RE: More About Buying My First Mac

[Simon Fogarty]

Donna,

Yeah I find it to flat and very little definition

I spent a couple of hours using one yesterday and it really takes a lot of 
getting use to.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2018 12:37 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More About Buying My First Mac

I agree with Simon here.  I am not a fan of the MBP keyboard.  I find it more 
difficult to orient to the keyboard, and I make many more typos than I did on 
my 2013 Air..
Cheers,
Donna
On Mar 5, 2018, at 1:32 AM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Rhonda,

I’ve only had a shortish time with the pro mac book with touch bar so can’t 
really say a lot other than, go to a store if you can and have a look at one to 
get the feel of them.

One of the things I’m not currently a fan of is the flatness of the keyboards 
in the new mac books be they the new Macbook 12 inch or the 13 and 15 inch mac 
book pros,

Give them a try and see which one feels better for you then go back to apple 
and price what your after.

Good luck.

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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Rhanda Hasley
Sent: Monday, 5 March 2018 5:32 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: More About Buying My First Mac

Hi All,

Thank you for your very informative and helpful responses to my questions. I 
can definitely see the advantages of buying an Air, but as has been mentioned, 
Mac will discontinue this model at some point.  I mostly plan on doing e-mail, 
web surfing, and word processing, but might also like to do some recording, and 
utilize this computer to do work from home.  I also like to chat on line with 
Skype and maybe other programs.  For years, I’ve used a Windows desktop and 
would like a machine that’s powerful, yet portable.

Whether I get the Air or the Pro, would there be any other advantages to a unit 
with a touch bar, other than easy insertion of emojis and Touch ID?  That’s 
something I’ve not gotten into yet, and honestly don’t think I’d be doing it 
too much.  A couple of friends have indicated that units with touch bars have a 
better processing speed, but is that really significant or necessary?  In 
looking at Macs recently, I notice that ones without touch bars have the 
function keys that we’re used to on Windows computers, but the other ones use 
the FN and other keys to simulate these functions.

Will keep looking, but meanwhile, thanks for your valuable input.  Should you 
have any other questions, please let me know.

Rhanda

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RE: Adding items to the status bar.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

 Yeah I've only ever known it to be that way that when file volt is on auto log 
in is disabled 


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Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2018 5:42 AM
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Subject: Re: Adding items to the status bar.

Ok, this is interesting, supposedly, automatic log in can’t be turned on 
because file vault is turned on.  I had file vault turned on when I upgraded to 
Elcapitan, and that was never an issue.
  I don’t recall ever having to make any changes to my settings, so what’s the 
difference here, and if I absolutely have to turn file vault off, how do I go 
about doing that?
> On Mar 5, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The start at login would be found in System Prefs, in the Users & Groups 
> pane.  Select the Login Items tab and check in the table to see if pCloud is 
> listed.  Don't worry about the checked/unchecked state, just that it is 
> listed.  If it is listed in there, then it should start at login.  If when 
> you've started pCloud from the Applications folder, everything is fine, then 
> just restart the computer to see if things get fixed on their own.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 5, 2018, at 09:06, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I did mean the extras menu, but unfortunately don’t see any option to start 
> from log in, which I find interesting, sense I’ve launched it multiple times, 
> and all it does is show up with all my folders in it.
>> On Mar 5, 2018, at 11:04 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> She may mean the Extras menu.  Normally, pCloud leaves an item up there as 
>> well.  Sometimes, after an update, it does not reappear in the Extras menu.  
>> Either starting pCloud from the Applications folder or a restart usually 
>> fixes the problem.  The pCloud service is normally set to start at login, 
>> but sometimes gets messed up in the update process.  if the Extras menu was 
>> not what you meant, then Jonathan's instructions will work fine.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 5, 2018, at 08:25, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> I believe you mean the side bar? 
>> 
>> Personally, I find typing the keystroke command-shift-I to be easier than 
>> navigating the sidebar.
>> 
>> But to modify the sidebar items, open preferences while in the finder, and 
>> then click on the sidebar button in the toolbar.
>> 
>> Best Wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan 
>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve noticed that sense upgrading to siara, my PCloud icon has disappeared 
>>> from my status bar, and I have no idea how to readd it.  Can someone please 
>>> tell me how to do this?
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RE: Unidentified Network

[Simon Fogarty]

What's the ip address of the host machine and is it the same range as your 
routers address?

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Subject: Unidentified Network

Latest VMware Fusion running Windows 7 VM. Lately I am getting 
"Unidentified Network no internet access" after I load the VM. Today I finally 
disconnected the network adapter then reconnecting it. Before I did this, I had 
run diagnostics in Windows network settings which indicated something about the 
LAN's IP address. How might I fix this?


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RE: Updating Apple watch, do others have problems?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Kawal,

 I must admit my watch does take time to update,
 But I would suggest if it's not going to be a big issue,
 Reset the watch to factory defaults and set it up again.

 Just to make sure things are all ok with the setup.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2018 11:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating Apple watch, do others have problems?

Oh yes, I definitely have it on charge. It’s the iPhone that isn’t updating the 
Watch I don’t think. I am not sure.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 5 Mar 2018, at 7:34 am, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Do you have the watch on power / charger when your doing this?
> 
> I do know it takes a longer time to update the watch os but that's why I do 
> the update over night and my watch is on charge 
> 
> But still yeah it's a couple of hours at most to update the watch last time I 
> did it.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Monday, 5 March 2018 6:00 AM
> To: Macvisionaries 
> Subject: Updating Apple watch, do others have problems?
> 
> Hi All.
> 
> Over a week now on my I phone, my watch app says one new item.  I guess that 
> it is an update for my Apple watch.
> 
> Let's say some time ago there was another apple watch update but it tooke a 
> week to get the update on my watch because the damn thing wouldn't download 
> to my watch as there was nothing showing even though the app said one new 
> item.
> 
> I am seriously pissed off now because I can't download and update this apple 
> three generation.
> 
> I don't mean to be rude but please just understand that I can get my I phone 
> watch app open, go to general software update and it keeps saying in progress 
> but nothing happens and after 5 minutes the phone locks and no update for my 
> watch.  So what is one meant to do?
> 
> Kawal.
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RE: Apple Pay and Touch ID

[Simon Fogarty]

We have something similar called pay wave,
 No pin is needed until your paying over 80 dollars ,
 Could it be a similar feature.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2018 2:25 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID

Kawal,
Thanks. Well I wonder if its bank specific. I entered all that information. 
I went into Wallet to see if there was something else but did not see where to 
edit the card details, but did not spend a lot of time looking.

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On 3/5/2018 3:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> Hi E T.
> 
> You don't need to enter your debit card pin when you do Apple Pay.
> 
> Did you set up your card details in Apple Pay to start with which you can 
> find in your Wallet as you need to add your CSV number and your long card 
> number if I remember rightly to get this going.  Once you enter those 
> details, then the server will varify your card and you will get a text from 
> your Bank thanking you for setting up Apple Pay and so on.
> 
> Do check your wallet first before you use Apple Pay again on your I phone 8.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 5 Mar 2018, at 21:08, E.T.  wrote:
>>
>>This worked for me today. Just curious that I still needed to 
>> enter the PIN for my debit card. If the terminal has no physical 
>> keypad, its no good anyway,
>>
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>> On 3/3/2018 6:09 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> E.T.,
>>> Remember, if you have everything setup correctly, the only time you will 
>>> need to enter your phone's pass code is when you reboot the phone.
>>> Mark
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 5:58 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID
>>> Alex,
>>>  Thanks. Remember, this is all new to me. I only just got Touch ID and 
>>> Apple Pay set up in the last couple days. Plus the passcode which until now 
>>> I never used. I will try this again on Monday.
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>>> On 3/3/2018 6:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
 In general, the process is simply:

 * from the lock screen or notifications center, press the home 
 button twice
 * your default card will be selected, but you can choose a 
 different card if you have one
 * hold the phone near the reader
 * touch the home button to authenticate, or do what I do and just 
 leave your finger there while holding the phone to the reader
 * after a moment, the phone vibrates and chimes, and you're done

 Really, stepping through it like that makes it sound longer and 
 harder than it is. Double press the home button, hold the phone to 
 the reader, and rest a finger on the home button for Touch ID. The 
 only way it gets easier is if you're using an Apple Watch. I hope 
 this explains things some, and your next attempt goes more smoothly.

 --
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> On Mar 3, 2018, at 00:34, E.T.  > wrote:
>
> Mark,
>I did not get that far. What I ran into was, simply put, not 
> knowing yet how to make the transaction. And I did not have the 
> luxury of keeping the checker waiting.
>
>I expected to use Touch ID but was prompted for the passcode.
>
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> On 3/2/2018 9:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello E.T.,
>> Your question is too broad in order to elicit a meaningful anser.
>> However, I can tell you that today, both a friend and I were 
>> unsuccessful in getting Apple Pay to work at three different 
>> terminals at three different businesses, on each of our phones.  
>> I have an 8 Plus and she has a 7 Plus.
>> We surmised that the system was down or working very slowly.  
>> This was the first time, since Apple Pay was introduced, that I 
>> was not able to complete a transaction, successfully.
>> I called another friend of mine, who lives a couple of states 
>> away, and he, too, was unsuccessful in completing a 
>> terminal-based Apple Pay transaction.
>> So, I suggest that you wait a few days and give it another try, 
>> say, sometime after Monday.
>> Just so you know, a few minutes ago, I did successfully reload my 
>> Starbucks card, via Apple Pay.  Keep in mind that doing so d

Re: More About Buying My First Mac

[Donna Goodin]

I'm still not used to it, and I've had my MBP since August.  I much prefer the 
keyboard on my 2013 MBA.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2018, at 2:12 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>  
> Yeah I find it to flat and very little definition
>  
> I spent a couple of hours using one yesterday and it really takes a lot of 
> getting use to.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2018 12:37 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: More About Buying My First Mac
>  
> I agree with Simon here.  I am not a fan of the MBP keyboard.  I find it more 
> difficult to orient to the keyboard, and I make many more typos than I did on 
> my 2013 Air..
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Mar 5, 2018, at 1:32 AM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
>  
> Hi Rhonda,
>  
> I’ve only had a shortish time with the pro mac book with touch bar so can’t 
> really say a lot other than, go to a store if you can and have a look at one 
> to get the feel of them.
>  
> One of the things I’m not currently a fan of is the flatness of the keyboards 
> in the new mac books be they the new Macbook 12 inch or the 13 and 15 inch 
> mac book pros,
>  
> Give them a try and see which one feels better for you then go back to apple 
> and price what your after.
>  
> Good luck.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Rhanda Hasley
> Sent: Monday, 5 March 2018 5:32 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: More About Buying My First Mac
>  
> Hi All,
>  
> Thank you for your very informative and helpful responses to my questions. I 
> can definitely see the advantages of buying an Air, but as has been 
> mentioned, Mac will discontinue this model at some point.  I mostly plan on 
> doing e-mail, web surfing, and word processing, but might also like to do 
> some recording, and utilize this computer to do work from home.  I also like 
> to chat on line with Skype and maybe other programs.  For years, I’ve used a 
> Windows desktop and would like a machine that’s powerful, yet portable.
>  
> Whether I get the Air or the Pro, would there be any other advantages to a 
> unit with a touch bar, other than easy insertion of emojis and Touch ID?  
> That’s something I’ve not gotten into yet, and honestly don’t think I’d be 
> doing it too much.  A couple of friends have indicated that units with touch 
> bars have a better processing speed, but is that really significant or 
> necessary?  In looking at Macs recently, I notice that ones without touch 
> bars have the function keys that we’re used to on Windows computers, but the 
> other ones use the FN and other keys to simulate these functions. 
>  
> Will keep looking, but meanwhile, thanks for your valuable input.  Should you 
> have any other questions, please let me know.
>  
> Rhanda
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Iphone question

[Stacey Robinson]

Hi,
Can you use an iPhone like an iPod without a phone number?
Can you purchase things from iTunes etc.
Blessings,

Stacey Robinson

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Re: Iphone question

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi
Yes you can, no problem, from time to time it might bug you for not having a 
Sim card or because you have no cell signal, but further than that no problem. 
If I may ask why do you want to do this? Surely getting iPod will be much 
cheaper, even getting a iPad with Wi-Fi only.

Nickus
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Re: Iphone question

[Stacey Robinson]

I already have an iPhone and want something more basic.

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> On Mar 6, 2018, at 9:06 AM, Nickus de Vos  wrote:
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> Hi
> Yes you can, no problem, from time to time it might bug you for not having a 
> Sim card or because you have no cell signal, but further than that no 
> problem. If I may ask why do you want to do this? Surely getting iPod will be 
> much cheaper, even getting a iPad with Wi-Fi only.
> 
> Nickus
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Re: Updating Apple watch, do others have problems?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I like my watch how it is. I am thinking of calling care support to see what 
they say about my watch not updating. As before it took five or six weeks for 
an update to come through.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 6 Mar 2018, at 8:35 am, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kawal,
> 
> I must admit my watch does take time to update,
> But I would suggest if it's not going to be a big issue,
> Reset the watch to factory defaults and set it up again.
> 
> Just to make sure things are all ok with the setup.
> 
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Updating Apple watch, do others have problems?
> 
> Oh yes, I definitely have it on charge. It’s the iPhone that isn’t updating 
> the Watch I don’t think. I am not sure.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 5 Mar 2018, at 7:34 am, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Do you have the watch on power / charger when your doing this?
>> 
>> I do know it takes a longer time to update the watch os but that's why I do 
>> the update over night and my watch is on charge 
>> 
>> But still yeah it's a couple of hours at most to update the watch last time 
>> I did it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Monday, 5 March 2018 6:00 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries 
>> Subject: Updating Apple watch, do others have problems?
>> 
>> Hi All.
>> 
>> Over a week now on my I phone, my watch app says one new item.  I guess that 
>> it is an update for my Apple watch.
>> 
>> Let's say some time ago there was another apple watch update but it tooke a 
>> week to get the update on my watch because the damn thing wouldn't download 
>> to my watch as there was nothing showing even though the app said one new 
>> item.
>> 
>> I am seriously pissed off now because I can't download and update this apple 
>> three generation.
>> 
>> I don't mean to be rude but please just understand that I can get my I phone 
>> watch app open, go to general software update and it keeps saying in 
>> progress but nothing happens and after 5 minutes the phone locks and no 
>> update for my watch.  So what is one meant to do?
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Iphone question

[E.T.]

   Over wifi yes. But why another iPhone? Get an iPod touch or a 
wifi-only iPad.


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Hi,
Can you use an iPhone like an iPod without a phone number?
Can you purchase things from iTunes etc.
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Re: Unidentified Network

[E.T.]

   Not sure but I think the disconnect/connect network adapter in 
Fusion was the fix. Time will tell. Its working fine today.


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What's the ip address of the host machine and is it the same range as your 
routers address?

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Subject: Unidentified Network

 Latest VMware Fusion running Windows 7 VM. Lately I am getting "Unidentified 
Network no internet access" after I load the VM. Today I finally disconnected the 
network adapter then reconnecting it. Before I did this, I had run diagnostics in Windows 
network settings which indicated something about the LAN's IP address. How might I fix 
this?


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Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID

[E.T.]

   Apparently it ia according to what others have reported. And in my 
case there is no minimum, I have to enter the PIN every time. Oh well.


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On 3/6/2018 12:42 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

We have something similar called pay wave,
  No pin is needed until your paying over 80 dollars ,
  Could it be a similar feature.

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Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2018 2:25 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID

Kawal,
 Thanks. Well I wonder if its bank specific. I entered all that 
information. I went into Wallet to see if there was something else but did not 
see where to edit the card details, but did not spend a lot of time looking.

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On 3/5/2018 3:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi E T.

You don't need to enter your debit card pin when you do Apple Pay.

Did you set up your card details in Apple Pay to start with which you can find 
in your Wallet as you need to add your CSV number and your long card number if 
I remember rightly to get this going.  Once you enter those details, then the 
server will varify your card and you will get a text from your Bank thanking 
you for setting up Apple Pay and so on.

Do check your wallet first before you use Apple Pay again on your I phone 8.

Kawal.


On 5 Mar 2018, at 21:08, E.T.  wrote:

This worked for me today. Just curious that I still needed to
enter the PIN for my debit card. If the terminal has no physical
keypad, its no good anyway,

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E.T.,
Remember, if you have everything setup correctly, the only time you will need 
to enter your phone's pass code is when you reboot the phone.
Mark
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On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 5:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID
Alex,
  Thanks. Remember, this is all new to me. I only just got Touch ID and 
Apple Pay set up in the last couple days. Plus the passcode which until now I 
never used. I will try this again on Monday.
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On 3/3/2018 6:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

In general, the process is simply:

* from the lock screen or notifications center, press the home
button twice
* your default card will be selected, but you can choose a
different card if you have one
* hold the phone near the reader
* touch the home button to authenticate, or do what I do and just
leave your finger there while holding the phone to the reader
* after a moment, the phone vibrates and chimes, and you're done

Really, stepping through it like that makes it sound longer and
harder than it is. Double press the home button, hold the phone to
the reader, and rest a finger on the home button for Touch ID. The
only way it gets easier is if you're using an Apple Watch. I hope
this explains things some, and your next attempt goes more smoothly.

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On Mar 3, 2018, at 00:34, E.T. mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Mark,
I did not get that far. What I ran into was, simply put, not
knowing yet how to make the transaction. And I did not have the
luxury of keeping the checker waiting.

I expected to use Touch ID but was prompted for the passcode.

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On 3/2/2018 9:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello E.T.,
Your question is too broad in order to elicit a meaningful anser.
However, I can tell you that today, both a friend and I were
unsuccessful in getting Apple Pay to work at three different
terminals at three different businesses, on each of our phones.
I have an 8 Plus and she has a 7 Plus.
We surmised that the system was down or working very slowly.
This was the first time, since Apple Pay was introduced, that I
was not able to complete a transaction, successfully.
I called another friend of mine, who lives a couple of states
away, and he, too, was unsuccessful in completing a
terminal-based Apple Pay transaction.
So, I suggest that you wait a few days and give it another try,
say, sometime after Monday.
Just so you know, a few minutes ago, I did successfully reload my
Starbucks card, via Apple Pay.  Keep in mind that doing so did
not require a physical terminal, as did my previous attempts, earlier today.
Mark
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Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID

[E.T.]

   Sadly, even $5 requires a PIN. Bummer.

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On 3/5/2018 7:01 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
It is also bank and cost specific. I have one card which requires a pin 
when the amount is over $80, and another card from a different bank 
which requires a pin at $100. Both are on Apple Pay.


Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 6 Mar 2018, at 12:19, Alex Hall > wrote:


In my experience, this is location-specific. Ideally, no, you don't 
need to enter a PIN. But places still require it, such as Best Buy 
where I live. No one can tell me why, but I gather it's something to 
do with policy, or maybe the payment terminals in use. It's a pain, 
considering what NFC payments are supposed to let you do, but it seems 
to be up to the business to choose whether they require a PIN. Some, 
sadly, decide to.


--
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On Mar 5, 2018, at 20:25, E.T. > wrote:


Kawal,
  Thanks. Well I wonder if its bank specific. I entered all that 
information. I went into Wallet to see if there was something else 
but did not see where to edit the card details, but did not spend a 
lot of time looking.


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On 3/5/2018 3:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi E T.
You don't need to enter your debit card pin when you do Apple Pay.
Did you set up your card details in Apple Pay to start with which 
you can find in your Wallet as you need to add your CSV number and 
your long card number if I remember rightly to get this going.  Once 
you enter those details, then the server will varify your card and 
you will get a text from your Bank thanking you for setting up Apple 
Pay and so on.
Do check your wallet first before you use Apple Pay again on your I 
phone 8.

Kawal.
On 5 Mar 2018, at 21:08, E.T. > wrote:


  This worked for me today. Just curious that I still needed to 
enter the PIN for my debit card. If the terminal has no physical 
keypad, its no good anyway,


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On 3/3/2018 6:09 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

E.T.,
Remember, if you have everything setup correctly, the only time 
you will need to enter your phone's pass code is when you reboot 
the phone.

Mark
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.

Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 5:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 


Subject: Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID
Alex,
Thanks. Remember, this is all new to me. I only just got Touch 
ID and Apple Pay set up in the last couple days. Plus the passcode 
which until now I never used. I will try this again on Monday.

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On 3/3/2018 6:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

In general, the process is simply:

* from the lock screen or notifications center, press the home button
twice
* your default card will be selected, but you can choose a different
card if you have one
* hold the phone near the reader
* touch the home button to authenticate, or do what I do and just
leave your finger there while holding the phone to the reader
* after a moment, the phone vibrates and chimes, and you're done

Really, stepping through it like that makes it sound longer and 
harder

than it is. Double press the home button, hold the phone to the
reader, and rest a finger on the home button for Touch ID. The only
way it gets easier is if you're using an Apple Watch. I hope this
explains things some, and your next attempt goes more smoothly.

--
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On Mar 3, 2018, at 00:34, E.T. 

> wrote:

Mark,
  I did not get that far. What I ran into was, simply put, not
knowing yet how to make the transaction. And I did not have the
luxury of keeping the checker waiting.

  I expected to use Touch ID but was prompted for the passcode.

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Hello E.T.,
Your question is too broad in order to elicit a meaningful anser.
However, I can tell you that today, both a friend and I were
unsuccessful in getting Apple Pay to work at three di

Re: Iphone question

[Stacey Robinson]

Thanks ET.
I’m looking into that.
Blessings,

Stacey Robinson

stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Mar 6, 2018, at 9:56 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Over wifi yes. But why another iPhone? Get an iPod touch or a wifi-only 
> iPad.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 3/6/2018 5:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Can you use an iPhone like an iPod without a phone number?
>> Can you purchase things from iTunes etc.
>> Blessings,
>> Stacey Robinson
>> stacey...@bellsouth.net 
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A Quick Question About Customizing iOS Native Calendar App Alerts

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

When I create a new appointment in the native iOS Calendar app, on my 8
Plus, there does not seem to be a way of customizing the appointment
reminder alerts.  

For example, I would like an alert reminder for 4 days.  However, in the
app, the options go from 2 days to 1 week.

Question, is there a way to customize the appointment reminder alert from
within the native iOS Calendar app, itself?

I ask this because, if I create an iCloud calendar appointment via Microsoft
Outlook, I can customize the alerts to anytime I like.

Sometimes, I'll create the appointment on my phone, when out-and-about, then
modify it, later, when I'm back at home, using Outlook on my Windows PC.  It
would be nice to skip this second step, if possible.  

Just so you know, the iOS app honors any alert settings set via MS Outlook.

Thank you,

Mark

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Re: Updating Apple watch, do others have problems?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Well everyone, I have finally been able to update my watch.  I was about to 
delete the watch app on my phone and thought I would check one more time in the 
software update and there it was.  Talk about waiting for over a week for an 
update.

Kawal.

> On 6 Mar 2018, at 15:50, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I like my watch how it is. I am thinking of calling care support to see what 
> they say about my watch not updating. As before it took five or six weeks for 
> an update to come through.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 6 Mar 2018, at 8:35 am, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kawal,
>> 
>> I must admit my watch does take time to update,
>> But I would suggest if it's not going to be a big issue,
>> Reset the watch to factory defaults and set it up again.
>> 
>> Just to make sure things are all ok with the setup.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2018 11:55 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Updating Apple watch, do others have problems?
>> 
>> Oh yes, I definitely have it on charge. It’s the iPhone that isn’t updating 
>> the Watch I don’t think. I am not sure.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 5 Mar 2018, at 7:34 am, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do you have the watch on power / charger when your doing this?
>>> 
>>> I do know it takes a longer time to update the watch os but that's why I do 
>>> the update over night and my watch is on charge 
>>> 
>>> But still yeah it's a couple of hours at most to update the watch last time 
>>> I did it.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>>> Sent: Monday, 5 March 2018 6:00 AM
>>> To: Macvisionaries 
>>> Subject: Updating Apple watch, do others have problems?
>>> 
>>> Hi All.
>>> 
>>> Over a week now on my I phone, my watch app says one new item.  I guess 
>>> that it is an update for my Apple watch.
>>> 
>>> Let's say some time ago there was another apple watch update but it tooke a 
>>> week to get the update on my watch because the damn thing wouldn't download 
>>> to my watch as there was nothing showing even though the app said one new 
>>> item.
>>> 
>>> I am seriously pissed off now because I can't download and update this 
>>> apple three generation.
>>> 
>>> I don't mean to be rude but please just understand that I can get my I 
>>> phone watch app open, go to general software update and it keeps saying in 
>>> progress but nothing happens and after 5 minutes the phone locks and no 
>>> update for my watch.  So what is one meant to do?
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Voice Over announcing incorrect position of CSS elements

[James AUSTIN]

Hi folks

I am in the middle of building a small static website and have run up against a 
little problem with Voice Over and the screen-reader-text CSS class. The 
screen-reader-text class allows authors to hide information useful to Screen 
Reader users from those who do not need it.

 On encountering the first link in the main body of the page, VO behaves as 
expected; announcing the screen-reader-text 'external' after the link is read 
out. With all other links though, the screen-reader-text is announced prior to 
the link being read. Where screen-reader-text is used in the navigation menu,  
VO initially announces it before the link is read, but reverts to expected 
behaviour within the navigation menu thereafter.
 
Has anyone encountered this and if so, discovered a work around please? I am 
running macOS High Sierra with all latest updates

Thanks

Best wishes
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Re: Voice Over announcing incorrect position of CSS elements

[Jonathan Cohn]

Not entirely clear on which system you are testing with.

On the Macintosh, if one is in web group navigation instead of Dom navigation 
(as set in the VoiceOver Utility) then often times VoiceOver reads things in 
the incorrect order. For example when asking VoiceOver to read a paragraph with 
a link in it, the link might get read after the paragraph rather than inline. 


I haven’t really paid much attention to how text added by CSS is being handled. 
But perhaps you are running into a similar situation.
  
> On Mar 6, 2018, at 4:38 PM, James AUSTIN  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> I am in the middle of building a small static website and have run up against 
> a little problem with Voice Over and the screen-reader-text CSS class. The 
> screen-reader-text class allows authors to hide information useful to Screen 
> Reader users from those who do not need it.
> 
> On encountering the first link in the main body of the page, VO behaves as 
> expected; announcing the screen-reader-text 'external' after the link is read 
> out. With all other links though, the screen-reader-text is announced prior 
> to the link being read. Where screen-reader-text is used in the navigation 
> menu,  VO initially announces it before the link is read, but reverts to 
> expected behaviour within the navigation menu thereafter.
> 
> Has anyone encountered this and if so, discovered a work around please? I am 
> running macOS High Sierra with all latest updates
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Best wishes
> James
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having mac not go to sleep when closing lid?

[The wolf]

Hello how do I tell the mac to do nothing when I close the lid?

it keeps wanting to go to sleep on me.

Hank


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Re: having mac not go to sleep when closing lid?

[E.T.]

   System prefs, Energy.

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   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/6/2018 8:30 PM, The wolf wrote:

Hello how do I tell the mac to do nothing when I close the lid?

it keeps wanting to go to sleep on me.

Hank




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RE: having mac not go to sleep when closing lid?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Hank,

Are you certain that you do not want the Mac to go to sleep upon closing the 
lid?  

Were I you, I would not want the screen to remain active when in physical 
contact with the keyboard.  The heat buildup could cause damage to the unit 
and, in fact, may become a fire hazard if the ambient temperature is too high.  

For your safety and the safety of the unit, I strongly recommend that you 
either don't close the lid or, continue to let closing the lid, put the Mac to 
sleep.  There is a definite reason why having the Mac go to sleep is the 
default behavior of the OS.

Mark

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of The wolf
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 8:30 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: having mac not go to sleep when closing lid?

Hello how do I tell the mac to do nothing when I close the lid?

it keeps wanting to go to sleep on me.

Hank


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Re: having mac not go to sleep when closing lid?

[The wolf]

Hello

I was unaware of that

thank you for letting me know

I will leave everything at there defaults

Hank

On 3/6/2018 10:40 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Hank,

Are you certain that you do not want the Mac to go to sleep upon closing the 
lid?

Were I you, I would not want the screen to remain active when in physical 
contact with the keyboard.  The heat buildup could cause damage to the unit 
and, in fact, may become a fire hazard if the ambient temperature is too high.

For your safety and the safety of the unit, I strongly recommend that you 
either don't close the lid or, continue to let closing the lid, put the Mac to 
sleep.  There is a definite reason why having the Mac go to sleep is the 
default behavior of the OS.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of The wolf
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 8:30 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: having mac not go to sleep when closing lid?

Hello how do I tell the mac to do nothing when I close the lid?

it keeps wanting to go to sleep on me.

Hank




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How to customize your Calendar settings on iPhone and iPad | iMore

[M. Taylor]

How to customize your Calendar settings on iPhone and iPad

With Apple's built-in Calendar app, you have lots of customization options
to make it work the way you need it to.
By Lory Gil, 19 Jan 2018

The built-in Calendar app on iPhone and iPad is not only Apple's specially
designed event tracker, it's also a gateway to many other productivity apps
that sync with it to provide useful information for your daily life. Even if
you use a different calendar service, like Google or Microsoft, you can link
those services to your Calendar app to get the most out of your daily
planning. Apple's Calendar app has lots of dedicated customizations that you
can use to help make it work for you. Here's how to set them up the way you
want.
.   How to set up calendar accounts
.   How to change the default time zone for calendar alerts
.   How to select an alternate calendar type
.   How to turn week numbers on and off
.   How to turn invitee decliners on and off
.   How to manage calendar syncing
.   How to set default alert times
.   How to set the start of your week
.   How to set a default calendar
.   How to turn location suggestions on and off
.   How to turn Events Found in Apps on and off

How to setup calendar accounts
Whether you're using iCloud, Gmail, Outlook, or a dedicated IMAP account,
you can set it up to sync with the built-in Calendar app on iPhone and iPad.
Note: If you've already set up your email account, you may have already
completed these steps.
1.  Launch the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.
2.  Tap Accounts & Passwords.
3.  Tap Add Account.
4.  Select an account service like iCloud, Google, or Outlook.
5.  Sign in with your account login credentials.
6.  Turn on the Calendars switch to sync that account's calendar.

How to change the default time zone for calendar alerts
By default, your iPhone and iPad will automatically change time zones as you
move about the country. However, you may want your calendar information to
stay in the time zone you live or work in. If you want to change the default
time zone, you can override it in your Calendar's settings.
1.  Launch the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.
2.  Tap Calendar.
3.  Tap Time Zone Override.
4.  Turn on the Time Zone Override switch.
5.  Tap Time Zone.
6.  Search for the city you want to change the time zone to.
7.  Tap the city to change the default time zone for your Calendar app.

How to select an alternate calendar type
If you usually follow the Chinese, Hebrew, or Islamic calendar, you can make
that your default calendar type instead of the western one.
1.  Launch the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.
2.  Tap Calendar.
3.  Tap Alternate Calendars.
4.  Tap Chinese, Hebrew, or Islamic.

How to turn week numbers on and off
By default, the Calendar app numbers each week in the year. For some, this
is a useful way to quickly see how many weeks have gone buy, but for others,
it's unnecessary information. You can turn this feature off or on to your
liking.
1.  Launch the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.
2.  Tap Calendar.
3.  Turn the Week Numbers switch off or on.

How to turn invitee decliners on and off
If you're big on inviting others to events, you may want to know everyone
that has confirmed and declined the invitation. You may, however, not have
any interest in who is not attending your event. You can turn this feature
off or on to your liking.
1.  Launch the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.
2.  Tap Calendar.
3.  Turn the Show Invitee Declines switch off or on.

How to manage calendar syncing
In order to keep data usage and internal storage to a minimum, your iPhone
and iPad, by default, only sync back one month. If you're likely to be
looking for older event information from your various calendars, you can
change how far back your accounts are synced.
1.  Launch the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.
2.  Tap Calendar.
3.  Tap Sync.
4.  Tap the time frame you want to sync back to.

How to set default alert times
You can specify what time you want to receive an alert for an event on your
calendar. This does not override any events that you have manually selected
a notification time. It's for default event notifications for Birthdays,
timed events, and all-day events
1.  Launch the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.
2.  Tap Calendar.
3.  Tap Default Alert Times.
4.  Select the alert you want to set a default time for.
5.  Select the time you want to receive the alert.

How to set a reminder to leave on time
You can also enable the ability to receive an alert to remind you what time
you should leave in order to make it to your event based on typical travel
time for events where you have an address included.
1.  Launch the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.
2.  Tap Calendar.
3.  Tap Default Alert Times.
4.  Turn the Time to Leave swi

Re: Urgent please, Voice over acting strange in safari

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi Jonathan:
Thanks so much yes, vo+q, exactly.
Thanks for helping


> On Mar 5, 2018, at 5:29 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> Perhaps you toggled the single key navigation while using QuickNav. I believe 
> the keystroke to change this is VO-Q, but I can’t check right now. 
> 
>> On Mar 5, 2018, at 3:17 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> don’t know what’s going wrong, but my Voice over acting so strange inside 
>> safari.
>> 
>> i could use the quick nav on, and use my H to move to next wedding etc, but 
>> now, nothing is working of these buttons,
>> but when the quick nav is of, i can use vo+cmd+h for instance to go to next 
>> wedding, so, what is wrong?
>> the most big issue now is that in text fields, i can not enter any text, 
>> when using the quick nav off, don’t know why.
>> Please help
>> Thanks in advance 
>> 
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