Re: Choosing a Mac, getting started

[Robin]

Your a 
Macenthusiast, 
so Why don't you Compare-Contrast Apple iWorks Versus Microsoft's 
Office ON OSX (MacOSX)?


Don't TalkTheTalk WalkTheWalk

I'm PrettySure  other MacListers would also BeInterested IN a PodCast 
of ThisNature


At 07:41 AM 12/31/2015, you wrote:
While 4 GB of memory will work, go with 8 if you can afford it, it 
can only help you. You will probably find that pages offers better 
acccessibility than Microsoft Office at this point, I think you will 
enjoy the mac experience.

Original message:

I recently joined this group and would like to learn more about using
the Mac and its accessibility.  I am considering buying a Mac, and have
been exploring some different models.  I would appreciate any input
anyone may have before I buy one.



My main purposes right now for using the mac would be for learning how
the OS works, using web browsing, email, word processing, listening to
audio files, and trying some audio editing.  I'd also like to try Apple
Script, Python, and maybe the new Swift programming language.  Does
VoiceOver work well in the terminal?



I would also like to have the option to run Windows as a virtual
machine, and am considering whether to get 8 GB of RAM or go with 4.



Recently when working on my resume, I found it helpful that my Windows
screen reader was able to tell me the horizontal and vertical position
of the cursor so that I could tell how far down on the page the text
was, and make sure text was lined up horizontally.  Does VoiceOver offer
this kind of feedback in either Pages or Microsoft Office?



I'm mainly considering the Mac Mini, Macbook Air, or Macbook.  From
reading Apple's OS X requirements, many 2012 or newer models of the Mac
Mini are supported.  If I go with a Macbook Air or Macbook, I may go for
a newer machine to maximize its battery life since the battery isn't
easily replaceable.  Would I be ok with getting a Mac Mini from 2012 or
newer if I decide to go with one of those, instead of buying the latest
model, or are there any drawbacks from an accessibility standpoint?



How valuable is it to have a numeric pad?  I understand VoiceOver has a
numpad commander that can be used to assign keyboard commands.  Would it
be worth considering an external Apple keyboard with a numeric pad if I
buy a laptop without one?  How about a trackpad, if I choose a Mac Mini
without one built in?



One of the things I am excited about is access to the recovery software,
and being able to easily create and run Mac OS from an external hard
drive or flash drive for troubleshooting or as a second system for
experimenting.  Can I use an existing external hard drive and
repartition it so that I have a partition for backup file storage and a
second partition to install OS X, or would it be better to have OS X as
the only thing on the external drive?  I recall reading that when
choosing a startup OS by holding the option key at startup that there is
no speech.  Are there other screens like this to be aware of?



Thanks for any ideas.



John



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Re: Installing braille embosser

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

E.T.  wrote:
> So that must mean that OS X cannot see the USB connection that Windows can
> using the parallel to USB cable. That is the deal breaker because the Juliet
> is too old and I do not expect Enabling will have drivers.


If it's a parallel to USB adapter, then it won't appear as a serial port but
as a parallel printer port. I don't know what the device names are under OS X,
but there may be a device node in /dev. System log files may show whether the
device is recognized.

If it is recognized, you're in luck. Otherwise, I can think of two options:

1. Find a parallel to USB adapter that OS X does recognize or for which there
is a driver. This has nothing to do with the embosser itself.

2. Configure the embosser for serial output, and connect a serial to USB
adapter that OS X can recognize. I've jused a Juliet embosser in the past
(under Linux, not OS X). It had both serial and parallel ports and you could
switch between them with configuration commands issued via the key pad.

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Re: Why is mail consistently quitting after update to El Capitan?

[Christine Grassman]

Hi, Mark. Happy New Year. It seems to have mysteriously resolved itself, thanks 
for checking in. There are a host of other little strange annoyances, like at 
random letter echo changes to word echo, and auto correct seems extra insistent 
on imposing itself, and web navigation on familiar web sites is acting oddly, 
especially when using search, but nothing compared to the potential hardships 
upgrading can sometimes unfurl. 
Christine

> On Dec 31, 2015, at 8:46 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Christine,
> 
> Did you manage to get your El Capitan mail application problem resolved?
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Why is mail consistently quitting after update to El Capitan?
> 
> I finally took the plunge and updated. Everything seems to be absolutely 
> fine, except for mail. It keeps quitting. I have tried rebooting twice, but 
> to no avail. It is driving me crazy. Please assist.
> Christine
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Re: Installing braille embosser

[E.T.]

   Forgot this embosser has a serial port. Will have to hunt up a 
suitable cable.


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On 1/1/2016 7:19 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:

E.T.  wrote:

So that must mean that OS X cannot see the USB connection that Windows can
using the parallel to USB cable. That is the deal breaker because the Juliet
is too old and I do not expect Enabling will have drivers.



If it's a parallel to USB adapter, then it won't appear as a serial port but
as a parallel printer port. I don't know what the device names are under OS X,
but there may be a device node in /dev. System log files may show whether the
device is recognized.

If it is recognized, you're in luck. Otherwise, I can think of two options:

1. Find a parallel to USB adapter that OS X does recognize or for which there
is a driver. This has nothing to do with the embosser itself.

2. Configure the embosser for serial output, and connect a serial to USB
adapter that OS X can recognize. I've jused a Juliet embosser in the past
(under Linux, not OS X). It had both serial and parallel ports and you could
switch between them with configuration commands issued via the key pad.



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Re: apple watch weirdness with bluetooth

[Ricardo Walker]

Yup,

Exactly. I called Apple yesterday, and this is indeed not a bug. Its a 
limitation caused by how they route calls. Basically, Your watch is already 
being treated as a bluetooth speaker/mic. So,The call is being defaulted to the 
watch speaker. I didn’t realize that calls were being relayed via bluetooth. I 
had assumed it was via wifi similar to hand off like when placing/receiving 
calls via a mac or iPad for example.

In my opinion, its quite an inconvenience.

Long story short, you want to take calls privately via your apple watch via bt 
headset? Not happening.
> On Dec 31, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> 
> Are calls heard through these Bluetooth headsets when connected to iPhone, 
> but are not on Watch?
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:50 PM Scott Granados  wrote:
> I just got my pairing done with an Era.  I’ll test this and see if I can 
> replicate.
> 
> > On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I’m experiencing some odd behavior with my watch when I connect it to a 
> > bluetooth headset. I can hear voiceover just fine but, calls are not routed 
> > to the bt headset which is kinda the entire point. lol.
> >
> > I’ve gone into settings/general/accessibility on my iPhone and set call 
> > routing to bluetooth headset. No dice.
> >
> > So, I’ve tried 2 bt devices. My sennheiser momentum over ear wireless 
> > headphones, and a jawbone era.  I get the same behavior with both.
> >
> > Any suggestions and, are others seeing this behavior?
> >
> > Thanks.
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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Jim, with your talk of the blizzard you experienced, you've hit on exactly 
why many of us believe there should be an FM radio in every smartphone. 
Disasters. In an earthquake, major storm, or sadly even in a terror attack, 
it's too easy for infrastructure to be overloaded or damaged. There was a 
serious earthquake here five years ago that resulted in hundreds of lives lost. 
Many cell sites were damaged, and those that weren't suffered huge congestion 
when everyone tried to call and text at the same time. Power was out for a long 
time for many people, so they had no Internet at work or home. Mobile data 
can't be trusted at times like this. The good old ham radio operators were a 
huge help during this time.
It's also true that conventional radio transmitters may fail too, but chances 
are that somewhere, there'll be a station that's able to stay on the air and 
give advice and other emergency information.
Like others in this thread, my understanding is also that just like the 
numerous Android phones where this feature is enabled, there is an FM radio in 
the iPhone that hasn't been enabled. Enabling it can't do any harm, and it 
could literally be a life saver at critical times.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 30/12/2015, at 2:08 PM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
> 
> Ithink all the listening maps are great but there's nothing like listening to 
> radio.  When we had our blizzard this weekend and there were tornadoes not 
> far from us I thought how lost we'd be without the internet.  I hope over the 
> air radio never goes away.
> jg
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> I love tunin, someone introduced me to that about 3 years ago back when I 
>> used to use iheart radio, and I like that so much better, especially sense 
>> it picks back up on whatever station you were listening to when you closed 
>> it.
>> I love those apps so much better than a regular frequency radio, considering 
>> the fact, that unless you travel through an area where you lose your 
>> internet connection, you can listen to the same station forever if you want, 
>> and don't have to worry about it phasing out just because you're leaving the 
>> state.  That was one thing I hated about traveling; we would get used to 1 
>> station, then about 20 mins or less, I'd have to look again for another 
>> station because we lost the one we were listening to, or just retire the 
>> radio altogether and try to find a tape that we all liked.
>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 6:08 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Brent Harding  wrote:
 I don't think the iPhones ever had one. The radio might be part of the 
 chips
 in there, but Apple disabled it somehow to where we can't turn it on. I
 think this is something exclusively for Android phones, but it would 
 require
 headphones or a cable hooked to speakers to use for its antenna, so it
 wouldn't be real useful when the broadcasters say one would need it most on
 those TV ads because most of us don't carry wired headphones around.
>>> 
>>> If you have reliable Internet access, however, you can listen to any of a
>>> large number of radio stations via streaming. A friend introduced me to the
>>> TuneIn radio application (http://www.tunein.com/), available on the Web as
>>> well as for iOS and Android devices. It works well with VoiceOver under iOS.
>>> 
>>> The larger story here is that the Internet is gradually superseding other
>>> communications technologies. At the moment, it doesn't handle broadcast
>>> scenarios well: an individual audio stream for each listener is very
>>> inefficient. On the other hand, peoples' listening habits are changing. 
>>> Unless
>>> it's a news program or a live event, I want it "on demand", on my schedule, 
>>> not on a
>>> broadcaster's schedule.
>>> 
>>> All I have at the moment is a mobile phone and an Internet connection - 
>>> that's
>>> surprisingly sufficient (and I've been a radio listening enthusiast for
>>> decades).
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windows7 under bootcamp

[jeff `greene]

Hi, Ok starting just yesterday I'm seeing some strange behavior in
windows 7 under bootcamp. My keystrokes on the keyboard seem to be
delayed, I.E. I hit a key and there is a longer delay than normal. A
couple of programs like Piraform C-Cleaner launch funny and i can't
navigate the screen. So, since microsoft keeps harping at me to update
to windows 10 I was thinking that may solve my problems. I just had
some questions.1 Do you have to update the apple bootcamp drivers or
is it done automatically?
2 Will my screen reader work after the update, or how about win10's narrator?
If anybody on the list has done this upgrade any info would be appreciated.
Thanks, Jeff

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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Jim Gatteys]

Jonathan!
I still have my n82 phone that has radio and Icould use that in an emergency 
but it seems counterproductive to have a chip in a phone and not have access to 
it.  I've lived where power is out, and there is no access to services and 
radio is always reassuring during those times.
I can only hope that one day the iPhone will activate that built-in chip if it 
is indeed there.
Jim

> On Jan 1, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim, with your talk of the blizzard you experienced, you've hit on exactly 
> why many of us believe there should be an FM radio in every smartphone. 
> Disasters. In an earthquake, major storm, or sadly even in a terror attack, 
> it's too easy for infrastructure to be overloaded or damaged. There was a 
> serious earthquake here five years ago that resulted in hundreds of lives 
> lost. Many cell sites were damaged, and those that weren't suffered huge 
> congestion when everyone tried to call and text at the same time. Power was 
> out for a long time for many people, so they had no Internet at work or home. 
> Mobile data can't be trusted at times like this. The good old ham radio 
> operators were a huge help during this time.
> It's also true that conventional radio transmitters may fail too, but chances 
> are that somewhere, there'll be a station that's able to stay on the air and 
> give advice and other emergency information.
> Like others in this thread, my understanding is also that just like the 
> numerous Android phones where this feature is enabled, there is an FM radio 
> in the iPhone that hasn't been enabled. Enabling it can't do any harm, and it 
> could literally be a life saver at critical times.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org

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Re: apple watch weirdness with bluetooth

[Basioli George]

hay scott, i pair my platronics you told me to get with my phone and watch 
every day.  the trick is you need a device that can pair to 2 devices at the 
same time like the plantronics and they automatically switch. thus when the 
watch rings if you answer on the watch it will work
> On Jan 1, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
> Yup,
> 
> Exactly. I called Apple yesterday, and this is indeed not a bug. Its a 
> limitation caused by how they route calls. Basically, Your watch is already 
> being treated as a bluetooth speaker/mic. So,The call is being defaulted to 
> the watch speaker. I didn’t realize that calls were being relayed via 
> bluetooth. I had assumed it was via wifi similar to hand off like when 
> placing/receiving calls via a mac or iPad for example.
> 
> In my opinion, its quite an inconvenience.
> 
> Long story short, you want to take calls privately via your apple watch via 
> bt headset? Not happening.
>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
>> 
>> Are calls heard through these Bluetooth headsets when connected to iPhone, 
>> but are not on Watch?
>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:50 PM Scott Granados  wrote:
>> I just got my pairing done with an Era.  I’ll test this and see if I can 
>> replicate.
>> 
>>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> I’m experiencing some odd behavior with my watch when I connect it to a 
>>> bluetooth headset. I can hear voiceover just fine but, calls are not routed 
>>> to the bt headset which is kinda the entire point. lol.
>>> 
>>> I’ve gone into settings/general/accessibility on my iPhone and set call 
>>> routing to bluetooth headset. No dice.
>>> 
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Re: apple watch weirdness with bluetooth

[Ricardo Walker]

Correct,

Thats really the only way to work around this limitation. I did this with my 
Sennheisers.
> On Jan 1, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Basioli George  wrote:
> 
> hay scott, i pair my platronics you told me to get with my phone and watch 
> every day.  the trick is you need a device that can pair to 2 devices at the 
> same time like the plantronics and they automatically switch. thus when the 
> watch rings if you answer on the watch it will work
>> On Jan 1, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>> Yup,
>> 
>> Exactly. I called Apple yesterday, and this is indeed not a bug. Its a 
>> limitation caused by how they route calls. Basically, Your watch is already 
>> being treated as a bluetooth speaker/mic. So,The call is being defaulted to 
>> the watch speaker. I didn’t realize that calls were being relayed via 
>> bluetooth. I had assumed it was via wifi similar to hand off like when 
>> placing/receiving calls via a mac or iPad for example.
>> 
>> In my opinion, its quite an inconvenience.
>> 
>> Long story short, you want to take calls privately via your apple watch via 
>> bt headset? Not happening.
>>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are calls heard through these Bluetooth headsets when connected to iPhone, 
>>> but are not on Watch?
>>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:50 PM Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> I just got my pairing done with an Era.  I’ll test this and see if I can 
>>> replicate.
>>> 
 On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I’m experiencing some odd behavior with my watch when I connect it to a 
 bluetooth headset. I can hear voiceover just fine but, calls are not 
 routed to the bt headset which is kinda the entire point. lol.
 
 I’ve gone into settings/general/accessibility on my iPhone and set call 
 routing to bluetooth headset. No dice.
 
 So, I’ve tried 2 bt devices. My sennheiser momentum over ear wireless 
 headphones, and a jawbone era.  I get the same behavior with both.
 
 Any suggestions and, are others seeing this behavior?
 
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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Is it just a matter of activating the FM chip, though?  I thought I remember 
reading somewhere that part of the problem was getting an antenna that could be 
shared among all the radio frequencies.  Some phones were using the headphone 
socket to provide the radio with an aerial, and that of course makes for some 
unseemly requirements on listening.

And let’s not forget that this is Apple.  Between scratching the itch of the 
telcos upon whose generosity their success is highly conditioned, the “User 
experience” of listening to FM, and—oh, I don’t know—filling their own pockets 
on the ill-gotten gains of app sales, is it really that much of a wonder, even 
if they could get it working, that they’d be reluctant to do so?

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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Pardon me for chiming in here but, I found the end of your message kinda 
amusing.

you wrote "Between scratching the itch of the telcos upon whose generosity 
their success is highly conditioned…” Not for nothing, that doesn’t make much 
sense. Especially when talking about the Samsung Galaxy lineup, and the iPhone. 
Telcos have their backs against the wall more than ever before when it comes to 
dealing with Hero handsets like those I mention. Do you recall how many people 
flocked to At&T in the U.S., and other carriers who had exclusive rights to 
sell the iPhone? If you recall, Verizon turned down Apple because they wanted 
to stick their logos all over the phone, and Apple refused. People leave 
carriers to get phones, no one dumps their phone just to switch carriers. So, 
in a nutshell, the situation is the exact opposite of what you wrote. Many 
carriers are looking for the generosity from Apple and Samsung to officially 
support their networks and include the bands that they operate on their radio 
chipsets.

For example, ask T-mobile how they did when Apple finally supported their ban, 
and the phone was officially carried by T-mobile. *Shrug*. I have no issues 
with cynicism, I am actually a fan. but lets come back to earth a bit here. lol.

And ill-gotten gains from the app store? lol. Ok. Have you noticed that most 
developers put apps out on the IOS platform before Android, Windows phone, and 
others? And, they usually spend the time and resources to create better apps on 
IOS? I don’t think FB, Twitter, etc would be doing that because they were 
losing on the investment. Just saying.

Not trying to be snarky here, I just wanted to point out some things. I enjoy 
reading your posts, and I find you to be a wealth of knowledge on a diverse 
range of topics.

Happy New Year.
> On Jan 1, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> Is it just a matter of activating the FM chip, though?  I thought I remember 
> reading somewhere that part of the problem was getting an antenna that could 
> be shared among all the radio frequencies.  Some phones were using the 
> headphone socket to provide the radio with an aerial, and that of course 
> makes for some unseemly requirements on listening.
> 
> And let’s not forget that this is Apple.  Between scratching the itch of the 
> telcos upon whose generosity their success is highly conditioned, the “User 
> experience” of listening to FM, and—oh, I don’t know—filling their own 
> pockets on the ill-gotten gains of app sales, is it really that much of a 
> wonder, even if they could get it working, that they’d be reluctant to do so?
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I desperetly need help with software

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Guys,

Would anyone happen to have the mac installer for the Olympus Sanority 
software?  Do not worry about piracy.  I do absolutely *not!* want your serial 
number!  Under no circumstances whatsoever do I want you sending that to me!  I 
already have a completely legal license key which I bought.  All that I need is 
the installer itself.  Before anyone asks, no.  The software is not digital 
voice recorder model specific.  I know this, as a friend of mine has the 
software installed, and they have about 3 different recorderws all of which are 
different models.  One's a DM-420, one was a DS50, and the other is a DM-620.  
So for him, all three work fabulously with the same exact version of the 
Sanority software.

I just can't for the life of me seem to find my CD rom with the software on it. 
 I thought you could download it from the Olympus America web site, but 
apparently not.  At least if you can, I'm having a hell of a time finding it.

Again, absolutely, I cannot stress enough, I do absolutely not! need nor want, 
a serial number to go with it.  I just need someone who can either get me the 
installer itself and either Sendspace, or better yet, Dropbox it to me, or just 
zip up an entire Sanority CD that came with one of the recorders, and I'll just 
grab the software from the zip file.  Either/or.  Also, a DMG image would be 
just fine, if you'd rather do it that way.  I don't have a preference.

Again, I'd not normally ask this, but I have practically looked everywhere for 
my disc.  It must have gotten lost in my last move, and it's not like I'm 
asking for a crack or the like.  As I said, I already have a key, and trust me. 
 I won't get very far without it, as even with the free non-Pro version, you 
have to have a key in order for it to even install to start with.  So, without 
you sending me a serial, there really wouldn't be much I could do with it 
anyway.

Anyway, thanks for the help.

Chris.

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Re: confirming amount of storage on a used 6th-en iPod

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Ricardo,

thanks for reminding me of that.  In this instance I didn't have my Macbook 
with me, but I had forgotten about that option.
Happy New Year,
Donna
> On Dec 31, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
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> Hi donna,
> 
> if you have a macbook,
> 
> you can just plug it in and check in iTunes.
>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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>> Hey Scot,
>> 
>> Sorry, I guess I should have been clearer.  I know you can find out the 
>> amount of storage in settings, but am unsure about whether you can bypass 
>> the configuration and setup and go directly to a home screen.  Is it 
>> possible to exit the configuration screen so that I can go to a home screen 
>> and from there to settings?  
>> thanks,
>> Donna
>>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 4:13 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
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>>> You can triple press the home key if the iPod is booting for the first time 
>>> and activate voiceover.  A sited person could verify what’s written on the 
>>> hardware or if you boot fully could could go to settings, general and about 
>>> and it lists the capacity as one of the first items.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 31, 2015, at 4:38 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm considering purchasing a used 6th-gen iPod that was advertised on 
 Craig's list.  I'll be going to see it this morning.  I assume that when I 
 turn it on, the configuration screen will come up.  Does anyone know if 
 there is any way I can confirm that the iPod actually has the amount of 
 storage advertised?
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Re: discovered a movie rental with audible narration

[Vaughn Brown]

Hi,

Netflex should be able to offer footnotes on the audio description.
Here is a link:

http://acb.org/adp/netflixad.html

Enjoy watching!
Vaughn


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>
> How do you find out if a movie rental or purchase will contain
> descriptive/audible narration. we just rented The scorch trials from the
> apple TV and were surprised that the rental contained audible narration. I
> would definitely rent or purchase certain movies if I knew they had audible
> narration.
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Re: discovered a movie rental with audible narration

[Christina]

My apologies for not being very clear. I rented the movie from Apple. I want to 
know how to figure out which movies I can rent or purchase from Apple that will 
have descriptive narration. I did not watch the movie on Netflix.  Thank U

Sent from my iPhone

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> Enjoy watching!
> Vaughn
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>> would definitely rent or purchase certain movies if I knew they had audible
>> narration.
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Re: discovered a movie rental with audible narration

[Alex Hall]

Currently, the only way I know to do this is via an Apple TV with the latest 
tvOS. I've emailed Apple about this, and they say they're working on the 
problem. However, there's not yet a solution. Some movies say they have 
description right in the title, but now we're seeing some that have 
descriptions without indicating that at all. Here's hoping this gets fixed 
soon! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2016, at 18:26, Christina  wrote:
> 
> My apologies for not being very clear. I rented the movie from Apple. I want 
> to know how to figure out which movies I can rent or purchase from Apple that 
> will have descriptive narration. I did not watch the movie on Netflix.  Thank 
> U
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2016, at 3:03 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Netflex should be able to offer footnotes on the audio description.
>> Here is a link:
>> 
>> http://acb.org/adp/netflixad.html
>> 
>> Enjoy watching!
>> Vaughn
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/31/15, Christina C.  wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> How do you find out if a movie rental or purchase will contain
>>> descriptive/audible narration. we just rented The scorch trials from the
>>> apple TV and were surprised that the rental contained audible narration. I
>>> would definitely rent or purchase certain movies if I knew they had audible
>>> narration.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Christina
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Re: discovered a movie rental with audible narration

[Vaughn Brown]

Thank you for clarifying. I and my partner are seriously considering
purchasing an Apple TV. We are tired of TV ads!
As I understand it you can stream movies and shows from Netflex and,
learnt today, from Apple too? What else can you do with it? I have
Comcast TV with basic cable via the mobile home park.. Luckily our TV
set has an USB port. I'm hoping it is as easy as hooking it up to the
TV screen, getting on YFi, and getting it started. What excites me is
Voiceover is on it.
Looking forward to your answers and answers about the audio description.
Vaughn

On 1/1/16, Alex Hall  wrote:
> Currently, the only way I know to do this is via an Apple TV with the latest
> tvOS. I've emailed Apple about this, and they say they're working on the
> problem. However, there's not yet a solution. Some movies say they have
> description right in the title, but now we're seeing some that have
> descriptions without indicating that at all. Here's hoping this gets fixed
> soon!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 1, 2016, at 18:26, Christina  wrote:
>>
>> My apologies for not being very clear. I rented the movie from Apple. I
>> want to know how to figure out which movies I can rent or purchase from
>> Apple that will have descriptive narration. I did not watch the movie on
>> Netflix.  Thank U
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jan 1, 2016, at 3:03 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Netflex should be able to offer footnotes on the audio description.
>>> Here is a link:
>>>
>>> http://acb.org/adp/netflixad.html
>>>
>>> Enjoy watching!
>>> Vaughn
>>>
>>>
 On 12/31/15, Christina C.  wrote:
 Hello all,

 How do you find out if a movie rental or purchase will contain
 descriptive/audible narration. we just rented The scorch trials from
 the
 apple TV and were surprised that the rental contained audible narration.
 I
 would definitely rent or purchase certain movies if I knew they had
 audible
 narration.

 Thanks,
 Christina

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Re: discovered a movie rental with audible narration

[Phil Halton]

The AppleTV connects to your TV via an HDMI cable, not a USB cable. If you have 
an old TV that doesn't have HDMI, you gonna have a problem. There may be 
adapters but I don't think there are. You'll need a new TV that has one or more 
HDMI ports.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 1, 2016, at 8:25 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for clarifying. I and my partner are seriously considering
> purchasing an Apple TV. We are tired of TV ads!
> As I understand it you can stream movies and shows from Netflex and,
> learnt today, from Apple too? What else can you do with it? I have
> Comcast TV with basic cable via the mobile home park.. Luckily our TV
> set has an USB port. I'm hoping it is as easy as hooking it up to the
> TV screen, getting on YFi, and getting it started. What excites me is
> Voiceover is on it.
> Looking forward to your answers and answers about the audio description.
> Vaughn
> 
>> On 1/1/16, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> Currently, the only way I know to do this is via an Apple TV with the latest
>> tvOS. I've emailed Apple about this, and they say they're working on the
>> problem. However, there's not yet a solution. Some movies say they have
>> description right in the title, but now we're seeing some that have
>> descriptions without indicating that at all. Here's hoping this gets fixed
>> soon!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2016, at 18:26, Christina  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My apologies for not being very clear. I rented the movie from Apple. I
>>> want to know how to figure out which movies I can rent or purchase from
>>> Apple that will have descriptive narration. I did not watch the movie on
>>> Netflix.  Thank U
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 1, 2016, at 3:03 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Netflex should be able to offer footnotes on the audio description.
 Here is a link:
 
 http://acb.org/adp/netflixad.html
 
 Enjoy watching!
 Vaughn
 
 
> On 12/31/15, Christina C.  wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> How do you find out if a movie rental or purchase will contain
> descriptive/audible narration. we just rented The scorch trials from
> the
> apple TV and were surprised that the rental contained audible narration.
> I
> would definitely rent or purchase certain movies if I knew they had
> audible
> narration.
> 
> Thanks,
> Christina
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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Hi Ricardo,

Interesting thoughts.

To be honest, I get the impression that the US has yet to get the full benefits 
of competition enjoyed by most of the rest of the world, who have had GSM all 
this time, and are now starting to realise what we now take for granted: that 
buying an unlocked phone is a long-term investment that pays off when you can 
switch to any carrier, and that the prices you pay for the phone are actually 
representative of their true value and not the discounted price carriers use to 
justify locking you to their networks.  Before iPhone, and in a future world of 
low-price, low-margin smartphones, where Apple cannot enforce its interests on 
consumers by choosing its partners and hardware and software specifications and 
bringing with them the unwelcome consequences of lock-in, and every carrier 
works in every phone using GSM, there is at least the possibility for consumers 
to truly vote with their wallets.  Unfortunately, just as with DRM in music, 
Apple had to sell out to the US carriers in order to grow adoption, and I think 
Apple has a way to go before being truly free of them.  Their new upgrade 
programme and AppleSIM are a start, as is Google’s Project Fi, but as long as 
they’re dependent on deals with carriers just to sell their phones at 
reasonable prices and make basic phone functions work (4G, tethering) and they 
continue to approve carriers individually rather than just following standards 
and giving people what they pay for (what am I buying an “unlocked” phone for 
again?) there will always be a market for cheaper phones that cost so little 
you don’t need a carrier to subsidise them, or premium phones with less 
restrictive software features that are not locked to carriers.  And the funny 
thing is, we’re already here.  The draw of Samsung and Apple is there, but 
their grip on the consumer only lasts while they can get away with exerting 
that kind of control.  My carrier in the UK couldn’t support the iPhone 
correctly without selling iPhones themselves; I temporarily moved to O2 to get 
the iPhone (and moved back to the VNO when they started selling iPhones and I 
could use 4G and tethering).  And remember, all using GSM.  And going in the 
other direction, Fi or AppleSIM or whatever, would only expose us to the 
potential misdeeds of our favourite vendors, now unconstrained by the 
competition offered by carriers, even as they support every band in the world 
on their flagship phones, to the potential benefit of consumers, but also 
potentially to the detriment of their wallets.  You may think Apple can do no 
wrong, and I hope you’re right, but it worries me.

So yes, my comment was flamboyant, but it’s not wrong.  Apple still puts 
carriers before consumers, sadly.  And not for nothing, either. :)

On the App Store, which I agree is a more pleasant and sustainable experience 
for iOS developers, I simply meant that Apple makes money now from streaming 
app developers and helps the carriers by not using its FM chip.  Having said 
this, I also believe Apple needs to recognise that developer interest will 
switch to the platform that is most rewarding, and both Google and Microsoft 
are desperately rolling out the red carpet to make that happen.  As soon as 
alternatives become sufficiently tolerable and guarantee a decent income, you 
can be sure that the majority will win again.  This is simple economics, of 
course.  All the vendors you mentioned, plus Apple and Microsoft, are on the 
Play Store, for instance.  You need to be there, because that’s where everybody 
is.  I hope that Apple realises that developers are important, just as 
Microsoft did.  I would hate to see iOS go the way of the Mac, and become just 
another underserved niche.

A happy new year to you too. :)

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Braille displays with VMware

[E.T.]

   I have a braille display paired with the Mac and now want to pair it 
with Windows under VMware. I cannot disconnect it from the Mac so that 
Windows can discover it. I do not want to unpair it from the Mac. What 
is the trick to make this work? Thanks.


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RE: Braille displays with VMware

[Simon Fogarty]

Is it possible to use USB to connect this braille display to the host rather 
than Bluetooth?

I know with USB you can move things easily between host and guest machines but 
haven't ever tried this with Bluetooth.-Original Message-


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I have a braille display paired with the Mac and now want to pair it with 
Windows under VMware. I cannot disconnect it from the Mac so that Windows can 
discover it. I do not want to unpair it from the Mac. What is the trick to make 
this work? Thanks.

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Re: Braille displays with VMware

[E.T.]

   Yes I could connect to USB. Maybe that is what I will need to do. 
Ahh, all those wires and cables everywhere! (smiles)


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On 1/1/2016 9:36 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Is it possible to use USB to connect this braille display to the host rather 
than Bluetooth?

I know with USB you can move things easily between host and guest machines but 
haven't ever tried this with Bluetooth.-Original Message-


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 I have a braille display paired with the Mac and now want to pair it with 
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this work? Thanks.

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RE: Choosing a Mac, getting started

[Simon Fogarty]

The 2012 mac mini can allow you the user to update ram to 16GB max where as the 
newer mac mini models I believe are only upgradable by the factory with a 
custom design.
This is the same for all mac notebooks unless you pay more for the custom 
builds they are all released with fearly lowish specs, still very useable
The 13” mac book pro with optical drive can have harddrive and ram updated but 
the individual if you have the knowledge of how to do it.

The newer models don’t have that ability.

Terminal is useable with Voiceover although feedback isn’t great but it is 
useable.
I use it all the time to run installation and diagnostic commands.

Running mac OSx versions from external drives or USB devices is great but My 
personal recommendation is a ssd drive with thunderbolt or usb 3.1 especially 
if running VM from the externals.

I have these different setups for reasons of probem solving or recovery of data 
from machiens having issues.

For a office suite to be used with Voiceover
For get MS Office, as it’s not friendly but iWorks is great. Very useable
In saying that I haven’t used office 2016 on the mac so not sure if it’s 
accessibility has gotten better or not.


I use a mac book air late 2013, 11” with upgraded processor, 8gb ram and a 
512gb ssd so custom build by apple.

And I can’t fault it.

I use it for work and personal use, including VM Fusion  with up to 4 different 
vm
S running at once, or bootcamp running windows 10 with VM workstation running  
different vms’ for all kinds of reasons.
With these things you can do awesome things  all you can do is find the machine 
you want and then expand on the accessories. Hope this helps.


I recently joined this group and would like to learn more about using
the Mac and its accessibility.  I am considering buying a Mac, and have
been exploring some different models.  I would appreciate any input
anyone may have before I buy one.


My main purposes right now for using the mac would be for learning how
the OS works, using web browsing, email, word processing, listening to
audio files, and trying some audio editing.  I'd also like to try Apple
Script, Python, and maybe the new Swift programming language.  Does
VoiceOver work well in the terminal?


I would also like to have the option to run Windows as a virtual
machine, and am considering whether to get 8 GB of RAM or go with 4.


Recently when working on my resume, I found it helpful that my Windows
screen reader was able to tell me the horizontal and vertical position
of the cursor so that I could tell how far down on the page the text
was, and make sure text was lined up horizontally.  Does VoiceOver offer
this kind of feedback in either Pages or Microsoft Office?


I'm mainly considering the Mac Mini, Macbook Air, or Macbook.  From
reading Apple's OS X requirements, many 2012 or newer models of the Mac
Mini are supported.  If I go with a Macbook Air or Macbook, I may go for
a newer machine to maximize its battery life since the battery isn't
easily replaceable.  Would I be ok with getting a Mac Mini from 2012 or
newer if I decide to go with one of those, instead of buying the latest
model, or are there any drawbacks from an accessibility standpoint?


How valuable is it to have a numeric pad?  I understand VoiceOver has a
numpad commander that can be used to assign keyboard commands.  Would it
be worth considering an external Apple keyboard with a numeric pad if I
buy a laptop without one?  How about a trackpad, if I choose a Mac Mini
without one built in?


One of the things I am excited about is access to the recovery software,
and being able to easily create and run Mac OS from an external hard
drive or flash drive for troubleshooting or as a second system for
experimenting.  Can I use an existing external hard drive and
repartition it so that I have a partition for backup file storage and a
second partition to install OS X, or would it be better to have OS X as
the only thing on the external drive?  I recall reading that when
choosing a startup OS by holding the option key at startup that there is
no speech.  Are there other screens like this to be aware of?


Thanks for any ideas.


John


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RE: windows7 under bootcamp

[Simon Fogarty]

Bootcamp drivers should normally update for you automatically.
 I got one a coupld of days ago  for wifi  

 


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of jeff `greene
Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2016 6:48 AM
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Subject: windows7 under bootcamp

Hi, Ok starting just yesterday I'm seeing some strange behavior in windows 7 
under bootcamp. My keystrokes on the keyboard seem to be delayed, I.E. I hit a 
key and there is a longer delay than normal. A couple of programs like Piraform 
C-Cleaner launch funny and i can't navigate the screen. So, since microsoft 
keeps harping at me to update to windows 10 I was thinking that may solve my 
problems. I just had some questions.1 Do you have to update the apple bootcamp 
drivers or is it done automatically?
2 Will my screen reader work after the update, or how about win10's narrator?
If anybody on the list has done this upgrade any info would be appreciated.
Thanks, Jeff

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RE: Braille displays with VMware

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With USB under VM fusion if that is what you are using, you can go into what 
from Memory is the virtual machine menu and the removable drives option will l 
/ should allow you to change the device from the host to the guest.

 I know it works with USB Flash memory drives and can only assume it wil with 
your braille device.

Good luck.

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Yes I could connect to USB. Maybe that is what I will need to do. 
Ahh, all those wires and cables everywhere! (smiles)

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On 1/1/2016 9:36 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> Is it possible to use USB to connect this braille display to the host rather 
> than Bluetooth?
>
> I know with USB you can move things easily between host and guest 
> machines but haven't ever tried this with Bluetooth.-Original 
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> Subject: Braille displays with VMware
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>  I have a braille display paired with the Mac and now want to pair it 
> with Windows under VMware. I cannot disconnect it from the Mac so that 
> Windows can discover it. I do not want to unpair it from the Mac. What is the 
> trick to make this work? Thanks.
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