Re: how to find instruments from Min Stage 3 in Garage Band

[Piotr Machacz]

You will find them in your library, just like every other instrument. The newer 
packs will just be added to existing categories, while older patches, like the 
4 Garage Band jam packs, will be at the very bottom under the “legacy” section.

> On 19 Jul 2015, at 22:09, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
>   Hello there,
> 
> How do I find the Main Stage Jam packs once installed from Garage Band?
> 
> Thank you for the help.
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Re: glances on the watch

[Jenine Stanley]

I use the digital crown all the time. I do use it in Glances as well. for me 
the angle is all wrong between my right hand and left wrist for totally 
efficient swiping.

It took me a bit to get the motion of gently flicking the crown. I was putting 
too much pressure on it and using way too much of my fingertip. Now it’s a 
natural gesture.
Jenine Stanley
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> On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:15 AM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I’m wondering if anyone has really ever got to use the digital crown on the 
> watch. I would really like it to be used for glances, instead of swiping like 
> an idiot on the phone. Surprised this feature, which seems so intuitive and 
> matter of factly on something like a watch has not been adopted.
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: Sonos Controler.

[Kevin White]

Thanks for the information. I've played with it some, and while it is
not an ideal situation for controlling the Sonos playback experience,
I find that it does meet my needs for basic music library management.
I hope that the devs incorporate text labels for the buttons as I am
not confident enough with the interface layout to start setting up
tags for buttons.
Best,
Kevin

On 7/19/15, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
> If the buttons have hints, can one not label with VO+slash? Not ideal, and
> certainly we want the dev to fix it, but...?
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>> On Jul 19, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Matthew Janusauskas 
>> wrote:
>>
>> While the Sonos controller for Mac does have accessibility hints on many
>> of the controlls that are helpful when using VoiceOver most of the buttons
>> and controlls do not actually have text labels which makes it not very
>> efficient or enjoyable to use unfortunately. Hopefully this will be
>> improved in the future.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 7:04 AM, jeff `greene 
>> wrote:
>> Hi Kevin, I used to use the sonos controller on the mac but found it
>> annoying. I installed it then used it to add my audio book library to
>> it. Then, I used the iphone sonos app to play my audio book library on
>> the sonos. The one problem I had was the sonos app on the mac kept
>> trying to send all audio to the sonos speaker even when it was powered
>> off.
>> HTH Jeff
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/15, Kevin White  wrote:
>> > Hi there,
>> > I'm relatively new to the Mac, and am wondering if I will be able to
>> > use the Sonos controller app with voiceover. I already use it mostly
>> > on my phone, but I'd like to be able to add my Mac's music library.
>> > Thanks in Advance for any tips, guidance, or advice.
>> > Kevin
>> > Twitter: www.twitter.com/RVAMaverick
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Question about safari

[gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net]

Hello,

I entered Safari and I hit VO u to see all the links. So far it’s the only 
thing I know to do in Safari. I understand that there are other commands to see 
all the lists, tables, etc. My question is: in Windows I can see links, tables, 
buttons, etc. altogether. Is it possible to see the same in the mac? To see all 
the links, etc. only is optional?
Thank you,
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Re: Question about safari

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

yes, there's a settings on the voice over utility, go to web > page loading 
then check speak web page summary
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> Hello,
>  
> I entered Safari and I hit VO u to see all the links. So far it’s the only 
> thing I know to do in Safari. I understand that there are other commands to 
> see all the lists, tables, etc. My question is: in Windows I can see links, 
> tables, buttons, etc. altogether. Is it possible to see the same in the mac? 
> To see all the links, etc. only is optional?
> Thank you,
> Rena
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VoiceOver loses track of text and of line boundaries in MS-Word 2016

[Jason White]

Has anyone else on the list seen the following?

Typically after moving from page 1 to page 2 of a multi-page document in 
MS-Word 2016 for Mac (both beta versions and now in the release), VoiceOver 
starts reading only parts of lines rather than entire lines. The braille 
display also shows lines being broken up incorrectly. When Command-Left-Arrow 
is used to move to the start of the line, the cursor is often placed in the 
middle of the braille line, showing that VoiceOver is getting incorrect 
information about where lines start and end. This makes it almost  impossible 
to read and edit text.

I haven’t been able to track down any specific situation that causes the 
problem though.

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Re: VoiceOver loses track of text and of line boundaries in MS-Word 2016

[Krister Ekstrom]

I know this doesn’t help you much and i’m sorry about that, but i can say 
you’re lucky to have at least parts of a line read in MS Word 2016. I get only 
one character at a time if i’m lucky and the occasional font and attribute 
change but apart from that, nothing more.
I don’t know what gives here.
/Krister

> 20 juli 2015 kl. 15:41 skrev Jason White :
> 
> Has anyone else on the list seen the following?
> 
> Typically after moving from page 1 to page 2 of a multi-page document in 
> MS-Word 2016 for Mac (both beta versions and now in the release), VoiceOver 
> starts reading only parts of lines rather than entire lines. The braille 
> display also shows lines being broken up incorrectly. When Command-Left-Arrow 
> is used to move to the start of the line, the cursor is often placed in the 
> middle of the braille line, showing that VoiceOver is getting incorrect 
> information about where lines start and end. This makes it almost  impossible 
> to read and edit text.
> 
> I haven’t been able to track down any specific situation that causes the 
> problem though.
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Re: siri's sense of humor, and ability to..?

[Jessica Moss]

Oh really? Where do you go to do that?  I didn't see that option, but suppose I 
never really looked for it either sense I didn't really look under the settings 
too much lol.
On Jul 18, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> If you download the enhanced version of those voices, the quality improves 
> dramatically.
> 
> Later
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 18, 2015, at 09:13, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I finally checked that out last night, and thought the British voice was ok, 
> but was disappointed that most of the other voices weren't as high-quality 
> sounding, the British voice being one of them.
> 
> On Jul 17, 2015, at 6:07 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
>> Oh yes, there is more than one man.
>> Here is hoping the ability to nuance comes in the next incarnation.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2015, Jessica Moss wrote:
>> 
>>> There's more than 1 male voice now?  I had now idea; will have to check 
>>> that out.
>>> I love the American voice but would like to see what else is available too.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 16, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
 wrote:
 
 Karen,
 You can have a male Siri if you like, it’s in the choices under Siri in 
 settings. I have a nice Brit gentleman, for instance, instead of the 
 snotty American version!  lol
 hth,
 Caitlyn(not Genner, btw! another lol)
 
> On Jul 15, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Karen Lewellen  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> as to the first question, I understand she? had no idea she is a girl, 
> has an amusing answer to  questions like... what's zero divided by zero?"
> if noone has tried it, I will not spoil the fun.
> I understand too that she will correct anyone  seeking physical 
> information about Bruce Jenner.
> The other half of my question has to do with nuance.
> I recently visited an apple store to learn  if the ios voices could be 
> nuanced the way mac voices can.  I was dismayed that while you can speed 
> the voice up and slow it down, you cannot  improve the over all 
> quality..but I did not try Siri  at all.
> I was working with an ipad, not a phone.
> so can she be improved?
> I may need to check her out, I tend to prefer a guy's voice talking in my 
> ear even on my computer lol.
> Still  it might be the difference between ever using an ios device as is 
> the case now, and considering an iphone for non phone tasks.
> Thanks,
> Karen
 
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Re: DirectvGenieGo

[Jessica Moss]

Join the club, I don't have $100 to spend on anything if it's not a must-have.
On Jul 18, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

> I can rewind record, fastforward using iphone remote. I cannot find the 
> showes i’ve recorded using iphone app. If you buy the 100 add in, that hooks 
> to your router, you can use the mac and iphone apps to trasfer stuff to your 
> pc or mac. I don’t know if it is accessible, and do not want to drop $100 to 
> findout.
>> On Jul 18, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> I can't figure out how to do much with it wither, which is disturbing, 
>> considering you can do tons of stuff with the remote itself, and I'd love to 
>> be more independent with it myself sense Mom and I both record shows, 
>> especially for Hannah, who can't read yet, and would love to be able to find 
>> them quickly without having to rely on sighted assistance to find something 
>> for one of us to watch.  I thought the "remote," feature within the app 
>> itself would let me do that, but all it seems to do is control the buttons 
>> that the remote would use, and allow me to rewind/fast forward a show, which 
>> of course, may not work in all cases, depending on how far into the show you 
>> are.
>> 
>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I cannot figure out how to play shows ou’ve recorded with the directv app.
 On Jul 15, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Jessica Moss  
 wrote:
 
 Didn't know there was an app for that lol, would love to check it out 
 though.  We have the service, but just I just used the features through 
 the directTV app itself, which at times was a nightmare, so would love to 
 see what this can do.
 
 On Jul 14, 2015, at 4:20 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
  wrote:
 
> Hi guys:
> Has anyone used the Directv GenietoGo app for Mac and iOS devices? Is it 
> accessible to stream/transfer recordings?
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Re: Question about safari

[Phil Halton]

Hello Grace, what you are referring to is called the item chooser. You activate 
it with VO plus I. That will give a listing of every element on the page be a 
static text links, tables, buttons, etc.

Sent from my IPhone


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> 
> Hello,
>  
> I entered Safari and I hit VO u to see all the links. So far it’s the only 
> thing I know to do in Safari. I understand that there are other commands to 
> see all the lists, tables, etc. My question is: in Windows I can see links, 
> tables, buttons, etc. altogether. Is it possible to see the same in the mac? 
> To see all the links, etc. only is optional?
> Thank you,
> Rena
>  
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> Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal
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Re: VoiceOver loses track of text and of line boundaries in MS-Word 2016

[Andrew Lamanche]

I’m not sure whether it’s going to be valid for MS Word but have you tried to 
play around in preferences with options to do with wrapping?  In textEdit 
wrapping to window option has to be selected for Voiceover to read beyond the 
first page correctly.  Also, have you tried draft view or edit view to see 
whether setting this in the View menu might helP?
> On 20 Jul 2015, at 14:41, Jason White  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone else on the list seen the following?
> 
> Typically after moving from page 1 to page 2 of a multi-page document in 
> MS-Word 2016 for Mac (both beta versions and now in the release), VoiceOver 
> starts reading only parts of lines rather than entire lines. The braille 
> display also shows lines being broken up incorrectly. When Command-Left-Arrow 
> is used to move to the start of the line, the cursor is often placed in the 
> middle of the braille line, showing that VoiceOver is getting incorrect 
> information about where lines start and end. This makes it almost  impossible 
> to read and edit text.
> 
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> problem though.
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Re: VoiceOver loses track of text and of line boundaries in MS-Word 2016

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hmm, i for my part haven’t tried the preferences, maybe that’s a good idea 
there. Don’t think the different layouts did anything to make things better. 
Will check again.
/Krister

> 20 juli 2015 kl. 16:37 skrev Andrew Lamanche :
> 
> I’m not sure whether it’s going to be valid for MS Word but have you tried to 
> play around in preferences with options to do with wrapping?  In textEdit 
> wrapping to window option has to be selected for Voiceover to read beyond the 
> first page correctly.  Also, have you tried draft view or edit view to see 
> whether setting this in the View menu might helP?
>> On 20 Jul 2015, at 14:41, Jason White  wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone else on the list seen the following?
>> 
>> Typically after moving from page 1 to page 2 of a multi-page document in 
>> MS-Word 2016 for Mac (both beta versions and now in the release), VoiceOver 
>> starts reading only parts of lines rather than entire lines. The braille 
>> display also shows lines being broken up incorrectly. When 
>> Command-Left-Arrow is used to move to the start of the line, the cursor is 
>> often placed in the middle of the braille line, showing that VoiceOver is 
>> getting incorrect information about where lines start and end. This makes it 
>> almost  impossible to read and edit text.
>> 
>> I haven’t been able to track down any specific situation that causes the 
>> problem though.
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Re: Question about safari

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hello Rena
The item that you are wanting to use is called the "Item Chooser"
You can access it with VO "Control+ Option" and I.
Hope this helps.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
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Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
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On Jul 20, 2015, at 09:10, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net 
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Hello,
 
I entered Safari and I hit VO u to see all the links. So far it’s the only 
thing I know to do in Safari. I understand that there are other commands to see 
all the lists, tables, etc. My question is: in Windows I can see links, tables, 
buttons, etc. altogether. Is it possible to see the same in the mac? To see all 
the links, etc. only is optional?
Thank you,
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Re: VoiceOver loses track of text and of line boundaries in MS-Word 2016

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Krister,

I've just opened MS Word, and pasted a 3 page text into a blank document to 
double-check the behaviour.  I was able to read the document without any 
problems using voiceover.  Under "view" I have print layout checked and in 
preferences under "view" tab I have wrap to window checked.  I also chose to 
use classic look of MS Word.

Hope this might help.

Andrew
> On 20 Jul 2015, at 15:41, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> Hmm, i for my part haven’t tried the preferences, maybe that’s a good idea 
> there. Don’t think the different layouts did anything to make things better. 
> Will check again.
> /Krister
> 
>> 20 juli 2015 kl. 16:37 skrev Andrew Lamanche :
>> 
>> I’m not sure whether it’s going to be valid for MS Word but have you tried 
>> to play around in preferences with options to do with wrapping?  In textEdit 
>> wrapping to window option has to be selected for Voiceover to read beyond 
>> the first page correctly.  Also, have you tried draft view or edit view to 
>> see whether setting this in the View menu might helP?
>>> On 20 Jul 2015, at 14:41, Jason White  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else on the list seen the following?
>>> 
>>> Typically after moving from page 1 to page 2 of a multi-page document in 
>>> MS-Word 2016 for Mac (both beta versions and now in the release), VoiceOver 
>>> starts reading only parts of lines rather than entire lines. The braille 
>>> display also shows lines being broken up incorrectly. When 
>>> Command-Left-Arrow is used to move to the start of the line, the cursor is 
>>> often placed in the middle of the braille line, showing that VoiceOver is 
>>> getting incorrect information about where lines start and end. This makes 
>>> it almost  impossible to read and edit text.
>>> 
>>> I haven’t been able to track down any specific situation that causes the 
>>> problem though.
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Is there a way to extract text from a JPG file on the Mac?

[Donna Goodin]

Question says it all.  If anyone knows of a way to do this, I'd really 
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Re: Sonos Controler.

[Matthew Janusauskas]

Sonos does seem to be quite receptive and responsive to accessibility
concerns. The more people that contact them directly about it the more
likely they are to address the concerns in an upcoming software update.


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> Thanks for the information. I've played with it some, and while it is
> not an ideal situation for controlling the Sonos playback experience,
> I find that it does meet my needs for basic music library management.
> I hope that the devs incorporate text labels for the buttons as I am
> not confident enough with the interface layout to start setting up
> tags for buttons.
> Best,
> Kevin
>
> On 7/19/15, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
> > If the buttons have hints, can one not label with VO+slash? Not ideal,
> and
> > certainly we want the dev to fix it, but...?
> >
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> > Phone: 814-860-3194
> > Mobile: 814-431-0962
> > Email: bu...@brannan.name
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 19, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Matthew Janusauskas <
> mjanusaus...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> While the Sonos controller for Mac does have accessibility hints on many
> >> of the controlls that are helpful when using VoiceOver most of the
> buttons
> >> and controlls do not actually have text labels which makes it not very
> >> efficient or enjoyable to use unfortunately. Hopefully this will be
> >> improved in the future.
> >>
> >> Matthew
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 7:04 AM, jeff `greene 
> >> wrote:
> >> Hi Kevin, I used to use the sonos controller on the mac but found it
> >> annoying. I installed it then used it to add my audio book library to
> >> it. Then, I used the iphone sonos app to play my audio book library on
> >> the sonos. The one problem I had was the sonos app on the mac kept
> >> trying to send all audio to the sonos speaker even when it was powered
> >> off.
> >> HTH Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/19/15, Kevin White  wrote:
> >> > Hi there,
> >> > I'm relatively new to the Mac, and am wondering if I will be able to
> >> > use the Sonos controller app with voiceover. I already use it mostly
> >> > on my phone, but I'd like to be able to add my Mac's music library.
> >> > Thanks in Advance for any tips, guidance, or advice.
> >> > Kevin
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Re: Is there a way to extract text from a JPG file on the Mac?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Donna,


Via Fine Reader I would have thought.

Gena

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> Cheers,
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Re: VoiceOver loses track of text and of line boundaries in MS-Word 2016

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
I did the same and changed a few other changes and couldn’t for the life of me 
fathom why nothing happened to the text, it was read in the same way. However 
in the back of my head i had a thought that i have seen this behaviour before 
in MS Word for Windows and it had to do with the zoom factor. I tried changing 
it either to a higher or a lower degree, to no avail. Then my computer crashed 
on me and my Voiceover voices were gone so i started over by means of a reboot. 
When everything was up and running i noticed that Word had started up in the 
background and so i went in and had a look around and noticed the zoom slider 
was at about 20 percent. I adjusted it until it was at 0 percent and lo and 
behold, the text was readable again. So without knowing if i am right or wrong 
i’ll say that if you have trouble reading your documents and you only get 
occasional font changes and other atribute changes, try zooming the document to 
100 percent and see if something happens then.
/Krister

> 20 juli 2015 kl. 18:12 skrev Andrew Lamanche :
> 
> Hi Krister,
> 
> I've just opened MS Word, and pasted a 3 page text into a blank document to 
> double-check the behaviour.  I was able to read the document without any 
> problems using voiceover.  Under "view" I have print layout checked and in 
> preferences under "view" tab I have wrap to window checked.  I also chose to 
> use classic look of MS Word.
> 
> Hope this might help.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 20 Jul 2015, at 15:41, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm, i for my part haven’t tried the preferences, maybe that’s a good idea 
>> there. Don’t think the different layouts did anything to make things better. 
>> Will check again.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 20 juli 2015 kl. 16:37 skrev Andrew Lamanche :
>>> 
>>> I’m not sure whether it’s going to be valid for MS Word but have you tried 
>>> to play around in preferences with options to do with wrapping?  In 
>>> textEdit wrapping to window option has to be selected for Voiceover to read 
>>> beyond the first page correctly.  Also, have you tried draft view or edit 
>>> view to see whether setting this in the View menu might helP?
 On 20 Jul 2015, at 14:41, Jason White  wrote:
 
 Has anyone else on the list seen the following?
 
 Typically after moving from page 1 to page 2 of a multi-page document in 
 MS-Word 2016 for Mac (both beta versions and now in the release), 
 VoiceOver starts reading only parts of lines rather than entire lines. The 
 braille display also shows lines being broken up incorrectly. When 
 Command-Left-Arrow is used to move to the start of the line, the cursor is 
 often placed in the middle of the braille line, showing that VoiceOver is 
 getting incorrect information about where lines start and end. This makes 
 it almost  impossible to read and edit text.
 
 I haven’t been able to track down any specific situation that causes the 
 problem though.
 
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Re: Is there a way to extract text from a JPG file on the Mac?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Georgina,

Thanks.  I haven't used FineReader, so did not know that it could do that.  I 
have K1000 on my PC, and it cannot work with JPG files, so I didn't assume that 
FineReader could.  thanks for the tip.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> 
> Via Fine Reader I would have thought.
> 
> Gena
> 
>> On 20 Jul 2015, at 17:22, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Question says it all.  If anyone knows of a way to do this, I'd really 
>> appreciate the help.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna 
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Re: VoiceOver loses track of text and of line boundaries in MS-Word 2016

[Andrew Lamanche]

My zoom is also set to 100%.  
> On 20 Jul 2015, at 18:37, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I did the same and changed a few other changes and couldn’t for the life of 
> me fathom why nothing happened to the text, it was read in the same way. 
> However in the back of my head i had a thought that i have seen this 
> behaviour before in MS Word for Windows and it had to do with the zoom 
> factor. I tried changing it either to a higher or a lower degree, to no 
> avail. Then my computer crashed on me and my Voiceover voices were gone so i 
> started over by means of a reboot. When everything was up and running i 
> noticed that Word had started up in the background and so i went in and had a 
> look around and noticed the zoom slider was at about 20 percent. I adjusted 
> it until it was at 0 percent and lo and behold, the text was readable again. 
> So without knowing if i am right or wrong i’ll say that if you have trouble 
> reading your documents and you only get occasional font changes and other 
> atribute changes, try zooming the document to 100 percent and see if 
> something happens then.
> /Krister
> 
>> 20 juli 2015 kl. 18:12 skrev Andrew Lamanche :
>> 
>> Hi Krister,
>> 
>> I've just opened MS Word, and pasted a 3 page text into a blank document to 
>> double-check the behaviour.  I was able to read the document without any 
>> problems using voiceover.  Under "view" I have print layout checked and in 
>> preferences under "view" tab I have wrap to window checked.  I also chose to 
>> use classic look of MS Word.
>> 
>> Hope this might help.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 20 Jul 2015, at 15:41, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm, i for my part haven’t tried the preferences, maybe that’s a good idea 
>>> there. Don’t think the different layouts did anything to make things 
>>> better. Will check again.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
 20 juli 2015 kl. 16:37 skrev Andrew Lamanche :
 
 I’m not sure whether it’s going to be valid for MS Word but have you tried 
 to play around in preferences with options to do with wrapping?  In 
 textEdit wrapping to window option has to be selected for Voiceover to 
 read beyond the first page correctly.  Also, have you tried draft view or 
 edit view to see whether setting this in the View menu might helP?
> On 20 Jul 2015, at 14:41, Jason White  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone else on the list seen the following?
> 
> Typically after moving from page 1 to page 2 of a multi-page document in 
> MS-Word 2016 for Mac (both beta versions and now in the release), 
> VoiceOver starts reading only parts of lines rather than entire lines. 
> The braille display also shows lines being broken up incorrectly. When 
> Command-Left-Arrow is used to move to the start of the line, the cursor 
> is often placed in the middle of the braille line, showing that VoiceOver 
> is getting incorrect information about where lines start and end. This 
> makes it almost  impossible to read and edit text.
> 
> I haven’t been able to track down any specific situation that causes the 
> problem though.
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Re: Is there a way to extract text from a JPG file on the Mac?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Donna,

There’s also some free resources mentioned here..

http://computers.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-ocr-documents-online-with-abbyy-finereader--cms-20785


> On 20 Jul 2015, at 18:45, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Georgina,
> 
> Thanks.  I haven't used FineReader, so did not know that it could do that.  I 
> have K1000 on my PC, and it cannot work with JPG files, so I didn't assume 
> that FineReader could.  thanks for the tip.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> 
>> Via Fine Reader I would have thought.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>>> On 20 Jul 2015, at 17:22, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Question says it all.  If anyone knows of a way to do this, I'd really 
>>> appreciate the help.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna 
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Re: Question about safari

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Rena,

VO-u gives you lists of all the types of elements on the web page that you’ve 
chosen to show under Web Rotor in the VoiceOver Utility. Having done VO-u, you 
can go right or left to select the list you want.
To get the numbers of all the links, headings etc on the page, press VO-Shift-i 
for Web page statistics.

VO-i is the Item Chooser and can be used in any application to locate an item 
by typing a few letters.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 20 Jul 2015, at 15:10, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> I entered Safari and I hit VO u to see all the links. So far it’s the only 
> thing I know to do in Safari. I understand that there are other commands to 
> see all the lists, tables, etc. My question is: in Windows I can see links, 
> tables, buttons, etc. altogether. Is it possible to see the same in the mac? 
> To see all the links, etc. only is optional?
> Thank you,
> Rena
>  
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> Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal
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Re: Is there a way to extract text from a JPG file on the Mac?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Georgina,

thanks!  I've been meaning to install FineReader on my Mac, just hadn't gotten 
around to it.  Guess it's time to give it a try. :)
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jul 20, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
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> Hello Donna,
> 
> There’s also some free resources mentioned here..
> 
> http://computers.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-ocr-documents-online-with-abbyy-finereader--cms-20785
>  
> 
> 
> 
>> On 20 Jul 2015, at 18:45, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Georgina,
>> 
>> Thanks.  I haven't used FineReader, so did not know that it could do that.  
>> I have K1000 on my PC, and it cannot work with JPG files, so I didn't assume 
>> that FineReader could.  thanks for the tip.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Via Fine Reader I would have thought.
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
 On 20 Jul 2015, at 17:22, Donna Goodin >>> > wrote:
 
 Question says it all.  If anyone knows of a way to do this, I'd really 
 appreciate the help.
 Cheers,
 Donna 
 
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Re: Apple Music

[deedra waters]

I can’t help accept to agree with you about apple music compared to the others
 you can’t add artists to anything as far as i can tell it’s got to be added 
album by album

deedra waters
dee...@the-brannons.com



> On Jul 19, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> One good thing about Apple Music compare to the competition is that it plays 
> more albums from each artist. For example, Boz Scaggs song - Thanks To You 
> from the album - The Essential Boz Scaggs. A beautiful song. Can not play 
> this song in Deezer. Neither Tidal. There are more artists like Metallica. 
> This is a hugh advantage. Probably because of the drm in Apple Music.
> 
> Apple Music is more difficult to use than the competition. Go figure. Its 
> faster with Deezer to add artists in library for example.
> 
> Is there a favorite button hidden somewhere in iTunes and IOS music, that 
> adds artists in library after hitting the artist name after serch result for 
> the first time? So many commands before adding artist it looks like. Maybe 
> this will be fixed later. I am sure i saw some options settings somewhere in 
> iTunes Apple Music on mac, but it is gone, can’t find it again.
> 
> Take care
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Re: Question about safari

[gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net]

Anne, I’m confused. I read in a list of commands that VO u gives a lit of 
links. When I was in safari and I hit VO u, I saw only links. However, you say:
VO-u gives you lists of all the types of elements on the web page.
Perhaps I’m misunderstanding something.

http://www.greenpathtowellness.com/
Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal


From: Anne Robertson 
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 2:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Question about safari

Hello Rena,

VO-u gives you lists of all the types of elements on the web page that you’ve 
chosen to show under Web Rotor in the VoiceOver Utility. Having done VO-u, you 
can go right or left to select the list you want.
To get the numbers of all the links, headings etc on the page, press VO-Shift-i 
for Web page statistics.

VO-i is the Item Chooser and can be used in any application to locate an item 
by typing a few letters.

Cheers,

Anne


  On 20 Jul 2015, at 15:10, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net 
 wrote:

  Hello,

  I entered Safari and I hit VO u to see all the links. So far it’s the only 
thing I know to do in Safari. I understand that there are other commands to see 
all the lists, tables, etc. My question is: in Windows I can see links, tables, 
buttons, etc. altogether. Is it possible to see the same in the mac? To see all 
the links, etc. only is optional?
  Thank you,
  Rena

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Re: Apple Music

[Joshua Tubbs]

If I may ask, what is Deezer? Never heard of it.

> On Jul 20, 2015, at 2:51 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
> 
> I can’t help accept to agree with you about apple music compared to the others
> you can’t add artists to anything as far as i can tell it’s got to be added 
> album by album
> 
> deedra waters
> dee...@the-brannons.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 19, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> One good thing about Apple Music compare to the competition is that it plays 
>> more albums from each artist. For example, Boz Scaggs song - Thanks To You 
>> from the album - The Essential Boz Scaggs. A beautiful song. Can not play 
>> this song in Deezer. Neither Tidal. There are more artists like Metallica. 
>> This is a hugh advantage. Probably because of the drm in Apple Music.
>> 
>> Apple Music is more difficult to use than the competition. Go figure. Its 
>> faster with Deezer to add artists in library for example.
>> 
>> Is there a favorite button hidden somewhere in iTunes and IOS music, that 
>> adds artists in library after hitting the artist name after serch result for 
>> the first time? So many commands before adding artist it looks like. Maybe 
>> this will be fixed later. I am sure i saw some options settings somewhere in 
>> iTunes Apple Music on mac, but it is gone, can’t find it again.
>> 
>> Take care
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Re: VoiceOver loses track of text and of line boundaries in MS-Word 2016

[Jason White]

Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> I’m not sure whether it’s going to be valid for MS Word but have you tried
> to play around in preferences with options to do with wrapping?  In textEdit
> wrapping to window option has to be selected for Voiceover to read beyond
> the first page correctly.  

I tried Window -> Zoom, which didn't help. I'll check for any other likely
candidates though - thanks for the suggestion.

> Also, have you tried draft view or edit view to
> see whether setting this in the View menu might helP?

Microsoft's own help topic on accessibility says that only print layout view
is supported in VoiceOver. They actually say that other views are not
"optmized" and there is still work to do, but I think you can take it as
meaning the same as "unsupported" and "has serious, known bugs".

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Re: Is there a way to extract text from a JPG file on the Mac?

[Jason White]

Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> Via Fine Reader I would have thought.

Or you could install Tesseract. I'm sure someone has a package for it that
runs under OS X.

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Re: VoiceOver loses track of text and of line boundaries in MS-Word 2016

[Jason White]

Quick update: I reset options that appeared potentially relevant, including a
"markup" option that had somehow been turned on. Now, I am able to read
through the same document that was causing trouble earlier without any
spurious line fragmentation issues.

Let's see what happens when editing is done. I'll keep experimenting.

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Re: Apple Music

[Terje Strømberg]

Deezer is the same type of streaming app like Apple Music and Spotify. Not for 
mac though. IOS and Android and Sonos and probably other streaming hardware 
devices.Can stream lossless cd quality if you subscribe for that. Seems to work 
very well with voice over on IOS devices. If the Sonos app for mac had been 
more accessible with voice over, many could use it on mac via Sonos connect 
streaming box.

Take care

21. juli 2015 kl. 00:10 skrev Joshua Tubbs :

If I may ask, what is Deezer? Never heard of it.

> On Jul 20, 2015, at 2:51 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
> 
> I can’t help accept to agree with you about apple music compared to the others
> you can’t add artists to anything as far as i can tell it’s got to be added 
> album by album
> 
> deedra waters
> dee...@the-brannons.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 19, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> One good thing about Apple Music compare to the competition is that it plays 
>> more albums from each artist. For example, Boz Scaggs song - Thanks To You 
>> from the album - The Essential Boz Scaggs. A beautiful song. Can not play 
>> this song in Deezer. Neither Tidal. There are more artists like Metallica. 
>> This is a hugh advantage. Probably because of the drm in Apple Music.
>> 
>> Apple Music is more difficult to use than the competition. Go figure. Its 
>> faster with Deezer to add artists in library for example.
>> 
>> Is there a favorite button hidden somewhere in iTunes and IOS music, that 
>> adds artists in library after hitting the artist name after serch result for 
>> the first time? So many commands before adding artist it looks like. Maybe 
>> this will be fixed later. I am sure i saw some options settings somewhere in 
>> iTunes Apple Music on mac, but it is gone, can’t find it again.
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
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Re: DirectvGenieGo

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I don’t have the little genie go thingy that plugs in the router, go download 
genie go app from Directv.
Let me know if you have any luck!
> On Jul 15, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Didn't know there was an app for that lol, would love to check it out though. 
>  We have the service, but just I just used the features through the directTV 
> app itself, which at times was a nightmare, so would love to see what this 
> can do.
> 
> On Jul 14, 2015, at 4:20 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys:
>> Has anyone used the Directv GenietoGo app for Mac and iOS devices? Is it 
>> accessible to stream/transfer recordings?
>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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