RE: Mac One Bundle is turning out to be a potential major PITA

[jpanarese]

I am not sure how the programs work overall, but I know that I simply 
continued to pay for my 200 GB of iCloud storage and received 50 GB with the 
original subscription to what it was called before Apple 1. I was confused at 
first because I was canceling my 200 GB subscription thinking that it would be 
incorporated into the new package, but that was not the case. So, I currently 
have 250 GB total and pay extra monthly for the 200 GB package. I didn’t know 
they had changed things again.

 

 

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Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2023 11:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Mac One Bundle is turning out to be a potential major PITA

 

Just clicked Family Storage upgraded my iCloud from 200GB to 4TB.  2TB of that 
is what we want to discontinue.  Still gives us 2TB which should be enough.

On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 9:43:09 PM UTC-6 Kevin Gibbs wrote:

Guys, 

My wife and I thought it might be a good idea to take advantage of the new Mac 
One Bundle so we can share Apple Music, Apple TV, Apple News and other stuff 
between the two of us. There’s just one major problem. Because of previous 
decisions we’ve made, I am listed as the “Organizer” and my wife is listed as 
an adult on the account. The problem is that while I have 200GB of iCloud 
storage, she has 2TB of storage. 

If we proceed with this, I gather that we will have to downgrade Pam’s iCloud 
from the 2TB she’s had for the last couple years in order to avoid double 
paying for the 2TB of data we want. Before doing this downgrade, we will have 
to download all 407GB of my wife’s 2TB of data so that it won’t be lost when we 
stop paying for her individual 2TB plan. Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to 
be any short method for backing up Pam’s music, photos, docs and mail all at 
once so that it can then be re-uploaded to a new 2TB stash which is part of the 
new shared bundle. 

As near as I can figure out, the only steps available appear to require the 
user to download mail, photos, music, docs and so on in separate format 
specific operations instead of being able to simply grab all the data in one 
long download operation. Am I missing something? It seems to me that it would 
make more sense to simply have an operation designed to transfer the whole lot 
of Pam’s 407GB from essentially one vault to another in one shot. Please let me 
know if I’m making sense and if I’m missing an operation that might make this a 
lot less painful. 

Best, 
Kevin 

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Re: Mac One Bundle is turning out to be a potential major PITA

[Kevin Gibbs]

I am guessing as to what is going on here. I plan to call Apple and find out the facts and I’ll get back to you all then.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 12, 2023, at 10:54 AM, jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:    I am not sure how the programs work overall, but I know that I simply continued to pay for my 200 GB of iCloud storage and received 50 GB with the original subscription to what it was called before Apple 1. I was confused at first because I was canceling my 200 GB subscription thinking that it would be incorporated into the new package, but that was not the case. So, I currently have 250 GB total and pay extra monthly for the 200 GB package. I didn’t know they had changed things again.  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin GibbsSent: Saturday, March 11, 2023 11:04 PMTo: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mac One Bundle is turning out to be a potential major PITA Just clicked Family Storage upgraded my iCloud from 200GB to 4TB.  2TB of that is what we want to discontinue.  Still gives us 2TB which should be enough.On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 9:43:09 PM UTC-6 Kevin Gibbs wrote:Guys, My wife and I thought it might be a good idea to take advantage of the new Mac One Bundle so we can share Apple Music, Apple TV, Apple News and other stuff between the two of us. There’s just one major problem. Because of previous decisions we’ve made, I am listed as the “Organizer” and my wife is listed as an adult on the account. The problem is that while I have 200GB of iCloud storage, she has 2TB of storage. If we proceed with this, I gather that we will have to downgrade Pam’s iCloud from the 2TB she’s had for the last couple years in order to avoid double paying for the 2TB of data we want. Before doing this downgrade, we will have to download all 407GB of my wife’s 2TB of data so that it won’t be lost when we stop paying for her individual 2TB plan. Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be any short method for backing up Pam’s music, photos, docs and mail all at once so that it can then be re-uploaded to a new 2TB stash which is part of the new shared bundle. As near as I can figure out, the only steps available appear to require the user to download mail, photos, music, docs and so on in separate format specific operations instead of being able to simply grab all the data in one long download operation. Am I missing something? It seems to me that it would make more sense to simply have an operation designed to transfer the whole lot of Pam’s 407GB from essentially one vault to another in one shot. Please let me know if I’m making sense and if I’m missing an operation that might make this a lot less painful. Best, Kevin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/0e3f5c5a-e9fa-482d-885e-d40cb8a60b3an%40googlegroups.com.



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Re: Dropbox media files mess

[Phil Halton]

I didn’t D sync from dropbox. I simply copied particular folders from dropbox 
and dropped them into iCloud folders. One strange thing I didn’t notice, the 
first time around I tried to just copy the whole dropbox folder and put it into 
iCloud. It did move, but the files app couldn’t see anything in it. Then I 
decided to just move individual folders from subdirectories out of the main 
dropbox, and they showed up fine in the files iOS app.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Mar 11, 2023, at 5:32 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>    Did you desync everything that was synced with DB on the Mac And did you 
> then sync whatever you want to use with iCloud Drive?
> 
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> will make violent revolution inevitable."
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>> On 3/11/2023 1:51 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>> No Herbie, I haven’t reinstalled Dropbox  on the Mac,, mostly because the 
>> Dropbox iOS app works perfectly well, and I can access all my stuff. It’s 
>> only when I try to use local apps on my Mac that I get weird results. I’m 
>> thinking of just sticking with Dropbox, I just don’t have the energy or the 
>> interest to try to debug an OS X problem. I did do a thorough first a check 
>> on the Macintosh HD volume from within recovery mode, but haven’t checked 
>> out to see whether that’s made a difference.
>> How would I do that by the way, go to dropbox.com and get a new installer, 
>> and then just open the installer package locally and let it overwrite the 
>> old dropbox? What I need to log out first etc.? Sent from my IPhone
 On Mar 11, 2023, at 1:14 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This sounds like an extension of the issues you are already experiencing. 
>>> Something is not sinking correctly in Dropbox. Have you tried reinstalling 
>>> Dropbox?
>>> 
 On Mar 11, 2023, at 11:44, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 I planned to cancel my dropbox subscription and made a copy of everything 
 in dropbox and place it in iCloud. It totals less than 30gb. But, media 
 files like mp3, m4a, etc are problematic. Trying to open any media file in 
 either iCloud or the local dropbox folders is most likely to result in an 
 error message or just unable to open it. Its really hit or miss as some 
 files will open, others will not. However, everything opens and plays 
 perfectly well using the IOS dropbox app. I've come to believe that it is 
 not dropbox' fault, but that something is really screwed up on my side.
 I've never done a clean upgrade or install of the various OSX updates and 
 I thing that maybe my file associations are a bit messed up. That's all I 
 can figure.
 So, I either go back to Dropbox with tail between my legs and pay the 
 renewal subscription, or I pull my hair out trying to fix this media file 
 mess.
 Any thoughts, feelings, admonitions, suggestions, quick fixes, etc?
 
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
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Re: Dropbox media files mess

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Let me out it in a different way. What app are you using to play 
these files? Are you opening that app and pointing it to the new location?


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On 3/12/2023 11:22 AM, Phil Halton wrote:

I didn’t D sync from dropbox. I simply copied particular folders from dropbox 
and dropped them into iCloud folders. One strange thing I didn’t notice, the 
first time around I tried to just copy the whole dropbox folder and put it into 
iCloud. It did move, but the files app couldn’t see anything in it. Then I 
decided to just move individual folders from subdirectories out of the main 
dropbox, and they showed up fine in the files iOS app.

Sent from my IPhone



On Mar 11, 2023, at 5:32 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Did you desync everything that was synced with DB on the Mac And did you 
then sync whatever you want to use with iCloud Drive?

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will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
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On 3/11/2023 1:51 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
No Herbie, I haven’t reinstalled Dropbox  on the Mac,, mostly because the 
Dropbox iOS app works perfectly well, and I can access all my stuff. It’s only 
when I try to use local apps on my Mac that I get weird results. I’m thinking 
of just sticking with Dropbox, I just don’t have the energy or the interest to 
try to debug an OS X problem. I did do a thorough first a check on the 
Macintosh HD volume from within recovery mode, but haven’t checked out to see 
whether that’s made a difference.
How would I do that by the way, go to dropbox.com and get a new installer, and 
then just open the installer package locally and let it overwrite the old 
dropbox? What I need to log out first etc.? Sent from my IPhone

On Mar 11, 2023, at 1:14 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:


This sounds like an extension of the issues you are already experiencing. 
Something is not sinking correctly in Dropbox. Have you tried reinstalling 
Dropbox?


On Mar 11, 2023, at 11:44, Phil Halton  wrote:

I planned to cancel my dropbox subscription and made a copy of everything in 
dropbox and place it in iCloud. It totals less than 30gb. But, media files like 
mp3, m4a, etc are problematic. Trying to open any media file in either iCloud 
or the local dropbox folders is most likely to result in an error message or 
just unable to open it. Its really hit or miss as some files will open, others 
will not. However, everything opens and plays perfectly well using the IOS 
dropbox app. I've come to believe that it is not dropbox' fault, but that 
something is really screwed up on my side.
I've never done a clean upgrade or install of the various OSX updates and I 
thing that maybe my file associations are a bit messed up. That's all I can 
figure.
So, I either go back to Dropbox with tail between my legs and pay the renewal 
subscription, or I pull my hair out trying to fix this media file mess.
Any thoughts, feelings, admonitions, suggestions, quick fixes, etc?


Sent from my IPhone

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Re: Mac One Bundle is turning out to be a potential major PITA

[Kevin Gibbs]

Just spoke to Apple and here’s the deal.  Remember that before the bundle, I, 
the Organizer, had a 200GB plan.  My wife, the Adult, had a 2TB plan.  We 
thought that she should cancel her 2TB plan before it auto renewed on April 1.  
But that would have caused a disaster.  The Apple advisor informed us that the 
correct procedure was for Pam to do nothing and allow us to be billed for her 
2TB plan on April 1 as usual.  When the Apple One Bundle renewed on April 10, 
her 2TB plan would automatically be canceled and she would receive a prorated 
refund for the number of days she didn’t use.  Meanwhile, her data would be 
rolled into the remaining 2TB that we bought as part of buying the largest 
available Apple One Bundle.  Again, this isn’t intuitive.  But we will sit 
still and do nothing, taking care to do a thorough backup of both our Macs with 
Time Machine to cover ourselves against a calamity.  If all works out well, we 
should see our total data decline from 4TB to 2TB on or about April 10 and all 
will be well going forward.  

Thanks for all the help and I hope someone finds this useful.

Best,
Kevin





> On Mar 12, 2023, at 10:53 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
> I am not sure how the programs work overall, but I know that I simply 
> continued to pay for my 200 GB of iCloud storage and received 50 GB with the 
> original subscription to what it was called before Apple 1. I was confused at 
> first because I was canceling my 200 GB subscription thinking that it would 
> be incorporated into the new package, but that was not the case. So, I 
> currently have 250 GB total and pay extra monthly for the 200 GB package. I 
> didn’t know they had changed things again.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2023 11:04 PM
> To: MacVisionaries  >
> Subject: Re: Mac One Bundle is turning out to be a potential major PITA
>  
> Just clicked Family Storage upgraded my iCloud from 200GB to 4TB.  2TB of 
> that is what we want to discontinue.  Still gives us 2TB which should be 
> enough.
> 
> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 9:43:09 PM UTC-6 Kevin Gibbs wrote:
>> Guys, 
>> 
>> My wife and I thought it might be a good idea to take advantage of the new 
>> Mac One Bundle so we can share Apple Music, Apple TV, Apple News and other 
>> stuff between the two of us. There’s just one major problem. Because of 
>> previous decisions we’ve made, I am listed as the “Organizer” and my wife is 
>> listed as an adult on the account. The problem is that while I have 200GB of 
>> iCloud storage, she has 2TB of storage. 
>> 
>> If we proceed with this, I gather that we will have to downgrade Pam’s 
>> iCloud from the 2TB she’s had for the last couple years in order to avoid 
>> double paying for the 2TB of data we want. Before doing this downgrade, we 
>> will have to download all 407GB of my wife’s 2TB of data so that it won’t be 
>> lost when we stop paying for her individual 2TB plan. Unfortunately, there 
>> doesn’t seem to be any short method for backing up Pam’s music, photos, docs 
>> and mail all at once so that it can then be re-uploaded to a new 2TB stash 
>> which is part of the new shared bundle. 
>> 
>> As near as I can figure out, the only steps available appear to require the 
>> user to download mail, photos, music, docs and so on in separate format 
>> specific operations instead of being able to simply grab all the data in one 
>> long download operation. Am I missing something? It seems to me that it 
>> would make more sense to simply have an operation designed to transfer the 
>> whole lot of Pam’s 407GB from essentially one vault to another in one shot. 
>> Please let me know if I’m making sense and if I’m missing an operation that 
>> might make this a lot less painful. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> Kevin 
>> 
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Re: Navigating app store

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
I hadn’t looked at this in a bit. It seems on the Mac, that one needs to turn 
off some of the cursor tracking in order to view all the details about an App. 
I once had a link to aa web page that used JS to query Apple Store / App Store 
/ iTunes store and gave a much cleaner interface. I don’t know if this site 
still exists and I could not find anything in my history.  But perhaps you can 
search mailing list archives and find my reference to this.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 7, 2023, at 6:45 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Hi all, How do I get into the app’s description? It seems like my only option 
> is to get it or purchase it. I’ve tried interacting deeper and deeper, but 
> this doesn’t open up the description, reviews, etc.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Accessible password managers

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people find easily 
accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been using 1password for many 
years but following their continuous development - as is often the case - I’m 
finding their app more and more difficult to use.

Andrew

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Re: Accessible password managers

[Steve Matzura]

I haven't tried this on other platforms than MacOS, but Bit Warden 
 looks pretty good. I just have a fundamental 
objection to subscriptionware and storing a password container in the 
cloud. That's one of the reasons I've stuck with 1Password version 4 for 
as long as I have. I paid for it once and I can put my password vault 
anywhere ai like, on any device, and it need never see the cloud.



On 3/12/2023 5:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people find easily 
accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been using 1password for many 
years but following their continuous development - as is often the case - I’m 
finding their app more and more difficult to use.

Andrew



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Re: Accessible password managers

['Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries]

Apple’s own password manager is very accessible on Apple hardware. There is a 
version for Windows as well, but I haven’t experimented with it.
As far as I know, there is no Linux version.
I’ve read favorable comments elsewhere about BitWarden, but I haven’t installed 
it.

From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Date: Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 17:27
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Accessible password managers
Hi,

I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people find easily 
accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been using 1password for many 
years but following their continuous development - as is often the case - I’m 
finding their app more and more difficult to use.

Andrew

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Re: Accessible password managers

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I don't disagree but I think the 1Password app provides many 
benefits aside from storing passwords. Send them feedback.


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On 3/12/2023 2:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people find easily 
accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been using 1password for many 
years but following their continuous development - as is often the case - I’m 
finding their app more and more difficult to use.

Andrew



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