Re: The complete list of Amazon Alexa Commands, So Far, CNET

[Simon Fogarty]

So the echo doesn’t have this hub? 
Will the echo+ work with all home devices such as say my samsung smart tv? I 
know the echo and the dot don’t without something else

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3/03/2018, at 6:09 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Simon,
> 
> The Echo Plus includes a Smart Hub so one can control home devices.
> 
> Mark
> 
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> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 8:10 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: The complete list of Amazon Alexa Commands, So Far, CNET
> 
> What's the difference between the echo and the echo plus?
> 
> I have seen the dot, and for it's size it's pretty impressive
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 February 2018 5:27 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: The complete list of Amazon Alexa Commands, So Far, CNET
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As this is not an Amazon Echo support community, I have no intention of 
> flooding the list with Amazon Echo articles.  
> 
> However, given that the Amazon Echo products can and do greatly enhance the 
> lives of so many, including those of us who are blind or low vision, and 
> given that all of the features mentioned in the following article are 
> completely VoiceOver accessible from within the iOS app, I have decided to 
> post it here.  
> 
> If you find that you would like to see any or all of the features listed in 
> this article made available to Siri/HomePod, consider sending a 
> suggestion/request to Apple.  
> 
> Please keep in mind that the following list of commands is in no way 
> comprehensive.  For example, the article does not mention the native onboard 
> audio equalizer that is now available.  As a result, I can simply instruct 
> Alexa to increase or decrease the bass or treble levels on my Echo Plus.
> Another example is that the article does not mention that one can use Alexa 
> to create new custom Pandora radio stations.  In effect, one can use Alexa to 
> completely control both Pandora and iHeart Radio without the need to ever 
> open the iOS apps.  All one need do is to simply link their respective 
> accounts to Amazon Alexa.
> 
> While the Echo Plus sells for around $150 in a retail store, it can be found 
> for as low as $100, online.  The Echo Dot, at Best Buy, yesterday was selling 
> for approximately $35. 
> 
> Enjoy and I hope you find the information useful.
> 
> Mark
> 
> The complete list of Alexa commands so far Here are all the things you can 
> ask Alexa to do. (Dad jokes included.) By Taylor Martin, December 18, 2017 
> 3:20 PM PST
> 
> Amazon's (L to R) Tap, Echo and Echo Dot speakers do so much with the Alexa 
> assistant.
> Amazon's voice assistant, Alexa, is infiltrating your home, your beach trips 
> and even your ride to work. Now that there are many ways to interact with 
> Alexa -- with the Tap, Echo, Echo Dot, Echo Look, Echo Show, Dash Wand and 
> the Amazon Fire TV -- you might find yourself talking to her more often.
> 
> The list of commands is expanding rapidly, as is the number of third-party 
> services and devices that Alexa officially (and unofficially) supports.
> Here is the (almost) complete list of Amazon Alexa commands.
> 
> Summoning Alexa
> By default, Amazon's connected speakers have the same wake word. All you have 
> to do to queue up a request is say, "Alexa." In the Amazon Alexa mobile 
> application or at echo.amazon.com, you can change the wake word to either 
> Amazon, Echo or Computer.
> 
> If you have an Amazon Tap, Dash Wand or the Amazon Fire TV voice remote, 
> you'll need to press a button to wake Alexa.
> 
> Amazon updated the Tap with a hands-free mode that you must enable in the 
> settings. The only wake word available to the Amazon Tap is Alexa.
> 
> Editors' note: Originally published on April 13, 2016, this article is 
> regularly updated to include new Alexa commands, features and information. 
> The complete list of Alexa commands
> 
> The list of Alexa commands is expansive and grows with every new service or 
> device it supports. Alexa isn't perfect, but it's pretty great at 
> understanding natural language, so you don't always have to speak the 
> commands exactly as you see them below. Many commands work when worded 
> several different ways or even with words omitted.
> 
> When you consider the possible third-party commands through Skills, 
> essentially the apps of Amazon's Alexa, the list goes on even further. To 
> learn what individual skills are capable of, visit the skill's page from the 
> Amazon Alexa app or alexa.amazon.com.
> Here are all the native Alexa commands.
> Basic commands
> •Ask for help: "Alexa, help."
> •Have a conversation: "Alexa, let's chat."
> •Mute or unmute: "Alexa, mute" or, "Alexa, unmute."
> •Stop or pause: "Alexa, stop" or, "Alexa, shut up."
> •

Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID

[Alex Hall]

In general, the process is simply:

* from the lock screen or notifications center, press the home button twice
* your default card will be selected, but you can choose a different card if 
you have one
* hold the phone near the reader
* touch the home button to authenticate, or do what I do and just leave your 
finger there while holding the phone to the reader
* after a moment, the phone vibrates and chimes, and you're done

Really, stepping through it like that makes it sound longer and harder than it 
is. Double press the home button, hold the phone to the reader, and rest a 
finger on the home button for Touch ID. The only way it gets easier is if 
you're using an Apple Watch. I hope this explains things some, and your next 
attempt goes more smoothly.

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> On Mar 3, 2018, at 00:34, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Mark,
>   I did not get that far. What I ran into was, simply put, not knowing yet 
> how to make the transaction. And I did not have the luxury of keeping the 
> checker waiting.
> 
>   I expected to use Touch ID but was prompted for the passcode.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 3/2/2018 9:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello E.T.,
>> Your question is too broad in order to elicit a meaningful anser.
>> However, I can tell you that today, both a friend and I were unsuccessful in 
>> getting Apple Pay to work at three different terminals at three different 
>> businesses, on each of our phones.  I have an 8 Plus and she has a 7 Plus.
>> We surmised that the system was down or working very slowly.  This was the 
>> first time, since Apple Pay was introduced, that I was not able to complete 
>> a transaction, successfully.
>> I called another friend of mine, who lives a couple of states away, and he, 
>> too, was unsuccessful in completing a terminal-based Apple Pay transaction.
>> So, I suggest that you wait a few days and give it another try, say, 
>> sometime after Monday.
>> Just so you know, a few minutes ago, I did successfully reload my Starbucks 
>> card, via Apple Pay.  Keep in mind that doing so did not require a physical 
>> terminal, as did my previous attempts, earlier today.
>> Mark
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 5:24 PM
>> To: MacVisionaries
>> Subject: Apple Pay and Touch ID
>> With my 8+ I gave this a try today did not succeed. What settings, and 
>> easiest procedures works here? Thanks.
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Choosing my First MacBook, Air or Pro, and With or Without Touch Bar?

[Rhanda Hasley]

Hi Everyone,

 

I'm a long-time PC user with JAWS, but am now on the verge of buying my
first Mac.  For several years, I've also been an iPhone  user so am familiar
with VoiceOver, even though I realize the Mac is different and involves a
learning curve.  However, I love learning new skills so that doesn't bother
me.  In fact, I've been studying various materials including Janet
Ingbergt's books, and have looked at different Mac models.  I definitely
want a portable Macbook, as opposed to the Imacs, but am wanting various
perspectives on whether to get the Pro or the Air, as well as with or
without touch bars. I'm leaning toward getting a Pro, but know of many
people like the Air and are just as productive with it.  I've also read that
getting one without the touch bar would be less expensive.  In your opinion,
is the touch bar necessary or advantageous?  Or would I do just fine without
it?  Whichever way I go with this, I'm trying to get the most for my money
and want   a computer that will last me for as long as possible.

 

Thanks much in advance for your perspectives.

 

Rhanda

 

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Re: Choosing my First MacBook, Air or Pro, and With or Without Touch Bar?

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Randa,
A lot depends on what you want to do on the computer.  If you are just doing 
basic things like email, word processing, internet browsing, playing music, 
etc. then the Air is a good computer.   

The Touch Bar is a personal choice.  I now have a MacBook Pro with a Touch Bar, 
but I don’t use the Touch Bar that much. I just use keyboard commands most of 
the time.  Since you are an iPhone user you should have no difficulty  with the 
Touch Bar.

If the Air will meet your needs then I would go with that.  The Touch Bar is a 
nice feature but it’s a personal choice as to whether you want to spend the 
extra money.  Anything you can do on the Touch Bar can be done with keyboard 
commands.

There are a lot of very helpful people on this list to answer your questions.  
Glad you read my book.

Best,
Janet
> On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Rhanda Hasley  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
>  
> I’m a long-time PC user with JAWS, but am now on the verge of buying my first 
> Mac.  For several years, I’ve also been an iPhone  user so am familiar with 
> VoiceOver, even though I realize the Mac is different and involves a learning 
> curve.  However, I love learning new skills so that doesn’t bother me.  In 
> fact, I’ve been studying various materials including Janet Ingbergt’s books, 
> and have looked at different Mac models.  I definitely want a portable 
> Macbook, as opposed to the Imacs, but am wanting various perspectives on 
> whether to get the Pro or the Air, as well as with or without touch bars. I’m 
> leaning toward getting a Pro, but know of many people like the Air and are 
> just as productive with it.  I’ve also read that getting one without the 
> touch bar would be less expensive.  In your opinion, is the touch bar 
> necessary or advantageous?  Or would I do just fine without it?  Whichever 
> way I go with this, I’m trying to get the most for my money and want   a 
> computer that will last me for as long as possible.
>  
> Thanks much in advance for your perspectives.
>  
> Rhanda
>  
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Re: Choosing my First MacBook, Air or Pro, and With or Without Touch Bar?

[lenron brown]

Touch bar not needed really. I would say go with the pro with out it.
The only weird thing is not having touch id on that one.

On 3/3/18, Janet Ingber  wrote:
> Hi Randa,
> A lot depends on what you want to do on the computer.  If you are just doing
> basic things like email, word processing, internet browsing, playing music,
> etc. then the Air is a good computer.
>
> The Touch Bar is a personal choice.  I now have a MacBook Pro with a Touch
> Bar, but I don’t use the Touch Bar that much. I just use keyboard commands
> most of the time.  Since you are an iPhone user you should have no
> difficulty  with the Touch Bar.
>
> If the Air will meet your needs then I would go with that.  The Touch Bar is
> a nice feature but it’s a personal choice as to whether you want to spend
> the extra money.  Anything you can do on the Touch Bar can be done with
> keyboard commands.
>
> There are a lot of very helpful people on this list to answer your
> questions.  Glad you read my book.
>
> Best,
> Janet
>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Rhanda Hasley 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I’m a long-time PC user with JAWS, but am now on the verge of buying my
>> first Mac.  For several years, I’ve also been an iPhone  user so am
>> familiar with VoiceOver, even though I realize the Mac is different and
>> involves a learning curve.  However, I love learning new skills so that
>> doesn’t bother me.  In fact, I’ve been studying various materials
>> including Janet Ingbergt’s books, and have looked at different Mac models.
>>  I definitely want a portable Macbook, as opposed to the Imacs, but am
>> wanting various perspectives on whether to get the Pro or the Air, as well
>> as with or without touch bars. I’m leaning toward getting a Pro, but know
>> of many people like the Air and are just as productive with it.  I’ve also
>> read that getting one without the touch bar would be less expensive.  In
>> your opinion, is the touch bar necessary or advantageous?  Or would I do
>> just fine without it?  Whichever way I go with this, I’m trying to get the
>> most for my money and want   a computer that will last me for as long as
>> possible.
>>
>> Thanks much in advance for your perspectives.
>>
>> Rhanda
>>
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Re: Portable Preferences and VO's activity message

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi alex:

I’m the one who post this thread,
am trying now, and hope it will solve my problem.
Thanks so much 

> On Mar 2, 2018, at 5:13 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> A few days ago, there was a thread on this list about VO constantly saying 
> "Voiceover settings activity" to the point where macOS was becoming 
> frustrating to use. A suggestion was made to stop using portable preferences. 
> I'm not sure how the original poster got on, but I tried that suggestion this 
> morning. I stopped using portable preferences, and configured VO from 
> scratch. So far, I've not had a single instance of a problem that used to 
> happen once every few minutes. If you find this problem, try not using 
> portable preferences. It worked for me. Thanks again to the person who 
> suggested it. That prefs disk image has lived in my iCloud Drive or Dropbox 
> so long, I'd almost forgotten I was running on it.
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Re: sending a big attachment on mail, how i know that it finished?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

don’t know if i can find an answer for this, but need to know the answer please
Thanks in advance 

> On Mar 1, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> This is the 1st time for me to send a 6 MB file, but i discovered that the 
> mail was not sent.
> i discovered that i must leave my mail application opened til it uploads the  
> file. but the question is that, how can i know that it finish sending my 
> email?
> Tia

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Fubo TV

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:H

as anyone tried this cord cutting option?

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli  
www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

 

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Re: Choosing my First MacBook, Air or Pro, and With or Without Touch Bar?

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi there
As already said it all depends on what you use your computer for, are you a 
casual user as in internet, email, word processing, music etc. or are you a 
power user using CPU intensive applications, running virtual machines etc?

Right now if buying new I personally won’t consider the Macbook Air because it 
hasn’t really been refreshed in quite some time.
If not looking for something powerful like the Macbook Pro, then rather look at 
the 12 inch Macbook which in my eyes will be a better option than the Air. With 
that being said the 12 inch Macbook is also due to get a refresh, since it’s 
also esencially still the first generation.
At some point Apple will probably discontinue the Macbook Air entirely and only 
have the option of a 12 inch Macbook or Macbook Pro.

As for the touch bar if you decide to go with the Macbook Pro, I don’t have a 
lot of experience with the touch bar since I don’t own a MBP with one, but from 
what I read and the few times I used a newer MBP, the touch bar isn’t really 
useful for a voiceover user and it’s much easier having physical function keys 
than to mess around on a touch surface to find a key.

If I have to upgrade my 2015 MBP now,, I’ll go with the touch bar however, but 
because of the more USB-C ports on the Macbook’s with the touch bar and not 
because I specifically want a touch bar on my laptop. Most of the time when I’m 
in the office, I anyway use a full size USB keyboard with my MBP, so for 80% of 
the time I won’t even have to think of using the touch bar.

All in all it depends on what you use your computer for and of course also 
budget.
> On 03 Mar 2018, at 20:10, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> Touch bar not needed really. I would say go with the pro with out it.
> The only weird thing is not having touch id on that one.
> 
> On 3/3/18, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>> Hi Randa,
>> A lot depends on what you want to do on the computer.  If you are just doing
>> basic things like email, word processing, internet browsing, playing music,
>> etc. then the Air is a good computer.
>> 
>> The Touch Bar is a personal choice.  I now have a MacBook Pro with a Touch
>> Bar, but I don’t use the Touch Bar that much. I just use keyboard commands
>> most of the time.  Since you are an iPhone user you should have no
>> difficulty  with the Touch Bar.
>> 
>> If the Air will meet your needs then I would go with that.  The Touch Bar is
>> a nice feature but it’s a personal choice as to whether you want to spend
>> the extra money.  Anything you can do on the Touch Bar can be done with
>> keyboard commands.
>> 
>> There are a lot of very helpful people on this list to answer your
>> questions.  Glad you read my book.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Janet
>>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Rhanda Hasley 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I’m a long-time PC user with JAWS, but am now on the verge of buying my
>>> first Mac.  For several years, I’ve also been an iPhone  user so am
>>> familiar with VoiceOver, even though I realize the Mac is different and
>>> involves a learning curve.  However, I love learning new skills so that
>>> doesn’t bother me.  In fact, I’ve been studying various materials
>>> including Janet Ingbergt’s books, and have looked at different Mac models.
>>> I definitely want a portable Macbook, as opposed to the Imacs, but am
>>> wanting various perspectives on whether to get the Pro or the Air, as well
>>> as with or without touch bars. I’m leaning toward getting a Pro, but know
>>> of many people like the Air and are just as productive with it.  I’ve also
>>> read that getting one without the touch bar would be less expensive.  In
>>> your opinion, is the touch bar necessary or advantageous?  Or would I do
>>> just fine without it?  Whichever way I go with this, I’m trying to get the
>>> most for my money and want   a computer that will last me for as long as
>>> possible.
>>> 
>>> Thanks much in advance for your perspectives.
>>> 
>>> Rhanda
>>> 
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RE: Choosing my First MacBook, Air or Pro, and With or Without Touch Bar?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:

I don’t believe the touch bar is worth the extra price. If budget is a concern, 
I’d get either the Pro or the new Macbook.

The Air is too old. Wait until June when the mac line is refreshed. You can 
then pick up some good discounts on refurrbed Macs.

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Rhanda Hasley
Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2018 11:49 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Choosing my First MacBook, Air or Pro, and With or Without Touch Bar?

 

Hi Everyone,

 

I’m a long-time PC user with JAWS, but am now on the verge of buying my first 
Mac.  For several years, I’ve also been an iPhone  user so am familiar with 
VoiceOver, even though I realize the Mac is different and involves a learning 
curve.  However, I love learning new skills so that doesn’t bother me.  In 
fact, I’ve been studying various materials including Janet Ingbergt’s books, 
and have looked at different Mac models.  I definitely want a portable Macbook, 
as opposed to the Imacs, but am wanting various perspectives on whether to get 
the Pro or the Air, as well as with or without touch bars. I’m leaning toward 
getting a Pro, but know of many people like the Air and are just as productive 
with it.  I’ve also read that getting one without the touch bar would be less 
expensive.  In your opinion, is the touch bar necessary or advantageous?  Or 
would I do just fine without it?  Whichever way I go with this, I’m trying to 
get the most for my money and want   a computer that will last me for as long 
as possible.

 

Thanks much in advance for your perspectives.

 

Rhanda

 

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Re: Choosing my First MacBook, Air or Pro, and With or Without Touch Bar?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

The only thing I can add to what others have said, is that one thing I find 
much easier with the touch bar is inserting emojis. I also like having touch 
ID.  Other than those two things, I'm not really crazy about the touch bar.  
Much as I love the size and light weight of the Air, I share the concern that 
it will be discontinued.  So, unless you're one of those people who uses emojis 
every five words, I think you'd be just fine with an MBP without a touch bar.

Good luck with your decision, and have fun!
Cheers,
Donna 
> On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
> 
> Hi Randa,
> A lot depends on what you want to do on the computer.  If you are just doing 
> basic things like email, word processing, internet browsing, playing music, 
> etc. then the Air is a good computer.   
> 
> The Touch Bar is a personal choice.  I now have a MacBook Pro with a Touch 
> Bar, but I don’t use the Touch Bar that much. I just use keyboard commands 
> most of the time.  Since you are an iPhone user you should have no difficulty 
>  with the Touch Bar.
> 
> If the Air will meet your needs then I would go with that.  The Touch Bar is 
> a nice feature but it’s a personal choice as to whether you want to spend the 
> extra money.  Anything you can do on the Touch Bar can be done with keyboard 
> commands.
> 
> There are a lot of very helpful people on this list to answer your questions. 
>  Glad you read my book.
> 
> Best,
> Janet
>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Rhanda Hasley  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> I’m a long-time PC user with JAWS, but am now on the verge of buying my 
>> first Mac.  For several years, I’ve also been an iPhone  user so am familiar 
>> with VoiceOver, even though I realize the Mac is different and involves a 
>> learning curve.  However, I love learning new skills so that doesn’t bother 
>> me.  In fact, I’ve been studying various materials including Janet 
>> Ingbergt’s books, and have looked at different Mac models.  I definitely 
>> want a portable Macbook, as opposed to the Imacs, but am wanting various 
>> perspectives on whether to get the Pro or the Air, as well as with or 
>> without touch bars. I’m leaning toward getting a Pro, but know of many 
>> people like the Air and are just as productive with it.  I’ve also read that 
>> getting one without the touch bar would be less expensive.  In your opinion, 
>> is the touch bar necessary or advantageous?  Or would I do just fine without 
>> it?  Whichever way I go with this, I’m trying to get the most for my money 
>> and want   a computer that will last me for as long as possible.
>> 
>> Thanks much in advance for your perspectives.
>> 
>> Rhanda
>> 
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still not able to see Word Count in Pages

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

I have found an option to view character count in Pages, but cannot find a way 
to view the word count.  Can someone provide instructions on how to do this?
TIA,
Donna

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Which Stores Accept Apple Pay? The Always Up-to-Date List (iOS & iPhone), Gadget Hacks

[M. Taylor]

Which Stores Accept Apple Pay? The Always Up-to-Date List

Apple Pay has been available to use in stores and select apps and websites
ever since its first appearance in iOS 8.1. Now that iOS 11 is out, there
are currently ten different iPhone models that support Apple Pay
functionality without the use of an Apple Watch, and the list of partnered
stores that accept Apple Pay has only grown. Here's our always-up-to-date
list to keep you in the know.

Firstly, since iPhone 6 and later iPhone models have NFC-technology built
in, pretty much any shop that has a functioning contactless reader (and
employees who know how it works) will accept Apple Pay, just like they will
Google Wallet and NFC-chipped cards. Just look for the Apple Pay icon or the
universal contactless smart card reader sign on card readers and
point-of-sale (POS) terminals in stores.
 
If you want to see exactly which businesses accept Apple Pay right now,
here's a full list for physical locations, as well as places that do not
accept Apple Pay or have been known to disable it entirely. There are also a
bunch of iOS apps that will accept Apple Pay, so scroll down for that list,
too. And if you need help setting up and using it, check out the bottom of
this guide for some quick walkthroughs.
1.  Stores That Accept Apple Pay Right Now
2.  Stores That Will Accept Apple Pay Soon
3.  Stores That Won't Accept Apple Pay Right Now (Or Ever)
4.  Apps & Websites That Accept Apple Pay Right Now
5.  Apps & Websites That Will Accept Apple Pay Soon
6.  Nonprofits That Accept Apple Pay Donations

1
Stores That Accept Apple Pay Right Now
Here's the official list of Apple Pay partners accepting contactless
payments in stores. While it does not include every shop, restaurant, or
service, you can most definitely be sure that it'll work in these places, as
employees have most likely been thoroughly trained to prepare for the
questions shoppers will have.
Anyone with a "(confirmed)" next to their name are retailers who aren't on
Apple's official list, but who have officially stated they accept Apple Pay.
•   7-Eleven (confirmed in stores only, not at pumps)
•   Ace Hardware
•   Acme Markets
•   Aéropostale
•   Albertsons (confirmed)
•   American Eagle Outfitters
•   Anthropologie
•   Apple Store
•   ARCO (confirmed)
•   B&H SuperStore
•   Babies"R"Us
•   Barneys New York
•   Bashas' Grocery Stores
•   Baskin Robbins
•   Best Buy (though their "Payment Methods" page does not mention it)
•   BevMo!
•   BI-LO
•   Big Lots!
•   BJ's Wholesale Club
•   Bloomingdale's
•   Carrs (confirmed)
•   Casey's General Store
•   Cash & Carry Smart Foodservice
•   Champs Sports
•   Chevron
•   Chevron ExtraMile
•   Chick-fil-A
•   Circle K (confirmed in store only, not at pumps)
•   Coca-Cola Vending Machines
•   Colorado Rockies (confirmed)
•   Corner Store
•   Crate & Barrel
•   Cub
•   Dan's Fresh Market (confirmed)
•   Davis Food & Drug (confirmed)
•   Detroit Tigers (confirmed)
•   Dick's Fresh Market (confirmed)
•   Disney Store
•   Duane Reade by Walgreens
•   Dunkin' Donuts
•   El Pollo Loco (confirmed)
•   Express
•   Farm Fresh Food & Pharmacy
•   Firehouse Subs
•   FoodMaxx
•   Foot Locker
•   Footaction
•   Forever 21 (confirmed)
•   Fuddruckers
•   GameStop
•   GAP
•   Giant
•   Giant
•   Giant Eagle
•   Golden State Warriors
•   Haggen (confirmed)
•   Hannaford
•   Harveys Supermarket
•   Hornbacher's
•   House of Hoops by Foot Locker (confirmed)
•   Jamba Juice
•   J.Crew
•   JCPenney (confirmed)
•   Jersey Mike's Subs
•   JetBlue
•   Jewel-Osco
•   Jimmy John's Gourmet Sandwiches
•   Johnny Rockets (confirmed)
•   Kansas City Royals (confirmed)
•   KFC
•   Kids Foot Locker
•   Kohl's Department Stores
•   Lady Foot Locker
•   LEGO Brand Retail
•   Levi's
•   Lin's Fresh Market
•   L.L. Bean
•   Los Angeles Angels (confirmed)
•   Luby's
•   Lucky Supermarkets
•   Macey's
•   Macy's
•   Martin's
•   Maxx Value Foods (confirmed)
•   McDonald's
•   Meijer
•   New York Yankees (confirmed)
•   Nike
•   Office Depot
•   OfficeMax
•   Old Navy
•   Orlando Magic
•   Panera Bread
•   Pavilions (confirmed)
•   Peet's Coffee
•   Pep Boys
•   Petco
•   PetSmart
•   Phoenix Suns
•   Pizza Hut
•   QuikTrip
•   RadioShack (confirmed)
•   Raley's
•   Ralph's (confirmed)
•   Randalls (confirmed)
•   Rite Aid (confirmed)
•   Rubio's
•   Run by Foot Locker (confirmed)
•   Safeway (confirmed)
•   Save Mart Supermarkets
•   Schucks
•   Sephora
•   Shaw's Supermarket
•   Shop 'n Save
•   Shoppers
•   SIX:02
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Re: still not able to see Word Count in Pages

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, 
Go to more, then keep flicking until you hear word count switch button off. 
Double tap to toggle it on. The button is right before the text field.

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> On Mar 3, 2018, at 2:20 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have found an option to view character count in Pages, but cannot find a 
> way to view the word count.  Can someone provide instructions on how to do 
> this?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Choosing my First MacBook, Air or Pro, and With or Without Touch Bar?

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi,

In my opinion, since I've had my first ever mac, the Macbook Pro, since 2012, 
yes that long *smile*, that I have managed without the touch bar and will stick 
to that unless a future mac inforces me to learn that, which does not bother me 
in the slightestt. Personally, my next mac will be the cheaper Macbook Air, but 
a lot of that boils down to financial constraints, which of course will be 
different to everybody. Not only will the Macbook Air be more affordable; I 
don't need all that horsepower offered in a Macbook Pro if all I'm going to do 
is somewhat similar to what I currently do on the iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch and 
even this mac: send and receive emails, browsing the web, using iTunes, nothing 
complicated and processor intensive at all. I have seen rumours floating about 
suggesting a more affordable Macbook Air some time this year so it will be 
interesting how that works out.



> On 3 Mar 2018, at 17:49, Rhanda Hasley  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
>  
> I’m a long-time PC user with JAWS, but am now on the verge of buying my first 
> Mac.  For several years, I’ve also been an iPhone  user so am familiar with 
> VoiceOver, even though I realize the Mac is different and involves a learning 
> curve.  However, I love learning new skills so that doesn’t bother me.  In 
> fact, I’ve been studying various materials including Janet Ingbergt’s books, 
> and have looked at different Mac models.  I definitely want a portable 
> Macbook, as opposed to the Imacs, but am wanting various perspectives on 
> whether to get the Pro or the Air, as well as with or without touch bars. I’m 
> leaning toward getting a Pro, but know of many people like the Air and are 
> just as productive with it.  I’ve also read that getting one without the 
> touch bar would be less expensive.  In your opinion, is the touch bar 
> necessary or advantageous?  Or would I do just fine without it?  Whichever 
> way I go with this, I’m trying to get the most for my money and want   a 
> computer that will last me for as long as possible.
>  
> Thanks much in advance for your perspectives.
>  
> Rhanda
>  
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Re: sending a big attachment on mail, how i know that it finished?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Interesting problem. There is an activity viewer  for mail that will list 
progress  sending and receiving messages, you can find this in the windows 
menu. Another possibility is I would expect that you would have a message in 
your Outbox until it gets sent. 

I also recommend you consider sending large files by placing them in your 
dropbox or other cloud file service and then using the share links. Mail 
historically is not very good at supporting file transfers. I try to keep 
attached file sizes to below 100kb. 


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 3, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> don’t know if i can find an answer for this, but need to know the answer 
> please
> Thanks in advance 
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> This is the 1st time for me to send a 6 MB file, but i discovered that the 
>> mail was not sent.
>> i discovered that i must leave my mail application opened til it uploads the 
>>  file. but the question is that, how can i know that it finish sending my 
>> email?
>> Tia
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Does

['Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries]

Does any kone know of a good mac you tub client for the mac?

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Re: Does

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi,

The Youtube website with Safari should be sufficient enough. Fully accessible 
with VoiceOver, including the video player controls.



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Re: still not able to see Word Count in Pages

[Jonathan Cohn]

Donna,

ON my Macintosh, the word count is immediately after the toolbar. After the 
word count is the region that contains the document contents. If you click on 
the word count it will provide paragraph character, and page counts. 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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Re: still not able to see Word Count in Pages

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Jonathan,

I've been able to activate it on my iPhone using Maria's directions, but on my 
Mac, the tool bar is immediately to the left of the document region.  There is 
nothing in between the two.
Cheers,
Donna
  

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> Donna,
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> ON my Macintosh, the word count is immediately after the toolbar. After the 
> word count is the region that contains the document contents. If you click on 
> the word count it will provide paragraph character, and page counts. 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
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>> Hi all,
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>> TIA,
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Re: still not able to see Word Count in Pages

[Donna Goodin]

Thanks, Maria.  I was able to do this on my phone, but still can't do it on my 
Mac.
Cheers,
Donna
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> Go to more, then keep flicking until you hear word count switch button off. 
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Re: Does

[jeff `greene]

Hi I like "go for youtube" its on the mac app store. Totally accessible.
Jeff


On 3/3/18, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
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> The Youtube website with Safari should be sufficient enough. Fully
> accessible with VoiceOver, including the video player controls.
>
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Re: still not able to see Word Count in Pages

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

The document template I am using is Blank.  Would that make any difference?
TIA,
Donna
> On Mar 3, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> Donna,
> 
> ON my Macintosh, the word count is immediately after the toolbar. After the 
> word count is the region that contains the document contents. If you click on 
> the word count it will provide paragraph character, and page counts. 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
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Re: Choosing my First MacBook, Air or Pro, and With or Without Touch Bar?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I think this depends on what tasks you do with your mac.
I mean if you only do web browsing and email you could get an macbook air.
THe macbook air is quite powerful, more than people think.
Just get it with 8 gb ram and 500gb disk and your good to go for many years.
/A

> 3 mars 2018 kl. 18:49 skrev Rhanda Hasley :
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> Hi Everyone,
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> Mac.  For several years, I’ve also been an iPhone  user so am familiar with 
> VoiceOver, even though I realize the Mac is different and involves a learning 
> curve.  However, I love learning new skills so that doesn’t bother me.  In 
> fact, I’ve been studying various materials including Janet Ingbergt’s books, 
> and have looked at different Mac models.  I definitely want a portable 
> Macbook, as opposed to the Imacs, but am wanting various perspectives on 
> whether to get the Pro or the Air, as well as with or without touch bars. I’m 
> leaning toward getting a Pro, but know of many people like the Air and are 
> just as productive with it.  I’ve also read that getting one without the 
> touch bar would be less expensive.  In your opinion, is the touch bar 
> necessary or advantageous?  Or would I do just fine without it?  Whichever 
> way I go with this, I’m trying to get the most for my money and want   a 
> computer that will last me for as long as possible.
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Re: sending a big attachment on mail, how i know that it finished?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Jonathan:
Thanks so much for this, some clients need there content as attachment,
but anyway, will look into the activity view.
Thanks again


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> Interesting problem. There is an activity viewer  for mail that will list 
> progress  sending and receiving messages, you can find this in the windows 
> menu. Another possibility is I would expect that you would have a message in 
> your Outbox until it gets sent. 
> 
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> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> don’t know if i can find an answer for this, but need to know the answer 
>> please
>> Thanks in advance 
>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
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>>> mail was not sent.
>>> i discovered that i must leave my mail application opened til it uploads 
>>> the  file. but the question is that, how can i know that it finish sending 
>>> my email?
>>> Tia
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Re: still not able to see Word Count in Pages

[Jonathan Cohn]

I expect however that the document has some content in it?

I'll create a blank document and do some testing.


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Re: still not able to see Word Count in Pages

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Donna,

The Character count item should be a menu item.  that is, if you've already 
made it show the count from the View menu, just VO-space on the Character count 
item, then arrow down to Word count.  Whatever count that was visible on the 
last viewing in that document will be the count that shows next time you open 
the document.  You can go to that count item at any time to learn the other 
counts such as character, paragraph etc.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 3, 2018, at 13:20, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi all,

I have found an option to view character count in Pages, but cannot find a way 
to view the word count.  Can someone provide instructions on how to do this?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: sending a big attachment on mail, how i know that it finished?

[Jonathan Cohn]

The activity viewer would have an empty table  and/or the outbox folder would 
not be present.

A


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 3, 2018, at 4:30 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan:
> Thanks so much for this, some clients need there content as attachment,
> but anyway, will look into the activity view.
> Thanks again
> 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 10:47 PM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting problem. There is an activity viewer  for mail that will list 
>> progress  sending and receiving messages, you can find this in the windows 
>> menu. Another possibility is I would expect that you would have a message in 
>> your Outbox until it gets sent. 
>> 
>> I also recommend you consider sending large files by placing them in your 
>> dropbox or other cloud file service and then using the share links. Mail 
>> historically is not very good at supporting file transfers. I try to keep 
>> attached file sizes to below 100kb. 
>> 
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> don’t know if i can find an answer for this, but need to know the answer 
>>> please
>>> Thanks in advance 
>>> 
 On Mar 1, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 This is the 1st time for me to send a 6 MB file, but i discovered that the 
 mail was not sent.
 i discovered that i must leave my mail application opened til it uploads 
 the  file. but the question is that, how can i know that it finish sending 
 my email?
 Tia
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Re: still not able to see Word Count in Pages

[Jonathan Cohn]

Yes, I confirmed with a 14 word blank template document that when the view menu 
displays "Hide Word Count", then there is a word count immediately following 
the tool bar when navigating with the vo left and right cursor keys.
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 3, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> The Character count item should be a menu item.  that is, if you've already 
> made it show the count from the View menu, just VO-space on the Character 
> count item, then arrow down to Word count.  Whatever count that was visible 
> on the last viewing in that document will be the count that shows next time 
> you open the document.  You can go to that count item at any time to learn 
> the other counts such as character, paragraph etc.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 3, 2018, at 13:20, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have found an option to view character count in Pages, but cannot find a 
> way to view the word count.  Can someone provide instructions on how to do 
> this?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: still not able to see Word Count in Pages

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Tim,

That was the piece I was missing.  I didn't realize the character count was a 
button.  thank you!
Donna
> On Mar 3, 2018, at 4:12 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
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> Hi Donna,
> 
> The Character count item should be a menu item.  that is, if you've already 
> made it show the count from the View menu, just VO-space on the Character 
> count item, then arrow down to Word count.  Whatever count that was visible 
> on the last viewing in that document will be the count that shows next time 
> you open the document.  You can go to that count item at any time to learn 
> the other counts such as character, paragraph etc.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 3, 2018, at 13:20, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have found an option to view character count in Pages, but cannot find a 
> way to view the word count.  Can someone provide instructions on how to do 
> this?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: still not able to see Word Count in Pages

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for your help.  The problem was the one Tim identified.  It defaulted to 
character count, and I didbn''t realize it was a button.  Everything is working 
now.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 3, 2018, at 4:20 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I confirmed with a 14 word blank template document that when the view 
> menu displays "Hide Word Count", then there is a word count immediately 
> following the tool bar when navigating with the vo left and right cursor keys.
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Tim Kilburn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> The Character count item should be a menu item.  that is, if you've already 
>> made it show the count from the View menu, just VO-space on the Character 
>> count item, then arrow down to Word count.  Whatever count that was visible 
>> on the last viewing in that document will be the count that shows next time 
>> you open the document.  You can go to that count item at any time to learn 
>> the other counts such as character, paragraph etc.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 13:20, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have found an option to view character count in Pages, but cannot find a 
>> way to view the word count.  Can someone provide instructions on how to do 
>> this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Choosing my First MacBook, Air or Pro, and With or Without Touch Bar?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I wanted to add my own thoughts, having owned an Air and now a Pro with Touch 
Bar. I agree that the Bar is unnecessary, making a few things easier, a few 
harder, and not offering a distinct advantage for most users. That said, Touch 
ID is very nice to have, though if you own an Apple Watch, Touch ID is seldom 
used since your Watch can unlock your Mac.

All that said, remember that the non-Touch Bar Pro is less powerful overall. It 
also includes only two USBC ports, while the Touch Bar model has four. If 
connectivity is an issue and you don't want to buy a dock or hub, this is worth 
considering.

The Air is a good machine, too. My sister has had one since fall of 2013, and 
the computer is still perfectly fine. However, the Air can't handle intense 
applications as well as a Pro, so this decision depends on what you'll be using 
it for, as others have said. There is a rumor out today about a new Air coming 
out by the summer, so it's worth waiting to see what happens there.

Your final option is the Retina MacBook, a finless Mac powered by a mobile 
processor that's incredibly small and light. It's not that powerful, but if you 
just want a web browser, word processor, email machine, it might fit the bill. 
It costs more than the Air but less than the Pro, and includes just one USBC 
port on it. I don't generally recommend this unit, given its lack of power, but 
it could work well depending on your use case and size/weight needs.

Overall, I'd ask what you'll use the computer for, as that will inform the 
advice of everyone on this list. Any other details you can offer will help, 
too. Finally, I really suggest waiting until the summer or fall. I'd be 
surprised if the Pro didn't get some kind of update later this year, and the 
rumor mill is saying something about the Air as well.

--
Alex Hall




> On Mar 3, 2018, at 14:36, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> The only thing I can add to what others have said, is that one thing I find 
> much easier with the touch bar is inserting emojis. I also like having touch 
> ID.  Other than those two things, I'm not really crazy about the touch bar.  
> Much as I love the size and light weight of the Air, I share the concern that 
> it will be discontinued.  So, unless you're one of those people who uses 
> emojis every five words, I think you'd be just fine with an MBP without a 
> touch bar.
> 
> Good luck with your decision, and have fun!
> Cheers,
> Donna 
>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Randa,
>> A lot depends on what you want to do on the computer.  If you are just doing 
>> basic things like email, word processing, internet browsing, playing music, 
>> etc. then the Air is a good computer.   
>> 
>> The Touch Bar is a personal choice.  I now have a MacBook Pro with a Touch 
>> Bar, but I don’t use the Touch Bar that much. I just use keyboard commands 
>> most of the time.  Since you are an iPhone user you should have no 
>> difficulty  with the Touch Bar.
>> 
>> If the Air will meet your needs then I would go with that.  The Touch Bar is 
>> a nice feature but it’s a personal choice as to whether you want to spend 
>> the extra money.  Anything you can do on the Touch Bar can be done with 
>> keyboard commands.
>> 
>> There are a lot of very helpful people on this list to answer your 
>> questions.  Glad you read my book.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Janet
>>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Rhanda Hasley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I’m a long-time PC user with JAWS, but am now on the verge of buying my 
>>> first Mac.  For several years, I’ve also been an iPhone  user so am 
>>> familiar with VoiceOver, even though I realize the Mac is different and 
>>> involves a learning curve.  However, I love learning new skills so that 
>>> doesn’t bother me.  In fact, I’ve been studying various materials including 
>>> Janet Ingbergt’s books, and have looked at different Mac models.  I 
>>> definitely want a portable Macbook, as opposed to the Imacs, but am wanting 
>>> various perspectives on whether to get the Pro or the Air, as well as with 
>>> or without touch bars. I’m leaning toward getting a Pro, but know of many 
>>> people like the Air and are just as productive with it.  I’ve also read 
>>> that getting one without the touch bar would be less expensive.  In your 
>>> opinion, is the touch bar necessary or advantageous?  Or would I do just 
>>> fine without it?  Whichever way I go with this, I’m trying to get the most 
>>> for my money and want   a computer that will last me for as long as 
>>> possible.
>>> 
>>> Thanks much in advance for your perspectives.
>>> 
>>> Rhanda
>>> 
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Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID

[Arnold Schmidt]

I never knew I had to double press the home button first. I just hold my phone 
near the reader with my finger on the home button, and it goes through, except 
for one time, I don't know what was wrong then. I will try double pressing the 
home button first next time, to see if it works even better. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Mar 3, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

In general, the process is simply:

* from the lock screen or notifications center, press the home button twice
* your default card will be selected, but you can choose a different card if 
you have one
* hold the phone near the reader
* touch the home button to authenticate, or do what I do and just leave your 
finger there while holding the phone to the reader
* after a moment, the phone vibrates and chimes, and you're done

Really, stepping through it like that makes it sound longer and harder than it 
is. Double press the home button, hold the phone to the reader, and rest a 
finger on the home button for Touch ID. The only way it gets easier is if 
you're using an Apple Watch. I hope this explains things some, and your next 
attempt goes more smoothly.

--
Alex Hall




> On Mar 3, 2018, at 00:34, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Mark,
>   I did not get that far. What I ran into was, simply put, not knowing yet 
> how to make the transaction. And I did not have the luxury of keeping the 
> checker waiting.
> 
>   I expected to use Touch ID but was prompted for the passcode.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
>> On 3/2/2018 9:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello E.T.,
>> Your question is too broad in order to elicit a meaningful anser.
>> However, I can tell you that today, both a friend and I were unsuccessful in 
>> getting Apple Pay to work at three different terminals at three different 
>> businesses, on each of our phones.  I have an 8 Plus and she has a 7 Plus.
>> We surmised that the system was down or working very slowly.  This was the 
>> first time, since Apple Pay was introduced, that I was not able to complete 
>> a transaction, successfully.
>> I called another friend of mine, who lives a couple of states away, and he, 
>> too, was unsuccessful in completing a terminal-based Apple Pay transaction.
>> So, I suggest that you wait a few days and give it another try, say, 
>> sometime after Monday.
>> Just so you know, a few minutes ago, I did successfully reload my Starbucks 
>> card, via Apple Pay.  Keep in mind that doing so did not require a physical 
>> terminal, as did my previous attempts, earlier today.
>> Mark
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 5:24 PM
>> To: MacVisionaries
>> Subject: Apple Pay and Touch ID
>> With my 8+ I gave this a try today did not succeed. What settings, and 
>> easiest procedures works here? Thanks.
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RE: Choosing my First MacBook, Air or Pro, and With or Without Touch Bar?

[Simon Fogarty]

I’m kind of in a different place again.

I have a mid 2013 mac book air 11inch,
Mine is customised which has given me more benefits in what I’m running
 Now coming up 5 years old I’ts a i7 1.7ghz 8gb ram 500gb harddrive.

I run windows 10 in bootcamp constantly.

The air to me is a good little entry level machine,
2 USB 3 ports, and 1 thunderbolt / mini display port,
The 13 inch has pretty much the same with an SD card reader and if you upgrade 
the processor and ssd in them then you have a good machine if they let you 
upgrade ram to 16 from the default 8 gig would also give you a lot in a machine

I have looked at a new machine recently and desided that the pro without touch 
bar would be the machine for me.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, 4 March 2018 12:09 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Choosing my First MacBook, Air or Pro, and With or Without Touch 
Bar?

Hi all,
I wanted to add my own thoughts, having owned an Air and now a Pro with Touch 
Bar. I agree that the Bar is unnecessary, making a few things easier, a few 
harder, and not offering a distinct advantage for most users. That said, Touch 
ID is very nice to have, though if you own an Apple Watch, Touch ID is seldom 
used since your Watch can unlock your Mac.

All that said, remember that the non-Touch Bar Pro is less powerful overall. It 
also includes only two USBC ports, while the Touch Bar model has four. If 
connectivity is an issue and you don't want to buy a dock or hub, this is worth 
considering.

The Air is a good machine, too. My sister has had one since fall of 2013, and 
the computer is still perfectly fine. However, the Air can't handle intense 
applications as well as a Pro, so this decision depends on what you'll be using 
it for, as others have said. There is a rumor out today about a new Air coming 
out by the summer, so it's worth waiting to see what happens there.

Your final option is the Retina MacBook, a finless Mac powered by a mobile 
processor that's incredibly small and light. It's not that powerful, but if you 
just want a web browser, word processor, email machine, it might fit the bill. 
It costs more than the Air but less than the Pro, and includes just one USBC 
port on it. I don't generally recommend this unit, given its lack of power, but 
it could work well depending on your use case and size/weight needs.

Overall, I'd ask what you'll use the computer for, as that will inform the 
advice of everyone on this list. Any other details you can offer will help, 
too. Finally, I really suggest waiting until the summer or fall. I'd be 
surprised if the Pro didn't get some kind of update later this year, and the 
rumor mill is saying something about the Air as well.

--
Alex Hall





On Mar 3, 2018, at 14:36, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

The only thing I can add to what others have said, is that one thing I find 
much easier with the touch bar is inserting emojis. I also like having touch 
ID.  Other than those two things, I'm not really crazy about the touch bar.  
Much as I love the size and light weight of the Air, I share the concern that 
it will be discontinued.  So, unless you're one of those people who uses emojis 
every five words, I think you'd be just fine with an MBP without a touch bar.

Good luck with your decision, and have fun!
Cheers,
Donna

On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Janet Ingber 
mailto:janet.ing...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Randa,
A lot depends on what you want to do on the computer.  If you are just doing 
basic things like email, word processing, internet browsing, playing music, 
etc. then the Air is a good computer.

The Touch Bar is a personal choice.  I now have a MacBook Pro with a Touch Bar, 
but I don’t use the Touch Bar that much. I just use keyboard commands most of 
the time.  Since you are an iPhone user you should have no difficulty  with the 
Touch Bar.

If the Air will meet your needs then I would go with that.  The Touch Bar is a 
nice feature but it’s a personal choice as to whether you want to spend the 
extra money.  Anything you can do on the Touch Bar can be done with keyboard 
commands.

There are a lot of very helpful people on this list to answer your questions.  
Glad you read my book.

Best,
Janet

On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Rhanda Hasley 
mailto:rhanda.has...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I’m a long-time PC user with JAWS, but am now on the verge of buying my first 
Mac.  For several years, I’ve also been an iPhone  user so am familiar with 
VoiceOver, even though I realize the Mac is different and involves a learning 
curve.  However, I love learning new skills so that doesn’t bother me.  In 
fact, I’ve been studying various materials including Janet Ingbergt’s books, 
and have looked at different Mac models.  I definitely want a portable Macbook, 
as opposed to the Imacs, but am wanting various perspectives on whether to get 
the Pro or the Air, as well as with or

Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID

[E.T.]

Alex,
   Thanks. Remember, this is all new to me. I only just got Touch ID 
and Apple Pay set up in the last couple days. Plus the passcode which 
until now I never used. I will try this again on Monday.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/3/2018 6:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

In general, the process is simply:

* from the lock screen or notifications center, press the home button twice
* your default card will be selected, but you can choose a different 
card if you have one

* hold the phone near the reader
* touch the home button to authenticate, or do what I do and just leave 
your finger there while holding the phone to the reader

* after a moment, the phone vibrates and chimes, and you're done

Really, stepping through it like that makes it sound longer and harder 
than it is. Double press the home button, hold the phone to the reader, 
and rest a finger on the home button for Touch ID. The only way it gets 
easier is if you're using an Apple Watch. I hope this explains things 
some, and your next attempt goes more smoothly.


--
Alex Hall




On Mar 3, 2018, at 00:34, E.T. > wrote:


Mark,
  I did not get that far. What I ran into was, simply put, not knowing 
yet how to make the transaction. And I did not have the luxury of 
keeping the checker waiting.


  I expected to use Touch ID but was prompted for the passcode.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/2/2018 9:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello E.T.,
Your question is too broad in order to elicit a meaningful anser.
However, I can tell you that today, both a friend and I were 
unsuccessful in getting Apple Pay to work at three different 
terminals at three different businesses, on each of our phones.  I 
have an 8 Plus and she has a 7 Plus.
We surmised that the system was down or working very slowly.  This 
was the first time, since Apple Pay was introduced, that I was not 
able to complete a transaction, successfully.
I called another friend of mine, who lives a couple of states away, 
and he, too, was unsuccessful in completing a terminal-based Apple 
Pay transaction.
So, I suggest that you wait a few days and give it another try, say, 
sometime after Monday.
Just so you know, a few minutes ago, I did successfully reload my 
Starbucks card, via Apple Pay.  Keep in mind that doing so did not 
require a physical terminal, as did my previous attempts, earlier today.

Mark
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.

Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 5:24 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Apple Pay and Touch ID
With my 8+ I gave this a try today did not succeed. What 
settings, and easiest procedures works here? Thanks.

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RE: Apple Pay and Touch ID

[M. Taylor]

Arnold,

You do not need to press any buttons, first.

The method you described is the correct one if you only have one credit card on 
file or if you wish to pay with the default card.  

When the phone is in proximity of the terminal, it will automatically wake-up  
and the process will begin, just as you described.

So, to be clear, on a non-iPhone 10 device,

1.
With the phone either unlocked or locked, place your registered finger on the 
Touch-ID Homebutton of the phone.

2.
Now, simply move the phone close to the terminal containing the NFC reader.  

3.
Hold the phone near the reader until you receive hap tic feedback indicating 
that the transaction has concluded successfully.

Depending upon the model and iOS version of your Apple device and the model and 
software version of the NFC terminal, this process can take as little as two 
seconds up to as much as 30 seconds to complete.

Personally, I always make certain that my phone is locked, before beginning any 
transactions.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 3:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID

I never knew I had to double press the home button first. I just hold my phone 
near the reader with my finger on the home button, and it goes through, except 
for one time, I don't know what was wrong then. I will try double pressing the 
home button first next time, to see if it works even better. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Mar 3, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
In general, the process is simply:

* from the lock screen or notifications center, press the home button twice
* your default card will be selected, but you can choose a different card if 
you have one
* hold the phone near the reader
* touch the home button to authenticate, or do what I do and just leave your 
finger there while holding the phone to the reader
* after a moment, the phone vibrates and chimes, and you're done

Really, stepping through it like that makes it sound longer and harder than it 
is. Double press the home button, hold the phone to the reader, and rest a 
finger on the home button for Touch ID. The only way it gets easier is if 
you're using an Apple Watch. I hope this explains things some, and your next 
attempt goes more smoothly.

--
Alex Hall





On Mar 3, 2018, at 00:34, E.T.  wrote:

Mark,
  I did not get that far. What I ran into was, simply put, not knowing yet how 
to make the transaction. And I did not have the luxury of keeping the checker 
waiting.

  I expected to use Touch ID but was prompted for the passcode.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/2/2018 9:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello E.T.,
Your question is too broad in order to elicit a meaningful anser.
However, I can tell you that today, both a friend and I were unsuccessful in 
getting Apple Pay to work at three different terminals at three different 
businesses, on each of our phones.  I have an 8 Plus and she has a 7 Plus.
We surmised that the system was down or working very slowly.  This was the 
first time, since Apple Pay was introduced, that I was not able to complete a 
transaction, successfully.
I called another friend of mine, who lives a couple of states away, and he, 
too, was unsuccessful in completing a terminal-based Apple Pay transaction.
So, I suggest that you wait a few days and give it another try, say, sometime 
after Monday.
Just so you know, a few minutes ago, I did successfully reload my Starbucks 
card, via Apple Pay.  Keep in mind that doing so did not require a physical 
terminal, as did my previous attempts, earlier today.
Mark
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 5:24 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Apple Pay and Touch ID
With my 8+ I gave this a try today did not succeed. What settings, and 
easiest procedures works here? Thanks.
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RE: Apple Pay and Touch ID

[M. Taylor]

E.T.,

Remember, if you have everything setup correctly, the only time you will need 
to enter your phone's pass code is when you reboot the phone.  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 5:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID

Alex,
Thanks. Remember, this is all new to me. I only just got Touch ID and Apple 
Pay set up in the last couple days. Plus the passcode which until now I never 
used. I will try this again on Monday.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/3/2018 6:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> In general, the process is simply:
> 
> * from the lock screen or notifications center, press the home button 
> twice
> * your default card will be selected, but you can choose a different 
> card if you have one
> * hold the phone near the reader
> * touch the home button to authenticate, or do what I do and just 
> leave your finger there while holding the phone to the reader
> * after a moment, the phone vibrates and chimes, and you're done
> 
> Really, stepping through it like that makes it sound longer and harder 
> than it is. Double press the home button, hold the phone to the 
> reader, and rest a finger on the home button for Touch ID. The only 
> way it gets easier is if you're using an Apple Watch. I hope this 
> explains things some, and your next attempt goes more smoothly.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 00:34, E.T. > > wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>   I did not get that far. What I ran into was, simply put, not 
>> knowing yet how to make the transaction. And I did not have the 
>> luxury of keeping the checker waiting.
>>
>>   I expected to use Touch ID but was prompted for the passcode.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>>
>> On 3/2/2018 9:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> Hello E.T.,
>>> Your question is too broad in order to elicit a meaningful anser.
>>> However, I can tell you that today, both a friend and I were 
>>> unsuccessful in getting Apple Pay to work at three different 
>>> terminals at three different businesses, on each of our phones.  I 
>>> have an 8 Plus and she has a 7 Plus.
>>> We surmised that the system was down or working very slowly.  This 
>>> was the first time, since Apple Pay was introduced, that I was not 
>>> able to complete a transaction, successfully.
>>> I called another friend of mine, who lives a couple of states away, 
>>> and he, too, was unsuccessful in completing a terminal-based Apple 
>>> Pay transaction.
>>> So, I suggest that you wait a few days and give it another try, say, 
>>> sometime after Monday.
>>> Just so you know, a few minutes ago, I did successfully reload my 
>>> Starbucks card, via Apple Pay.  Keep in mind that doing so did not 
>>> require a physical terminal, as did my previous attempts, earlier today.
>>> Mark
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 5:24 PM
>>> To: MacVisionaries
>>> Subject: Apple Pay and Touch ID
>>> With my 8+ I gave this a try today did not succeed. What 
>>> settings, and easiest procedures works here? Thanks.
>>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
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Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID

[Alex Hall]

I never knew that! I don't use Apple Pay often, and when I od, it's generally 
with my Apple Watch. When I've used the phone, though, I always thought I had 
to double press the home button first. Thanks for the correction, and sorry for 
my bad information!

--
Alex Hall




> On Mar 3, 2018, at 21:07, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Arnold,
> 
> You do not need to press any buttons, first.
> 
> The method you described is the correct one if you only have one credit card 
> on file or if you wish to pay with the default card.  
> 
> When the phone is in proximity of the terminal, it will automatically wake-up 
>  and the process will begin, just as you described.
> 
> So, to be clear, on a non-iPhone 10 device,
> 
> 1.
> With the phone either unlocked or locked, place your registered finger on the 
> Touch-ID Homebutton of the phone.
> 
> 2.
> Now, simply move the phone close to the terminal containing the NFC reader.  
> 
> 3.
> Hold the phone near the reader until you receive hap tic feedback indicating 
> that the transaction has concluded successfully.
> 
> Depending upon the model and iOS version of your Apple device and the model 
> and software version of the NFC terminal, this process can take as little as 
> two seconds up to as much as 30 seconds to complete.
> 
> Personally, I always make certain that my phone is locked, before beginning 
> any transactions.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 3:46 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID
> 
> I never knew I had to double press the home button first. I just hold my 
> phone near the reader with my finger on the home button, and it goes through, 
> except for one time, I don't know what was wrong then. I will try double 
> pressing the home button first next time, to see if it works even better. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
> 
> On Mar 3, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> In general, the process is simply:
> 
> * from the lock screen or notifications center, press the home button twice
> * your default card will be selected, but you can choose a different card if 
> you have one
> * hold the phone near the reader
> * touch the home button to authenticate, or do what I do and just leave your 
> finger there while holding the phone to the reader
> * after a moment, the phone vibrates and chimes, and you're done
> 
> Really, stepping through it like that makes it sound longer and harder than 
> it is. Double press the home button, hold the phone to the reader, and rest a 
> finger on the home button for Touch ID. The only way it gets easier is if 
> you're using an Apple Watch. I hope this explains things some, and your next 
> attempt goes more smoothly.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 3, 2018, at 00:34, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Mark,
>  I did not get that far. What I ran into was, simply put, not knowing yet how 
> to make the transaction. And I did not have the luxury of keeping the checker 
> waiting.
> 
>  I expected to use Touch ID but was prompted for the passcode.
> 
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> On 3/2/2018 9:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> Hello E.T.,
> Your question is too broad in order to elicit a meaningful anser.
> However, I can tell you that today, both a friend and I were unsuccessful in 
> getting Apple Pay to work at three different terminals at three different 
> businesses, on each of our phones.  I have an 8 Plus and she has a 7 Plus.
> We surmised that the system was down or working very slowly.  This was the 
> first time, since Apple Pay was introduced, that I was not able to complete a 
> transaction, successfully.
> I called another friend of mine, who lives a couple of states away, and he, 
> too, was unsuccessful in completing a terminal-based Apple Pay transaction.
> So, I suggest that you wait a few days and give it another try, say, sometime 
> after Monday.
> Just so you know, a few minutes ago, I did successfully reload my Starbucks 
> card, via Apple Pay.  Keep in mind that doing so did not require a physical 
> terminal, as did my previous attempts, earlier today.
> Mark
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 5:24 PM
> To: MacVisionaries
> Subject: Apple Pay and Touch ID
>With my 8+ I gave this a try today did not succeed. What settings, and 
> easiest procedures works here? Thanks.
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Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID

[E.T.]

Alex,
   Not bad information. We just never stop learning.

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On 3/3/2018 7:02 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
I never knew that! I don't use Apple Pay often, and when I od, it's 
generally with my Apple Watch. When I've used the phone, though, I 
always thought I had to double press the home button first. Thanks for 
the correction, and sorry for my bad information!


--
Alex Hall




On Mar 3, 2018, at 21:07, M. Taylor > wrote:


Arnold,

You do not need to press any buttons, first.

The method you described is the correct one if you only have one 
credit card on file or if you wish to pay with the default card.


When the phone is in proximity of the terminal, it will automatically 
wake-up  and the process will begin, just as you described.


So, to be clear, on a non-iPhone 10 device,

1.
With the phone either unlocked or locked, place your registered finger 
on the Touch-ID Homebutton of the phone.


2.
Now, simply move the phone close to the terminal containing the NFC 
reader.


3.
Hold the phone near the reader until you receive hap tic feedback 
indicating that the transaction has concluded successfully.


Depending upon the model and iOS version of your Apple device and the 
model and software version of the NFC terminal, this process can take 
as little as two seconds up to as much as 30 seconds to complete.


Personally, I always make certain that my phone is locked, before 
beginning any transactions.


Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt

Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 3:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 


Subject: Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID

I never knew I had to double press the home button first. I just hold 
my phone near the reader with my finger on the home button, and it 
goes through, except for one time, I don't know what was wrong then. I 
will try double pressing the home button first next time, to see if it 
works even better.


Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Mar 3, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall > wrote:

In general, the process is simply:

* from the lock screen or notifications center, press the home button 
twice
* your default card will be selected, but you can choose a different 
card if you have one

* hold the phone near the reader
* touch the home button to authenticate, or do what I do and just 
leave your finger there while holding the phone to the reader

* after a moment, the phone vibrates and chimes, and you're done

Really, stepping through it like that makes it sound longer and harder 
than it is. Double press the home button, hold the phone to the 
reader, and rest a finger on the home button for Touch ID. The only 
way it gets easier is if you're using an Apple Watch. I hope this 
explains things some, and your next attempt goes more smoothly.


--
Alex Hall





On Mar 3, 2018, at 00:34, E.T. > wrote:


Mark,
 I did not get that far. What I ran into was, simply put, not knowing 
yet how to make the transaction. And I did not have the luxury of 
keeping the checker waiting.


 I expected to use Touch ID but was prompted for the passcode.

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in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/2/2018 9:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello E.T.,
Your question is too broad in order to elicit a meaningful anser.
However, I can tell you that today, both a friend and I were 
unsuccessful in getting Apple Pay to work at three different terminals 
at three different businesses, on each of our phones.  I have an 8 
Plus and she has a 7 Plus.
We surmised that the system was down or working very slowly.  This was 
the first time, since Apple Pay was introduced, that I was not able to 
complete a transaction, successfully.
I called another friend of mine, who lives a couple of states away, 
and he, too, was unsuccessful in completing a terminal-based Apple Pay 
transaction.
So, I suggest that you wait a few days and give it another try, say, 
sometime after Monday.
Just so you know, a few minutes ago, I did successfully reload my 
Starbucks card, via Apple Pay.  Keep in mind that doing so did not 
require a physical terminal, as did my previous attempts, earlier today.

Mark
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.

Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 5:24 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Apple Pay and Touch ID
   With my 8+ I gave this a try today did not succeed. What settings, 
and easiest procedures works here? Thanks.

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