Re: messages app not connecting to Facebook anymore.

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Did you create a Trillian account? You can't add accounts until you perform 
this step.

Shawn
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> On Dec 27, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> Ok, I've just installed it but can't figure out how to add accounts, how in 
> the world do you do this?
> On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
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>> Hey guys. I haven't been paying attention to this thread up until now, but 
>> have you tried using Trillian for Facebook? It's free and very accessible.
>> 
>> Shawn
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>>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't get why they would do that; it's not like we're doing anything 
>>> illegal by using the mac's 3rd party app to connect to them, so what's the 
>>> problem?
>>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Grant  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Matthew,
 
 Yep, it appears that we won’t be able to use Facebook Chat from within the 
 Messages App as XMPP support is being deprecated. I finally removed my 
 account the other day. This is extremely unfortunate as it is by far the 
 most accessible experience I’ve ever found for chatting with Facebook 
 friends, on any platform.
 
> On Dec 27, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Matthew Dyer 
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> Hi  all.
> 
> I think this has to do with face book shuting dow the 3rd party api  
> which allows app t9o connect with the facebook service.  HTH.
> 
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Re: does a mac need both VM Ware and bootcamp to run windows

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi Matt,

For me, the reason I run fusion is to use k1000.

I do have abby fine reader and docuscan on my mac as well, but nothing compares 
to k1000 for quality of recognition and ease of use from one peice of software.

If you could give hints and/or tips for using fine reader to get good results, 
that’d be great!  I am also trying to learn how to place bookmarks in a 
document, with whatever app works, so that I can access different parts of the 
document easily and with no fuss.  I am talking about text books and reference 
works here.  For example, I know that pages has the ability to place bookmarks, 
and so does i text express, but I have never been able to get them to work 
reliably.

thanks!
Caitlyn

> On Dec 27, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
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> My question to anyone who has windows or wants to put Windows on your Mac is 
> this. What are you wanting to do on windows that you don't think you'll be 
> able to do on your Mac? The problem usually with those who use windows on the 
> Mac is they get stuck with something on the Mac with voiceover and then 
> revert back to using windows and sometimes will end up just using Windows on 
> a Mac. I used VMware fusion for a while, but no hardly use windows as I can 
> do everything on my Mac.
> If you ever need any assistance, feel free to reach out to me or anyone on 
> the list. This list is a very helpful resource, and even helped me to where I 
> know train others on how to use the Mac.
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> On Dec 27, 2015, at 09:23, Rhonda Partain  > wrote:
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>> I am just wondering if both VM-Ware Fusion and Bootcamp are needed in order 
>> to run Windows on a mac?
>> 
>> I have both on my system  and have difficulty switching between windows and 
>> the mac system; I do not see the bootcamp disc in the settings to select 
>> which disc one wants to startup.
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>> Thanks for any thoughts.
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Re: Router recomendations?

[Scott Granados]

Wow, I would have thought the Apple Airport Extreme would have more than 
handled that.

I’d say DLink DIR-895, Netgear Nighthawk X8 8500 MikroTik or some of the newer 
Asus models.  Nether and DLink I have hands on experience with.

On the professional side you might look at some of the Ubiquiti stuff like 
their air routers and if you need high end wireless for low money their Unifi 
access points are quite good.  

 
> On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> 100mbps.
> /A
>> 26 dec. 2015 kl. 18:54 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> What speed internet connection do yu have.  Give me an idea of what you’re 
>> using for a service and I’ll be glad to provide some suggestions.  The speed 
>> helps me figure the price point.  Slower services require less forwarding 
>> horsepower.
>>> On Dec 26, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>>> Hi!
>>> Since i’ve found out that my airport extreme is a bottleneck in my network 
>>> i’ve digged the whole net for sollutions.
>>> The only sollution i’ve found out is  to buy a better router that supports 
>>> vpn clients.
>>> I’ve seen people recomending asus routers but they seem a bit pricey.
>>> What i want is a router that’s easy to use and setup.
>>> I was thinking of building one with my raspberry pi but i think i don’t 
>>> because i don’t know much about routers and networking.
>>> Any help is highly appreciated.
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> /A
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Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino

[Scott Granados]

Hi,

On my clock face there’s the time in Cupertino if you swipe all the way left.  
I tap on this and select new york but it never changes with voiceover.  I also 
removed Cupertino from my clock app.  Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

Thank you

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Apple Watch, do sometimes the screens fail to update for others?

[Scott Granados]

Hi,

Another thing I’m noticing as a new Apple watch user.  When you two finger 
swipe up through the various activities and views even if you swipe slowly and 
allow the screen to redraw do you sometimes find that nothing updates?  Also, I 
find in other places a similar thing where changes don’t appear to the display. 
 Anyone else notice this?   I’m running the latest Watch OS 2.1.

Thanks
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RE: Apple Watch, do sometimes the screens fail to update for others?

[george b]

Remember it needs to be b t, to your phone and unlocked.
Also if you have apps told to install on the watch, the first time you activate 
that app on the watch it has to install

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 06:31
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
Subject: Apple Watch, do sometimes the screens fail to update for others?

Hi,

Another thing I’m noticing as a new Apple watch user.  When you two finger 
swipe up through the various activities and views even if you swipe slowly and 
allow the screen to redraw do you sometimes find that nothing updates?  Also, I 
find in other places a similar thing where changes don’t appear to the display. 
 Anyone else notice this?   I’m running the latest Watch OS 2.1.

Thanks
Scott

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RE: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino

[george b]

Open the watch app on your phone, go to time and date and change it there and 
should reflect on your watch

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Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 06:29
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Subject: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino

Hi,

On my clock face there’s the time in Cupertino if you swipe all the way left.  
I tap on this and select new york but it never changes with voiceover.  I also 
removed Cupertino from my clock app.  Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

Thank you

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Re: Apple Watch, do sometimes the screens fail to update for others?

[Scott Granados]

Ah very good.

I’ll keep using it and see if that smooths out a bit.  It’s not bad just 
something I noticed from time to time.  You were right btw, love the watch.

> On Dec 28, 2015, at 9:33 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Remember it needs to be b t, to your phone and unlocked.
> Also if you have apps told to install on the watch, the first time you 
> activate that app on the watch it has to install
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 06:31
> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
> Subject: Apple Watch, do sometimes the screens fail to update for others?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Another thing I’m noticing as a new Apple watch user.  When you two finger 
> swipe up through the various activities and views even if you swipe slowly 
> and allow the screen to redraw do you sometimes find that nothing updates?  
> Also, I find in other places a similar thing where changes don’t appear to 
> the display.  Anyone else notice this?   I’m running the latest Watch OS 2.1.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
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Re: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino

[Scott Granados]

I don’t have a time and date option on the watch app.  I have a clock but 
nothing in there indicates the cities other than city abbreviations.

Must be doing something wrong on my side.

> On Dec 28, 2015, at 9:34 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Open the watch app on your phone, go to time and date and change it there and 
> should reflect on your watch
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 06:29
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> Subject: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On my clock face there’s the time in Cupertino if you swipe all the way left. 
>  I tap on this and select new york but it never changes with voiceover.  I 
> also removed Cupertino from my clock app.  Any suggestions would be most 
> appreciated.
> 
> Thank you
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Re: messages app not connecting to Facebook anymore.

[Jessica Moss]

I have, and added my facebook account, but when I launch trillian, it just 
continues to say "trillian has no windows," and can't figure out how to access 
it," and everything else is still dimmed.
On Dec 28, 2015, at 3:37 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

> Did you create a Trillian account? You can't add accounts until you perform 
> this step.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I've just installed it but can't figure out how to add accounts, how in 
>> the world do you do this?
>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
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>>> Hey guys. I haven't been paying attention to this thread up until now, but 
>>> have you tried using Trillian for Facebook? It's free and very accessible.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Jessica Moss  
 wrote:
 
 I don't get why they would do that; it's not like we're doing anything 
 illegal by using the mac's 3rd party app to connect to them, so what's the 
 problem?
 On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Grant  wrote:
 
> Hi Matthew,
> 
> Yep, it appears that we won’t be able to use Facebook Chat from within 
> the Messages App as XMPP support is being deprecated. I finally removed 
> my account the other day. This is extremely unfortunate as it is by far 
> the most accessible experience I’ve ever found for chatting with Facebook 
> friends, on any platform.
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Matthew Dyer 
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>> 
>> Hi  all.
>> 
>> I think this has to do with face book shuting dow the 3rd party api  
>> which allows app t9o connect with the facebook service.  HTH.
>> 
>> Matthew
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RE: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino

[george b]

Get on the clock face with your time and such
Now push the crown button once and you are in the list of apps etc.. it should 
say clock

Now flick with one finger right to left and it should say world clock and 
dubble tap on this
Now set the info to your east cost time, if it is the correct time already then 
just change the name from couperteinol to what you wish.

The time changes through your phone so you should have the correct time just 
you need to change the name

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Subject: Re: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino

I don’t have a time and date option on the watch app.  I have a clock but 
nothing in there indicates the cities other than city abbreviations.

Must be doing something wrong on my side.

> On Dec 28, 2015, at 9:34 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Open the watch app on your phone, go to time and date and change it there and 
> should reflect on your watch
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 06:29
> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
> Subject: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino
> 
> Hi,
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> On my clock face there’s the time in Cupertino if you swipe all the way left. 
>  I tap on this and select new york but it never changes with voiceover.  I 
> also removed Cupertino from my clock app.  Any suggestions would be most 
> appreciated.
> 
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wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello everyone,

I’m trying to get wifi calling to work on my Apple watch and having no luck. It 
works just fine on my Macbook, Mac mini, and iPad but not on the watch.

Has anyone else been able to get this to work? Especially those on the T-mobile 
network.

Thanks.

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Re: Apple Watch, do sometimes the screens fail to update for others?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Yes.

There is definitely some lag. I’ve realized I have to swipe through certain 
screens slower than I would wish.
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> and allow the screen to redraw do you sometimes find that nothing updates?  
> Also, I find in other places a similar thing where changes don’t appear to 
> the display.  Anyone else notice this?   I’m running the latest Watch OS 2.1.
> 
> Thanks
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Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Scott Granados]

Yes and Yes.  All I did was sync he watch and everything seemed to work.  I’m 
able to place and receive calls.  What have you tried and what issue / symptoms 
do you see with the watch?

 
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
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> Hello everyone,
> 
> I’m trying to get wifi calling to work on my Apple watch and having no luck. 
> It works just fine on my Macbook, Mac mini, and iPad but not on the watch.
> 
> Has anyone else been able to get this to work? Especially those on the 
> T-mobile network.
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> Thanks.
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Re: Apple Watch, do sometimes the screens fail to update for others?

[Scott Granados]

That’s probably the key to swipe through slowly in places.  Seems like it could 
use a slight bit more processing power which we’ll probably see in the next 
release.  Still though it’s damn cool and works well, that’s only a minor issue.


> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Yes.
> 
> There is definitely some lag. I’ve realized I have to swipe through certain 
> screens slower than I would wish.
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> Another thing I’m noticing as a new Apple watch user.  When you two finger 
>> swipe up through the various activities and views even if you swipe slowly 
>> and allow the screen to redraw do you sometimes find that nothing updates?  
>> Also, I find in other places a similar thing where changes don’t appear to 
>> the display.  Anyone else notice this?   I’m running the latest Watch OS 2.1.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
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Re: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I think this has to do with the complication setup.

from the main clock face of your watch, press down hard, and you will be on the 
page to select your watch face. By default, I believe you are on the module 
clock face. 1 finger swipe from left to right navigates through the clock 
faces. swipe down with with 1 finger to customize and double tap. where you 
have the complication for the world clock, select your current timezone.  Keep 
in mind, if you want more option here, open the clock app on your iPhone. 
select the world clock tab, and you can erase Cupertino altogether, or add 
different cities that will then show up when you are customizing your 
complications for your clock faces.

hth.
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> On my clock face there’s the time in Cupertino if you swipe all the way left. 
>  I tap on this and select new york but it never changes with voiceover.  I 
> also removed Cupertino from my clock app.  Any suggestions would be most 
> appreciated.
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Re: Apple Watch question, how to change or delete the Cuptertino

[Scott Granados]

Ah very cool.

I will give this a try, thanks for the pointer.

> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think this has to do with the complication setup.
> 
> from the main clock face of your watch, press down hard, and you will be on 
> the page to select your watch face. By default, I believe you are on the 
> module clock face. 1 finger swipe from left to right navigates through the 
> clock faces. swipe down with with 1 finger to customize and double tap. where 
> you have the complication for the world clock, select your current timezone.  
> Keep in mind, if you want more option here, open the clock app on your 
> iPhone. select the world clock tab, and you can erase Cupertino altogether, 
> or add different cities that will then show up when you are customizing your 
> complications for your clock faces.
> 
> hth.
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On my clock face there’s the time in Cupertino if you swipe all the way 
>> left.  I tap on this and select new york but it never changes with 
>> voiceover.  I also removed Cupertino from my clock app.  Any suggestions 
>> would be most appreciated.
>> 
>> Thank you
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Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Ricardo Walker]

So, I turned on wifi calling on my iPhone, and have enabled other devices to 
use wifi calling.  In the watch app, I have wifi calling enabled as well. So I 
turn off my phone, and attempt to make a call via my watch. The call fails 
every time. Same when making a call to my cell number. my iPad rings, my Mac 
rings, but the watch stays silent. The watch does indeed have a wifi 
connection, I double checked that.

I have notice on my iPhone under settings/phone/calls on other devices, my 
apple watch does not show up in this list.
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Yes and Yes.  All I did was sync he watch and everything seemed to work.  I’m 
> able to place and receive calls.  What have you tried and what issue / 
> symptoms do you see with the watch?
> 
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I’m trying to get wifi calling to work on my Apple watch and having no luck. 
>> It works just fine on my Macbook, Mac mini, and iPad but not on the watch.
>> 
>> Has anyone else been able to get this to work? Especially those on the 
>> T-mobile network.
>> 
>> Thanks.
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Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Scott Granados]

So I’m seeing the lack of watch listed under other devices as well, I just 
tried this.

I am not in range of a WiFi network that the watch could join though.  When I 
get home this evening I will give t his a more detailed try and see if I see 
something different.  I’m thinking I may have the same issue though but I will 
confirm.

> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
> So, I turned on wifi calling on my iPhone, and have enabled other devices to 
> use wifi calling.  In the watch app, I have wifi calling enabled as well. So 
> I turn off my phone, and attempt to make a call via my watch. The call fails 
> every time. Same when making a call to my cell number. my iPad rings, my Mac 
> rings, but the watch stays silent. The watch does indeed have a wifi 
> connection, I double checked that.
> 
> I have notice on my iPhone under settings/phone/calls on other devices, my 
> apple watch does not show up in this list.
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes and Yes.  All I did was sync he watch and everything seemed to work.  
>> I’m able to place and receive calls.  What have you tried and what issue / 
>> symptoms do you see with the watch?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> I’m trying to get wifi calling to work on my Apple watch and having no 
>>> luck. It works just fine on my Macbook, Mac mini, and iPad but not on the 
>>> watch.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else been able to get this to work? Especially those on the 
>>> T-mobile network.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
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Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Brent Harding]

I think this is another one of those features that has to be supported by 
the carrier. When I first got my watch, Sprint did not have it, so if the 
phone was on Wifi calling, the watch would simply not ring at all. If I was 
away and the phone was on cellular, the watch did ring. Now that Sprint 
enabled this feature, it works on both. I thought this phone calling through 
the watch was over bluetooth, but I guess it is a direct connection to the 
carrier you have.


- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Granados" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch


So I’m seeing the lack of watch listed under other devices as well, I just 
tried this.


I am not in range of a WiFi network that the watch could join though.  When 
I get home this evening I will give t his a more detailed try and see if I 
see something different.  I’m thinking I may have the same issue though but 
I will confirm.



On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

So, I turned on wifi calling on my iPhone, and have enabled other devices 
to use wifi calling.  In the watch app, I have wifi calling enabled as 
well. So I turn off my phone, and attempt to make a call via my watch. The 
call fails every time. Same when making a call to my cell number. my iPad 
rings, my Mac rings, but the watch stays silent. The watch does indeed 
have a wifi connection, I double checked that.


I have notice on my iPhone under settings/phone/calls on other devices, my 
apple watch does not show up in this list.

On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

Yes and Yes.  All I did was sync he watch and everything seemed to work. 
I’m able to place and receive calls.  What have you tried and what issue 
/ symptoms do you see with the watch?



On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Ricardo Walker  
wrote:


Hello everyone,

I’m trying to get wifi calling to work on my Apple watch and having no 
luck. It works just fine on my Macbook, Mac mini, and iPad but not on 
the watch.


Has anyone else been able to get this to work? Especially those on the 
T-mobile network.


Thanks.

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Re: iphone 5s question

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Thanks
> On Dec 27, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> You can completely erase the phone without losing anything from the cloud by 
> going to Settings, General, Reset, and choosing Erase Content and Settings.  
> If you have Find My iPhone on, you’ll be prompted to type the password to 
> turn it off.  Then your phone will be wiped and you can give it to your 
> mother.
> 
> The cloud doesn’t store everything on the phone.  Even iCloud only stores 
> your settings and camera role.  The content on your phone, including all your 
> apps, must already be available on your account; if you sync with iTunes, you 
> have to have that library to put whatever content you got from outside of 
> Apple back on your phone.  I therefore recommend you connect your phone to 
> iTunes one last time, if you are using iTunes at all, and transfer your 
> purchases, and run an encrypted backup.  In this way, you can easily restore 
> your new phone, without needing iCloud, if need be.
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Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch

[Ricardo Walker]

Yup,

Exactly. In the United States, T-mobile, Sprint and AT&T now support wifi 
calling. Thats why I’m confused that it works on all my other apple devices but 
not the watch.

Thanks.
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Brent Harding  wrote:
> 
> I think this is another one of those features that has to be supported by the 
> carrier. When I first got my watch, Sprint did not have it, so if the phone 
> was on Wifi calling, the watch would simply not ring at all. If I was away 
> and the phone was on cellular, the watch did ring. Now that Sprint enabled 
> this feature, it works on both. I thought this phone calling through the 
> watch was over bluetooth, but I guess it is a direct connection to the 
> carrier you have.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: wifi calling on Apple Watch
> 
> 
> So I’m seeing the lack of watch listed under other devices as well, I just 
> tried this.
> 
> I am not in range of a WiFi network that the watch could join though.  When I 
> get home this evening I will give t his a more detailed try and see if I see 
> something different.  I’m thinking I may have the same issue though but I 
> will confirm.
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>> So, I turned on wifi calling on my iPhone, and have enabled other devices to 
>> use wifi calling.  In the watch app, I have wifi calling enabled as well. So 
>> I turn off my phone, and attempt to make a call via my watch. The call fails 
>> every time. Same when making a call to my cell number. my iPad rings, my Mac 
>> rings, but the watch stays silent. The watch does indeed have a wifi 
>> connection, I double checked that.
>> 
>> I have notice on my iPhone under settings/phone/calls on other devices, my 
>> apple watch does not show up in this list.
>>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes and Yes.  All I did was sync he watch and everything seemed to work. 
>>> I’m able to place and receive calls.  What have you tried and what issue / 
>>> symptoms do you see with the watch?
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I’m trying to get wifi calling to work on my Apple watch and having no 
 luck. It works just fine on my Macbook, Mac mini, and iPad but not on the 
 watch.
 
 Has anyone else been able to get this to work? Especially those on the 
 T-mobile network.
 
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Re: Router recomendations?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Saving for the asus ac-rt3200.
Very pricey but has linux and open source firmware.
/A
> 28 dec. 2015 kl. 03:07 skrev Andrew Lamanche :
> 
> I, too, feel that my airport extreme provides very poor wifi throughout the 
> house which is not very big.  It is a dual band model and I 'm surprised that 
> it is so poor.  So i'm saving up to get a netgear router with AC capabilities 
> as my macbook pro is AC as well, and I shall use the Netgear d7000 as the 
> wireless point and airport extreme to extend my network.  
> 
> Andrew
>> On 27 Dec 2015, at 22:56, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I see a lot of people on the internet having an airport extreme and having 
>> big problems with it.
>> But i know to little about this so i wont state anything.
>> The only thing i know is that sometimes i get a very very low speed on my 
>> network.
>> However i have changed so in january i will get 100mbps instead of 8 mbps 
>> dsl.
>> /A
>>> 27 dec. 2015 kl. 01:13 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu :
>>> 
>>> I’m surprised to hear that AirPort is giving you trouble.  In my experience 
>>> they will do upwards of 200 Mb/s.  Do you have a connection faster than 
>>> this?
>>> 
>>> Nowadays, because AirPort has a poor PPPoE implementation that doesn’t do 
>>> baby jumbo frames or native IPv6, I use my own Linux-powered router (a Mac 
>>> Mini, in fact).  AirPort is now used just for providing wireless bridging.  
>>> However, if I were still on cable, I’m pretty sure I’d still be using 
>>> AirPort for everything.  If you want to know who I’d recommend instead of 
>>> Apple, I’m afraid the answer is that, in spite of all the evident need, the 
>>> market just doesn’t seem to provide any equipment—even top-end 
>>> equipment—that doesn’t suck as a consumer router, is some capacity or 
>>> other.  But, at a pinch, Draytek do very good work, with a nice feature 
>>> set, albeit with the typically incomprehensible documentation in broken 
>>> English.
>>> 
>>> Since you mentioned Raspberry Pi, consider all the options involving a 
>>> machine with two NICs (one of which may be external), such as PFSense.  It 
>>> would also be possible to use a Mac in this capacity, although I’d think 
>>> hard before dedicating a machine to such a task.  The idea here is that you 
>>> run the software necessary to perform the firewall function.  If you are up 
>>> to this, you will need to get your hands a bit dirty.
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Re: Router recomendations?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok, sounds like i have problems with my internet connection then.
However i have had mistakes about it so i have changed to a 100 mbit cable 
instead.
It was a bit hard to believe one person on a nother list mentioning that 
airport extreme was so bad.
/A
> 28 dec. 2015 kl. 01:12 skrev Mike Arrigo :
> 
> I've had an airport extreme now for about a month, working great, no problems 
> at all. I don't use a VPN or any of that, so the fact that the router does 
> not have some of the advanced features that other routers do is fine, I just 
> want good performance and it provides that.
>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I see a lot of people on the internet having an airport extreme and having 
>> big problems with it.
>> But i know to little about this so i wont state anything.
>> The only thing i know is that sometimes i get a very very low speed on my 
>> network.
>> However i have changed so in january i will get 100mbps instead of 8 mbps 
>> dsl.
>> /A
>>> 27 dec. 2015 kl. 01:13 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu :
>>> 
>>> I’m surprised to hear that AirPort is giving you trouble.  In my experience 
>>> they will do upwards of 200 Mb/s.  Do you have a connection faster than 
>>> this?
>>> 
>>> Nowadays, because AirPort has a poor PPPoE implementation that doesn’t do 
>>> baby jumbo frames or native IPv6, I use my own Linux-powered router (a Mac 
>>> Mini, in fact).  AirPort is now used just for providing wireless bridging.  
>>> However, if I were still on cable, I’m pretty sure I’d still be using 
>>> AirPort for everything.  If you want to know who I’d recommend instead of 
>>> Apple, I’m afraid the answer is that, in spite of all the evident need, the 
>>> market just doesn’t seem to provide any equipment—even top-end 
>>> equipment—that doesn’t suck as a consumer router, is some capacity or 
>>> other.  But, at a pinch, Draytek do very good work, with a nice feature 
>>> set, albeit with the typically incomprehensible documentation in broken 
>>> English.
>>> 
>>> Since you mentioned Raspberry Pi, consider all the options involving a 
>>> machine with two NICs (one of which may be external), such as PFSense.  It 
>>> would also be possible to use a Mac in this capacity, although I’d think 
>>> hard before dedicating a machine to such a task.  The idea here is that you 
>>> run the software necessary to perform the firewall function.  If you are up 
>>> to this, you will need to get your hands a bit dirty.
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Re: Router recomendations?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Now when answering your message its a dsl modem with router built-in.
I have that as a nat and use the airport extreme as a bridge.
Maybe i should try to reverse the setting so that my modem is a bridge and my 
airport is a nat.
But how will i go with my other airport base stations i have?
I have two airport express.
Do i have to set them up to or will they automatically join the network?
Also thanks for your encouragement to do some testing through all options.
One question though.
I have a macbook which does not use an ethernet port.
If i buy a thunderbolt to ethernet adaptor would this in any case decrease the 
speed?
Thanks.
/A
> 28 dec. 2015 kl. 05:37 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu :
> 
> Anything is possible, of course.  It may indeed be the case that your 
> particular router or combination or radio environment is not supporting the 
> speeds you require.
> 
> But before you go blaming a particular piece of equipment, test it.  Start 
> from your broadband connection.  Plug your computer into the modem, restart 
> computer and modem, and run a speed test on the computer.
> 
> Then rewire your router, and test that, using Ethernet.  Plug your computer 
> into an Ethernet port of your router, and do a speed test.
> 
> And finally use Wi-Fi.  You can use an iPhone if you like; just make sure 
> that your router and device support the latest Wi-Fi standard common to both, 
> i.e. AC for AirPort Extreme.
> 
> At what point does the speed become noticeably worse?
> 
> Now you know, and you can start to figure out where the problem is.
> 
> What is the nature of your broadband connection.  How is it delivered to you. 
>  Are you given a modem, or a router?  Some routers, especially cable routers, 
> start out life as NAT boxes, but can be put into “Modem mode”.  You should do 
> this, and let AirPort handle the NAT.
> 
> How about address assignment?  Do you use DHCP, or PPPoE?  AirPort is not so 
> great for PPPoE, although it does work.  There will be a loss of performance 
> compared to other gateways, however.  DHCP is usually the more common to 
> cable; PPPoE is for DSL/VDSL/FTTP/FTTC.
> 
> The story is rather different with classical DSL, unfortunately.  Because of 
> ancient history and incompetence, fuelled as it was by people whose only 
> object was the making of money, many DSL routers are sufficiently specific to 
> a provider as to be irreplaceable.  Others cannot help but function as IP 
> routers rather than as bridging modems.  Now you will have to go the other 
> way around: tell AirPort to bridge, and use your modem as the router.  All 
> bets are off as to the exact performance characteristics you will get, but 
> once again the only way to know for sure where the blame lies is to test.
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Re: Router recomendations?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok. thanks for that.
I may investigate in an asus router.
We’ll see what happen here.
I can get vpn for 40 swedish cronnas here monthly and thats not expensive i 
think.
Its like 4 US dollars.
/A
> 28 dec. 2015 kl. 13:54 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> Wow, I would have thought the Apple Airport Extreme would have more than 
> handled that.
> 
> I’d say DLink DIR-895, Netgear Nighthawk X8 8500 MikroTik or some of the 
> newer Asus models.  Nether and DLink I have hands on experience with.
> 
> On the professional side you might look at some of the Ubiquiti stuff like 
> their air routers and if you need high end wireless for low money their Unifi 
> access points are quite good.  
> 
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 100mbps.
>> /A
>>> 26 dec. 2015 kl. 18:54 skrev Scott Granados :
>>> 
>>> What speed internet connection do yu have.  Give me an idea of what you’re 
>>> using for a service and I’ll be glad to provide some suggestions.  The 
>>> speed helps me figure the price point.  Slower services require less 
>>> forwarding horsepower.
 On Dec 26, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Anders Holmberg  
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Since i’ve found out that my airport extreme is a bottleneck in my network 
 i’ve digged the whole net for sollutions.
 The only sollution i’ve found out is  to buy a better router that supports 
 vpn clients.
 I’ve seen people recomending asus routers but they seem a bit pricey.
 What i want is a router that’s easy to use and setup.
 I was thinking of building one with my raspberry pi but i think i don’t 
 because i don’t know much about routers and networking.
 Any help is highly appreciated.
 Thanks in advance.
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Best configuration for new mac?

[Bill Holton]

Hi.
I am scanning Apple's refurb shop for a new mini.  I use Fusion in Windows 7
or 10 with Window-eyes most of my work day.  Question:  Am I better off
getting a 2.7gh processor with a fusion drive and 16 gig of memory, or a
2.3gh processor, 16 gig of memory and an SD drive?
Minis only seem to come in dual core.  Is there a large spped jump on a
macbook Pro with a quadcore processor whereyou can devote two cores to mac
and Windows?
Thanks for any advice.
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Re: Router recomendations?

[John Weir]

I have used the extreme as the base station and the express as relay and 
they work fine.  IF your base is set up the express will automatically 
join the network, it may ask for advice if you have several networks.  John

On 12/28/15 2:46 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Now when answering your message its a dsl modem with router built-in.
I have that as a nat and use the airport extreme as a bridge.
Maybe i should try to reverse the setting so that my modem is a bridge and my 
airport is a nat.
But how will i go with my other airport base stations i have?
I have two airport express.
Do i have to set them up to or will they automatically join the network?
Also thanks for your encouragement to do some testing through all options.
One question though.
I have a macbook which does not use an ethernet port.
If i buy a thunderbolt to ethernet adaptor would this in any case decrease the 
speed?
Thanks.
/A

28 dec. 2015 kl. 05:37 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu :

Anything is possible, of course.  It may indeed be the case that your 
particular router or combination or radio environment is not supporting the 
speeds you require.

But before you go blaming a particular piece of equipment, test it.  Start from 
your broadband connection.  Plug your computer into the modem, restart computer 
and modem, and run a speed test on the computer.

Then rewire your router, and test that, using Ethernet.  Plug your computer 
into an Ethernet port of your router, and do a speed test.

And finally use Wi-Fi.  You can use an iPhone if you like; just make sure that 
your router and device support the latest Wi-Fi standard common to both, i.e. 
AC for AirPort Extreme.

At what point does the speed become noticeably worse?

Now you know, and you can start to figure out where the problem is.

What is the nature of your broadband connection.  How is it delivered to you.  
Are you given a modem, or a router?  Some routers, especially cable routers, 
start out life as NAT boxes, but can be put into “Modem mode”.  You should do 
this, and let AirPort handle the NAT.

How about address assignment?  Do you use DHCP, or PPPoE?  AirPort is not so 
great for PPPoE, although it does work.  There will be a loss of performance 
compared to other gateways, however.  DHCP is usually the more common to cable; 
PPPoE is for DSL/VDSL/FTTP/FTTC.

The story is rather different with classical DSL, unfortunately.  Because of 
ancient history and incompetence, fuelled as it was by people whose only object 
was the making of money, many DSL routers are sufficiently specific to a 
provider as to be irreplaceable.  Others cannot help but function as IP routers 
rather than as bridging modems.  Now you will have to go the other way around: 
tell AirPort to bridge, and use your modem as the router.  All bets are off as 
to the exact performance characteristics you will get, but once again the only 
way to know for sure where the blame lies is to test.

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Re: Best configuration for new mac?

[jeff `greene]

Hi Bill,
I'd always go for an SSD drive, they make an amazing difference. The
experts say there's not a lot of difference between dual and quad core
processors. The only time a big difference shows up is if you use
something advanced like photoshop that can use multiple processor
threads. There is more and more software that can take advantage of
multiple processor threads, but I've never really noticed much of a
difference. For example, I have a 2012 quad-core macbook pro that I
run windows 7 on, and an Asus 13.3-inch ultrabook that runs a dual
core processor. The macbook pro is 2.3ghz up to 3.3ghz, the Asus is
2.8ghz up to 3.5ghz. And running System Access from serotek as my
speach program I don't notice much difference.
Hope this helps! Jeff


On 12/28/15, Bill Holton  wrote:
> Hi.
> I am scanning Apple's refurb shop for a new mini.  I use Fusion in Windows
> 7
> or 10 with Window-eyes most of my work day.  Question:  Am I better off
> getting a 2.7gh processor with a fusion drive and 16 gig of memory, or a
> 2.3gh processor, 16 gig of memory and an SD drive?
> Minis only seem to come in dual core.  Is there a large spped jump on a
> macbook Pro with a quadcore processor whereyou can devote two cores to mac
> and Windows?
> Thanks for any advice.
> Bill
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RE: Best configuration for new mac?

[Bill Holton]

thanks.  So it looks like after memory, priorities are SSD, Processor speed, 
then number of cores.  I thought devoting two cores to windows and two to Mac 
would make each run faster, but apparently that is not your experience?


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Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?

Hi Bill,
I'd always go for an SSD drive, they make an amazing difference. The
experts say there's not a lot of difference between dual and quad core
processors. The only time a big difference shows up is if you use
something advanced like photoshop that can use multiple processor
threads. There is more and more software that can take advantage of
multiple processor threads, but I've never really noticed much of a
difference. For example, I have a 2012 quad-core macbook pro that I
run windows 7 on, and an Asus 13.3-inch ultrabook that runs a dual
core processor. The macbook pro is 2.3ghz up to 3.3ghz, the Asus is
2.8ghz up to 3.5ghz. And running System Access from serotek as my
speach program I don't notice much difference.
Hope this helps! Jeff


On 12/28/15, Bill Holton  wrote:
> Hi.
> I am scanning Apple's refurb shop for a new mini.  I use Fusion in Windows
> 7
> or 10 with Window-eyes most of my work day.  Question:  Am I better off
> getting a 2.7gh processor with a fusion drive and 16 gig of memory, or a
> 2.3gh processor, 16 gig of memory and an SD drive?
> Minis only seem to come in dual core.  Is there a large spped jump on a
> macbook Pro with a quadcore processor whereyou can devote two cores to mac
> and Windows?
> Thanks for any advice.
> Bill
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Re: Best configuration for new mac?

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

jeff `greene  wrote:
> I'd always go for an SSD drive, they make an amazing difference. 


Indeed they do, and the prices are improving.

My Macbook Pro isn't much faster in terms of clock speed than my old laptop.
(Granted, the CPU is 6 years newer or thereabouts, so it's definitely faster.)
However, I would attribute most of the performance difference between the two
machines to the SSD, which is extraordinarily fast on the recent MacBook Pro
models.

The older laptop is running Linux, so the operating systems are at least
somewhat similar, but it's the hard drive that really slows down this machine
(I'm using it to write this message).

Buy an SSD if you can. If you can't afford one, or if you need more storage,
there are hybrid drives that contain a small SSD for fast storage and a slow,
conventional hard disk that provides storage of much higher capacity. The
drive automatically moves frequently accessed data to the flash storage for
rapid access. It isn't as good as an SSD, but it's still better than a
traditional hard drive.

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More questions RE: Best configuration for new mac?

[Bill Holton]

I currently have a 128 gig external SSD that uses a thunderbolt connection.  I 
have el Cap installed onto the drive, and my VM locdated there, too.  Will an 
internal SSD give me much more speed?

Also, I thought this was something to do with VM Fusion, but it also happens 
when I am not in my virtual machine.  Every so often I will get the VM Fusion 
busy, busy message.  If I am just running Safari, Safari busy, busy.  I did 
notice that when this happens a few of the process go to 200%.  One of them is 
LSD, easy to remember, I cannot remember the other one right now.  Is this 
something I can diagnose and fix?  Thanks.
Bill


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On Behalf Of jeff `greene
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 4:24 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best configuration for new mac?

Hi Bill,
I'd always go for an SSD drive, they make an amazing difference. The
experts say there's not a lot of difference between dual and quad core
processors. The only time a big difference shows up is if you use
something advanced like photoshop that can use multiple processor
threads. There is more and more software that can take advantage of
multiple processor threads, but I've never really noticed much of a
difference. For example, I have a 2012 quad-core macbook pro that I
run windows 7 on, and an Asus 13.3-inch ultrabook that runs a dual
core processor. The macbook pro is 2.3ghz up to 3.3ghz, the Asus is
2.8ghz up to 3.5ghz. And running System Access from serotek as my
speach program I don't notice much difference.
Hope this helps! Jeff


On 12/28/15, Bill Holton  wrote:
> Hi.
> I am scanning Apple's refurb shop for a new mini.  I use Fusion in Windows
> 7
> or 10 with Window-eyes most of my work day.  Question:  Am I better off
> getting a 2.7gh processor with a fusion drive and 16 gig of memory, or a
> 2.3gh processor, 16 gig of memory and an SD drive?
> Minis only seem to come in dual core.  Is there a large spped jump on a
> macbook Pro with a quadcore processor whereyou can devote two cores to mac
> and Windows?
> Thanks for any advice.
> Bill
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about Skype

[Rebecca Sabo]

Dear all,
Some reason my Skype on my mack keeps saying it is busy all the time .  Is 
there something to fix it ?  Also some times I do not hear it ring .
Becky 

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Getting to the dock

[Marie Lyons]

I can no longer get to the dock using v/o D.  Is there another way of getting 
there?  Does anyone have any ideas on why this is happening?

Marie Lyons

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RE: Getting to the dock

[george b]

You can because it is control option d  not v o d

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Subject: Getting to the dock

I can no longer get to the dock using v/o D.  Is there another way of getting 
there?  Does anyone have any ideas on why this is happening?

Marie Lyons

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Re: Getting to the dock

[Grant]

Hi George,

The VO KEYS are CONTROL+OPTION, and/or CAPS LOCK if you’re running El Capitan. 
So writing VO D is likely an abbreviation, meaning she is pressing D while 
holding down her VoiceOver modifier keys.

As for the original question, it’s difficult to say what may be going on here. 
What happens if you press VO+K to turn on keyboard help, then press VO+D to 
hear the description of the command?

Cheers,

Grant

> On Dec 28, 2015, at 2:53 PM, george b  wrote:
> 
> You can because it is control option d  not v o d
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 14:41
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Getting to the dock
> 
> I can no longer get to the dock using v/o D.  Is there another way of getting 
> there?  Does anyone have any ideas on why this is happening?
> 
> Marie Lyons

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Re: Best configuration for new mac?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

I really believe that multicore performance is a good thing to have when doing 
virtualisation.  No two ways around it: the latest Mac Mini is a downgrade from 
its predecessor, because of the dual-core processors.  Sure, they’re newer 
family chips, but they are still slower.  Worse yet, RAM is not upgradable, and 
storage is not upgradable without substantial (and very careful) disassembly.  
I have no doubt that Apple are, if not intentionally doing it, at least glad 
that the Mini will no longer threaten their Mac Pros or iMacs, both of which 
now present alternative options.  The Mac Mini is such an attractive machine, 
and I too have been recently eyeing them up hungrily for their lovely SSD 
performance and small form factor, but I just can’t bring myself to buy a 
downgraded machine for any purpose other than the one for which my current 
dual-core Mini is serving (a simple caching server).  Indeed, my previous 2010 
Mini could be upgraded `if I chose: both RAM and SSD would bring it up to par 
with the best Mac Mini, if you discount the slight clock speed boost (2.6 to 
3.0), the change in processor family and the addition of an optical drive.  Of 
course, as you said, you could also investigate quad-core options in laptops as 
well, and get out of the dual-core league entirely.  But if you must buy a 
Mini, get a maximally configured Mini, so as to save long-term on your 
investment: 1 TB SSD, 16 GB RAM, 3.0 GHz I7 dual-core.  This configuration will 
let you down a bit in the virtualisation department, but will make up for it in 
general use.

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Re: Programmatically make VoiceOver speak on OSX

[Vic]

Hey Tyler.
Does the NSAccessibilityPostNotificationWithUserInfo call still works for 
you under El Capitan? After installing 10.11 this suddenly broke for me.
Are you noticing the same?


On Monday, July 21, 2014 at 5:15:05 AM UTC-7, anders wrote:
>
> Hi!
> What does this do really?
> I don't understand.
> /A
> 20 jul 2014 kl. 23:49 skrev Alex Hall >:
>
> This looks like what I've been searching for for a while now, thanks for 
> sharing! What is the second parameter, though? Can it be nil,or does it 
> need to be some NSView object or subclass? Also, in your demo, why provide 
> the string "Hi" instead of using the string that was passed n? I just want 
> to be sure I understand the process. Thanks again.
> On Jul 20, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Tyler Thompson  > wrote:
>
> Hello, this is a tidbit for those of you interested in developing for OSX,
>
> I have dug through tons of documentation on VoiceOver accessibility and 
> submitted several support tickets to apple for assistance and I finally 
> wrote this function I thought I’d share with everybody:
>
> -(void)speakString:(NSString *)stringToSpeak 
> fromFocusedUIElement:(id)object
> {
> NSDictionary *announcementInfo = [[NSDictionary alloc] 
> initWithObjectsAndKeys:stringToSpeak, NSAccessibilityAnnouncementKey, 
> @“High", NSAccessibilityPriorityKey, nil];
> NSAccessibilityPostNotificationWithUserInfo(object, 
> NSAccessibilityAnnouncementRequestedNotification, announcementInfo);
> }
>
> This could easily be expanded on, for instance we could include in this 
> function a way to tell the object that currently has keyboard focus to 
> assure that VoiceOver always speaks the string as opposed to you having to 
> figure it out. We could also add a NSAccessibilityLayoutChanged 
> notification to refresh the braille display (Although in some very bizarre 
> cases this causes VoiceOver to speak twice (once with the announcement, 
> once for the layout change). In other cases the announcement interrupts the 
> layout change notification or visa versa, I have yet to figure that bit 
> out. 
>
> However I felt like this code snippet could do some people good, so there 
> it is.
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Re: messages app not connecting to Facebook anymore.

[Kevin Chao]

Most likely FaceBook depricated XMPP support, so they have greater control
of Messenger interface, experience, analytics, tracking, and FB can better
advertise. I read somewhere that even if you were in the middle of
composing a message and erased it, machine learning went into those bits to
add to create a better model of your habits for FB
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 7:00 AM Jessica Moss 
wrote:

> I have, and added my facebook account, but when I launch trillian, it just
> continues to say "trillian has no windows," and can't figure out how to
> access it," and everything else is still dimmed.
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 3:37 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>
> > Did you create a Trillian account? You can't add accounts until you
> perform this step.
> >
> > Shawn
> > Sent From My White MacBook
> > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> >
> >> On Dec 27, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Jessica Moss 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, I've just installed it but can't figure out how to add accounts,
> how in the world do you do this?
> >> On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Shawn Krasniuk 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey guys. I haven't been paying attention to this thread up until now,
> but have you tried using Trillian for Facebook? It's free and very
> accessible.
> >>>
> >>> Shawn
> >>> Sent From My White MacBook
> >>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> >>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> >>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> >>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> >>>
>  On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Jessica Moss 
> wrote:
> 
>  I don't get why they would do that; it's not like we're doing
> anything illegal by using the mac's 3rd party app to connect to them, so
> what's the problem?
>  On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Grant  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Matthew,
> >
> > Yep, it appears that we won’t be able to use Facebook Chat from
> within the Messages App as XMPP support is being deprecated. I finally
> removed my account the other day. This is extremely unfortunate as it is by
> far the most accessible experience I’ve ever found for chatting with
> Facebook friends, on any platform.
> >
> >> On Dec 27, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Matthew Dyer <
> ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi  all.
> >>
> >> I think this has to do with face book shuting dow the 3rd party
> api  which allows app t9o connect with the facebook service.  HTH.
> >>
> >> Matthew
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Re: messages app not connecting to Facebook anymore.

[Jessica Moss]

So can we not connect to 3rd-party anything now?  That's ridiculous.
On Dec 28, 2015, at 8:51 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:

> Most likely FaceBook depricated XMPP support, so they have greater control of 
> Messenger interface, experience, analytics, tracking, and FB can better 
> advertise. I read somewhere that even if you were in the middle of composing 
> a message and erased it, machine learning went into those bits to add to 
> create a better model of your habits for FB 
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 7:00 AM Jessica Moss  
> wrote:
> I have, and added my facebook account, but when I launch trillian, it just 
> continues to say "trillian has no windows," and can't figure out how to 
> access it," and everything else is still dimmed.
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 3:37 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> > Did you create a Trillian account? You can't add accounts until you perform 
> > this step.
> >
> > Shawn
> > Sent From My White MacBook
> > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> >
> >> On Dec 27, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Jessica Moss  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, I've just installed it but can't figure out how to add accounts, how 
> >> in the world do you do this?
> >> On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey guys. I haven't been paying attention to this thread up until now, 
> >>> but have you tried using Trillian for Facebook? It's free and very 
> >>> accessible.
> >>>
> >>> Shawn
> >>> Sent From My White MacBook
> >>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> >>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> >>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> >>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> >>>
>  On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Jessica Moss  
>  wrote:
> 
>  I don't get why they would do that; it's not like we're doing anything 
>  illegal by using the mac's 3rd party app to connect to them, so what's 
>  the problem?
>  On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Grant  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Matthew,
> >
> > Yep, it appears that we won’t be able to use Facebook Chat from within 
> > the Messages App as XMPP support is being deprecated. I finally removed 
> > my account the other day. This is extremely unfortunate as it is by far 
> > the most accessible experience I’ve ever found for chatting with 
> > Facebook friends, on any platform.
> >
> >> On Dec 27, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Matthew Dyer 
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi  all.
> >>
> >> I think this has to do with face book shuting dow the 3rd party api  
> >> which allows app t9o connect with the facebook service.  HTH.
> >>
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Re: Router recomendations?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Hi Anders,

Long message ahead.  I have replied inline for clarity.

On 28 Dec 2015, at 20:46, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Now when answering your message its a dsl modem with router built-in.
> I have that as a nat and use the airport extreme as a bridge.
> Maybe i should try to reverse the setting so that my modem is a bridge and my 
> airport is a nat.

Yeah, if you can.  Lets AirPort handle your public IP address, NAT, port 
forwarding, and all that.  However, maybe not the best option if your DSL modem 
is actually a better router because it handles your DSL connection at full 
frame sizes, without PPPoE overhead.  In my experience though, most ISP routers 
are horribly outperformed by hardware you get yourself, including AirPort.  It 
may even not be possible, for example PPPoA generally cannot be bridged without 
special hardware, forcing you to use your “Modem” as your NAT router.  You will 
need to investigate your options.  If you don’t mind, buy another modem; I 
recommend Draytek v130.  This will in fact bridge PPPoA, and pass PPP directly 
through to AirPort as PPPoE.  Now put your username/password into AirPort, and 
get a very nice, reliable setup, entirely controlled by AirPort.  This is a 
great way to turn any legacy DSL connection into Ethernet, and make AirPort 
work with any connection type.  These babies even support baby jumbo, so if you 
ever get an alternative router to AirPort that knows how to handle large 
packets, it need only support an Ethernet port to give you the full capacity of 
your DSL/VDSL connection.  I use one now; they’re very sweet.

> But how will i go with my other airport base stations i have?
> I have two airport express.
> Do i have to set them up to or will they automatically join the network?

Tell them to “Join” your existing network.  You can do this during the initial 
setup process; zap them with AirPort Utility to factory settings and you’ll be 
asked how to configure them.  “Joining” an AirPort network will see your 
Express configured as a WDS replicator.  You can then use the Ethernet ports on 
your Express to attach devices to your network, in addition of course to using 
it as a wireless extender and, optionally, AirPlay receiver and print server.  
Being able to wirelessly connect ethernet-equipped devices to your network is 
way cool. :)

There is an important catch I think you should understand, though.  Your 
wireless devices connected by way of the receiver are only capable of “N” 
speeds.  Moreover, only half of “N” speeds, theoretically.  Your bandwidth is 
chopped into half because the signal is now taking two hops, and the Express is 
not yet an AC-capable device.  A hidden preference, accessible only with the 
older AirPort Utility 5.6 available for Windows, can fix it so wireless clients 
do not associate with your Express devices, but this would of course render 
them rather useless as wireless extenders; they will then only be Ethernet 
extenders.  If you are finding that your speeds are particularly poor because 
of your Express extenders, and you really need your extenders to get the 
desired coverage, and you have no other means to wire your AirPort units 
together (Ethernet, HomePlug, etc), and perhaps because they are often 
providing the best signal at any given time, then I can only suggest you tell 
your Extreme to broadcast separate SSIDs for 2.4 and 5 GHz bands, and connect 
only your most critical high-throughput devices to the Extreme on 5 GHz, 
leaving the remainder behind on 2.4 GHz at “N” speeds, extended by your AirPort 
Express, and ensuring that your speed-critical devices are never dragged down 
to “N” speeds.  It’s either that, or get more AirPort Extremes as extenders to 
push out your AC network.

> I have a macbook which does not use an ethernet port.
> If i buy a thunderbolt to ethernet adaptor would this in any case decrease 
> the speed?

The Thunderbolt to Ethernet adaptor is not as high-performance as one might 
hope, but it will, in most cases, smash the performance of any wireless 
networks, including AC networks.  It’s always preferable to wireless just for 
reliability.  AC is supposed to be able to reach close to gigabit speed, but it 
is a rare thing indeed, if for no other reason than that most devices don’t 
have the radios for it.

You can configure wired and wireless connections on the same Mac.  OS X uses 
the correct one.  Plug in when you can.

There were a few reports of specific brands of modems not negotiating the 
correct speed with AirPort.  These should be very rare and are abnormal.  
AirPort Extreme has a gigabit port on the outside, and gigabit ports on the 
inside.  Cable should not give you any trouble.  I can confirm that you should 
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Re: Odd Navigation Results with Web Page under OS X 10.10.5

[Craig Werner]

Thank you, Sabahattin, for your thoughtful reply.  I checked and
unchecked the "Group items within" checkbox under the "VoiceOver
Utility -> Web -> Navigation -> Navigating Web Tables" item, and the
little table was still locked.  That is, pressing "VO-left" and
"VO-right" produced no results.  As I said, pressing the "Tab" key
gave access to all sorts of links and other form controls.  I am going
to subscribe to your theory of the misbehaving  table  and hope that
when I upgrade to El Capitan, something I am reluctant to do right
now, that the problem will go away.  I may try updating to the latest
version of Safari; I am currently running Version 8.0.8.  I should add
something that you already probably have guessed: the page can be
easily navigated under iOS 9.2.  I am easily resisting the temptation
to turn my Mac into a Windows machine to test this page because I am a
new user and because this page is the only one I have found that
behaves in this peculiar way.

Craig

On 12/27/15, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> I hate to say it, but I think you’re looking at a persistent VoiceOver bug.
> I too encounter pages where elements are concealed within layout tables,
> which VO will then either skip or otherwise make it difficult to navigate,
> and I have not yet found a workaround beyond starting a Windows virtual
> machine or using iOS.
>
> You might try turning off “Group items within when navigating web tables” in
> VO utility under the Web category.  This will turn tables into interactable
> elements, rather than leaving them flat against the rest of the web page.
> You may possibly then find that your stuck table is navigable.  Hopefully.
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Re: Getting to the dock

[Marie Lyons]

I Thought that control option was abbreviated as the voiceover command.  Anyway 
that is what I’m doing and it no longer works.

Marie Lyons
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 5:53 PM, george b  wrote:
> 
> You can because it is control option d  not v o d
> 
> -Original Message-
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> I can no longer get to the dock using v/o D.  Is there another way of getting 
> there?  Does anyone have any ideas on why this is happening?
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Re: Getting to the dock

[Marie Lyons]

It doesn’t say anything.  I get the tone that tells me when a command isn’t 
available.

Marie Lyons
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Grant  wrote:
> 
> Hi George,
> 
> The VO KEYS are CONTROL+OPTION, and/or CAPS LOCK if you’re running El 
> Capitan. So writing VO D is likely an abbreviation, meaning she is pressing D 
> while holding down her VoiceOver modifier keys.
> 
> As for the original question, it’s difficult to say what may be going on 
> here. What happens if you press VO+K to turn on keyboard help, then press 
> VO+D to hear the description of the command?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Grant
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 2:53 PM, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> You can because it is control option d  not v o d
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 14:41
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Getting to the dock
>> 
>> I can no longer get to the dock using v/o D.  Is there another way of 
>> getting there?  Does anyone have any ideas on why this is happening?
>> 
>> Marie Lyons
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having issues adding short cut key

[Raymond Foret Jr]

When I try to add a short cut for Add Sender to Contacts, it doesn't seem to 
work.  Here's what I'm doing.

1.  Go in to Mail menus and examine how "Add Sender to Contacts" is written 
exatly.

2.  Open System preferences.

3.  Click on Keyboard and then click on Short cuts.
4.  Go down to the apps short cuts table item.

5.  Click add.

6.  Now, choose the mail app.

8.  Next, I type in "Add Sender to Contacts" without the quotes and exactly as 
shown.

9.  Now, I VO+right to where I press the key combination I want to use, say for 
example Shift+Command+a.  
10.  Next, I click add.  No matter what, though, I can't seem to check it.

Any advice?

Running 10.11.2




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Re: having issues adding short cut key

[Raymond Foret Jr]

Never mind.  Just solved it.  Thanks anyhow...

Sorry for the bother.

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> On Dec 28, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Raymond Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> When I try to add a short cut for Add Sender to Contacts, it doesn't seem to 
> work.  Here's what I'm doing.
> 
> 1.  Go in to Mail menus and examine how "Add Sender to Contacts" is written 
> exatly.
> 
> 2.  Open System preferences.
> 
> 3.  Click on Keyboard and then click on Short cuts.
> 4.  Go down to the apps short cuts table item.
> 
> 5.  Click add.
> 
> 6.  Now, choose the mail app.
> 
> 8.  Next, I type in "Add Sender to Contacts" without the quotes and exactly 
> as shown.
> 
> 9.  Now, I VO+right to where I press the key combination I want to use, say 
> for example Shift+Command+a.  
> 10.  Next, I click add.  No matter what, though, I can't seem to check it.
> 
> Any advice?
> 
> Running 10.11.2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> !
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
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Re: messages app not connecting to Facebook anymore.

[Shawn Krasniuk]

No you can still use Trillian to connect to Facebook. Try pressing 
command+slash. That should bring up the contacts window. If not, don't know 
what to tell you, but it works for me just fine.

Shawn
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> On Dec 28, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I have, and added my facebook account, but when I launch trillian, it just 
> continues to say "trillian has no windows," and can't figure out how to 
> access it," and everything else is still dimmed.
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 3:37 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
>> Did you create a Trillian account? You can't add accounts until you perform 
>> this step.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
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>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I've just installed it but can't figure out how to add accounts, how in 
>>> the world do you do this?
>>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey guys. I haven't been paying attention to this thread up until now, but 
 have you tried using Trillian for Facebook? It's free and very accessible.
 
 Shawn
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> On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Jessica Moss  
> wrote:
> 
> I don't get why they would do that; it's not like we're doing anything 
> illegal by using the mac's 3rd party app to connect to them, so what's 
> the problem?
> On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Grant  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Matthew,
>> 
>> Yep, it appears that we won’t be able to use Facebook Chat from within 
>> the Messages App as XMPP support is being deprecated. I finally removed 
>> my account the other day. This is extremely unfortunate as it is by far 
>> the most accessible experience I’ve ever found for chatting with 
>> Facebook friends, on any platform.
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Matthew Dyer 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi  all.
>>> 
>>> I think this has to do with face book shuting dow the 3rd party api  
>>> which allows app t9o connect with the facebook service.  HTH.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
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Trillian Has Broken Accessibility

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hey guys. I just updated Trillian and I found a big surprise. Accessibility is 
totally broken. Whenever I arrow up or down in the contact list, all Voiceover 
says is blank selected. How nice. I'm thinking of rolling back to an earlier 
version that I've backed up to time machine but my only problem with that is it 
will update automatically to this inaccessible version. My question to you all 
is after I do this, can I turn off automatic updates for certain apps or do I 
have to choose if things update automatically or not? Thanks.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

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Re: Trillian Has Broken Accessibility

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Oh, cute!  Another dev who thinks eye candy is the key.  How nauice!

Not?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 

To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:22 AM
Subject: Trillian Has Broken Accessibility


Hey guys. I just updated Trillian and I found a big surprise. Accessibility 
is totally broken. Whenever I arrow up or down in the contact list, all 
Voiceover says is blank selected. How nice. I'm thinking of rolling back to 
an earlier version that I've backed up to time machine but my only problem 
with that is it will update automatically to this inaccessible version. My 
question to you all is after I do this, can I turn off automatic updates for 
certain apps or do I have to choose if things update automatically or not? 
Thanks.


Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

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trillian

[Walter Harper]

Hello all,
I am trying out trillian on the mac for the first time.  I got my Facebook 
account added.  The problem is when I interact with the table but he was over 
is not telling me the list of contacts it just keep saying blank.

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Re: trillian

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Did you not just see Shawn's message?  They've apparently broken 
accessibility in the most recent update.


Real? cute, devs!

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Walter Harper" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:50 AM
Subject: trillian



Hello all,
I am trying out trillian on the mac for the first time.  I got my Facebook 
account added.  The problem is when I interact with the table but he was 
over is not telling me the list of contacts it just keep saying blank.


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