sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

2019-10-05 Thread João de Sousa e Silva 

Hi all,

With iOS 13.1.2 running in an iPhone 8 I sawmyself without sound already 
twice. The haptic feedback was working but no sound at all.


After plugging it to my Mac and press more-or-less randomly at the 
screen, it was vibrating, indicating that the passcode was wrong.


From other phone I called to it and, again, more-or-less randomly I 
managed to answer the call and realized that it was working. Right after 
the sound returned to the whole system.


Today a similar situation happened:

I was listening a podcast while a phone call arrived at other 
synchronized iPhone. I answered it at the iPhone 8. After hanging up the 
sound was gone. I call from another phone to the iPhone 8. Although I 
couldn’t answer the call, after some seconds the sound returned, and the 
podcast restarted at the point that it was before I got the original 
phone call to the other synchronised iPhone.


Anyone with a similar experience?

Regards,

João

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OS 6: cannot access the status barWatch

2019-10-05 Thread João de Sousa e Silva 

Hi all,

Since the first version of Watch OS 6, in both, an s4 and n a s3, I 
cannot access the status bar at the watch.


It works just a few times. When I have notifications sometimes I can 
access it. If I lock the watch and woke it up right away , I cannot 
access the status bar anymore.


Anyone else?

Regards,

João

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Whatch OS 6: no sound while entering the unlock code

2019-10-05 Thread João de Sousa e Silva 

Hi all,

Since the first version of Watch OS 6, while entering the code to unlock 
the watch, any sound isn’t reproduced indicating that the capacitive 
keys are being activated, although they are.


Anyone else realised this?

Regards,

João

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Re: Whatch OS 6: no sound while entering the unlock code

2019-10-05 Thread 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
Yes, this is so frustrating!
Harry

> On 5 Oct 2019, at 09:04, João de Sousa e Silva  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> 
> Since  the first version of Watch OS 6, while entering the code to unlock the 
> watch, any sound isn’t reproduced indicating that the capacitive keys are 
> being activated, although they are.
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone else realised this?
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> João
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Re: Mark on Latest Commercial Release of iOS 13 Using iPhone 8 Plus

2019-10-05 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
The biggest reason I am still disinclined to upgrade my 8 Plus right now is the 
scrolling behaviour.  This is just very, very annoying and broken, and it 
appears to be a known issue, but some screens especially those in Settings 
cannot be swiped through consistently because of the appearance of what VO 
calls “Scroll Bars”.  Although you can work around this using scroll gestures 
and screen exploration, it seriously undermines the experience to the point I 
decided against the upgrade of my primary phone, and wiped my iPod Touch 
completely until such time as Apple fixes it or at least until the problem is 
less annoying.

Cheers,
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Re: Shortcuts App on the iPhone

2019-10-05 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
I can’t get the hang of shortcuts either and don’t use them because of it. I 
don’t understand the concepts.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Oct 2019, at 10:08 am, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> HI!
> I haven’t played with the Shortcuts app much.
> I don’t seem to get the hang of it.
> Maybe i am thinking to much of macroDroid for ANdroid phones.
> /A
> 
>> 2 okt. 2019 kl. 21:54 skrev Petrus Tuerlings :
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> Yesterday I updated to 1.2 of the IOS 13 releases and I noticed it made 
>> reference to fixing a shortcuts App bug. However it has seemed to have done 
>> the opposite for me. One of my shortcuts is now broken, has anyone else had 
>> any problems. There is one song in my music app that I play each morning on 
>> waking up and this morning I asked Siri to play morning song and all it said 
>> was “Sorry there is a problem with the app. And when I go into the shortcuts 
>> app to have a look at that shortcuts it minimises the app as soon as I try 
>> to look at that particular shortcut. 
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

2019-10-05 Thread Tim Morris 
Your not going crazy mine has done it a few times also. Along with screens 
getting very touchy and jumping all over the screen.
> On Oct 5, 2019, at 3:51 AM, João de Sousa e Silva  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> With iOS 13.1.2 running in an iPhone 8 I saw  myself without sound already 
> twice. The haptic feedback was working but no sound at all.
> 
> After plugging it to my Mac and press more-or-less randomly at the screen, it 
> was vibrating, indicating that the passcode was wrong.
> 
> From other phone I called to it and, again, more-or-less randomly I managed 
> to answer the call and realized that it was working. Right after the sound 
> returned to the whole system.
> 
>  
> Today a similar situation happened:
> 
> I was listening a podcast while a phone call arrived at other synchronized 
> iPhone. I answered it at the iPhone 8. After hanging up the sound was gone. I 
> call from another phone to the iPhone 8. Although  I couldn’t answer the 
> call, after some seconds the sound returned, and the podcast restarted at the 
> point that it was before I got the original phone call to the other 
> synchronised iPhone.
> 
>  
> Anyone with a similar experience?
> 
>  
> Regards,
> 
> João
> 
> 
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Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

2019-10-05 Thread Jessica Moss 
Same, I, along with my supervisor at one of. My jobs where we do 508 compliance 
of web sites, both use a Mac, and the screen is doing the exact same thing.  
We’re both having the issue of the cursor skipping around, and he’s apparently 
contacted Apple about this, and several things we both found as far as safari 
getting stuck at the navigation portion of the screen when I would try to test 
various sites, but never had this issue trying to browse the sites using Google 
Crome.

> On Oct 5, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Tim Morris  wrote:
> 
> Your not going crazy mine has done it a few times also. Along with screens 
> getting very touchy and jumping all over the screen.
>> On Oct 5, 2019, at 3:51 AM, João de Sousa e Silva > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>  
>> With iOS 13.1.2 running in an iPhone 8 I saw  myself without sound already 
>> twice. The haptic feedback was working but no sound at all.
>> 
>> After plugging it to my Mac and press more-or-less randomly at the screen, 
>> it was vibrating, indicating that the passcode was wrong.
>> 
>> From other phone I called to it and, again, more-or-less randomly I managed 
>> to answer the call and realized that it was working. Right after the sound 
>> returned to the whole system.
>> 
>>  
>> Today a similar situation happened:
>> 
>> I was listening a podcast while a phone call arrived at other synchronized 
>> iPhone. I answered it at the iPhone 8. After hanging up the sound was gone. 
>> I call from another phone to the iPhone 8. Although  I couldn’t answer the 
>> call, after some seconds the sound returned, and the podcast restarted at 
>> the point that it was before I got the original phone call to the other 
>> synchronised iPhone.
>> 
>>  
>> Anyone with a similar experience?
>> 
>>  
>> Regards,
>> 
>> João
>> 
>> 
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Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

2019-10-05 Thread Loy Green 
I experienced this once my self. The hapticks were sounding but no voice over. 
I triple click the to turn off VO and triple clicked again and VO came back.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Morris 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 3:07 PM
  Subject: Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2


  Your not going crazy mine has done it a few times also. Along with screens 
getting very touchy and jumping all over the screen.

On Oct 5, 2019, at 3:51 AM, João de Sousa e Silva  
wrote:



Hi all,



With iOS 13.1.2 running in an iPhone 8 I saw  myself without sound already 
twice. The haptic feedback was working but no sound at all.

After plugging it to my Mac and press more-or-less randomly at the screen, 
it was vibrating, indicating that the passcode was wrong.

From other phone I called to it and, again, more-or-less randomly I managed 
to answer the call and realized that it was working. Right after the sound 
returned to the whole system.



Today a similar situation happened:

I was listening a podcast while a phone call arrived at other synchronized 
iPhone. I answered it at the iPhone 8. After hanging up the sound was gone. I 
call from another phone to the iPhone 8. Although  I couldn’t answer the call, 
after some seconds the sound returned, and the podcast restarted at the point 
that it was before I got the original phone call to the other synchronised 
iPhone.



Anyone with a similar experience?



Regards,

João





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Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

2019-10-05 Thread Ibraheem Fakir 
Same behavior on my end as well. Consistently occurs after hanging up a phone 
call.
All best,
Ibraheem


Mistakes sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2019, at 4:06 PM, Loy Green  wrote:
> 
> 
> I experienced this once my self. The hapticks were sounding but no voice 
> over. I triple click the to turn off VO and triple clicked again and VO came 
> back.
> - Original Message -
> From: Tim Morris
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2
> 
> Your not going crazy mine has done it a few times also. Along with screens 
> getting very touchy and jumping all over the screen.
>> On Oct 5, 2019, at 3:51 AM, João de Sousa e Silva  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> With iOS 13.1.2 running in an iPhone 8 I saw  myself without sound already 
>> twice. The haptic feedback was working but no sound at all.
>> 
>> After plugging it to my Mac and press more-or-less randomly at the screen, 
>> it was vibrating, indicating that the passcode was wrong.
>> 
>> From other phone I called to it and, again, more-or-less randomly I managed 
>> to answer the call and realized that it was working. Right after the sound 
>> returned to the whole system.
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> Today a similar situation happened:
>> 
>> I was listening a podcast while a phone call arrived at other synchronized 
>> iPhone. I answered it at the iPhone 8. After hanging up the sound was gone. 
>> I call from another phone to the iPhone 8. Although  I couldn’t answer the 
>> call, after some seconds the sound returned, and the podcast restarted at 
>> the point that it was before I got the original phone call to the other 
>> synchronised iPhone.
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> Anyone with a similar experience?
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> Regards,
>> 
>> João
>> 
>> 
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Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

2019-10-05 Thread Angus MacKinnon 
I made a call and when I hanged up, I had no sounds. iTunes saw the phone but 
no sounds. I took the phone to an Apple Store. A Apple Genius Performed a Hard 
Rest. And after getting a Hard Reset done all sounds returned. about a week 
later I had the same problem. My father came over to help me do a Hard Reset.  
On Thursday after calling a Doctor, as soon as I hanged up all sounds were 
gone. It seems that I was finally able to do a Hard Reset myself and after the 
phone was able to talk to Apple’s Servers, all sounds returned.

Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student
Charles Péguy said, “The revolution is moral or not at all”

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iOS 13.x Bug Report: Cannot Dismiss Share Name and Photo Prompt in Messages via VoiceOver

2019-10-05 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello All,

I hope you will join me in sending the following bug report to Apple, making
changes where you see fit.

Thank you,

Mark

iOS 13.x Bug Report:  Cannot Dismiss Share Name and Photo Prompt in Messages
via VoiceOver

With VoiceOver enabled, the user cannot dismiss the "Share Name and Photo"
prompt that appears in the iOS 13.x Messages app.

Steps to Reproduce:  

1.
Make certain that VoiceOver is enabled.

2.
When setting up iOS 13.x for the first time, elect not to enable the sharing
of name and photo in Messages.

3.
Open the Messages app.

4.
At some point, most likely when you receive an iMessage from a contact, you
will be prompted to share your name and photo.  You are given two options
although the second option is not obvious to the VoiceOver user.  The first
option is to enable the sharing option.This prompt is located near the
top of the display/beginning of a thread.  See attached screen shot for
example.

5.
While a sighted, non-VoiceOver user can easily see that there is an "X"
located near the prompt, allowing the user to permanently dismiss the
prompt, VoiceOver does not speak this option.  

6.
Assuming that the VoiceOver user does not wish to share name and photo,
he/she can single-finger swipe up on the display, repeatedly, until
VoiceOver says, "Dismiss."  However, this option does not work.  Selecting
the "dismiss" option has absolutely no effect on the actual prompt, itself
as it continues to be displayed.  It should be noted that having the prompt
continuing to be displayed does, in fact, impact the functionality of the
Messages app for the VoiceOver user.

At present, the only workaround is to disable VoiceOver and have a sighted
person tap the "X", permanently dismissing the prompt.

I fervently request that this bug be resolved as soon as possible.

Thank you,

Mark


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RE: Whatch OS 6: no sound while entering the unlock code

2019-10-05 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
I’m not getting that but I do have an issue where most of my complications 
disappear
Or at least the name of the complication disappears but the position still 
notes something as there,

I have to keep turning the watch power off and on to get things back.

From: 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Saturday, 5 October 2019 10:23 PM
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Subject: Re: Whatch OS 6: no sound while entering the unlock code

Yes, this is so frustrating!
Harry


On 5 Oct 2019, at 09:04, João de Sousa e Silva 
mailto:joao65...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

Since  the first version of Watch OS 6, while entering the code to unlock the 
watch, any sound isn’t reproduced indicating that the capacitive keys are being 
activated, although they are.

Anyone else realised this?

Regards,
João
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Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

2019-10-05 Thread João de Sousa e Silva 
I forgot to mention that I did that, triple click twice, but without 
results. Also, was using the Find Me, the phone was there, and it was 
even saying that it was ringing, after I requested it. Again, no sound!


How to report such a problem to Apple? Sometimes I feel like at the call 
centre thy are trying more to say that it is normal than trying to 
understand the issue. Also, they will ask for a full restore with DFU 
mode… I can see this happening…



Às 21:06 de 05/10/2019, Loy Green escreveu:
I experienced this once my self. The hapticks were sounding but no 
voice over. I triple click the to turn off VO and triple clicked again 
and VO came back.


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*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Sent:* Saturday, October 5, 2019 3:07 PM
*Subject:* Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2

Your not going crazy mine has done it a few times also. Along with
screens getting very touchy and jumping all over the screen.

On Oct 5, 2019, at 3:51 AM, João de Sousa e Silva
mailto:joao65...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,


With iOS 13.1.2 running in an iPhone 8 I sawmyself without sound
already twice. The haptic feedback was working but no sound at all.

After plugging it to my Mac and press more-or-less randomly at
the screen, it was vibrating, indicating that the passcode was wrong.

From other phone I called to it and, again, more-or-less randomly
I managed to answer the call and realized that it was working.
Right after the sound returned to the whole system.


Today a similar situation happened:

I was listening a podcast while a phone call arrived at other
synchronized iPhone. I answered it at the iPhone 8. After hanging
up the sound was gone. I call from another phone to the iPhone 8.
Although I couldn’t answer the call, after some seconds the sound
returned, and the podcast restarted at the point that it was
before I got the original phone call to the other synchronised
iPhone.


Anyone with a similar experience?


Regards,

João



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RE: Mark on Latest Commercial Release of iOS 13 Using iPhone 8 Plus

2019-10-05 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Simon,

Since writing my previous post on this, I have managed to get the audio to 
switch between the phone and the watch, via the Voyager Edge, albeit not nearly 
as smoothly as in the previous versions of either OS.

As for the AirPods?  So far, I have not managed to get them connected to the 
watch.  This is to say, while they are reported as being connected, no sound 
has issued forth, VoiceOver or otherwise, from the watch.

Mark

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On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2019 11:25 PM
To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Mark on Latest Commercial Release of iOS 13 Using iPhone 8 Plus

Hi Mark,

The first issue I've noticed but I thought that was how it had always worked 
for me.

As for the second issue I'll try finding my edge and give it a try or possibly 
try my voyager 5200 as well,

But do you have any issues with earpods switching between devices automatically 
still?

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Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, 5 October 2019 5:31 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark on Latest Commercial Release of iOS 13 Using iPhone 8 Plus

Hello All,

Well, quite unexpectedly, I updated my 8 Plus to the latest version of iOS 13, 
today.  This is to say, I thought the system would ask me to agree to the terms 
of service, before updating but, for the first time in my history with the 
company, it did not.  Instead, it went right ahead and updated then, after 
rebooting, it asked if I agreed to the terms of service (smile).
I'm not blaming apple, too much, after all, I freely entered my phone's pass 
code which permitted the update.

Be that as it may, I must say that I have no major problems with the latest 
commercial release version of iOS 13.  I am careful to mention that I am 
referring to the commercial release because I am running the latest iPad OS 
beta on my iPad Pro.

After updating, I have been trying to reproduce many of the issues I've read 
about here on the list.  I am happy and surprised to report that I cannot 
reproduce any of them on my 8 Plus.  This is to say, call routing is performing 
as expected.  Call waiting and all things call related are working just fine.  
Try as I may, I have not yet managed to lose VoiceOver or any hap tic feedback 
before, during, or after making any calls, even those on Face Time.  

Mind you I've only had iOS 13 on my 8 plus for 1 days so who knows what 
tomorrow may bring but, for now, all of my go-to apps, such as Nearby Explorer, 
Over Drive, all of my banking apps, Twitter, and all of the native apps appear 
to be working as expected.  

The only annoying thing I have noticed, so far, is that when typing in a 
contact, when composing a text message, VoiceOver does not read the label 
associated with a particular number.  I will file a bug report on this, 
tomorrow.  

Steps to reproduce:

1.
>From within the messages app, compose a new message.

2.
Place focus in the, "To" field.  

3.
Type in the first few letters of a contact's name such as "dav" for the name 
"David."  Now in previous versions of the OS, VoiceOver would say something 
like, "David Johnson, Mobile."  In this release, it merely says, "David 
Johnson, 800-555-1212." Which may or may not be David's mobile number.

As for the second thing I have noticed is that now, thanks to iOS 13 and Watch 
OS 6, my seemless VoiceOver audio switching between the watch and the phone no 
longer works on my Plantronics Voyager Edge.  At least, I cannot get it to 
work.  I can get audio from either device but no longer does it do
so automatically.Thanks Apple.

If anyone out there has got this working, please let me know how you 
accomplished it.

Okay, that's all for now.

In the Journey,

Mark.


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