Re: MS Word jumps to the top

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Larry,

I don’t use Word but this doesn’t happen to me in Pages. Is your mouse 
following your other cursors? If so, try changing it to Ignore the other 
cursors.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 28 Jul 2016, at 00:48, Larry Thacker Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> When Working in MS Word, if I switch away from the document I’m working on 
> and come back.  The cursor jumps back to the top of the document.  I’m pretty 
> sure I saw this happen in Pages too, but I wouldn’t swear to it.  Is there 
> any way to stop this from happening?  It’s quite annoying as I am constantly 
> switching between applications as I research what I’m working on.
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Re: How to check to see if Flash is turned on?

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Donna,

In Safari, go to Preferences, then choose security tab and then find the 
checkbox "enable plugins".  Having insured it is checked, immediately to the 
right of it is "plugins settings" button.  Press it and you will be in a new 
window.  Examine it as there are various functions there.  One of the functions 
is to enable plugins for all or for a a particular web page.  So you can either 
have flash enabled for all pages or have it disabled but you can then enable 
flash for individual page.  In the latter case, you first go to the page on 
which you wish flash to be active, and only then do you go to 
preferences/security/plugins settings.  The table to the very left will give 
you status of flash for a particular page you are on.

Hope this will help a little.

Andrew
> On 27 Jul 2016, at 21:53, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> I'm having trouble playing some web content.  Anyone know how I can confirm 
> that Flash is enabled?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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RE: if there is anyone using the beta of OS Sierra could you please right to me off list?

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah I also tried subscribing  a couple of weeks ago and still no reply 

That's for the IOS beta email list.



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Subject: Re: if there is anyone using the beta of OS Sierra could you please 
right to me off list?

hey,
could you please post that link?
i think i know the list and if it's the one i'm thinking of you have to be 
approved and i have been waiting over 3 weeks.
> On 27 Jul. 2016, at 6:50 pm, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Also, Matt Dierckens who's on this list hosts a Roger group for beta testers 
> to talk about iOS 10 and MacOS Sierra. The link to join should be in the 
> archives but if not Matt can repost.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
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>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 1:30 AM, Michael Marshall  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hey,
>> since we can not talk or ask questions about the betas of IOS or mac OS 
>> because of the ridiculous MDA i'm asking if any testers could contact me off 
>> list?
>> I wish to compare notes on some things that i have found.
>> 
>> thanks for any help
>> 
>> Michael
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Re: if there is anyone using the beta of OS Sierra could you please right to me off list?

[Michael Marshall]

I have never understood why Apple does not allow public discussion these days.
all this does is prevent users from openly talking about possible problems and 
formulating solutions.
> On 28 Jul. 2016, at 6:32 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I also tried subscribing  a couple of weeks ago and still no reply 
> 
> That's for the IOS beta email list.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
> Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2016 9:05 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: if there is anyone using the beta of OS Sierra could you please 
> right to me off list?
> 
> hey,
> could you please post that link?
> i think i know the list and if it's the one i'm thinking of you have to be 
> approved and i have been waiting over 3 weeks.
>> On 27 Jul. 2016, at 6:50 pm, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> Also, Matt Dierckens who's on this list hosts a Roger group for beta testers 
>> to talk about iOS 10 and MacOS Sierra. The link to join should be in the 
>> archives but if not Matt can repost.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
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>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 1:30 AM, Michael Marshall  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hey,
>>> since we can not talk or ask questions about the betas of IOS or mac OS 
>>> because of the ridiculous MDA i'm asking if any testers could contact me 
>>> off list?
>>> I wish to compare notes on some things that i have found.
>>> 
>>> thanks for any help
>>> 
>>> Michael
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Re: How to check to see if Flash is turned on?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Andrew,

This is helpful, thank you.  I actually got the content to play last night, 
turned out I needed to use a mouse click rather than space or enter to start 
the video.  But it's still good to know how to turn plug-ins on and off.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jul 28, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> In Safari, go to Preferences, then choose security tab and then find the 
> checkbox "enable plugins".  Having insured it is checked, immediately to the 
> right of it is "plugins settings" button.  Press it and you will be in a new 
> window.  Examine it as there are various functions there.  One of the 
> functions is to enable plugins for all or for a a particular web page.  So 
> you can either have flash enabled for all pages or have it disabled but you 
> can then enable flash for individual page.  In the latter case, you first go 
> to the page on which you wish flash to be active, and only then do you go to 
> preferences/security/plugins settings.  The table to the very left will give 
> you status of flash for a particular page you are on.
> 
> Hope this will help a little.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 27 Jul 2016, at 21:53, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm having trouble playing some web content.  Anyone know how I can confirm 
>> that Flash is enabled?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: if there is anyone using the beta of OS Sierra could you please right to me off list?

[Matthew Dierckens]

To all who have subscribed to the list, we will get to your messages shortly.
I am in the process of moving, and Aleeha is currently at the seeing eye 
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God bless.
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> On Jul 28, 2016, at 04:44, Michael Marshall  wrote:
> 
> I have never understood why Apple does not allow public discussion these days.
> all this does is prevent users from openly talking about possible problems 
> and formulating solutions.
>> On 28 Jul. 2016, at 6:32 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I also tried subscribing  a couple of weeks ago and still no reply 
>> 
>> That's for the IOS beta email list.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
>> Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2016 9:05 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: if there is anyone using the beta of OS Sierra could you please 
>> right to me off list?
>> 
>> hey,
>> could you please post that link?
>> i think i know the list and if it's the one i'm thinking of you have to be 
>> approved and i have been waiting over 3 weeks.
>>> On 27 Jul. 2016, at 6:50 pm, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Also, Matt Dierckens who's on this list hosts a Roger group for beta 
>>> testers to talk about iOS 10 and MacOS Sierra. The link to join should be 
>>> in the archives but if not Matt can repost.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Jul 26, 2016, at 1:30 AM, Michael Marshall  
 wrote:
 
 hey,
 since we can not talk or ask questions about the betas of IOS or mac OS 
 because of the ridiculous MDA i'm asking if any testers could contact me 
 off list?
 I wish to compare notes on some things that i have found.
 
 thanks for any help
 
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Re: if there is anyone using the beta of OS Sierra could you please right to me off list?

[Michael Marshall]

cool, thanks for that.
> On 28 Jul. 2016, at 11:31 pm, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
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> I am in the process of moving, and Aleeha is currently at the seeing eye 
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> God bless.
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>> On Jul 28, 2016, at 04:44, Michael Marshall > > wrote:
>> 
>> I have never understood why Apple does not allow public discussion these 
>> days.
>> all this does is prevent users from openly talking about possible problems 
>> and formulating solutions.
>>> On 28 Jul. 2016, at 6:32 pm, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah I also tried subscribing  a couple of weeks ago and still no reply 
>>> 
>>> That's for the IOS beta email list.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2016 9:05 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: if there is anyone using the beta of OS Sierra could you 
>>> please right to me off list?
>>> 
>>> hey,
>>> could you please post that link?
>>> i think i know the list and if it's the one i'm thinking of you have to be 
>>> approved and i have been waiting over 3 weeks.
 On 27 Jul. 2016, at 6:50 pm, Shawn Krasniuk >>> > wrote:
 
 Also, Matt Dierckens who's on this list hosts a Roger group for beta 
 testers to talk about iOS 10 and MacOS Sierra. The link to join should be 
 in the archives but if not Matt can repost.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 
 
> On Jul 26, 2016, at 1:30 AM, Michael Marshall  > wrote:
> 
> hey,
> since we can not talk or ask questions about the betas of IOS or mac OS 
> because of the ridiculous MDA i'm asking if any testers could contact me 
> off list?
> I wish to compare notes on some things that i have found.
> 
> thanks for any help
> 
> Michael
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Music and iPhone six.

[Stacey Robinson]

I can’t figure out how to set my phone so that music in the cloud won’t show up.
I want to be able to purchase music with my phone but I don’t want the icloud 
stuff to show up.
Step by step instructions are appreciated.

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Re: Music and iPhone six.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

In settings, music on the iPhone, try logging out of your Apple ID. This should 
stop the streaming music. If you have Apple Music or iTunes match, this may be 
a problem though.

Later...


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
> 
> I can’t figure out how to set my phone so that music in the cloud won’t show 
> up.
> I want to be able to purchase music with my phone but I don’t want the icloud 
> stuff to show up.
> Step by step instructions are appreciated.
> 
> Peace,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Re: Music and iPhone six.

[Stacey Robinson]

Tim,
Will this still allow me to purchase music with my phone?
Peace,  
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Jul 28, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In settings, music on the iPhone, try logging out of your Apple ID. This 
> should stop the streaming music. If you have Apple Music or iTunes match, 
> this may be a problem though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> I can’t figure out how to set my phone so that music in the cloud won’t show 
>> up.
>> I want to be able to purchase music with my phone but I don’t want the 
>> icloud stuff to show up.
>> Step by step instructions are appreciated.
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>> 
>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Re: Music and iPhone six.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Yes, it should.  Your Apple ID should still be signed in in the iTunes & 
Appstore area of settings.  What it should do is make it so that you either 
download music directly to your iPhone, or use iTunes to purchase the music and 
transfer it over via iTunes as well.  That's what I'd expect to happen.  Let me 
know if something different occurs, and I'll dig deeper.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 28, 2016, at 10:06, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

Tim,
Will this still allow me to purchase music with my phone?
Peace,  
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Jul 28, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In settings, music on the iPhone, try logging out of your Apple ID. This 
> should stop the streaming music. If you have Apple Music or iTunes match, 
> this may be a problem though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> I can’t figure out how to set my phone so that music in the cloud won’t show 
>> up.
>> I want to be able to purchase music with my phone but I don’t want the 
>> icloud stuff to show up.
>> Step by step instructions are appreciated.
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>> 
>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Still get reminders from deleted instances of a repeated event in IOS calender

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello, 
I am running the latest IOS on my iPhone 5S. I have several repeated events in 
my calendar. As it is the holiday season I deleted specific instances of some 
of these repeated events and as expected these instances no longer appear in my 
calendar. However I still get reminder notifications of the deleted event 
instances. Is this a bug? 

Note that the calendar is in iCloud and is shared with my iMac. 

Many thanks. 

Paul Hopewell 

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Re: Music and iPhone six.

[Stacey Robinson]

Thanks Tim.

Peace,  
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Jul 28, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, it should.  Your Apple ID should still be signed in in the iTunes & 
> Appstore area of settings.  What it should do is make it so that you either 
> download music directly to your iPhone, or use iTunes to purchase the music 
> and transfer it over via iTunes as well.  That's what I'd expect to happen.  
> Let me know if something different occurs, and I'll dig deeper.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 28, 2016, at 10:06, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> Will this still allow me to purchase music with my phone?
> Peace,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>   
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> In settings, music on the iPhone, try logging out of your Apple ID. This 
>> should stop the streaming music. If you have Apple Music or iTunes match, 
>> this may be a problem though.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Stacey Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can’t figure out how to set my phone so that music in the cloud won’t 
>>> show up.
>>> I want to be able to purchase music with my phone but I don’t want the 
>>> icloud stuff to show up.
>>> Step by step instructions are appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Peace,
>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>>> 
>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Is the Kindle App accessible on Mac OS ?

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello, 
I am using the Kindle App on my iPhone using VoiceOver and it works pretty 
well. 

I would like to also read Kindle books on my iMac running the latest El 
Capitan. I have installed the Kindle App but am having trouble registering it. 
Is the App accessible with VoiceOver on Mac OS? 

Many thanks. 

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Re: Is the Kindle App accessible on Mac OS ?

[Mary Otten]

No. Absolutely worthless.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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> I am using the Kindle App on my iPhone using VoiceOver and it works pretty 
> well. 
> 
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> it. Is the App accessible with VoiceOver on Mac OS? 
> 
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> 
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High pitched VoiceOver

[Traci Duncan]

Hi everybody,
  I don’t know if I accidentally changed a setting, but this is driving me a 
little crazy.  I use Samantha compact for my Mac VoiceOver voice.  Just 
recently she is doing some weird high pitch letters and web locators.  A few 
examples, when I VO-shift-left and right arrow to read over letters in a word, 
she is going high pitch while reading some of them.  Not just the capitols.  
When I am typing words, she is going high pitch on some words but most 
punctuation.
  I’ve been reading a lot on dog food advisor and there are parts on their site 
where she goes high pitched.  There are buttons for vote up or vote down.  If 
there is a number before these buttons, she goes high.

Anyway, any suggestions on if I’ve changed something, or could this be part of 
an update? 

Thank you,
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Re: To Unified English Braille Readers

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi Mark.

Were you doing this on an I phone or Mac?  I have never seen the bold font or 
any other font come up on my Braille display.  I’m not even sure how to do that 
as I know how to do this using Duxbury but I’ve never done it on my Focus with 
an I phone.  So please enlighten me.  I know how to do bold in Duxbury of 
course but how do you do it on an I phone?

Thanks.

Kawal.
> On 25 Jul 2016, at 02:38, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello All,
> 
> I just switched my Focus 40 Blue Braille display settings to UEB Contracted
> Braille.  
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> Then, I went into Text Edit and typed in a sentence with one bolded word.  
> 
> What I expected to see, on the display, was the sentence including the bold
> word type form indicator, preceding the bolded word.  I do not see the type
> form indicator.
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> Question, what must I do in order to see type form indicators on my display?
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Re: To Unified English Braille Readers

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello Mark and others.

Someone stated on this list that no screen reader will indicate when there is a 
typeform.

I would like to correct those on this list who are interested in this subject.

Jaws will tell you when there is a bold, italic and other attributes as it will 
speak it especially if you get Jaws to announce them.

I am a Braille transcriber (as many of you know) and so I will tell you, if I 
import a word document in to Duxbury, it will tell me if you are using the UEB 
table that you have bold, italic and other types forms.

Without getting technical, at work I have a program which will output to 
braille with all the typeforms preserved and hence in Duxbury you will get what 
is represented in braille.  I’d suggest that you need to right template in 
Duxbury if you want all this represented.

I know this is a list for Mac and so on but I did want to correct that person 
who said that a screenreader does not give you these attributes.

If however, you are using a Mac or I phone, you will not see this represented 
in UEB braille and I’m not sure why.  May be technical works needs to be done 
so that the braille table for IOS and Mac to represent this.

Many thanks.

Kawal. 
> On 26 Jul 2016, at 00:24, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jonathan,
> 
> U, E, B type form indicators do not require the use of any additional dots.  
> In fact, they are based on a 6-dot Braille cell.  
> 
> For example, In the sentence, "I am the cheese," where "cheese" is bolded, 
> the U, E, B display would be as follows:
> "I am the [dots 45, 5] cheese," where dots 45, 5 would appear in the two 
> cells immediately preceding the word in question.
> 
> I spoke to a Freedom Scientific representative today, who, like me, could not 
> get the indicator to appear.  All he could do was to get the word in 
> question, marked with dots 36 via the Braille Markings settings in Jaws.  
> 
> I have escalated this matter to those higher on the proverbial food chain at 
> Freedom Scientific.  
> 
> As Jonathan Mosen is a member of this community, perhaps he will shed some 
> light on this subject, for us.
> 
> Mark 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan C. Cohn
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 5:47 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: To Unified English Braille Readers
> 
> it only supports got 7 and8. For Jaws there an attributes area of settings 
> center, but i believe
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:04 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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>> M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> Quite Correct, E.T.
>>> 
>>> So far, I cannot get type form indicators to appear on the display on 
>>> either the Mac or via Jaws in Windows 10.  
>> 
>> 
>> I am not aware of any screen reader that supports this feature. They 
>> should all support it, and not just with UEB.
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Re: MS Word jumps to the top

[Larry Thacker Jr.]

I was having some other issues and ended up restarting the Mac.  It seems to 
have stopped doing that now.  I should probably be reporting to Microsoft 
though, because there does seem to be an issue if one navigates up into the 
header section of the document with VO.  It gets busy, yet some commands still 
can get through.  I am able to save and eventually quit.  All is fine when I 
come back.
  It’s good negative reinforcement I suppose to make me stop using the 
JAWS/NVDA read line command when I mean to use the one for VO.

Thanks
> On Jul 28, 2016, at 2:25 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> Hello Larry,
> 
> I don’t use Word but this doesn’t happen to me in Pages. Is your mouse 
> following your other cursors? If so, try changing it to Ignore the other 
> cursors.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 28 Jul 2016, at 00:48, Larry Thacker Jr. > > wrote:
>> 
>> When Working in MS Word, if I switch away from the document I’m working on 
>> and come back.  The cursor jumps back to the top of the document.  I’m 
>> pretty sure I saw this happen in Pages too, but I wouldn’t swear to it.  Is 
>> there any way to stop this from happening?  It’s quite annoying as I am 
>> constantly switching between applications as I research what I’m working on.
>> 
>> Larry Thacker Jr.
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Re: Is the Kindle App accessible on Mac OS ?

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi Paul,
sadly, no, the kindle app is almost totally unuseable on the mac.

Caitlyn

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> well. 
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> I would like to also read Kindle books on my iMac running the latest El 
> Capitan. I have installed the Kindle App but am having trouble registering 
> it. Is the App accessible with VoiceOver on Mac OS? 
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Re: Is the Kindle App accessible on Mac OS ?

[Caitlyn Furness]

Well, not totally worthless.  I use it to download my kindle books, then use 
caliber to convert them to other formats…

JMO, though,
Caitlyn

> On Jul 28, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> No. Absolutely worthless.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Hello, 
>> I am using the Kindle App on my iPhone using VoiceOver and it works pretty 
>> well. 
>> 
>> I would like to also read Kindle books on my iMac running the latest El 
>> Capitan. I have installed the Kindle App but am having trouble registering 
>> it. Is the App accessible with VoiceOver on Mac OS? 
>> 
>> Many thanks. 
>> 
>> Paul Hopewell 
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RE: if there is anyone using the beta of OS Sierra could you please right to me off list?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hanks Michael,

I must have missed that email somewhere.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
Sent: Friday, 29 July 2016 1:36 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: if there is anyone using the beta of OS Sierra could you please 
right to me off list?

cool, thanks for that.
On 28 Jul. 2016, at 11:31 pm, Matthew Dierckens 
mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com>> wrote:

To all who have subscribed to the list, we will get to your messages shortly.
I am in the process of moving, and Aleeha is currently at the seeing eye 
getting her new guide.

God bless.
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On Jul 28, 2016, at 04:44, Michael Marshall 
mailto:mightymaggie...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have never understood why Apple does not allow public discussion these days.
all this does is prevent users from openly talking about possible problems and 
formulating solutions.

On 28 Jul. 2016, at 6:32 pm, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah I also tried subscribing  a couple of weeks ago and still no reply

That's for the IOS beta email list.



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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2016 9:05 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: if there is anyone using the beta of OS Sierra could you please 
right to me off list?

hey,
could you please post that link?
i think i know the list and if it's the one i'm thinking of you have to be 
approved and i have been waiting over 3 weeks.

On 27 Jul. 2016, at 6:50 pm, Shawn Krasniuk 
mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Also, Matt Dierckens who's on this list hosts a Roger group for beta testers to 
talk about iOS 10 and MacOS Sierra. The link to join should be in the archives 
but if not Matt can repost.

Shawn
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On Jul 26, 2016, at 1:30 AM, Michael Marshall 
mailto:mightymaggie...@gmail.com>> wrote:

hey,
since we can not talk or ask questions about the betas of IOS or mac OS because 
of the ridiculous MDA i'm asking if any testers could contact me off list?
I wish to compare notes on some things that i have found.

thanks for any help

Michael

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RE: Music and iPhone six.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Stacey,

 If you go into settings and then find iCloud 
Can you find the music option in that iCloud setting and uncheck it?

 That should stop music syncing with the cloud.

Also under music you can tell it not to use apple music.

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I can’t figure out how to set my phone so that music in the cloud won’t show up.
I want to be able to purchase music with my phone but I don’t want the icloud 
stuff to show up.
Step by step instructions are appreciated.

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RE: High pitched VoiceOver

[Simon Fogarty]

Have you got the text written in upper case and vo speaking higher due to the 
uer case text.

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Subject: High pitched VoiceOver

Hi everybody,
  I don’t know if I accidentally changed a setting, but this is driving me a 
little crazy.  I use Samantha compact for my Mac VoiceOver voice.  Just 
recently she is doing some weird high pitch letters and web locators.  A few 
examples, when I VO-shift-left and right arrow to read over letters in a word, 
she is going high pitch while reading some of them.  Not just the capitols.  
When I am typing words, she is going high pitch on some words but most 
punctuation.
  I’ve been reading a lot on dog food advisor and there are parts on their site 
where she goes high pitched.  There are buttons for vote up or vote down.  If 
there is a number before these buttons, she goes high.

Anyway, any suggestions on if I’ve changed something, or could this be part of 
an update? 

Thank you,
Traci

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Re: Music and iPhone six.

[Stacey Robinson]

I didn’t see music under iCloud at all. Apple music is off.
Peace,  
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Jul 28, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stacey,
> 
> If you go into settings and then find iCloud 
> Can you find the music option in that iCloud setting and uncheck it?
> 
> That should stop music syncing with the cloud.
> 
> Also under music you can tell it not to use apple music.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stacey Robinson
> Sent: Friday, 29 July 2016 2:54 AM
> To: Macvisionaries 
> Subject: Music and iPhone six.
> 
> I can’t figure out how to set my phone so that music in the cloud won’t show 
> up.
> I want to be able to purchase music with my phone but I don’t want the icloud 
> stuff to show up.
> Step by step instructions are appreciated.
> 
> Peace,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>   
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Voice dream reader cutting out

[Mary Otten]

I am sending this to two lists, because I know there are some on the Mac list 
who use I-devices and are not subscribed to the iPhone list. I have recently 
noticed that voice dream reader will sometimes cut out when I am reading a book 
from book share. I thought at first that there was a problem with my iPad mini, 
which is usually where I do my reading. So I switched to my iPhone 6s, and 
discovered that the problem was also happening there. I really can't find a 
pattern, except that it seems to occur most often when I have moved around 
within a book. But that is not always true. I have found this problem while 
using the Kendra voice, which is when I have been using lately due to the type 
of material I have been reading. So I don't know if it is just that voice or 
something more. I never had a problem with that boys until recently. This 
problem may be associated with the recent update to iOS 9. But that was such a 
small update that that seems hard to believe. Anyway, I am curious if any other 
voice dream users have noticed this issue where the voice while you were 
reading just cuts out for a while and then comes back in a different place in 
the book. It's like it started rewind or fast-forward a bit.
Mary


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Re: To Unified English Braille Readers

[Devin Prater]

I know for a fact that NVDA shows typeforms in braille. That's one of the 
amazing features it has over Voiceover. Now, if the Mac would just accept that 
I want Linux on it... I'd be able to test BRLTTY, Orca and Liblouis there to 
make sure typeforms are shown on Linux too. But the Mac drags its feet. If 
anyone thinks Macs are just PC's with MacOS on them, nope. Ugh. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mark and others.
> 
> Someone stated on this list that no screen reader will indicate when there is 
> a typeform.
> 
> I would like to correct those on this list who are interested in this subject.
> 
> Jaws will tell you when there is a bold, italic and other attributes as it 
> will speak it especially if you get Jaws to announce them.
> 
> I am a Braille transcriber (as many of you know) and so I will tell you, if I 
> import a word document in to Duxbury, it will tell me if you are using the 
> UEB table that you have bold, italic and other types forms.
> 
> Without getting technical, at work I have a program which will output to 
> braille with all the typeforms preserved and hence in Duxbury you will get 
> what is represented in braille.  I’d suggest that you need to right template 
> in Duxbury if you want all this represented.
> 
> I know this is a list for Mac and so on but I did want to correct that person 
> who said that a screenreader does not give you these attributes.
> 
> If however, you are using a Mac or I phone, you will not see this represented 
> in UEB braille and I’m not sure why.  May be technical works needs to be done 
> so that the braille table for IOS and Mac to represent this.
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> Kawal. 
>> On 26 Jul 2016, at 00:24, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Jonathan,
>> 
>> U, E, B type form indicators do not require the use of any additional dots.  
>> In fact, they are based on a 6-dot Braille cell.  
>> 
>> For example, In the sentence, "I am the cheese," where "cheese" is bolded, 
>> the U, E, B display would be as follows:
>> "I am the [dots 45, 5] cheese," where dots 45, 5 would appear in the two 
>> cells immediately preceding the word in question.
>> 
>> I spoke to a Freedom Scientific representative today, who, like me, could 
>> not get the indicator to appear.  All he could do was to get the word in 
>> question, marked with dots 36 via the Braille Markings settings in Jaws.  
>> 
>> I have escalated this matter to those higher on the proverbial food chain at 
>> Freedom Scientific.  
>> 
>> As Jonathan Mosen is a member of this community, perhaps he will shed some 
>> light on this subject, for us.
>> 
>> Mark 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan C. Cohn
>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 5:47 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: To Unified English Braille Readers
>> 
>> it only supports got 7 and8. For Jaws there an attributes area of settings 
>> center, but i believe
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn 
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:04 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> M. Taylor  wrote:
 Quite Correct, E.T.
 
 So far, I cannot get type form indicators to appear on the display on 
 either the Mac or via Jaws in Windows 10.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am not aware of any screen reader that supports this feature. They 
>>> should all support it, and not just with UEB.
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Making sure of accessibility before I buy a Mac Word processing app

[Sharon Hooley]

Hi,

Does anyone use Scribner on the mac?  If so, do you still find it accessible 
with VoiceOver  OS 10 and above?  I'm writing my autobiography, which will 
definitely be a long document.  Or is Pages better and more accessible?

Thanks,



Sharon H.

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Re: Is the Kindle App accessible on Mac OS ?

[Ben J. Bloomgren]

I just tried it half a week ago, and for me it was a bonified disaster. 
Very little read.



Ben


On 7/28/2016 12:00, Paul Hopewell wrote:

Hello,
I am using the Kindle App on my iPhone using VoiceOver and it works pretty well.

I would like to also read Kindle books on my iMac running the latest El 
Capitan. I have installed the Kindle App but am having trouble registering it. 
Is the App accessible with VoiceOver on Mac OS?

Many thanks.

Paul Hopewell



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