wi fi headphones for my Macbook Pro

['andy' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all.

When in a pub or cafe trying to get used to my 2014 Macbook Pro, I am very much 
aware of the voice-over sounds around me whichenables others to pay attention 
in what I'm doing.

I'm soon to visit the Apple store in Glasgow for help with an Iphone and was 
wondering if I could possible also purchase a pair of small comfortable 
wireless headphones and get them paired to my Macbook.

Never having had such an item, I'm not sure of what to ask for and how much I'd 
likely have to pay.

Any advice including brand recommendations and pairing would help me a lot.

Thanks.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
>From Scotland with Love.

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Preparing a Mac for disposal

[Paul Hopewell]

Hi Andrew and Nickus, 
Many thanks for your help. I hope to sell or give away the old Mac but if no 
one wants it I will have it recycled.
I am a bit paranoid about security and so want to be sure that all my private 
data is really gone before moving the Mac on. So can I use the disk utility 
part of the recovery manager to securely erase my hard disk and then use the 
Install Mac OS part of the recovery manager to re-install El Capitan? Or if I 
just use the Install Mac OS part of the recovery manager does that also 
reformat my hard disk so that I do not need to use the disk utility?
Best regards…

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Re: Berning an audio CD on mac

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi Michael:
I did what you told me, and i can burn data CD, but how about Audio 1?

> On Feb 28, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Thanks so much Michael, but, will they be audio cd or mp3s?
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2018, at 11:44 PM, michael dailey > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I use iTunes for burning CD’s.
>> 
>> I created a new folder called Burn Folder.  I move all the tracks into that, 
>> then select them all then, select  burn to disk from the File menu.
>> 
>> 
>> If you are copying one CD, highlight all the tracks, and then do the Burn To 
>> Disk.
>> 
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>> mpd...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> It's the 1st time for me to bern an audio cd, so, can you tel me , if
>>> I must use ITunes for this issue or not? and how I can bern multiple
>>> tracks on it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Ramy MoustafaSaber
>>> Music instructor @:
>>> Faculty ofmusical education
>>> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
>>> Harmony Recording Studio
>>> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg 
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Re: Berning an audio CD on mac

[michael dailey]

That is how I burn audio cd’s also.
Mike Dailey
mpd...@gmail.com





> On Feb 28, 2018, at 6:42 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael:
> I did what you told me, and i can burn data CD, but how about Audio 1?
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks so much Michael, but, will they be audio cd or mp3s?
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2018, at 11:44 PM, michael dailey >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use iTunes for burning CD’s.
>>> 
>>> I created a new folder called Burn Folder.  I move all the tracks into 
>>> that, then select them all then, select  burn to disk from the File menu.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you are copying one CD, highlight all the tracks, and then do the Burn 
>>> To Disk.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Mike Dailey
>>> mpd...@gmail.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 It's the 1st time for me to bern an audio cd, so, can you tel me , if
 I must use ITunes for this issue or not? and how I can bern multiple
 tracks on it?
 
 Thanks
 
 
 -- 
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 Music instructor @:
 Faculty ofmusical education
 Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
 Harmony Recording Studio
 https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg 
 
 
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Re: iPhone question.

[Alex Hall]

There are also the screen protectors from Speed Dots. These give you dots in 
strategic locations, like the 5 on the keypad or where a back button usually 
is. The dots can't move, and some apps' controls won't line up with them, but 
they can be a big help if you find you need more tactile landmarks than the 
smooth glass of a screen. The website is www.speeddots.com, and  believe 
www.atguys.com carries them as well.

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> On Feb 28, 2018, at 02:51, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Or with a smart phone get yourself a fold away keyboard that you can use to 
> type if you need to.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 3:46 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: iPhone question.
>  
> To my knowledge, smartphones and buttons simply don't go together anymore. 
> Physical buttons mean no touch screen, or at least a restricted one, which 
> means neither iOS nor Android will run on such a phone.
>  
> What you might consider is keeping an iPhone, or cellular iPad, for the 
> access and ecosystem you already have. Then, get a simple phone for actual 
> calls. With iMessages, you could still text on your iOS device, albeit 
> without SMS messaging, so all you'd lose would be VoiceOver's telling you 
> about call history and contacts. Just a thought.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Feb 27, 2018, at 21:36, Stacey Robinson  > wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I’ll be able to upgrade my iPhone soon and I am trying to decide what I want 
> to do.
> Sometimes I really miss a phone with buttons.
> Are there smart phones with buttons that blind people can use?
> I am with Verizon Wireless.
> Write off list if this is off topic.
>  
> Blessings,
>  
> Stacey Robinson
>  
> stacey...@bellsouth.net 
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Re: wi fi headphones for my Macbook Pro

[Alex Hall]

For the record, you're looking for bluetooth headphone, not wifi. Just so your 
interactions with sales people go more smoothly.

As to which to buy, that depends on a number of factors. Apple's AirPods are 
quite popular, and will pair with your iPhone automatically. Once paired, you 
can use them on your Mac with no additional pairing needed. They sound good and 
don't even have a cable connecting the two earbuds, letting you keep them in a 
small case (which also charges them) in your pocket without fear of cables 
getting crimped or tangled. However, they don't block out ambient noise, and 
their onboard playback controls are very limited compared to others.

There are tons of other options. Earbuds, over-ear headphones, and more, all 
bluetooth. Some block a lot of sound rather like earplugs, others don't. Some 
have a cords, others don't. Some have great playback controls, some have less, 
some have none. Some are $25, some are then times that. Honestly, the best 
thing to do is to look online for recent bluetooth earbuds reviews and find 
some you really like, always assuming you don't just go for the AirPods. 
Incidentally, rumor has it that new AirPods will be released this year, so if 
you want some, you might want to get a cheap pair of earbuds and wait to see if 
AirPods get updated.

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> On Feb 28, 2018, at 05:41, 'andy' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
>  
> When in a pub or cafe trying to get used to my 2014 Macbook Pro, I am very 
> much aware of the voice-over sounds around me whichenables others to pay 
> attention in what I'm doing.
>  
> I'm soon to visit the Apple store in Glasgow for help with an Iphone and was 
> wondering if I could possible also purchase a pair of small comfortable 
> wireless headphones and get them paired to my Macbook.
>  
> Never having had such an item, I'm not sure of what to ask for and how much 
> I'd likely have to pay.
>  
> Any advice including brand recommendations and pairing would help me a lot.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Very best wishes.
>  
> Andy.
> From Scotland with Love.
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Re: iPhone question.

[Stacey Robinson]

Thanks Alex,
I’ve used them in the past.
Can you tell me how to find out how much the latest iPod touch would cost?

Blessings,

Stacey Robinson

stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Feb 28, 2018, at 6:14 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> There are also the screen protectors from Speed Dots. These give you dots in 
> strategic locations, like the 5 on the keypad or where a back button usually 
> is. The dots can't move, and some apps' controls won't line up with them, but 
> they can be a big help if you find you need more tactile landmarks than the 
> smooth glass of a screen. The website is www.speeddots.com 
> , and  believe www.atguys.com 
> carries them as well.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2018, at 02:51, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> Or with a smart phone get yourself a fold away keyboard that you can use to 
>> type if you need to.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  ] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 3:46 PM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries > >
>> Subject: Re: iPhone question.
>>  
>> To my knowledge, smartphones and buttons simply don't go together anymore. 
>> Physical buttons mean no touch screen, or at least a restricted one, which 
>> means neither iOS nor Android will run on such a phone.
>>  
>> What you might consider is keeping an iPhone, or cellular iPad, for the 
>> access and ecosystem you already have. Then, get a simple phone for actual 
>> calls. With iMessages, you could still text on your iOS device, albeit 
>> without SMS messaging, so all you'd lose would be VoiceOver's telling you 
>> about call history and contacts. Just a thought.
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 27, 2018, at 21:36, Stacey Robinson > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> I’ll be able to upgrade my iPhone soon and I am trying to decide what I want 
>> to do.
>> Sometimes I really miss a phone with buttons.
>> Are there smart phones with buttons that blind people can use?
>> I am with Verizon Wireless.
>> Write off list if this is off topic.
>>  
>> Blessings,
>>  
>> Stacey Robinson
>>  
>> stacey...@bellsouth.net 
>>  
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Re: looking for Smart TV recommendations

[dan d.]

The samsung line of tv's have speech access, including streaming capibility 
built in.
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018, Phil Halton wrote:

> Looking for any HD TV, 40 or 45 inch, and most especially with voice guidance 
> of some kind. I understand the Panasonic has a thing called vera which is a 
> voice guidance system. Anything else that people know of that works well for 
> us would be great thanks
>
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Re: looking for Smart TV recommendations

[Jonathan Cohn]

I recently heard a good demonstration of the Fire TV. 
> On Feb 27, 2018, at 3:48 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   I recently got the Samsung UN40MU6300 40-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart LED TV 
> (2017 Model). Once set up. it works nicely with Apple TV.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/27/2018 12:40 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>> Looking for any HD TV, 40 or 45 inch, and most especially with voice 
>> guidance of some kind. I understand the Panasonic has a thing called vera 
>> which is a voice guidance system. Anything else that people know of that 
>> works well for us would be great thanks
>> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: New Phone

[E.T.]

Simon,
   Yes exactly what I was thinking. It was tempting too.

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On 2/27/2018 11:54 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Way to go ET,

  That's a new way to meet the ladies!

  Will she turn up to the first date in a police car, amburlance or fire truck?

Lol.

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Subject: Re: New Phone

 This went better than I expected. Now this new 8 plus charging and 
updating. About all I will do tonight.

 But uh, somehow, while getting acquainted with the placement of the 
buttons I managed to call 9-1-1, I got a real nice operator who made certain I 
really was ok before she ended the call. (grinning)

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E.T.,

Congratulations on your new phone.

Generally speaking, Verizon Wireless will be happy to transfer your info from 
one device to another.

Mark

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Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 5:27 PM
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Subject: New Phone

  Should get a new iPhone tomorrow from Verizon. Can they transfer all my 
dara from the 5? I would do it but won't get home right away and want the phone 
ready for use.

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Re: iPhone question.

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Stacey,
   Go to the Apple Store online where they have sll things Apple.

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On 2/28/2018 5:20 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

Thanks Alex,
I’ve used them in the past.
Can you tell me how to find out how much the latest iPod touch would cost?

Blessings,

Stacey Robinson

stacey...@bellsouth.net 

On Feb 28, 2018, at 6:14 AM, Alex Hall > wrote:


There are also the screen protectors from Speed Dots. These give you 
dots in strategic locations, like the 5 on the keypad or where a back 
button usually is. The dots can't move, and some apps' controls won't 
line up with them, but they can be a big help if you find you need 
more tactile landmarks than the smooth glass of a screen. The website 
iswww.speeddots.com , and 
 believewww.atguys.com carries them as well.


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On Feb 28, 2018, at 02:51, Simon Fogarty > wrote:


Or with a smart phone get yourself a fold away keyboard that you can 
use to type if you need to.
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*Sent:*Wednesday, 28 February 2018 3:46 PM
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*Subject:*Re: iPhone question.
To my knowledge, smartphones and buttons simply don't go together 
anymore. Physical buttons mean no touch screen, or at least a 
restricted one, which means neither iOS nor Android will run on such 
a phone.
What you might consider is keeping an iPhone, or cellular iPad, for 
the access and ecosystem you already have. Then, get a simple phone 
for actual calls. With iMessages, you could still text on your iOS 
device, albeit without SMS messaging, so all you'd lose would be 
VoiceOver's telling you about call history and contacts. Just a thought.


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On Feb 27, 2018, at 21:36, Stacey Robinson
mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
Hi all,
I’ll be able to upgrade my iPhone soon and I am trying to decide
what I want to do.
Sometimes I really miss a phone with buttons.
Are there smart phones with buttons that blind people can use?
I am with Verizon Wireless.
Write off list if this is off topic.
Blessings,
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Re: Preparing a Mac for disposal

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,

When you go to re-format your hard disk drive, you should be able to find an 
option to “safely erase” it. This is assuming you have a hard disk and not an 
SSD. The save erase function does not just mark all sectors as being empty, but 
also makes several write passes over each sector of the disk to ensure it can 
not be brought to a disk forensics shop for recovery
If you can’t find this option directly, feel free to ask Apple or somebody on 
this list can do some research. I haven’t tried to do this in five years, and 
disk utility did have some of its functionality removed to make in more 
intuitive / simpler to use.
Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

> On Feb 28, 2018, at 6:03 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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> Hi Andrew and Nickus, 
> Many thanks for your help. I hope to sell or give away the old Mac but if no 
> one wants it I will have it recycled.
> I am a bit paranoid about security and so want to be sure that all my private 
> data is really gone before moving the Mac on. So can I use the disk utility 
> part of the recovery manager to securely erase my hard disk and then use the 
> Install Mac OS part of the recovery manager to re-install El Capitan? Or if I 
> just use the Install Mac OS part of the recovery manager does that also 
> reformat my hard disk so that I do not need to use the disk utility?
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Re: wi fi headphones for my Macbook Pro

['andy' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Alex.

Thanks for all the information you have provided but ear-buds are not for me 
I'm thinking.  I'd be afraid of loosing one of them and I don't wish to prevent 
friends in a pub from talking to me.

My favourite headphones are Senhiezer, pardon the spelling, and they are about 
£55.00 but have a cable, but they are of a high quality and fold up into a 
pocket.

I just thought that perhaps cable-less phones would be the way to go and I take 
your point about referring to them as £"Bluetooth" headphones.

You've given me much to consider so thanks very much for your help.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
>From Scotland with Love.
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  To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: wi fi headphones for my Macbook Pro


  For the record, you're looking for bluetooth headphone, not wifi. Just so 
your interactions with sales people go more smoothly.


  As to which to buy, that depends on a number of factors. Apple's AirPods are 
quite popular, and will pair with your iPhone automatically. Once paired, you 
can use them on your Mac with no additional pairing needed. They sound good and 
don't even have a cable connecting the two earbuds, letting you keep them in a 
small case (which also charges them) in your pocket without fear of cables 
getting crimped or tangled. However, they don't block out ambient noise, and 
their onboard playback controls are very limited compared to others.


  There are tons of other options. Earbuds, over-ear headphones, and more, all 
bluetooth. Some block a lot of sound rather like earplugs, others don't. Some 
have a cords, others don't. Some have great playback controls, some have less, 
some have none. Some are $25, some are then times that. Honestly, the best 
thing to do is to look online for recent bluetooth earbuds reviews and find 
some you really like, always assuming you don't just go for the AirPods. 
Incidentally, rumor has it that new AirPods will be released this year, so if 
you want some, you might want to get a cheap pair of earbuds and wait to see if 
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Hi all.

When in a pub or cafe trying to get used to my 2014 Macbook Pro, I am very 
much aware of the voice-over sounds around me whichenables others to pay 
attention in what I'm doing.

I'm soon to visit the Apple store in Glasgow for help with an Iphone and 
was wondering if I could possible also purchase a pair of small comfortable 
wireless headphones and get them paired to my Macbook.

Never having had such an item, I'm not sure of what to ask for and how much 
I'd likely have to pay.

Any advice including brand recommendations and pairing would help me a lot.

Thanks.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
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Re: Berning an audio CD on mac

[Ramy Moustafa]

Audio?
How? iI followed all the system asked me to do, and there was no audio
can you tell me how please?


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> That is how I burn audio cd’s also.
> Mike Dailey
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2018, at 6:42 AM, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael:
>> I did what you told me, and i can burn data CD, but how about Audio 1?
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much Michael, but, will they be audio cd or mp3s?
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2018, at 11:44 PM, michael dailey >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I use iTunes for burning CD’s.
 
 I created a new folder called Burn Folder.  I move all the tracks into 
 that, then select them all then, select  burn to disk from the File menu.
 
 
 If you are copying one CD, highlight all the tracks, and then do the Burn 
 To Disk.
 
 
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> On Feb 27, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
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> Hi all:
> 
> It's the 1st time for me to bern an audio cd, so, can you tel me , if
> I must use ITunes for this issue or not? and how I can bern multiple
> tracks on it?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Navigating the Mail on Mac

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

I have some difficulties navigating the Original mail application inside mac OS.
Let’s say that i can perform all things, but somethings took me a long time to 
achieve.
here are my questions:
1- how i can add more than 1 file as attachment? i can attach 1 file, and if i 
need to attach more, i attach 1 by 1, so, how can i attach more files?\
2- when navigating in a mail box,
Voice over always says:
5 messages disclosure try angle, and the sender names than the subject, i only 
need to read the subject 1st to see if i need to open this message or not, 
specially inside a mailing list, so, how can i navigate by subject?

Thanks so much 
5 message conversation collapsed disclosure triangle, unread, Jonathan, dan, 
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Re: VoiceOver Settings Activity

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi Jonathan:
Thanks so much for helping, 
i tern The portable preferences on, but can not remember where Voice over 
stores them.
i tried to know from Voice over, but i could not.
so, can you tell me, how can i know this?
Thanks in advance 

> On Feb 27, 2018, at 9:55 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> Hello,
> 
> If you could create a zip of your portable preferences for VoiceOver and drop 
> it on  dropbox or share it with me via iCloud, I would be willing to test and 
> see if I have this message start popping up. 
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi alex:
>> 
>> 
>> I was using the portable preferences, and now I switch it off, and the
>> same issue.
>> 
>> On 2/27/18, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>>> Hi Jonathan:
>>> 
>>> I used the original keyboard and I restarted and the same issue
>>> 
>>> On 2/25/18, Alex Hall  wrote:
 Ever since High Sierra came out, I've been experiencing this problem.
 It's
 not every minute, but I often find it happens when I'm working on the
 Mac.
 That is, it doesn't happen if I leave the machine alone but on.
 
 The problem is that it interrupts speech. I can't do vo-a anymore,
 because
 I'll usually get interrupted by this partway along and have to re-read
 from
 the start of the paragraph I was on. If I switch apps and wait to hear
 the
 title, such as the open webpage in Safari, VO cuts off before it gets
 that
 far. You get the idea. It doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen
 often enough to be disruptive. I understand that I'm the only one for
 whom
 this is a problem, or so I thought until this thread came along. As I do
 run
 macOS betas, I've reported this problem and sent stack shots.
 
 I've found no fix thus far. I've used an external keyboard as well as the
 built-in one. I never change activities, manually or automatically. I do
 run
 off an archived copy of VO prefs that I've maintained for a few years, so
 that could be the problem. Now that I think of it, I should try disabling
 Portable Preferences and setting up VO anew, to see if that fixes things.
 I
 wonder if anyone else experiencing this issue is using Portable
 Preferences?
 
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> 
> I have never experienced this message repeating. Have  you tried
> restarting or using a different keyboard?  I don't even think when my
> system changes activities that it speaks.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2018, at 10:01 AM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Activities are a way to change some VoiceOver settings for a particular
>> web site or application. For example I change the voice for the
>> notification center.
>> 
>> Generally this is only spoken when you ask about the application  with
>> vo-f1.
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> don’t know what is going on, but am working on my mac mini using High
>>> sierra, and, each minute, Voice over says this:
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Re: Navigating the Mail on Mac

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hi, do you answer your first question, if you attach files from finder, it’s 
easier than doing it through the attachments menu. So, you find the file you 
want, copier, go over to your Mail message, and paste it.
Continue this procedure for as many files as you wish. To answer your second 
question, to navigate by subject, you would have to go in to classic view.

God bless.
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Hi all:

I have some difficulties navigating the Original mail application inside mac OS.
Let’s say that i can perform all things, but somethings took me a long time to 
achieve.
here are my questions:
1- how i can add more than 1 file as attachment? i can attach 1 file, and if i 
need to attach more, i attach 1 by 1, so, how can i attach more files?\
2- when navigating in a mail box,
Voice over always says:
5 messages disclosure try angle, and the sender names than the subject, i only 
need to read the subject 1st to see if i need to open this message or not, 
specially inside a mailing list, so, how can i navigate by subject?

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Re: Berning an audio CD on mac

[michael dailey]

I just highlighted a few tracks and opened the File menu, and one of the 
options is Burn To Disk.

Make sure your cd’s are music compatible.  I think some are just for data, but 
i could be wrong.

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> On Feb 28, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Audio?
> How? iI followed all the system asked me to do, and there was no audio
> can you tell me how please?
> 
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2018, at 2:08 PM, michael dailey > > wrote:
>> 
>> That is how I burn audio cd’s also.
>> Mike Dailey
>> mpd...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2018, at 6:42 AM, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael:
>>> I did what you told me, and i can burn data CD, but how about Audio 1?
>>> 
 On Feb 28, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Thanks so much Michael, but, will they be audio cd or mp3s?
 
> On Feb 27, 2018, at 11:44 PM, michael dailey  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use iTunes for burning CD’s.
> 
> I created a new folder called Burn Folder.  I move all the tracks into 
> that, then select them all then, select  burn to disk from the File menu.
> 
> 
> If you are copying one CD, highlight all the tracks, and then do the Burn 
> To Disk.
> 
> 
>  Mike Dailey
> mpd...@gmail.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> It's the 1st time for me to bern an audio cd, so, can you tel me , if
>> I must use ITunes for this issue or not? and how I can bern multiple
>> tracks on it?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
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Re: Navigating the Mail on Mac

[Jonathan Cohn]

One: you can select multiple non-contiguous items with the 
control-option-command-return keystroke. Once you have all the items selected, 
you can use standard commands like drag, copy, delete. 

For your second question: I believe a, there is some kind of first letter 
navigation in the mail application, I can’t remember if it works for senders, 
subjects or both.
There is also if you interact with a row of the list of messages and then move 
over to the subject column. Then use the up/down arrow keys without VO it 
should just read the subject of the message you have now selected.

The search functionality is also quite useful in Mail. (except on my wife’s 
computer where it does not work).

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Re: Navigating the Mail on Mac

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi:

Copy?? it's very great
will gona try it.

Thanks

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> control-option-command-return keystroke. Once you have all the items
> selected, you can use standard commands like drag, copy, delete.
>
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> navigation in the mail application, I can’t remember if it works for
> senders, subjects or both.
> There is also if you interact with a row of the list of messages and then
> move over to the subject column. Then use the up/down arrow keys without VO
> it should just read the subject of the message you have now selected.
>
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> computer where it does not work).
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>
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Standing on the crossroad.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi friends!
I don’t know what to do or think really. Yu know, i got my Iphone stolen a year 
ago.
So i bought me an android device and was very happy with that.
Then i bought another Android device which was faster and even more better.
Today my intention was to reset the device back to factory settings because 
things were going nuts on it.
So i did that and when i started Talkback on the device the speech was gone.
People on the android list told me that my synth didn’t support my language but 
that is the biggest lie in the world.
So i got really pissed off and took out my sim card and put it in the Iphone Se 
i got money for from a foundation here in sweden.
It was ment to use it as an extra phone so i could have it if my Android broke 
down.
Now its broken down and guess what.
I am back to the Iphone SE.
I am on a crossroad and have to decide wheather to stay the Iphone Way or the 
ANdroid way.
I don’t want to start a flame war about operating systems here.
I’ve had enough of that on the eyes-free list.
BUt i want your help to decide.
Now it seems i am very very happy with my Iphone again.
And i can say that one thing that impressed me which i’ve forgot was the 
ability to answer phone calls on another apple device.
Another thing that impress me is the braille support on the Iphone and Ipad.
Also the easyness when typing and doing tasks on the device.
I can say i have been testing Android and i think i was quite good on using it 
but i never got the hang of talkback and all the strange gestures.
Even though they worked for me they seems to be very clumsy.
I guess i will stay with the Iphone.
What do you all think.
Sorry for the very long post.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Standing on the crossroad.

[E.T.]

Anders.
   After my last flip phone died, I got the iPhone 5. That was 5 years 
ago. It outlasted the 2 flip phones added together. I just picked up new 
iPhone 8 Plus yesterday. It was an easy decision.


   Nothing id bulletproof. You will never find anything that is 
problem-free.


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On 2/28/2018 12:59 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi friends!
I don’t know what to do or think really. Yu know, i got my Iphone stolen a year 
ago.
So i bought me an android device and was very happy with that.
Then i bought another Android device which was faster and even more better.
Today my intention was to reset the device back to factory settings because 
things were going nuts on it.
So i did that and when i started Talkback on the device the speech was gone.
People on the android list told me that my synth didn’t support my language but 
that is the biggest lie in the world.
So i got really pissed off and took out my sim card and put it in the Iphone Se 
i got money for from a foundation here in sweden.
It was ment to use it as an extra phone so i could have it if my Android broke 
down.
Now its broken down and guess what.
I am back to the Iphone SE.
I am on a crossroad and have to decide wheather to stay the Iphone Way or the 
ANdroid way.
I don’t want to start a flame war about operating systems here.
I’ve had enough of that on the eyes-free list.
BUt i want your help to decide.
Now it seems i am very very happy with my Iphone again.
And i can say that one thing that impressed me which i’ve forgot was the 
ability to answer phone calls on another apple device.
Another thing that impress me is the braille support on the Iphone and Ipad.
Also the easyness when typing and doing tasks on the device.
I can say i have been testing Android and i think i was quite good on using it 
but i never got the hang of talkback and all the strange gestures.
Even though they worked for me they seems to be very clumsy.
I guess i will stay with the Iphone.
What do you all think.
Sorry for the very long post.
Thanks in advance.
/A



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Re: Standing on the crossroad.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi ET!
It seems that the Android system have some flaws insied.
On the Iphone you can reset it without taking out the sim card.
ON the Android you have to take out the sim card and then reset the phone.
This is because some languages doesn’t have speech support.
So yes the dissition is easy.
/A

> 28 feb. 2018 kl. 22:12 skrev E.T. :
> 
> Anders.
>   After my last flip phone died, I got the iPhone 5. That was 5 years ago. It 
> outlasted the 2 flip phones added together. I just picked up new iPhone 8 
> Plus yesterday. It was an easy decision.
> 
>   Nothing id bulletproof. You will never find anything that is problem-free.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/28/2018 12:59 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi friends!
>> I don’t know what to do or think really. Yu know, i got my Iphone stolen a 
>> year ago.
>> So i bought me an android device and was very happy with that.
>> Then i bought another Android device which was faster and even more better.
>> Today my intention was to reset the device back to factory settings because 
>> things were going nuts on it.
>> So i did that and when i started Talkback on the device the speech was gone.
>> People on the android list told me that my synth didn’t support my language 
>> but that is the biggest lie in the world.
>> So i got really pissed off and took out my sim card and put it in the Iphone 
>> Se i got money for from a foundation here in sweden.
>> It was ment to use it as an extra phone so i could have it if my Android 
>> broke down.
>> Now its broken down and guess what.
>> I am back to the Iphone SE.
>> I am on a crossroad and have to decide wheather to stay the Iphone Way or 
>> the ANdroid way.
>> I don’t want to start a flame war about operating systems here.
>> I’ve had enough of that on the eyes-free list.
>> BUt i want your help to decide.
>> Now it seems i am very very happy with my Iphone again.
>> And i can say that one thing that impressed me which i’ve forgot was the 
>> ability to answer phone calls on another apple device.
>> Another thing that impress me is the braille support on the Iphone and Ipad.
>> Also the easyness when typing and doing tasks on the device.
>> I can say i have been testing Android and i think i was quite good on using 
>> it but i never got the hang of talkback and all the strange gestures.
>> Even though they worked for me they seems to be very clumsy.
>> I guess i will stay with the Iphone.
>> What do you all think.
>> Sorry for the very long post.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> /A
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Re: Navigating the Mail on Mac

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi sir:
I’m trying to find the subject when navigating, but could not  do this.
also, where is the classic view?


> On Feb 28, 2018, at 9:47 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Hi, do you answer your first question, if you attach files from finder, it’s 
> easier than doing it through the attachments menu. So, you find the file you 
> want, copier, go over to your Mail message, and paste it.
> Continue this procedure for as many files as you wish. To answer your second 
> question, to navigate by subject, you would have to go in to classic view.
> 
> God bless.
> Matt Dierckens,
> Certified assistive technology specialist
> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainor
> Canadian phone: 519-962-9140
> US phone: 573-401-1018
> 
> 
> On Feb 28, 2018, at 2:02 PM, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> I have some difficulties navigating the Original mail application inside mac 
> OS.
> Let’s say that i can perform all things, but somethings took me a long time 
> to achieve.
> here are my questions:
> 1- how i can add more than 1 file as attachment? i can attach 1 file, and if 
> i need to attach more, i attach 1 by 1, so, how can i attach more files?\
> 2- when navigating in a mail box,
> Voice over always says:
> 5 messages disclosure try angle, and the sender names than the subject, i 
> only need to read the subject 1st to see if i need to open this message or 
> not, specially inside a mailing list, so, how can i navigate by subject?
> 
> Thanks so much 
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Re: Standing on the crossroad.

[E.T.]

   I've never used an Android device but I am sure if I look hard 
enough at my iPhones I could find something to complain about. I may go 
back to th Verizon store and give the girl behind the counter some 
Voiceover lessons. She was impressed.


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On 2/28/2018 1:17 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi ET!
It seems that the Android system have some flaws insied.
On the Iphone you can reset it without taking out the sim card.
ON the Android you have to take out the sim card and then reset the phone.
This is because some languages doesn’t have speech support.
So yes the dissition is easy.
/A


28 feb. 2018 kl. 22:12 skrev E.T. :

Anders.
   After my last flip phone died, I got the iPhone 5. That was 5 years ago. It 
outlasted the 2 flip phones added together. I just picked up new iPhone 8 Plus 
yesterday. It was an easy decision.

   Nothing id bulletproof. You will never find anything that is problem-free.

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On 2/28/2018 12:59 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi friends!
I don’t know what to do or think really. Yu know, i got my Iphone stolen a year 
ago.
So i bought me an android device and was very happy with that.
Then i bought another Android device which was faster and even more better.
Today my intention was to reset the device back to factory settings because 
things were going nuts on it.
So i did that and when i started Talkback on the device the speech was gone.
People on the android list told me that my synth didn’t support my language but 
that is the biggest lie in the world.
So i got really pissed off and took out my sim card and put it in the Iphone Se 
i got money for from a foundation here in sweden.
It was ment to use it as an extra phone so i could have it if my Android broke 
down.
Now its broken down and guess what.
I am back to the Iphone SE.
I am on a crossroad and have to decide wheather to stay the Iphone Way or the 
ANdroid way.
I don’t want to start a flame war about operating systems here.
I’ve had enough of that on the eyes-free list.
BUt i want your help to decide.
Now it seems i am very very happy with my Iphone again.
And i can say that one thing that impressed me which i’ve forgot was the 
ability to answer phone calls on another apple device.
Another thing that impress me is the braille support on the Iphone and Ipad.
Also the easyness when typing and doing tasks on the device.
I can say i have been testing Android and i think i was quite good on using it 
but i never got the hang of talkback and all the strange gestures.
Even though they worked for me they seems to be very clumsy.
I guess i will stay with the Iphone.
What do you all think.
Sorry for the very long post.
Thanks in advance.
/A


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Re: Standing on the crossroad.

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi there,
The things that excite or interest us about technology are truly personal 
things are they not?
I mean you are the only person using your phone, your computer, your 
toaster for that matter.
so, speaking only for myself, I have not ever resonated with tech 
decisions  made via democracy smiles.
If the individual things that are important to your personal experiences 
needs and desire are best managed by the IPhone, then your choice is 
made.  If those are better done with another platform, again your choice 
is made.
I honor your ability to know, on your own, what works for you best of all. 
I do not feel I deserve a vote, nor does any outsider.

Just my take,
Kare


On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Anders Holmberg wrote:


Hi friends!
I don’t know what to do or think really. Yu know, i got my Iphone stolen a year 
ago.
So i bought me an android device and was very happy with that.
Then i bought another Android device which was faster and even more better.
Today my intention was to reset the device back to factory settings because 
things were going nuts on it.
So i did that and when i started Talkback on the device the speech was gone.
People on the android list told me that my synth didn’t support my language but 
that is the biggest lie in the world.
So i got really pissed off and took out my sim card and put it in the Iphone Se 
i got money for from a foundation here in sweden.
It was ment to use it as an extra phone so i could have it if my Android broke 
down.
Now its broken down and guess what.
I am back to the Iphone SE.
I am on a crossroad and have to decide wheather to stay the Iphone Way or the 
ANdroid way.
I don’t want to start a flame war about operating systems here.
I’ve had enough of that on the eyes-free list.
BUt i want your help to decide.
Now it seems i am very very happy with my Iphone again.
And i can say that one thing that impressed me which i’ve forgot was the 
ability to answer phone calls on another apple device.
Another thing that impress me is the braille support on the Iphone and Ipad.
Also the easyness when typing and doing tasks on the device.
I can say i have been testing Android and i think i was quite good on using it 
but i never got the hang of talkback and all the strange gestures.
Even though they worked for me they seems to be very clumsy.
I guess i will stay with the Iphone.
What do you all think.
Sorry for the very long post.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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Re: Standing on the crossroad.

[Erik Burggraaf]

I feel very lucky. When the technology upheaval took place, windows and 
Symbian were on the way out, iPhone and Android were on the way in, I was 
running a technology training company, and I got to try and use both. I was 
able to justify purchasing both when they were new, and I've been able to 
follow their progress for many years. I have substantial money invested in 
both application platforms. I love the variety of devices and the carrier 
Freedom offered by Android. I love the fact that there are very good phones 
at very low prices. I love Android gestures. To me, they make a lot more 
sense than some of the iPhone gestures. I love Braille on iPhone. There's 
no reason why Braille on Android should be as primitive as it actually is. 
The iPhone is fast, powerful, recognizable, and has a lot more 
accessibility features, although Android is starting to catch up a little 
bit. I don't love the fragmentation of accessibility across Android 
devices, and the fact that manufacturers can ignore accessibility standards 
when designing their launchers and proprietary software.


I have a high-end HTC phone, and I like it very much. I don't see myself 
ever owning an iPhone, but I don't see myself ever being without an iPad, 
iPod, or some other high-performing Apple device. I don't use iOS all the 
time, but I love having it around for the few times when I want it.  I am 
not willing to pay the carrier overage that I would have to pay if I switch 
to an iPhone. Canadians pay some of the highest cell phone costs in the 
world, and anything I can do to keep my costs down I'm in favor of.


I'm sorry to hear about the trouble you had with languages. Language 
support has gotten much better in the last year or two, but if the phone is 
not going to come up talking in your language, then it doesn't meet your needs.


Best,

Erik


On February 28, 2018 3:59:25 PM Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi friends!
I don’t know what to do or think really. Yu know, i got my Iphone stolen a 
year ago.

So i bought me an android device and was very happy with that.
Then i bought another Android device which was faster and even more better.
Today my intention was to reset the device back to factory settings because 
things were going nuts on it.

So i did that and when i started Talkback on the device the speech was gone.
People on the android list told me that my synth didn’t support my language 
but that is the biggest lie in the world.
So i got really pissed off and took out my sim card and put it in the 
Iphone Se i got money for from a foundation here in sweden.
It was ment to use it as an extra phone so i could have it if my Android 
broke down.

Now its broken down and guess what.
I am back to the Iphone SE.
I am on a crossroad and have to decide wheather to stay the Iphone Way or 
the ANdroid way.

I don’t want to start a flame war about operating systems here.
I’ve had enough of that on the eyes-free list.
BUt i want your help to decide.
Now it seems i am very very happy with my Iphone again.
And i can say that one thing that impressed me which i’ve forgot was the 
ability to answer phone calls on another apple device.

Another thing that impress me is the braille support on the Iphone and Ipad.
Also the easyness when typing and doing tasks on the device.
I can say i have been testing Android and i think i was quite good on using 
it but i never got the hang of talkback and all the strange gestures.

Even though they worked for me they seems to be very clumsy.
I guess i will stay with the Iphone.
What do you all think.
Sorry for the very long post.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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Re: FineReader Help

[Nancy Badger]

Hello,
I usually get good results when I set the resolution at 300. I’m not sure what 
else could be going on. Are you sure that the scanner is one that is compatible 
with fine reader? That’s the only thing I can think of.

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> On Feb 27, 2018, at 7:32 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
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> Hi guys,
> I am working with a student recently with Abbyy Finereader OCR.
> We are having some difficulties with scanning documents. At one point, it 
> said that change the resolution to 150, but the lowest we could go to is 200 
> I believe.
> No matter which way they put the document on the scanner, it does not want to 
> present any text. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> God bless.
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About the iPhone 8+

[E.T.]

   Curious to know if folks find the lightning to 3.5mm adapter to last 
long. And if anyone has bought replacements, what brand?


   Also of interest is the wireless charging pad, is Belkin good? 
Thanks for feedback.


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RE: Standing on the crossroad.

[M. Taylor]

Karen,

Your sentiment is absolutely beautiful.  I completely concur with everything 
you wrote; and I truly mean it when I say that I could not have put it better, 
myself.  

Thank you so much for contributing to this thread.

Sincerely,

Mark

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On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 2:07 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: Standing on the crossroad.

Hi there,
The things that excite or interest us about technology are truly personal 
things are they not?
I mean you are the only person using your phone, your computer, your toaster 
for that matter.
so, speaking only for myself, I have not ever resonated with tech decisions  
made via democracy smiles.
If the individual things that are important to your personal experiences needs 
and desire are best managed by the IPhone, then your choice is made.  If those 
are better done with another platform, again your choice is made.
I honor your ability to know, on your own, what works for you best of all. 
I do not feel I deserve a vote, nor does any outsider.
Just my take,
Kare


On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Anders Holmberg wrote:

> Hi friends!
> I don’t know what to do or think really. Yu know, i got my Iphone stolen a 
> year ago.
> So i bought me an android device and was very happy with that.
> Then i bought another Android device which was faster and even more better.
> Today my intention was to reset the device back to factory settings because 
> things were going nuts on it.
> So i did that and when i started Talkback on the device the speech was gone.
> People on the android list told me that my synth didn’t support my language 
> but that is the biggest lie in the world.
> So i got really pissed off and took out my sim card and put it in the Iphone 
> Se i got money for from a foundation here in sweden.
> It was ment to use it as an extra phone so i could have it if my Android 
> broke down.
> Now its broken down and guess what.
> I am back to the Iphone SE.
> I am on a crossroad and have to decide wheather to stay the Iphone Way or the 
> ANdroid way.
> I don’t want to start a flame war about operating systems here.
> I’ve had enough of that on the eyes-free list.
> BUt i want your help to decide.
> Now it seems i am very very happy with my Iphone again.
> And i can say that one thing that impressed me which i’ve forgot was the 
> ability to answer phone calls on another apple device.
> Another thing that impress me is the braille support on the Iphone and Ipad.
> Also the easyness when typing and doing tasks on the device.
> I can say i have been testing Android and i think i was quite good on using 
> it but i never got the hang of talkback and all the strange gestures.
> Even though they worked for me they seems to be very clumsy.
> I guess i will stay with the Iphone.
> What do you all think.
> Sorry for the very long post.
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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Re: iPhone question.

[Alex Hall]

Best Buy has them, I believe. Here's the Apple website link for the product:
https://www.apple.com/ipod-touch/
Remember, though, that these are older devices. They run a CPU that's a few 
years out of date, and no one knows when or if a new one will arrive. An iPod 
should work for a few years, as should any iOS device, but it may well stop 
getting updates before long. Just food for thought.

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> On Feb 28, 2018, at 08:20, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Alex,
> I’ve used them in the past.
> Can you tell me how to find out how much the latest iPod touch would cost?
> 
> Blessings,
> 
>   Stacey Robinson
> 
> stacey...@bellsouth.net 
>> On Feb 28, 2018, at 6:14 AM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> There are also the screen protectors from Speed Dots. These give you dots in 
>> strategic locations, like the 5 on the keypad or where a back button usually 
>> is. The dots can't move, and some apps' controls won't line up with them, 
>> but they can be a big help if you find you need more tactile landmarks than 
>> the smooth glass of a screen. The website is www.speeddots.com 
>> , and  believe www.atguys.com 
>> carries them as well.
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2018, at 02:51, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Or with a smart phone get yourself a fold away keyboard that you can use to 
>>> type if you need to.
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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>>>  ] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 28 February 2018 3:46 PM
>>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >> >
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone question.
>>>  
>>> To my knowledge, smartphones and buttons simply don't go together anymore. 
>>> Physical buttons mean no touch screen, or at least a restricted one, which 
>>> means neither iOS nor Android will run on such a phone.
>>>  
>>> What you might consider is keeping an iPhone, or cellular iPad, for the 
>>> access and ecosystem you already have. Then, get a simple phone for actual 
>>> calls. With iMessages, you could still text on your iOS device, albeit 
>>> without SMS messaging, so all you'd lose would be VoiceOver's telling you 
>>> about call history and contacts. Just a thought.
>>> 
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>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2018, at 21:36, Stacey Robinson >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi all,
>>> I’ll be able to upgrade my iPhone soon and I am trying to decide what I 
>>> want to do.
>>> Sometimes I really miss a phone with buttons.
>>> Are there smart phones with buttons that blind people can use?
>>> I am with Verizon Wireless.
>>> Write off list if this is off topic.
>>>  
>>> Blessings,
>>>  
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>>>  
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RE: About the iPhone 8+

[M. Taylor]

Hello E.T.,

I don't know many people who use the 3.5mm adaptor on a regular basis.  
However, I have not heard any reports of them being particularly fragile, 
either.  

Generally speaking, I purchase all of my Apple accessories directly from the 
Apple Store.  

I have not yet used my 8 Plus with a wireless charger.  To be honest, I don't 
find the technology all that compelling.  

When they come up with something that can charge my phone, through the air, 
without the need to place the phone on/near a particular spot?  Then, and only 
then will I take notice.  (smile)

Oh, one more thing, I am amazed at how many people leave their phones in 
restaurants that offer wireless charging pads.  

As a low vision person, I would never place my phone on a public charging pad, 
for any reason.

Mark


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Curious to know if folks find the lightning to 3.5mm adapter to last long. 
And if anyone has bought replacements, what brand?

Also of interest is the wireless charging pad, is Belkin good? 
Thanks for feedback.

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RE: wi fi headphones for my Macbook Pro

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Andy,

The apple earpods would be an option, that is the wireless earpods which apple 
brought out a year or so ago.

I have these for my phone and think they’re pretty good sound and a great size.

I also have a pair of boes Bluetooth headphones which are over the head
They are bulkier than the earpods but again great sound and both Bluetooth and 
wired if needed.

The apple earpods fit in to a little plastic box about 30mm * 40mm * 15mm and 
charge with a standard usb to lighting cable


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Subject: wi fi headphones for my Macbook Pro

Hi all.

When in a pub or cafe trying to get used to my 2014 Macbook Pro, I am very much 
aware of the voice-over sounds around me whichenables others to pay attention 
in what I'm doing.

I'm soon to visit the Apple store in Glasgow for help with an Iphone and was 
wondering if I could possible also purchase a pair of small comfortable 
wireless headphones and get them paired to my Macbook.

Never having had such an item, I'm not sure of what to ask for and how much I'd 
likely have to pay.

Any advice including brand recommendations and pairing would help me a lot.

Thanks.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
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RE: Preparing a Mac for disposal

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Paul,

If you wish to securely wipe your drive then you are best to start the machine 
up from a USB or DVD installation disk then run disk utilities from that USB or 
dvd media then secure wipe the machines internal drive 
And once that is done install the OS to a basic installation and I would stop 
at the point where you get asked for the country 

This being the point the new user would start the machines setup from.

The reason behind the secure boot from external media is because you can't 
secure wipe a drive you are running from.

Good luck.

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Hi Andrew and Nickus, 
Many thanks for your help. I hope to sell or give away the old Mac but if no 
one wants it I will have it recycled.
I am a bit paranoid about security and so want to be sure that all my private 
data is really gone before moving the Mac on. So can I use the disk utility 
part of the recovery manager to securely erase my hard disk and then use the 
Install Mac OS part of the recovery manager to re-install El Capitan? Or if I 
just use the Install Mac OS part of the recovery manager does that also 
reformat my hard disk so that I do not need to use the disk utility?
Best regards…

Paul Hopewell 

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RE: New Phone

[Simon Fogarty]

ET, you’re a bad little alien,
 That's why we get on.



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Subject: Re: New Phone

Simon,
Yes exactly what I was thinking. It was tempting too.

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On 2/27/2018 11:54 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> Way to go ET,
> 
>   That's a new way to meet the ladies!
> 
>   Will she turn up to the first date in a police car, amburlance or fire 
> truck?
> 
> Lol.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Phone
> 
>  This went better than I expected. Now this new 8 plus charging and 
> updating. About all I will do tonight.
> 
>  But uh, somehow, while getting acquainted with the placement of 
> the buttons I managed to call 9-1-1, I got a real nice operator who 
> made certain I really was ok before she ended the call. (grinning)
> 
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> On 2/26/2018 10:22 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> E.T.,
>>
>> Congratulations on your new phone.
>>
>> Generally speaking, Verizon Wireless will be happy to transfer your info 
>> from one device to another.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 5:27 PM
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>> Subject: New Phone
>>
>>   Should get a new iPhone tomorrow from Verizon. Can they transfer all 
>> my dara from the 5? I would do it but won't get home right away and want the 
>> phone ready for use.
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RE: Standing on the crossroad.

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There was a news item where the iPhone X allowed the users daughter access
to it.  The claim was it was a one in a million chance that it would work.
It did.  So, nothing is full proof.  

 

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Re: About the iPhone 8+

[E.T.]

   I may get a couple spares since they are so small, easy to lose. I 
use neckloops both wired and BT. The BT ones are expensive and do not 
have user replaceable batteries so I tend to limit their use.


   I agree, in many cases stick to OEM items. You know, cheap becomes 
expensive.


   People leaving their phones, Not surprising. I keep mu phone in my 
pocket. Look at how many text and walk. Heard on the news tonight that a 
pedestrian was so deep into his phone he walked into a fire truck that 
had lights and siren going. Remember Pokemon?


   I'm going to pass on wireless charging for now. I like the concept 
though. Its not in the budget. Someday.


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On 2/28/2018 6:22 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello E.T.,

I don't know many people who use the 3.5mm adaptor on a regular basis.  
However, I have not heard any reports of them being particularly fragile, 
either.

Generally speaking, I purchase all of my Apple accessories directly from the 
Apple Store.

I have not yet used my 8 Plus with a wireless charger.  To be honest, I don't 
find the technology all that compelling.

When they come up with something that can charge my phone, through the air, 
without the need to place the phone on/near a particular spot?  Then, and only 
then will I take notice.  (smile)

Oh, one more thing, I am amazed at how many people leave their phones in 
restaurants that offer wireless charging pads.

As a low vision person, I would never place my phone on a public charging pad, 
for any reason.

Mark


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 Curious to know if folks find the lightning to 3.5mm adapter to last long. 
And if anyone has bought replacements, what brand?

 Also of interest is the wireless charging pad, is Belkin good?
Thanks for feedback.

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RE: Standing on the crossroad.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Anders,

 Firstly, stand on the side of the cross roads not in the middle,  it's very 
dangerous to stand in the middle of a cross roads intersection,

 Back to your android,
When you start up the android after resetting it 
You hold two fingers on the screen and if it's a newish OS on the phone, 
Keep holding your fingers on the screen.

 I found that my android took quite a while before it started talking 
With the newist os on it.

 Just a thought.

But hey apple to me is a lot easier to use than android and that the talkback 
voices aren't anywhere near as good quality.

 But really it's up to you.

  Everyone is different in what they are use to and feel comfortable using.


Good luck with what you go with.

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Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2018 9:59 AM
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Subject: Standing on the crossroad.

Hi friends!
I don’t know what to do or think really. Yu know, i got my Iphone stolen a year 
ago.
So i bought me an android device and was very happy with that.
Then i bought another Android device which was faster and even more better.
Today my intention was to reset the device back to factory settings because 
things were going nuts on it.
So i did that and when i started Talkback on the device the speech was gone.
People on the android list told me that my synth didn’t support my language but 
that is the biggest lie in the world.
So i got really pissed off and took out my sim card and put it in the Iphone Se 
i got money for from a foundation here in sweden.
It was ment to use it as an extra phone so i could have it if my Android broke 
down.
Now its broken down and guess what.
I am back to the Iphone SE.
I am on a crossroad and have to decide wheather to stay the Iphone Way or the 
ANdroid way.
I don’t want to start a flame war about operating systems here.
I’ve had enough of that on the eyes-free list.
BUt i want your help to decide.
Now it seems i am very very happy with my Iphone again.
And i can say that one thing that impressed me which i’ve forgot was the 
ability to answer phone calls on another apple device.
Another thing that impress me is the braille support on the Iphone and Ipad.
Also the easyness when typing and doing tasks on the device.
I can say i have been testing Android and i think i was quite good on using it 
but i never got the hang of talkback and all the strange gestures.
Even though they worked for me they seems to be very clumsy.
I guess i will stay with the Iphone.
What do you all think.
Sorry for the very long post.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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RE: Standing on the crossroad.

[Simon Fogarty]

Voiceover lessons?
Really is that the new line to use?

I must go try that one.

 Sick man sick!


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Subject: Re: Standing on the crossroad.

I've never used an Android device but I am sure if I look hard enough at my 
iPhones I could find something to complain about. I may go back to th Verizon 
store and give the girl behind the counter some Voiceover lessons. She was 
impressed.

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On 2/28/2018 1:17 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> Hi ET!
> It seems that the Android system have some flaws insied.
> On the Iphone you can reset it without taking out the sim card.
> ON the Android you have to take out the sim card and then reset the phone.
> This is because some languages doesn’t have speech support.
> So yes the dissition is easy.
> /A
> 
>> 28 feb. 2018 kl. 22:12 skrev E.T. :
>>
>> Anders.
>>After my last flip phone died, I got the iPhone 5. That was 5 years ago. 
>> It outlasted the 2 flip phones added together. I just picked up new iPhone 8 
>> Plus yesterday. It was an easy decision.
>>
>>Nothing id bulletproof. You will never find anything that is problem-free.
>>
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>>> Hi friends!
>>> I don’t know what to do or think really. Yu know, i got my Iphone stolen a 
>>> year ago.
>>> So i bought me an android device and was very happy with that.
>>> Then i bought another Android device which was faster and even more better.
>>> Today my intention was to reset the device back to factory settings because 
>>> things were going nuts on it.
>>> So i did that and when i started Talkback on the device the speech was gone.
>>> People on the android list told me that my synth didn’t support my language 
>>> but that is the biggest lie in the world.
>>> So i got really pissed off and took out my sim card and put it in the 
>>> Iphone Se i got money for from a foundation here in sweden.
>>> It was ment to use it as an extra phone so i could have it if my Android 
>>> broke down.
>>> Now its broken down and guess what.
>>> I am back to the Iphone SE.
>>> I am on a crossroad and have to decide wheather to stay the Iphone Way or 
>>> the ANdroid way.
>>> I don’t want to start a flame war about operating systems here.
>>> I’ve had enough of that on the eyes-free list.
>>> BUt i want your help to decide.
>>> Now it seems i am very very happy with my Iphone again.
>>> And i can say that one thing that impressed me which i’ve forgot was the 
>>> ability to answer phone calls on another apple device.
>>> Another thing that impress me is the braille support on the Iphone and Ipad.
>>> Also the easyness when typing and doing tasks on the device.
>>> I can say i have been testing Android and i think i was quite good on using 
>>> it but i never got the hang of talkback and all the strange gestures.
>>> Even though they worked for me they seems to be very clumsy.
>>> I guess i will stay with the Iphone.
>>> What do you all think.
>>> Sorry for the very long post.
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> /A
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Re: New Phone

[E.T.]

   Moi? Naw. It was a fun thought though. I wonder what would have 
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ET, you’re a bad little alien,
  That's why we get on.



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Simon,
 Yes exactly what I was thinking. It was tempting too.

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Way to go ET,

   That's a new way to meet the ladies!

   Will she turn up to the first date in a police car, amburlance or fire truck?

Lol.

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  This went better than I expected. Now this new 8 plus charging and 
updating. About all I will do tonight.

  But uh, somehow, while getting acquainted with the placement of
the buttons I managed to call 9-1-1, I got a real nice operator who
made certain I really was ok before she ended the call. (grinning)

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E.T.,

Congratulations on your new phone.

Generally speaking, Verizon Wireless will be happy to transfer your info from 
one device to another.

Mark

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   Should get a new iPhone tomorrow from Verizon. Can they transfer all my 
dara from the 5? I would do it but won't get home right away and want the phone 
ready for use.

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RE: About the iPhone 8+

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Hi ET,

Yeah I got a couple of them when I first got my 7+ over a year ago.

 I've still got the 2 extras I purchased and two more from my 7+ and the x I 
got last December,
 I sold the 7+ prior to xmas.

I just got the apple ones which here are $25 each.

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Curious to know if folks find the lightning to 3.5mm adapter to last long. 
And if anyone has bought replacements, what brand?

Also of interest is the wireless charging pad, is Belkin good? 
Thanks for feedback.

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Re: Standing on the crossroad.

[E.T.]

   Yup. Go for it.

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On 2/28/2018 9:33 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Voiceover lessons?
Really is that the new line to use?

I must go try that one.

  Sick man sick!


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 I've never used an Android device but I am sure if I look hard enough at 
my iPhones I could find something to complain about. I may go back to th 
Verizon store and give the girl behind the counter some Voiceover lessons. She 
was impressed.

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On 2/28/2018 1:17 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi ET!
It seems that the Android system have some flaws insied.
On the Iphone you can reset it without taking out the sim card.
ON the Android you have to take out the sim card and then reset the phone.
This is because some languages doesn’t have speech support.
So yes the dissition is easy.
/A


28 feb. 2018 kl. 22:12 skrev E.T. :

Anders.
After my last flip phone died, I got the iPhone 5. That was 5 years ago. It 
outlasted the 2 flip phones added together. I just picked up new iPhone 8 Plus 
yesterday. It was an easy decision.

Nothing id bulletproof. You will never find anything that is problem-free.

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Hi friends!
I don’t know what to do or think really. Yu know, i got my Iphone stolen a year 
ago.
So i bought me an android device and was very happy with that.
Then i bought another Android device which was faster and even more better.
Today my intention was to reset the device back to factory settings because 
things were going nuts on it.
So i did that and when i started Talkback on the device the speech was gone.
People on the android list told me that my synth didn’t support my language but 
that is the biggest lie in the world.
So i got really pissed off and took out my sim card and put it in the Iphone Se 
i got money for from a foundation here in sweden.
It was ment to use it as an extra phone so i could have it if my Android broke 
down.
Now its broken down and guess what.
I am back to the Iphone SE.
I am on a crossroad and have to decide wheather to stay the Iphone Way or the 
ANdroid way.
I don’t want to start a flame war about operating systems here.
I’ve had enough of that on the eyes-free list.
BUt i want your help to decide.
Now it seems i am very very happy with my Iphone again.
And i can say that one thing that impressed me which i’ve forgot was the 
ability to answer phone calls on another apple device.
Another thing that impress me is the braille support on the Iphone and Ipad.
Also the easyness when typing and doing tasks on the device.
I can say i have been testing Android and i think i was quite good on using it 
but i never got the hang of talkback and all the strange gestures.
Even though they worked for me they seems to be very clumsy.
I guess i will stay with the Iphone.
What do you all think.
Sorry for the very long post.
Thanks in advance.
/A


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RE: About the iPhone 8+

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,

Yeah I keep one in each of my bags 
And one in my tool kit




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I may get a couple spares since they are so small, easy to lose. I use 
neckloops both wired and BT. The BT ones are expensive and do not have user 
replaceable batteries so I tend to limit their use.

I agree, in many cases stick to OEM items. You know, cheap becomes 
expensive.

People leaving their phones, Not surprising. I keep mu phone in my pocket. 
Look at how many text and walk. Heard on the news tonight that a pedestrian was 
so deep into his phone he walked into a fire truck that had lights and siren 
going. Remember Pokemon?

I'm going to pass on wireless charging for now. I like the concept though. 
Its not in the budget. Someday.

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> Hello E.T.,
> 
> I don't know many people who use the 3.5mm adaptor on a regular basis.  
> However, I have not heard any reports of them being particularly fragile, 
> either.
> 
> Generally speaking, I purchase all of my Apple accessories directly from the 
> Apple Store.
> 
> I have not yet used my 8 Plus with a wireless charger.  To be honest, I don't 
> find the technology all that compelling.
> 
> When they come up with something that can charge my phone, through the 
> air, without the need to place the phone on/near a particular spot?  
> Then, and only then will I take notice.  (smile)
> 
> Oh, one more thing, I am amazed at how many people leave their phones in 
> restaurants that offer wireless charging pads.
> 
> As a low vision person, I would never place my phone on a public charging 
> pad, for any reason.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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> long. And if anyone has bought replacements, what brand?
> 
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> Thanks for feedback.
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Re: About the iPhone 8+

[E.T.]

   I do not lose things but of course misplacing them is a different 
story. So will order some soon.


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Hi ET,

Yeah I got a couple of them when I first got my 7+ over a year ago.

  I've still got the 2 extras I purchased and two more from my 7+ and the x I 
got last December,
  I sold the 7+ prior to xmas.

I just got the apple ones which here are $25 each.

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 Curious to know if folks find the lightning to 3.5mm adapter to last long. 
And if anyone has bought replacements, what brand?

 Also of interest is the wireless charging pad, is Belkin good?
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RE: Standing on the crossroad.

[Karen Lewellen]

Gosh I'm honored my words resonated.
Seriously, in a different lifetime I spent several years introducing 
people to technology for the first time.  Lots of them had heard stories 
of what there were supposed to be if they were a truly good example,  yet 
equally 
unfortunate, insistence of what they could never be...according  to 
another's dictionary.
Speaking only for myself I came to believe there is profound  magic in 
reminding people there is power and freedom in remembering they have 
choices, are the only souls inside their   bodies, and  examples of human 
art that will never be duplicated again, no matter if they share labels 
with  others.

But that is just me smiles.
thanks for seasoning some of those choices with all you provide here.
Sincerely,
Karen


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Karen,

Your sentiment is absolutely beautiful.  I completely concur with everything 
you wrote; and I truly mean it when I say that I could not have put it better, 
myself.

Thank you so much for contributing to this thread.

Sincerely,

Mark

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Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 2:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Standing on the crossroad.

Hi there,
The things that excite or interest us about technology are truly personal 
things are they not?
I mean you are the only person using your phone, your computer, your toaster 
for that matter.
so, speaking only for myself, I have not ever resonated with tech decisions  
made via democracy smiles.
If the individual things that are important to your personal experiences needs 
and desire are best managed by the IPhone, then your choice is made.  If those 
are better done with another platform, again your choice is made.
I honor your ability to know, on your own, what works for you best of all.
I do not feel I deserve a vote, nor does any outsider.
Just my take,
Kare


On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Anders Holmberg wrote:


Hi friends!
I don’t know what to do or think really. Yu know, i got my Iphone stolen a year 
ago.
So i bought me an android device and was very happy with that.
Then i bought another Android device which was faster and even more better.
Today my intention was to reset the device back to factory settings because 
things were going nuts on it.
So i did that and when i started Talkback on the device the speech was gone.
People on the android list told me that my synth didn’t support my language but 
that is the biggest lie in the world.
So i got really pissed off and took out my sim card and put it in the Iphone Se 
i got money for from a foundation here in sweden.
It was ment to use it as an extra phone so i could have it if my Android broke 
down.
Now its broken down and guess what.
I am back to the Iphone SE.
I am on a crossroad and have to decide wheather to stay the Iphone Way or the 
ANdroid way.
I don’t want to start a flame war about operating systems here.
I’ve had enough of that on the eyes-free list.
BUt i want your help to decide.
Now it seems i am very very happy with my Iphone again.
And i can say that one thing that impressed me which i’ve forgot was the 
ability to answer phone calls on another apple device.
Another thing that impress me is the braille support on the Iphone and Ipad.
Also the easyness when typing and doing tasks on the device.
I can say i have been testing Android and i think i was quite good on using it 
but i never got the hang of talkback and all the strange gestures.
Even though they worked for me they seems to be very clumsy.
I guess i will stay with the Iphone.
What do you all think.
Sorry for the very long post.
Thanks in advance.
/A

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Re: Standing on the crossroad.

[sandi sørensen]

What i am wondering , is, what is the price for an workable android tablet, 
that i would actually be able to use?
Do they work out of the box?
If we are not allowed to talk about it here, let me know.

Sandie



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> On 1 Mar 2018, at 06.39, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Gosh I'm honored my words resonated.
> Seriously, in a different lifetime I spent several years introducing people 
> to technology for the first time.  Lots of them had heard stories of what 
> there were supposed to be if they were a truly good example,  yet equally 
> unfortunate, insistence of what they could never be...according  to another's 
> dictionary.
> Speaking only for myself I came to believe there is profound  magic in 
> reminding people there is power and freedom in remembering they have choices, 
> are the only souls inside their   bodies, and  examples of human art that 
> will never be duplicated again, no matter if they share labels with  others.
> But that is just me smiles.
> thanks for seasoning some of those choices with all you provide here.
> Sincerely,
> Karen
> 
> 
>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, M. Taylor wrote:
>> 
>> Karen,
>> 
>> Your sentiment is absolutely beautiful.  I completely concur with everything 
>> you wrote; and I truly mean it when I say that I could not have put it 
>> better, myself.
>> 
>> Thank you so much for contributing to this thread.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 2:07 PM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>> Subject: Re: Standing on the crossroad.
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> The things that excite or interest us about technology are truly personal 
>> things are they not?
>> I mean you are the only person using your phone, your computer, your toaster 
>> for that matter.
>> so, speaking only for myself, I have not ever resonated with tech decisions  
>> made via democracy smiles.
>> If the individual things that are important to your personal experiences 
>> needs and desire are best managed by the IPhone, then your choice is made.  
>> If those are better done with another platform, again your choice is made.
>> I honor your ability to know, on your own, what works for you best of all.
>> I do not feel I deserve a vote, nor does any outsider.
>> Just my take,
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi friends!
>>> I don’t know what to do or think really. Yu know, i got my Iphone stolen a 
>>> year ago.
>>> So i bought me an android device and was very happy with that.
>>> Then i bought another Android device which was faster and even more better.
>>> Today my intention was to reset the device back to factory settings because 
>>> things were going nuts on it.
>>> So i did that and when i started Talkback on the device the speech was gone.
>>> People on the android list told me that my synth didn’t support my language 
>>> but that is the biggest lie in the world.
>>> So i got really pissed off and took out my sim card and put it in the 
>>> Iphone Se i got money for from a foundation here in sweden.
>>> It was ment to use it as an extra phone so i could have it if my Android 
>>> broke down.
>>> Now its broken down and guess what.
>>> I am back to the Iphone SE.
>>> I am on a crossroad and have to decide wheather to stay the Iphone Way or 
>>> the ANdroid way.
>>> I don’t want to start a flame war about operating systems here.
>>> I’ve had enough of that on the eyes-free list.
>>> BUt i want your help to decide.
>>> Now it seems i am very very happy with my Iphone again.
>>> And i can say that one thing that impressed me which i’ve forgot was the 
>>> ability to answer phone calls on another apple device.
>>> Another thing that impress me is the braille support on the Iphone and Ipad.
>>> Also the easyness when typing and doing tasks on the device.
>>> I can say i have been testing Android and i think i was quite good on using 
>>> it but i never got the hang of talkback and all the strange gestures.
>>> Even though they worked for me they seems to be very clumsy.
>>> I guess i will stay with the Iphone.
>>> What do you all think.
>>> Sorry for the very long post.
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> /A
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