RE: Routers

[Simon Fogarty]

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Behalf Of Patricia Solis
Sent: Monday, 20 August 2018 10:11 AM
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Subject: Routers

Hello, need some advice on buying a router. I currently have an AirPort Extreme 
and a apple airport express to bridge my connection. My problem is trying to 
run a VPN , in which  I think I can not run it with a apple router. Most of the 
times I am running about 12 wireless connections. But during the weekend its 
more  like 20 wireless connections because of family visiting! :) Anyways, so i 
want something with a strong connection and be able to connect to a property  
that is 60 by 170 square feet.  so, what type of router should I get? I hear 
that the mesh routers are good or I have also read I would be able to keep the 
onesHiPatricia,

You say you want to use VPN 
What is it your attempting to do with your VPN ?

As tim said the apple devices are pretty good but I'm interested in what your 
trying to setup with regard to vpn access. i currently have IfI  bought a dual/ 
flash router?  Any advice would be very helpful. Hopefully, it can be one that 
is not so  complicated. ONe  reason I really liked the apple routers because of 
their simplicity. 





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Re: Network harddrive not vissible in finder.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi TiM!
You’re always so helpfull to everyone.
This was exactly what i wanted.
I will check things out.
It seems the partition i wanted to share was smaller then i expected so i first 
have to format it with diskutility.
One question though.
If i should decide to use the sharing via wan method, how unsecure is this?
I guess i have to use a very secure password to at least try to make it hard 
enough for the hackers to access it?
Thanks in advance.
/A

> 19 aug. 2018 kl. 19:32 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, the Sidebar is the starting point, but not enough information was given 
> here.  From within the Sidebar, you should be able to see the Extreme along 
> with a Connect button.  Depending on how you set up your connection method 
> from within the Airport Utility, it may require a Disk password, or a 
> username and password.  Enter the credentials after pressing the "Connect" 
> button.  If the credentials are accepted, then the two partitions should be 
> presented at which time you can connect to whichever you wish.  If you wish, 
> after the connection is established, you can go into System Prefs, Users & 
> Groups, Login Items, and set this to mount automatically whenever you log 
> into your user account.  This is only useful though, if you're not using a 
> laptop.  The laptop would likely try to access the drive when you're not in 
> your home network.  Actually, there are ways of disputing this.  It's not the 
> most secure method around, but it is possible to set up the drive to be 
> accessible via the WAN which would allow you to connect from anywhere you 
> have an Internet connection.  You would need to use the external IP address 
> to make the initial connection though instead of your internal Home network 
> IP.
> 
> Hope this makes sense.  I'll have more time beginning on Thursday as I'm in 
> the midst of other things right now.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Aug 16, 2018, at 05:13, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I have an Airport extreme here  to which i have connected a harddisk.
> THe harddisk has two partitions  of which one is a time machine backup 
> parttition and the other one is meant to be some kind of cloud service.
> But the partition does not show up in Finder even though i have turned file 
> sharing on in the Airport utility.
> I have many questions about this but the first one is how to make the 
> partition which should act as a cloud service to be shown up in finder?
> Thanks in advance for all help.
> /A
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Re: Smart refrigerators

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Hang on,
> 
>  A smart refrigerator?
> 
>  Really?
> 
>  Does it open the beer bottle before it hands it to you?
> 
No. No little robots hanging around performing tasks we use our hands
and some kind of tool to perform. 
>  Will it know when to thor out my frozen chicken before I go to cook it?
> 
Yes. If the expiration date is tagged in machine readable form, which is
the idea, then yes. Note that it can only tell you the chicken "use by"
date has passed. You still have to do the tossing yourself.

> And the really important question, will it know if I put a bottle of red wine 
> in the fridge that it should only be kept at room temp?
> 

Yes, I can see this use case being met as well, though I expect this
will come in version 2.0

> If it can't do those things then its not smart enough for me.
> 

So, how do you feel about 2 out of 3?

Janina

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> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2018 8:21 AM
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> Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators
> 
> Hi, Sarai:
> 
> I have no personal experience. However, I have been on LG's Accessibility 
> Acvisory Committee for quite a few years, and I can report they demonstrated 
> their smart refridgerator to one of our meetings. I haven, however, not 
> personally tried to use the app.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Sarai Bucciarelli writes:
> > Hi all:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have 
> > one? Are the apps accessible?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Sarai D Bucciarelli  
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Re: Routers

[Jonathan Cohn]

I would suggest delaying purchasing new network equipment as my understanding 
is that a new 802.11 standard is being finalized. That being said, most of the 
press I have read about mesh networks says they are easy to set up and add new 
routers to the mesh as space requires with the only major issue being that each 
vendor has its own protocol for maintaining the mesh so you get stuck with that 
vendor unless you swap out the entire network. 

In terms of VPN, you might have an issue of double NATTING, this can prevent 
VPN software from working. Generally these days you need to allow your ISP to 
allocate your private address space and not attempt to have your Airport router 
do this. That could be an issue if your ISP limits the number of active devices 
allowed on your account. If you are using smart devices you also might want to 
set up a separate LAN at your house that has no real Internet access to reduce 
chances of hacking. 

Hope this gives you some ideas.

> On Aug 19, 2018, at 9:54 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Actually, the Airport devices can handle VPN just fine and I created one on 
> my home airport network quite easily. That being said, the mesh devices are 
> very slick. 
> 
> Later... 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2018, at 7:14 PM, jeff `greene  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Patricia,
>> I just got a Gryphon Unhackable Mesh Router from amazon. Its pretty amazing 
>> and fast! You set it up through an iphone app. There are a few unlabeled 
>> buttons in the app but it works really well. With these Gryphon routers you 
>> can buy as many as you need.
>> HTH Jeff
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2018, at 6:10 PM, Patricia Solis  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, need some advice on buying a router. I currently have an AirPort 
>>> Extreme and a apple airport express to bridge my connection. My problem is 
>>> trying to run a VPN , in which  I think I can not run it with a apple 
>>> router. Most of the times I am running about 12 wireless connections. But 
>>> during the weekend its more  like 20 wireless connections because of family 
>>> visiting! :) Anyways, so i want something with a strong connection and be 
>>> able to connect to a property  that is 60 by 170 square feet.  so, what 
>>> type of router should I get? I hear that the mesh routers are good or I 
>>> have also read I would be able to keep the ones i currently have IfI  
>>> bought a dual/ flash router?  Any advice would be very helpful. Hopefully, 
>>> it can be one that is not so  complicated. ONe  reason I really liked the 
>>> apple routers because of their simplicity. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Smart refrigerators

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Personally, I would look for two things ...

1.) An accessible app

2.) A published accessibility policy from the manufacturer on their
web site. Because, if the company isn't committed to make their products
accessible, the app you can use today will likely become the app you
can't use on some upgrade in the future.

Janina

Anders Holmberg writes:
> Hi!
> I think at least some of these have an app related to it.
> I don’t have a smart refridgirator though.
> I was thinking of bying a smart coffee machine from S.M.A.R.T.
> But i have to test the app with it first.
> /A
> 
> > 17 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I can’t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in action nor have I seen any 
> > reviews from any blindness organizations. Generally though unlike stoves, I 
> > believe most refrigerators are plugged in at the showrooms of appliance 
> > companies so you should have a good chance of trying it out.
> > 
> > I also recently read a review of  remote control thermometers in 
> > tidbits.com  which sounded quiet intriguing
> > 
> > Best Wishes,
> > 
> > Jonathan .
> >> On Aug 17, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
> >> mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi all:
> >>  
> >> My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have one? 
> >> Are the apps accessible? 
> >>  
> >> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
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Re: Help working with spreadsheets in Numbers?

[Phantom.Vader]

Thanks for all the tips people!  Appreciate it!

Jonathan, when you say "click" the topmost cell of the column, do you
mean just VO+command+space or VO+shift+command+space?  I thought I
tried both, and neither quite seemed to do what I wanted them to at
least that I could tell!


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Trying to test Astreos:

[Sharon Hooley]

Hello Yuma,

I was going to test the Astreos app now, but the code has expired.  I didn’t 
realize how soon it would be gone.  If you’re still testing, can you please 
send me another?  I apologize and understand if you are finished.

Thanks again for the opportunity.

Sharon Hooley

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RE: Routers

[M. Taylor]

Hello Patricia,

My best advice to you is to find someone you know, locally, who has a router 
setup and seek their advice.  I say this because, these kinds of issues can be 
a little tricky and I find it best when one has in-person support to help do 
the proverbial lifting.  

Router setups are somewhat personal.  For example, I use three routers in a 
nested configuration; a secure network inside of a secure network.  I do this 
so that guests do not have access to my home network while having access to the 
internet.  While many routers do offer dual band networks bands and channels, 
along with guest access, I prefer a more secure connectivity profile in which I 
control every aspect of the system.  Also, I can easily change the password of 
the guest / sub-router without worrying about breaking primary device 
connectivity.  In many instances, I only turn on the guest network when beta 
testing un-verified profiles/software or when I have visitors or when repairing 
unknown computers.  It is a very, very nice setup that I prefer.  

So, if you have a neighbor, relative, or friend that you trust, discuss your 
options with her/him for he/she can help you not only setup your new network 
but, also, help you handle any unforeseen problems.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Patricia Solis
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 3:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Routers

Hello, need some advice on buying a router. I currently have an AirPort Extreme 
and a apple airport express to bridge my connection. My problem is trying to 
run a VPN , in which  I think I can not run it with a apple router. Most of the 
times I am running about 12 wireless connections. But during the weekend its 
more  like 20 wireless connections because of family visiting! :) Anyways, so i 
want something with a strong connection and be able to connect to a property  
that is 60 by 170 square feet.  so, what type of router should I get? I hear 
that the mesh routers are good or I have also read I would be able to keep the 
ones i currently have IfI  bought a dual/ flash router?  Any advice would be 
very helpful. Hopefully, it can be one that is not so  complicated. ONe  reason 
I really liked the apple routers because of their simplicity. 





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Re: Routers

[Patricia Solis]

Hello,

Mark your probably right, since all this is very confusing to me. The only 
reason  I am trying to run a VPN is because  on weekends  there is always 
family using my wifi and I will feel better  if I am secured. I do not know 
anyone  that can help me with this so will probably have to pay someone. 
Although, I am more inclined into buying a Mesh router and like you said have 
guess account and have more control over it. Thanks everyone for their 
suggestions.




> On Aug 20, 2018, at 10:35 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Patricia,
> 
> My best advice to you is to find someone you know, locally, who has a router 
> setup and seek their advice.  I say this because, these kinds of issues can 
> be a little tricky and I find it best when one has in-person support to help 
> do the proverbial lifting.  
> 
> Router setups are somewhat personal.  For example, I use three routers in a 
> nested configuration; a secure network inside of a secure network.  I do this 
> so that guests do not have access to my home network while having access to 
> the internet.  While many routers do offer dual band networks bands and 
> channels, along with guest access, I prefer a more secure connectivity 
> profile in which I control every aspect of the system.  Also, I can easily 
> change the password of the guest / sub-router without worrying about breaking 
> primary device connectivity.  In many instances, I only turn on the guest 
> network when beta testing un-verified profiles/software or when I have 
> visitors or when repairing unknown computers.  It is a very, very nice setup 
> that I prefer.  
> 
> So, if you have a neighbor, relative, or friend that you trust, discuss your 
> options with her/him for he/she can help you not only setup your new network 
> but, also, help you handle any unforeseen problems.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Solis
> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 3:11 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Routers
> 
> Hello, need some advice on buying a router. I currently have an AirPort 
> Extreme and a apple airport express to bridge my connection. My problem is 
> trying to run a VPN , in which  I think I can not run it with a apple router. 
> Most of the times I am running about 12 wireless connections. But during the 
> weekend its more  like 20 wireless connections because of family visiting! :) 
> Anyways, so i want something with a strong connection and be able to connect 
> to a property  that is 60 by 170 square feet.  so, what type of router should 
> I get? I hear that the mesh routers are good or I have also read I would be 
> able to keep the ones i currently have IfI  bought a dual/ flash router?  Any 
> advice would be very helpful. Hopefully, it can be one that is not so  
> complicated. ONe  reason I really liked the apple routers because of their 
> simplicity. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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spotlight doesn't work!

[Leo Bado]

Hi again listers,

firs of all I want to thank everybody who had responded to my questions 
in the past.


Here I come with another question.

Since the last OS minor update several weeks ago I noticed spotlight 
doesn't work anymore.  No matter what I write in the edit box I never 
get results.


Of course I had tryed re indexing again, I even tryed some terminal 
commands I came across on the web but nothing seems to work.


Ultimately I had to install an app called alfred and it's working great 
but  I find this spotlight issue disturbing, I even stopped the process 
that apparently works in association with spotlight and again, nothing.


any idea?


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Re: spotlight doesn't work!

[Jonathan Cohn]

I do notice sometimes that the spotlight results are in a table that I need to 
interact with.  On the topic of Alfred (or is it alford?) I am glad to hear 
that you are able to use it with VoiceOver. I had communication with the 
developer at one point and he seemed to think that it would not work correctly 
with VoiceOVer. There are some very nice functions in it if you purchase it 
directly from the vendor, things that can’t be done with the sandbox 
requirements of the Apple stores. Sorry about being vague about all this, but I 
kinda gave up on learning about Alford probably 5 years ago.

Take care,

Jonathan 

> On Aug 20, 2018, at 3:51 PM, Leo Bado  wrote:
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> Hi again listers,
> 
> firs of all I want to thank everybody who had responded to my questions in 
> the past.
> 
> Here I come with another question.
> 
> Since the last OS minor update several weeks ago I noticed spotlight doesn't 
> work anymore.  No matter what I write in the edit box I never get results.
> 
> Of course I had tryed re indexing again, I even tryed some terminal commands 
> I came across on the web but nothing seems to work.
> 
> Ultimately I had to install an app called alfred and it's working great but  
> I find this spotlight issue disturbing, I even stopped the process that 
> apparently works in association with spotlight and again, nothing.
> 
> any idea?
> 
> 
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Re: Routers

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

If you are simply looking to create a guest network, then that is an easy thing 
to do with in the airport utility. Using the AirPort Utility app, you go under 
the wireless tab and you can enable the guest network there. With the guest 
network enabled you can direct any family to use the guest network, and you 
don’t need to give out your password for them to use your regular network then. 

Later 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 20, 2018, at 3:09 PM, Patricia Solis  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Mark your probably right, since all this is very confusing to me. The only 
> reason  I am trying to run a VPN is because  on weekends  there is always 
> family using my wifi and I will feel better  if I am secured. I do not know 
> anyone  that can help me with this so will probably have to pay someone. 
> Although, I am more inclined into buying a Mesh router and like you said have 
> guess account and have more control over it. Thanks everyone for their 
> suggestions.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 20, 2018, at 10:35 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Patricia,
>> 
>> My best advice to you is to find someone you know, locally, who has a router 
>> setup and seek their advice.  I say this because, these kinds of issues can 
>> be a little tricky and I find it best when one has in-person support to help 
>> do the proverbial lifting.  
>> 
>> Router setups are somewhat personal.  For example, I use three routers in a 
>> nested configuration; a secure network inside of a secure network.  I do 
>> this so that guests do not have access to my home network while having 
>> access to the internet.  While many routers do offer dual band networks 
>> bands and channels, along with guest access, I prefer a more secure 
>> connectivity profile in which I control every aspect of the system.  Also, I 
>> can easily change the password of the guest / sub-router without worrying 
>> about breaking primary device connectivity.  In many instances, I only turn 
>> on the guest network when beta testing un-verified profiles/software or when 
>> I have visitors or when repairing unknown computers.  It is a very, very 
>> nice setup that I prefer.  
>> 
>> So, if you have a neighbor, relative, or friend that you trust, discuss your 
>> options with her/him for he/she can help you not only setup your new network 
>> but, also, help you handle any unforeseen problems.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Solis
>> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 3:11 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Routers
>> 
>> Hello, need some advice on buying a router. I currently have an AirPort 
>> Extreme and a apple airport express to bridge my connection. My problem is 
>> trying to run a VPN , in which  I think I can not run it with a apple 
>> router. Most of the times I am running about 12 wireless connections. But 
>> during the weekend its more  like 20 wireless connections because of family 
>> visiting! :) Anyways, so i want something with a strong connection and be 
>> able to connect to a property  that is 60 by 170 square feet.  so, what type 
>> of router should I get? I hear that the mesh routers are good or I have also 
>> read I would be able to keep the ones i currently have IfI  bought a dual/ 
>> flash router?  Any advice would be very helpful. Hopefully, it can be one 
>> that is not so  complicated. ONe  reason I really liked the apple routers 
>> because of their simplicity. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Test

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Re: Test

[Maria Reyes]

Loud and clear.

> On Aug 20, 2018, at 9:30 PM, Jenny Bomareto  wrote:
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