Jumping to the top of inbox in Mail

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
I’m looking for a shortcut or quick way to jump to the top email in the list in 
Mail on the Mac. For some reason from time to time focus jumps to the bottom of 
the list and I have like 900 emails in there. I tried VO page up and VO home, 
but it doesn’t seam to work so I have to arrow all the way up.


Any ideas?

Nickus

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Re: Jumping to the top of inbox in Mail

[Ian Robinson]

Hi,

Option plus Cursor Up should work.

HTH.

Ian

> On 25 Aug 2017, at 10:11, Nickus de Vos  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> I’m looking for a shortcut or quick way to jump to the top email in the list 
> in Mail on the Mac. For some reason from time to time focus jumps to the 
> bottom of the list and I have like 900 emails in there. I tried VO page up 
> and VO home, but it doesn’t seam to work so I have to arrow all the way up.
> 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Nickus
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Re: Jumping to the top of inbox in Mail

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Nicos,

Pressing Command-Option up arrow will take you to the top of the list.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Aug 25, 2017, at 4:11 AM, Nickus de Vos  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> I’m looking for a shortcut or quick way to jump to the top email in the list 
> in Mail on the Mac. For some reason from time to time focus jumps to the 
> bottom of the list and I have like 900 emails in there. I tried VO page up 
> and VO home, but it doesn’t seam to work so I have to arrow all the way up.
> 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Nickus
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Re: Jumping to the top of inbox in Mail

[Nickus de Vos]

Perfect thank you, command, option and arrows does the trick.

Nickus
Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typos...

> On 25 Aug 2017, at 12:28, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hi Nicos,
> 
> Pressing Command-Option up arrow will take you to the top of the list.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Aug 25, 2017, at 4:11 AM, Nickus de Vos  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> I’m looking for a shortcut or quick way to jump to the top email in the list 
>> in Mail on the Mac. For some reason from time to time focus jumps to the 
>> bottom of the list and I have like 900 emails in there. I tried VO page up 
>> and VO home, but it doesn’t seam to work so I have to arrow all the way up.
>> 
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> Nickus
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Re: Ahead of iPhone 8, Virgin Mobile extends 'all you can eat for one year for $1' deal to switchers

[Scott Granados]

Mary, yes they do, they bought Virgin from Beardy Branson a few years ago.

> On Aug 24, 2017, at 11:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Doesn't virgin use the Sprint network? That would be a huge downside.
> Mary
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>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 7:42 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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>> 9to5Mac - Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 5:58 AM
>> Ahead of iPhone 8, Virgin Mobile extends 'all you can eat for one year for
>> $1' deal to switchers
>> 
>> Virgin Mobile really loves iPhone users . After going iPhone-only back in
>> June, and offering a really sweet deal to those buying a new phone, it has
>> now extended the offer to existing iPhone owners switching to the carrier.
>> The carrier says that any iPhone owner who ports their number to Virgin will
>> be able to get the same 'all you can eat' $1 deal for a full 12 months .
>> 
>> When you bring your existing iPhone and transfer your phone number to the
>> "Inner Circle" plan, you will enjoy 12 months of unlimited talk, text and
>> high-speed data for just $1 on Virgin Mobile's nationwide network.
>> After the first year, you'll be switched to the company's standard
>> 'unlimited everything' plan, which costs $50 per month. The deal needn't end
>> there, though: you'll get an additional six months of service for $1 if you
>> upgrade to a new iPhone.
>> As we noted before, the usual carrier caveats apply: your data usage may be
>> 'deprioritized' if you go over 23GB a month, and terminated altogether if
>> you do a lot of roaming. To qualify, you'll need an iPhone 5s or later, and
>> the offer is subject to confirmation of compatibility with Virgin's network.
>> Virgin says that the deal is open for a short time, but doesn't specify a
>> cutoff date.
>> "At Virgin Mobile, we don't like playing by the rules, even our own," said
>> Dow Draper, CEO of Virgin Mobile USA. "Consumers know that the Inner Circle
>> is the real deal, but many love their current phones or don't want to
>> upgrade yet. So, now for a short period of time, you can bring your own
>> iPhone to Virgin Mobile and enjoy everything the Inner Circle offers -
>> including the savings - $1 for 12 months of service. It's also a great way
>> to try out the Virgin Mobile network with your own iPhone."
>> It does say that there will be a $25 charge for the SIM from September 29.
>> 
>> Original Article at: 
>> https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/23/virgin-mobile-usa-1-unlimited-bring-your-own-
>> iphone/
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Re: Sprint is offering new and existing customers a free ticket to Jay-Z's 4:44 Tour

[Scott Granados]

It’s interesting how in bed with Sprint the Carters are now.  Tidal did a huge 
deal with Sprint putting many dollars in his pocket and now there’s the ticket 
offering.  I wonder how that came to be.  T-mobile you think of as being more 
the company for younger folks but there you are.
I have to say I’m not a huge fan of 444 although it’s not bad I’m more 
of a Blueprint or Black album man myself.  The American gangster soundtrack was 
also very good, not to mention a great movie but then again, anything Denzel 
Washington stars in is a great movie.
Ok, now you’ve done it Mark, it’s super quiet and still in my office, I think 
it’s time for a little JZ maybe Big Pimpin to spice up the vibe around here.:)




> On Aug 24,

> 2017, at 10:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> iMore - The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog - Thursday, August 24, 2017
> at 7:56 AM
> Sprint is offering new and existing customers a free ticket to Jay-Z's 4:44
> Tour
> If you're looking to go to Jay-Z's upcoming 4:44 tour, you won't want to
> miss this deal from our friends at Thrifter.
> Whether you are thinking about making the move to Sprint from your existing
> carrier, or are already a customer, you won't want to miss out on this
> offer. Sprint has announced that through its partnership with TIDAL it will
> be offering its customers a free ticket to Jay-Z's upcoming 4:44 tour in one
> of 10 different cities across the U.S. You will need to activate the free
> 6-month trial of TIDAL to qualify for this promotion, and if you add two or
> more lines you can qualify for two tickets.
> 
> With ticket prices for this tour starting at around $40 and going as high as
> $500, being able to score a free ticket from your cellular carrier is pretty
> awesome. The dates and locations that are included in this promotion are:
> . Las Vegas - Oct. 28
> . Miami - Nov. 12
> . Atlanta - Nov. 12
> . Boston - Nov. 25
> . Brooklyn, NY - Nov. 26
> . Brooklyn, NY - Nov. 27
> . Washington, D.C. - Nov. 29
> . Chicago - Dec. 5
> . San Diego - Dec. 19
> . Los Angeles - Dec. 21
> The catch here is that you'll only be able to score a free ticket for one
> day, August 26. You'll want to make sure that you have located the closest
> Sprint store prior to that since this offer is first come, first served. The
> tickets are not transferable, exchangeable or refundable, and if any
> scheduled event is delayed, postponed or canceled for any reason, you will
> not be reimbursed for tickets.
> 
> 
> More from Thrifter:
> For more great deals be sure to check out our friends at Thrifter now!
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.imore.com/thrifter-deal-sprint-offering-new-and-existing-custome
> rs-free-ticket-jay-zs-444-tour
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TunnelBear Completes Industry-First Consumer VPN Public Security Audit

[Traci Duncan]

VPN users on their Mac and iPhones may find this interesting.


https://www.tunnelbear.com/blog/tunnelbear_public_security_audit/


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Re: TunnelBear Completes Industry-First Consumer VPN Public Security Audit

[Jonathan Cohn]

Interesting, but there is a lot of marketing for both the Security Audit
team and the VPN provider in the report. I would expect most reputable VPN
providers (not free) would be doing equivalent audits  though apparently
Tunnel Bear is the first to put out publicity on its work.

This is the second time I have heard of Tunnel Bear and both times were
this week. The first was on a podcast. They do have the feature of
tunneling your data to a IP address in another country. I wonder if content
providers do any blacklisting of VPN providers address space.
  I listen to.

I would love to have been listening to the conversation when it was
announced that Security Bear user database had not been properly secured on
a internal machine.

On 25 August 2017 at 10:28, Traci Duncan  wrote:

> VPN users on their Mac and iPhones may find this interesting.
>
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> https://www.tunnelbear.com/blog/tunnelbear_public_security_audit/
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Re: TunnelBear Completes Industry-First Consumer VPN Public Security Audit

[Scott Granados]

One of the reasons I like to roll my own (open VPN that is) is you can host in 
datacenter that aren’t blacklisted by the content providers.

You can also set your cryptographic settings and keys to the strength you want. 
 Of course you need to know how to Harden the server itself but that’s very 
doable.


> On Aug 25, 2017, at 11:04 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Interesting, but there is a lot of marketing for both the Security Audit team 
> and the VPN provider in the report. I would expect most reputable VPN 
> providers (not free) would be doing equivalent audits  though apparently 
> Tunnel Bear is the first to put out publicity on its work. 
> 
> This is the second time I have heard of Tunnel Bear and both times were this 
> week. The first was on a podcast. They do have the feature of tunneling your 
> data to a IP address in another country. I wonder if content providers do any 
> blacklisting of VPN providers address space.  
>   I listen to. 
> 
> I would love to have been listening to the conversation when it was announced 
> that Security Bear user database had not been properly secured on a internal 
> machine.   
> 
> On 25 August 2017 at 10:28, Traci Duncan  > wrote:
> VPN users on their Mac and iPhones may find this interesting.
> 
> 
> https://www.tunnelbear.com/blog/tunnelbear_public_security_audit/ 
> 
> 
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Re: Zendesk accessibility with Voiceover

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi Jonathan,

I have thought on your situation.  I think you need to first document the 
issue for yourself, including technical steps you took to solve the issue 
and time spent both on task, and working on solutions so that your company 
can see the scope of the problem.  Then you want to use your own chain of 
command.  IE, first show your document to your manager, and ask them to 
take it to the next level, keeping you in the loop as the process takes shape.

a
It may seem that you have an H r issue, but actually, you may have an IT or 
procurement issue.  Your manager is the person to get your document into 
the right hands internally.  If your manager failed to support you in your 
attempt to get the issue resolved, that would for sure be an HR issue.


In your document, you would probably be asking for one of two resolutions.
First, have IT interface with the developer of the time sheet software to 
get the bug fixed at the software level.
Second, if that fails, procure and deploy a new time tracking software 
after testing to make sure that new software meets all the company's needs 
including diversity.


If your company is a good customer, they shouldn't need to threaten to get 
things done.  Apparently zendesk was created a situation where they were 
ignoring accessibility issues and refusing to co-operate.


If you are very lucky, the software you use is developed directly by your 
company.  In that case, they can do everything internally and you can 
participate in the solution.  Clearly you have the expertese required to do 
that.


Above all, be positive and proactive.  Include your chain of command.  Be 
thurough, and give the company every possible opportunity to help you if 
they will.  If not, be sure to document that too and fall on them from a 
great height if you have to, but this issue doesn't sound like something 
you should have to put your job in jepperdy for.  Legal action or threat of 
action must be the ultimate last resourt here.


Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help, though it sounds 
like you have a good grasp of the situation.


Best,

Erik


On August 23, 2017 10:30:53 PM Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Wow, interesting my last two positions have required me to use a specific 
time keeping tool. The only way I can accurately determine what field I am 
placing my current hours in is to bring up the "id" of the HTML field 
(something like d0_12 would be the forth accounting code line  thirteen day 
on a time sheet. I started writing JAWS scripts to determine where I was 
but after one set of corruption I gave up. My company is supportive of 
diversity, but I have never talked to HR about how unusable the time system 
is. Even my sighted colleagues say it is difficult,. When I have 5 or 6 
billing codes in a time period then it takes me 15 minutes to enter my time 
and verify that it is placed correctly.
Any templates of what to say especially since I have been working with this 
company for over a year and not complained yet.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




On Aug 23, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

Hi,

I've neverr had an issue managing zendesk tickets as an end user.  Sorry to 
hear it causes issues on the back end for blind tech support employees.


I think the best way to handle this is to have the employer write a letter. 
The letter should come from the company's legal department and include 
human resource contacts.  The letter should introduce the blind employee in 
general terms and explain the hiring laws in the jurisdiction where the 
company operates.  Then it should explain that the the employee would take 
legal action against the company if the company on hiring them, did not 
ficilitate their ability to perform the essential functions of the job.  
Then it should explain that if the company were found liable for loss and 
dammages caused by technical accessibility issues, the company would be 
forced to take legal action against zendesk to recover their losses.  As a 
remedy, the letter should suggest that all three parties work together to 
address the accessibility of zendesk and thereby inprove accessibility in 
many workplaces across the technical support industry.  It definitely means 
more when accessibility is proposed by corporate account holders than it 
does when one end user tries to make noise on their own.


Best,

Erik



On August 23, 2017 9:57:49 AM Mika Pyyhkala  wrote:

I would also encourage you and others on this list to write to them
either through the official customer support channels or through
executives at the company.

I wrote to them a while back, and they basically just said that
accessibility is not a priority.

Also if they have any federal government installations that could be a
Section 508 issue.

I too found it possibly useable, although all functions may not work
and it may be cumbersome to use.

Also I'm not sure if anyone knows of a similar request management
system that is fully 

Re: Zendesk accessibility with Voiceover

[Scott Granados]

John  and Erik,
I’m very interested in this thread.  I am in the same boat with John.  
We use plan view which is absolutely tricky under both Safari and on the 
windows side with exploder.  Fields seem to move on me and appear in different 
places as well as a lot of controls that don’t seem to appear.  John, which 
time keeping tool are you using


> On Aug 25, 2017, at 11:14 AM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> I have thought on your situation.  I think you need to first document the 
> issue for yourself, including technical steps you took to solve the issue and 
> time spent both on task, and working on solutions so that your company can 
> see the scope of the problem.  Then you want to use your own chain of 
> command.  IE, first show your document to your manager, and ask them to take 
> it to the next level, keeping you in the loop as the process takes shape.
> a
> It may seem that you have an H r issue, but actually, you may have an IT or 
> procurement issue.  Your manager is the person to get your document into the 
> right hands internally.  If your manager failed to support you in your 
> attempt to get the issue resolved, that would for sure be an HR issue.
> 
> In your document, you would probably be asking for one of two resolutions.
> First, have IT interface with the developer of the time sheet software to get 
> the bug fixed at the software level.
> Second, if that fails, procure and deploy a new time tracking software after 
> testing to make sure that new software meets all the company's needs 
> including diversity.
> 
> If your company is a good customer, they shouldn't need to threaten to get 
> things done.  Apparently zendesk was created a situation where they were 
> ignoring accessibility issues and refusing to co-operate.
> 
> If you are very lucky, the software you use is developed directly by your 
> company.  In that case, they can do everything internally and you can 
> participate in the solution.  Clearly you have the expertese required to do 
> that.
> 
> Above all, be positive and proactive.  Include your chain of command.  Be 
> thurough, and give the company every possible opportunity to help you if they 
> will.  If not, be sure to document that too and fall on them from a great 
> height if you have to, but this issue doesn't sound like something you should 
> have to put your job in jepperdy for.  Legal action or threat of action must 
> be the ultimate last resourt here.
> 
> Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help, though it sounds 
> like you have a good grasp of the situation.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik
> 
> On August 23, 2017 10:30:53 PM Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
>> Wow, interesting my last two positions have required me to use a specific 
>> time keeping tool. The only way I can accurately determine what field I am 
>> placing my current hours in is to bring up the "id" of the HTML field 
>> (something like d0_12 would be the forth accounting code line  thirteen day 
>> on a time sheet. I started writing JAWS scripts to determine where I was but 
>> after one set of corruption I gave up. My company is supportive of 
>> diversity, but I have never talked to HR about how unusable the time system 
>> is. Even my sighted colleagues say it is difficult,. When I have 5 or 6 
>> billing codes in a time period then it takes me 15 minutes to enter my time 
>> and verify that it is placed correctly. 
>> Any templates of what to say especially since I have been working with this 
>> company for over a year and not complained yet.
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Erik Burggraaf >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I've neverr had an issue managing zendesk tickets as an end user.  Sorry to 
>>> hear it causes issues on the back end for blind tech support employees.
>>> 
>>> I think the best way to handle this is to have the employer write a letter. 
>>> The letter should come from the company's legal department and include 
>>> human resource contacts.  The letter should introduce the blind employee in 
>>> general terms and explain the hiring laws in the jurisdiction where the 
>>> company operates.  Then it should explain that the the employee would take 
>>> legal action against the company if the company on hiring them, did not 
>>> ficilitate their ability to perform the essential functions of the job.  
>>> Then it should explain that if the company were found liable for loss and 
>>> dammages caused by technical accessibility issues, the company would be 
>>> forced to take legal action against zendesk to recover their losses.  As a 
>>> remedy, the letter should suggest that all three parties work together to 
>>> address the accessibility of zendesk and thereby inprove accessibility in 
>>> many workplaces across the technical support industry.  It definitely means 
>>> more when accessibility is proposed by corporate account holders th

Re: Jumping to the top of inbox in Mail

[Andrew Lamanche]

In Mail, it is command+option+up or down arrow to get to top or bottom 
respectively in the list of messages. No need to interact.
> On 25 Aug 2017, at 10:11, Nickus de Vos  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> I’m looking for a shortcut or quick way to jump to the top email in the list 
> in Mail on the Mac. For some reason from time to time focus jumps to the 
> bottom of the list and I have like 900 emails in there. I tried VO page up 
> and VO home, but it doesn’t seam to work so I have to arrow all the way up.
> 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Nickus
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OT: we're pulling for you folks in the south

[Scott Granados]

Hi all, it seems important to say right now that I’m pulling for you folks down 
there in Texas and Luisiana.  That storm looks pretty rough news is reporting 
it’s approaching category 4 which is a no joke hurricane.  I lived through 
crazy weather in Florida and hurricanes in New England so I know about the ride 
you’re in for.  Don’t forget to stock up on beer and pop tarts so you have 
something to trade.;). (that’s a serious suggestion, that was standard 
procedure in our part of Florida). Keep your heads down and keep the powder 
dry.  Let us know how your doing if anyone’s in the way there.

Take care

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Re: OT: we're pulling for you folks in the south

[Joseph Hudson]

Scott, so far I'm doing well here. I'm more on the central side so I'm on the 
more lucky side. The most that we'll get out of this whole thing, is a bunch of 
rain. This will be the worst storm that we have ever had since Carla according 
to the weather staff year. That was 45 years ago. So let's hope that we can 
continue to not have another one of these for another 45 years after this 
one.Scott, so far I'm doing well here. I'm more on the central side so I'm on 
the more lucky side. The most that we'll get out of this whole thing. Mailing 
the borders of Houston are affected, and surround in areas of the coast. 
There've been four counties they have had to evacuate so far. And everybody is 
definitely evacuating. And lest they feel that they can make it through the 
stone that they made it through 45 years ago.
> On Aug 25, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, it seems important to say right now that I’m pulling for you folks 
> down there in Texas and Luisiana.  That storm looks pretty rough news is 
> reporting it’s approaching category 4 which is a no joke hurricane.  I lived 
> through crazy weather in Florida and hurricanes in New England so I know 
> about the ride you’re in for.  Don’t forget to stock up on beer and pop tarts 
> so you have something to trade.;). (that’s a serious suggestion, that was 
> standard procedure in our part of Florida). Keep your heads down and keep the 
> powder dry.  Let us know how your doing if anyone’s in the way there.
> 
> Take care
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RE: Wifi Behavior

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,

 I know every one is different but I always tell people to make both 2.4 and 5 
the same name so that it's the device that makes the choice.


This caused a few arguments recently at work because we are meant to be telling 
people to only connect to 5GHz bands due to our system being unstable 
However not all devices have been switched to multy frequency capable devices.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Friday, 25 August 2017 4:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wifi Behavior

The SSID for the 5g has 5g in its name so I know which is active. 
The ponly reason I knew it was changing bands was that my printer is not 
connected to the 5g band and its not easy to change it on the printer.

But it was fixed with a router update which I carried out yesterday.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/24/2017 7:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Use different SSIDs for 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz that way you join one or the other. 
>  Else use one SSID and let it band steer to the frequency it wants because 
> that’s usually a change do to conditions and signal strength etc.
>
>
>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 1:09 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>
>>   My Nighthawk AC1900 which supports 5g hss been commenting either to 5g or 
>> the non 5g channel on the Mac and Windows. What can I do to keep it on one 
>> or the other?
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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>> world, all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your 
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Re: Wifi Behavior

[E.T.]

Simon,
   Might do that. Are there cases where a device may not like one or 
the other band?


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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
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On 8/25/2017 3:23 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,

 I know every one is different but I always tell people to make both 2.4 and 5 
the same name so that it's the device that makes the choice.


This caused a few arguments recently at work because we are meant to be telling 
people to only connect to 5GHz bands due to our system being unstable
However not all devices have been switched to multy frequency capable devices.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Friday, 25 August 2017 4:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wifi Behavior

The SSID for the 5g has 5g in its name so I know which is active.
The ponly reason I knew it was changing bands was that my printer is not 
connected to the 5g band and its not easy to change it on the printer.

But it was fixed with a router update which I carried out yesterday.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/24/2017 7:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Use different SSIDs for 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz that way you join one or the other.  
Else use one SSID and let it band steer to the frequency it wants because 
that’s usually a change do to conditions and signal strength etc.



On Aug 23, 2017, at 1:09 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  My Nighthawk AC1900 which supports 5g hss been commenting either to 5g or the 
non 5g channel on the Mac and Windows. What can I do to keep it on one or the 
other?

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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world, all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your
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RE: Jumping to the top of inbox in Mail

[Simon Fogarty]

What about function key ctrl and up arrow to go to top of page./ document.

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On Behalf Of Ian Robinson
Sent: Friday, 25 August 2017 9:34 PM
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Subject: Re: Jumping to the top of inbox in Mail

Hi,

Option plus Cursor Up should work.

HTH.

Ian

> On 25 Aug 2017, at 10:11, Nickus de Vos  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> I’m looking for a shortcut or quick way to jump to the top email in the list 
> in Mail on the Mac. For some reason from time to time focus jumps to the 
> bottom of the list and I have like 900 emails in there. I tried VO page up 
> and VO home, but it doesn’t seam to work so I have to arrow all the way up.
> 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Nickus
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RE: Sprint is offering new and existing customers a free ticket to Jay-Z's 4:44 Tour

[Simon Fogarty]

I don't understand you folks,

 Some one on the street could offer me tickets to this guy and I'd say NO!

Now if someone like Vodafone NZ offered me tickets and the tools to go back in 
time and see queen live at Wembley stadium in 86 then I'd be kissing that 
company 

Or even the orgional pink Floyd the wall concert.

 Reall music for me none of this digital hip hop bull!

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, 26 August 2017 1:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sprint is offering new and existing customers a free ticket to 
Jay-Z's 4:44 Tour


It’s interesting how in bed with Sprint the Carters are now.  Tidal did a huge 
deal with Sprint putting many dollars in his pocket and now there’s the ticket 
offering.  I wonder how that came to be.  T-mobile you think of as being more 
the company for younger folks but there you are.
I have to say I’m not a huge fan of 444 although it’s not bad I’m more 
of a Blueprint or Black album man myself.  The American gangster soundtrack was 
also very good, not to mention a great movie but then again, anything Denzel 
Washington stars in is a great movie.
Ok, now you’ve done it Mark, it’s super quiet and still in my office, I think 
it’s time for a little JZ maybe Big Pimpin to spice up the vibe around here.:)




> On Aug 24,

> 2017, at 10:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> iMore - The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog - Thursday, August 
> 24, 2017 at 7:56 AM Sprint is offering new and existing customers a 
> free ticket to Jay-Z's 4:44 Tour If you're looking to go to Jay-Z's 
> upcoming 4:44 tour, you won't want to miss this deal from our friends 
> at Thrifter.
> Whether you are thinking about making the move to Sprint from your 
> existing carrier, or are already a customer, you won't want to miss 
> out on this offer. Sprint has announced that through its partnership 
> with TIDAL it will be offering its customers a free ticket to Jay-Z's 
> upcoming 4:44 tour in one of 10 different cities across the U.S. You 
> will need to activate the free 6-month trial of TIDAL to qualify for 
> this promotion, and if you add two or more lines you can qualify for two 
> tickets.
> 
> With ticket prices for this tour starting at around $40 and going as 
> high as $500, being able to score a free ticket from your cellular 
> carrier is pretty awesome. The dates and locations that are included in this 
> promotion are:
> . Las Vegas - Oct. 28
> . Miami - Nov. 12
> . Atlanta - Nov. 12
> . Boston - Nov. 25
> . Brooklyn, NY - Nov. 26
> . Brooklyn, NY - Nov. 27
> . Washington, D.C. - Nov. 29
> . Chicago - Dec. 5
> . San Diego - Dec. 19
> . Los Angeles - Dec. 21
> The catch here is that you'll only be able to score a free ticket for 
> one day, August 26. You'll want to make sure that you have located the 
> closest Sprint store prior to that since this offer is first come, 
> first served. The tickets are not transferable, exchangeable or 
> refundable, and if any scheduled event is delayed, postponed or 
> canceled for any reason, you will not be reimbursed for tickets.
> 
> 
> More from Thrifter:
> For more great deals be sure to check out our friends at Thrifter now!
> 
> Original Article at:
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RE: Ahead of iPhone 8, Virgin Mobile extends 'all you can eat for one year for $1' deal to switchers

[Simon Fogarty]

Hell, this is a great sounding package from virgin,

 Sir Richard must be rubbing his hands together over this one.

 Wonder when we'll get virgins here in NZ!


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Sent: Friday, 25 August 2017 3:32 PM
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Subject: Re: Ahead of iPhone 8, Virgin Mobile extends 'all you can eat for one 
year for $1' deal to switchers

Doesn't virgin use the Sprint network? That would be a huge downside.
Mary


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> On Aug 24, 2017, at 7:42 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> 9to5Mac - Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 5:58 AM Ahead of iPhone 8, 
> Virgin Mobile extends 'all you can eat for one year for $1' deal to 
> switchers
> 
> Virgin Mobile really loves iPhone users . After going iPhone-only back 
> in June, and offering a really sweet deal to those buying a new phone, 
> it has now extended the offer to existing iPhone owners switching to the 
> carrier.
> The carrier says that any iPhone owner who ports their number to 
> Virgin will be able to get the same 'all you can eat' $1 deal for a full 12 
> months .
> 
> When you bring your existing iPhone and transfer your phone number to 
> the "Inner Circle" plan, you will enjoy 12 months of unlimited talk, 
> text and high-speed data for just $1 on Virgin Mobile's nationwide network.
> After the first year, you'll be switched to the company's standard 
> 'unlimited everything' plan, which costs $50 per month. The deal 
> needn't end there, though: you'll get an additional six months of 
> service for $1 if you upgrade to a new iPhone.
> As we noted before, the usual carrier caveats apply: your data usage 
> may be 'deprioritized' if you go over 23GB a month, and terminated 
> altogether if you do a lot of roaming. To qualify, you'll need an 
> iPhone 5s or later, and the offer is subject to confirmation of compatibility 
> with Virgin's network.
> Virgin says that the deal is open for a short time, but doesn't 
> specify a cutoff date.
> "At Virgin Mobile, we don't like playing by the rules, even our own," 
> said Dow Draper, CEO of Virgin Mobile USA. "Consumers know that the 
> Inner Circle is the real deal, but many love their current phones or 
> don't want to upgrade yet. So, now for a short period of time, you can 
> bring your own iPhone to Virgin Mobile and enjoy everything the Inner 
> Circle offers - including the savings - $1 for 12 months of service. 
> It's also a great way to try out the Virgin Mobile network with your own 
> iPhone."
> It does say that there will be a $25 charge for the SIM from September 29.
> 
> Original Article at: 
> https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/23/virgin-mobile-usa-1-unlimited-bring-you
> r-own-
> iphone/
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RE: Wifi Behavior

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah if it's old enough to not have 5GHz, or some dum ass turns one off.



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On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Saturday, 26 August 2017 10:43 AM
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Subject: Re: Wifi Behavior

Simon,
Might do that. Are there cases where a device may not like one or the other 
band?

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   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/25/2017 3:23 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> Hi ET,
>
>  I know every one is different but I always tell people to make both 2.4 and 
> 5 the same name so that it's the device that makes the choice.
>
>
> This caused a few arguments recently at work because we are meant to 
> be telling people to only connect to 5GHz bands due to our system being 
> unstable However not all devices have been switched to multy frequency 
> capable devices.
>
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Friday, 25 August 2017 4:35 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wifi Behavior
>
> The SSID for the 5g has 5g in its name so I know which is active.
> The ponly reason I knew it was changing bands was that my printer is not 
> connected to the 5g band and its not easy to change it on the printer.
>
> But it was fixed with a router update which I carried out yesterday.
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 8/24/2017 7:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Use different SSIDs for 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz that way you join one or the 
>> other.  Else use one SSID and let it band steer to the frequency it wants 
>> because that’s usually a change do to conditions and signal strength etc.
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 1:09 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>
>>>   My Nighthawk AC1900 which supports 5g hss been commenting either to 5g or 
>>> the non 5g channel on the Mac and Windows. What can I do to keep it on one 
>>> or the other?
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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>>> world, all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn your 
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vpn services

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Scott and anyone else with thoughts on this.

I'm looking for a VPN service either existing that I can use to connect from my 
mac book air or iPad / iPhone to my home systems which consist of a couple of 
mac minis and windows servers 2012R2 and others.

I just want something to connect from the remote device to the home end and 
then rdp into what I need at the time to access.
I'm not sure free is the best option but thoughts greatfully appreciated.


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RE: Ahead of iPhone 8, Virgin Mobile extends 'all you can eat for one year for $1' deal to switchers

[Karen Lewellen]

They do exist in Canada, but I suspect that sweet a deal is not on the 
menu here.

Kare


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skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
opposite." Nelson Mandela.

On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Simon Fogarty wrote:


Hell, this is a great sounding package from virgin,

Sir Richard must be rubbing his hands together over this one.

Wonder when we'll get virgins here in NZ!


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, 25 August 2017 3:32 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ahead of iPhone 8, Virgin Mobile extends 'all you can eat for one 
year for $1' deal to switchers

Doesn't virgin use the Sprint network? That would be a huge downside.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 24, 2017, at 7:42 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

9to5Mac - Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 5:58 AM Ahead of iPhone 8,
Virgin Mobile extends 'all you can eat for one year for $1' deal to
switchers

Virgin Mobile really loves iPhone users . After going iPhone-only back
in June, and offering a really sweet deal to those buying a new phone,
it has now extended the offer to existing iPhone owners switching to the 
carrier.
The carrier says that any iPhone owner who ports their number to
Virgin will be able to get the same 'all you can eat' $1 deal for a full 12 
months .

When you bring your existing iPhone and transfer your phone number to
the "Inner Circle" plan, you will enjoy 12 months of unlimited talk,
text and high-speed data for just $1 on Virgin Mobile's nationwide network.
After the first year, you'll be switched to the company's standard
'unlimited everything' plan, which costs $50 per month. The deal
needn't end there, though: you'll get an additional six months of
service for $1 if you upgrade to a new iPhone.
As we noted before, the usual carrier caveats apply: your data usage
may be 'deprioritized' if you go over 23GB a month, and terminated
altogether if you do a lot of roaming. To qualify, you'll need an
iPhone 5s or later, and the offer is subject to confirmation of compatibility 
with Virgin's network.
Virgin says that the deal is open for a short time, but doesn't
specify a cutoff date.
"At Virgin Mobile, we don't like playing by the rules, even our own,"
said Dow Draper, CEO of Virgin Mobile USA. "Consumers know that the
Inner Circle is the real deal, but many love their current phones or
don't want to upgrade yet. So, now for a short period of time, you can
bring your own iPhone to Virgin Mobile and enjoy everything the Inner
Circle offers - including the savings - $1 for 12 months of service.
It's also a great way to try out the Virgin Mobile network with your own 
iPhone."
It does say that there will be a $25 charge for the SIM from September 29.

Original Article at:
https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/23/virgin-mobile-usa-1-unlimited-bring-you
r-own-
iphone/


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Re: vpn services

[Tim Kilburn]

Simon,

I would suggest you use, and do use myself already, MacOS X Server.  Since you 
already have Minis, you would just need the Server app, available from the App 
Store.  The VPN service is easily configurable.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 25, 2017, at 16:54, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Scott and anyone else with thoughts on this.
 
I’m looking for a VPN service either existing that I can use to connect from my 
mac book air or iPad / iPhone to my home systems which consist of a couple of 
mac minis and windows servers 2012R2 and others.
 
I just want something to connect from the remote device to the home end and 
then rdp into what I need at the time to access.
I’m not sure free is the best option but thoughts greatfully appreciated.
 
 

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Re: Wifi Behavior

[Tim Kilburn]

ET,

Normally, your device will choose the 5 GHz band if it is a strong enough 
signal.  Otherwise, it will grab the 2.4 GHz one.  When they have the same 
name, as Simon mentioned, your device decides.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 25, 2017, at 16:42, E.T.  wrote:

Simon,
  Might do that. Are there cases where a device may not like one or the other 
band?

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On 8/25/2017 3:23 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> Hi ET,
> 
> I know every one is different but I always tell people to make both 2.4 and 5 
> the same name so that it's the device that makes the choice.
> 
> 
> This caused a few arguments recently at work because we are meant to be 
> telling people to only connect to 5GHz bands due to our system being unstable
> However not all devices have been switched to multy frequency capable devices.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Friday, 25 August 2017 4:35 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wifi Behavior
> 
>The SSID for the 5g has 5g in its name so I know which is active.
> The ponly reason I knew it was changing bands was that my printer is not 
> connected to the 5g band and its not easy to change it on the printer.
> 
>But it was fixed with a router update which I carried out yesterday.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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>   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 8/24/2017 7:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Use different SSIDs for 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz that way you join one or the 
>> other.  Else use one SSID and let it band steer to the frequency it wants 
>> because that’s usually a change do to conditions and signal strength etc.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 1:09 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  My Nighthawk AC1900 which supports 5g hss been commenting either to 5g or 
>>> the non 5g channel on the Mac and Windows. What can I do to keep it on one 
>>> or the other?
>>> 
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Re: OT: we're pulling for you folks in the south

[Eric Whitten]

I am in Louisiana. I think it is going to hit Texas first, and then not sure 
from there. I think that we are going to get some rain, but not srue how much. 

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Re: Screenshot with Voiceover

[E.T.]

   Just a FYI to say that doing a PRAM fixed this for me.

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On 8/24/2017 11:05 AM, E.T. wrote:

   VO-shift-c does that and works still. Its VO-shift-z that no longer
works for me under Sierra and I cannot find where to check if it got
changed somewhere in preferences. The command works in High Sierra.

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On 8/24/2017 10:02 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

I believe that is what it is supposed to announce.  Once the phrase
has been copied to the clipboard, you can paste it into a TextEdit
document or such and it can be read out later.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 24, 2017, at 06:50, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Does not work here.
It just says something about last phrase copied to clipboard.



23 aug. 2017 kl. 21:18 skrev E.T. :

 Thanks for that one Anne. May come in handy.

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On 8/23/2017 8:12 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

Hello ET,

VO-Shift-z captures the last phrase spoken by VoiceOver and saves it
to the desktop as an audio file.

Cheers,

Anne




On 23 Aug 2017, at 17:00, E.T.  wrote:

Is it possible to take a screenshot or make a video that captures
the Voiceover speech? I may need to do this to help resolve an
issue in Dropbox.

In case someone may already have a solution, the issue occurs when
one needs to sign into Dropbox on the Mac. Both the email address
and password fields are totally silent, no typing feedback of any
kind. Voiceover speaks the rest of the dialog just fine.

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Re: OT: we're pulling for you folks in the south

[lenron brown]

Yeah it looks pretty bad. I am a bit to the east of the storm. I am in
south Louisiana about 45 minutes from Baton rouge and about 4 and a
half from Houston. We are suppose to get a lot of rain tomorrow.

On 8/25/17, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> Scott, so far I'm doing well here. I'm more on the central side so I'm on
> the more lucky side. The most that we'll get out of this whole thing, is a
> bunch of rain. This will be the worst storm that we have ever had since
> Carla according to the weather staff year. That was 45 years ago. So let's
> hope that we can continue to not have another one of these for another 45
> years after this one.Scott, so far I'm doing well here. I'm more on the
> central side so I'm on the more lucky side. The most that we'll get out of
> this whole thing. Mailing the borders of Houston are affected, and surround
> in areas of the coast. There've been four counties they have had to evacuate
> so far. And everybody is definitely evacuating. And lest they feel that they
> can make it through the stone that they made it through 45 years ago.
>> On Aug 25, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Scott Granados 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, it seems important to say right now that I’m pulling for you folks
>> down there in Texas and Luisiana.  That storm looks pretty rough news is
>> reporting it’s approaching category 4 which is a no joke hurricane.  I
>> lived through crazy weather in Florida and hurricanes in New England so I
>> know about the ride you’re in for.  Don’t forget to stock up on beer and
>> pop tarts so you have something to trade.;). (that’s a serious suggestion,
>> that was standard procedure in our part of Florida). Keep your heads down
>> and keep the powder dry.  Let us know how your doing if anyone’s in the
>> way there.
>>
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RE: vpn services

[Simon Fogarty]

And the fact I’m going to be connecting to windows servers and workstations via 
this connection shouldn’t be an issue?

I do already have sierra server on one of my minis.

I’ll have a look and see what happens.

Thanks Tim,

I take it your out of the fire zone this time?

Sounds pretty bad over there in Canada currently.

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Subject: Re: vpn services

Simon,

I would suggest you use, and do use myself already, MacOS X Server.  Since you 
already have Minis, you would just need the Server app, available from the App 
Store.  The VPN service is easily configurable.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 25, 2017, at 16:54, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Scott and anyone else with thoughts on this.

I’m looking for a VPN service either existing that I can use to connect from my 
mac book air or iPad / iPhone to my home systems which consist of a couple of 
mac minis and windows servers 2012R2 and others.

I just want something to connect from the remote device to the home end and 
then rdp into what I need at the time to access.
I’m not sure free is the best option but thoughts greatfully appreciated.



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Re: OT: we're pulling for you folks in the south

[Eric Whitten]

I am north of New Orleans. I think that we are suppose to get the rain starting 
Sunday. Not sure how much. I am keeping you guys that are near Korpis and 
Houston in my preyers.

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Your starter disk is full

[George Cassell]

So now what?  What is my starter disk, and where can I find it to delete 
messages now that it is full?


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Magnification and VoiceOver at the same time

[Ryan Mann]

I thought it was possible to use VoiceOver and zoom at the same time.  However, 
my friend says that when she has VoiceOver turned on, she cannot use Zoom to 
magnify the screen.  Is this not possible?


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Re: Your starter disk is full

[E.T.]

   Startup. That is the drive your macOS is installed on and is 
referred to as the startup disk. First, empty the trash. Then open 
Finder and start looking at what else you may want to delete or move to 
external storage. Look in Documents, your iTunes library, etc.


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On 8/25/2017 7:42 PM, George Cassell wrote:

So now what?  What is my starter disk, and where can I find it to delete 
messages now that it is full?




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Re: Wifi Behavior

[E.T.]

   Thanks Tim, I understand now. I just made the change in the router 
and will monitor things.


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On 8/25/2017 4:29 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

ET,

Normally, your device will choose the 5 GHz band if it is a strong enough 
signal.  Otherwise, it will grab the 2.4 GHz one.  When they have the same 
name, as Simon mentioned, your device decides.

Later...

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On Aug 25, 2017, at 16:42, E.T.  wrote:

Simon,
  Might do that. Are there cases where a device may not like one or the other 
band?

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On 8/25/2017 3:23 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,

I know every one is different but I always tell people to make both 2.4 and 5 
the same name so that it's the device that makes the choice.


This caused a few arguments recently at work because we are meant to be telling 
people to only connect to 5GHz bands due to our system being unstable
However not all devices have been switched to multy frequency capable devices.

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On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Friday, 25 August 2017 4:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wifi Behavior

   The SSID for the 5g has 5g in its name so I know which is active.
The ponly reason I knew it was changing bands was that my printer is not 
connected to the 5g band and its not easy to change it on the printer.

   But it was fixed with a router update which I carried out yesterday.

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On 8/24/2017 7:12 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Use different SSIDs for 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz that way you join one or the other.  
Else use one SSID and let it band steer to the frequency it wants because 
that’s usually a change do to conditions and signal strength etc.



On Aug 23, 2017, at 1:09 PM, E.T.  wrote:

 My Nighthawk AC1900 which supports 5g hss been commenting either to 5g or the 
non 5g channel on the Mac and Windows. What can I do to keep it on one or the 
other?

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Re: Sierra Contacts

[E.T.]

Jonathan,
   Its a bug. Heh it sure is not a feature. Interesting that just 
pressing option triggers this. Even when focus is not on a contact.


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On 8/23/2017 6:47 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

Actually it is spoken when the option key is pressed by itself. If you
press control then option , and then lift option and finally lift
control it will not speak.

I checked with a sighted partner and it does not show on screen.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan

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Re: OT: we're pulling for you folks in the south

[Ray Foret jr]

I am fifty miles south west of New Orleans myself:  in Houma.

Y’all stay safe will ya?


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> On Aug 25, 2017, at 9:33 PM, Eric Whitten  wrote:
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> I am north of New Orleans. I think that we are suppose to get the rain 
> starting Sunday. Not sure how much. I am keeping you guys that are near 
> Korpis and Houston in my preyers.
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Re: vpn services

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Simon,

Yes, it's simply a tunnel so as long as you enter the proper credentials, it 
shouldn't matter whether you're dealing with Mac or Windows.

Yes, I'm out of the fire zone this year.  Nothing left to burn around us :).  
There have been some smaller fires within 70 to 80 kilometres but not really 
any big concerns to many of us.  The worst of it all is in British Columbia, 
just on the other side of the Rockies from us.  My Dad lives close to a rather 
aggressive one that ignited a couple of days ago, but so far he's not worried.  
Lots of smoke and often difficult to see particularly far, and rough for folks 
with respiratory ailments.

Let me know if you have any issues trying to set things up.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 25, 2017, at 20:00, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

And the fact I’m going to be connecting to windows servers and workstations via 
this connection shouldn’t be an issue?
 
I do already have sierra server on one of my minis.
 
I’ll have a look and see what happens.
 
Thanks Tim,
 
I take it your out of the fire zone this time?
 
Sounds pretty bad over there in Canada currently.
 
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Sent: Saturday, 26 August 2017 11:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: vpn services
 
Simon,
 
I would suggest you use, and do use myself already, MacOS X Server.  Since you 
already have Minis, you would just need the Server app, available from the App 
Store.  The VPN service is easily configurable.
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
 
On Aug 25, 2017, at 16:54, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Scott and anyone else with thoughts on this.
 
I’m looking for a VPN service either existing that I can use to connect from my 
mac book air or iPad / iPhone to my home systems which consist of a couple of 
mac minis and windows servers 2012R2 and others.
 
I just want something to connect from the remote device to the home end and 
then rdp into what I need at the time to access.
I’m not sure free is the best option but thoughts greatfully appreciated.
 
 
 
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Re: OT: we're pulling for you folks in the south

[Tim Kilburn]

Stay safe down there.  Rooting for you from up here in the north, eh.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 25, 2017, at 21:27, Ray Foret jr  wrote:

I am fifty miles south west of New Orleans myself:  in Houma.

Y’all stay safe will ya?


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Twilio Console question re: phone number selection

[Michael Babcock]

Hi all:
Working on a few projects that require me to use Twilio…
OK, so the fact that Twilio integrates with Zapier and the new IP PBX system I 
just built may have a little to do with my  needing to go with them.
And I love there number selection two…
😜
Hears the problem I run into though

When I select a phone number from a search page, e.g.

https://www.twilio.com/console/phone-numbers/search/buy/results?Country=US&searchType=number&searchTerm=tt&align=right&capability%5B%5D=any&type%5B%5D=any&requirement%5B%5D=any&beta%5B%5D=true
 


(You may need an account to see the above page).
I select a number that I want in the table, and to the far right of it is 
a"buy" link.

When I select this link, voiceover doesn't appear to do anything, however I 
noticed that there's a confirmation dialog box voiceover seas towards the 
bottom of the page.

Most of the time, when I inquire dialogs like these, I can interact with them 
and then select the desired auction.

However using Safari or chrome, I can't seem to access the option to allow me 
to buy the phone number.

My next step is to contact  their support team, but I was curious if anyone had 
encountered something like this and if they have any suggestions I might try?

Hoping all are doing well.
best.
michael
PS, or do you know of a Sip based provider that will allow me to both send and 
receive SMS messages?

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Re: Ahead of iPhone 8, Virgin Mobile extends 'all you can eat for one year for $1' deal to switchers

[lenron brown]

Sprint is bad enough, so there is no way I would take my IPhone to the
knock off version. Well to be fair it might be ok if I unlocked my
T-Mo 6s plus and put it on the net work for a year. Just for when I am
in areas with bad service I could just switch phones.

On 8/25/17, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> They do exist in Canada, but I suspect that sweet a deal is not on the
> menu here.
> Kare
>
>
> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
> hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
> love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
> opposite." Nelson Mandela.
>
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>
>> Hell, this is a great sounding package from virgin,
>>
>> Sir Richard must be rubbing his hands together over this one.
>>
>> Wonder when we'll get virgins here in NZ!
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Friday, 25 August 2017 3:32 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Ahead of iPhone 8, Virgin Mobile extends 'all you can eat for
>> one year for $1' deal to switchers
>>
>> Doesn't virgin use the Sprint network? That would be a huge downside.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 7:42 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>
>>> 9to5Mac - Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 5:58 AM Ahead of iPhone 8,
>>> Virgin Mobile extends 'all you can eat for one year for $1' deal to
>>> switchers
>>>
>>> Virgin Mobile really loves iPhone users . After going iPhone-only back
>>> in June, and offering a really sweet deal to those buying a new phone,
>>> it has now extended the offer to existing iPhone owners switching to the
>>> carrier.
>>> The carrier says that any iPhone owner who ports their number to
>>> Virgin will be able to get the same 'all you can eat' $1 deal for a full
>>> 12 months .
>>>
>>> When you bring your existing iPhone and transfer your phone number to
>>> the "Inner Circle" plan, you will enjoy 12 months of unlimited talk,
>>> text and high-speed data for just $1 on Virgin Mobile's nationwide
>>> network.
>>> After the first year, you'll be switched to the company's standard
>>> 'unlimited everything' plan, which costs $50 per month. The deal
>>> needn't end there, though: you'll get an additional six months of
>>> service for $1 if you upgrade to a new iPhone.
>>> As we noted before, the usual carrier caveats apply: your data usage
>>> may be 'deprioritized' if you go over 23GB a month, and terminated
>>> altogether if you do a lot of roaming. To qualify, you'll need an
>>> iPhone 5s or later, and the offer is subject to confirmation of
>>> compatibility with Virgin's network.
>>> Virgin says that the deal is open for a short time, but doesn't
>>> specify a cutoff date.
>>> "At Virgin Mobile, we don't like playing by the rules, even our own,"
>>> said Dow Draper, CEO of Virgin Mobile USA. "Consumers know that the
>>> Inner Circle is the real deal, but many love their current phones or
>>> don't want to upgrade yet. So, now for a short period of time, you can
>>> bring your own iPhone to Virgin Mobile and enjoy everything the Inner
>>> Circle offers - including the savings - $1 for 12 months of service.
>>> It's also a great way to try out the Virgin Mobile network with your own
>>> iPhone."
>>> It does say that there will be a $25 charge for the SIM from September
>>> 29.
>>>
>>> Original Article at:
>>> https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/23/virgin-mobile-usa-1-unlimited-bring-you
>>> r-own-
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Re: Sprint is offering new and existing customers a free ticket to Jay-Z's 4:44 Tour

[lenron brown]

I must agree Scott. I am more a fan of his older stuff, Blueprint was
probably my favorite album. Now now Simon we all have different taste.
I can listen to a bunch of different things. It really depends on my
mood.

On 8/25/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> I don't understand you folks,
>
>  Some one on the street could offer me tickets to this guy and I'd say NO!
>
> Now if someone like Vodafone NZ offered me tickets and the tools to go back
> in time and see queen live at Wembley stadium in 86 then I'd be kissing that
> company
>
> Or even the orgional pink Floyd the wall concert.
>
>  Reall music for me none of this digital hip hop bull!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Saturday, 26 August 2017 1:38 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sprint is offering new and existing customers a free ticket to
> Jay-Z's 4:44 Tour
>
>
> It’s interesting how in bed with Sprint the Carters are now.  Tidal did a
> huge deal with Sprint putting many dollars in his pocket and now there’s the
> ticket offering.  I wonder how that came to be.  T-mobile you think of as
> being more the company for younger folks but there you are.
>   I have to say I’m not a huge fan of 444 although it’s not bad I’m more 
> of a
> Blueprint or Black album man myself.  The American gangster soundtrack was
> also very good, not to mention a great movie but then again, anything Denzel
> Washington stars in is a great movie.
> Ok, now you’ve done it Mark, it’s super quiet and still in my office, I
> think it’s time for a little JZ maybe Big Pimpin to spice up the vibe around
> here.:)
>
>
>
>
>> On Aug 24,
>
>> 2017, at 10:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> iMore - The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog - Thursday, August
>> 24, 2017 at 7:56 AM Sprint is offering new and existing customers a
>> free ticket to Jay-Z's 4:44 Tour If you're looking to go to Jay-Z's
>> upcoming 4:44 tour, you won't want to miss this deal from our friends
>> at Thrifter.
>> Whether you are thinking about making the move to Sprint from your
>> existing carrier, or are already a customer, you won't want to miss
>> out on this offer. Sprint has announced that through its partnership
>> with TIDAL it will be offering its customers a free ticket to Jay-Z's
>> upcoming 4:44 tour in one of 10 different cities across the U.S. You
>> will need to activate the free 6-month trial of TIDAL to qualify for
>> this promotion, and if you add two or more lines you can qualify for two
>> tickets.
>>
>> With ticket prices for this tour starting at around $40 and going as
>> high as $500, being able to score a free ticket from your cellular
>> carrier is pretty awesome. The dates and locations that are included in
>> this promotion are:
>> .Las Vegas - Oct. 28
>> .Miami - Nov. 12
>> .Atlanta - Nov. 12
>> .Boston - Nov. 25
>> .Brooklyn, NY - Nov. 26
>> .Brooklyn, NY - Nov. 27
>> .Washington, D.C. - Nov. 29
>> .Chicago - Dec. 5
>> .San Diego - Dec. 19
>> .Los Angeles - Dec. 21
>> The catch here is that you'll only be able to score a free ticket for
>> one day, August 26. You'll want to make sure that you have located the
>> closest Sprint store prior to that since this offer is first come,
>> first served. The tickets are not transferable, exchangeable or
>> refundable, and if any scheduled event is delayed, postponed or
>> canceled for any reason, you will not be reimbursed for tickets.
>>
>>
>> More from Thrifter:
>> For more great deals be sure to check out our friends at Thrifter now!
>>
>> Original Article at:
>> https://www.imore.com/thrifter-deal-sprint-offering-new-and-existing-c
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