Re: Ventura and Amadeus Pro

2022-12-30 Thread Raymond Foret Jr 
I use Amadeus Pro and Ventura.  Thus far, I have experienced no problems.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud Mac, Xfinity Mobile and Apple TV user

> On Dec 29, 2022, at 11:10 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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> I need to upgrade to Ventura, but using Amadeus Pro is necessary for me. Does 
> anyone know if problems between it and Ventura have been resolved?
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Re: Strange behavior with the latest Mac OSX.

2022-12-30 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn 
Here’s some information about the butterfly keyboard:Keyboard Service Program for MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro - Apple Supportsupport.apple.com🔎 butterfly keyboard MacBook Pro - Google Searchgoogle.comSent from my iPhone https://support.apple.com/keyboard-service-program-for-mac-notebooksOn Dec 29, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:The what?On Dec 29, 2022, at 10:26 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:You don’t put chance have the infamous butterfly keyboard? This is one of the symptoms when dirt gets in the keyboard.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 28, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:Hi!When such things happens it use. To be that I have something laying on the keyboard such as a calle or anything.SO not sure really what could be causing this./A28 dec. 2022 kl. 23:11 skrev Jessica Moss :Just the standard one that came with my MacBook Pro.On Dec 28, 2022, at 5:10 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:Hi!Not that I am aware of.What keyboard do you have?/A28 dec. 2022 kl. 22:55 skrev Jessica Moss :I’ve been noticing lately since the latest update, that when typing within any app/web page via Voiceover, when I type simple things like T’s/R’s, T’s being the biggest culprit, they will suddenly type multiple times without me even knowing it.  This has just started since I updated, so that’s Gott me curious if anyone else has experienced this.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/6E2E1628-C9D5-4FFC-A4E5-DE5E752A8AF4%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/0871CDEF-B850-4AB6-B440-318127C3DAB7%40pipkrokodil.se.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/5D3111C4-C22A-48F1-BE36-9BBA227405F9%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+u

Why This Dialog?

2022-12-30 Thread Fazil M. 
Hi, group.

I use most updated Ventura with MacbookPro2017.

Periodically, I get a dialog box that says something like the following:

"are you sure that you want to quit all application and log out?"

I try to find a 'Yes/no' button somewhere but can not find it and

The system logs me out in few moments and I have to log on back.

How can I fix this unwanted logout, please?

Thanks!

 

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Re: Why This Dialog?

2022-12-30 Thread Herbie Allen 
I think you are doing a lock screen command which is logging you out of 
everything. I think that is a Command Shift Q.

> On Dec 30, 2022, at 11:03, Fazil M.  wrote:
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> Hi, group.
> I use most updated Ventura with MacbookPro2017.
> Periodically, I get a dialog box that says something like the following:
> “are you sure that you want to quit all application and log out?”
> I try to find a ‘Yes/no’ button somewhere but can not find it and
> The system logs me out in few moments and I have to log on back.
> How can I fix this unwanted logout, please?
> Thanks!
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RE: Why This Dialog?

2022-12-30 Thread Fazil M. 
Actually, I am no way near the computer when I hear voiceover say this.

Thanks!

 

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I think you are doing a lock screen command which is logging you out of 
everything. I think that is a Command Shift Q.





On Dec 30, 2022, at 11:03, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, group.

I use most updated Ventura with MacbookPro2017.

Periodically, I get a dialog box that says something like the following:

“are you sure that you want to quit all application and log out?”

I try to find a ‘Yes/no’ button somewhere but can not find it and

The system logs me out in few moments and I have to log on back.

How can I fix this unwanted logout, please?

Thanks!

 

 

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Re: Why This Dialog?

2022-12-30 Thread Herbie Allen 
I think I’m still right in the screen lock, but it’s doing it while the Mac is 
going to sleep.

> On Dec 30, 2022, at 11:40, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> Actually, I am no way near the computer when I hear voiceover say this.
> Thanks!
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Herbie Allen
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 9:38 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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>  
> I think you are doing a lock screen command which is logging you out of 
> everything. I think that is a Command Shift Q.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2022, at 11:03, Fazil M. > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, group.
>> I use most updated Ventura with MacbookPro2017.
>> Periodically, I get a dialog box that says something like the following:
>> “are you sure that you want to quit all application and log out?”
>> I try to find a ‘Yes/no’ button somewhere but can not find it and
>> The system logs me out in few moments and I have to log on back.
>> How can I fix this unwanted logout, please?
>> Thanks!
>>  
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Re: Why This Dialog?

2022-12-30 Thread Bradford Snyder 
Yes, CMD + Shift + Q, is the command for Logout.
My guess is that you are intending to do CMD + Q, and are unintentionally 
including the Shift key when doing this command.

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On Dec 30, 2022, at 11:38, Herbie Allen  wrote:

I think you are doing a lock screen command which is logging you out of 
everything. I think that is a Command Shift Q.

> On Dec 30, 2022, at 11:03, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> Hi, group.
> I use most updated Ventura with MacbookPro2017.
> Periodically, I get a dialog box that says something like the following:
> “are you sure that you want to quit all application and log out?”
> I try to find a ‘Yes/no’ button somewhere but can not find it and
> The system logs me out in few moments and I have to log on back.
> How can I fix this unwanted logout, please?
> Thanks!
>  
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Re: Why This Dialog?

2022-12-30 Thread Bradford Snyder 
Maybe it is the cat.  LOL!

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On Dec 30, 2022, at 11:40, Fazil M.  wrote:

Actually, I am no way near the computer when I hear voiceover say this.
Thanks!
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Herbie Allen
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 9:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Why This Dialog?
 
I think you are doing a lock screen command which is logging you out of 
everything. I think that is a Command Shift Q.


> On Dec 30, 2022, at 11:03, Fazil M.  > wrote:
>  
> Hi, group.
> I use most updated Ventura with MacbookPro2017.
> Periodically, I get a dialog box that says something like the following:
> “are you sure that you want to quit all application and log out?”
> I try to find a ‘Yes/no’ button somewhere but can not find it and
> The system logs me out in few moments and I have to log on back.
> How can I fix this unwanted logout, please?
> Thanks!
>  
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Re: Why This Dialog?

2022-12-30 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn 
There is also the possibility that an auto shutdown is enabled on the computer. I am 300 miles away from my laptop, so I can’t test this theory.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 30, 2022, at 1:21 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:Maybe it is the cat.  LOL!
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certified apple teacher?

2022-12-30 Thread Karen Lewellen 

Hi folks,
the Subject line was a part of Tim's signature.
Anyone know to what this refers?
thanks,
Karen

Re: certified apple teacher?

2022-12-30 Thread Herbie Allen 
I am thinking it means he was a certified Apple teacher.

> On Dec 30, 2022, at 13:30, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> the Subject line was a part of Tim's signature.
> Anyone know to what this refers?
> thanks,
> Karen
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Re: certified apple teacher?

2022-12-30 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
I always thought Apple Certified meant Apple Certified. As was Swift Playground 
pretty obvious. I have an iPad Pro specifically for learning Swift but have 
never quite got around to learning it. Yet another unfinished goal. However, I 
always wanted to ask Tim what Jam Certified was.  I asked all three of my 
personal assistants but none of them could tell me.
Merv


> On Dec 30, 2022, at 2:49 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> I am thinking it means he was a certified Apple teacher.
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2022, at 13:30, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
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>> Hi folks,
>> the Subject line was a part of Tim's signature.
>> Anyone know to what this refers?
>> thanks,
>> Karen
>> 
>> 
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Re: certified apple teacher?

2022-12-30 Thread Herbie Allen 
There is a specific Apple certification program. John Pannerese would be 
someone to talk to about specifics.

> On Dec 30, 2022, at 14:40, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I always thought Apple Certified meant Apple Certified. As was Swift 
> Playground pretty obvious. I have an iPad Pro specifically for learning Swift 
> but have never quite got around to learning it. Yet another unfinished goal. 
> However, I always wanted to ask Tim what Jam Certified was.  I asked all 
> three of my personal assistants but none of them could tell me.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2022, at 2:49 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> I am thinking it means he was a certified Apple teacher.
>> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2022, at 13:30, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> the Subject line was a part of Tim's signature.
>>> Anyone know to what this refers?
>>> thanks,
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> 
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Adding to the roater

2022-12-30 Thread Agent086b 
Hi all,
how do you ad items to the Roater in Ventura?
Thanks for any help.
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Accessing BCC in Mac Mail?

2022-12-30 Thread Fazil M. 
Hi.

How can I access BCC field in Mail, please?

Thanks!

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Re: certified apple teacher?

2022-12-30 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn 
JAMF is a mDM   mobile device management  service. It used to maintain fleets 
of computers that need to be managed by a school or corporation.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2022, at 3:47 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> There is a specific Apple certification program. John Pannerese would be 
> someone to talk to about specifics.
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2022, at 14:40, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I always thought Apple Certified meant Apple Certified. As was Swift 
>> Playground pretty obvious. I have an iPad Pro specifically for learning 
>> Swift but have never quite got around to learning it. Yet another unfinished 
>> goal. However, I always wanted to ask Tim what Jam Certified was.  I asked 
>> all three of my personal assistants but none of them could tell me.
>> Merv
>> 
>> 
 On Dec 30, 2022, at 2:49 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am thinking it means he was a certified Apple teacher.
>>> 
 On Dec 30, 2022, at 13:30, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 the Subject line was a part of Tim's signature.
 Anyone know to what this refers?
 thanks,
 Karen
 
 
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Re: Accessing BCC in Mac Mail?

2022-12-30 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn 
Try looking at the few menu under headers or message headers. There should be a show bcc field and a sub menu there.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 30, 2022, at 5:53 PM, Fazil M.  wrote:
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Re: Adding to the roater

2022-12-30 Thread Bradford Snyder 
Go to VoiceOver Utility > Web Category, then select the Web Rotor tab.

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On Dec 30, 2022, at 16:37, Agent086b  wrote:

Hi all,
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Re: Adding to the roater

2022-12-30 Thread Herbie Allen 
VO Utility with VO F8. In the table of choices, look for Web. There are three 
options when you right Arrow from that spot. VO space on Web Roter. VO right to 
the table and select or deslect what you want and don’t want. Command Up and 
Down aero’s on an item will change it’s position in the roter.

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Re: certified apple teacher?

2022-12-30 Thread Karen Lewellen 
certified  by whom, as in  is there a directory of other likewise 
certified apple teachers?

I realize I walked right into that, but still laughs.



On Fri, 30 Dec 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:


I am thinking it means he was a certified Apple teacher.


On Dec 30, 2022, at 13:30, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi folks,
the Subject line was a part of Tim's signature.
Anyone know to what this refers?
thanks,
Karen




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Re: certified apple teacher?

2022-12-30 Thread Herbie Allen 
I know Apple has their own certification program. From what I understand, it’s 
not on VoiceOver specifically but the Mac as a whole operating system right 
down to its nuts and bults.

> On Dec 30, 2022, at 20:15, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> certified  by whom, as in  is there a directory of other likewise certified 
> apple teachers?
> I realize I walked right into that, but still laughs.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:
> 
>> I am thinking it means he was a certified Apple teacher.
>> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2022, at 13:30, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> the Subject line was a part of Tim's signature.
>>> Anyone know to what this refers?
>>> thanks,
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: certified apple teacher?

2022-12-30 Thread Karen Lewellen 

Just so, as should be the case.
Indeed, in answer to another post.  Tim maintained the computers and 
networks for his school, the entire district I believe.

will ask John.



On Fri, 30 Dec 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:


I know Apple has their own certification program. From what I understand, it’s 
not on VoiceOver specifically but the Mac as a whole operating system right 
down to its nuts and bults.


On Dec 30, 2022, at 20:15, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

certified  by whom, as in  is there a directory of other likewise certified 
apple teachers?
I realize I walked right into that, but still laughs.



On Fri, 30 Dec 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:


I am thinking it means he was a certified Apple teacher.


On Dec 30, 2022, at 13:30, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi folks,
the Subject line was a part of Tim's signature.
Anyone know to what this refers?
thanks,
Karen




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