Reading difficult documents in Voice dream Reader

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello,
>From time to time I need to read a difficult document such as a part of a 
>technical document or the lyrics of a song using VO and Voice Dream Reader. I 
>would like to read such documents (or parts thereof) paragraph by paragraph or 
>sentence by sentence or line by line.

I find that For DOCX files I can repeatedly do a 1 finger right flick to read 
the document in easily digestible pieces possibly controlled by the Navigation 
Unit setting. Alas I have not found a way to read PDF or TXT or RTF files by 
paragraph or sentence or line. I can repeatedly do a 3 finger flick up but that 
seems to move the document down by 1 line and then read the resultant 
paragraph. This is a very slow way to read as I keep hearing text I have read 
before.

Is there a good way to read PDF or TXT or RTF files in small pieces. Even line 
by line would be good.

Many thanks for any tips and keep well … Paul Hopewell

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Re: Reading difficult documents in Voice dream Reader

[David Chittenden]

Turn the rotor to lines and use a single finger vertical flick.

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 20:34, Paul Hopewell 
wrote:

> Hello,
> From time to time I need to read a difficult document such as a part of a
> technical document or the lyrics of a song using VO and Voice Dream Reader.
> I would like to read such documents (or parts thereof) paragraph by
> paragraph or sentence by sentence or line by line.
>
> I find that For DOCX files I can repeatedly do a 1 finger right flick to
> read the document in easily digestible pieces possibly controlled by the
> Navigation Unit setting. Alas I have not found a way to read PDF or TXT or
> RTF files by paragraph or sentence or line. I can repeatedly do a 3 finger
> flick up but that seems to move the document down by 1 line and then read
> the resultant paragraph. This is a very slow way to read as I keep hearing
> text I have read before.
>
> Is there a good way to read PDF or TXT or RTF files in small pieces. Even
> line by line would be good.
>
> Many thanks for any tips and keep well … Paul Hopewell
>
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Re: Reading difficult documents in Voice dream Reader

[Phil Halton]

Voice dream writer, the companion app to voice dream reader is absolutely the 
app for you in this case. I use it for precisely the same reasons you state, I 
can’t listen to difficult material read back in a continuous flow so I load the 
file into voice dream writer which gives me the option of reading by paragraph 
by sentence or by heading or even bike word and character with a single flip of 
the cursor. It’s only limitation is you can only load in text files.txt. 
However to get around this limitation you can first load The file, be a PDF or 
whatever format, into Voice Dream reader, and then export the text to writer. 
So in effect you can read any file type in Writer but must first go through the 
reader app.  P.S.the process of exporting text from reader into Writer has been 
 made a little more obscure in the last update, so, if you do buy the app and 
are having trouble, right again and I’ll give you the details.A 

Sent from my IPhone


> On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:00 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> 
> Turn the rotor to lines and use a single finger vertical flick.
> 
>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 20:34, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> From time to time I need to read a difficult document such as a part of a 
>> technical document or the lyrics of a song using VO and Voice Dream Reader. 
>> I would like to read such documents (or parts thereof) paragraph by 
>> paragraph or sentence by sentence or line by line.
>> 
>> I find that For DOCX files I can repeatedly do a 1 finger right flick to 
>> read the document in easily digestible pieces possibly controlled by the 
>> Navigation Unit setting. Alas I have not found a way to read PDF or TXT or 
>> RTF files by paragraph or sentence or line. I can repeatedly do a 3 finger 
>> flick up but that seems to move the document down by 1 line and then read 
>> the resultant paragraph. This is a very slow way to read as I keep hearing 
>> text I have read before.
>> 
>> Is there a good way to read PDF or TXT or RTF files in small pieces. Even 
>> line by line would be good.
>> 
>> Many thanks for any tips and keep well … Paul Hopewell
>> 
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RS Games on Catalina?

[Brandon Olivares]

Does RS Games not work with Catalina? Just tried downloading the client and I’m 
getting an error.

Brandon

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Re: RS Games on Catalina?

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Yes, it works did you download the 64-bit version?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 12:17 PM, Brandon Olivares  
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> Does RS Games not work with Catalina? Just tried downloading the client and 
> I’m getting an error.
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> Brandon
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Re: Reading difficult documents in Voice dream Reader

[Michael Busboom]

Hello Phil,

If you don’t mind, I would also like that explanation.

Thanks so much for bringing this approach to my attention.

Peace and health,

Mike 


> On 18.04.2020, at 15:18, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Voice dream writer, the companion app to voice dream reader is absolutely the 
> app for you in this case. I use it for precisely the same reasons you state, 
> I can’t listen to difficult material read back in a continuous flow so I load 
> the file into voice dream writer which gives me the option of reading by 
> paragraph by sentence or by heading or even bike word and character with a 
> single flip of the cursor. It’s only limitation is you can only load in text 
> files.txt. However to get around this limitation you can first load The file, 
> be a PDF or whatever format, into Voice Dream reader, and then export the 
> text to writer. So in effect you can read any file type in Writer but must 
> first go through the reader app.  P.S.the process of exporting text from 
> reader into Writer has been  made a little more obscure in the last update, 
> so, if you do buy the app and are having trouble, right again and I’ll give 
> you the details.A 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:00 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Turn the rotor to lines and use a single finger vertical flick.
>> 
>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 20:34, Paul Hopewell > > wrote:
>> Hello,
>> From time to time I need to read a difficult document such as a part of a 
>> technical document or the lyrics of a song using VO and Voice Dream Reader. 
>> I would like to read such documents (or parts thereof) paragraph by 
>> paragraph or sentence by sentence or line by line.
>> 
>> I find that For DOCX files I can repeatedly do a 1 finger right flick to 
>> read the document in easily digestible pieces possibly controlled by the 
>> Navigation Unit setting. Alas I have not found a way to read PDF or TXT or 
>> RTF files by paragraph or sentence or line. I can repeatedly do a 3 finger 
>> flick up but that seems to move the document down by 1 line and then read 
>> the resultant paragraph. This is a very slow way to read as I keep hearing 
>> text I have read before.
>> 
>> Is there a good way to read PDF or TXT or RTF files in small pieces. Even 
>> line by line would be good.
>> 
>> Many thanks for any tips and keep well … Paul Hopewell
>> 
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Re: RS Games on Catalina?

[Brandon Olivares]

Oops I was stupid, accidentally downloaded 32Bit. Got it now, thanks!

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 12:19 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it works did you download the 64-bit version?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 12:17 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Does RS Games not work with Catalina? Just tried downloading the client and 
>> I’m getting an error.
>> 
>> Brandon
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Re: Reading difficult documents in Voice dream Reader

[Phil Halton]

In order to export text into writer from the reader app, select the “document“ 
button at the top left next to the library button. Then select “export all 
text“. In the share sheet that appears you are looking for “copy to writer“. 
Recent version updates have buried this copy to writer in the “more “options 
button. Find that, and tap on copy to writer and the text will be exported and 
writer will open. look for your text file in the file manager, it will have the 
same name as the file that was opened in reader. Sent from my IPhone


> On Apr 18, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Phil,
> 
> If you don’t mind, I would also like that explanation.
> 
> Thanks so much for bringing this approach to my attention.
> 
> Peace and health,
> 
> Mike 
> 
> 
>> On 18.04.2020, at 15:18, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> Voice dream writer, the companion app to voice dream reader is absolutely 
>> the app for you in this case. I use it for precisely the same reasons you 
>> state, I can’t listen to difficult material read back in a continuous flow 
>> so I load the file into voice dream writer which gives me the option of 
>> reading by paragraph by sentence or by heading or even bike word and 
>> character with a single flip of the cursor. It’s only limitation is you can 
>> only load in text files.txt. However to get around this limitation you can 
>> first load The file, be a PDF or whatever format, into Voice Dream reader, 
>> and then export the text to writer. So in effect you can read any file type 
>> in Writer but must first go through the reader app.  P.S.the process of 
>> exporting text from reader into Writer has been  made a little more obscure 
>> in the last update, so, if you do buy the app and are having trouble, right 
>> again and I’ll give you the details.A 
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:00 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Turn the rotor to lines and use a single finger vertical flick.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 20:34, Paul Hopewell  
>>> wrote:
 Hello,
 From time to time I need to read a difficult document such as a part of a 
 technical document or the lyrics of a song using VO and Voice Dream 
 Reader. I would like to read such documents (or parts thereof) paragraph 
 by paragraph or sentence by sentence or line by line.
 
 I find that For DOCX files I can repeatedly do a 1 finger right flick to 
 read the document in easily digestible pieces possibly controlled by the 
 Navigation Unit setting. Alas I have not found a way to read PDF or TXT or 
 RTF files by paragraph or sentence or line. I can repeatedly do a 3 finger 
 flick up but that seems to move the document down by 1 line and then read 
 the resultant paragraph. This is a very slow way to read as I keep hearing 
 text I have read before.
 
 Is there a good way to read PDF or TXT or RTF files in small pieces. Even 
 line by line would be good.
 
 Many thanks for any tips and keep well … Paul Hopewell
 
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Re: RS Games on Catalina?

[Faith Girvan]

I didn’t test it, because it actually says on the site they don’t have a 
version yet available for the newest Mac version. So currently, I am playing it 
on my window side. But yes, that is correct.
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> I’m getting an error.
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> Brandon
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Re: RS Games on Catalina?

['Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Faith, and all on list.  this link will work here.  the 64 bit version is 
currently in beta, but I’ve run it here, and all seems fine here, not having 
any issues with it.  Here’s the link off the downloads page.  
http://rsgames.org/rsdownloads/rsgclient/rsgclient2-mac-64bit.zip
Take care.  
> On Apr 18, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Faith Girvan  wrote:
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> I didn’t test it, because it actually says on the site they don’t have a 
> version yet available for the newest Mac version. So currently, I am playing 
> it on my window side. But yes, that is correct.
> Faith
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>> Does RS Games not work with Catalina? Just tried downloading the client and 
>> I’m getting an error.
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Re: Zoom

[Lorie McCloud]

I turn my phone off at night. that seems to have something to do with it. I 
guess I'm going to eventually create a pass code and touch ID for my phone.

> On Apr 17, 2020, at 5:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Unless you manually sign out of the Zoom app, you should remain signed in.
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> located in the Settings area of the app.  
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> continually prompted to enter your Zoom login credentials.  
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> Mark
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:14 PM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Zoom
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> for about the past week if I'm using Zoom on my iPhone it wants me to sign in 
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Re: Zoom

[Petrus Tuerlings]

I’m curious, why do you turn your phone off at night?

> On 19/04/2020, at 08:45, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I turn my phone off at night. that seems to have something to do with it. I 
> guess I'm going to eventually create a pass code and touch ID for my phone.
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2020, at 5:15 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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>> located in the Settings area of the app.  
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>> continually prompted to enter your Zoom login credentials.  
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
>> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:14 PM
>> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>> Subject: Zoom
>> 
>> for about the past week if I'm using Zoom on my iPhone it wants me to sign 
>> in every time. is there a box I can check somewhere that'll keep me signed 
>> in? there are people who send me messages on there and you have to be signed 
>> in for that.
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>> thanks.
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Re: Zoom

[Lorie McCloud]

2 reasons. 
1. I think it's better of the device if it isn't on all the time.
2. I don't want to be disturbed. I know I could turn on airplane mode or 
something like that but since I think it should be off sometimes I might as 
well do it when I don't want to be disturbed.

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
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> I’m curious, why do you turn your phone off at night?
> 
>> On 19/04/2020, at 08:45, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> I turn my phone off at night. that seems to have something to do with it. I 
>> guess I'm going to eventually create a pass code and touch ID for my phone.
>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2020, at 5:15 PM, M. Taylor >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Lorie,
>>> 
>>> Unless you manually sign out of the Zoom app, you should remain signed in.
>>> 
>>> It might be a good idea for you to enable the Face ID / Touch ID toggle, 
>>> located in the Settings area of the app.  
>>> 
>>> If you have not enabled either of these authentication features, on your 
>>> iOS device, before installing the app, then that could be the reason why 
>>> you are continually prompted to enter your Zoom login credentials.  
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
>>> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:14 PM
>>> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>> Subject: Zoom
>>> 
>>> for about the past week if I'm using Zoom on my iPhone it wants me to sign 
>>> in every time. is there a box I can check somewhere that'll keep me signed 
>>> in? there are people who send me messages on there and you have to be 
>>> signed in for that.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: RS Games on Catalina?

[Gerry Cook]

Hi there’s a 64 bit beta version but its a bit un stable so i’d wait till they 
release a new one. 

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> Does RS Games not work with Catalina? Just tried downloading the client and 
> I’m getting an error.
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Help with saving files in Pages

[Eric Caron]

Hi Folks,

I’m hoping a Pages user can walk me through the file menu of the Pages 
app.

I need to understand how things work and I think my years as a Microsoft Word 
user is getting in the way.

I’m looking for a easy way to save a document I’m working in and give it a new 
name or save it to a different location.

When I press Save nothing seems to happen but I’m pretty sure it has saved my 
recent changes.

If I press Duplicate it makes a copy but then I’m dumped back into my file and 
have not been able to change the name or save it to a new place.
If I press rename It seems to open and then I’m back in my file without being 
able to give it a new name.

And pressing Move brings me a place where I can select some locations with a 
button but not go more deeply into a folder to save the document.

I’m sure it is me just not understanding the work flow so I’d love some tips on 
saving and naming files in Pages.

Appreciatively,

Eric Caron

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Re: Help with saving files in Pages

[Brad Snyder]

In the File menu, if you hold down the OPTION key, the Duplicate command 
changes to Save As.
Or, just use the keyboard command CMD + OPT + SHIFT + S for Save As while 
working in a document.

HTH

- Brad -




On Apr 18, 2020, at 20:55, Eric Caron  wrote:

Hi Folks,

I’m hoping a Pages user can walk me through the file menu of the Pages 
app.

I need to understand how things work and I think my years as a Microsoft Word 
user is getting in the way.

I’m looking for a easy way to save a document I’m working in and give it a new 
name or save it to a different location.

When I press Save nothing seems to happen but I’m pretty sure it has saved my 
recent changes.

If I press Duplicate it makes a copy but then I’m dumped back into my file and 
have not been able to change the name or save it to a new place.
If I press rename It seems to open and then I’m back in my file without being 
able to give it a new name.

And pressing Move brings me a place where I can select some locations with a 
button but not go more deeply into a folder to save the document.

I’m sure it is me just not understanding the work flow so I’d love some tips on 
saving and naming files in Pages.

Appreciatively,

Eric Caron

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Re: Editing Formulas in Excel for the Mac

[Dave Carlson]

Tim,
That does not work. Do I need to have any specific settings enabled to edit 
formulas?


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