Re: Setting up Apple TV

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I thought you had to have a TV to set up an Apple TV.
> On 17 Nov 2015, at 22:04, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
> 
> Jürgen,
> 
> Yes, you can connect to your Airport Station if you go under the
> settings and selecting your internet service, much like an iPhone,
> iPad etc for a wireless connection. Also, here is a link that may help
> you.
> http://www.howtogeek.com/215058/how-to-set-up-an-apple-tv-using-an-iphone-ipad-or-bluetooth-keyboard/
> 
> I am curious as I am interested in buying an Apple TV this upcoming Holiday.
> Vaughn
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/17/15, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’d like to set up my Apple TV without a TV. Means I don’t have a TV with
>> hdmi. Is it possible to connect an Apple TV to an external loudspeaker or an
>> Airport Express to set it up and use it without a TV?
>> 
>> Thanks and
>> all the best
>> Jürgen
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Re: Setting up Apple TV

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Vaughn,

thanks for the help. But is it necessary to connect the device to a TV for the 
initial set up? 

All the best
Jürgen



> Am 17.11.2015 um 23:04 schrieb Vaughn Brown :
> 
> Jürgen,
> 
> Yes, you can connect to your Airport Station if you go under the
> settings and selecting your internet service, much like an iPhone,
> iPad etc for a wireless connection. Also, here is a link that may help
> you.
> http://www.howtogeek.com/215058/how-to-set-up-an-apple-tv-using-an-iphone-ipad-or-bluetooth-keyboard/
> 
> I am curious as I am interested in buying an Apple TV this upcoming Holiday.
> Vaughn
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/17/15, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’d like to set up my Apple TV without a TV. Means I don’t have a TV with
>> hdmi. Is it possible to connect an Apple TV to an external loudspeaker or an
>> Airport Express to set it up and use it without a TV?
>> 
>> Thanks and
>> all the best
>> Jürgen
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Re: where do i find my info on the mac

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Hey Zoe,

I really think you should find somewhere to put at least your critical 
stuff—documents and whatnot.  Don’t worry about the software on your Mac until 
you have made certain that your stuff is safe.  iCloud Drive, if you don’t mind 
Apple keeping it for you, is one such place.

Then, yes, it’s a good idea to have an external drive from which to do your 
installs or onto which you make your backups.  If you put your critical stuff 
into iCloud drive, then you could get a cheap USB hard disk or pen drive, and 
use it to put the OS X installation app onto.  That way you can easily and 
reliably get yourself out of a bind when you really screw it up, for whatever 
reason.  You will need nothing more to set up, and restore from iCloud or your 
backup disk.

Cheers,
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RE: where do i find my info on the mac

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Because I don't know how to use the mac yet, I have nothing on there, no 
photos, no music, no documents, absolutely nothing.  I do have a few usb keys 
but not an external drive.  How much space will I need to have to make a backup 
of the system?s

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Sent: November-18-15 7:42 AM
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Subject: Re: where do i find my info on the mac

Hey Zoe,

I really think you should find somewhere to put at least your critical 
stuff—documents and whatnot.  Don’t worry about the software on your Mac until 
you have made certain that your stuff is safe.  iCloud Drive, if you don’t mind 
Apple keeping it for you, is one such place.

Then, yes, it’s a good idea to have an external drive from which to do your 
installs or onto which you make your backups.  If you put your critical stuff 
into iCloud drive, then you could get a cheap USB hard disk or pen drive, and 
use it to put the OS X installation app onto.  That way you can easily and 
reliably get yourself out of a bind when you really screw it up, for whatever 
reason.  You will need nothing more to set up, and restore from iCloud or your 
backup disk.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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RE: i think my settings are wrong

[Zoe Fiogkos]

I did that as well, as I said in a previous message, I have a feeling some of 
my settings must be causing this because I checked in voiceover utility and a 
lot of things are checked, when it comes to mouse, keyboard, and cursor.  In 
one section everything is checked.  I’m at a loss, I thought I would give the 
mac another go and now it seems like I’m not going to make it.  I can’t afford 
lessons at this moment.  Paid lessons are not out of the question but just not 
now.  It doesn’t seem like anyone on the list can figure it out either.  Sorry 
for sounding so down but I’m just very sad that I cannot seem to progress.
Thanks for listening all
zoe
 
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On Behalf Of Rachel Feinberg
Sent: November-17-15 10:23 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: i think my settings are wrong
 
Try to turn cursor tracking on by pressing vo+shift+F3. 
Control+option+shift+F3. If cursor tracking is on, then let us know, and we'll 
continue troubleshooting.


On 11/17/2015 5:39 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:
  Ok guys all my problems I think are coming from wrong settings.  
Why do I say this?  Well I’m in voiceover utility and I hear initial position 
of voiceover cursor, so I vo left and I hear keyboard focused itempop up 
button, I vo spacebar and voiceover says your currently on a menu item, to 
choose this item press vo space to close this menu press escape.  I press 
escape and nothing happends.  Someone mentioned the cursor tracking might be 
causing these troubles I’m having well everything in this section seems to be 
checked, what do I do?
I have no idea what to set which way any help
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Re: where do i find my info on the mac

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Fair enough, but make sure you have a copy of what you need at least, when the 
time comes.

To find the amount of space required for a backup, you can go to System 
Preferences, Time Machine, then press the Options button.  In the dialog is 
listed, somewhere, the full amount of space required.  A bit more than the 
typical USB key.

However, a USB key is just fine for copying your essential files.  So, whenever 
you save something important, copy it to the key.  When you’re upgraded you can 
just use the key to restore your files, or iCloud Drive.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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RE: where do i find my info on the mac

[Zoe Fiogkos]

thank you so much, you have helped me more then anyone else.  I appreciate it 
so much.  Even though I'm ready to give up because of the pages and menu extras 
thing I might try the upgrading thing and hopefully that might solve some 
things for me.


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Sent: November-18-15 10:50 AM
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Subject: Re: where do i find my info on the mac

Fair enough, but make sure you have a copy of what you need at least, when the 
time comes.

To find the amount of space required for a backup, you can go to System 
Preferences, Time Machine, then press the Options button.  In the dialog is 
listed, somewhere, the full amount of space required.  A bit more than the 
typical USB key.

However, a USB key is just fine for copying your essential files.  So, whenever 
you save something important, copy it to the key.  When you’re upgraded you can 
just use the key to restore your files, or iCloud Drive.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: pages help please?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Zoe,

As you’re a complete beginner on the Mac, Pages is not the most appropriate 
word processor for you to be using.
If you open your Applications folder while in the Finder by pressing 
Cmd-Shift-a, you should find TextEdit. This is a much simpler program and 
should do what you want.
To put TextEdit into your Dock, just open it, then go to the Dock where it will 
appear. Get a contextual menu on it in the Dock by pressing VO-Shift-m and 
select Keep in Dock.

When you open TextEdit, you’ll be on the text area. Interact with this and the 
rest should be simple.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 18 Nov 2015, at 01:44, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> 
> Sorry what do you me what does your mac say when you po shift at three?
> As for the curser I'm going to check it right now
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan C. Cohn
> Sent: November-17-15 5:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: pages help please?
> 
> It sounds like your voice over cursor is not following your keyboard cursor. 
> This could be either a VO shift F3. Or a option with in the voiceover 
> utilities the 0F8.
> 
> What is your max say when you had PO shift at three?
> 
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
>> 
>> I have interacted and if I click vo down arrow it moves by line but if I 
>> click just the down arrow it says menu extras.  I'm so confused, why is it 
>> doing this?
>> 
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
>> Sent: November-17-15 2:24 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: pages help please?
>> 
>> Zoey,
>> 
>> You have to interact with the text edit field with the same command
>> that you interact with your menus, VO shit down arrow to interact, up
>> arrow to deinteract.
>> Could someoneelse chime in on editing commands? I think they are
>> similar as Jaws involving the shift key to select.
>> Thanks,
>> Vaughn
>> 
>>> On 11/17/15, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
>>> Guys can you give me some basic commands how to navigate text in a pages
>>> document.  Also how to select things by word or line to delete.  Also how
>>> can I know if I'm in the pages document.  Sometimes I hear text of the
>>> pages
>>> document but when I click vo right arrow I here menu extras what am I doing
>>> wrong
>>> Right now I don't want to do anything fancy I'm copying text and hopefully
>>> pasting in to the right place in pages but when I try to navigate and edit
>>> I
>>> can't seem to navigate properly.
>>> Please help?
>>> 
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Re: Setting up Apple TV

[Vaughn Brown]

No. I have a friend who happens to be blind who uses Apple TV and he
and his wife do not have a TV.
Vaughn

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> Hi Vaughn,
>
> thanks for the help. But is it necessary to connect the device to a TV for
> the initial set up?
>
> All the best
> Jürgen
>
>
>
>> Am 17.11.2015 um 23:04 schrieb Vaughn Brown :
>>
>> Jürgen,
>>
>> Yes, you can connect to your Airport Station if you go under the
>> settings and selecting your internet service, much like an iPhone,
>> iPad etc for a wireless connection. Also, here is a link that may help
>> you.
>> http://www.howtogeek.com/215058/how-to-set-up-an-apple-tv-using-an-iphone-ipad-or-bluetooth-keyboard/
>>
>> I am curious as I am interested in buying an Apple TV this upcoming
>> Holiday.
>> Vaughn
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/17/15, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I’d like to set up my Apple TV without a TV. Means I don’t have a TV
>>> with
>>> hdmi. Is it possible to connect an Apple TV to an external loudspeaker or
>>> an
>>> Airport Express to set it up and use it without a TV?
>>>
>>> Thanks and
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Re: Garage Band: how to change key with in the middle of a song or wherever needed

[Vaughn Brown]

I do not think this is accessible. Have you tried putting the cursor
where you want the key change then inserting a new key? Otherwise
you'll have to change it yourself by playing in a different key.
Vaughn

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> middle or where ever is necessary?
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Re: Garage Band: how to change key with in the middle of a song or wherever needed

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Hi Vaughn,

I have one other question for you.  Do you know how to move the drummer around? 
 For example, I have it started where I want it but I want just certain 
instruments to play for a little while and then the drummer to pick back up 
again?  I tried dragging and dropping my drummer track to the appropriate bar 
and I also tried copying and pasting but this doesn’t work.


> On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
> 
> I do not think this is accessible. Have you tried putting the cursor
> where you want the key change then inserting a new key? Otherwise
> you'll have to change it yourself by playing in a different key.
> Vaughn
> 
> On 11/13/15, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> Hello there,
>> 
>> I wonder has anyone figured out how to change the key of a song in the
>> middle or where ever is necessary?
>> 
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Re: Setting up Apple TV

[Jonathan Mosen]

The Apple TV 4th generation is more difficult, but not impossible, to use 
without a TV, because it no longer offers a separate audio optical output as 
the third generation did.
You'll need HDMI to at least set it up initially. If necessary, you can get 
HDMI to analog converters. You can pair a Bluetooth or AirPlay device after 
initial setup.
I'm about two thirds of the way through writing my Apple TV 4th gen book, and 
hope to have it in the store by Christmas, when I'm sure a lot of people will 
be seeing new Apple TVs under their tree.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 19/11/2015, at 6:35 AM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
> 
> No. I have a friend who happens to be blind who uses Apple TV and he
> and his wife do not have a TV.
> Vaughn
> 
> On 11/18/15, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>> Hi Vaughn,
>> 
>> thanks for the help. But is it necessary to connect the device to a TV for
>> the initial set up?
>> 
>> All the best
>> Jürgen
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 17.11.2015 um 23:04 schrieb Vaughn Brown :
>>> 
>>> Jürgen,
>>> 
>>> Yes, you can connect to your Airport Station if you go under the
>>> settings and selecting your internet service, much like an iPhone,
>>> iPad etc for a wireless connection. Also, here is a link that may help
>>> you.
>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/215058/how-to-set-up-an-apple-tv-using-an-iphone-ipad-or-bluetooth-keyboard/
>>> 
>>> I am curious as I am interested in buying an Apple TV this upcoming
>>> Holiday.
>>> Vaughn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/15, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I’d like to set up my Apple TV without a TV. Means I don’t have a TV
 with
 hdmi. Is it possible to connect an Apple TV to an external loudspeaker or
 an
 Airport Express to set it up and use it without a TV?
 
 Thanks and
 all the best
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Re: Setting up Apple TV

[Jürgen Fleger]

Thanks Vaughn and Jonathan, that gave me a clew.
All the best
Jürgen

> Am 18.11.2015 um 20:54 schrieb Jonathan Mosen :
> 
> The Apple TV 4th generation is more difficult, but not impossible, to use 
> without a TV, because it no longer offers a separate audio optical output as 
> the third generation did.
> You'll need HDMI to at least set it up initially. If necessary, you can get 
> HDMI to analog converters. You can pair a Bluetooth or AirPlay device after 
> initial setup.
> I'm about two thirds of the way through writing my Apple TV 4th gen book, and 
> hope to have it in the store by Christmas, when I'm sure a lot of people will 
> be seeing new Apple TVs under their tree.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org 
>> On 19/11/2015, at 6:35 AM, Vaughn Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> No. I have a friend who happens to be blind who uses Apple TV and he
>> and his wife do not have a TV.
>> Vaughn
>> 
>> On 11/18/15, Jürgen Fleger > > wrote:
>>> Hi Vaughn,
>>> 
>>> thanks for the help. But is it necessary to connect the device to a TV for
>>> the initial set up?
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Jürgen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 Am 17.11.2015 um 23:04 schrieb Vaughn Brown >>> >:
 
 Jürgen,
 
 Yes, you can connect to your Airport Station if you go under the
 settings and selecting your internet service, much like an iPhone,
 iPad etc for a wireless connection. Also, here is a link that may help
 you.
 http://www.howtogeek.com/215058/how-to-set-up-an-apple-tv-using-an-iphone-ipad-or-bluetooth-keyboard/
  
 
 
 I am curious as I am interested in buying an Apple TV this upcoming
 Holiday.
 Vaughn
 
 
 
 On 11/17/15, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I’d like to set up my Apple TV without a TV. Means I don’t have a TV
> with
> hdmi. Is it possible to connect an Apple TV to an external loudspeaker or
> an
> Airport Express to set it up and use it without a TV?
> 
> Thanks and
> all the best
> Jürgen
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Re: Garage Band: how to change key with in the middle of a song or wherever needed

[Vaughn Brown]

Perhaps someone has a better answer because what you are doing should
be working for the drummer. Have you tried cutting instead of copying?
Or deleting the bars where you don't want the drummer after copying
and pasting?
Vaughn

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>
> I have one other question for you.  Do you know how to move the drummer
> around?  For example, I have it started where I want it but I want just
> certain instruments to play for a little while and then the drummer to pick
> back up again?  I tried dragging and dropping my drummer track to the
> appropriate bar and I also tried copying and pasting but this doesn’t work.
>
>
>> On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Vaughn Brown 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I do not think this is accessible. Have you tried putting the cursor
>> where you want the key change then inserting a new key? Otherwise
>> you'll have to change it yourself by playing in a different key.
>> Vaughn
>>
>> On 11/13/15, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> Hello there,
>>>
>>> I wonder has anyone figured out how to change the key of a song in the
>>> middle or where ever is necessary?
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Boot Camp, talking installer.

[Paul Sandoval]

i'm trying to install Windows 7 via Boot Camp.
I'm also attempting to use the talking windows installer.
If someone has experience using this installer, I could really use some 
assistance.
I've listened to a podcast on Apple this, but I do not know what I'm missing.
I'm using a MacBook air mid 2013.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
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Re: Setting up Apple TV

[Phil Halton]

I know I'll be buying that book!


Sent from my IPhone


> On Nov 18, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> The Apple TV 4th generation is more difficult, but not impossible, to use 
> without a TV, because it no longer offers a separate audio optical output as 
> the third generation did.
> You'll need HDMI to at least set it up initially. If necessary, you can get 
> HDMI to analog converters. You can pair a Bluetooth or AirPlay device after 
> initial setup.
> I'm about two thirds of the way through writing my Apple TV 4th gen book, and 
> hope to have it in the store by Christmas, when I'm sure a lot of people will 
> be seeing new Apple TVs under their tree.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 19/11/2015, at 6:35 AM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> No. I have a friend who happens to be blind who uses Apple TV and he
>> and his wife do not have a TV.
>> Vaughn
>> 
>>> On 11/18/15, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>>> Hi Vaughn,
>>> 
>>> thanks for the help. But is it necessary to connect the device to a TV for
>>> the initial set up?
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Jürgen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 Am 17.11.2015 um 23:04 schrieb Vaughn Brown :
 
 Jürgen,
 
 Yes, you can connect to your Airport Station if you go under the
 settings and selecting your internet service, much like an iPhone,
 iPad etc for a wireless connection. Also, here is a link that may help
 you.
 http://www.howtogeek.com/215058/how-to-set-up-an-apple-tv-using-an-iphone-ipad-or-bluetooth-keyboard/
 
 I am curious as I am interested in buying an Apple TV this upcoming
 Holiday.
 Vaughn
 
 
 
> On 11/17/15, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I’d like to set up my Apple TV without a TV. Means I don’t have a TV
> with
> hdmi. Is it possible to connect an Apple TV to an external loudspeaker or
> an
> Airport Express to set it up and use it without a TV?
> 
> Thanks and
> all the best
> Jürgen
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Easiest way to get my iTunes library onto a thumb drive

[Mary Otten]

I would like to get all of the media that is in my iTunes library on to a 128 
GB thumb drive, which I have. I see that there is an export under the library 
in the menu. But it looks like that might just be an XML file. At least the 
title says that it's an XML file. I want to export the media. Will this do it?I 
would like to end up with the directory structure as it is, with the artists as 
the folder names. Am I going to just get this file or my going to get all my 
media? And if this isn't the way to get the media, then I suppose I would have 
to go find the parent directory and copy that out to the drive. Alias on my 
desktop which opens this folder where all of the music is stored. I can go in 
there in a big table and copy out individual songs or probably even whole 
folders. But it doesn't look like I can copy the parent directory that way. 
What is the most efficient way to get this done?
Mary


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Re: i think my settings are wrong

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,

It is heard to tell what is going on from just your short descriptions. I
think there are two possibilities.

1. Get one of us on the phone so we can hear what your computer is saying.
2. Upgrade to 10.11 using an erase of the disk first, then it will be like
having a completely new computer.

If you want to contact me off list, I would be glad to work you through
this issue. doing a clean install

A clean install is really not that difficult, after starting the install
process, you go into disk utility and tell it to delete the partition where
the operating system is.

On 18 November 2015 at 09:31, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:

> I did that as well, as I said in a previous message, I have a feeling some
> of my settings must be causing this because I checked in voiceover utility
> and a lot of things are checked, when it comes to mouse, keyboard, and
> cursor.  In one section everything is checked.  I’m at a loss, I thought
> I would give the mac another go and now it seems like I’m not going to make
> it.  I can’t afford lessons at this moment.  Paid lessons are not out of
> the question but just not now.  It doesn’t seem like anyone on the list
> can figure it out either.  Sorry for sounding so down but I’m just very
> sad that I cannot seem to progress.
>
> Thanks for listening all
>
> zoe
>
>
>
> *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rachel Feinberg
> *Sent:* November-17-15 10:23 PM
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: i think my settings are wrong
>
>
>
> Try to turn cursor tracking on by pressing vo+shift+F3.
> Control+option+shift+F3. If cursor tracking is on, then let us know, and
> we'll continue troubleshooting.
>
> On 11/17/2015 5:39 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:
>
>   Ok guys all my problems I think are coming from wrong
> settings.  Why do I say this?  Well I’m in voiceover utility and I hear
> initial position of voiceover cursor, so I vo left and I hear keyboard
> focused itempop up button, I vo spacebar and voiceover says your currently
> on a menu item, to choose this item press vo space to close this menu press
> escape.  I press escape and nothing happends.  Someone mentioned the
> cursor tracking might be causing these troubles I’m having well everything
> in this section seems to be checked, what do I do?
>
> I have no idea what to set which way any help
>
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Re: Easiest way to get my iTunes library onto a thumb drive

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

go to your iTunes library then copy iTunes media folder. you can go to your 
finder then press command shift h, then music then iTunes then iTunes copy 
iTunesmedia folder.
> Il giorno 18 nov 2015, alle ore 10:53 PM, Mary Otten  ha 
> scritto:
> 
> I would like to get all of the media that is in my iTunes library on to a 128 
> GB thumb drive, which I have. I see that there is an export under the library 
> in the menu. But it looks like that might just be an XML file. At least the 
> title says that it's an XML file. I want to export the media. Will this do 
> it?I would like to end up with the directory structure as it is, with the 
> artists as the folder names. Am I going to just get this file or my going to 
> get all my media? And if this isn't the way to get the media, then I suppose 
> I would have to go find the parent directory and copy that out to the drive. 
> Alias on my desktop which opens this folder where all of the music is stored. 
> I can go in there in a big table and copy out individual songs or probably 
> even whole folders. But it doesn't look like I can copy the parent directory 
> that way. What is the most efficient way to get this done?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: i think my settings are wrong

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

try to restart your computer.
> Il giorno 18 nov 2015, alle ore 10:59 PM, Jonathan Cohn 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> It is heard to tell what is going on from just your short descriptions. I 
> think there are two possibilities. 
> 
> 1. Get one of us on the phone so we can hear what your computer is saying.
> 2. Upgrade to 10.11 using an erase of the disk first, then it will be like 
> having a completely new computer.
> 
> If you want to contact me off list, I would be glad to work you through this 
> issue. doing a clean install
> 
> A clean install is really not that difficult, after starting the install 
> process, you go into disk utility and tell it to delete the partition where 
> the operating system is.
> 
> On 18 November 2015 at 09:31, Zoe Fiogkos  > wrote:
> I did that as well, as I said in a previous message, I have a feeling some of 
> my settings must be causing this because I checked in voiceover utility and a 
> lot of things are checked, when it comes to mouse, keyboard, and cursor.  In 
> one section everything is checked.  I’m at a loss, I thought I would give the 
> mac another go and now it seems like I’m not going to make it.  I can’t 
> afford lessons at this moment.  Paid lessons are not out of the question but 
> just not now.  It doesn’t seem like anyone on the list can figure it out 
> either.  Sorry for sounding so down but I’m just very sad that I cannot seem 
> to progress.
> 
> Thanks for listening all
> 
> zoe
> 
>  
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Rachel Feinberg
> Sent: November-17-15 10:23 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: i think my settings are wrong
> 
>  
> 
> Try to turn cursor tracking on by pressing vo+shift+F3. 
> Control+option+shift+F3. If cursor tracking is on, then let us know, and 
> we'll continue troubleshooting.
> 
> 
> On 11/17/2015 5:39 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:
> 
>   Ok guys all my problems I think are coming from wrong settings. 
>  Why do I say this?  Well I’m in voiceover utility and I hear initial 
> position of voiceover cursor, so I vo left and I hear keyboard focused 
> itempop up button, I vo spacebar and voiceover says your currently on a menu 
> item, to choose this item press vo space to close this menu press escape.  I 
> press escape and nothing happends.  Someone mentioned the cursor tracking 
> might be causing these troubles I’m having well everything in this section 
> seems to be checked, what do I do?
> 
> I have no idea what to set which way any help
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Spotify of Mac

[Janine Smith]

 

Hi.

 

I am trying to use the Spotify app on my Macbook Air running OSX 10.11.1.  I 
downloaded the Spotify App and the zip file from Applevis that turns on 
accessibility.  I managed to log into my account but now Voiceover just 
keeps saying empty html content when I try to interact with the Spotify app.  
If I press command l it will bring up the search box whereupon I can input 
a search but as soon as I press enter I get a number of frames all of which 
tell me empty html content when I try to interact with them.

 

I have tried to access settings, both from the menu on the search page and 
by going to preferences in the Spotify menu, but again I get the message 
about empty html content when I try to navigate that page.

 

I have tried both in normal and full screen mode.  I also tried deleting 
and then re-downloading and installing the voSpotify application but still 
get the same result.

 

What am I doing wrong?  Any ideas on how I can get this to work would be 
greatly appreciated.

 

Before anyone suggests Apple Music as an alternative, I thought I would try 
Spotify first as it has a free option when my trial period is over.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Many thanks in advance for any 
assistance you can provide.

 

Regards Janine

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Re: Spotify of Mac

[Vaughn Brown]

Hi,
It sounds like this app may not be accessible.
Vaughn

On 11/18/15, Janine Smith  wrote:
>
>
> Hi.
>
>
>
> I am trying to use the Spotify app on my Macbook Air running OSX 10.11.1.  I
>
> downloaded the Spotify App and the zip file from Applevis that turns on
> accessibility.  I managed to log into my account but now Voiceover just
> keeps saying empty html content when I try to interact with the Spotify app.
>
> If I press command l it will bring up the search box whereupon I can input
> a search but as soon as I press enter I get a number of frames all of which
>
> tell me empty html content when I try to interact with them.
>
>
>
> I have tried to access settings, both from the menu on the search page and
> by going to preferences in the Spotify menu, but again I get the message
> about empty html content when I try to navigate that page.
>
>
>
> I have tried both in normal and full screen mode.  I also tried deleting
> and then re-downloading and installing the voSpotify application but still
> get the same result.
>
>
>
> What am I doing wrong?  Any ideas on how I can get this to work would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Before anyone suggests Apple Music as an alternative, I thought I would try
>
> Spotify first as it has a free option when my trial period is over.
>
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Many thanks in advance for any
> assistance you can provide.
>
>
>
> Regards Janine
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Re: Spotify of Mac

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
That is not the problem here. This VO Spotify App is what makes it 
accessible, yes. The problem here is that Spotify uses Chromeium AKA 
same as Google Chrome for it's webpage display area, and VoiceOver does 
not like Chrome under El Capitan for some reason.

I do, know however, that this method does work, as I used it under Yosemite.
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey

On 11/18/2015 6:08 PM, Vaughn Brown wrote:

Hi,
It sounds like this app may not be accessible.
Vaughn

On 11/18/15, Janine Smith  wrote:


Hi.



I am trying to use the Spotify app on my Macbook Air running OSX 10.11.1.  I

downloaded the Spotify App and the zip file from Applevis that turns on
accessibility.  I managed to log into my account but now Voiceover just
keeps saying empty html content when I try to interact with the Spotify app.

If I press command l it will bring up the search box whereupon I can input
a search but as soon as I press enter I get a number of frames all of which

tell me empty html content when I try to interact with them.



I have tried to access settings, both from the menu on the search page and
by going to preferences in the Spotify menu, but again I get the message
about empty html content when I try to navigate that page.



I have tried both in normal and full screen mode.  I also tried deleting
and then re-downloading and installing the voSpotify application but still
get the same result.



What am I doing wrong?  Any ideas on how I can get this to work would be
greatly appreciated.



Before anyone suggests Apple Music as an alternative, I thought I would try

Spotify first as it has a free option when my trial period is over.



Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Many thanks in advance for any
assistance you can provide.



Regards Janine

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Re: Garage Band: how to change key with in the middle of a song or wherever needed

[Scott Berry]

Hi there Vaughn,

I haven’t yet.  I’ll give that a try.


> On Nov 18, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps someone has a better answer because what you are doing should
> be working for the drummer. Have you tried cutting instead of copying?
> Or deleting the bars where you don't want the drummer after copying
> and pasting?
> Vaughn
> 
> On 11/18/15, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> Hi Vaughn,
>> 
>> I have one other question for you.  Do you know how to move the drummer
>> around?  For example, I have it started where I want it but I want just
>> certain instruments to play for a little while and then the drummer to pick
>> back up again?  I tried dragging and dropping my drummer track to the
>> appropriate bar and I also tried copying and pasting but this doesn’t work.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Vaughn Brown 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I do not think this is accessible. Have you tried putting the cursor
>>> where you want the key change then inserting a new key? Otherwise
>>> you'll have to change it yourself by playing in a different key.
>>> Vaughn
>>> 
>>> On 11/13/15, Scott Berry  wrote:
 Hello there,
 
 I wonder has anyone figured out how to change the key of a song in the
 middle or where ever is necessary?
 
 
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RE: pages help please?

[Zoe Fiogkos]

Hi Ann,  I plan to eventually get some lessons, but unfortunately that isn't 
possible right now.  A few questions if you don't mind.  Are you the Ann that 
does the pages lessons, if yes could you contact me privately and give details 
of the cost and outline of what you teach exactly.  Secondly I'm sorry if I 
sound repetitive but something is very strange, I don't know if you have sight 
or anyone who is reading this message has some site.  It's very strange and the 
body of pages I can see the text and I can select text with the shift arrow up 
from the end of the text towards the top but not from the top towards the 
bottom.  And in the caption field at the bottom of the screen there is an arrow 
pointing up.  Even if I'm at the beginning of the document the arrow never 
points down.  What do you think of that?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: November-18-15 12:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: pages help please?

Hello Zoe,

As you’re a complete beginner on the Mac, Pages is not the most appropriate 
word processor for you to be using.
If you open your Applications folder while in the Finder by pressing 
Cmd-Shift-a, you should find TextEdit. This is a much simpler program and 
should do what you want.
To put TextEdit into your Dock, just open it, then go to the Dock where it will 
appear. Get a contextual menu on it in the Dock by pressing VO-Shift-m and 
select Keep in Dock.

When you open TextEdit, you’ll be on the text area. Interact with this and the 
rest should be simple.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 18 Nov 2015, at 01:44, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> 
> Sorry what do you me what does your mac say when you po shift at three?
> As for the curser I'm going to check it right now
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan C. Cohn
> Sent: November-17-15 5:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: pages help please?
> 
> It sounds like your voice over cursor is not following your keyboard cursor. 
> This could be either a VO shift F3. Or a option with in the voiceover 
> utilities the 0F8.
> 
> What is your max say when you had PO shift at three?
> 
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
>> 
>> I have interacted and if I click vo down arrow it moves by line but if I 
>> click just the down arrow it says menu extras.  I'm so confused, why is it 
>> doing this?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
>> Sent: November-17-15 2:24 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: pages help please?
>> 
>> Zoey,
>> 
>> You have to interact with the text edit field with the same command
>> that you interact with your menus, VO shit down arrow to interact, up
>> arrow to deinteract.
>> Could someoneelse chime in on editing commands? I think they are
>> similar as Jaws involving the shift key to select.
>> Thanks,
>> Vaughn
>> 
>>> On 11/17/15, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
>>> Guys can you give me some basic commands how to navigate text in a pages
>>> document.  Also how to select things by word or line to delete.  Also how
>>> can I know if I'm in the pages document.  Sometimes I hear text of the
>>> pages
>>> document but when I click vo right arrow I here menu extras what am I doing
>>> wrong
>>> Right now I don't want to do anything fancy I'm copying text and hopefully
>>> pasting in to the right place in pages but when I try to navigate and edit
>>> I
>>> can't seem to navigate properly.
>>> Please help?
>>> 
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RE: i think my settings are wrong

[Zoe Fiogkos]

I think your right.
Where in the world are you, so I can see if you are covered under my calling 
plan.
 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: November-18-15 5:00 PM
To: macvisionaries
Subject: Re: i think my settings are wrong
 
Hello,
 
It is heard to tell what is going on from just your short descriptions. I think 
there are two possibilities. 
 
1. Get one of us on the phone so we can hear what your computer is saying.
2. Upgrade to 10.11 using an erase of the disk first, then it will be like 
having a completely new computer.
 
If you want to contact me off list, I would be glad to work you through this 
issue. doing a clean install
 
A clean install is really not that difficult, after starting the install 
process, you go into disk utility and tell it to delete the partition where the 
operating system is.
 
On 18 November 2015 at 09:31, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
I did that as well, as I said in a previous message, I have a feeling some of 
my settings must be causing this because I checked in voiceover utility and a 
lot of things are checked, when it comes to mouse, keyboard, and cursor.  In 
one section everything is checked.  I’m at a loss, I thought I would give the 
mac another go and now it seems like I’m not going to make it.  I can’t afford 
lessons at this moment.  Paid lessons are not out of the question but just not 
now.  It doesn’t seem like anyone on the list can figure it out either.  Sorry 
for sounding so down but I’m just very sad that I cannot seem to progress.
Thanks for listening all
zoe
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Rachel Feinberg
Sent: November-17-15 10:23 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: i think my settings are wrong
 
Try to turn cursor tracking on by pressing vo+shift+F3. 
Control+option+shift+F3. If cursor tracking is on, then let us know, and we'll 
continue troubleshooting.
On 11/17/2015 5:39 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:
  Ok guys all my problems I think are coming from wrong settings.  
Why do I say this?  Well I’m in voiceover utility and I hear initial position 
of voiceover cursor, so I vo left and I hear keyboard focused itempop up 
button, I vo spacebar and voiceover says your currently on a menu item, to 
choose this item press vo space to close this menu press escape.  I press 
escape and nothing happends.  Someone mentioned the cursor tracking might be 
causing these troubles I’m having well everything in this section seems to be 
checked, what do I do?
I have no idea what to set which way any help
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Re: Spotify of Mac

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Janine,

Here is a post I've done on applevis (with accompanying audio demo) on 
how to navigate Spotify on the Mac using the keyboard.


It seems the key to navigating the Spotify app is via frames. If you 
press command+L to get to the search field, (it's best to navigate the 
page with quick nav off), make sure to press command+A to select all and 
delete it, just in case there was text in the field you weren't  aware 
of. Put in your search term and press enter. Now, to get to the search 
results, press control+option+command+F. (VO+F). this will move you 
forward to the next frame. Interact with the frame, it will say "search 
frame" and vo+right arrow to the artists, or albums you wish to see. 
there's, at first, an unlabeled link, then the name of the 
artist/album/song, then, depending on what you're  looking for, the name 
of the artist. for example, if you were  looking for a song, you'll see 
the song title as a link, and then if you vo+right arrow again, you'll  
see the name of the artist/band. If you want to play said song, vo+space 
on the link, then navigate to the next frame, (VO+Command+F), and it 
will get you to the specifics. Interact with this, and navigate to the 
"play" button. At this point, you can (if you wish), turn on quick 
navigation by pressing left/right arrows at the same time, and press "b" 
to get to the "play" button. You can also tab a few times and you will 
be presented with a table of songs, either from an album you're  
listening to, or various songs with the same title by an artist, 
depending on your search. I've  created a short audio demo of Spotify 
searching, perhaps it will help:

https://audioboom.com/boos/3300081-spotify-accessibility-on-the-mac

Hope this helps.
Rachel.
On 11/18/2015 3:37 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:

Hi,
That is not the problem here. This VO Spotify App is what makes it 
accessible, yes. The problem here is that Spotify uses Chromeium AKA 
same as Google Chrome for it's webpage display area, and VoiceOver 
does not like Chrome under El Capitan for some reason.
I do, know however, that this method does work, as I used it under 
Yosemite.

Hope this helps,
Jeffrey

On 11/18/2015 6:08 PM, Vaughn Brown wrote:

Hi,
It sounds like this app may not be accessible.
Vaughn

On 11/18/15, Janine Smith  wrote:


Hi.



I am trying to use the Spotify app on my Macbook Air running OSX 
10.11.1.  I


downloaded the Spotify App and the zip file from Applevis that turns on
accessibility.  I managed to log into my account but now Voiceover just
keeps saying empty html content when I try to interact with the 
Spotify app.


If I press command l it will bring up the search box whereupon I can 
input
a search but as soon as I press enter I get a number of frames all 
of which


tell me empty html content when I try to interact with them.



I have tried to access settings, both from the menu on the search 
page and
by going to preferences in the Spotify menu, but again I get the 
message

about empty html content when I try to navigate that page.



I have tried both in normal and full screen mode.  I also tried 
deleting
and then re-downloading and installing the voSpotify application but 
still

get the same result.



What am I doing wrong?  Any ideas on how I can get this to work 
would be

greatly appreciated.



Before anyone suggests Apple Music as an alternative, I thought I 
would try


Spotify first as it has a free option when my trial period is over.



Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Many thanks in advance for any
assistance you can provide.



Regards Janine

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Re: Easiest way to get my iTunes library onto a thumb drive

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

You want to take a complete copy of your iTunes library.  Quit iTunes, then 
copy the folder called iTunes in the Music folder in your home directory under 
/Users.  Drop that on your drive.  That will get you both the media files and 
all the iTunes library metadata that goes with them.  You can reverse the 
process to restore.

Not sure what the story is behind your desktop alias.  Is that for use by some 
other program, or do you just like easy access to your iTunes folder?

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