Re: time-machine problem

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Time Machine should work with a suitably configured NAS with a recent version 
of netatalk running.  It is not my preferred route—I’d much rather access the 
NAS directly over the network and have the NAS performing snapshots either to a 
RAID or an external cloud storage service—but it should work just fine.

My advice is to keep with a wired network if you wish to use Time Machine.  
Depending on the nature and robustness of your wireless network, it might 
simply be that you are regularly corrupting your sparse disk images by being 
disconnected all the time.  I’m still not entirely sure why Apple choose the 
sparse disk image format for network backups which are presumably attractive 
precisely because they are often free of wires, except that it might be 
convenient for the storage of all backup metadata.  It’s not at all robust 
though, so you need to ensure you have good connectivity to the NAS.  Of 
course, buying an Apple NAS that doubles as a wireless access point may or may 
not help with your particular network.

If you still wish to use wireless but don’t have the means to set up backups on 
the NAS itself, then check whether or not Arq from Haystack Software supports 
the protocols or cloud storage providers that your NAS has.  If, for example, 
your NAS has a built-in SFTP server, then you could use that to more reliably 
store hourly backups without continually needing to refresh your backup 
history.  The downside to this approach is that the backups are then only 
accessible with a copy of Arq installed on a Mac and an encryption password.

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Re: The Mac and Braille

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
You can’t compare nvda with cobra.
Cobra is meant to be used with a braille display and nvda is meant to use with 
a speech synthesizer.
Nvda has braille support and of course you can use that to read mail and write 
text with but you never gonna use that with more advanced features of windows.
Cobra is a very expensive screenreader.
I don’t know the price but i can look it up.
/A
> On 25 Nov 2015, at 21:46, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Never heard of it either. (smiles)  Do you know how much it is in US$? How 
> does Cobra compare to NVDA?
> 
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> On 11/25/2015 10:52 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> You haven’t tested cobra yet?
>> That windows screenreader really kicks jaws and window-eyes out.
>> They have the best braille output i’ve ever seen.
>> /A
>>> On 25 Nov 2015, at 12:11, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Pretty sure one of the developers Jamie if I remember correctly does 
>>> utalise a HumanWare Brailliant.
>>> 
>>> Braille on the Mac is horrible and that's giving it a kind word.
>>> 
>>> NVDA on Windows doesn't offer grade 1 or grade 2 entry. ( Believe there 
>>> getting around to this in 2016.14).
>>> 
>>> As much as it pains me to admit it JAWS probs has the best braille support 
>>> closely followed by Window-Eyes.
>>> 
>>> Might  be just me, but it seems iOS support has gotten a lot better at 
>>> least since the dark days of iOS 7.
>>> 
>>> At least input using the aforementioned Brailliant which I was lucky enough 
>>> to get through school is very snappy.
>>> 
>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>> 
>>> Bachelor of Business Information Systems
>>> 
>>> College of Business
>>> 
>>> RMIT University
>>> 
>>> On 11/25/2015 6:55 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
 No, braille on the Mac has always been a little bad. VDA on Windows isn't 
 much better though, I assure you, since the developers of NVDA don't even 
 use braille. Anyways, thanks for the tips.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> It used to be that you could press a router key on a Braille display to 
> bring focus to that cell. These days, pressing a router key performs the 
> default action for the item. I looked through all the VO commands and 
> couldn’t find any that would do what I wanted, but I discovered that 
> pressing a router key above a space, then pressing the combination for 
> either left or right arrow brings the focus to that point.
> 
> I’ve also found that the display shows the first line of a page when it 
> gets to the bottom of that page, and pressing the Down or Page Down 
> combination brings focus to the next page.
> 
> I’m working with a Braillino, so it may be different on other displays.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
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Re: The Mac and Braille

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I would if i had money.
Tired of speech you know.
/A
> On 26 Nov 2015, at 01:13, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Right. That was my thinking too.
> 
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> 
> On 11/25/2015 3:27 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
>> Shoot, no one wants to pay for another $800 screen reader that doesn't offer 
>> much that NVDA has.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Never heard of it either. (smiles)  Do you know how much it is in US$? 
>>> How does Cobra compare to NVDA?
>>> 
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 On 11/25/2015 10:52 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
 Hi!
 You haven’t tested cobra yet?
 That windows screenreader really kicks jaws and window-eyes out.
 They have the best braille output i’ve ever seen.
 /A
> On 25 Nov 2015, at 12:11, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Pretty sure one of the developers Jamie if I remember correctly does 
> utalise a HumanWare Brailliant.
> 
> Braille on the Mac is horrible and that's giving it a kind word.
> 
> NVDA on Windows doesn't offer grade 1 or grade 2 entry. ( Believe there 
> getting around to this in 2016.14).
> 
> As much as it pains me to admit it JAWS probs has the best braille 
> support closely followed by Window-Eyes.
> 
> Might  be just me, but it seems iOS support has gotten a lot better at 
> least since the dark days of iOS 7.
> 
> At least input using the aforementioned Brailliant which I was lucky 
> enough to get through school is very snappy.
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> Bachelor of Business Information Systems
> 
> College of Business
> 
> RMIT University
> 
>> On 11/25/2015 6:55 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
>> No, braille on the Mac has always been a little bad. VDA on Windows 
>> isn't much better though, I assure you, since the developers of NVDA 
>> don't even use braille. Anyways, thanks for the tips.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Anne Robertson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> It used to be that you could press a router key on a Braille display to 
>>> bring focus to that cell. These days, pressing a router key performs 
>>> the default action for the item. I looked through all the VO commands 
>>> and couldn’t find any that would do what I wanted, but I discovered 
>>> that pressing a router key above a space, then pressing the combination 
>>> for either left or right arrow brings the focus to that point.
>>> 
>>> I’ve also found that the display shows the first line of a page when it 
>>> gets to the bottom of that page, and pressing the Down or Page Down 
>>> combination brings focus to the next page.
>>> 
>>> I’m working with a Braillino, so it may be different on other displays.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
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Re: Annoying pitch change bug when using Vocaliser.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I would like to use espeak but as for now i use infovox and vocalizer.
I just found Oliver compact to be very snappy and good for my ears actually.
But this is ofcorse personal preference.
/A
> On 26 Nov 2015, at 16:56, Nicolai Svendsen  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Some responsiveness problems, although they only seem to occur when switching 
> applications. Give it about five seconds to sort itself out, and it becomes 
> very snappy again.
> 
> I haven't seen this with Infovox when it comes to typing, but I am in talks 
> with Acapela about some delays when announcing elements, etc.
> 
> Technically, you can get ETI on the Mac through Wine, but the implementation 
> leaves something to be desired and isn't very good. I'm sure you could 
> probably port it over properly if someone wanted to, but I'm not a huge fan 
> of that synthesizer beyond when playing games.
> 
> Nicolai
> 
> On 11/26/2015 12:20 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote:
>> What kind of issues? 
>> 
>> Noticed that some of the premium info box Ivox voices have a delay when 
>> typing. 
>> 
>> Heather in particular comes to mind. 
>> 
>> I just wish we could get the ETI synth on the Mac. 
>> 
>> Won’t happen any time soon. 
>> 
>> Yours truly, 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
>> Certificate IV International Trade 
>> 
>> College of Business 
>> 
>> RMIT University 
>> 
>> LinkedIn: 
>> 
>> https://au.linkedin.com/in/sadam-ahmed-04121258 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 26 Nov 2015, at 2:12 am, Nicolai Svendsen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> I personally haven't encountered this, but Vocalizer does suffer from some 
>>> other issues. I'm sure those will get addressed, as did the issue with the 
>>> quality four years later.
>>> 
>>> Nicolai
>>> 
>>> On 11/25/2015 9:42 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote:
 All, 
 
 To those of you running El Capitan have Apple fixed the really annoying 
 bug where Vocaliser voices would inexplicably change pitch?  
 
 I remember this was a bug they  introduced way back in Lion ( And for some 
 reason it was never delt with.) 
 
 Thanks for the indulgence. 
 
 Yours truly, 
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
 Certificate IV in International Trade 
 
 College of Business 
 
 RMIT University 
 
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Re: accessible braille translation software for the mac

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I don’t know if John Boyer still works on braille blaster.
But i guess the code is on the internet somewhere.
If you want i can dig it up for you.
/A
> On 26 Nov 2015, at 18:46, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> I hope they keep dragging their heals.  Personally, I want their brand of old 
> paradigm technology to fizzle.  But on the other hand, I've been yearning for 
> brailleblaster to make strides on the mac and it just simply hasn't done for 
> over a year and a half.  If I had the programming skills, I'd try to improve 
> it, but I don't have the wherewithall.
> 
> Hopefully some one will come along and iron out the kinks.
> 
> I'm not a fan of the new index solution either, but even complete on board 
> translation inside the embosser is a better fix to me than high priced 
> proprietary software.
> 
> I mean, it took duxbury 5 years or more to support microsoft word 2007 format 
> on it's windows product.  Mercy!
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> 
> 
>> On Nov 26, 2015, at 6:27 AM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Not to be a wet blanket, but I've heard that from Duxbury since 2012. I hope 
>> they do it, but I'm not sure I'd believe any time projections.
>>> On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:12 AM, Sadam Ahmed >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> At CSUN earlier in the year there was mention of Duxbury coming to the Mac. 
>>> 
>>> Yours truly, 
>>> 
>>> Sadam Ahmed 
>>> 
>>> Certificate IV International Trade 
>>> 
>>> College of Business 
>>> 
>>> RMIT University 
>>> 
>>> LinkedIn: 
>>> 
>>> https://au.linkedin.com/in/sadam-ahmed-04121258 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
 On 26 Nov 2015, at 12:50 am, Brian Howerton >>> > wrote:
 
 Duxbury
>>> 
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Re: accessible braille translation software for the mac

[Alex Hall]

Braille Blaster is written in Java, which makes sense for cross-platform 
compatibility. However, I don't know how--or if--one can work with Java to make 
a Mac project in Xcode. Plus, their site claims that 10.9.3 is the most 
recently tested OS X version, and Braille Blaster didn't work on it. Clearly, 
they've not tested for the Mac in a couple years.
http://www.brailleblaster.org
> On Nov 27, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I don’t know if John Boyer still works on braille blaster.
> But i guess the code is on the internet somewhere.
> If you want i can dig it up for you.
> /A
>> On 26 Nov 2015, at 18:46, erik burggraaf > > wrote:
>> 
>> I hope they keep dragging their heals.  Personally, I want their brand of 
>> old paradigm technology to fizzle.  But on the other hand, I've been 
>> yearning for brailleblaster to make strides on the mac and it just simply 
>> hasn't done for over a year and a half.  If I had the programming skills, 
>> I'd try to improve it, but I don't have the wherewithall.
>> 
>> Hopefully some one will come along and iron out the kinks.
>> 
>> I'm not a fan of the new index solution either, but even complete on board 
>> translation inside the embosser is a better fix to me than high priced 
>> proprietary software.
>> 
>> I mean, it took duxbury 5 years or more to support microsoft word 2007 
>> format on it's windows product.  Mercy!
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 26, 2015, at 6:27 AM, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not to be a wet blanket, but I've heard that from Duxbury since 2012. I 
>>> hope they do it, but I'm not sure I'd believe any time projections.
 On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:12 AM, Sadam Ahmed >>> > wrote:
 
 At CSUN earlier in the year there was mention of Duxbury coming to the 
 Mac. 
 
 Yours truly, 
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
 Certificate IV International Trade 
 
 College of Business 
 
 RMIT University 
 
 LinkedIn: 
 
 https://au.linkedin.com/in/sadam-ahmed-04121258 
  
 
 
> On 26 Nov 2015, at 12:50 am, Brian Howerton  > wrote:
> 
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Re: The Mac and Braille

[E.T.]

   Nice explanation, thanks. Makes sense. Pricey, about $800 or $900 
something for the pro version.


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On 11/27/2015 6:45 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
You can’t compare nvda with cobra.
Cobra is meant to be used with a braille display and nvda is meant to use with 
a speech synthesizer.
Nvda has braille support and of course you can use that to read mail and write 
text with but you never gonna use that with more advanced features of windows.
Cobra is a very expensive screenreader.
I don’t know the price but i can look it up.
/A

On 25 Nov 2015, at 21:46, E.T.  wrote:

   Never heard of it either. (smiles)  Do you know how much it is in US$? How 
does Cobra compare to NVDA?

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On 11/25/2015 10:52 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
You haven’t tested cobra yet?
That windows screenreader really kicks jaws and window-eyes out.
They have the best braille output i’ve ever seen.
/A

On 25 Nov 2015, at 12:11, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:

Pretty sure one of the developers Jamie if I remember correctly does utalise a 
HumanWare Brailliant.

Braille on the Mac is horrible and that's giving it a kind word.

NVDA on Windows doesn't offer grade 1 or grade 2 entry. ( Believe there getting 
around to this in 2016.14).

As much as it pains me to admit it JAWS probs has the best braille support 
closely followed by Window-Eyes.

Might  be just me, but it seems iOS support has gotten a lot better at least 
since the dark days of iOS 7.

At least input using the aforementioned Brailliant which I was lucky enough to 
get through school is very snappy.

Sadam Ahmed

Bachelor of Business Information Systems

College of Business

RMIT University

On 11/25/2015 6:55 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

No, braille on the Mac has always been a little bad. VDA on Windows isn't much 
better though, I assure you, since the developers of NVDA don't even use 
braille. Anyways, thanks for the tips.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello everyone,

It used to be that you could press a router key on a Braille display to bring 
focus to that cell. These days, pressing a router key performs the default 
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I’m working with a Braillino, so it may be different on other displays.

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Re: The Mac and Braille

[Scott Granados]

That’s no worse than anyone else although myself I’d rather see builtin support 
improve it’s still nice to see other options.

> On Nov 27, 2015, at 10:51 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Nice explanation, thanks. Makes sense. Pricey, about $800 or $900 something 
> for the pro version.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 11/27/2015 6:45 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> You can’t compare nvda with cobra.
>> Cobra is meant to be used with a braille display and nvda is meant to use 
>> with a speech synthesizer.
>> Nvda has braille support and of course you can use that to read mail and 
>> write text with but you never gonna use that with more advanced features of 
>> windows.
>> Cobra is a very expensive screenreader.
>> I don’t know the price but i can look it up.
>> /A
>>> On 25 Nov 2015, at 21:46, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Never heard of it either. (smiles)  Do you know how much it is in US$? 
>>> How does Cobra compare to NVDA?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 11/25/2015 10:52 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
 Hi!
 You haven’t tested cobra yet?
 That windows screenreader really kicks jaws and window-eyes out.
 They have the best braille output i’ve ever seen.
 /A
> On 25 Nov 2015, at 12:11, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Pretty sure one of the developers Jamie if I remember correctly does 
> utalise a HumanWare Brailliant.
> 
> Braille on the Mac is horrible and that's giving it a kind word.
> 
> NVDA on Windows doesn't offer grade 1 or grade 2 entry. ( Believe there 
> getting around to this in 2016.14).
> 
> As much as it pains me to admit it JAWS probs has the best braille 
> support closely followed by Window-Eyes.
> 
> Might  be just me, but it seems iOS support has gotten a lot better at 
> least since the dark days of iOS 7.
> 
> At least input using the aforementioned Brailliant which I was lucky 
> enough to get through school is very snappy.
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> Bachelor of Business Information Systems
> 
> College of Business
> 
> RMIT University
> 
> On 11/25/2015 6:55 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
>> No, braille on the Mac has always been a little bad. VDA on Windows 
>> isn't much better though, I assure you, since the developers of NVDA 
>> don't even use braille. Anyways, thanks for the tips.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Anne Robertson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> It used to be that you could press a router key on a Braille display to 
>>> bring focus to that cell. These days, pressing a router key performs 
>>> the default action for the item. I looked through all the VO commands 
>>> and couldn’t find any that would do what I wanted, but I discovered 
>>> that pressing a router key above a space, then pressing the combination 
>>> for either left or right arrow brings the focus to that point.
>>> 
>>> I’ve also found that the display shows the first line of a page when it 
>>> gets to the bottom of that page, and pressing the Down or Page Down 
>>> combination brings focus to the next page.
>>> 
>>> I’m working with a Braillino, so it may be different on other displays.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
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ipad full time?

[mattias]

anyone here uses a ipad full time?
i meen you dont own a mac or pc

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Re: time-machine problem

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Sabahattin,

I find your post on backups very interesting.  I do not have as much knowledge 
as you do but I'm really wanting to learn.  I'd like to ask additional 
questions if you don't mind responding.  And please feel free to respond 
privately as I'm concerned my questions are probably off topic.  I'm going to 
edit your message as needed and include my questions.

Many thanks

Andrew

> On 27 Nov 2015, at 08:21, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Time Machine should work with a suitably configured NAS with a recent version 
> of netatalk running.  It is not my preferred route—I’d much rather access the 
> NAS directly over the network and have the NAS performing snapshots either to 
> a RAID or an external cloud storage service—but it should work just fine.

Me:  How can such snapshots be achieved?  Can you point me to a source of 
knowledge on this one?  Can your mac be restored from such snapshots?  I 
already take copies of entire system with Superduper: is this what you mean?  
Can a restoration after a possible disaster be achieved from Superduper image?
> 
> My advice is to keep with a wired network if you wish to use Time Machine.
Me: You mention a NAS drive.  I have such a NAS device, WDMycloud by Western 
Digital to which I bakcup using Time Machine but it's intersting that I often 
get asked to perform a full backup to improve reliability, which would confirm 
what you have explained about the interrupted wireless signal.  Would you also 
suggest backing up to a thunderbolt drive?  Would it be more reliable?
If you can think off hand without wishing to waste your time, where I could 
learn more about this subject, I'd appreciate some pointers.

Best wishes

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Re: The Mac and Braille

[mattias]

seems anders run cobra?
On 2015-11-27 17:22, Scott Granados wrote:

That’s no worse than anyone else although myself I’d rather see builtin support 
improve it’s still nice to see other options.


On Nov 27, 2015, at 10:51 AM, E.T.  wrote:

   Nice explanation, thanks. Makes sense. Pricey, about $800 or $900 something 
for the pro version.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 11/27/2015 6:45 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
You can’t compare nvda with cobra.
Cobra is meant to be used with a braille display and nvda is meant to use with 
a speech synthesizer.
Nvda has braille support and of course you can use that to read mail and write 
text with but you never gonna use that with more advanced features of windows.
Cobra is a very expensive screenreader.
I don’t know the price but i can look it up.
/A

On 25 Nov 2015, at 21:46, E.T.  wrote:

   Never heard of it either. (smiles)  Do you know how much it is in US$? How 
does Cobra compare to NVDA?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 11/25/2015 10:52 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
You haven’t tested cobra yet?
That windows screenreader really kicks jaws and window-eyes out.
They have the best braille output i’ve ever seen.
/A

On 25 Nov 2015, at 12:11, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:

Pretty sure one of the developers Jamie if I remember correctly does utalise a 
HumanWare Brailliant.

Braille on the Mac is horrible and that's giving it a kind word.

NVDA on Windows doesn't offer grade 1 or grade 2 entry. ( Believe there getting 
around to this in 2016.14).

As much as it pains me to admit it JAWS probs has the best braille support 
closely followed by Window-Eyes.

Might  be just me, but it seems iOS support has gotten a lot better at least 
since the dark days of iOS 7.

At least input using the aforementioned Brailliant which I was lucky enough to 
get through school is very snappy.

Sadam Ahmed

Bachelor of Business Information Systems

College of Business

RMIT University

On 11/25/2015 6:55 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

No, braille on the Mac has always been a little bad. VDA on Windows isn't much 
better though, I assure you, since the developers of NVDA don't even use 
braille. Anyways, thanks for the tips.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello everyone,

It used to be that you could press a router key on a Braille display to bring 
focus to that cell. These days, pressing a router key performs the default 
action for the item. I looked through all the VO commands and couldn’t find any 
that would do what I wanted, but I discovered that pressing a router key above 
a space, then pressing the combination for either left or right arrow brings 
the focus to that point.

I’ve also found that the display shows the first line of a page when it gets to 
the bottom of that page, and pressing the Down or Page Down combination brings 
focus to the next page.

I’m working with a Braillino, so it may be different on other displays.

Cheers,

Anne


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Big Wifi Problem with macbook air

[Lee Jones]

Dear List, I wanted to use the migration assistant to move stuff from one mac 
to another, but I have recently changed wifi networks and the assistant started 
searching my old network, instead of my new one.  So I went into network 
preferences, to try and delete the old network, by hitting delete service while 
focussed on my old network and then activating apply. I obviously did something 
very wrong, because, now no wifi networks are showing up under wifi in status 
menus, which says wifi not configuered, and network preferences is just showing 
weird services like thunderbolt interface and Iphone usb, but no wifi networks. 
Is this fixable, or can I never use wifi again on my air?  I would be grateful 
for any advice you can give me.

Many Thanks, Lee   

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Re: Big Wifi Problem with macbook air

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Sounds like you might have deleted the wifi service.  Just  re-add it in 
that same area.


If that doesn't work, then under location, try creating a new location, 
instead of using automatic, and see if that helps.


I highly doubt you've broken your wifi.

Chris.

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Subject: Big Wifi Problem with macbook air


Dear List, I wanted to use the migration assistant to move stuff from one 
mac to another, but I have recently changed wifi networks and the assistant 
started searching my old network, instead of my new one.  So I went into 
network preferences, to try and delete the old network, by hitting delete 
service while focussed on my old network and then activating apply. I 
obviously did something very wrong, because, now no wifi networks are 
showing up under wifi in status menus, which says wifi not configuered, and 
network preferences is just showing weird services like thunderbolt 
interface and Iphone usb, but no wifi networks. Is this fixable, or can I 
never use wifi again on my air?  I would be grateful for any advice you can 
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Many Thanks, Lee

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Re: ipad full time?

[erik burggraaf]

Not I, but I can assure you I am on my last macbook.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf


> On Nov 27, 2015, at 1:30 PM, mattias  wrote:
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> anyone here uses a ipad full time?
> i meen you dont own a mac or pc
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Re: please help, my hard drive is being inundated

[erik burggraaf]

Hi,  I did have a look at activity monitor today when I happened to be sitting 
in front of my computer and heard the fan spin up.

I'm sure I'm missing something,  but it wasn't apparent to me which piece of 
info showed the disk space usage.  Do I have to do something special to see 
that item?

Best,

Erik Burggraaf


> On Nov 26, 2015, at 6:23 AM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
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> Have you checked your activity monitor? It can show you what process is 
> eating up all that space. Once you’re aware of which process is causing the 
> issue we can start narrowing down a good solution.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:19 AM, erik burggraaf > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I'm having a very strange problem.  At first I believed it might be my 
>> 4-year-old SSD showing it's age, but I don't know...
>> 
>> Last week my mac reported that I was low on disk space.  So, I moved 20 gb 
>> of files off into storage drives.  An hour after moving all the files, my 
>> mac again reported low on disk space, and when I looked, sure enough my disk 
>> appeard to be full.
>> 
>> Today I moved 11 gb more files off to storage and was breathing easy when my 
>> mac once again reported my disk to be full and sure enough it seems to be.
>> 
>> I'm not putting any more files onto my disk though since the first time this 
>> happened.
>> 
>> I've run apples disk checking utilities and they tell me my disk is OK for 
>> what that's worth.  My disk's size appears normal.  I ran a malware bytes 
>> scan and it didn't find anything suspicious.
>> 
>> I'd appreciate any suggestions, as if this keeps up, I won't have enough 
>> disk space left to run an operating system.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
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Re: ipad full time?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Why would you be on your last macbook?  Do you not like the mac?

Chris.

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  Not I, but I can assure you I am on my last macbook.


  Best,


  Erik Burggraaf




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anyone here uses a ipad full time?
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Re: ipad full time?

[erik burggraaf]

No,  I love my mac.  I'll be hartbroken when it dies.  It's just that between 
my ipod and my android, there's really nothing short of the convenience of 
having done things a certain way for years to justify a new macbook.  Which is 
pretty slim justification if you think about it.

I've got a cloud storage that I built myself which can support up to 24 tb of 
files.  All of my CD'as are on drive now and packed away in boxes because I 
have no room to display them.  I can email and browse on both of my mobiles.  I 
can torrent on my droid.  I haven't OCR'ed on my mac for about two years now 
because it's so easy on the ipod, and with knfb now on droid, I've got a good 
solution there too.  Microsoft is putting most of it's accessibility efforts 
into office mobile right now, and it shows.  Add in the microsoft unified 
codebase, and I'm actually excited about the possibilities for word processing 
on mobile devices.  Then there are highly robust databasing apps for mobile.  
Plus with the array of accessories available such as scanning stands, bar code 
readers, and daily living kit.  Add in the intergration of audiobook and music 
delivery services and I can honestly say I haven't even missed my mp3 player in 
a year and a half though I still carry it with me for some reason.

I'll miss audio editing as right now there's no way to get my edirol m16DX to 
interface with either a droid or an I device that I know of.  For that reason, 
I'm hoping my mac hangs around a couple of ears until I come up with something 
I'm happy with for mid range field recording and studio work.  Again, It's been 
a couple of years since I've really had my hand in there anyway, I just want 
the option since I have all the equipment anyhow.
I'll also miss mess, since mess for droid hasn't really gotten the attention 
I'd like to see put into it.  I waited for 8 years to have something like mess 
for mac and now that I can play my classic apple IIe games I'll be sad to let 
that go.  I do have an accessible frotz for android though, so I can still 
access text adventures.

If my mac dies, I'll want one of two great portable keyboards that are on the 
market right now.  Or, if I decide to go tablet for some reason then I wouldn't 
be without a keyboard foleo case.

If my mbp kicked the bucket tomorrow, it would cost me between $1100 and $1300 
outright to replace it.  Where-as, my $200 moto g is two years old now, and my 
ipod is three and I could limp along in sprightly manner with that if I had to. 
 But I could spend $700 on the mightiest android known to man unlocked and 
carrier ready, and $300 on the new ipod touch wich is just a thuroughly awsome 
piece of kit, and still have $300 left over to spend on accessories.  As long 
as I have a current back up of all my notes and things in the cloud when my mbp 
goes, I won't even skip a beat.

Most of my people these days are fully mobile either via ipad or a phone of 
some kind and don't own a computer of any kind.  My parents computer died last 
year and my mom replaced it with a $100 android tablet that does absolutely 
everything she wants to do including run her small business, print patterns, 
track recipes, advertize on facebook and more.

Mobile computing is better in every way.  Mobiles are cheaper to build, cheaper 
to package, cheaper to store, cheaper to ship, and cheaper to buy.  They're 
faster and more efficient for day to day computing than desktops which have 
more power still but always take longer to do even the simplest thing such as 
launch a program.  Mobiles have better battery as you would expect.  They 
generate less material waste and have more recyclable components, especially 
when you ad in the vast reduction in cable clutter.

Even though I'm not really happy with the stability and performance of the last 
couple of IOS, I'd still take that over the atrocity of elcapitan from what 
I've read and yes, windows 10 is a lot more user friendly than windows 8, but 
don't make me laugh.

so again, I'm not holding my breath til my macbook dies, but I'm ready for when 
it goes and I won't be replacing it with another macbook.

Enjoy,

Erik Burggraaf


> On Nov 27, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Why would you be on your last macbook?  Do you not like the mac?
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: erik burggraaf 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 7:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: ipad full time?
>> 
>> Not I, but I can assure you I am on my last macbook.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 27, 2015, at 1:30 PM, mattias mailto:m...@mjw.se>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> anyone here uses a ipad full time?
>>> i meen you dont own a mac or pc
>>> 
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Re: ipad full time?

[Alex Hall]

Keyboard commands are the main reason I prefer Mac (or Windows) to a 
mobile-only solution. Yes, iOS is getting them solely, but they aren't there 
yet, at all. Even then, some are iPad-specific, so thinking of an iPhone or 
iPod as the primary doesn't work. On my Mac, right now, I could hit cmd-tab 
once or twice to get to my Twitter app, arrow along since focus is still on the 
table of tweets, and cmd-shift-v on a tweet I want to retweet. From Mail on 
iOS, I'd have to either go to the Home screen or the App Switcher, find 
Tweetings, double tap it, wait for it to be ready, find the tweets list and 
hope it saved my place, then find a tweet I want to retweet and flick down 
twice, double tap, flick right once, double tap. Doable, of course, but not as 
efficient.

Then there are the apps you just can't get on iOS. Audio editing was mentioned; 
I have never gotten the exact control over blocking off parts of audio that I 
get on a computer. There's no substitute for hitting a key right when you want; 
double tapping takes time, then there's the pause while iOS waits to see if 
this is a triple tap, then the command is sent. There's also Xcode, which is 
not a concern for most, but it is for me.

It all comes down to efficiency. Can I do a lot on iOS? Yes. Can I do more, 
faster, on iOS with a bluetooth keyboard? Yes. Can I do still more, far more 
efficiently, on a computer? Yes, at least for now. Are there things OS X can do 
that iOS just can't? Oh yes, there are! Obviously, this is one guy's opinion, 
and everyone has different requirements and wants. It's really a personal 
choice, and no one can tell you what's best for you except you.
> On Nov 27, 2015, at 8:21 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> No,  I love my mac.  I'll be hartbroken when it dies.  It's just that between 
> my ipod and my android, there's really nothing short of the convenience of 
> having done things a certain way for years to justify a new macbook.  Which 
> is pretty slim justification if you think about it.
> 
> I've got a cloud storage that I built myself which can support up to 24 tb of 
> files.  All of my CD'as are on drive now and packed away in boxes because I 
> have no room to display them.  I can email and browse on both of my mobiles.  
> I can torrent on my droid.  I haven't OCR'ed on my mac for about two years 
> now because it's so easy on the ipod, and with knfb now on droid, I've got a 
> good solution there too.  Microsoft is putting most of it's accessibility 
> efforts into office mobile right now, and it shows.  Add in the microsoft 
> unified codebase, and I'm actually excited about the possibilities for word 
> processing on mobile devices.  Then there are highly robust databasing apps 
> for mobile.  Plus with the array of accessories available such as scanning 
> stands, bar code readers, and daily living kit.  Add in the intergration of 
> audiobook and music delivery services and I can honestly say I haven't even 
> missed my mp3 player in a year and a half though I still carry it with me for 
> some reason.
> 
> I'll miss audio editing as right now there's no way to get my edirol m16DX to 
> interface with either a droid or an I device that I know of.  For that 
> reason, I'm hoping my mac hangs around a couple of ears until I come up with 
> something I'm happy with for mid range field recording and studio work.  
> Again, It's been a couple of years since I've really had my hand in there 
> anyway, I just want the option since I have all the equipment anyhow.
> I'll also miss mess, since mess for droid hasn't really gotten the attention 
> I'd like to see put into it.  I waited for 8 years to have something like 
> mess for mac and now that I can play my classic apple IIe games I'll be sad 
> to let that go.  I do have an accessible frotz for android though, so I can 
> still access text adventures.
> 
> If my mac dies, I'll want one of two great portable keyboards that are on the 
> market right now.  Or, if I decide to go tablet for some reason then I 
> wouldn't be without a keyboard foleo case.
> 
> If my mbp kicked the bucket tomorrow, it would cost me between $1100 and 
> $1300 outright to replace it.  Where-as, my $200 moto g is two years old now, 
> and my ipod is three and I could limp along in sprightly manner with that if 
> I had to.  But I could spend $700 on the mightiest android known to man 
> unlocked and carrier ready, and $300 on the new ipod touch wich is just a 
> thuroughly awsome piece of kit, and still have $300 left over to spend on 
> accessories.  As long as I have a current back up of all my notes and things 
> in the cloud when my mbp goes, I won't even skip a beat.
> 
> Most of my people these days are fully mobile either via ipad or a phone of 
> some kind and don't own a computer of any kind.  My parents computer died 
> last year and my mom replaced it with a $100 android tablet that does 
> absolutely everything she wants to do including run her small business, print 

Re: ipad full time?

[Jason White]

Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> It all comes down to efficiency. Can I do a lot on iOS? Yes. Can I do more,
> faster, on iOS with a bluetooth keyboard? Yes. Can I do still more, far more
> efficiently, on a computer? Yes, at least for now. Are there things OS X can
> do that iOS just can't? Oh yes, there are! Obviously, this is one guy's
> opinion, and everyone has different requirements and wants. 


That's right. I'm an intensive user of UNIX tools, which one simply doesn't
have on mobile devices (and for my purposes, connecting to a remote server to
run them doesn't count). I also use keyboard commands very heavily.

What we'll see, I think, is that people who write a lot, build software or
have other specialized requirements will use more capable computers. Those who
are largely consumers of information won't need them (and that includes light
word processor users).

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Re: ipad full time?

[Sadam Ahmed]

Great points made by all.

Like Alex there are  just some tasks that I'll always use a  Mac or 
Windows laptop for.


Working with large documents, polishing my resume, spread sheet stuff 
are all things I find much faster when using the computer as a  pose to 
my various mobile devices.


Also,  running multiple apps is still painful on iOS. ( They've made 
great strides in this area specially with iOS 9 but it still has a ways 
to go before catching up with Windows or the mac.)


Sadam Ahmed

On 11/28/2015 12:21 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
No,  I love my mac.  I'll be hartbroken when it dies.  It's just that 
between my ipod and my android, there's really nothing short of the 
convenience of having done things a certain way for years to justify a 
new macbook.  Which is pretty slim justification if you think about it.


I've got a cloud storage that I built myself which can support up to 
24 tb of files.  All of my CD'as are on drive now and packed away in 
boxes because I have no room to display them.  I can email and browse 
on both of my mobiles.  I can torrent on my droid.  I haven't OCR'ed 
on my mac for about two years now because it's so easy on the ipod, 
and with knfb now on droid, I've got a good solution there too. 
 Microsoft is putting most of it's accessibility efforts into office 
mobile right now, and it shows.  Add in the microsoft unified 
codebase, and I'm actually excited about the possibilities for word 
processing on mobile devices.  Then there are highly robust databasing 
apps for mobile.  Plus with the array of accessories available such as 
scanning stands, bar code readers, and daily living kit.  Add in the 
intergration of audiobook and music delivery services and I can 
honestly say I haven't even missed my mp3 player in a year and a half 
though I still carry it with me for some reason.


I'll miss audio editing as right now there's no way to get my edirol 
m16DX to interface with either a droid or an I device that I know of. 
 For that reason, I'm hoping my mac hangs around a couple of ears 
until I come up with something I'm happy with for mid range field 
recording and studio work.  Again, It's been a couple of years since 
I've really had my hand in there anyway, I just want the option since 
I have all the equipment anyhow.
I'll also miss mess, since mess for droid hasn't really gotten the 
attention I'd like to see put into it.  I waited for 8 years to have 
something like mess for mac and now that I can play my classic apple 
IIe games I'll be sad to let that go.  I do have an accessible frotz 
for android though, so I can still access text adventures.


If my mac dies, I'll want one of two great portable keyboards that are 
on the market right now.  Or, if I decide to go tablet for some reason 
then I wouldn't be without a keyboard foleo case.


If my mbp kicked the bucket tomorrow, it would cost me between $1100 
and $1300 outright to replace it.  Where-as, my $200 moto g is two 
years old now, and my ipod is three and I could limp along in 
sprightly manner with that if I had to.  But I could spend $700 on the 
mightiest android known to man unlocked and carrier ready, and $300 on 
the new ipod touch wich is just a thuroughly awsome piece of kit, and 
still have $300 left over to spend on accessories.  As long as I have 
a current back up of all my notes and things in the cloud when my mbp 
goes, I won't even skip a beat.


Most of my people these days are fully mobile either via ipad or a 
phone of some kind and don't own a computer of any kind.  My parents 
computer died last year and my mom replaced it with a $100 android 
tablet that does absolutely everything she wants to do including run 
her small business, print patterns, track recipes, advertize on 
facebook and more.


Mobile computing is better in every way.  Mobiles are cheaper to 
build, cheaper to package, cheaper to store, cheaper to ship, and 
cheaper to buy.  They're faster and more efficient for day to day 
computing than desktops which have more power still but always take 
longer to do even the simplest thing such as launch a program. 
 Mobiles have better battery as you would expect.  They generate less 
material waste and have more recyclable components, especially when 
you ad in the vast reduction in cable clutter.


Even though I'm not really happy with the stability and performance of 
the last couple of IOS, I'd still take that over the atrocity of 
elcapitan from what I've read and yes, windows 10 is a lot more user 
friendly than windows 8, but don't make me laugh.


so again, I'm not holding my breath til my macbook dies, but I'm ready 
for when it goes and I won't be replacing it with another macbook.


Enjoy,

Erik Burggraaf


On Nov 27, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Why would you be on your last macbook?  Do you not like the mac?
Chris.

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