Re: What audio editing apps work well on the Mac with Voiceover

2021-08-09 Thread Anders Holmberg 
Hi!
I still wonder why mac’s own Logic Pro isn’t better supported by VoiceOver.
It  works and  I am not a good user but it should  work better I think.
/A

> 8 aug. 2021 kl. 23:08 skrev Karen Lewellen :
> 
> well...yes.
> Pro tools is a roles Royce or Mercedes
> Many here may only need a ford, or even just a bicycle for their sound work.
> Do not mistake me, Pro tools  is the program on which my radio production 
> work is based, long before the supports Chuck speaks of even existed.
> But,  there is a professional reason for that investment.
> One not everyone needs to make.
> Kare
> 
> 
> On Sun, 8 Aug 2021, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> But come on Chuck!
>> I don’t do music and I don’t need a costly app with thousands of effects and 
>> features.
>> Yes I believe you.
>> But most people can’t afford that.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 8 aug. 2021 kl. 21:05 skrev Chuck Reichel :
>>> 
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> The short answer is Avid Pro Tools.
>>> I’ve been editing audio with it for many years now and its straight forward 
>>> but does cost a bit.
>>> Our Avid beta teem is constantly working to keep accessibility in the 
>>> forefront for Pro Tools! :)
>>> 
>>> Talk soon
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 8, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Herbie Allen >>> > wrote:
 
 Amadeus Pro is a great app. A bit querky perhaps, but once you start 
 practicing, you get used to how it works.
 
> On Aug 8, 2021, at 10:08, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> No I don't think so.
> I haven’t found any.
> /A
> 
>> 8 aug. 2021 kl. 16:10 skrev Frank Ventura 
>> > >:
>> 
>> I would be interested in Twistedwave, are there any tutorials for it?
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> > > On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 10:07 AM
>> To: 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries > >
>> Subject: Re: What audio editing apps work well on the Mac with Voiceover
>> 
>> Hi!
>> There is Amadeus Pro but its not very easy to use but works very well.
>> Jonathan Mosen has made a daisy book on how to use the Amadeus Pro.
>> There is also twisted wave which also is available for iOS.
>> I was going to learn it but there has been so much things in the way.
>> /A
>> 
>> 
>> 8 aug. 2021 kl. 04:40 skrev Frank Ventura 
>> > >:
>> 
>> Hi all, can anyone recommend an easy to use audio editing program for 
>> the Mac that works well with voice over? Also any tutorials would also 
>> be appreciated. Thanks
>> 
>> Frank Ventura
>> 
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Re: Keeping an open app in the doc in big sur?

2021-08-09 Thread Jonathan Cohn 
Hello,

I thought this was fixed in 11.5 In any case, it might not be you, but the OS. 
The main thing to know about Big Sur is its has a second contextual menu called 
actions.
This is access with vo-command-space . It usually has the regular contextual 
menu as the last item.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Aug 8, 2021, at 15:15, Chuck Reichel  
> wrote:
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> Hi List,
> I just started moving to big sur and can’t seem to get a contextual menu open 
> in the doc for an app thats currently running.
> What is the trick to keep an app in the doc these days?
> When I try to get to the option to “keep in doc” it just seems to go in to 
> the “twilight zone”! :)
> Any Help out there?
> thanks
> Chuck
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Re: Keeping an open app in the doc in big sur?

2021-08-09 Thread Brad Snyder 
It was fixed in 11.4.

- Brad -

On Aug 9, 2021, at 07:07, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Hello,

I thought this was fixed in 11.5 In any case, it might not be you, but the OS. 
The main thing to know about Big Sur is its has a second contextual menu called 
actions.
This is access with vo-command-space . It usually has the regular contextual 
menu as the last item.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Aug 8, 2021, at 15:15, Chuck Reichel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
> I just started moving to big sur and can’t seem to get a contextual menu open 
> in the doc for an app thats currently running.
> What is the trick to keep an app in the doc these days?
> When I try to get to the option to “keep in doc” it just seems to go in to 
> the “twilight zone”! :)
> Any Help out there?
> thanks
> Chuck
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Re: Keeping an open app in the doc in big sur?

2021-08-09 Thread Chuck Reichel 
Hi Jonathan,
Thanks that hit the mark!
Chuck



> On Aug 9, 2021, at 8:06 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I thought this was fixed in 11.5 In any case, it might not be you, but the 
> OS. The main thing to know about Big Sur is its has a second contextual menu 
> called actions.
> This is access with vo-command-space . It usually has the regular contextual 
> menu as the last item.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2021, at 15:15, Chuck Reichel > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> I just started moving to big sur and can’t seem to get a contextual menu 
>> open in the doc for an app thats currently running.
>> What is the trick to keep an app in the doc these days?
>> When I try to get to the option to “keep in doc” it just seems to go in to 
>> the “twilight zone”! :)
>> Any Help out there?
>> thanks
>> Chuck
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Re: What audio editing apps work well on the Mac with Voiceover

2021-08-09 Thread Eric Oyen 
Hmmm. Ok, that was something I wasn’t aware of. I have an older model white 
book that uses OS X Lion. Since that’s my goto multimedia machine, that is the 
version I tend to use (I think it was last updated to 1.5.3 and that was as far 
as it went). It might be time to test later versions on my Catalina based Mac 
mini here and see what’s up.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

-Eric


> On Aug 8, 2021, at 7:09 AM, Frank Ventura  
> wrote:
> 
> Eric, I must be looking in the wrong place as what I found for Audacity 
> suggests that versions after 2.0 have voiceover accessibility issues. What 
> version should I be looking for?
>  
> thanks
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Eric Oyen
> Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 1:47 AM
> To: [MacVisionaries] 
> Subject: Re: What audio editing apps work well on the Mac with Voiceover
>  
> Check out audacity. It’s not just a mixer app. You can use it to edit and 
> change audio files. The site that hosts it has extensive tutorials.
>  
> -Eric
>  
> 
> 
> On Aug 7, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Frank Ventura  > wrote:
>  
> Hi all, can anyone recommend an easy to use audio editing program for the Mac 
> that works well with voice over? Also any tutorials would also be 
> appreciated. Thanks
>  
> Frank Ventura
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Re: What audio editing apps work well on the Mac with Voiceover

2021-08-09 Thread Eric Oyen 
Well, considering the cost, wouldn’t it be better to have a two tiered setup 
here?

Pro tools is great if you are in the professional audio editing and production 
field, but many of us don’t have that kind of cash laying around. How about a 
basic version that gives us some basic functions (like editing, clipping, 
joining and perhaps single type cross fading between joined clips?. Sell it for 
$19 on a yearly subscription and have an option to upgrade to pro built in. I 
have some forensics software that I purchased on this model for drive recovery 
and imaging. The basic was $59 and gave me what I needed. Now, if I were to 
upgrade to the enterprise version, that would be $500 annually. Unless I am in 
a professional environment needing that level of access, I don’t consider it 
worth the investment. Btw, that package is called disk drill (a combo drive 
recovery and forensics package).

In the case of audio tools, there are quite a few out there. Some are 
accessible and some are not. There is also the macports tree with a lot of 
command line tools that can accomplish a great deal (I know, it’s how I have 
recoded my entire video library to be able to play on any device). With those 
command line tools, I can also transcode one format to another (MP3’s are nice, 
but lossy and my ears can tell).

Anyway, hopefully you find my suggestion workable.

-Eric


> On Aug 8, 2021, at 12:05 PM, Chuck Reichel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> The short answer is Avid Pro Tools.
> I’ve been editing audio with it for many years now and its straight forward 
> but does cost a bit.
> Our Avid beta teem is constantly working to keep accessibility in the 
> forefront for Pro Tools! :)
> 
> Talk soon
> Chuck
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Herbie Allen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Amadeus Pro is a great app. A bit querky perhaps, but once you start 
>> practicing, you get used to how it works.
>> 
>>> On Aug 8, 2021, at 10:08, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> No I don't think so.
>>> I haven’t found any.
>>> /A
>>> 
 8 aug. 2021 kl. 16:10 skrev Frank Ventura >>> >:
 
 I would be interested in Twistedwave, are there any tutorials for it?
  
 thanks
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  >>> > On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
 Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 10:07 AM
 To: 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries >>> >
 Subject: Re: What audio editing apps work well on the Mac with Voiceover
  
 Hi!
 There is Amadeus Pro but its not very easy to use but works very well.
 Jonathan Mosen has made a daisy book on how to use the Amadeus Pro.
 There is also twisted wave which also is available for iOS.
 I was going to learn it but there has been so much things in the way.
 /A
 
 
 8 aug. 2021 kl. 04:40 skrev Frank Ventura >>> >:
  
 Hi all, can anyone recommend an easy to use audio editing program for the 
 Mac that works well with voice over? Also any tutorials would also be 
 appreciated. Thanks
  
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