Re: Rumble

[Raymond Foret Jr]

Yeah, I can play it on my phone also.  Their app is kind of okay but their 
search configuration on the app is real weird.  You actually have to turn voice 
over off to press the search button to get it to work.  The only place I can’t 
seem to play stuff from them is my Mac which is a mid 2009 mac and so it can’t 
support anything past ElCapitan.


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> On Jun 24, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> thanks Ray. I haven't tried reaching out to them. maybe I will but it doesn't 
> sound too encouraging. try playing those vids on your phone. I can do it with 
> the Rumble app and by just going to the link in Safari. all of that works 
> great but it would be more convenient to be able to play them on my Mac.
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:13 AM, Raymond Foret Jr > > wrote:
>> 
>> Honestly, it still gets me that way to from time to time.  I recently was 
>> sent a link to a video which, despite my best efforts, just would not play.  
>> I once contacted them about the issue but their response did not give me 
>> much reason for hope they were willing to look at it.  Perhaps the only 
>> thing is to keep trying to reach out to them and point out the problem.  
>> Some videos I can play but others will not.  
>> 
>> 
>> I will never apologize for my Whiteness, my Catholicism or my Southernness
>> 
>> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the 
>> blind:
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> The constantly barefooted Ray
>> 
>>> On Jun 23, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rumble is an alternative video site or platform. I watch a lot of videos up 
>>> there. when I asked about it before, Ray told me that he could play videos 
>>> on the Mac by reloading or more specifically, turning off styles in the 
>>> develop menu and reloading. this didn't work for me. I was able to get 
>>> somebody to look at my screen once and they said that you see the video 
>>> player until the link is fully loaded and then it's just an html page. I 
>>> have no idea why it would appear that way when vo is on but not to sighted 
>>> users who don't use vo. very occasionally I've been able to catch it at 
>>> just the right time and play the video but that doesn't happen most of the 
>>> time.
>>> 
>>> if I load the same thing on my iPhone I can play it because vo reads the 
>>> length of the video and if I tap on that the video player shows up. anybody 
>>> have any idea what's going on with this and if there's any way I can work 
>>> around it?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Mail Conversations

[Les Kriegler]

Hi All,
Until this morning, I was able to expand conversations with right arrow and 
close them with left arrow. For some reason, left and right arrows now move me 
to other messages when I try to expand a conversation. Is there a way to go 
back to default settings? If not, is there another way to resolve this 
behavior? Thanks.
Best Regards,

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Re: Mail Conversations

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

It sounds like you may have QuickNav turned on.  To toggle QuickNav on/off, 
press the left and right arrow keys at the same time.

Later…


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> On Jun 25, 2021, at 5:35 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> Until this morning, I was able to expand conversations with right arrow and 
> close them with left arrow. For some reason, left and right arrows now move 
> me to other messages when I try to expand a conversation. Is there a way to 
> go back to default settings? If not, is there another way to resolve this 
> behavior? Thanks.
> Best Regards,
> 
> Les
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Re: Mail Conversations

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Tim, That is exactly what happened. All is back to normal. Thanks.
Les

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:17 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> It sounds like you may have QuickNav turned on.  To toggle QuickNav on/off, 
> press the left and right arrow keys at the same time.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 5:35 AM, Les Kriegler > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> Until this morning, I was able to expand conversations with right arrow and 
>> close them with left arrow. For some reason, left and right arrows now move 
>> me to other messages when I try to expand a conversation. Is there a way to 
>> go back to default settings? If not, is there another way to resolve this 
>> behavior? Thanks.
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Les
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Re: Rumble

[Lorie McCloud]

I never used the search feature on the Rumble app. if something is recent I can 
just swipe right. till I get to: "Player Play." I subscribed to several 
channels so I get notifications in my email of when new videos are posted. I 
can go right to them on my phone but that's using Safari and not the app.

I think I'll shoot Rumble an email about accessibility. hopefully the more they 
get the more attention they should give to it.

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 3:13 AM, Raymond Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I can play it on my phone also.  Their app is kind of okay but their 
> search configuration on the app is real weird.  You actually have to turn 
> voice over off to press the search button to get it to work.  The only place 
> I can’t seem to play stuff from them is my Mac which is a mid 2009 mac and so 
> it can’t support anything past ElCapitan.
> 
> 
> I will never apologize for my Whiteness, my Catholicism or my Southernness
> 
> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> thanks Ray. I haven't tried reaching out to them. maybe I will but it 
>> doesn't sound too encouraging. try playing those vids on your phone. I can 
>> do it with the Rumble app and by just going to the link in Safari. all of 
>> that works great but it would be more convenient to be able to play them on 
>> my Mac.
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:13 AM, Raymond Foret Jr >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Honestly, it still gets me that way to from time to time.  I recently was 
>>> sent a link to a video which, despite my best efforts, just would not play. 
>>>  I once contacted them about the issue but their response did not give me 
>>> much reason for hope they were willing to look at it.  Perhaps the only 
>>> thing is to keep trying to reach out to them and point out the problem.  
>>> Some videos I can play but others will not.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will never apologize for my Whiteness, my Catholicism or my Southernness
>>> 
>>> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the 
>>> blind:
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> The constantly barefooted Ray
>>> 
 On Jun 23, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 Rumble is an alternative video site or platform. I watch a lot of videos 
 up there. when I asked about it before, Ray told me that he could play 
 videos on the Mac by reloading or more specifically, turning off styles in 
 the develop menu and reloading. this didn't work for me. I was able to get 
 somebody to look at my screen once and they said that you see the video 
 player until the link is fully loaded and then it's just an html page. I 
 have no idea why it would appear that way when vo is on but not to sighted 
 users who don't use vo. very occasionally I've been able to catch it at 
 just the right time and play the video but that doesn't happen most of the 
 time.
 
 if I load the same thing on my iPhone I can play it because vo reads the 
 length of the video and if I tap on that the video player shows up. 
 anybody have any idea what's going on with this and if there's any way I 
 can work around it?
 
 thanks.
 Lorie
 
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Re: Alexa on Mac.

['Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries]

This app has been discontinued. For those of us who already have it, it still 
works but who knows for how long.

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> On Jun 21, 2021, at 3:15 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> I do not find this app on the Mac App store nor am I finding any results with 
> general searches.
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 13:43, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Herbie there is an app called Reverb. I believe it was free. If not it's 
>> like $1.99.
>> 
>>> God bless.
>>> Matthew Dierckens,
>>> Certified assistive technology specialist
>>> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 14:30, Herbie Allen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Someone mentioned you can use Alexa on the mac. So far, I have not found an 
>>> easy way of doing this other than the browser. I lookied in the app store 
>>> and I see some thrid-party utilities that cost. Therefore, if you use Alexa 
>>> on the Mac, how do you access her?
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Re: mac os big sur: the voice over that stops anouncing every other time issue

[Muhammad Fayed]

Hi,

I don’t have such issue. I use Terminal and Safari and sometimes Reminders, and 
notes for my work. I almost don’t use TextEdit. Sometime I find it buggy and 
pages does the job almost all the tie with MS word documents specifically.

I don’t use Activities or different configurations for VoiceOver for different 
apps or something like that. I just made Alex suitable enough to handle both 
code reading and reading a new topic, … etc. I found the sweet spot where you 
don’t need to change much settings for me. 

I use late 2016 15” MBP with Mac OS 11.4.

I hope it may help someway in getting a solution. Notify me if I misunderstood 
or miss something.

Regards,

Mohamed E. Fayed 


> On 24 Jun 2021, at 2:10 AM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> Yes I experience the same thing. It seems as though the system sound which is 
> a legacy synth (the one that uses the say command line tool) and is somewhat 
> in a different channel from the voice over we use to navigate around. When 
> you look at various settings in the voice over utility, you'll see that we 
> can change voices depending on the type of interface element or state it is 
> in. I found that the more different settings are there, the slower the voice 
> over becomes, so there might be a default in which all instances of the 
> speech synth are declared on system launch, and the checks of what state vo 
> is in will introduce delays, and consequently these hangups, particularly 
> when we often switch windows or have shortcuts that do this quicker than say 
> a mouse clicker would.
> 
> If you slow down the navigation when voice over starts to act up, you will 
> notice that every item does get announced. So this is a function of the speed 
> at which we navigate. It's a rather critical bug to my opinion.
> 
> Yuma 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23 Jun 2021, at 9:51 pm, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Yuma,
>> 
>> I had/have a similar issue.  I discussed this with the accessibility team a 
>> month or more ago and submitted all kinds of data from my machine.  They 
>> said that what I submitted was useful and they were working on a fix.  This 
>> was a couple of updates ago, but nothing has been fixed yet.
>> 
>> In my case, it isn’t system announcements, rather it is just navigating 
>> around with Voiceover.  It happens to me, on average, every five - ten 
>> minutes when I’m really working at my computer.
>> 
>> I don’t know if this is because we are power users and are frequently 
>> jumping from Safari, to Textedit, to terminal and back again.
>> 
>> This only happens on my M1 machine running Big Sur.
>> 
>> So, I feel your pain but don’t have a solution for you yet—other than the 
>> turning Voiceover off and on hack.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I tried different approaches to getting rid of the issue where voice over 
>>> mutes every other announcement. For example, if I have 3 UI elements in an 
>>> app, only the first and third will announce correctly while navigating an 
>>> interface, or when in some text, only the odd or even line will announce.
>>> 
>>> The hot fix for now is to toggle voice over off and back on, but honestly 
>>> after a full day of doing this, it starts to get on my nerves, in a serious 
>>> way.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have this problem as well? It seems as though the OS's way of 
>>> dealing with multiple voices is just not up to par if you either a have an 
>>> english region such as australia or the UK, meaning the system voice 
>>> default is one voice, but your choice of another english voice conflicts 
>>> somewhat. or you have a system language other than english but use english 
>>> as well. In my case, I use Alex but the system default voice is the 
>>> australian rachel. I changed settings for the system voice to be alex, but 
>>> the system still takes both instances of alex as different voices, which 
>>> seems to introduce this issue.
>>> 
>>> I'd really like anyone on this list spending time on the beta to make a 
>>> request on this issue. I've stopped doing bug reports several years ago as 
>>> I just don't have the time to write these reports.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Yuma 
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