Re: boot options at start up not working

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Yes, holding the option key on boot should bring up the Boot Picker, although 
it is not accessible with VoiceOver.  This process has also changed for the M1 
Macs, although if you’re using BootCamp, then you are not on an M1.  Sometimes, 
the timing of holding down the option key is tricky.  Try shutting down the 
Mac, waiting for about 10 seconds, then press the power button, then pressing 
the option key right away, even before the Startup chime sounds.  Make sure to 
hold it through the Startup Chime and for at least five seconds after the chime 
has finished.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Aug 10, 2021, at 10:12 PM, The wolf  wrote:
> 
> that works but the holding the option key at boot up is not
> 
> why is this?
> 
> according to apple it should
> 
> On 8/10/2021 8:41 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:
>> Try holding down Command R for 10 seconds when booting up and that should 
>> bring up the recovery menu.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 21:57, The wolf  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello I am trying to get to the boot options when starting up the mac so I 
>>> can select what os I want to boot to
>>> 
>>> when the chime sounds I hold down the option key
>>> 
>>> the os that it is set to load to boots up it does not give me the option on 
>>> what os to boot to
>>> 
>>> it should give me
>>> 
>>> mac boot camp or recovery
>>> 
>>> can any one help me trouble shoot this?
>>> 
>>> Hank
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: What audio editing apps work well on the Mac with Voiceover

[Cara Quinn]

Just to add a bit to this thread and clear up a possible misunderstanding.

I haven’t seen anyone mention Sound forge (now owned by Magix), Sound Studio or 
Wave Pad.

It’s been a while since I’ve used these but they might be of help.

One tip for Sound Studio, at least used to be to turn off cursor tracking, 
which made the app work quite well with VO.

Also, since Sound Forge Pro is now about $300 US, Logic Pro may be a better 
option if you would like a complete professional solution with less cost.

Secondly, on the subject of Logic, having used both ProTools and Logic, I’m 
wondering what issues people are finding with the accessibility of Logic?

I use it on a daily basis for audio editing and production work and can vouch 
for an extraordinarily high level of accessibility with VO.

So hope this helps.

Have a great day!

Cheers!

Cara



> On Aug 9, 2021, at 3:32 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I still wonder why mac’s own Logic Pro isn’t better supported by VoiceOver.
> It  works and  I am not a good user but it should  work better I think.
> /A
> 
>> 8 aug. 2021 kl. 23:08 skrev Karen Lewellen :
>> 
>> well...yes.
>> Pro tools is a roles Royce or Mercedes
>> Many here may only need a ford, or even just a bicycle for their sound work.
>> Do not mistake me, Pro tools  is the program on which my radio production 
>> work is based, long before the supports Chuck speaks of even existed.
>> But,  there is a professional reason for that investment.
>> One not everyone needs to make.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 8 Aug 2021, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> But come on Chuck!
>>> I don’t do music and I don’t need a costly app with thousands of effects 
>>> and features.
>>> Yes I believe you.
>>> But most people can’t afford that.
>>> /A
>>> 
 8 aug. 2021 kl. 21:05 skrev Chuck Reichel 
 :
 
 Hi Guys,
 The short answer is Avid Pro Tools.
 I’ve been editing audio with it for many years now and its straight 
 forward but does cost a bit.
 Our Avid beta teem is constantly working to keep accessibility in the 
 forefront for Pro Tools! :)
 
 Talk soon
 Chuck
 
 
> On Aug 8, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Herbie Allen  > wrote:
> 
> Amadeus Pro is a great app. A bit querky perhaps, but once you start 
> practicing, you get used to how it works.
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2021, at 10:08, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> No I don't think so.
>> I haven’t found any.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 8 aug. 2021 kl. 16:10 skrev Frank Ventura 
>>> >> >:
>>> 
>>> I would be interested in Twistedwave, are there any tutorials for it?
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> >> > On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 10:07 AM
>>> To: 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries >> >
>>> Subject: Re: What audio editing apps work well on the Mac with Voiceover
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> There is Amadeus Pro but its not very easy to use but works very well.
>>> Jonathan Mosen has made a daisy book on how to use the Amadeus Pro.
>>> There is also twisted wave which also is available for iOS.
>>> I was going to learn it but there has been so much things in the way.
>>> /A
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 8 aug. 2021 kl. 04:40 skrev Frank Ventura 
>>> >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, can anyone recommend an easy to use audio editing program for 
>>> the Mac that works well with voice over? Also any tutorials would also 
>>> be appreciated. Thanks
>>> 
>>> Frank Ventura
>>> 
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Re: What audio editing apps work well on the Mac with Voiceover

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I don’t get the hang of logic band I also don’t get how to come to the effects.
But I saw that there were some  tutorials on Logic Pro with VOiceOver on 
YouTube.
So I might have look at them.
/A

> 11 aug. 2021 kl. 18:51 skrev Cara Quinn :
> 
> Just to add a bit to this thread and clear up a possible misunderstanding.
> 
> I haven’t seen anyone mention Sound forge (now owned by Magix), Sound Studio 
> or Wave Pad.
> 
> It’s been a while since I’ve used these but they might be of help.
> 
> One tip for Sound Studio, at least used to be to turn off cursor tracking, 
> which made the app work quite well with VO.
> 
> Also, since Sound Forge Pro is now about $300 US, Logic Pro may be a better 
> option if you would like a complete professional solution with less cost.
> 
> Secondly, on the subject of Logic, having used both ProTools and Logic, I’m 
> wondering what issues people are finding with the accessibility of Logic?
> 
> I use it on a daily basis for audio editing and production work and can vouch 
> for an extraordinarily high level of accessibility with VO.
> 
> So hope this helps.
> 
> Have a great day!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Cara
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2021, at 3:32 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I still wonder why mac’s own Logic Pro isn’t better supported by VoiceOver.
>> It  works and  I am not a good user but it should  work better I think.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 8 aug. 2021 kl. 23:08 skrev Karen Lewellen :
>>> 
>>> well...yes.
>>> Pro tools is a roles Royce or Mercedes
>>> Many here may only need a ford, or even just a bicycle for their sound work.
>>> Do not mistake me, Pro tools  is the program on which my radio production 
>>> work is based, long before the supports Chuck speaks of even existed.
>>> But,  there is a professional reason for that investment.
>>> One not everyone needs to make.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 8 Aug 2021, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>>> 
 Hi!
 But come on Chuck!
 I don’t do music and I don’t need a costly app with thousands of effects 
 and features.
 Yes I believe you.
 But most people can’t afford that.
 /A
 
> 8 aug. 2021 kl. 21:05 skrev Chuck Reichel 
> :
> 
> Hi Guys,
> The short answer is Avid Pro Tools.
> I’ve been editing audio with it for many years now and its straight 
> forward but does cost a bit.
> Our Avid beta teem is constantly working to keep accessibility in the 
> forefront for Pro Tools! :)
> 
> Talk soon
> Chuck
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Herbie Allen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Amadeus Pro is a great app. A bit querky perhaps, but once you start 
>> practicing, you get used to how it works.
>> 
>>> On Aug 8, 2021, at 10:08, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> No I don't think so.
>>> I haven’t found any.
>>> /A
>>> 
 8 aug. 2021 kl. 16:10 skrev Frank Ventura 
 >>> >:
 
 I would be interested in Twistedwave, are there any tutorials for it?
 
 thanks
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  
 >>> > On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
 Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 10:07 AM
 To: 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries >>> >
 Subject: Re: What audio editing apps work well on the Mac with 
 Voiceover
 
 Hi!
 There is Amadeus Pro but its not very easy to use but works very well.
 Jonathan Mosen has made a daisy book on how to use the Amadeus Pro.
 There is also twisted wave which also is available for iOS.
 I was going to learn it but there has been so much things in the way.
 /A
 
 
 8 aug. 2021 kl. 04:40 skrev Frank Ventura 
 >>> >:
 
 Hi all, can anyone recommend an easy to use audio editing program for 
 the Mac that works well with voice over? Also any tutorials would also 
 be appreciated. Thanks
 
 Frank Ventura
 
 
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RE: boot options at start up not working

[ilovecountrymusic483]

Did you disable the opsion to boot from external disks?  You need to go into 
the recovery and enable this to get this to work.  

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of The wolf
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 12:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; Herbie Allen 
Subject: Re: boot options at start up not working

that works but the holding the option key at boot up is not

why is this?

according to apple it should

On 8/10/2021 8:41 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:
> Try holding down Command R for 10 seconds when booting up and that should 
> bring up the recovery menu.
>
>
>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 21:57, The wolf  wrote:
>>
>> Hello I am trying to get to the boot options when starting up the mac so I 
>> can select what os I want to boot to
>>
>> when the chime sounds I hold down the option key
>>
>> the os that it is set to load to boots up it does not give me the option on 
>> what os to boot to
>>
>> it should give me
>>
>> mac boot camp or recovery
>>
>> can any one help me trouble shoot this?
>>
>> Hank
>>
>>
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Re: boot options at start up not working

[The wolf]

um I don't think I did how can I check? where do I go to see?

On 8/11/2021 12:28 PM, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote:

Did you disable the opsion to boot from external disks?  You need to go into 
the recovery and enable this to get this to work.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of The wolf
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 12:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; Herbie Allen 
Subject: Re: boot options at start up not working

that works but the holding the option key at boot up is not

why is this?

according to apple it should

On 8/10/2021 8:41 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:

Try holding down Command R for 10 seconds when booting up and that should bring 
up the recovery menu.



On Aug 10, 2021, at 21:57, The wolf  wrote:

Hello I am trying to get to the boot options when starting up the mac so I can 
select what os I want to boot to

when the chime sounds I hold down the option key

the os that it is set to load to boots up it does not give me the option on 
what os to boot to

it should give me

mac boot camp or recovery

can any one help me trouble shoot this?

Hank


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