Re: biblical greek on the mac

2015-07-16 Thread Devin Prater
Wouldn’t the Greek voices work with classical Greek as well?
> On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:36 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> On my mac, I use Greek Braille tables with my refreshable Braille display and 
> the table is in grade 1 Braille so I didn't have to learn much in order to 
> read.  I have very little experience of the Greek grade 2 Braille as i have 
> no access to their Braille paper literature.  On the mac side, you can choose 
> Greek Braille table in Voiceover utility under the Braille tab.  
> Incidentally, the Greek table on the mac also works fine for English so I 
> don't have to switch Braille tables all the time.  I just have the table set 
> to Greek and it works for both English and Greek.
> 
> Hope things are going to work out for you.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Andrew
>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:35, Brian Howerton  wrote:
>> 
>> No problem Andrew.  That definitely helps though.  Right now I am digging in 
>> to a greek text in braille.  I am very overwhelmed by the greek braille 
>> code.  I wish there was a supplemental greek braille code manual that I 
>> could use while trying to learn Greek.  Right now, I am struggling trying to 
>> understand how the greek braille code works.
>> Brian
>>> On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brian,
>>> 
>>> I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because:
>>> 1.  AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very 
>>> good, 
>>> 2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos.  Mac also has 
>>> a modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard which you 
>>> can add to your keyboards.
>>> 
>>> You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly.
>>> 
>>> I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these 
>>> voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not 
>>> recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above.  But do 
>>> check it out yourself.  you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the 
>>> selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and 
>>> confirm this.  I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical text 
>>> from somebody.
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry not to have better news for you.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton  wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I am trying to teach myself new testament greek.  I was wondering if 
 anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover.  
 Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as 
 pronunciations and things like that.  Thanks,
 Brian
 
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Re: VM insert key on OSX tutorial

2015-07-16 Thread 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries
Hi,   yes handy thanks.
> On 15 Jul 2015, at 21:32, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Marco Zehe from Mozilla wrote up his solution to getting the caps lock key to 
> act as both the VO keys on OSX and the Insert key when running VMWare with 
> Windows and Jaws or NVDA. This seems to come up pretty often so hopefully 
> folks can keep this link around and just paste it into the message thread 
> whenever it comes up rather than re-writing instructions every time. Not sure 
> I would bother with the VO remap part but at least you'd have one key for 
> both sides.
> 
> https://www.marcozehe.de/2015/06/07/how-to-map-your-macs-capslock-key-to-a-nvda-or-jaws-key-in-a-windows-virtual-machine/
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Re: Apple TV Connection Question

2015-07-16 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I have my apple tv connected via a digital to analog converter to my stereo and 
without tv.
Works like a charm.
/A
> 15 juli 2015 kl. 21:16 skrev Tim Kilburn :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For this Tim, I have a Harman Kardon Receiver with HDMI inputs, and HDMI 
> going out to the TV.  The TV does not need to be on when I am listening to 
> music and I've even had the TV set to the incorrect input on occasion and the 
> Apple TV still sends the audio to the receiver.  Not sure if having the TV 
> makes a difference, but I doubt it.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 15, 2015, at 12:04, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> what is the setup you have going out of the optical? I was under the 
> impression the Apple TV only had a power cord and cdmi out, so not sure what 
> you guys are talking about optically? The sound bar I am looking at is the 
> Wilton Sound Bar with Bluetooth sold on Amazon as it has a ton of input and 
> outputs, and I think the only thing I would be using would be the volume so 
> once I figure that out would not need sighted assistance to work it, the 
> amazon ad mentions it works with gaming stuff but does not mention the Apple 
> TV, here is the link if anyone wants to take a look at it. Thanks for all the 
> feedback 
> http://www.amazon.com/Wilton-SBHD210-Bluetooth-Soundbar-Surround/dp/B00XO50TSG
>  
>> On Jul 15, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
>> 
>> This is the setup I have, and it’s beautiful. Also, if I want to listen to 
>> iTunes Radio which will soon become apple Music, I don’t have to turn the tv 
>> on, I can run it just through the Bar and it’s nice. Hope you can get it to 
>> work for you. 
>>> On Jul 14, 2015, at 8:28 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, so it looks like if you want a soundbar, your best bet would be to go 
>>> optical out of the Apple TV, to Opbical in on the soundbar.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 8:29 PM
>>> Subject: Apple TV Connection Question
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am finally thinking about getting an Apple TV, but am curious as I know 
>>> you have to connect it via HDMI, but am curious can I buy a Sound Bar home 
>>> receiver that has an HDMI input and then use the Apple TV without a TV? 
>>> Thanks, curious if you just need any receiver with a HDMI input.
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Re: siri's sense of humor, and ability to..?

2015-07-16 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
You’re lucky because  there is at least one mail voice for siri.
This is for english of course.
Swedish  users has to stand the crappy alva voice.
/A
> 16 juli 2015 kl. 05:46 skrev Karen Lewellen :
> 
> Hi folks,
> as to the first question, I understand she? had no idea she is a girl, has an 
> amusing answer to  questions like... what's zero divided by zero?"
> if noone has tried it, I will not spoil the fun.
> I understand too that she will correct anyone  seeking physical information 
> about Bruce Jenner.
> The other half of my question has to do with nuance.
> I recently visited an apple store to learn  if the ios voices could be 
> nuanced the way mac voices can.  I was dismayed that while you can speed the 
> voice up and slow it down, you cannot  improve the over all quality..but I 
> did not try Siri  at all.
> I was working with an ipad, not a phone.
> so can she be improved?
> I may need to check her out, I tend to prefer a guy's voice talking in my ear 
> even on my computer lol.
> Still  it might be the difference between ever using an ios device as is the 
> case now, and considering an iphone for non phone tasks.
> Thanks,
> Karen
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

2015-07-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Krister,

I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my MacBook 
Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact with the 
document layout area and then with the text and the up and down arrow keys work 
fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text pointer are not in the 
same place despite the fact that I have them following each other. The mouse is 
somewhere else again!
I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking at 
has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, and VO 
says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I go to the 
Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..

Cheers,

Anne


> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> Hi there.
> I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
> try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
> only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
> cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
> the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
> vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but when i 
> try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is read.
> I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
> obvious thing im i missing?
> Anyone else come across this?
> /Krister
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Re: garage band

2015-07-16 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Audacity can be used with voiceover on the mac.
So you better try that out too.
/A
> 16 juli 2015 kl. 08:42 skrev 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Juan.
> Amadeus Pro allows you to edit almost any AudioFileFormat in a quite 
> accessible way.
> Garageband, on the other hand, as far as I know doesn't allow to edit so 
> easily and I've strong dubts about its accessibility, unfortunately.
> Gabriel.
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

2015-07-16 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, this is the strange thing, it worked fine until a couple betas ago. Now if 
i interact only with the layout area VO can sometimes read one letter of a word 
and then is silent. If i interact with the text, nothing whatsoever is spoken 
except for the occational font- and size change, nothing more.
/Krister

> 16 juli 2015 kl. 13:38 skrev Anne Robertson :
> 
> Hello Krister,
> 
> I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my MacBook 
> Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact with the 
> document layout area and then with the text and the up and down arrow keys 
> work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text pointer are not 
> in the same place despite the fact that I have them following each other. The 
> mouse is somewhere else again!
> I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking 
> at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, and 
> VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I go to 
> the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there.
>> I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
>> try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
>> only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
>> cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
>> the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
>> vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but when 
>> i try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is read.
>> I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
>> obvious thing im i missing?
>> Anyone else come across this?
>> /Krister
>> 
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Re: siri's sense of humor, and ability to..?

2015-07-16 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Even though I'm in the states I have my voice set to the male UK English 
just because I find it more intelligible through the little speakers.


Ask siri about the three laws or robotics or how much wood could a wood 
chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood :)


CB

On 7/16/15 7:12 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
You’re lucky because  there is at least one mail voice for siri.
This is for english of course.
Swedish  users has to stand the crappy alva voice.
/A

16 juli 2015 kl. 05:46 skrev Karen Lewellen :

Hi folks,
as to the first question, I understand she? had no idea she is a girl, has an 
amusing answer to  questions like... what's zero divided by zero?"
if noone has tried it, I will not spoil the fun.
I understand too that she will correct anyone  seeking physical information 
about Bruce Jenner.
The other half of my question has to do with nuance.
I recently visited an apple store to learn  if the ios voices could be nuanced 
the way mac voices can.  I was dismayed that while you can speed the voice up 
and slow it down, you cannot  improve the over all quality..but I did not try 
Siri  at all.
I was working with an ipad, not a phone.
so can she be improved?
I may need to check her out, I tend to prefer a guy's voice talking in my ear 
even on my computer lol.
Still  it might be the difference between ever using an ios device as is the 
case now, and considering an iphone for non phone tasks.
Thanks,
Karen



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Re: biblical greek on the mac

2015-07-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Brian,

Ben called last night and left you a voicemail, so hopefully you and him can 
hook up.  He's quite confident he can help you out.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Lamanche" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: biblical greek on the mac


Hi Brian,

On my mac, I use Greek Braille tables with my refreshable Braille display 
and the table is in grade 1 Braille so I didn't have to learn much in order 
to read.  I have very little experience of the Greek grade 2 Braille as i 
have no access to their Braille paper literature.  On the mac side, you can 
choose Greek Braille table in Voiceover utility under the Braille tab. 
Incidentally, the Greek table on the mac also works fine for English so I 
don't have to switch Braille tables all the time.  I just have the table set 
to Greek and it works for both English and Greek.


Hope things are going to work out for you.

Best wishes

Andrew

On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:35, Brian Howerton  wrote:

No problem Andrew.  That definitely helps though.  Right now I am digging 
in to a greek text in braille.  I am very overwhelmed by the greek braille 
code.  I wish there was a supplemental greek braille code manual that I 
could use while trying to learn Greek.  Right now, I am struggling trying 
to understand how the greek braille code works.

Brian

On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

Hi Brian,

I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because:
1.  AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very 
good,
2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos.  Mac also 
has a modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard 
which you can add to your keyboards.


You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly.

I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these 
voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not 
recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above.  But do 
check it out yourself.  you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the 
selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and 
confirm this.  I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical 
text from somebody.


I'm sorry not to have better news for you.

Andrew

On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton  wrote:

Hello all,
I am trying to teach myself new testament greek.  I was wondering if 
anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with 
voiceover.  Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover 
as far as pronunciations and things like that.  Thanks,

Brian

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Re: garage band

2015-07-16 Thread Alex Hall
Audacity is very accessible, once you learn it. I use it for all my editing, 
and aside from one bug, it works well.
> On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:02 AM, Juan Hernandez  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I need to last minute audio editing for a project.  I saw on apples that 
> audacity is not accessible.  I was reading on the internet that one can edit 
> audio files with GarageBand.  I see the only to open your audio file in gb is 
> to drag and drop it.  I see no other open method.
> 
> I want to buy amadeus pro, but that’ll have to weight until I have money on 
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Re: biblical greek on the mac

2015-07-16 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Hi Brian,

If you manage to have the problem solved, would you mind writing me off-list to 
share how you and Ben have achieved this?  I may need Ancient Greek at some 
point as well.

Thanks and good luck

Andrew
> On 16 Jul 2015, at 15:27, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Brian,
> 
> Ben called last night and left you a voicemail, so hopefully you and him can 
> hook up.  He's quite confident he can help you out.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Andrew Lamanche" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 2:36 AM
> Subject: Re: biblical greek on the mac
> 
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> On my mac, I use Greek Braille tables with my refreshable Braille display and 
> the table is in grade 1 Braille so I didn't have to learn much in order to 
> read.  I have very little experience of the Greek grade 2 Braille as i have 
> no access to their Braille paper literature.  On the mac side, you can choose 
> Greek Braille table in Voiceover utility under the Braille tab. Incidentally, 
> the Greek table on the mac also works fine for English so I don't have to 
> switch Braille tables all the time.  I just have the table set to Greek and 
> it works for both English and Greek.
> 
> Hope things are going to work out for you.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Andrew
>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:35, Brian Howerton  wrote:
>> 
>> No problem Andrew.  That definitely helps though.  Right now I am digging in 
>> to a greek text in braille.  I am very overwhelmed by the greek braille 
>> code.  I wish there was a supplemental greek braille code manual that I 
>> could use while trying to learn Greek.  Right now, I am struggling trying to 
>> understand how the greek braille code works.
>> Brian
>>> On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brian,
>>> 
>>> I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because:
>>> 1.  AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very good,
>>> 2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos.  Mac also has 
>>> a modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard which you 
>>> can add to your keyboards.
>>> 
>>> You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly.
>>> 
>>> I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these 
>>> voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not 
>>> recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above.  But do 
>>> check it out yourself.  you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the 
>>> selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and 
>>> confirm this.  I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical text 
>>> from somebody.
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry not to have better news for you.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton  wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I am trying to teach myself new testament greek.  I was wondering if 
 anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover.  
 Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as 
 pronunciations and things like that.  Thanks,
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Re: biblical greek on the mac

2015-07-16 Thread Andrew Lamanche
No, they don’t although it would seem logical.  and that’s because classical 
Greek has different or rather more numerous marks over the letters which 
Voiceover doesn’t interpret in speech.  It just ignores them.
> On 16 Jul 2015, at 09:09, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Wouldn’t the Greek voices work with classical Greek as well?
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:36 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brian,
>> 
>> On my mac, I use Greek Braille tables with my refreshable Braille display 
>> and the table is in grade 1 Braille so I didn't have to learn much in order 
>> to read.  I have very little experience of the Greek grade 2 Braille as i 
>> have no access to their Braille paper literature.  On the mac side, you can 
>> choose Greek Braille table in Voiceover utility under the Braille tab.  
>> Incidentally, the Greek table on the mac also works fine for English so I 
>> don't have to switch Braille tables all the time.  I just have the table set 
>> to Greek and it works for both English and Greek.
>> 
>> Hope things are going to work out for you.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:35, Brian Howerton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No problem Andrew.  That definitely helps though.  Right now I am digging 
>>> in to a greek text in braille.  I am very overwhelmed by the greek braille 
>>> code.  I wish there was a supplemental greek braille code manual that I 
>>> could use while trying to learn Greek.  Right now, I am struggling trying 
>>> to understand how the greek braille code works.
>>> Brian
 On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 
 I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because:
 1.  AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very 
 good, 
 2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos.  Mac also has 
 a modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard which you 
 can add to your keyboards.
 
 You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly.
 
 I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these 
 voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not 
 recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above.  But do 
 check it out yourself.  you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the 
 selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and 
 confirm this.  I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical 
 text from somebody.
 
 I'm sorry not to have better news for you.
 
 Andrew
> On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I am trying to teach myself new testament greek.  I was wondering if 
> anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover. 
>  Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as 
> pronunciations and things like that.  Thanks,
> Brian
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Re: Amazon Fire TV Accessibility

2015-07-16 Thread Jessica Moss
Ok, still a little confused on that front; what does cromecast do that apple TV 
doesn't, and vise-versa?
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>> On 14 Jul 2015, at 13:43, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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>> Ok, what exactly is the difference between that, apple TV, and something a 
>> friend recommended I get called cromecast?
>> On Jul 13, 2015, at 7:25 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>>> Interesting, Rick. I assume, that since this is specifically related to the 
>>> instant video app, that there isn't any way to use voice search on other 
>>> fire TV channels. It's a good start. But clearly, the answer would be to 
>>> make the app accessible so that we could use all the channels.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 13, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Rick Alfaro  wrote:
 
 Mary and others:
 
 Brent Harbolt from www.harboltcompany.com posted a short podcast on a work 
 around for using the Fire TV in conjuction with the IOS Instant Video app. 
 Basically, you find the movie you want in the Instant Video app then do a 
 voice search for it on the Fire TV. It isn't ideal but it does make the 
 Fire TV somewhat useable. In the podcast he goes over it step by step, 
 informing you what to do and how to use the Fire TV remote to accomplish 
 this. I've taken the liberty of uploading this to SendSpace, hope he 
 doesn't mind. (lol)
 
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 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
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 Subject: Re: Amazon Fire TV Accessibility
 
 Hi Kevin,
 Thank you for your good efforts. Frankly, I wish they would just make the 
 apps for these things really accessible to the screen reader of choice, 
 rather than trying to build some kludgy nonsense into the fire TV etc. I 
 have a Kindle fire HD, and I was so dissatisfied with it that I gave it to 
 my husband
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 13, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Kevin Shaw  wrote:
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> Hi Mary,
> 
> No, I don’t know anyone on the Echo team, but my friend tells me it’s not 
> hard to get the message across to the right people. I’ve already told her 
> the “community” is hating on Amazon products for lack of screen reader 
> accessibility.
> 
> My friend has worked on some motor accessibility stuff for Fire TV, so 
> it’s not a far leap to get them to put a screen reader on it. 
> 
> I suggested they take the screen readers from the Fire Phones and put 
> them into the Fire TVs, but the Fire Phones are all being used to prop up 
> wobbly desks and chairs at Amazon. Only kidding.
> 
> Will keep you guys in the loop.
> Kevin
>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Good, Kevin. I hope something comes of it. You don't happen to know 
>> anybody on the Amazon echo team do you? It seems that requests from 
>> ordinary echo users don't do any good, as the updates they release do 
>> not help. The iPhone app remains a loser. The website is barely usable 
>> in my opinion and not usable and that of some others I know.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 8:31 PM, Kevin Shaw  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A friend of mine is a software engineer on the Fire TV team at Amazon. 
>>> I’ve told her about the discussions on this list around the Fire TV 
>>> iPhone app being inaccessible to VO users and she’s given me her 
>>> promise that she will bring it up with the dev team. 
>>> Kevin
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how to copy contacts from one account to another?

2015-07-16 Thread Joe Quinn
I've got contacts that I accidentally created under my gmail account, but want 
to transfer them to my iclouth account, without having to reenter everything 
into the contacts app under my icloud account. I'm sure there's a way to do 
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

2015-07-16 Thread eileen . misrahi

Hi There,

I hope I'm not hijacking this thread too much. I was a beta tester for Office 
for the Mac. I don't have Office 365 that is offering the new version. My 
question is: Does the beta still work or will I need to wait when the Office 
product is released in the fall to use it again on the Mac? I did open Word, 
interacted with the document, but no text was inputted there. That's why I'm 
replying to this thread.

Thanks.

Warmest regards,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:47 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, this is the strange thing, it worked fine until a couple betas ago. Now 
> if i interact only with the layout area VO can sometimes read one letter of a 
> word and then is silent. If i interact with the text, nothing whatsoever is 
> spoken except for the occational font- and size change, nothing more.
> /Krister
> 
>> 16 juli 2015 kl. 13:38 skrev Anne Robertson :
>> 
>> Hello Krister,
>> 
>> I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my 
>> MacBook Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact 
>> with the document layout area and then with the text and the up and down 
>> arrow keys work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text 
>> pointer are not in the same place despite the fact that I have them 
>> following each other. The mouse is somewhere else again!
>> I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking 
>> at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, and 
>> VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I go 
>> to the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there.
>>> I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
>>> try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
>>> only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
>>> cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
>>> the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
>>> vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but when 
>>> i try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is read.
>>> I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
>>> obvious thing im i missing?
>>> Anyone else come across this?
>>> /Krister
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

2015-07-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eileen,

The beta still works but you have to download the updater and update the 
applications regularly. It seems that every time I open Word, the updater kicks 
in and downloads a new version.

The whole process was explained here a while ago but I don’t seem to have kept 
the message. Perhaps someone else has kept it.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 16 Jul 2015, at 19:24, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi There,
> 
> I hope I'm not hijacking this thread too much. I was a beta tester for Office 
> for the Mac. I don't have Office 365 that is offering the new version. My 
> question is: Does the beta still work or will I need to wait when the Office 
> product is released in the fall to use it again on the Mac? I did open Word, 
> interacted with the document, but no text was inputted there. That's why I'm 
> replying to this thread.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Warmest regards,
> Eileen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:47 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, this is the strange thing, it worked fine until a couple betas ago. Now 
>> if i interact only with the layout area VO can sometimes read one letter of 
>> a word and then is silent. If i interact with the text, nothing whatsoever 
>> is spoken except for the occational font- and size change, nothing more.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 16 juli 2015 kl. 13:38 skrev Anne Robertson :
>>> 
>>> Hello Krister,
>>> 
>>> I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my 
>>> MacBook Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact 
>>> with the document layout area and then with the text and the up and down 
>>> arrow keys work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text 
>>> pointer are not in the same place despite the fact that I have them 
>>> following each other. The mouse is somewhere else again!
>>> I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking 
>>> at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, 
>>> and VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I 
>>> go to the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom  
 wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
 try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
 only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
 cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
 the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
 vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but 
 when i try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is 
 read.
 I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but 
 what obvious thing im i missing?
 Anyone else come across this?
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Re: Amazon Fire TV Accessibility

2015-07-16 Thread christopher hallsworth
Apple TV is fully accessible out of the box whereas Chromecast isn't. On the 
other hand, Chromecast allows you to watch more channels out of the box whereas 
Apple TV doesn't although this may be changing later on in the year.


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> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:55, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Ok, still a little confused on that front; what does cromecast do that apple 
> TV doesn't, and vise-versa?
> On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:53 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
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>> Optical out. Chromecast, on the other hand, is a USB stick that I assume 
>> works only with the TV via HDMI.
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>>> On 14 Jul 2015, at 13:43, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, what exactly is the difference between that, apple TV, and something a 
>>> friend recommended I get called cromecast?
>>> On Jul 13, 2015, at 7:25 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
 Interesting, Rick. I assume, that since this is specifically related to 
 the instant video app, that there isn't any way to use voice search on 
 other fire TV channels. It's a good start. But clearly, the answer would 
 be to make the app accessible so that we could use all the channels.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 13, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Rick Alfaro  wrote:
> 
> Mary and others:
> 
> Brent Harbolt from www.harboltcompany.com posted a short podcast on a 
> work around for using the Fire TV in conjuction with the IOS Instant 
> Video app. Basically, you find the movie you want in the Instant Video 
> app then do a voice search for it on the Fire TV. It isn't ideal but it 
> does make the Fire TV somewhat useable. In the podcast he goes over it 
> step by step, informing you what to do and how to use the Fire TV remote 
> to accomplish this. I've taken the liberty of uploading this to 
> SendSpace, hope he doesn't mind. (lol)
> 
> https://www.sendspace.com/file/tz7t06
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 6:13 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon Fire TV Accessibility
> 
> Hi Kevin,
> Thank you for your good efforts. Frankly, I wish they would just make the 
> apps for these things really accessible to the screen reader of choice, 
> rather than trying to build some kludgy nonsense into the fire TV etc. I 
> have a Kindle fire HD, and I was so dissatisfied with it that I gave it 
> to my husband
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Kevin Shaw  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> No, I don’t know anyone on the Echo team, but my friend tells me it’s 
>> not hard to get the message across to the right people. I’ve already 
>> told her the “community” is hating on Amazon products for lack of screen 
>> reader accessibility.
>> 
>> My friend has worked on some motor accessibility stuff for Fire TV, so 
>> it’s not a far leap to get them to put a screen reader on it. 
>> 
>> I suggested they take the screen readers from the Fire Phones and put 
>> them into the Fire TVs, but the Fire Phones are all being used to prop 
>> up wobbly desks and chairs at Amazon. Only kidding.
>> 
>> Will keep you guys in the loop.
>> Kevin
>>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good, Kevin. I hope something comes of it. You don't happen to know 
>>> anybody on the Amazon echo team do you? It seems that requests from 
>>> ordinary echo users don't do any good, as the updates they release do 
>>> not help. The iPhone app remains a loser. The website is barely usable 
>>> in my opinion and not usable and that of some others I know.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 9, 2015, at 8:31 PM, Kevin Shaw  wrote:
 
 A friend of mine is a software engineer on the Fire TV team at Amazon. 
 I’ve told her about the discussions on this list around the Fire TV 
 iPhone app being inaccessible to VO users and she’s given me her 
 promise that she will bring it up with the dev team. 
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Re: Amazon Fire TV Accessibility

2015-07-16 Thread Mary Otten
Is there any excess ability for chrome cast?
Mary


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> On Jul 16, 2015, at 12:16 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
> Apple TV is fully accessible out of the box whereas Chromecast isn't. On the 
> other hand, Chromecast allows you to watch more channels out of the box 
> whereas Apple TV doesn't although this may be changing later on in the year.
> 
> 
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>> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:55, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, still a little confused on that front; what does cromecast do that apple 
>> TV doesn't, and vise-versa?
>>> On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:53 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple TV is a box you connect to your TV via HDMI or stereo system via 
>>> Optical out. Chromecast, on the other hand, is a USB stick that I assume 
>>> works only with the TV via HDMI.
>>> 
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 On 14 Jul 2015, at 13:43, Jessica Moss  wrote:
 
 Ok, what exactly is the difference between that, apple TV, and something a 
 friend recommended I get called cromecast?
> On Jul 13, 2015, at 7:25 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Interesting, Rick. I assume, that since this is specifically related to 
> the instant video app, that there isn't any way to use voice search on 
> other fire TV channels. It's a good start. But clearly, the answer would 
> be to make the app accessible so that we could use all the channels.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Rick Alfaro  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary and others:
>> 
>> Brent Harbolt from www.harboltcompany.com posted a short podcast on a 
>> work around for using the Fire TV in conjuction with the IOS Instant 
>> Video app. Basically, you find the movie you want in the Instant Video 
>> app then do a voice search for it on the Fire TV. It isn't ideal but it 
>> does make the Fire TV somewhat useable. In the podcast he goes over it 
>> step by step, informing you what to do and how to use the Fire TV remote 
>> to accomplish this. I've taken the liberty of uploading this to 
>> SendSpace, hope he doesn't mind. (lol)
>> 
>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/tz7t06
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Rick Alfaro
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 6:13 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Amazon Fire TV Accessibility
>> 
>> Hi Kevin,
>> Thank you for your good efforts. Frankly, I wish they would just make 
>> the apps for these things really accessible to the screen reader of 
>> choice, rather than trying to build some kludgy nonsense into the fire 
>> TV etc. I have a Kindle fire HD, and I was so dissatisfied with it that 
>> I gave it to my husband
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Kevin Shaw  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> No, I don’t know anyone on the Echo team, but my friend tells me it’s 
>>> not hard to get the message across to the right people. I’ve already 
>>> told her the “community” is hating on Amazon products for lack of 
>>> screen reader accessibility.
>>> 
>>> My friend has worked on some motor accessibility stuff for Fire TV, so 
>>> it’s not a far leap to get them to put a screen reader on it. 
>>> 
>>> I suggested they take the screen readers from the Fire Phones and put 
>>> them into the Fire TVs, but the Fire Phones are all being used to prop 
>>> up wobbly desks and chairs at Amazon. Only kidding.
>>> 
>>> Will keep you guys in the loop.
>>> Kevin
 On Jul 9, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Good, Kevin. I hope something comes of it. You don't happen to know 
 anybody on the Amazon echo team do you? It seems that requests from 
 ordinary echo users don't do any good, as the updates they release do 
 not help. The iPhone app remains a loser. The website is barely usable 
 in my opinion and not usable and that of some others I know.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 9, 2015, at 8:31 PM, Kevin Shaw  wrote:
> 
> A friend of mine is a software engineer on the Fire TV team at 
> Amazon. I’ve told her about the discussions on this list around the 
> Fire TV iPhone app being inaccessible to VO users and she’s given me 
> her promise that 

Re: how to copy contacts from one account to another?

2015-07-16 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

If these contacts are within the Contacts app, but only linked to your gMail 
account, then you should be able to simply copy and paste into iCloud.  If 
they're only visible through the gMail web interface, then you'll likely need 
to export them as vCards from the Contacts app of the gMail web interface.  You 
should then be able to import them into the local Contacts app on your Mac.

Hope that makes sense.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 16, 2015, at 10:12, Joe Quinn  wrote:

I've got contacts that I accidentally created under my gmail account, but want 
to transfer them to my iclouth account, without having to reenter everything 
into the contacts app under my icloud account. I'm sure there's a way to do 
this, but how? :)

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Looking for Gary Robledo

2015-07-16 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Sorry to spam the list but there is an issue with his account, I've 
emailed him twice with no response but he is still active in 
discussions. Gary, please contact me off list as Google has your email 
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Talking timer/stopwatch App

2015-07-16 Thread Christina
Hello, are there any accessible ones out there? I'd like to possibly be able to 
hear time increments announced out loud.   One way I would like to use 
something like this, is when making pancakes, I need to time them and no went 
to flip and so on. There are lots of other uses but that is the one I'm 
thinking of at this minute. :-)

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RE: how to copy contacts from one account to another?

2015-07-16 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Joe,

If you Google this, you will find that there are two basic ways to accomplish 
your goal.  

The first method is to use your web browser to log into your gMail account and 
export your Contacts List as a vCard file; then, log into your iCloud account 
and import that file.  As there are hundreds and hundreds of easy to follow 
step-by-step articles on this, I will not list them here.  

The second method, which is the one I use, when moving people from an Android 
device to an iPhone, is to attach the vCard file that was created when 
exporting from gMail, to an email and send that email to the device to which I 
want to import the Contacts.

In short, if you open a vCard attached file on an iPhone, and presumably in the 
Mail application on the Mac although I have not personally done so, a dialog 
box appears asking if you want to add the list of Contacts to your Contacts 
list.  Simply confirm this option and you're done.

Good Luck,

Mark

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On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 9:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: how to copy contacts from one account to another?

I've got contacts that I accidentally created under my gmail account, but want 
to transfer them to my iclouth account, without having to reenter everything 
into the contacts app under my icloud account. I'm sure there's a way to do 
this, but how? :)

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RE: Talking timer/stopwatch App

2015-07-16 Thread george b
You can do it with the clock app that comes with your phone

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Subject: Talking timer/stopwatch App

Hello, are there any accessible ones out there? I'd like to possibly be able to 
hear time increments announced out loud.   One way I would like to use 
something like this, is when making pancakes, I need to time them and no went 
to flip and so on. There are lots of other uses but that is the one I'm 
thinking of at this minute. :-)

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Talking timer/stopwatch App

2015-07-16 Thread Jessica Moss
I love that thing to death; use it when I need a second timer in the kitchen 
and it works wonders.
On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:15 PM, george b  wrote:

> You can do it with the clock app that comes with your phone
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christina
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 13:08
> To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Talking timer/stopwatch App
> 
> Hello, are there any accessible ones out there? I'd like to possibly be able 
> to hear time increments announced out loud.   One way I would like to use 
> something like this, is when making pancakes, I need to time them and no went 
> to flip and so on. There are lots of other uses but that is the one I'm 
> thinking of at this minute. :-)
> 
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OT question about ios 8 braille keyboard.

2015-07-16 Thread erik burggraaf
This may seem like a silly question, but does voiceover have to be turned on in 
order to access the braille keyboard?

Thanks,

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Re: OT question about ios 8 braille keyboard.

2015-07-16 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, the braille keyboard is specifically part of VoiceOver. It is activated in 
the rotor. Therefore, VO needs to be running.

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> This may seem like a silly question, but does voiceover have to be turned on 
> in order to access the braille keyboard?
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: garage band

2015-07-16 Thread Kjsc Radio
I do a lot of audio editing with GarageBand, and it works quite well. There are 
some tips and tricks that you have to know, but it is easily accessible if you 
think of it.

Jonnyboy! Iphones rock!

> On Jul 16, 2015, at 08:01, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Audacity is very accessible, once you learn it. I use it for all my editing, 
> and aside from one bug, it works well.
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:02 AM, Juan Hernandez  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I need to last minute audio editing for a project.  I saw on apples that 
>> audacity is not accessible.  I was reading on the internet that one can edit 
>> audio files with GarageBand.  I see the only to open your audio file in gb 
>> is to drag and drop it.  I see no other open method.
>> 
>> I want to buy amadeus pro, but that’ll have to weight until I have money on 
>> friday.
>> 
>> Any help would truly be appreciated.
>> 
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Re: siri's sense of humor, and ability to..?

2015-07-16 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Karen,
You can have a male Siri if you like, it’s in the choices under Siri in 
settings. I have a nice Brit gentleman, for instance, instead of the snotty 
American version!  lol
hth,
Caitlyn(not Genner, btw! another lol)

> On Jul 15, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> as to the first question, I understand she? had no idea she is a girl, has an 
> amusing answer to  questions like... what's zero divided by zero?"
> if noone has tried it, I will not spoil the fun.
> I understand too that she will correct anyone  seeking physical information 
> about Bruce Jenner.
> The other half of my question has to do with nuance.
> I recently visited an apple store to learn  if the ios voices could be 
> nuanced the way mac voices can.  I was dismayed that while you can speed the 
> voice up and slow it down, you cannot  improve the over all quality..but I 
> did not try Siri  at all.
> I was working with an ipad, not a phone.
> so can she be improved?
> I may need to check her out, I tend to prefer a guy's voice talking in my ear 
> even on my computer lol.
> Still  it might be the difference between ever using an ios device as is the 
> case now, and considering an iphone for non phone tasks.
> Thanks,
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Intro and question

2015-07-16 Thread gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net

Hello,

I recently subscribed to this list because I purchased my first Apple 
computer, a Macbook air.
I would like to know if my machine has a word processor, or more than one. 
In this case, what is the easiest to learn? I heard about Pages and Numbers. 
Are they word processors?

Thank you,

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Re: Intro and question

2015-07-16 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Pages is a full featured Word Processor that should have came with your Mac.  
There is also a basic Word Processor called TextEdit that comes with your Mac 
as well.  Actually, it’s basic but really quite a bit more than basic.

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> they word processors?
> Thank you,
> 
> Rena
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Re: siri's sense of humor, and ability to..?

2015-07-16 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi Caitlin not Jenner lol!
Seriously, this  is something I do not understand.
why can you not nuance ios voices the way you can mac ones?
The ability to adjust tone and pitch is fundamental to using speech.
It actually was a deal breaker for my getting an ios device.  That handsome 
Brit was close but to use him regularly in settings I wanted to refine him 
a bit...and was stunned that this was impossible save for speed.
I can only imagine how frustrating this must be for those new to 
understanding  synthesized speech, especially if  others around you are 
telling you its fine but you do not think as much.
 Any explanation for why apple does not build something  so simple into 
the ios platform?

Kare


On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Caitlyn Furness wrote:


Karen,
You can have a male Siri if you like, it’s in the choices under Siri in 
settings. I have a nice Brit gentleman, for instance, instead of the snotty 
American version!  lol
hth,
Caitlyn(not Genner, btw! another lol)


On Jul 15, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi folks,
as to the first question, I understand she? had no idea she is a girl, has an 
amusing answer to  questions like... what's zero divided by zero?"
if noone has tried it, I will not spoil the fun.
I understand too that she will correct anyone  seeking physical information 
about Bruce Jenner.
The other half of my question has to do with nuance.
I recently visited an apple store to learn  if the ios voices could be nuanced 
the way mac voices can.  I was dismayed that while you can speed the voice up 
and slow it down, you cannot  improve the over all quality..but I did not try 
Siri  at all.
I was working with an ipad, not a phone.
so can she be improved?
I may need to check her out, I tend to prefer a guy's voice talking in my ear 
even on my computer lol.
Still  it might be the difference between ever using an ios device as is the 
case now, and considering an iphone for non phone tasks.
Thanks,
Karen



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Re: Looking for Gary Robledo

2015-07-16 Thread Gary
Sorry, I didn’t see your email on the message, but you can contact me on 
gary.robl...@gmail.com.
Gary

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> him twice with no response but he is still active in discussions. Gary, 
> please contact me off list as Google has your email address listed as 
> bouncing.
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Re: Intro and question

2015-07-16 Thread Adrian Leong
it has text edit for word processing

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Windows 7 and Bootcamp

2015-07-16 Thread E.T.
   I have yet to do this so am curious, does this process require it be 
done in one stage, that is, once started, it has to be completed?


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in the past. What if it were true?

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Re: Intro and question

2015-07-16 Thread Alex Hall
Welcome to the world of the Mac!

You get Text Edit built into the Mac; this app lets you write text, and format 
it with links, lists, fonts, alignment, and so on. You can't do margins--at 
least I don't think you can--and there is nothing like template support or 
other advanced features. Fr getting started, though, you can't beat it.

Pages doesn't come loaded on your Mac, but it is free in the App Store. It is 
far more complex and advanced than Text Edit, and you should get a solid grasp 
of VoiceOver before you tackle it. To get it, simply open the App Store, hit 
cmd-f, type 'pages', and press enter. Tab a couple times until you hear 
"Install Pages, free button" and press space. Numbers, by the way, is a 
spreadsheet program that is also free and available in the App Store.
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> Hello,
> 
> I recently subscribed to this list because I purchased my first Apple 
> computer, a Macbook air.
> I would like to know if my machine has a word processor, or more than one. In 
> this case, what is the easiest to learn? I heard about Pages and Numbers. Are 
> they word processors?
> Thank you,
> 
> Rena
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Re: siri's sense of humor, and ability to..?

2015-07-16 Thread David Chittenden
It has to do with the amount of processing required for human-sounding speech. 
This is quite processor intensive, and iOS devices, though powerful, are still 
pocket devices.

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> On 17 Jul 2015, at 12:24, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Caitlin not Jenner lol!
> Seriously, this  is something I do not understand.
> why can you not nuance ios voices the way you can mac ones?
> The ability to adjust tone and pitch is fundamental to using speech.
> It actually was a deal breaker for my getting an ios device.  That handsome 
> Brit was close but to use him regularly in settings I wanted to refine him a 
> bit...and was stunned that this was impossible save for speed.
> I can only imagine how frustrating this must be for those new to 
> understanding  synthesized speech, especially if  others around you are 
> telling you its fine but you do not think as much.
> Any explanation for why apple does not build something  so simple into the 
> ios platform?
> Kare
> 
> 
>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
>> 
>> Karen,
>> You can have a male Siri if you like, it’s in the choices under Siri in 
>> settings. I have a nice Brit gentleman, for instance, instead of the snotty 
>> American version!  lol
>> hth,
>> Caitlyn(not Genner, btw! another lol)
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> as to the first question, I understand she? had no idea she is a girl, has 
>>> an amusing answer to  questions like... what's zero divided by zero?"
>>> if noone has tried it, I will not spoil the fun.
>>> I understand too that she will correct anyone  seeking physical information 
>>> about Bruce Jenner.
>>> The other half of my question has to do with nuance.
>>> I recently visited an apple store to learn  if the ios voices could be 
>>> nuanced the way mac voices can.  I was dismayed that while you can speed 
>>> the voice up and slow it down, you cannot  improve the over all 
>>> quality..but I did not try Siri  at all.
>>> I was working with an ipad, not a phone.
>>> so can she be improved?
>>> I may need to check her out, I tend to prefer a guy's voice talking in my 
>>> ear even on my computer lol.
>>> Still  it might be the difference between ever using an ios device as is 
>>> the case now, and considering an iphone for non phone tasks.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Karen
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tabbing while in system window

2015-07-16 Thread May McDonald
Hopefully someone can help me out here.

I have no idea what I did wrong, but somehow I managed to make it so that 
whenever I press tab while in the system window it doesn't go through each item 
like I originally had it set up.

I have looked through all my settings and they are where I put them so I can't 
figure out what broke. Any ideas because I can't figure it out, smiles.

May and LD Luna Moon!
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tabbing issue

2015-07-16 Thread May McDonald
Ugh, ok make it it's actually doing it everywhere. iTunes safari, mail. Bah, 
what did I break!!!

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Re: garage band

2015-07-16 Thread 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries



Reply to the Kjsc Radio's message, wrote on 17/07/2015 at 00:45:

I do a lot of audio editing with GarageBand, and it works quite well. There are 
some tips and tricks that you have to know, but it is easily accessible if you 
think of it.


Hi Jonnyboy.It souhnds so nice and interesting, what you said.
I really would like to know how.
Could you please record a podcast for us, or manage some Skype 
conference with who's interested to learn a bit?

You may teach us the basics of editing in GB.

Thanks.
Gabriel.

PS: sorry, what version of GB are you using?

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