Re: Macbook Pro and external HDD

[Scott Granados]

I have seen this myself.  Only thing I would suggest is if your drive has 
external power make sure it’s powered and up to speed before you power the 
computer.  If it’s all integrated not much you can do, hopefully others have 
better ideas.

> On Dec 30, 2015, at 12:47 AM, Grant  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Is it unheard of to have issues with removable drives after waking a Macbook 
> Pro? I’ve noticed on occasion my external hard drive appears to be unmounted 
> after my Macbook Pro wakes from sleep, and I need to disconnect then 
> reconnect it for it to show up in the Finder. Obviously, this is undesirable 
> as there is the chance of data loss or corruption, but I wanted to check if 
> others have experienced this and if there’s anything you guys would recommend 
> checking—for example, to rule out a hardware issue.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Grant
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Playing voicemails in Skype on IOS and OS X

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hi guys,
I can’t figure this out for the life of me. I have received a voicemail on 
Skype, and I can’t figure out how to play it on either my iPhone, iPad or my 
Mac. My mac doesn’t even seem to see the voicemail message. Is there a way to 
play it?
When I hit the voicemail, there’s no play button, and it just sits there on the 
iPhone.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, IOS  and Windows Trainer
Canadian Phone: 519-962-9140
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Airport question.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Two quick questions:
What is img snooping?
Does it matter if its on or off?

Secondly
What is Enable default host at:?
Do i need to check this?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Best configuration for new mac?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Hi Andrew,

Let’s start from the beginning.

You can think of processor cores as processors in their own right.  Each core 
computes at its clock speed, sharing some resources with the other cores but 
essentially operating independently.  Operating systems of today try to exploit 
multicore (and, indeed, multiprocessor) systems, by spreading the threads of 
execution (be they separate independent processes, or separate threads of an 
individual process) across the cores and/or processors.  Using threads of 
execution that operate in parallel is of course going to produce results faster 
than merely executing instructions on a single core.  The days of merely 
increasing the clock speed are mostly behind us now, but it was once the norm 
that operating systems would not really benefit from such parallelism, so that 
increasing the clock speed was really the only way to go faster.

Now, this is all fairly simple, but there is an extra complication.  Intel 
processors have a feature called “Hyperthreading”, which tries to make better 
use of the processor chip, by virtualising processor cores.  These cores are 
distinct from real processor cores, to operating systems that know the 
difference.  In fact, though, they are really sharing a physical core with 
another hyperthread.  Hyperthreads can improve performance, but they do not run 
independently; there is contention for the resources on that physical core they 
share.  It is when the contention does not exist that the CPU can exploit 
parallelism within that core.  You can think of it as a sort of “Accelerated 
computation” for the CPU, in much the way that “Accelerated graphics” is what 
you get when GPU (graphics) hardware assists the rendering of graphics.

What does all this mean?  Well, it means that you need to plan your CPU usage 
carefully, or not, as your requirements dictate.  If you want to guarantee a 
fair balance between host and guest, split up the CPU count.  For a quad-core 
system, let Windows have two cores.  You’ll get a known-good balance no matter 
how hard the operating systems should work their respective processor cores, 
whether at a standstill or in full flight.  On the other hand, you might care 
less for the performance of your VM; then you reduce the core count, and hope 
that your operating system will not mind the reduced parallel clock speed.  
Entirely feasible for Linux, for instance, although I wouldn’t enjoy using 
Windows above Vista like that for long.  And finally, you can go the other 
extreme: you can give it all to your VM.  I do this.  It’s much riskier; you 
had better be sure your OS does not draw more than it really requires, and you 
can hurt yourself if your host is starved for long periods.  But, again for 
Linux, which is very good at idling the chip when not in use, this is entirely 
feasible.

And about the number of cores available for each VM being higher than the 
number of physical cores, that’s hyperthreading.  VMWare Fusion will do the 
right thing, balancing your choice of cores evenly between hyperthreaded cores. 
 So actually, a quad-core system has 8 virtual processors, and a balanced 
system takes 4 virtual cores.  A single-core system that could benefit from 
hyperthreading could easily be given 2 virtual cores without any ill effect.  
And, yes, if you set the core count to 8, your VM could easily take down the 
host if it loses control.

So, that’s the story.  I hope this explains what’s happening, and answers your 
question.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: Airport question.

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Hi Anders,

IGMP snooping is a technique for reducing multicast traffic to switch ports.  
You don’t need it unless you subscribe to Internet multicast groups, which most 
of us can’t yet.  It’s safe to leave it off unless you know you need it.

“Default Host” is AirPort terminology for what most other routers (incorrectly) 
call the “DMZ”.  Don’t set it to anything unless you know you have a machine 
that needs all traffic not otherwise port-forwarded to to be sent traffic.  
Unless you only have one computer anyway, it’s better to manually add your port 
forwarding, or enable NAT-PMP to do it for you.

Cheers,
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Re: Router recomendations?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Hi Andrew,

You needn’t reset your AirPort Extreme if you don’t want to, although it’s 
certainly a very quick way to get going.  Instead, just make sure the WAN port 
is connected to your v130 (that’s the port nearest the USB socket on AirPort) 
and that your modem is connected to phone line and power, and then change from 
bridge mode to PPPoE, entering the needed parameters.  AirPort Utility is 
included in OS X, and you can download it for iOS.  The settings are under 
“Internet”.  I suggest you visit the other sections in both utilities and 
verify all is well, since changing from bridge to router is quite a big change, 
and you will find that more settings are opened up to you, if you need them 
(DHCP, NAT options, etc).

Cheers,
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Emergency Broadcast System alerts?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

So, we're getting horrible weather here where I live.  Flashflood warnings left 
and right.  Anyway, I got an alert with the whole really loud double tone 
scream etc. on my phone, as I have emergency alerts enabled for things like 
weather, God forbid, Amber alerts, etc.

So, my question is, my Apple Watch was in the other room when that thing went 
off, so I had no way of knowing, but will my watch also admit a siren and alert 
me of these things as well, or is that something only the IPod/IPhone/IPad 
does, but not the watch?  I'd hope! the watch would also do it, but just wanted 
to see if you all knew.

Chris.

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Re: Emergency Broadcast System alerts?

[Scott Granados]

Hi Chris, it should trigger a notification.  Not sure if it will be a loud 
alert but it would be a standard pop at a minimum.  I’m up here where we had 
our first winter weather and my watch was popping up all sorts of alerts from 
the weather service.  I’m using the IMAP weather app so not sure on the built 
in alerts but I’d think it would notify you at least.  I wouldn’t expect a 
siren or extended alarm on the watch though.

How’s that?

Thanks

> On Dec 30, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> So, we're getting horrible weather here where I live.  Flashflood warnings 
> left and right.  Anyway, I got an alert with the whole really loud double 
> tone scream etc. on my phone, as I have emergency alerts enabled for things 
> like weather, God forbid, Amber alerts, etc.
>  
> So, my question is, my Apple Watch was in the other room when that thing went 
> off, so I had no way of knowing, but will my watch also admit a siren and 
> alert me of these things as well, or is that something only the 
> IPod/IPhone/IPad does, but not the watch?  I'd hope! the watch would also do 
> it, but just wanted to see if you all knew.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Emergency Broadcast System alerts?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

That's kind of what I suspected.  Thanks for the confirmation.

Chris.

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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 12:31 PM
  Subject: Re: Emergency Broadcast System alerts?


  Hi Chris, it should trigger a notification.  Not sure if it will be a loud 
alert but it would be a standard pop at a minimum.  I’m up here where we had 
our first winter weather and my watch was popping up all sorts of alerts from 
the weather service.  I’m using the IMAP weather app so not sure on the built 
in alerts but I’d think it would notify you at least.  I wouldn’t expect a 
siren or extended alarm on the watch though.


  How’s that?


  Thanks


On Dec 30, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


So, we're getting horrible weather here where I live.  Flashflood warnings 
left and right.  Anyway, I got an alert with the whole really loud double tone 
scream etc. on my phone, as I have emergency alerts enabled for things like 
weather, God forbid, Amber alerts, etc.

So, my question is, my Apple Watch was in the other room when that thing 
went off, so I had no way of knowing, but will my watch also admit a siren and 
alert me of these things as well, or is that something only the 
IPod/IPhone/IPad does, but not the watch?  I'd hope! the watch would also do 
it, but just wanted to see if you all knew.

Chris.


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RE: Best configuration for new mac?

[Bill Holton]

HI.
Great explanation.  But can you tell me the hardware difference between a quad 
core i5 and a quad core i7?  Thanks.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:27 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?

Hi Andrew,

Let’s start from the beginning.

You can think of processor cores as processors in their own right.  Each core 
computes at its clock speed, sharing some resources with the other cores but 
essentially operating independently.  Operating systems of today try to exploit 
multicore (and, indeed, multiprocessor) systems, by spreading the threads of 
execution (be they separate independent processes, or separate threads of an 
individual process) across the cores and/or processors.  Using threads of 
execution that operate in parallel is of course going to produce results faster 
than merely executing instructions on a single core.  The days of merely 
increasing the clock speed are mostly behind us now, but it was once the norm 
that operating systems would not really benefit from such parallelism, so that 
increasing the clock speed was really the only way to go faster.

Now, this is all fairly simple, but there is an extra complication.  Intel 
processors have a feature called “Hyperthreading”, which tries to make better 
use of the processor chip, by virtualising processor cores.  These cores are 
distinct from real processor cores, to operating systems that know the 
difference.  In fact, though, they are really sharing a physical core with 
another hyperthread.  Hyperthreads can improve performance, but they do not run 
independently; there is contention for the resources on that physical core they 
share.  It is when the contention does not exist that the CPU can exploit 
parallelism within that core.  You can think of it as a sort of “Accelerated 
computation” for the CPU, in much the way that “Accelerated graphics” is what 
you get when GPU (graphics) hardware assists the rendering of graphics.

What does all this mean?  Well, it means that you need to plan your CPU usage 
carefully, or not, as your requirements dictate.  If you want to guarantee a 
fair balance between host and guest, split up the CPU count.  For a quad-core 
system, let Windows have two cores.  You’ll get a known-good balance no matter 
how hard the operating systems should work their respective processor cores, 
whether at a standstill or in full flight.  On the other hand, you might care 
less for the performance of your VM; then you reduce the core count, and hope 
that your operating system will not mind the reduced parallel clock speed.  
Entirely feasible for Linux, for instance, although I wouldn’t enjoy using 
Windows above Vista like that for long.  And finally, you can go the other 
extreme: you can give it all to your VM.  I do this.  It’s much riskier; you 
had better be sure your OS does not draw more than it really requires, and you 
can hurt yourself if your host is starved for long periods.  But, again for 
Linux, which is very good at idling the chip when not in use, this is entirely 
feasible.

And about the number of cores available for each VM being higher than the 
number of physical cores, that’s hyperthreading.  VMWare Fusion will do the 
right thing, balancing your choice of cores evenly between hyperthreaded cores. 
 So actually, a quad-core system has 8 virtual processors, and a balanced 
system takes 4 virtual cores.  A single-core system that could benefit from 
hyperthreading could easily be given 2 virtual cores without any ill effect.  
And, yes, if you set the core count to 8, your VM could easily take down the 
host if it loses control.

So, that’s the story.  I hope this explains what’s happening, and answers your 
question.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: Best configuration for new mac?

[Scott Granados]

So the difference between an I5 and I7 is the I7 is a more advanced and better 
performing chip.  I’m not sure but I don’t think the I5 is available in quad 
core configurations, for sure the I5 is in dual core configurations as I have 
seen them in Macs frequently.  The I7 does in fact have a quad core 
configuration so in most cases you’ll have double the cores, the clock rate is 
faster in the I7, the clock can be overclocked higher on the I7.

Intel would be a good place to look to get in-depth info as to the differences 
in the i5 and i7 lines.

> On Dec 30, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
> HI.
> Great explanation.  But can you tell me the hardware difference between a 
> quad core i5 and a quad core i7?  Thanks.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:27 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Let’s start from the beginning.
> 
> You can think of processor cores as processors in their own right.  Each core 
> computes at its clock speed, sharing some resources with the other cores but 
> essentially operating independently.  Operating systems of today try to 
> exploit multicore (and, indeed, multiprocessor) systems, by spreading the 
> threads of execution (be they separate independent processes, or separate 
> threads of an individual process) across the cores and/or processors.  Using 
> threads of execution that operate in parallel is of course going to produce 
> results faster than merely executing instructions on a single core.  The days 
> of merely increasing the clock speed are mostly behind us now, but it was 
> once the norm that operating systems would not really benefit from such 
> parallelism, so that increasing the clock speed was really the only way to go 
> faster.
> 
> Now, this is all fairly simple, but there is an extra complication.  Intel 
> processors have a feature called “Hyperthreading”, which tries to make better 
> use of the processor chip, by virtualising processor cores.  These cores are 
> distinct from real processor cores, to operating systems that know the 
> difference.  In fact, though, they are really sharing a physical core with 
> another hyperthread.  Hyperthreads can improve performance, but they do not 
> run independently; there is contention for the resources on that physical 
> core they share.  It is when the contention does not exist that the CPU can 
> exploit parallelism within that core.  You can think of it as a sort of 
> “Accelerated computation” for the CPU, in much the way that “Accelerated 
> graphics” is what you get when GPU (graphics) hardware assists the rendering 
> of graphics.
> 
> What does all this mean?  Well, it means that you need to plan your CPU usage 
> carefully, or not, as your requirements dictate.  If you want to guarantee a 
> fair balance between host and guest, split up the CPU count.  For a quad-core 
> system, let Windows have two cores.  You’ll get a known-good balance no 
> matter how hard the operating systems should work their respective processor 
> cores, whether at a standstill or in full flight.  On the other hand, you 
> might care less for the performance of your VM; then you reduce the core 
> count, and hope that your operating system will not mind the reduced parallel 
> clock speed.  Entirely feasible for Linux, for instance, although I wouldn’t 
> enjoy using Windows above Vista like that for long.  And finally, you can go 
> the other extreme: you can give it all to your VM.  I do this.  It’s much 
> riskier; you had better be sure your OS does not draw more than it really 
> requires, and you can hurt yourself if your host is starved for long periods. 
>  But, again for Linux, which is very good at idling the chip when not in use, 
> this is entirely feasible.
> 
> And about the number of cores available for each VM being higher than the 
> number of physical cores, that’s hyperthreading.  VMWare Fusion will do the 
> right thing, balancing your choice of cores evenly between hyperthreaded 
> cores.  So actually, a quad-core system has 8 virtual processors, and a 
> balanced system takes 4 virtual cores.  A single-core system that could 
> benefit from hyperthreading could easily be given 2 virtual cores without any 
> ill effect.  And, yes, if you set the core count to 8, your VM could easily 
> take down the host if it loses control.
> 
> So, that’s the story.  I hope this explains what’s happening, and answers 
> your question.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
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RE: Best configuration for new mac?

[Bill Holton]

Yes, I do see quad core i5's in the Apple refurb store.  Guessing the clock 
speed is the only difference?


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?

So the difference between an I5 and I7 is the I7 is a more advanced and better 
performing chip.  I’m not sure but I don’t think the I5 is available in quad 
core configurations, for sure the I5 is in dual core configurations as I have 
seen them in Macs frequently.  The I7 does in fact have a quad core 
configuration so in most cases you’ll have double the cores, the clock rate is 
faster in the I7, the clock can be overclocked higher on the I7.

Intel would be a good place to look to get in-depth info as to the differences 
in the i5 and i7 lines.

> On Dec 30, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
> HI.
> Great explanation.  But can you tell me the hardware difference between a 
> quad core i5 and a quad core i7?  Thanks.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:27 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Let’s start from the beginning.
> 
> You can think of processor cores as processors in their own right.  Each core 
> computes at its clock speed, sharing some resources with the other cores but 
> essentially operating independently.  Operating systems of today try to 
> exploit multicore (and, indeed, multiprocessor) systems, by spreading the 
> threads of execution (be they separate independent processes, or separate 
> threads of an individual process) across the cores and/or processors.  Using 
> threads of execution that operate in parallel is of course going to produce 
> results faster than merely executing instructions on a single core.  The days 
> of merely increasing the clock speed are mostly behind us now, but it was 
> once the norm that operating systems would not really benefit from such 
> parallelism, so that increasing the clock speed was really the only way to go 
> faster.
> 
> Now, this is all fairly simple, but there is an extra complication.  Intel 
> processors have a feature called “Hyperthreading”, which tries to make better 
> use of the processor chip, by virtualising processor cores.  These cores are 
> distinct from real processor cores, to operating systems that know the 
> difference.  In fact, though, they are really sharing a physical core with 
> another hyperthread.  Hyperthreads can improve performance, but they do not 
> run independently; there is contention for the resources on that physical 
> core they share.  It is when the contention does not exist that the CPU can 
> exploit parallelism within that core.  You can think of it as a sort of 
> “Accelerated computation” for the CPU, in much the way that “Accelerated 
> graphics” is what you get when GPU (graphics) hardware assists the rendering 
> of graphics.
> 
> What does all this mean?  Well, it means that you need to plan your CPU usage 
> carefully, or not, as your requirements dictate.  If you want to guarantee a 
> fair balance between host and guest, split up the CPU count.  For a quad-core 
> system, let Windows have two cores.  You’ll get a known-good balance no 
> matter how hard the operating systems should work their respective processor 
> cores, whether at a standstill or in full flight.  On the other hand, you 
> might care less for the performance of your VM; then you reduce the core 
> count, and hope that your operating system will not mind the reduced parallel 
> clock speed.  Entirely feasible for Linux, for instance, although I wouldn’t 
> enjoy using Windows above Vista like that for long.  And finally, you can go 
> the other extreme: you can give it all to your VM.  I do this.  It’s much 
> riskier; you had better be sure your OS does not draw more than it really 
> requires, and you can hurt yourself if your host is starved for long periods. 
>  But, again for Linux, which is very good at idling the chip when not in use, 
> this is entirely feasible.
> 
> And about the number of cores available for each VM being higher than the 
> number of physical cores, that’s hyperthreading.  VMWare Fusion will do the 
> right thing, balancing your choice of cores evenly between hyperthreaded 
> cores.  So actually, a quad-core system has 8 virtual processors, and a 
> balanced system takes 4 virtual cores.  A single-core system that could 
> benefit from hyperthreading could easily be given 2 virtual cores without any 
> ill effect.  And, yes, if you set the core count to 8, your VM could easily 
> take down the host if it loses control.
> 
> So, that’s the story.  I hope this explains what’s happening, and answe

Re: Best configuration for new mac?

[Scott Granados]

No, the instruction sets are more optimized on the I7 and I think there is a 
different number of pipelines.

Again, Intel would be the authority here on the two but I know the I7 is a fair 
bit more processor and it’s definitely not just clock rate.

> On Dec 30, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I do see quad core i5's in the Apple refurb store.  Guessing the clock 
> speed is the only difference?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:15 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?
> 
> So the difference between an I5 and I7 is the I7 is a more advanced and 
> better performing chip.  I’m not sure but I don’t think the I5 is available 
> in quad core configurations, for sure the I5 is in dual core configurations 
> as I have seen them in Macs frequently.  The I7 does in fact have a quad core 
> configuration so in most cases you’ll have double the cores, the clock rate 
> is faster in the I7, the clock can be overclocked higher on the I7.
> 
> Intel would be a good place to look to get in-depth info as to the 
> differences in the i5 and i7 lines.
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>> 
>> HI.
>> Great explanation.  But can you tell me the hardware difference between a 
>> quad core i5 and a quad core i7?  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:27 AM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?
>> 
>> Hi Andrew,
>> 
>> Let’s start from the beginning.
>> 
>> You can think of processor cores as processors in their own right.  Each 
>> core computes at its clock speed, sharing some resources with the other 
>> cores but essentially operating independently.  Operating systems of today 
>> try to exploit multicore (and, indeed, multiprocessor) systems, by spreading 
>> the threads of execution (be they separate independent processes, or 
>> separate threads of an individual process) across the cores and/or 
>> processors.  Using threads of execution that operate in parallel is of 
>> course going to produce results faster than merely executing instructions on 
>> a single core.  The days of merely increasing the clock speed are mostly 
>> behind us now, but it was once the norm that operating systems would not 
>> really benefit from such parallelism, so that increasing the clock speed was 
>> really the only way to go faster.
>> 
>> Now, this is all fairly simple, but there is an extra complication.  Intel 
>> processors have a feature called “Hyperthreading”, which tries to make 
>> better use of the processor chip, by virtualising processor cores.  These 
>> cores are distinct from real processor cores, to operating systems that know 
>> the difference.  In fact, though, they are really sharing a physical core 
>> with another hyperthread.  Hyperthreads can improve performance, but they do 
>> not run independently; there is contention for the resources on that 
>> physical core they share.  It is when the contention does not exist that the 
>> CPU can exploit parallelism within that core.  You can think of it as a sort 
>> of “Accelerated computation” for the CPU, in much the way that “Accelerated 
>> graphics” is what you get when GPU (graphics) hardware assists the rendering 
>> of graphics.
>> 
>> What does all this mean?  Well, it means that you need to plan your CPU 
>> usage carefully, or not, as your requirements dictate.  If you want to 
>> guarantee a fair balance between host and guest, split up the CPU count.  
>> For a quad-core system, let Windows have two cores.  You’ll get a known-good 
>> balance no matter how hard the operating systems should work their 
>> respective processor cores, whether at a standstill or in full flight.  On 
>> the other hand, you might care less for the performance of your VM; then you 
>> reduce the core count, and hope that your operating system will not mind the 
>> reduced parallel clock speed.  Entirely feasible for Linux, for instance, 
>> although I wouldn’t enjoy using Windows above Vista like that for long.  And 
>> finally, you can go the other extreme: you can give it all to your VM.  I do 
>> this.  It’s much riskier; you had better be sure your OS does not draw more 
>> than it really requires, and you can hurt yourself if your host is starved 
>> for long periods.  But, again for Linux, which is very good at idling the 
>> chip when not in use, this is entirely feasible.
>> 
>> And about the number of cores available for each VM being higher than the 
>> number of physical cores, that’s hyperthreading.  VMWare Fusion will do the 
>> right thing, balancing your choice of cores evenly between hyperthreaded 
>> cores.  So act

Re: Best configuration for new mac?

[Scott Granados]

Here’s a good article that details the differences of the I3, I5 and I7.  This 
way we don’t have to guess.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/buying-advice/pc-components/whats-difference-between-intel-core-i3-i5-i7-3417091/


> On Dec 30, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I do see quad core i5's in the Apple refurb store.  Guessing the clock 
> speed is the only difference?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:15 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?
> 
> So the difference between an I5 and I7 is the I7 is a more advanced and 
> better performing chip.  I’m not sure but I don’t think the I5 is available 
> in quad core configurations, for sure the I5 is in dual core configurations 
> as I have seen them in Macs frequently.  The I7 does in fact have a quad core 
> configuration so in most cases you’ll have double the cores, the clock rate 
> is faster in the I7, the clock can be overclocked higher on the I7.
> 
> Intel would be a good place to look to get in-depth info as to the 
> differences in the i5 and i7 lines.
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>> 
>> HI.
>> Great explanation.  But can you tell me the hardware difference between a 
>> quad core i5 and a quad core i7?  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:27 AM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?
>> 
>> Hi Andrew,
>> 
>> Let’s start from the beginning.
>> 
>> You can think of processor cores as processors in their own right.  Each 
>> core computes at its clock speed, sharing some resources with the other 
>> cores but essentially operating independently.  Operating systems of today 
>> try to exploit multicore (and, indeed, multiprocessor) systems, by spreading 
>> the threads of execution (be they separate independent processes, or 
>> separate threads of an individual process) across the cores and/or 
>> processors.  Using threads of execution that operate in parallel is of 
>> course going to produce results faster than merely executing instructions on 
>> a single core.  The days of merely increasing the clock speed are mostly 
>> behind us now, but it was once the norm that operating systems would not 
>> really benefit from such parallelism, so that increasing the clock speed was 
>> really the only way to go faster.
>> 
>> Now, this is all fairly simple, but there is an extra complication.  Intel 
>> processors have a feature called “Hyperthreading”, which tries to make 
>> better use of the processor chip, by virtualising processor cores.  These 
>> cores are distinct from real processor cores, to operating systems that know 
>> the difference.  In fact, though, they are really sharing a physical core 
>> with another hyperthread.  Hyperthreads can improve performance, but they do 
>> not run independently; there is contention for the resources on that 
>> physical core they share.  It is when the contention does not exist that the 
>> CPU can exploit parallelism within that core.  You can think of it as a sort 
>> of “Accelerated computation” for the CPU, in much the way that “Accelerated 
>> graphics” is what you get when GPU (graphics) hardware assists the rendering 
>> of graphics.
>> 
>> What does all this mean?  Well, it means that you need to plan your CPU 
>> usage carefully, or not, as your requirements dictate.  If you want to 
>> guarantee a fair balance between host and guest, split up the CPU count.  
>> For a quad-core system, let Windows have two cores.  You’ll get a known-good 
>> balance no matter how hard the operating systems should work their 
>> respective processor cores, whether at a standstill or in full flight.  On 
>> the other hand, you might care less for the performance of your VM; then you 
>> reduce the core count, and hope that your operating system will not mind the 
>> reduced parallel clock speed.  Entirely feasible for Linux, for instance, 
>> although I wouldn’t enjoy using Windows above Vista like that for long.  And 
>> finally, you can go the other extreme: you can give it all to your VM.  I do 
>> this.  It’s much riskier; you had better be sure your OS does not draw more 
>> than it really requires, and you can hurt yourself if your host is starved 
>> for long periods.  But, again for Linux, which is very good at idling the 
>> chip when not in use, this is entirely feasible.
>> 
>> And about the number of cores available for each VM being higher than the 
>> number of physical cores, that’s hyperthreading.  VMWare Fusion will do the 
>> right thing, balancing your choice of cores evenly between hyperthreaded 
>> cores.  So actually, a quad-core system has 8 

Why is mail consistently quitting after update to El Capitan?

[Christine Grassman]

I finally took the plunge and updated. Everything seems to be absolutely fine, 
except for mail. It keeps quitting. I have tried rebooting twice, but to no 
avail. It is driving me crazy. Please assist.
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Re: Best configuration for new mac?

[Andrew Lamanche]

I have done some more reading on this after Sabahattin's indepth message.  I 
understand that whilst i5 and i7 are both quad processors, i5 has not got hyper 
threading  which makes it less efficient but not by much.
> On 30 Dec 2015, at 18:08, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
> HI.
> Great explanation.  But can you tell me the hardware difference between a 
> quad core i5 and a quad core i7?  Thanks.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:27 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Let’s start from the beginning.
> 
> You can think of processor cores as processors in their own right.  Each core 
> computes at its clock speed, sharing some resources with the other cores but 
> essentially operating independently.  Operating systems of today try to 
> exploit multicore (and, indeed, multiprocessor) systems, by spreading the 
> threads of execution (be they separate independent processes, or separate 
> threads of an individual process) across the cores and/or processors.  Using 
> threads of execution that operate in parallel is of course going to produce 
> results faster than merely executing instructions on a single core.  The days 
> of merely increasing the clock speed are mostly behind us now, but it was 
> once the norm that operating systems would not really benefit from such 
> parallelism, so that increasing the clock speed was really the only way to go 
> faster.
> 
> Now, this is all fairly simple, but there is an extra complication.  Intel 
> processors have a feature called “Hyperthreading”, which tries to make better 
> use of the processor chip, by virtualising processor cores.  These cores are 
> distinct from real processor cores, to operating systems that know the 
> difference.  In fact, though, they are really sharing a physical core with 
> another hyperthread.  Hyperthreads can improve performance, but they do not 
> run independently; there is contention for the resources on that physical 
> core they share.  It is when the contention does not exist that the CPU can 
> exploit parallelism within that core.  You can think of it as a sort of 
> “Accelerated computation” for the CPU, in much the way that “Accelerated 
> graphics” is what you get when GPU (graphics) hardware assists the rendering 
> of graphics.
> 
> What does all this mean?  Well, it means that you need to plan your CPU usage 
> carefully, or not, as your requirements dictate.  If you want to guarantee a 
> fair balance between host and guest, split up the CPU count.  For a quad-core 
> system, let Windows have two cores.  You’ll get a known-good balance no 
> matter how hard the operating systems should work their respective processor 
> cores, whether at a standstill or in full flight.  On the other hand, you 
> might care less for the performance of your VM; then you reduce the core 
> count, and hope that your operating system will not mind the reduced parallel 
> clock speed.  Entirely feasible for Linux, for instance, although I wouldn’t 
> enjoy using Windows above Vista like that for long.  And finally, you can go 
> the other extreme: you can give it all to your VM.  I do this.  It’s much 
> riskier; you had better be sure your OS does not draw more than it really 
> requires, and you can hurt yourself if your host is starved for long periods. 
>  But, again for Linux, which is very good at idling the chip when not in use, 
> this is entirely feasible.
> 
> And about the number of cores available for each VM being higher than the 
> number of physical cores, that’s hyperthreading.  VMWare Fusion will do the 
> right thing, balancing your choice of cores evenly between hyperthreaded 
> cores.  So actually, a quad-core system has 8 virtual processors, and a 
> balanced system takes 4 virtual cores.  A single-core system that could 
> benefit from hyperthreading could easily be given 2 virtual cores without any 
> ill effect.  And, yes, if you set the core count to 8, your VM could easily 
> take down the host if it loses control.
> 
> So, that’s the story.  I hope this explains what’s happening, and answers 
> your question.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
> 
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RE: Best configuration for new mac?

[Bill Holton]

Here's a new twist.
I have had some trouble with my current VM.  Spoke with tech support, they 
asked how many cores I had decidated.  I said two, and that is two out of eight 
on a quad core i7 listed in the VM settings menu.  They advised me to lower it 
to one, said that is what they recommend.  Doesn't make sense to me.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:31 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?

No, the instruction sets are more optimized on the I7 and I think there is a 
different number of pipelines.

Again, Intel would be the authority here on the two but I know the I7 is a fair 
bit more processor and it’s definitely not just clock rate.

> On Dec 30, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I do see quad core i5's in the Apple refurb store.  Guessing the clock 
> speed is the only difference?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:15 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?
> 
> So the difference between an I5 and I7 is the I7 is a more advanced and 
> better performing chip.  I’m not sure but I don’t think the I5 is available 
> in quad core configurations, for sure the I5 is in dual core configurations 
> as I have seen them in Macs frequently.  The I7 does in fact have a quad core 
> configuration so in most cases you’ll have double the cores, the clock rate 
> is faster in the I7, the clock can be overclocked higher on the I7.
> 
> Intel would be a good place to look to get in-depth info as to the 
> differences in the i5 and i7 lines.
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Bill Holton  wrote:
>> 
>> HI.
>> Great explanation.  But can you tell me the hardware difference between a 
>> quad core i5 and a quad core i7?  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:27 AM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?
>> 
>> Hi Andrew,
>> 
>> Let’s start from the beginning.
>> 
>> You can think of processor cores as processors in their own right.  Each 
>> core computes at its clock speed, sharing some resources with the other 
>> cores but essentially operating independently.  Operating systems of today 
>> try to exploit multicore (and, indeed, multiprocessor) systems, by spreading 
>> the threads of execution (be they separate independent processes, or 
>> separate threads of an individual process) across the cores and/or 
>> processors.  Using threads of execution that operate in parallel is of 
>> course going to produce results faster than merely executing instructions on 
>> a single core.  The days of merely increasing the clock speed are mostly 
>> behind us now, but it was once the norm that operating systems would not 
>> really benefit from such parallelism, so that increasing the clock speed was 
>> really the only way to go faster.
>> 
>> Now, this is all fairly simple, but there is an extra complication.  Intel 
>> processors have a feature called “Hyperthreading”, which tries to make 
>> better use of the processor chip, by virtualising processor cores.  These 
>> cores are distinct from real processor cores, to operating systems that know 
>> the difference.  In fact, though, they are really sharing a physical core 
>> with another hyperthread.  Hyperthreads can improve performance, but they do 
>> not run independently; there is contention for the resources on that 
>> physical core they share.  It is when the contention does not exist that the 
>> CPU can exploit parallelism within that core.  You can think of it as a sort 
>> of “Accelerated computation” for the CPU, in much the way that “Accelerated 
>> graphics” is what you get when GPU (graphics) hardware assists the rendering 
>> of graphics.
>> 
>> What does all this mean?  Well, it means that you need to plan your CPU 
>> usage carefully, or not, as your requirements dictate.  If you want to 
>> guarantee a fair balance between host and guest, split up the CPU count.  
>> For a quad-core system, let Windows have two cores.  You’ll get a known-good 
>> balance no matter how hard the operating systems should work their 
>> respective processor cores, whether at a standstill or in full flight.  On 
>> the other hand, you might care less for the performance of your VM; then you 
>> reduce the core count, and hope that your operating system will not mind the 
>> reduced parallel clock speed.  Entirely feasible for Linux, for instance, 
>> although I wouldn’t enjoy using Windows above Vista like that for long.  And 
>> finally, you can go the other extre

Re: Best configuration for new mac?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Bill, if one core is working for you and not giving you any trouble, go for it. 
 My experience is definitely that a single-core Windows VM is a lot more 
sluggish than I’d like.  It works, but it’s not at all pleasant once you start 
using the machine full-time, even with all the background services turned off 
and no antivirus.  MacBook Air owners and Mac Mini users will probably all find 
themselves with MacBook Pros before long.  MacBook Air users especially acutely 
because those CPUs are slow as well as dual-core.  YMMV, of course.

I actually don’t like hyperthreading very much.  It helps, but it does so 
inefficiently.  The CPU is essentially cheating the OS into allowing the CPU to 
try and optimise workloads, but that creates an additional obligation for the 
OS to try to avoid allocating virtual cores that share physical cores with 
workloads, like virtualisation, that really need guaranteed performance.  
Without hyperthreading, the OS would be able to make much better guarantees 
about CPU resources, including some measure of “Fairness”.  Of course the 
counterpoint here is that without hyperthreading, the CPU would often be 
under-utilised, regardless of whether threads had guaranteed CPU resources.  
So, yes, it probably had to happen.  The workarounds to the workarounds were 
developed, and we all lived happily ever after.

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MAC OS X El Capitan 10.11 Bootable Flash Drive

[Keith Bucher]

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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Vaughn Brown]

I love listening to my cheap radio that sits above my kitchen sink.
A bit old fashioned, but hey! LOL
Vaughn

On 12/29/15, Scott Granados  wrote:
> I know, this was the old days, reminds me of old family road trips.  XM is
> another great solution to the problem of having to change channels.  XM got
> their start I think being sold in truckstops for obvious reasons.
>
>
>
>
>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 7:20 PM, Jessica Moss 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I love tunin, someone introduced me to that about 3 years ago back when I
>> used to use iheart radio, and I like that so much better, especially sense
>> it picks back up on whatever station you were listening to when you closed
>> it.
>>  I love those apps so much better than a regular frequency radio,
>> considering the fact, that unless you travel through an area where you
>> lose your internet connection, you can listen to the same station forever
>> if you want, and don't have to worry about it phasing out just because
>> you're leaving the state.  That was one thing I hated about traveling; we
>> would get used to 1 station, then about 20 mins or less, I'd have to look
>> again for another station because we lost the one we were listening to, or
>> just retire the radio altogether and try to find a tape that we all
>> liked.
>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 6:08 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Brent Harding  wrote:
 I don't think the iPhones ever had one. The radio might be part of the
 chips
 in there, but Apple disabled it somehow to where we can't turn it on. I
 think this is something exclusively for Android phones, but it would
 require
 headphones or a cable hooked to speakers to use for its antenna, so it
 wouldn't be real useful when the broadcasters say one would need it most
 on
 those TV ads because most of us don't carry wired headphones around.
>>>
>>> If you have reliable Internet access, however, you can listen to any of
>>> a
>>> large number of radio stations via streaming. A friend introduced me to
>>> the
>>> TuneIn radio application (http://www.tunein.com/), available on the Web
>>> as
>>> well as for iOS and Android devices. It works well with VoiceOver under
>>> iOS.
>>>
>>> The larger story here is that the Internet is gradually superseding
>>> other
>>> communications technologies. At the moment, it doesn't handle broadcast
>>> scenarios well: an individual audio stream for each listener is very
>>> inefficient. On the other hand, peoples' listening habits are changing.
>>> Unless
>>> it's a news program or a live event, I want it "on demand", on my
>>> schedule, not on a
>>> broadcaster's schedule.
>>>
>>> All I have at the moment is a mobile phone and an Internet connection -
>>> that's
>>> surprisingly sufficient (and I've been a radio listening enthusiast for
>>> decades).
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Re: MAC OS X El Capitan 10.11 Bootable Flash Drive

[Singing Sparrow]

I would also like to know if anyone has used this flash drive and from 
the seller as well does it really work for that price?


On 12/30/2015 3:25 PM, Keith Bucher wrote:

Hello,
Has anyone used any of these bootable flash drives from Amazon and sold by Palm 
Disks? The URL for this one is:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015HCZDJS/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1451509581&sr=8-2&keywords=el-capitan+flash+drive




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Re: Router recomendations?

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Sabahattin,

All this info is extremely helpful and reassuring.  Thank you so much!

Would you or anybody else on the list who has a DrayTek v130  be able to 
describe the arrangements of the ports and controls on it if one is holding it 
with the control panel facing me, I assume it would be back panel?  I will be 
receiving it in a couple of days and I will be alone at home without sighted 
help so I want to make sure I plug in the rj11 cable into the right port and 
the ethernet rj45 into the right one too.

And also, where do they put the serial number of the unit ?  Is it on the 
underside of the modem?  And if yes, would I be able to scan it?

Many thanks

Andrew
> On 30 Dec 2015, at 15:07, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> You needn’t reset your AirPort Extreme if you don’t want to, although it’s 
> certainly a very quick way to get going.  Instead, just make sure the WAN 
> port is connected to your v130 (that’s the port nearest the USB socket on 
> AirPort) and that your modem is connected to phone line and power, and then 
> change from bridge mode to PPPoE, entering the needed parameters.  AirPort 
> Utility is included in OS X, and you can download it for iOS.  The settings 
> are under “Internet”.  I suggest you visit the other sections in both 
> utilities and verify all is well, since changing from bridge to router is 
> quite a big change, and you will find that more settings are opened up to 
> you, if you need them (DHCP, NAT options, etc).
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Does anyone know how to select emojis in the Keyboard Palate

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

Just wondering how to do this.  I have the category selected, but I only see 
one emoji.  How do I access the other emojis in that category?
Thanks,
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Re: MAC OS X El Capitan 10.11 Bootable Flash Drive

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

The description just says it’s a flash drive with a copy of El Capitan on it.  
Why on earth wouldn’t you just buy the flash drive yourself and create your 
own?  Seems like a much safer and cheaper route …

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Re: Router recomendations?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Hi Andrew,

The Draytek v130 is very simple.  With its feet down and back panel and ports 
away from you, you have a power socket, a simple spring-lock power button, the 
Ethernet RJ45 port, then the phone line RJ11 socket.

Grab the latest firmware from the Draytek UK site, just in case you will wish 
to upgrade it.  The same place has the user manual, such as it is.  As 
documented, the modem has a management interface, using Ethernet.  I doubt you 
will need or want to access it, but if you should, that is where you’d upgrade 
the firmware as necessary and, if I remember, also locate the serial number, 
should you need it.  Except for registering with Draytek, which is not actually 
required to get the downloads, I can’t think of a use for the serial number.  
Just plug in the equipment and set up.  The interface for your AirPort is also 
the management port, so if you want to access the management interface, it must 
necessarily be connected directly to your computer.  For this reason, you may 
like to get it all over with first, before setting it up as your modem.  That 
way you can be running the latest and greatest firmware from the get go.

Good luck.  I’m sure you’ll love it.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: about Skype

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Is there a dialogue box open? Try a window list. 


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Dec 28, 2015, at 5:06 PM, Rebecca Sabo  wrote:
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> Some reason my Skype on my mack keeps saying it is busy all the time .  Is 
> there something to fix it ?  Also some times I do not hear it ring .
> Becky 
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Talking Dashboard humor

[E.T.]

Alex,
   Maybe you ran into this? Too funny. I wanted the time so pressed the 
option and t only I pressed t twice. Try it for laughs.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

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Family tree Mac apps

[Traci]

Hi all, 

Does anyone have a recommendation on a Mac app for family trees? I am using 
various websites for the research, however filling in the tree is more 
challenging. I'd like a stand alone app to easily fill in the branches of my 
family tree. 

Thank you, I appreciate it. 
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radio broadcasting software for the mac.

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hello friends. 
A few friends of mine here in Greece started a radio station and they are 
broadcasting over the internet having fun and all and I would like to do the 
same. 
However they are using windows and most of them use something called sam 
broadcaster, not sure about the exact name of the program. 
I need all the expected functions of such software, mixing songs, using a mic 
to talk, create playlists etc. 
Is there any voice over friendly software that will help me to do this? Even 
better, is it possible to use an external mixer of some sort to manipulate 
functions of the program and also use higher quality microphones for talking on 
the radio? 
Any experience or help in this matter is very much appreciated. 

Regards.
Nektarios.

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buying and selling apps

[Gabe Griffith]

Hi all,

Does anyone know of an accessible app for buying and selling stuff? I tried one 
called close5 that I've heard advertised on the TV and radio but it doesn't 
really seem to be accessible.

Thanks,

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Installing El Capitan

[Gary]

I’m downloading El Capitan, and I got an Install OS X dialog box that says:’
To set up the installation of OS X10.11, Click continue.
Is this where I close the dialog box or do I click the continue button?  I want 
to create a bootable USB disk.  The download only took about 20 minutes, and I 
thought it would take longer.
Thanks!
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Re: Installing El Capitan

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Once it comes up with the OS X install dialog, you can close the dialog box.

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Having voiceover speak selected text in iOS

[Phil Halton]

Is there a command I can use to have voiceover speak whatever text happens to 
be selected? I'm working in the notes app and would like to be able to hear 
what text is actually selected.


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Re: Installing El Capitan

[Gary]

Okay, Thanks!
Gary
On Dec 30, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Daniel Chavez  wrote:

> Once it comes up with the OS X install dialog, you can close the dialog box.
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Installing braille embosser

[E.T.]

   I finally am doing this on the Mac and as soon as I hit the Add 
button in Printer prefs, a test page was run off. The Juliet Classic is 
connected via USB. "Use Generic Postscript Printer" was selected. Is 
this the correct setup?


   If not, how do I add the embosser? I do not want to waste any more 
paper. Thanks.


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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

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Re: radio and iPhone 5S

[Jim Gatteys]

Hey I know the feeling.   still like putting a cd into the player and sitting 
down with a good brewski and listening to some good jazz.

> On Dec 30, 2015, at 3:52 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
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> I love listening to my cheap radio that sits above my kitchen sink.
> A bit old fashioned, but hey! LOL
> Vaughn

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Re: Playing voicemails in Skype on IOS and OS X

[joseph hudson]

Hi Matthew, on the Mac I have never found a way to play the voicemails. On the 
iPhone, I'm able to double tap on the voicemail and it will play.
Joseph Hudson
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> On Dec 30, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
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> Hi guys,
> I can’t figure this out for the life of me. I have received a voicemail on 
> Skype, and I can’t figure out how to play it on either my iPhone, iPad or my 
> Mac. My mac doesn’t even seem to see the voicemail message. Is there a way to 
> play it?
> When I hit the voicemail, there’s no play button, and it just sits there on 
> the iPhone.
> 
> God bless.
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Re: Playing voicemails in Skype on IOS and OS X

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi!
I've been able to interact with the grid that says voice mail and find a play 
button.  I don't have any voice mails now to check it out.
Jim

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> Hi Matthew, on the Mac I have never found a way to play the voicemails. On 
> the iPhone, I'm able to double tap on the voicemail and it will play.
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Speak selection accessibility item for voiceover in iOS

[Phil Halton]

In the accessibility settings under speech, there is an item for both speak 
selection and speak screen. I have used the HE why Siri command to do is speak 
screen, and that works fine. However I cannot get the speak selection to work. 
The instructions say that a Speak button will appear when text is selection 
selected but I can't find the speak button anywhere. Has anyone gotten the 
Speak selection accessibility thing to work?

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Choosing a Mac, getting started

[John Ylioja]

I recently joined this group and would like to learn more about using 
the Mac and its accessibility.  I am considering buying a Mac, and have 
been exploring some different models.  I would appreciate any input 
anyone may have before I buy one.


My main purposes right now for using the mac would be for learning how 
the OS works, using web browsing, email, word processing, listening to 
audio files, and trying some audio editing.  I'd also like to try Apple 
Script, Python, and maybe the new Swift programming language.  Does 
VoiceOver work well in the terminal?


I would also like to have the option to run Windows as a virtual 
machine, and am considering whether to get 8 GB of RAM or go with 4.


Recently when working on my resume, I found it helpful that my Windows 
screen reader was able to tell me the horizontal and vertical position 
of the cursor so that I could tell how far down on the page the text 
was, and make sure text was lined up horizontally.  Does VoiceOver offer 
this kind of feedback in either Pages or Microsoft Office?


I'm mainly considering the Mac Mini, Macbook Air, or Macbook.  From 
reading Apple's OS X requirements, many 2012 or newer models of the Mac 
Mini are supported.  If I go with a Macbook Air or Macbook, I may go for 
a newer machine to maximize its battery life since the battery isn't 
easily replaceable.  Would I be ok with getting a Mac Mini from 2012 or 
newer if I decide to go with one of those, instead of buying the latest 
model, or are there any drawbacks from an accessibility standpoint?


How valuable is it to have a numeric pad?  I understand VoiceOver has a 
numpad commander that can be used to assign keyboard commands.  Would it 
be worth considering an external Apple keyboard with a numeric pad if I 
buy a laptop without one?  How about a trackpad, if I choose a Mac Mini 
without one built in?


One of the things I am excited about is access to the recovery software, 
and being able to easily create and run Mac OS from an external hard 
drive or flash drive for troubleshooting or as a second system for 
experimenting.  Can I use an existing external hard drive and 
repartition it so that I have a partition for backup file storage and a 
second partition to install OS X, or would it be better to have OS X as 
the only thing on the external drive?  I recall reading that when 
choosing a startup OS by holding the option key at startup that there is 
no speech.  Are there other screens like this to be aware of?


Thanks for any ideas.

John

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