>> 
>> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
>> 
>> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
>> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
>> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
>> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there is 
>> on Android).
>> 
>> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
>> welcome!
>> 
>> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
>> I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
>> sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Janina
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
>> Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
>> 
>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>> 
>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
>> 
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Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, Brad.  I hadn’t planned to use Aira anyway, but it’s good to know none 
the less.
Best,
Donna


> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:30 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Facebook is not required to set up a free Aira account. While you may be able 
> to use it that way via single sign-on, it is not required.
> Also, at this time the Ray-Ban Meta-frame  glasses cannot be used with Aira. 
> As said by an earlier poster, this program is in early beta, but I wouldn't 
> hold my breath on it. I think there are too many privacy issues to be 
> overcome, and Aira puts privacy first. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:16, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
> 
> No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free 
> through your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
>> Era?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
>>> solved my problem:
>>> 
>>> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
>>> 
>>> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
>>> 
>>> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
>>> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
>>> setup process.
>>> 
>>> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
>>> 
>>> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
>>> Vis post with the same problem here:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
 Hi Brad:
 
 I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
 only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
 problem as described, unfortunately.
 
 Argh!
 
 Bradford Snyder writes:
> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see 
> if that helps.
> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
> screen is unreadable.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
>> them to my iPhone. I also
>> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
>> for myself.
>> 
>> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
>> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
>> reads:
>> 
>> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
>> 
>> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
>> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
>> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
>> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there is 
>> on Android).
>> 
>> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
>> welcome!
>> 
>> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
>> I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
>> sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Janina
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
>> Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
>> 
>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>> 
>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
>> 
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Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Oh, weird.  That does surprise me, given that everyone in the world wants you 
to create an account with them.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> No Meta account is required.
> There's a free app called Meta View that can be downloaded from the iOS App 
> Store.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:28, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> By them do you mean Meta or Aira?  I assumed I would have to set up a Meta 
> account.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:15 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
>> 
>> No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free 
>> through your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
>>> Era?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
 solved my problem:
 
 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
 
 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
 
 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
 no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
 setup process.
 
 Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
 
 PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
 Vis post with the same problem here:
 
 
 https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
 
 
 That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
 
 Janina
 
 
 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Hi Brad:
> 
> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
> problem as described, unfortunately.
> 
> Argh!
> 
> Bradford Snyder writes:
>> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see 
>> if that helps.
>> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
>> screen is unreadable.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
>>> them to my iPhone. I also
>>> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
>>> for myself.
>>> 
>>> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
>>> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
>>> reads:
>>> 
>>> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
>>> 
>>> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
>>> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
>>> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
>>> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there 
>>> is on Android).
>>> 
>>> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
>>> welcome!
>>> 
>>> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
>>> I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
>>> sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
>>> Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
>>> 
>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>>> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>>> 
>>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
>>> 
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Can I put recorded music from a radio station, onto my Iphone 11

[meikle.aiden via MacVisionaries]

Hi all.

 

I enjoy listening to Jazz music on my radio and record individual tracks
that I like.

 

Am I able to copy these tracks of music onto my Iphone and if so how do I do
it?  Like drag and drop.

 

Best wishes.

 

Andy.

 

 

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Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

[Ryan Mann]

I was asked to sign into Meta when I was setting up my Meta Glasses. I had the 
option to use my Facebook account.

Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175


> On Sep 5, 2024, at 9:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, weird.  That does surprise me, given that everyone in the world wants 
> you to create an account with them.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> No Meta account is required.
>> There's a free app called Meta View that can be downloaded from the iOS App 
>> Store.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:28, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> By them do you mean Meta or Aira?  I assumed I would have to set up a Meta 
>> account.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
 On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:15 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free 
>>> through your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
 Era?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
> solved my problem:
> 
> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
> 
> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
> 
> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
> setup process.
> 
> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
> 
> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
> Vis post with the same problem here:
> 
> 
> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
> 
> 
> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi Brad:
>> 
>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
>> problem as described, unfortunately.
>> 
>> Argh!
>> 
>> Bradford Snyder writes:
>>> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and 
>>> see if that helps.
>>> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
>>> screen is unreadable.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
 them to my iPhone. I also
 have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
 for myself.
 
 I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
 shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
 reads:
 
 Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
 
 Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
 instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
 further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
 also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there 
 is on Android).
 
 So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
 welcome!
 
 I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
 I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
 sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Janina
 
 
 --
 
 Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
 Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
 
 The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
 Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures
 http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
 
 Linux Foundation Fellow
 https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
 
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Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

That’s more like what I would expect.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:50 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
> I was asked to sign into Meta when I was setting up my Meta Glasses. I had 
> the option to use my Facebook account.
> 
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
> rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
> 
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 9:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, weird.  That does surprise me, given that everyone in the world wants 
>> you to create an account with them.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No Meta account is required.
>>> There's a free app called Meta View that can be downloaded from the iOS App 
>>> Store.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:28, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> By them do you mean Meta or Aira?  I assumed I would have to set up a Meta 
>>> account.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:15 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
 
 No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free 
 through your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
> Era?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
>> solved my problem:
>> 
>> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
>> 
>> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
>> 
>> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
>> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
>> setup process.
>> 
>> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
>> 
>> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
>> Vis post with the same problem here:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
>> 
>> 
>> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> 
>> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>> Hi Brad:
>>> 
>>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
>>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
>>> problem as described, unfortunately.
>>> 
>>> Argh!
>>> 
>>> Bradford Snyder writes:
 You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and 
 see if that helps.
 I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
 screen is unreadable.
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 
> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
> them to my iPhone. I also
> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
> for myself.
> 
> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
> reads:
> 
> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
> 
> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there 
> is on Android).
> 
> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
> welcome!
> 
> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
> I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
> sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Janina
> 
> 
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> 
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> (WAI)
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Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

[Bradford Snyder]

Ryan is correct about that.
I started the setup, but never finished. Now I have to start all over.
Have just been using them as bluetooth headset so far.
Obviously haven’t been using them much, but know a lot of people who have.

- Brad -



On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:50, Ryan Mann  wrote:

I was asked to sign into Meta when I was setting up my Meta Glasses. I had the 
option to use my Facebook account.

Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175


> On Sep 5, 2024, at 9:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, weird.  That does surprise me, given that everyone in the world wants 
> you to create an account with them.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> No Meta account is required.
>> There's a free app called Meta View that can be downloaded from the iOS App 
>> Store.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:28, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> By them do you mean Meta or Aira?  I assumed I would have to set up a Meta 
>> account.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
 On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:15 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free 
>>> through your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
 Era?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
> solved my problem:
> 
> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
> 
> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
> 
> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
> setup process.
> 
> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
> 
> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
> Vis post with the same problem here:
> 
> 
> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
> 
> 
> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi Brad:
>> 
>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
>> problem as described, unfortunately.
>> 
>> Argh!
>> 
>> Bradford Snyder writes:
>>> You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and 
>>> see if that helps.
>>> I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
>>> screen is unreadable.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
 them to my iPhone. I also
 have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
 for myself.
 
 I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
 shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
 reads:
 
 Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
 
 Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
 instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
 further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
 also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there 
 is on Android).
 
 So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
 welcome!
 
 I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
 I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
 sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Janina
 
 
 --
 
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 Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
 
 The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
 Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures
 http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
 
 Linux Foundation Fellow
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Re: Can I put recorded music from a radio station, onto my Iphone 11

[Bradford Snyder]

You can put music files like MP3, in the Files app on your iPhone.

- Brad -



On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:50, meikle.aiden via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi all.
 
I enjoy listening to Jazz music on my radio and record individual tracks that I 
like.
 
Am I able to copy these tracks of music onto my Iphone and if so how do I do 
it?  Like drag and drop.
 
Best wishes.
 
Andy.
 
 

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Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Oh, that’s kinda cool!  It didn’t occur to me that you could do that, but it 
makes total sense.
Cheers
Donna

> On Sep 5, 2024, at 9:01 AM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Ryan is correct about that.
> I started the setup, but never finished. Now I have to start all over.
> Have just been using them as bluetooth headset so far.
> Obviously haven’t been using them much, but know a lot of people who have.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:50, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
> I was asked to sign into Meta when I was setting up my Meta Glasses. I had 
> the option to use my Facebook account.
> 
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
> rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
> 
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 9:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, weird.  That does surprise me, given that everyone in the world wants 
>> you to create an account with them.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No Meta account is required.
>>> There's a free app called Meta View that can be downloaded from the iOS App 
>>> Store.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2024, at 08:28, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> By them do you mean Meta or Aira?  I assumed I would have to set up a Meta 
>>> account.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:15 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
 
 No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free 
 through your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
> Era?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
>> solved my problem:
>> 
>> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
>> 
>> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
>> 
>> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
>> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
>> setup process.
>> 
>> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
>> 
>> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
>> Vis post with the same problem here:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
>> 
>> 
>> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> 
>> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>> Hi Brad:
>>> 
>>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
>>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
>>> problem as described, unfortunately.
>>> 
>>> Argh!
>>> 
>>> Bradford Snyder writes:
 You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and 
 see if that helps.
 I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
 screen is unreadable.
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 
> On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
> them to my iPhone. I also
> have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
> for myself.
> 
> I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
> shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
> reads:
> 
> Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
> 
> Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
> instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
> further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
> also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there 
> is on Android).
> 
> So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
> welcome!
> 
> I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
> I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
> sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Janina
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
> Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
> 
> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative 
>

Re: Do Ray-ban AI glasses require a subscription? (was Solved: Meta Glasses on iPhone)

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

You don't need Facebook, either. It's true you have to set up an account
with Meta, though.


If AIRA is coming to these glasses, that changes my thinking about the
glasses. I'm currently on the fence whether to keep them, but I'm also
certain I'd keep them if AIRA worked with them.

Kaare Dehard writes:
> No, however, you do have to let them set up an account, which is free through 
> your Facebook. The initial set up will guide you through this.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 5, 2024, at 8:14???AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > ???Hi all,
> > 
> > I have a question about these glasses.  Do they require a subscription to 
> > Era?
> > Thanks,
> > Donna
> > 
> >> On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:58???AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Aha! The problem is Meta View doesn't like Voice Over much. Here's how I
> >> solved my problem:
> >> 
> >> 1. I turned off Voice Over while in the Meta View "Share Data" screen.
> >> 
> >> 2. I scrolled down with three fingers.
> >> 
> >> 3. The greyed Share and Don't Share buttons where now actionable, i.e.
> >> no longer dimmed (or greyed). I made my selection and continued the
> >> setup process.
> >> 
> >> Pretty hoakey, imo. Doesn't speak well for Meta at all, imo.
> >> 
> >> PS: Seems this issue's been there at least a few weeks. I found an Apple
> >> Vis post with the same problem here:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/stuck-sharing-data-screen-meta-view-app
> >> 
> >> 
> >> That message is from July. Come on, Meta. Fix your big bugs!
> >> 
> >> Janina
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries writes:
> >>> Hi Brad:
> >>> 
> >>> I've enabled Voice Over image descriptions in those settings. It was the
> >>> only function not previously enabled. The problem screen remains a
> >>> problem as described, unfortunately.
> >>> 
> >>> Argh!
> >>> 
> >>> Bradford Snyder writes:
>  You may want to enable VoiceOver???s Screen Recognition feature, and see 
>  if that helps.
>  I have found it to be very useful in certain situations where an apps 
>  screen is unreadable.
>  
>  - Brad -
>  
>  
>  
> > On Sep 2, 2024, at 09:19, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Ive recently acquired the Meta Ray-Ban AI enabled glasses and paired 
> > them to my iPhone. I also
> > have the Meta View app installed and I've successfully created a login
> > for myself.
> > 
> > I'm stuck on a screen I can't get beyond, and the sighted folks I've
> > shown that screen to sede no way beyond it either. The screen header
> > reads:
> > 
> > Share Additional Data to Improve Meta Products?
> > 
> > Both the Share and Don't Share buttons are greyed. the On screen
> > instructions say "Scroll to continue," but there seems to be nothing
> > further to scroll to, nothing up and nothing down. Apparently, there's
> > also no control hidden from IOS on this screen (as it turns out there 
> > is on Android).
> > 
> > So, I'm stuck with no obvious path forward. Any suggestions most
> > welcome!
> > 
> > I'm aware there are Facebook and Whatsapp groups for this device, but
> > I'm still avoiding the meta ecosystem as much as I can. I'd rather not
> > sign up for Whatsapp nor Facebook if I can avoid it.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Janina
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
> > Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
> > 
> > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa
> > 
> > Linux Foundation Fellow
> > https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
> > 
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