Quik Mantis question

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

I have a quick question re the Mantis. Does it give you the option for typing 
in Grade-2 braille, i.e. for turning a row of keys into a Perkins style 
keyboard? I sent this to the Mantis list, but never saw my message or any 
responses, so I’m posting here. Feel free to respond off-list, since this is 
only tangentially Apple related.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Quik Mantis question

[joseph hodge]

Hi Donna that’s weird because someone did respond I think it was Scott but you 
can type with the JKLFDS in the editor by pressing F12  to enter this mode but 
that’s only in local mode. If connecting to a host device the host device would 
have to support this feature!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 8:58 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a quick question re the Mantis. Does it give you the option for typing 
> in Grade-2 braille, i.e. for turning a row of keys into a Perkins style 
> keyboard? I sent this to the Mantis list, but never saw my message or any 
> responses, so I’m posting here. Feel free to respond off-list, since this is 
> only tangentially Apple related.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Quik Mantis question

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Joseph,

Thanks. I would only want to do it in local nmode, so that’s fine. Could you 
check on my subscription? I haven’t seen a single message from the list.
TIA,
Donna


Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 8:35 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna that’s weird because someone did respond I think it was Scott but 
> you can type with the JKLFDS in the editor by pressing F12  to enter this 
> mode but that’s only in local mode. If connecting to a host device the host 
> device would have to support this feature!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 8:58 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a quick question re the Mantis. Does it give you the option for 
>> typing in Grade-2 braille, i.e. for turning a row of keys into a Perkins 
>> style keyboard? I sent this to the Mantis list, but never saw my message or 
>> any responses, so I’m posting here. Feel free to respond off-list, since 
>> this is only tangentially Apple related.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Update to Orbit Writer

[Traci Duncan]

Hi Candy,

The thread I was talking about was on applevis.com Search for Orbit Writer and 
you should find it.

On the Windows side of things, Ive been using Narrator. It sounds like that 
complicates things further with Orbit Writer.

Traci


> On Aug 10, 2020, at 11:03 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> The Orbit Writer reminds me of the old Braille and Speak. I generally braille 
> on my lap which takes some getting used to for such a small keyboard. 
> Orientation requires dots 7 and 8 be in the correct position or turning on 
> the unit does not work. I've only had my unit for a few days, so I'm still in 
> the learning curve. It works well with one device paired, I haven't been able 
> to pair with a second device, so I'm awaiting the update before trying again.
> Best Regards,
> 
> Les
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:20 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Update to Orbit Writer
> 
> Hi! A question to you who has the orbit writer. How is the device to type on 
> and how does it look? I am thinking of buying it because I would love to have 
> some thing to type on that small enough to fit in my pocket and not a normal 
> keyboard. My fingers are quite big so extremely small keyboards make me go 
> Blessings from Sweden mad. 
>> 10 aug. 2020 kl. 23:24 skrev Les Kriegler :
>> 
>> Hi Traci,
>> Well, I had a conversation with a representative from Orbit Research who 
>> told me the same thing you were told about an update coming soon. Right now, 
>> I have my iPhone working fairly consistently. If I power off the Orbit when 
>> I've completed my session with my phone, the next time I start IT SEEMS TO 
>> CONNECT REGULARLY NOW. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PAIR WITH A SECOND DEVICE AND 
>> WON'T TRY AT THIS point. When I have switched channels, the iPhone channel 
>> has to be set up and paired. It's a new product and since I wanted to use 
>> this primarily with my iPhone, I will keep the device and see what happens.
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Les
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:09 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; viph...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Update to Orbit Writer
>> 
>> So a few things here. I’m following the thread on AppleVis and saw that 
>> Orbit Research posted.
>> 
>> I have sent an email to tech support like they requested and laid out my 
>> issues and concerns.
>> 
>> Orbit contacted me and asked questions about my steps for pairing the Orbit 
>> Writer to my devices. It seems as if I am following the instructions 
>> correctly. Orbit tech support said an update is coming soon. 
>> 
>> The thing is my 30 day window for return is drawing close. If the update 
>> isn’t here by say next Tuesday, I’ll have a decision to make.
>> 
>> My other concern is updates can only be done via Windows. I have been 
>> reacquainting myself with the Windows environment, but I am not as 
>> proficient as I use to be. 
>> 
>> What are other users thoughts? How about those of you that are more familiar 
>> with Orbit Research?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Traci
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Re: airdrop

[Pete De Vasto]

Hi Lorie,

Airdrop  uses Bluetooth to do its thing, so bluetooth has to be enabled on both 
your Mac and your iPhone. Go to Finder. Then, press Command+Shift+R, and this 
will open the Airdrop window. VO to the bottom where it says “allow me to be 
discovered by”. There’s a popup with choices of No one, Contacts or everyone. 
Once you make that choice, your Mac can be seen by other devices close to it, 
like your iPhone. So, if you wanted to, say, send a photo to your Mac from your 
iPhone, you find the photo in question, open it, and then VO to the Share 
button and double tap it. One of the share options will be Airdrop. When you 
double-tap Airdrop, your Mac should come up on the list of devices. Double tap 
on the Mac, and your Mac will give you an alert saying that it’s waiting to 
receive something from your iPhone. You indicate where you want the photo to 
go, I usually put them into my Downloads folder, accept the request, and it 
will be transferred. I hope I’ve not missed anything, but hopefully this will 
at least point you in the right direction.

Pete De Vasto

> On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> how do you prepare your Mac to receive airdrop from say, your phone? also, 
> how do you use your Mac to send something via airdrop?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Update to Orbit Writer

[Scott Davert]

Hi Peggy.
It could be done with Narrator on Windows I expect, though I've never
run an update with Nerrorator to try an update from Orbit Research. If
your husband's computer is running Windows 10, Nerrorator does a
decent job for things like this most of the time. You can bring up
Nerrorator by pressing the Windows control, and Enter keys together.
If on an older OS, you can still try Narrator if you want, but the
command is windows with U. That said, this is Mac Visionaries, not
Windows Visionaries, so I'll leave it at that. :)

Scott

On 8/11/20, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> Hi Candy,
>
> The thread I was talking about was on applevis.com Search for Orbit Writer
> and you should find it.
>
> On the Windows side of things, Ive been using Narrator. It sounds like that
> complicates things further with Orbit Writer.
>
> Traci
>
>
>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 11:03 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>>
>> The Orbit Writer reminds me of the old Braille and Speak. I generally
>> braille on my lap which takes some getting used to for such a small
>> keyboard. Orientation requires dots 7 and 8 be in the correct position or
>> turning on the unit does not work. I've only had my unit for a few days,
>> so I'm still in the learning curve. It works well with one device paired,
>> I haven't been able to pair with a second device, so I'm awaiting the
>> update before trying again.
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Les
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
>> Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:20 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Update to Orbit Writer
>>
>> Hi! A question to you who has the orbit writer. How is the device to type
>> on and how does it look? I am thinking of buying it because I would love
>> to have some thing to type on that small enough to fit in my pocket and
>> not a normal keyboard. My fingers are quite big so extremely small
>> keyboards make me go Blessings from Sweden mad.
>>> 10 aug. 2020 kl. 23:24 skrev Les Kriegler :
>>>
>>> Hi Traci,
>>> Well, I had a conversation with a representative from Orbit Research who
>>> told me the same thing you were told about an update coming soon. Right
>>> now, I have my iPhone working fairly consistently. If I power off the
>>> Orbit when I've completed my session with my phone, the next time I start
>>> IT SEEMS TO CONNECT REGULARLY NOW. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PAIR WITH A
>>> SECOND DEVICE AND WON'T TRY AT THIS point. When I have switched channels,
>>> the iPhone channel has to be set up and paired. It's a new product and
>>> since I wanted to use this primarily with my iPhone, I will keep the
>>> device and see what happens.
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Les
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:09 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; viph...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Update to Orbit Writer
>>>
>>> So a few things here. I’m following the thread on AppleVis and saw that
>>> Orbit Research posted.
>>>
>>> I have sent an email to tech support like they requested and laid out my
>>> issues and concerns.
>>>
>>> Orbit contacted me and asked questions about my steps for pairing the
>>> Orbit Writer to my devices. It seems as if I am following the
>>> instructions correctly. Orbit tech support said an update is coming soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> The thing is my 30 day window for return is drawing close. If the update
>>> isn’t here by say next Tuesday, I’ll have a decision to make.
>>>
>>> My other concern is updates can only be done via Windows. I have been
>>> reacquainting myself with the Windows environment, but I am not as
>>> proficient as I use to be.
>>>
>>> What are other users thoughts? How about those of you that are more
>>> familiar with Orbit Research?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Traci
>>>
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Mac connected to Amazon Echo

[Traci Duncan]

Wow! I just connected my Mac via bluetooth to Amazon Echo!

*Claps hands with excitement!

An excellent way for me to play my music library with no Voiceover 
interference. Although, I need to mute system sounds. ;) 

Traci

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RE: Mantis Q40?

[Frank Ventura]

Hi Joe, is there a support e-mail listserv for the manthis and cameleon? If so 
what is the subscribe link?
Thanks
Frank

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of joseph hodge
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 6:34 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mantis Q40?

Hi my name is Joe and I work at APH in quality assurance. To answer your 
question no the Orbit writer won’t connect the same way. The reason the Mantis 
does and also our Chameleon does is the new hid standard. Thats the standard 
Microsoft apple and others worked on. Its still new and I believe currently 
were the only one supporting this. I believe the Orbit does on the Mac but not 
on the iPhone currently. If I can help in any other way please let me know.


On Aug 5, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Traci,
Thanks for the link to the YouTube video. It was interesting that the iPhone 
was paired with going to Bluetooth settings and not going into VoiceOver and 
Braille settings. I know it’s not documented in the manual, but I do wonder if 
that would allow the Orbit Writer as a keyboard to connect? The Mantis is a 
keyboard, but of course, it’s a Qwerty, so I don’t know if that makes a 
difference. I’m awaiting my unit, so when the Writer comes, I’ll certainly try 
to connect a second device and report back.
Best Regards,

Les

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 4:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mantis Q40?

Folks interested in the Mantis may like to watch this youTube video by APH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mdZMEGOZqk

Traci




On Aug 5, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Donna,
I have not use this display, but if you are interested, there is a mailing list 
dedicated to both it and the Chamaeleon, the 20cell variant that has a braille 
keyboard rather than a quirky one. You can also see the manual on the APH 
mantis dedicated page. If you’re interested in the email list, info on that is 
also on the APH page. There is active tech support there. like you, I have 
heard very bad things about the orbit reader Forty, and I don’t think it’s even 
out yet. But one of the folks who has been a distributor for them said this 
thing is not ready for prime time at a recent blindness convention.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 5, 2020, at 12:10 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Has anyone tried this display with either Mac or IOS? Seems new. It's sold by 
APH, but seems to have some affiliation with Humanware as well.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Mac connected to Amazon Echo

[Lorie McCloud]

hmmm. I'm going to have to try that.

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:00 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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Re: airdrop

[Lorie McCloud]

in the choice of noone, everyone or contacts only, which do you choose? I found 
something that said "me" and "Device List" but I couldn't actually find a 
device list.

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
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> Hi Lorie,
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> Airdrop  uses Bluetooth to do its thing, so bluetooth has to be enabled on 
> both your Mac and your iPhone. Go to Finder. Then, press Command+Shift+R, and 
> this will open the Airdrop window. VO to the bottom where it says “allow me 
> to be discovered by”. There’s a popup with choices of No one, Contacts or 
> everyone. Once you make that choice, your Mac can be seen by other devices 
> close to it, like your iPhone. So, if you wanted to, say, send a photo to 
> your Mac from your iPhone, you find the photo in question, open it, and then 
> VO to the Share button and double tap it. One of the share options will be 
> Airdrop. When you double-tap Airdrop, your Mac should come up on the list of 
> devices. Double tap on the Mac, and your Mac will give you an alert saying 
> that it’s waiting to receive something from your iPhone. You indicate where 
> you want the photo to go, I usually put them into my Downloads folder, accept 
> the request, and it will be transferred. I hope I’ve not missed anything, but 
> hopefully this will at least point you in the right direction.
> 
> Pete De Vasto
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>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> how do you prepare your Mac to receive airdrop from say, your phone? also, 
>> how do you use your Mac to send something via airdrop?
>> 
>> thanks.
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Re: airdrop

[Pete De Vasto]

I would choose everyone for starters. If you do Contacts, that would restrict 
access to only people in your Contacts. Once you choose Everyone, you should 
see your phone in the device list. Also, you’ll have to make sure Airdrop is 
available on your iPhone. Go to Settings > General > Airdrop, and make sure 
that Everyone is selected there as well. Sorry to have missed that.

Pete

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> in the choice of noone, everyone or contacts only, which do you choose? I 
> found something that said "me" and "Device List" but I couldn't actually find 
> a device list.
> 
>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Lorie,
>> 
>> Airdrop  uses Bluetooth to do its thing, so bluetooth has to be enabled on 
>> both your Mac and your iPhone. Go to Finder. Then, press Command+Shift+R, 
>> and this will open the Airdrop window. VO to the bottom where it says “allow 
>> me to be discovered by”. There’s a popup with choices of No one, Contacts or 
>> everyone. Once you make that choice, your Mac can be seen by other devices 
>> close to it, like your iPhone. So, if you wanted to, say, send a photo to 
>> your Mac from your iPhone, you find the photo in question, open it, and then 
>> VO to the Share button and double tap it. One of the share options will be 
>> Airdrop. When you double-tap Airdrop, your Mac should come up on the list of 
>> devices. Double tap on the Mac, and your Mac will give you an alert saying 
>> that it’s waiting to receive something from your iPhone. You indicate where 
>> you want the photo to go, I usually put them into my Downloads folder, 
>> accept the request, and it will be transferred. I hope I’ve not missed 
>> anything, but hopefully this will at least point you in the right direction.
>> 
>> Pete De Vasto
>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>>> how do you prepare your Mac to receive airdrop from say, your phone? also, 
>>> how do you use your Mac to send something via airdrop?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
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Re: Mac connected to Amazon Echo

[Jessica Moss]

This may sound like a stupid question, but when connecting your echo dot to 
your computer, do you in turn lose Alexa’s features, or are those still 
available to you?

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> hmmm. I'm going to have to try that.
> 
>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:00 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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>> An excellent way for me to play my music library with no Voiceover 
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Re: Quik Mantis question

[joseph hodge]

Hi Donna I just got your message now you are subscribed I also saw you wrote a 
message to that list Dan responded do you see that?

Sent from my iPhone

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> Thanks. I would only want to do it in local nmode, so that’s fine. Could you 
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> TIA,
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>> device would have to support this feature!
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>>> Cheers,
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Re: Quik Mantis question

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

No. I don't see the message I sent, or any responses. And they're not going to 
my junk folder, I've checked.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Aug 11, 2020, at 5:25 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Hi Joseph,
>> 
>> Thanks. I would only want to do it in local nmode, so that’s fine. Could you 
>> check on my subscription? I haven’t seen a single message from the list.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 8:35 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna that’s weird because someone did respond I think it was Scott but 
>>> you can type with the JKLFDS in the editor by pressing F12  to enter this 
>>> mode but that’s only in local mode. If connecting to a host device the host 
>>> device would have to support this feature!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Aug 11, 2020, at 8:58 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have a quick question re the Mantis. Does it give you the option for 
 typing in Grade-2 braille, i.e. for turning a row of keys into a Perkins 
 style keyboard? I sent this to the Mantis list, but never saw my message 
 or any responses, so I’m posting here. Feel free to respond off-list, 
 since this is only tangentially Apple related.
 Cheers,
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Re: Mac connected to Amazon Echo

[Traci Duncan]

I didn't actually talk to alexa while connected, but I'm assuming she's 
available. My Mac is only connected like any other Bluetooth device. 

HTH, 
Traci 

Sent from my iPhone

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>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> hmmm. I'm going to have to try that.
>> 
 On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:00 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow! I just connected my Mac via bluetooth to Amazon Echo!
>>> 
>>> *Claps hands with excitement!
>>> 
>>> An excellent way for me to play my music library with no Voiceover 
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external hard drive

[Lorie McCloud]

I have a 2tb external hard drive connected to my Mac with a wire. last night I 
got a notification that it hadn't been ejected properly. it was still running 
so I checked all the connections and they're solid. my Mac doesn't see it any 
more. what might that mean? is the drive not functioning properly or could 
there be another reason for this?

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Quik Mantis question

[joseph hodge]

I’ll talk to our list administrator tomorrow and get back with you that’s super 
strange! You don’t happen to have along with a junk folder like a spam folder 
or something else it could be going into do you? I’ll get back with you 
tomorrow sometime!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 7:39 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> No. I don't see the message I sent, or any responses. And they're not going 
> to my junk folder, I've checked.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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> 
>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 5:25 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
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>> Hi Donna I just got your message now you are subscribed I also saw you wrote 
>> a message to that list Dan responded do you see that?
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Aug 11, 2020, at 9:46 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
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>>> Hi Joseph,
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>>> Thanks. I would only want to do it in local nmode, so that’s fine. Could 
>>> you check on my subscription? I haven’t seen a single message from the list.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On Aug 11, 2020, at 8:35 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
 
 Hi Donna that’s weird because someone did respond I think it was Scott 
 but you can type with the JKLFDS in the editor by pressing F12  to enter 
 this mode but that’s only in local mode. If connecting to a host device 
 the host device would have to support this feature!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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> Hi all,
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> I have a quick question re the Mantis. Does it give you the option for 
> typing in Grade-2 braille, i.e. for turning a row of keys into a Perkins 
> style keyboard? I sent this to the Mantis list, but never saw my message 
> or any responses, so I’m posting here. Feel free to respond off-list, 
> since this is only tangentially Apple related.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Update to Orbit Writer

[Anders Holmberg]

I haven't seen any braille and speak. We didn't have that device here in Sweden
> 11 aug. 2020 kl. 08:03 skrev Les Kriegler :
> 
> The Orbit Writer reminds me of the old Braille and Speak. I generally 
> braille on my lap which takes some getting used to for such a small keyboard. 
> Orientation requires dots 7 and 8 be in the correct position or turning on 
> the unit does not work. I've only had my unit for a few days, so I'm still in 
> the learning curve. It works well with one device paired, I haven't been able 
> to pair with a second device, so I'm awaiting the update before trying again.
> Best Regards,
> 
> Les
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> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:20 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Update to Orbit Writer
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> Hi! A question to you who has the orbit writer. How is the device to type on 
> and how does it look? I am thinking of buying it because I would love to have 
> some thing to type on that small enough to fit in my pocket and not a normal 
> keyboard. My fingers are quite big so extremely small keyboards make me go 
> Blessings from Sweden mad. 
>> 10 aug. 2020 kl. 23:24 skrev Les Kriegler :
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>> Hi Traci,
>> Well, I had a conversation with a representative from Orbit Research who 
>> told me the same thing you were told about an update coming soon. Right now, 
>> I have my iPhone working fairly consistently. If I power off the Orbit when 
>> I've completed my session with my phone, the next time I start IT SEEMS TO 
>> CONNECT REGULARLY NOW. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PAIR WITH A SECOND DEVICE AND 
>> WON'T TRY AT THIS point. When I have switched channels, the iPhone channel 
>> has to be set up and paired. It's a new product and since I wanted to use 
>> this primarily with my iPhone, I will keep the device and see what happens.
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Les
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:09 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; viph...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Update to Orbit Writer
>> 
>> So a few things here. I’m following the thread on AppleVis and saw that 
>> Orbit Research posted.
>> 
>> I have sent an email to tech support like they requested and laid out my 
>> issues and concerns.
>> 
>> Orbit contacted me and asked questions about my steps for pairing the Orbit 
>> Writer to my devices. It seems as if I am following the instructions 
>> correctly. Orbit tech support said an update is coming soon. 
>> 
>> The thing is my 30 day window for return is drawing close. If the update 
>> isn’t here by say next Tuesday, I’ll have a decision to make.
>> 
>> My other concern is updates can only be done via Windows. I have been 
>> reacquainting myself with the Windows environment, but I am not as 
>> proficient as I use to be. 
>> 
>> What are other users thoughts? How about those of you that are more familiar 
>> with Orbit Research?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Traci
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