RE: A big Apple Watch problem, is it possible to fix this or should I just bite the bullet and retire the watch.

[Simon A Fogarty]

So the watch isn't sync'ed with your phone?


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of maurice mines
Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 9:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: A big Apple Watch problem, is it possible to fix this or should I just 
bite the bullet and retire the watch.

Hello  everyone on the list, here’s the situation I have an Apple Watch series 
3 that I kept after I upgraded to a series of five. Because of everything it’s 
going on my sisters watch is now dying. So I figured I would just erase my 
watch and give it to my sister. Apparently not so fast. Number one the Series 
III has been sitting in a drawer for six months so I unfortunately could not 
remember the passcode. Then while trying to get this fixed, they watch tells me 
that too many attempts please reset and repair. Unfortunately VoiceOver was 
running so when this potential fix froze there apparently is an alternative 
method to accomplish this. The way was explained to me one holds the crown 
down, and the button that’s just underneath the crown on the right side forcing 
the watch to essentially reboot. Then it is apparently able to hold that same 
bottom button down and Shut down then Meares button apparently should appear. 
After spending an hour on the phone with Apple today, and having my cited knees 
help me, it was determined that the watch was defective. Because the screen is 
frozen, and VoiceOver can’t be turned off, sold us the watch cannot be reset. 
That has to be sent back to Apple. But because the watch is out of warranty 
it’s gonna cost a bundle to fix this. Any suggestions? Or is this really the 
end of the road for this device.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.

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RE: zoom app

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah someone else made the same comment,

Try
www.zoom.us/downloads



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 10:48 AM
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Subject: Re: zoom app

 Simon,
Nope, it’s not in the Mac App Store.


On 23/04/2020, at 18:23, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Shirley,

It should be available from the mac app store,

From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>On
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Sent: Thursday, 23 April 2020 10:23 AM
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Subject: zoom app

where can i get the zoom app for my mac?
how do I download it?
do I need to go to a third party site to do it?
and if so how do I go about installing it?
shirley
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RE: Native News app?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi petrus,

If you make the region for the phone USA then you can get the app

But why would we do that.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 11:08 AM
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Subject: Re: Native News app?

I wish I did, but that is the joy of living in NZ. I’ve been told that if we 
set up another Apple ID account from another country we can get it but don’t 
think I can be bothered with that.


On 24/04/2020, at 07:47, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,

Yes it is.  It is in the Applications folder by default.

Later…


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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On Apr 23, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Traci Duncan 
mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi everyone,

You know the native news app on iOS? Is it available on the Mac?

Thanks,
Traci


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RE: Native News app?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

Yeah the same here that if you make the region USA or I guess Canada then the 
news app will show up.

From: 'Tim J Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 11:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Native News app?

Hi Petrus,

Sometimes, you can just change your locale and it will show up.  I was able to 
do that on my iPad and iPhone for a bit when the News app was available in the 
US, but not here in Canada.  It is available here now, so I can stick with 
Canadian content.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On Apr 23, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I wish I did, but that is the joy of living in NZ. I’ve been told that if we 
set up another Apple ID account from another country we can get it but don’t 
think I can be bothered with that.


On 24/04/2020, at 07:47, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Yes it is.  It is in the Applications folder by default.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


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mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi everyone,

You know the native news app on iOS? Is it available on the Mac?

Thanks,
Traci


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Re: A big Apple Watch problem, is it possible to fix this or should I just bite the bullet and retire the watch.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Depends what you’re willing to do yourself.
I don’t know the cost so i can’t say if its worth it or not but since its an 
apple watch series 3 i wont repair it.
/A

> 23 apr. 2020 kl. 23:06 skrev maurice mines :
> 
> Hello  everyone on the list, here’s the situation I have an Apple Watch 
> series 3 that I kept after I upgraded to a series of five. Because of 
> everything it’s going on my sisters watch is now dying. So I figured I would 
> just erase my watch and give it to my sister. Apparently not so fast. Number 
> one the Series III has been sitting in a drawer for six months so I 
> unfortunately could not remember the passcode. Then while trying to get this 
> fixed, they watch tells me that too many attempts please reset and repair. 
> Unfortunately VoiceOver was running so when this potential fix froze there 
> apparently is an alternative method to accomplish this. The way was explained 
> to me one holds the crown down, and the button that’s just underneath the 
> crown on the right side forcing the watch to essentially reboot. Then it is 
> apparently able to hold that same bottom button down and Shut down then 
> Meares button apparently should appear. After spending an hour on the phone 
> with Apple today, and having my cited knees help me, it was determined that 
> the watch was defective. Because the screen is frozen, and VoiceOver can’t be 
> turned off, sold us the watch cannot be reset. That has to be sent back to 
> Apple. But because the watch is out of warranty it’s gonna cost a bundle to 
> fix this. Any suggestions? Or is this really the end of the road for this 
> device.
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
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New display, new buttons.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I’ve got a Vario 340 today and since i haven’t played a lot with the VoiceOver 
utility to change keystrokes for some common things i am a bit stunned.
For you who know the VarioUltra and other Baum products they have 3 keys to the 
left and 3 to the right.
They’re called d1 to d6 for you who might not know that.
Now when i want to assign a command to the d2 and d5 buttons i can’t do that in 
the VoiceOver utility because they don’t appear there.
This can’t be a normal behaviour as they seem to be registered somewhere in the 
system because when i press them i hear a small ding from my mac which 
indicates that they work but has not been assigned to any command.
I have contacted apple accessibility about it but i doubt it will be of any 
effect in the near future.
Apart from that the display is really nice and has nice dots.
/A

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Re: New display, new buttons.

[Pete De Vasto]

Andres,

D2 and D5 are used to pan the display back and forth, so you won’t find them 
listed in the VO Utility. Also, I’m pretty sure that most of the commands 
involving the space keys will work the same as on other displays. I have a 
VarioUltra 20, and the space commands work fine. I’m not familiar with the 340, 
how many Braille cells does it have? Just curious. Let me know if you have any 
other questions. I’ve only had my Ultra for about two months, but I do love it.

Pete De Vasto

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I’ve got a Vario 340 today and since i haven’t played a lot with the 
> VoiceOver utility to change keystrokes for some common things i am a bit 
> stunned.
> For you who know the VarioUltra and other Baum products they have 3 keys to 
> the left and 3 to the right.
> They’re called d1 to d6 for you who might not know that.
> Now when i want to assign a command to the d2 and d5 buttons i can’t do that 
> in the VoiceOver utility because they don’t appear there.
> This can’t be a normal behaviour as they seem to be registered somewhere in 
> the system because when i press them i hear a small ding from my mac which 
> indicates that they work but has not been assigned to any command.
> I have contacted apple accessibility about it but i doubt it will be of any 
> effect in the near future.
> Apart from that the display is really nice and has nice dots.
> /A
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Re: New display, new buttons.

[Pete De Vasto]

Hi again, Anders,

To demo how D2 and D5 work, start at the beginning of this reply and start 
reading exclusively in Braille. You’ll find that D2 will move right one display 
with, and D5 will go the other way. These keys also behave the same when 
reading documents or stuff on the web.

/P

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I’ve got a Vario 340 today and since i haven’t played a lot with the 
> VoiceOver utility to change keystrokes for some common things i am a bit 
> stunned.
> For you who know the VarioUltra and other Baum products they have 3 keys to 
> the left and 3 to the right.
> They’re called d1 to d6 for you who might not know that.
> Now when i want to assign a command to the d2 and d5 buttons i can’t do that 
> in the VoiceOver utility because they don’t appear there.
> This can’t be a normal behaviour as they seem to be registered somewhere in 
> the system because when i press them i hear a small ding from my mac which 
> indicates that they work but has not been assigned to any command.
> I have contacted apple accessibility about it but i doubt it will be of any 
> effect in the near future.
> Apart from that the display is really nice and has nice dots.
> /A
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Re: A big Apple Watch problem, is it possible to fix this or should I just bite the bullet and retire the watch.

[maurice mines]

Know the watch is not St. but my current phone. It was synced with the old 
phone. Does this make a difference?

Sincerely Maurice Mines.

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 00:30, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> So the watch isn't sync'ed with your phone?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of maurice mines
> Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 9:06 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A big Apple Watch problem, is it possible to fix this or should I 
> just bite the bullet and retire the watch.
> 
> Hello  everyone on the list, here’s the situation I have an Apple Watch 
> series 3 that I kept after I upgraded to a series of five. Because of 
> everything it’s going on my sisters watch is now dying. So I figured I would 
> just erase my watch and give it to my sister. Apparently not so fast. Number 
> one the Series III has been sitting in a drawer for six months so I 
> unfortunately could not remember the passcode. Then while trying to get this 
> fixed, they watch tells me that too many attempts please reset and repair. 
> Unfortunately VoiceOver was running so when this potential fix froze there 
> apparently is an alternative method to accomplish this. The way was explained 
> to me one holds the crown down, and the button that’s just underneath the 
> crown on the right side forcing the watch to essentially reboot. Then it is 
> apparently able to hold that same bottom button down and Shut down then 
> Meares button apparently should appear. After spending an hour on the phone 
> with Apple today, and having my cited knees help me, it was determined that 
> the watch was defective. Because the screen is frozen, and VoiceOver can’t be 
> turned off, sold us the watch cannot be reset. That has to be sent back to 
> Apple. But because the watch is out of warranty it’s gonna cost a bundle to 
> fix this. Any suggestions? Or is this really the end of the road for this 
> device.
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
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Re: A big Apple Watch problem, is it possible to fix this or should I just bite the bullet and retire the watch.

[Brad Snyder]

I don’t understand why you just didn’t unpair the watch from your iPhone.  That 
would have wiped the watch and it would have been ready to pair with someone 
else’s iPhone.

- Brad -




On Apr 24, 2020, at 12:52, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Depends what you’re willing to do yourself.
I don’t know the cost so i can’t say if its worth it or not but since its an 
apple watch series 3 i wont repair it.
/A

> 23 apr. 2020 kl. 23:06 skrev maurice mines :
> 
> Hello  everyone on the list, here’s the situation I have an Apple Watch 
> series 3 that I kept after I upgraded to a series of five. Because of 
> everything it’s going on my sisters watch is now dying. So I figured I would 
> just erase my watch and give it to my sister. Apparently not so fast. Number 
> one the Series III has been sitting in a drawer for six months so I 
> unfortunately could not remember the passcode. Then while trying to get this 
> fixed, they watch tells me that too many attempts please reset and repair. 
> Unfortunately VoiceOver was running so when this potential fix froze there 
> apparently is an alternative method to accomplish this. The way was explained 
> to me one holds the crown down, and the button that’s just underneath the 
> crown on the right side forcing the watch to essentially reboot. Then it is 
> apparently able to hold that same bottom button down and Shut down then 
> Meares button apparently should appear. After spending an hour on the phone 
> with Apple today, and having my cited knees help me, it was determined that 
> the watch was defective. Because the screen is frozen, and VoiceOver can’t be 
> turned off, sold us the watch cannot be reset. That has to be sent back to 
> Apple. But because the watch is out of warranty it’s gonna cost a bundle to 
> fix this. Any suggestions? Or is this really the end of the road for this 
> device.
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
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Re: A big Apple Watch problem, is it possible to fix this or should I just bite the bullet and retire the watch.

[maurice mines]

This watch was taken out of service six months ago. Under the heading of I know 
what’s best for you disabled person the person who was uncaring the watch did 
not follow my instructions. Let’s just chalk it up to ignorance about 
capabilities of the blind I know that’s probably off-topic here but that’s 
basically what happened somebody thought they knew better than me what was 
appropriate. Hence the problem so it’s absolutely not about should I have just 
unimpaired it from the phone. The watch was erased and then rebuilt but the 
salesperson who was helping me set up the new watch didn’t bother to listen to 
my instructions. That’s the bottom line.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:39, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
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> I don’t understand why you just didn’t unpair the watch from your iPhone.  
> That would have wiped the watch and it would have been ready to pair with 
> someone else’s iPhone.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 24, 2020, at 12:52, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Depends what you’re willing to do yourself.
> I don’t know the cost so i can’t say if its worth it or not but since its an 
> apple watch series 3 i wont repair it.
> /A
> 
>> 23 apr. 2020 kl. 23:06 skrev maurice mines > >:
>> 
>> Hello  everyone on the list, here’s the situation I have an Apple Watch 
>> series 3 that I kept after I upgraded to a series of five. Because of 
>> everything it’s going on my sisters watch is now dying. So I figured I would 
>> just erase my watch and give it to my sister. Apparently not so fast. Number 
>> one the Series III has been sitting in a drawer for six months so I 
>> unfortunately could not remember the passcode. Then while trying to get this 
>> fixed, they watch tells me that too many attempts please reset and repair. 
>> Unfortunately VoiceOver was running so when this potential fix froze there 
>> apparently is an alternative method to accomplish this. The way was 
>> explained to me one holds the crown down, and the button that’s just 
>> underneath the crown on the right side forcing the watch to essentially 
>> reboot. Then it is apparently able to hold that same bottom button down and 
>> Shut down then Meares button apparently should appear. After spending an 
>> hour on the phone with Apple today, and having my cited knees help me, it 
>> was determined that the watch was defective. Because the screen is frozen, 
>> and VoiceOver can’t be turned off, sold us the watch cannot be reset. That 
>> has to be sent back to Apple. But because the watch is out of warranty it’s 
>> gonna cost a bundle to fix this. Any suggestions? Or is this really the end 
>> of the road for this device.
>> 
>> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
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Re: A big Apple Watch problem, is it possible to fix this or should I just bite the bullet and retire the watch.

[Brad Snyder]

Yes, it makes a big difference.
If you still have the old iPhone, then you could have unpaired the watch.
I think your only option now is to send it into Apple service to get the watch 
reset.  I’m not sure what that will cost, and it is up to you to decide if it 
is worth it.

- Brad -




On Apr 24, 2020, at 13:31, maurice mines  wrote:

Know the watch is not St. but my current phone. It was synced with the old 
phone. Does this make a difference?

Sincerely Maurice Mines.

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 00:30, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> So the watch isn't sync'ed with your phone?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of maurice mines
> Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 9:06 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A big Apple Watch problem, is it possible to fix this or should I 
> just bite the bullet and retire the watch.
> 
> Hello  everyone on the list, here’s the situation I have an Apple Watch 
> series 3 that I kept after I upgraded to a series of five. Because of 
> everything it’s going on my sisters watch is now dying. So I figured I would 
> just erase my watch and give it to my sister. Apparently not so fast. Number 
> one the Series III has been sitting in a drawer for six months so I 
> unfortunately could not remember the passcode. Then while trying to get this 
> fixed, they watch tells me that too many attempts please reset and repair. 
> Unfortunately VoiceOver was running so when this potential fix froze there 
> apparently is an alternative method to accomplish this. The way was explained 
> to me one holds the crown down, and the button that’s just underneath the 
> crown on the right side forcing the watch to essentially reboot. Then it is 
> apparently able to hold that same bottom button down and Shut down then 
> Meares button apparently should appear. After spending an hour on the phone 
> with Apple today, and having my cited knees help me, it was determined that 
> the watch was defective. Because the screen is frozen, and VoiceOver can’t be 
> turned off, sold us the watch cannot be reset. That has to be sent back to 
> Apple. But because the watch is out of warranty it’s gonna cost a bundle to 
> fix this. Any suggestions? Or is this really the end of the road for this 
> device.
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
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Re: A big Apple Watch problem, is it possible to fix this or should I just bite the bullet and retire the watch.

[maurice mines]

 Unfortunately, the cost is roughly 230 US to get this fixed. So the cost is 
quite high. Since it is out of warranty. Unfortunately it’s 200 to justify a 
new series 3. So it’s a tossup. That’s where the situation is now.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:49, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> Yes, it makes a big difference.
> If you still have the old iPhone, then you could have unpaired the watch.
> I think your only option now is to send it into Apple service to get the 
> watch reset.  I’m not sure what that will cost, and it is up to you to decide 
> if it is worth it.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 24, 2020, at 13:31, maurice mines  > wrote:
> 
> Know the watch is not St. but my current phone. It was synced with the old 
> phone. Does this make a difference?
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 00:30, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> So the watch isn't sync'ed with your phone?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > > On Behalf Of maurice mines
>> Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 9:06 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: A big Apple Watch problem, is it possible to fix this or should I 
>> just bite the bullet and retire the watch.
>> 
>> Hello  everyone on the list, here’s the situation I have an Apple Watch 
>> series 3 that I kept after I upgraded to a series of five. Because of 
>> everything it’s going on my sisters watch is now dying. So I figured I would 
>> just erase my watch and give it to my sister. Apparently not so fast. Number 
>> one the Series III has been sitting in a drawer for six months so I 
>> unfortunately could not remember the passcode. Then while trying to get this 
>> fixed, they watch tells me that too many attempts please reset and repair. 
>> Unfortunately VoiceOver was running so when this potential fix froze there 
>> apparently is an alternative method to accomplish this. The way was 
>> explained to me one holds the crown down, and the button that’s just 
>> underneath the crown on the right side forcing the watch to essentially 
>> reboot. Then it is apparently able to hold that same bottom button down and 
>> Shut down then Meares button apparently should appear. After spending an 
>> hour on the phone with Apple today, and having my cited knees help me, it 
>> was determined that the watch was defective. Because the screen is frozen, 
>> and VoiceOver can’t be turned off, sold us the watch cannot be reset. That 
>> has to be sent back to Apple. But because the watch is out of warranty it’s 
>> gonna cost a bundle to fix this. Any suggestions? Or is this really the end 
>> of the road for this device.
>> 
>> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
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Re: New display, new buttons.

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Anders,

Pete is correct, the standard chord-commands do work. I strongly recommend that 
you spend a lot of time with the Manual for this display. It's a great display, 
but it's a bit complicated to learn.

To the left of the spacebar, going from left to right, you will find the 
following keys: S1 S2 B9. To the right, again going from left to right, you'll 
find: B0, S3, and S4.

Best,
Donna

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Andres,
> 
> D2 and D5 are used to pan the display back and forth, so you won’t find them 
> listed in the VO Utility. Also, I’m pretty sure that most of the commands 
> involving the space keys will work the same as on other displays. I have a 
> VarioUltra 20, and the space commands work fine. I’m not familiar with the 
> 340, how many Braille cells does it have? Just curious. Let me know if you 
> have any other questions. I’ve only had my Ultra for about two months, but I 
> do love it.
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I’ve got a Vario 340 today and since i haven’t played a lot with the 
>> VoiceOver utility to change keystrokes for some common things i am a bit 
>> stunned.
>> For you who know the VarioUltra and other Baum products they have 3 keys to 
>> the left and 3 to the right.
>> They’re called d1 to d6 for you who might not know that.
>> Now when i want to assign a command to the d2 and d5 buttons i can’t do that 
>> in the VoiceOver utility because they don’t appear there.
>> This can’t be a normal behaviour as they seem to be registered somewhere in 
>> the system because when i press them i hear a small ding from my mac which 
>> indicates that they work but has not been assigned to any command.
>> I have contacted apple accessibility about it but i doubt it will be of any 
>> effect in the near future.
>> Apart from that the display is really nice and has nice dots.
>> /A
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Re: A big Apple Watch problem, is it possible to fix this or should I just bite the bullet and retire the watch.

[Petrus Tuerlings]

So what is the dilemma? Is it weather to get the old watch fixed or to get a 
new series three, then it is a no brainer as the cost is less for the new on 
and you get another warranty. But if it is bother with the watch at all because 
you already have a series 5 then I’d just forget about the old watch, but that 
is just me. 

> On 25/04/2020, at 06:54, maurice mines  wrote:
> 
>  Unfortunately, the cost is roughly 230 US to get this fixed. So the cost is 
> quite high. Since it is out of warranty. Unfortunately it’s 200 to justify a 
> new series 3. So it’s a tossup. That’s where the situation is now.
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:49, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, it makes a big difference.
>> If you still have the old iPhone, then you could have unpaired the watch.
>> I think your only option now is to send it into Apple service to get the 
>> watch reset.  I’m not sure what that will cost, and it is up to you to 
>> decide if it is worth it.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 13:31, maurice mines > > wrote:
>> 
>> Know the watch is not St. but my current phone. It was synced with the old 
>> phone. Does this make a difference?
>> 
>> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 00:30, Simon A Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> So the watch isn't sync'ed with your phone?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  >> > On Behalf Of maurice mines
>>> Sent: Friday, 24 April 2020 9:06 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: A big Apple Watch problem, is it possible to fix this or should I 
>>> just bite the bullet and retire the watch.
>>> 
>>> Hello  everyone on the list, here’s the situation I have an Apple Watch 
>>> series 3 that I kept after I upgraded to a series of five. Because of 
>>> everything it’s going on my sisters watch is now dying. So I figured I 
>>> would just erase my watch and give it to my sister. Apparently not so fast. 
>>> Number one the Series III has been sitting in a drawer for six months so I 
>>> unfortunately could not remember the passcode. Then while trying to get 
>>> this fixed, they watch tells me that too many attempts please reset and 
>>> repair. Unfortunately VoiceOver was running so when this potential fix 
>>> froze there apparently is an alternative method to accomplish this. The way 
>>> was explained to me one holds the crown down, and the button that’s just 
>>> underneath the crown on the right side forcing the watch to essentially 
>>> reboot. Then it is apparently able to hold that same bottom button down and 
>>> Shut down then Meares button apparently should appear. After spending an 
>>> hour on the phone with Apple today, and having my cited knees help me, it 
>>> was determined that the watch was defective. Because the screen is frozen, 
>>> and VoiceOver can’t be turned off, sold us the watch cannot be reset. That 
>>> has to be sent back to Apple. But because the watch is out of warranty it’s 
>>> gonna cost a bundle to fix this. Any suggestions? Or is this really the end 
>>> of the road for this device.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
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Re: world time clock

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Jason makes a useful suggestion. I've been doing this forever on my
various machines. in fact I find this approach so useful that I've
defined a host of aliases to give me current time in key time zones
around the planet. These are automatically loaded when I open a terminal
session. Here are just a few examples:

alias pst="env TZ=US/Pacific date" #Pacific Time
alias hst="env TZ=HST date" #Hawaii
alias nzt="env TZ=Pacific/Auckland date" #New Zealand
alias act="env TZ=Australia/ACT date" #Sydney
alias wst="env TZ=Australia/Perth date" #Perth
alias jst="env TZ=Japan date" #Japan
alias prc="env TZ=PRC date" #China
alias ist="env TZ=Israel date" #Israel
alias msk="env TZ=Europe/Moscow date" #Moscow
alias cet="env TZ=CET date" #Central European
alias bst="env TZ=GB date" #Great Britain
alias utc=gmt

So, if I want to know the time in China, I simply type prc and press
return

Best,

Janina

'Jason White' via MacVisionaries writes:
> In the Mac OS terminal, set the TZ variable and then run the date command, 
> for example:
> TZ=US/Pacific date
> Which will show you the date and time in the specified time zone. The time 
> zones are in the /usr/share/zoneinfo directory.
> 
> This is a well known solution that has worked on UNIX systems for a long time.
> 
> On 4/21/20, 13:51, "Jürgen Fleger"  behalf of mailinglis...@fleger.net> wrote:
> 
> Again: Thanks to you both. Great App and a great web side.
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
> 
> > Am 21.04.2020 um 18:46 schrieb 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> > 
> > I've not done time conversions on my Mac, but this kind of feature is a
> > common need for anyone working with colleagues around the globe.
> > 
> > I'd be very surprised if this was difficult to accomplish this on Apple.
> > I know my Android Clock app allows me to quickly see current time any of
> > dozens of world cities. I get to choose the ones I want at the top of my
> > list.
> > 
> > It's also an important feature when traveling internationally.
> > 
> > There's also this very useful web service:
> > 
> > https://TimeAndDate.com
> > 
> > PS: Germany is generally 9 hours ahead of U.S. pacific Time, so 9:00 AM
> > in San Francisco will be 18:00 in Berlin.
> > 
> > Good luck!
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > 
> > Jürgen Fleger writes:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> I’m looking for  an accessible Time converter for my iPhone or Mac. 
> All I know is I need to convert 9 am Pacific time to german time but I don’t 
> know a place or city in Pacific time area. 
> >> 
> >> Does anyone know such a time converter?
> >> 
> >> Thanks and all the best
> >> Jürgen
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Re: New display, new buttons.

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

Based on a quick review of the Web site, the Vario 340 is one of those classic 
designs from Baum, where there is no braille keyboard, but there are six 
"display keys" to the right and left of the display itself.

I suspect that Apple might not have updated everything that they need to in 
order to support it fully. It has a USB Type C port, which suggests it's a 
relatively recent design.

I would also expect Linux and BRLTTY to work well with it.
On 4/24/20, 14:57, "'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries" 
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Hi Anders,

Pete is correct, the standard chord-commands do work. I strongly recommend 
that you spend a lot of time with the Manual for this display. It's a great 
display, but it's a bit complicated to learn.

To the left of the spacebar, going from left to right, you will find the 
following keys: S1 S2 B9. To the right, again going from left to right, you'll 
find: B0, S3, and S4.

Best,
Donna

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
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> Andres,
> 
> D2 and D5 are used to pan the display back and forth, so you won’t find 
them listed in the VO Utility. Also, I’m pretty sure that most of the commands 
involving the space keys will work the same as on other displays. I have a 
VarioUltra 20, and the space commands work fine. I’m not familiar with the 340, 
how many Braille cells does it have? Just curious. Let me know if you have any 
other questions. I’ve only had my Ultra for about two months, but I do love it.
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Anders Holmberg  
wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I’ve got a Vario 340 today and since i haven’t played a lot with the 
VoiceOver utility to change keystrokes for some common things i am a bit 
stunned.
>> For you who know the VarioUltra and other Baum products they have 3 keys 
to the left and 3 to the right.
>> They’re called d1 to d6 for you who might not know that.
>> Now when i want to assign a command to the d2 and d5 buttons i can’t do 
that in the VoiceOver utility because they don’t appear there.
>> This can’t be a normal behaviour as they seem to be registered somewhere 
in the system because when i press them i hear a small ding from my mac which 
indicates that they work but has not been assigned to any command.
>> I have contacted apple accessibility about it but i doubt it will be of 
any effect in the near future.
>> Apart from that the display is really nice and has nice dots.
>> /A
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Status of uploads to iCloud

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When uploading to iCloud, how can I see the status of the upload, such as how 
long it will take and the amount uploade or left to upload?

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reinitializing bluetooth

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RDesetting is not the same. I need to do this and when I looked it up, the way 
to do it was visual. Can anyone tell me if there is an alternative?

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Forget This Device

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I've been asked by an organization who received my old iPad that I 
need to do the 'Forget This Device' in iCloud. Problem is, I do not see 
it listed anywhere. Where might I check this so I can be sure it's done?


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Many believe that we have been visited
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Re: Forget This Device

['Tim J Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

On iOS/iPadOS, go into Settings, Your Name, and swipe right all the way through 
to find the devices connected to your Apple ID.  On Mac, go to System Prefs, 
Apple ID, then Interact with the table and the devices associated with your 
Apple ID are listed further down.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 24, 2020, at 19:56, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  I've been asked by an organization who received my old iPad that I need to do 
the 'Forget This Device' in iCloud. Problem is, I do not see it listed 
anywhere. Where might I check this so I can be sure it's done?

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Re: Status of uploads to iCloud

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Hi,

Either bring focus to the specific file and it will be announced while focus is 
on it, or check within the Status bar of the iCloud window to have the status 
announced.  If the Status bar is not visible, press cmd-slash for it to become 
visible in the window.

Later...


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When uploading to iCloud, how can I see the status of the upload, such as how 
long it will take and the amount uploade or left to upload?

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delivery delay

[Gerry Cook]

Hi i’m getting strange delivery delay messages so can everyone or at least some 
of you confirm that your getting my messages. 

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Re: Forget This Device

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   No joy there, I see only my current devices. I will try to find out 
more next week.


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On 4/24/2020 8:07 PM, 'Tim J Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

On iOS/iPadOS, go into Settings, Your Name, and swipe right all the way 
through to find the devices connected to your Apple ID.  On Mac, go to 
System Prefs, Apple ID, then Interact with the table and the devices 
associated with your Apple ID are listed further down.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
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Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 24, 2020, at 19:56, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   I've been asked by an organization who received my old iPad that I 
need to do the 'Forget This Device' in iCloud. Problem is, I do not see 
it listed anywhere. Where might I check this so I can be sure it's done?


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Re: delivery delay

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Got it.


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Re: delivery delay

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thanks the optusnet account was the cause of it as it was a pop account 

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