Strange problem with Sophos AntiVirus

2017-11-03 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hello,
I’m trying to uninstall Sophos Antivirus so that i can reinstall it again. The 
saga started a while back when i suddenly couldn’t open Sophos at all because 
it claimed that an image was missing and when i tried to quit, the application 
got into an endless loop where it popped up the dialog about that it couldn’t 
open time and time again.
I stupidly uninstalled only the application portion and forgot that deep in the 
system there was this Sophos agent that should be turned off before 
uninstalling, now the real fun begins: Every time the computer starts up i get 
this message saying that the Sophos agent couldn’t be opened because of an 
unexpected error a help button and an ok button. Pressing the ok button makes 
the dialog go away a couple minutes at best but then it comes right back again 
and pressing ok only pops it up again. I have chosen to ignore the dialog 
because i don’t know what to do and how to do it to get rid of the offending 
component and reinstall Sophos again.
I have been into the login items page, but Sophos agent can’t be found. I have 
tried to kill processes but no process with the name ”Sophos agent” is present. 
I have tried to throw away components from the /user/library but it can’t be 
done because a component is in use.
What can i do?
/Krister

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Re: Iphone 5c question?

2017-11-03 Thread sandi sørensen
Hi, the IPhone is a little like a Labrador, super cutesy, and definitely eager 
to do anything you can throw at it , i had one when i was. In home nursing , it 
saved my tail and gorgeous mane more than once.
At least maps works, but then again, don’t expect any heavy lifting, it is not 
what it is made for.





Sent from my iPad

> On 3 Nov 2017, at 01.28, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I believe 10.3.2 was the last one for that.
> 
> But then it did come out at the same time as the 5s so I can't now be sure.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
> Sent: Friday, 3 November 2017 6:57 AM
> To: list voiceover 
> Subject: Iphone 5c question?
> 
> Hi folks,
> I am inheriting  an iphone 5c from a co-worker.
> Granted my first major step will be learning  if there is a voiceover in Ios  
> safe voice for me to even use.
> still, I am thankful for a chance to experiment with limited investment.
> may I ask what Ios edition I can run on this phone?
> Thanks,
> Karen
> 
> 
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Re: Strange problem with Sophos AntiVirus

2017-11-03 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Go into Macintosh HD, Library.  There should be items in there.  It's been a 
while since I've ever removed them since we don't use Sophos anymore.  Check 
under Application support, Launch Items, Launch Daemons and Startup Items.  
When removing items from these locations, you will likely need to enter your 
password and you'll need to restart your Mac before you can empty the Trash.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 3, 2017, at 10:12, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:

Hello,
I’m trying to uninstall Sophos Antivirus so that i can reinstall it again. The 
saga started a while back when i suddenly couldn’t open Sophos at all because 
it claimed that an image was missing and when i tried to quit, the application 
got into an endless loop where it popped up the dialog about that it couldn’t 
open time and time again.
I stupidly uninstalled only the application portion and forgot that deep in the 
system there was this Sophos agent that should be turned off before 
uninstalling, now the real fun begins: Every time the computer starts up i get 
this message saying that the Sophos agent couldn’t be opened because of an 
unexpected error a help button and an ok button. Pressing the ok button makes 
the dialog go away a couple minutes at best but then it comes right back again 
and pressing ok only pops it up again. I have chosen to ignore the dialog 
because i don’t know what to do and how to do it to get rid of the offending 
component and reinstall Sophos again.
I have been into the login items page, but Sophos agent can’t be found. I have 
tried to kill processes but no process with the name ”Sophos agent” is present. 
I have tried to throw away components from the /user/library but it can’t be 
done because a component is in use.
What can i do?
/Krister

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Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-11-03 Thread E.T.
   Ok I can try that and see. Be a while before I can do it but will 
report back shortly.


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On 11/2/2017 5:28 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

ET,

Crazy thought but what if you enable the require password restart your machine 
a couple of times and then disable it again,
Fooling the machine in to the situation tim has now.


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On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Friday, 3 November 2017 6:01 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks 
and interrupt continuous reading

Tim,
 I do not have the require password enabled. I have tried other settings to 
no avail.

  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/2/2017 7:53 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

In my testing, my MBP is set to require a password after screen-lock or screen 
saver.  I'm not sure if those of you where it's not working have it set the 
same.  I will turn that feature off and see what happens to me.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 2, 2017, at 08:30, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi Shawn,

We'll have to compare even more notes.  There's got to be some settings, or 
combination of settings that will work for others like it seems to have for me. 
 I've tested it in a few different scenarios and I've eliminated it on my MBP.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 1, 2017, at 22:34, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

Hi Tim. After having Voiceover read the Applevis Newsletter, I found out that 
trick doesn't work on my computer.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Nov 1, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi All,

I may have a fix for now.  It has worked for me in two different scenarios.  In the VO 
Utility, under the Web category, make sure that the "Enable Live Regions" 
checkbox is not checked.  This seems to allow VO to remain speaking for an extended 
length of time.  During this testing, I had my MBP set that the computer never goes to 
sleep, and that the display would go to sleep after one minute.  I had it read a long, 
boring legal document on school fees and VO read the entire document, then after one 
minute of silence, the Login Panel spoke.  I also tested it with a rather long 
explanation of security, authentication and authorization within the base level of the 
MacOS.  After about 10 minutes, the Login Panel had not reared its ugly head.  Of course, 
if you use the Live Regions in web-pages often, this isn't a good fix, but for now, it 
has worked for me.

Any others who wish to try this workaround/fix are welcome to do so and post 
results here.  I realize that just because it worked for me, it does not always 
mean that it will work for others in all situations.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:06, Mary Otten  wrote:

Well, all I can say is for all of those of you who have reported this, please 
do it again. Either that individual I got an Apple accessibility is clueless. 
They don’t communicate. Or whatever. And any case, maybe the squeaky wheel gets 
the grease.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

Yes, I contacted Apple about this ages and ages ago.
Christine


On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:26 AM, CHUCK REICHEL  
wrote:

Hi tim,
I logged this a year ago with an apple tech & he assured me that it was on 
apples radar and was going to be addressed in a future Sierra os release!
needless to say my mac book air is still doing the same interrupt!
LOL Talk soon Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’



On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

That's interesting.  People have been experiencing this issue since, at least, 
Sierra.  I'm sure that I also heard that someone submitted a report quite a 
while back.  Wasn't me, but I seem to recall that someone else did.  I guess I 
could have just been assuming.  Either way, not a particularly useful response 
since the majority of Apple Care reps know little about VO sorts of issues.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 1, 2017, at 08:06, Mary Otten  wrote:

Well, I got a response from Apple accessibility on this issue as well as my PDF 
issue. Regarding this one, they say no one has ever reported it to them, and I 
should get a hold of AppleCare. Nice, except that my machine is long out o

RE: Strange problem with Sophos AntiVirus

2017-11-03 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Krister,

 I know I've struck a similar situation like this a couple of years back where 
the Sophos version I used wasn't working well with I think it was OS X 10.10 at 
the time.

 We had a link to a Sophos page that had a script that you could run which 
would remove the old version of Sophos getting rid of everything from it's 
installation.

 I will check this one with our security team on Monday if you can hang on that 
long.

 Otherwise may be searching for a Sophos removal tool would be a good solution .



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 5:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange problem with Sophos AntiVirus

Hello,
I’m trying to uninstall Sophos Antivirus so that i can reinstall it again. The 
saga started a while back when i suddenly couldn’t open Sophos at all because 
it claimed that an image was missing and when i tried to quit, the application 
got into an endless loop where it popped up the dialog about that it couldn’t 
open time and time again.
I stupidly uninstalled only the application portion and forgot that deep in the 
system there was this Sophos agent that should be turned off before 
uninstalling, now the real fun begins: Every time the computer starts up i get 
this message saying that the Sophos agent couldn’t be opened because of an 
unexpected error a help button and an ok button. Pressing the ok button makes 
the dialog go away a couple minutes at best but then it comes right back again 
and pressing ok only pops it up again. I have chosen to ignore the dialog 
because i don’t know what to do and how to do it to get rid of the offending 
component and reinstall Sophos again.
I have been into the login items page, but Sophos agent can’t be found. I have 
tried to kill processes but no process with the name ”Sophos agent” is present. 
I have tried to throw away components from the /user/library but it can’t be 
done because a component is in use.
What can i do?
/Krister

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RE: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-11-03 Thread Simon Fogarty
HI ET,

Just a crazy thought,
But would like to know what happens.
 Kind of reverse psychology for Mac OS.

Good luck.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 2:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks 
and interrupt continuous reading

Ok I can try that and see. Be a while before I can do it but will report 
back shortly.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/2/2017 5:28 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> ET,
> 
> Crazy thought but what if you enable the require password restart your 
> machine a couple of times and then disable it again, Fooling the machine in 
> to the situation tim has now.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Friday, 3 November 2017 6:01 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden 
> but talks and interrupt continuous reading
> 
> Tim,
>  I do not have the require password enabled. I have tried other settings 
> to no avail.
> 
>   From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/2/2017 7:53 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> In my testing, my MBP is set to require a password after screen-lock or 
>> screen saver.  I'm not sure if those of you where it's not working have it 
>> set the same.  I will turn that feature off and see what happens to me.
>>
>> Later...
>>
>>
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2017, at 08:30, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Shawn,
>>
>> We'll have to compare even more notes.  There's got to be some settings, or 
>> combination of settings that will work for others like it seems to have for 
>> me.  I've tested it in a few different scenarios and I've eliminated it on 
>> my MBP.
>>
>> Later...
>>
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 22:34, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tim. After having Voiceover read the Applevis Newsletter, I found out 
>> that trick doesn't work on my computer.
>>
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>
>>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I may have a fix for now.  It has worked for me in two different scenarios. 
>>>  In the VO Utility, under the Web category, make sure that the "Enable Live 
>>> Regions" checkbox is not checked.  This seems to allow VO to remain 
>>> speaking for an extended length of time.  During this testing, I had my MBP 
>>> set that the computer never goes to sleep, and that the display would go to 
>>> sleep after one minute.  I had it read a long, boring legal document on 
>>> school fees and VO read the entire document, then after one minute of 
>>> silence, the Login Panel spoke.  I also tested it with a rather long 
>>> explanation of security, authentication and authorization within the base 
>>> level of the MacOS.  After about 10 minutes, the Login Panel had not reared 
>>> its ugly head.  Of course, if you use the Live Regions in web-pages often, 
>>> this isn't a good fix, but for now, it has worked for me.
>>>
>>> Any others who wish to try this workaround/fix are welcome to do so and 
>>> post results here.  I realize that just because it worked for me, it does 
>>> not always mean that it will work for others in all situations.
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>> On Nov 1, 2017, at 10:06, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, all I can say is for all of those of you who have reported this, 
>>> please do it again. Either that individual I got an Apple accessibility is 
>>> clueless. They don’t communicate. Or whatever. And any case, maybe the 
>>> squeaky wheel gets the grease.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Christine Grassman  
 wrote:

 Yes, I contacted Apple about this ages and ages ago.
 Christine

> On Nov 1, 2017, at 11:26 AM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>  wrote:
>
> Hi tim,
> I logged this a year ago with an apple tech & he assured me that it was 
> on apples radar and was going to be addressed in a future Sierra os 
> release!
> needless to say my mac book air is still doing the same interrupt!
> LOL Talk soon Chuck "God does not play dice w