Cs it possible to format mac with VoiceOver?

['onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, I've managed to do something stupid with read write permitions and now my 
mac is running rediculously slow. I've tried repairin permitions but that 
hasn't helped. I think it might be a good idea for a format anyway, so I was 
wondering whether it is possible to do this without sighted help, or am I going 
to have to call in the eyes on this one?

Thanks.Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Cs it possible to format mac with VoiceOver?

[Buddy Brannan]

No sighted help required. Shut down your Mac and then restart it while holding 
down CMD+r as it chimes. Wait a few seconds, then let go. Wait a bit longer and 
press CMD+F5. You can access disk utility from here with Fred. Fred will walk 
you through a disk erase, then an OS reinstall. 

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> On Jul 6, 2015, at 8:44 AM, 'onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I've managed to do something stupid with read write permitions and now my 
> mac is running rediculously slow. I've tried repairin permitions but that 
> hasn't helped. I think it might be a good idea for a format anyway, so I was 
> wondering whether it is possible to do this without sighted help, or am I 
> going to have to call in the eyes on this one?
> 
> Thanks.Sent from my iPhone
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cannot add music back to iPHone using iTunes 12.2 and IOS8.4

[Ray Foret Jr]

In the name of or the lack of sanity, can anybody tell me how to add music back 
to my iPhone 6 plus using IOS 8.4 and iTunes 12.2?  The standard procedure no 
longer works.  Thanks.

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

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Re: Cs it possible to format mac with VoiceOver?

['onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries]

Great, thanks Buddy, I'll give that a go. I tried booting into safemode a 
couple of days ago but that wouldn't talk, even with command f5. I'm going to 
be doing the format in a couple of hours. Just backing things up to a second 
USB drive. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 6 Jul 2015, at 14:01, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
> 
> No sighted help required. Shut down your Mac and then restart it while 
> holding down CMD+r as it chimes. Wait a few seconds, then let go. Wait a bit 
> longer and press CMD+F5. You can access disk utility from here with Fred. 
> Fred will walk you through a disk erase, then an OS reinstall. 
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>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 8:44 AM, 'onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I've managed to do something stupid with read write permitions and now 
>> my mac is running rediculously slow. I've tried repairin permitions but that 
>> hasn't helped. I think it might be a good idea for a format anyway, so I was 
>> wondering whether it is possible to do this without sighted help, or am I 
>> going to have to call in the eyes on this one?
>> 
>> Thanks.Sent from my iPhone
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My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Guys,

I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm quite 
embarrassed.

I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through ITunes.  
The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were saying.

I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the ITunes 
store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you like something 
enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy it!  If you don't like 
it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple.  Well?  It is simple, until we 
start talking about the music you bought before Itunes Music went into effect.  
I dono if this is what you all meant about not cancelling ITunes match, but 
actually, I didn't have Match to start with.  I did! however, have somewhere in 
the neighborhood of over 1500 songs which I'd purchased over the years.  So, 
one of those songs is no longer available on ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of 
it, and was able to just reimport it, but that's not the point.

I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then find, 
both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor with vo+U, 
to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there!  Like, I can't 
even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my previously purchased 
Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not aware of it, I'm one effing 
pissed off little dude!  I have literally probably over the years spent over 5 
to 10 thousand dollars on music and other content.  Suffice it to say, if they 
removed the ability for me to get that stuff back when needed, that! I don't! 
agree with!  I see now why you all were so ticked off, if that's what you 
meant.  I thought you just meant going forward you were ticked that you 
couldn't just have your music for free and own it.

I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention, a major! lawsuit with 
this one, if my theory is correct that they actually indeed did! remove the 
purchased section.

Chris.

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ftp client for the mac

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
Can anyone suggest a good ftp client for use with the mac?  I’ve heard about 
one called transport or something like that, but can’t find it in the app 
store..

thanks!
Caitlyn

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Re: ftp client for the mac

[Brandon A. Olivares]

You’re thinking of Transmit. That’s my favorite and the one I use regularly.
> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Can anyone suggest a good ftp client for use with the mac?  I’ve heard about 
> one called transport or something like that, but can’t find it in the app 
> store..
> 
> thanks!
> Caitlyn
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Re: ftp client for the mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

That's because it's called Transmit, not transport.
- Original Message - 
From: "Caitlyn Furness" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 1:45 PM
Subject: ftp client for the mac


Hi,
Can anyone suggest a good ftp client for use with the mac?  I’ve heard about 
one called transport or something like that, but can’t find it in the app 
store..


thanks!
Caitlyn

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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Donna Goodin]

Hey Chris,

No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact of 
Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of caution.  I 
do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to have DRM 
protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact my purchased 
music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get your stuff back.  I 
don't think that Apple would deliberately take away content that has been 
legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a solution to your situation, 
though I have no idea what it would be.
Best,
Donna
> On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Guys,
>  
> I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm 
> quite embarrassed.
>  
> I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through ITunes. 
>  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were saying.
>  
> I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
> purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the ITunes 
> store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you like 
> something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy it!  If 
> you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple.  Well?  It is 
> simple, until we start talking about the music you bought before Itunes Music 
> went into effect.  I dono if this is what you all meant about not cancelling 
> ITunes match, but actually, I didn't have Match to start with.  I did! 
> however, have somewhere in the neighborhood of over 1500 songs which I'd 
> purchased over the years.  So, one of those songs is no longer available on 
> ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of it, and was able to just reimport it, but 
> that's not the point.
>  
> I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then find, 
> both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor with vo+U, 
> to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there!  Like, I can't 
> even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my previously purchased 
> Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not aware of it, I'm one effing 
> pissed off little dude!  I have literally probably over the years spent over 
> 5 to 10 thousand dollars on music and other content.  Suffice it to say, if 
> they removed the ability for me to get that stuff back when needed, that! I 
> don't! agree with!  I see now why you all were so ticked off, if that's what 
> you meant.  I thought you just meant going forward you were ticked that you 
> couldn't just have your music for free and own it.
>  
> I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention, a major! lawsuit 
> with this one, if my theory is correct that they actually indeed did! remove 
> the purchased section.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Daniel Miller]

Hi. No, Apple did not take away the ability to download purchased content 
again. Go to the iTunes Store, and search for the word purchased using the find 
command of any screen reader you use. It's right there. As far as DRM and Apple 
music goes, Apple does not put DRM on songs you own. Only the songs that you 
add to your library from Apple music itself have DRM.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hey Chris,
> 
> No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact of 
> Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of caution.  
> I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to have DRM 
> protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact my 
> purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get your 
> stuff back.  I don't think that Apple would deliberately take away content 
> that has been legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a solution to 
> your situation, though I have no idea what it would be.
> Best,
> Donna
>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Guys,
>>  
>> I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm 
>> quite embarrassed.
>>  
>> I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
>> ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were saying.
>>  
>> I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
>> purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the ITunes 
>> store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you like 
>> something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy it!  If 
>> you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple.  Well?  It is 
>> simple, until we start talking about the music you bought before Itunes 
>> Music went into effect.  I dono if this is what you all meant about not 
>> cancelling ITunes match, but actually, I didn't have Match to start with.  I 
>> did! however, have somewhere in the neighborhood of over 1500 songs which 
>> I'd purchased over the years.  So, one of those songs is no longer available 
>> on ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of it, and was able to just reimport it, 
>> but that's not the point.
>>  
>> I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then find, 
>> both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor with 
>> vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there!  Like, I 
>> can't even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my previously 
>> purchased Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not aware of it, I'm 
>> one effing pissed off little dude!  I have literally probably over the years 
>> spent over 5 to 10 thousand dollars on music and other content.  Suffice it 
>> to say, if they removed the ability for me to get that stuff back when 
>> needed, that! I don't! agree with!  I see now why you all were so ticked 
>> off, if that's what you meant.  I thought you just meant going forward you 
>> were ticked that you couldn't just have your music for free and own it.
>>  
>> I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention, a major! lawsuit 
>> with this one, if my theory is correct that they actually indeed did! remove 
>> the purchased section.
>>  
>> Chris.
>> 
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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[christopher hallsworth]

Folks,
I can see why you are hacked off, but I can confirm this is a false alarm. I 
just went into iTunes, selected the "iTunes Store" radio button, used the links 
menu, and, there it was, purchased! I clicked on that, and can see all I ever 
purchased, at least that is still available, from the iTunes Store.
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> On 6 Jul 2015, at 18:58, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hey Chris,
> 
> No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact of 
> Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of caution.  
> I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to have DRM 
> protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact my 
> purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get your 
> stuff back.  I don't think that Apple would deliberately take away content 
> that has been legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a solution to 
> your situation, though I have no idea what it would be.
> Best,
> Donna
>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Guys,
>>  
>> I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm 
>> quite embarrassed.
>>  
>> I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
>> ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were saying.
>>  
>> I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
>> purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the ITunes 
>> store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you like 
>> something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy it!  If 
>> you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple.  Well?  It is 
>> simple, until we start talking about the music you bought before Itunes 
>> Music went into effect.  I dono if this is what you all meant about not 
>> cancelling ITunes match, but actually, I didn't have Match to start with.  I 
>> did! however, have somewhere in the neighborhood of over 1500 songs which 
>> I'd purchased over the years.  So, one of those songs is no longer available 
>> on ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of it, and was able to just reimport it, 
>> but that's not the point.
>>  
>> I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then find, 
>> both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor with 
>> vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there!  Like, I 
>> can't even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my previously 
>> purchased Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not aware of it, I'm 
>> one effing pissed off little dude!  I have literally probably over the years 
>> spent over 5 to 10 thousand dollars on music and other content.  Suffice it 
>> to say, if they removed the ability for me to get that stuff back when 
>> needed, that! I don't! agree with!  I see now why you all were so ticked 
>> off, if that's what you meant.  I thought you just meant going forward you 
>> were ticked that you couldn't just have your music for free and own it.
>>  
>> I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention, a major! lawsuit 
>> with this one, if my theory is correct that they actually indeed did! remove 
>> the purchased section.
>>  
>> Chris.
>> 
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anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot since upgrading to IOS 8.4?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

this has happened two or three times since i upgraded.  My phone just seems to 
run super hot for no apparent reason, and powering it on and off doesn't take 
care of it.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I'm on an iPhone 6.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot since upgrading to IOS 8.4?

[Sadam Ahmed]

No problems here, you might have a hardware problem. 

Try restoring the device. If the symptoms continue seek assistance from 
AppleCare. 

Sadam. 

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> On 7 Jul 2015, at 4:14 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> this has happened two or three times since i upgraded.  My phone just seems 
> to run super hot for no apparent reason, and powering it on and off doesn't 
> take care of it.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I'm on an iPhone 6.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

They're actually telling me it's now gone.  The thing is, yes, I could a gotten 
it back had I not done what one rep told me to do.  I was having issues with my 
ITunes library, after Apple Music came in effect, and as a suggestion, he told 
me to wipe my entire ICloud Music library, then start fresh.  I asked him 
deliveretly if this would wipe my purchases, and he said yes, but I could get 
them back through purchase history, Match subscriber, or not.

Now I'm finding out, he was totally wrong, because basically ICloud Music 
totally replaced your purchase history as well as your ITunes Match, 
apparently.  So, if you delete something out of your ITunes ICloud library as 
of now, consider it then gone forever unless you either have a copy you can 
reimport, or unless you repurchase it.  Otherwise, you can stream it, or just 
get the drm version.

When I told them that was stupid, as I'd bought that music, and shouldn't have 
to pay for another reps bad decision, they told me they were sorry, and that 
he'd be dealt with accordingly, but as for me, I could repurchase the tracks if 
I want them again.  They said they were sorry, but that there was nothing they 
could do.  Even had there been some leeway a higher up could do, they have no 
history of what I bought nor proof of what I bought to put back in my library, 
since I deleted it upon that rep's request.  When I asked them if they could 
compensate me some other way like maybe with a product equal to the amount of 
purchases over the years I've done, they said yes.  Absolutely they could do 
that, provided that I could either snail mail or fax them the printed receipts 
from all those purchases.  Fortunately, unlike most people, I was smart.  I've 
literally printed and kept all the purchase music wise that I've made since 
2008 until now.  I'm basically just gonna have to get those receipts either 
xeroxed or faxed.  Once done, I might at the cost I'm eating be up for a new 
mac, at this rate.  After adding things up, it comes to about 2600 dollars, 
give or take a few.

We'll just have to see what happens.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Donna Goodin 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 1:58 PM
  Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


  Hey Chris,


  No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact of 
Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of caution.  I 
do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to have DRM 
protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact my purchased 
music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get your stuff back.  I 
don't think that Apple would deliberately take away content that has been 
legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a solution to your situation, 
though I have no idea what it would be.
  Best,
  Donna

On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Guys,

I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm 
quite embarrassed.

I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were saying.

I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the ITunes 
store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you like something 
enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy it!  If you don't like 
it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple.  Well?  It is simple, until we 
start talking about the music you bought before Itunes Music went into effect.  
I dono if this is what you all meant about not cancelling ITunes match, but 
actually, I didn't have Match to start with.  I did! however, have somewhere in 
the neighborhood of over 1500 songs which I'd purchased over the years.  So, 
one of those songs is no longer available on ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of 
it, and was able to just reimport it, but that's not the point.

I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then 
find, both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor with 
vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there!  Like, I 
can't even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my previously 
purchased Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not aware of it, I'm one 
effing pissed off little dude!  I have literally probably over the years spent 
over 5 to 10 thousand dollars on music and other content.  Suffice it to say, 
if they removed the ability for me to get that stuff back when needed, that! I 
don't! agree with!  I see now why you all were so ticked off, if that's what 
you meant.  I thought you just meant going forward you were ticked that you 
couldn't just have your music for free and own it.

I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention,

Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Daniel, I've gone to the store, and looked for the purchased link.  I'll check 
and see if the find option works different than the rotor or the item chooser, 
but, yeah... according to Apple, yes, they're gone.

I'll look again though.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
  Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


  Hi. No, Apple did not take away the ability to download purchased content 
again. Go to the iTunes Store, and search for the word purchased using the find 
command of any screen reader you use. It's right there. As far as DRM and Apple 
music goes, Apple does not put DRM on songs you own. Only the songs that you 
add to your library from Apple music itself have DRM.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 6, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:


Hey Chris,


No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact 
of Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of caution.  
I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to have DRM 
protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact my purchased 
music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get your stuff back.  I 
don't think that Apple would deliberately take away content that has been 
legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a solution to your situation, 
though I have no idea what it would be.
Best,
Donna

  On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  Guys,

  I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm 
quite embarrassed.

  I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were saying.

  I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the ITunes 
store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you like something 
enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy it!  If you don't like 
it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple.  Well?  It is simple, until we 
start talking about the music you bought before Itunes Music went into effect.  
I dono if this is what you all meant about not cancelling ITunes match, but 
actually, I didn't have Match to start with.  I did! however, have somewhere in 
the neighborhood of over 1500 songs which I'd purchased over the years.  So, 
one of those songs is no longer available on ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of 
it, and was able to just reimport it, but that's not the point.

  I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then 
find, both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor with 
vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there!  Like, I 
can't even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my previously 
purchased Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not aware of it, I'm one 
effing pissed off little dude!  I have literally probably over the years spent 
over 5 to 10 thousand dollars on music and other content.  Suffice it to say, 
if they removed the ability for me to get that stuff back when needed, that! I 
don't! agree with!  I see now why you all were so ticked off, if that's what 
you meant.  I thought you just meant going forward you were ticked that you 
couldn't just have your music for free and own it.

  I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention, a major! lawsuit 
with this one, if my theory is correct that they actually indeed did! remove 
the purchased section.

  Chris.


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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Daniel,

I stand corrected.  You're exactly right.  I have no idea why vo+U, nor item 
chooser would work.  Further, this really really unsettles me that Apple didn't 
know about this, and told me my stuff was gone.

Let me call them back before they do anything further, as there is no need for 
them now to press this case any further.

I just don't understand why they would have told me in the first place that my 
music was gone.  I knew that sounded a bit fishy, but seeing I couldn't find it 
myself, and seeing that they told me that, I just went on assumption.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
  Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


  Hi. No, Apple did not take away the ability to download purchased content 
again. Go to the iTunes Store, and search for the word purchased using the find 
command of any screen reader you use. It's right there. As far as DRM and Apple 
music goes, Apple does not put DRM on songs you own. Only the songs that you 
add to your library from Apple music itself have DRM.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 6, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:


Hey Chris,


No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact 
of Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of caution.  
I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to have DRM 
protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact my purchased 
music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get your stuff back.  I 
don't think that Apple would deliberately take away content that has been 
legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a solution to your situation, 
though I have no idea what it would be.
Best,
Donna

  On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  Guys,

  I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm 
quite embarrassed.

  I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were saying.

  I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the ITunes 
store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you like something 
enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy it!  If you don't like 
it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple.  Well?  It is simple, until we 
start talking about the music you bought before Itunes Music went into effect.  
I dono if this is what you all meant about not cancelling ITunes match, but 
actually, I didn't have Match to start with.  I did! however, have somewhere in 
the neighborhood of over 1500 songs which I'd purchased over the years.  So, 
one of those songs is no longer available on ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of 
it, and was able to just reimport it, but that's not the point.

  I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then 
find, both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor with 
vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there!  Like, I 
can't even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my previously 
purchased Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not aware of it, I'm one 
effing pissed off little dude!  I have literally probably over the years spent 
over 5 to 10 thousand dollars on music and other content.  Suffice it to say, 
if they removed the ability for me to get that stuff back when needed, that! I 
don't! agree with!  I see now why you all were so ticked off, if that's what 
you meant.  I thought you just meant going forward you were ticked that you 
couldn't just have your music for free and own it.

  I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention, a major! lawsuit 
with this one, if my theory is correct that they actually indeed did! remove 
the purchased section.

  Chris.


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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Daniel Miller]

Chris,

They’re not gone completely, they’re just hidden. GO to your account page, and 
find the hidden purchases section. That should help.
> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Daniel, I've gone to the store, and looked for the purchased link.  I'll 
> check and see if the find option works different than the rotor or the item 
> chooser, but, yeah... according to Apple, yes, they're gone.
>  
> I'll look again though.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Daniel Miller 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others
>> 
>> Hi. No, Apple did not take away the ability to download purchased content 
>> again. Go to the iTunes Store, and search for the word purchased using the 
>> find command of any screen reader you use. It's right there. As far as DRM 
>> and Apple music goes, Apple does not put DRM on songs you own. Only the 
>> songs that you add to your library from Apple music itself have DRM.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Chris,
>>> 
>>> No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact 
>>> of Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of 
>>> caution.  I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to 
>>> have DRM protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact 
>>> my purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get 
>>> your stuff back.  I don't think that Apple would deliberately take away 
>>> content that has been legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a 
>>> solution to your situation, though I have no idea what it would be.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
 On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
 Guys,
  
 I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm 
 quite embarrassed.
  
 I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
 ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were saying.
  
 I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
 purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the 
 ITunes store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you 
 like something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy 
 it!  If you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple.  
 Well?  It is simple, until we start talking about the music you bought 
 before Itunes Music went into effect.  I dono if this is what you all 
 meant about not cancelling ITunes match, but actually, I didn't have Match 
 to start with.  I did! however, have somewhere in the neighborhood of over 
 1500 songs which I'd purchased over the years.  So, one of those songs is 
 no longer available on ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of it, and was able 
 to just reimport it, but that's not the point.
  
 I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then 
 find, both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor 
 with vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there!  
 Like, I can't even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my 
 previously purchased Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not aware 
 of it, I'm one effing pissed off little dude!  I have literally probably 
 over the years spent over 5 to 10 thousand dollars on music and other 
 content.  Suffice it to say, if they removed the ability for me to get 
 that stuff back when needed, that! I don't! agree with!  I see now why you 
 all were so ticked off, if that's what you meant.  I thought you just 
 meant going forward you were ticked that you couldn't just have your music 
 for free and own it.
  
 I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention, a major! lawsuit 
 with this one, if my theory is correct that they actually indeed did! 
 remove the purchased section.
  
 Chris.
 
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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yeah, I don't know why Apple nor myself could find the link before.  Talk 
about a scare!


Let me, as I said call them back, as it's not fair to them to demand 
compensation for a mistake I made.  Not only that, but I feel I owe them a 
big apology.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


Folks,
I can see why you are hacked off, but I can confirm this is a false alarm. I 
just went into iTunes, selected the "iTunes Store" radio button, used the 
links menu, and, there it was, purchased! I clicked on that, and can see all 
I ever purchased, at least that is still available, from the iTunes Store.

Chris


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On 6 Jul 2015, at 18:58, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hey Chris,

No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact 
of Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of 
caution.  I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to 
have DRM protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact 
my purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get 
your stuff back.  I don't think that Apple would deliberately take away 
content that has been legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a 
solution to your situation, though I have no idea what it would be.

Best,
Donna
On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Guys,

I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm 
quite embarrassed.


I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were 
saying.


I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the 
ITunes store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you 
like something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy 
it!  If you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple. 
Well?  It is simple, until we start talking about the music you bought 
before Itunes Music went into effect.  I dono if this is what you all 
meant about not cancelling ITunes match, but actually, I didn't have 
Match to start with.  I did! however, have somewhere in the neighborhood 
of over 1500 songs which I'd purchased over the years.  So, one of those 
songs is no longer available on ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of it, 
and was able to just reimport it, but that's not the point.


I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then 
find, both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor 
with vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there! 
Like, I can't even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my 
previously purchased Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not aware 
of it, I'm one effing pissed off little dude!  I have literally probably 
over the years spent over 5 to 10 thousand dollars on music and other 
content.  Suffice it to say, if they removed the ability for me to get 
that stuff back when needed, that! I don't! agree with!  I see now why 
you all were so ticked off, if that's what you meant.  I thought you just 
meant going forward you were ticked that you couldn't just have your 
music for free and own it.


I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention, a major! lawsuit 
with this one, if my theory is correct that they actually indeed did! 
remove the purchased section.


Chris.

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Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot since upgrading to IOS 8.4?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Which phone specifically do you have?  I have never noticed this.  When you 
say hot, how hot are we talking?  I mean I know you say, hot.  Very hot! 
But that tells me nothing.  Are you saying hot enough to where it burns you? 
And, if so, how high of a tolerance do you have of pain?  No offense.  I'm 
just trying to help you trouble shoot.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Donna Goodin" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:14 PM
Subject: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot 
since upgrading to IOS 8.4?




Hi all,

this has happened two or three times since i upgraded.  My phone just 
seems to run super hot for no apparent reason, and powering it on and off 
doesn't take care of it.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I'm on an iPhone 
6.

Cheers,
Donna

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Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot since upgrading to IOS 8.4?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yeah, I agree, before it overheats!

Chris.

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot 
since upgrading to IOS 8.4?




No problems here, you might have a hardware problem.

Try restoring the device. If the symptoms continue seek assistance from 
AppleCare.


Sadam.

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On 7 Jul 2015, at 4:14 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi all,

this has happened two or three times since i upgraded.  My phone just 
seems to run super hot for no apparent reason, and powering it on and off 
doesn't take care of it.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I'm on an 
iPhone 6.

Cheers,
Donna

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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Joe Quinn]

but, let me get this straight with itunes match. So does this mean that, as I'd 
asked earlier, I'd let my subscription lapse, but got back those songs when I 
subscribed to apple music, but can't download them. those tracks are not 
available any more? I'm confused! :)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I don't know why Apple nor myself could find the link before.  Talk 
> about a scare!
> 
> Let me, as I said call them back, as it's not fair to them to demand 
> compensation for a mistake I made.  Not only that, but I feel I owe them a 
> big apology.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
> 
> To: "macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
> Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others
> 
> 
> Folks,
> I can see why you are hacked off, but I can confirm this is a false alarm. I 
> just went into iTunes, selected the "iTunes Store" radio button, used the 
> links menu, and, there it was, purchased! I clicked on that, and can see all 
> I ever purchased, at least that is still available, from the iTunes Store.
> Chris
> 
> 
> Visit my groups:
> 
> The Chat Zone
> the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
> The Tech Zone
> the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
> Apple Music
> apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6 Jul 2015, at 18:58, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Chris,
>> 
>> No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact of 
>> Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of caution.  
>> I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to have DRM 
>> protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact my 
>> purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get your 
>> stuff back.  I don't think that Apple would deliberately take away content 
>> that has been legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a solution 
>> to your situation, though I have no idea what it would be.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Guys,
>>> 
>>> I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm 
>>> quite embarrassed.
>>> 
>>> I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
>>> ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were saying.
>>> 
>>> I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
>>> purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the 
>>> ITunes store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you 
>>> like something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy it! 
>>>  If you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple. Well?  It 
>>> is simple, until we start talking about the music you bought before Itunes 
>>> Music went into effect.  I dono if this is what you all meant about not 
>>> cancelling ITunes match, but actually, I didn't have Match to start with.  
>>> I did! however, have somewhere in the neighborhood of over 1500 songs which 
>>> I'd purchased over the years.  So, one of those songs is no longer 
>>> available on ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of it, and was able to just 
>>> reimport it, but that's not the point.
>>> 
>>> I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then 
>>> find, both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor 
>>> with vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there! 
>>> Like, I can't even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my 
>>> previously purchased Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not aware 
>>> of it, I'm one effing pissed off little dude!  I have literally probably 
>>> over the years spent over 5 to 10 thousand dollars on music and other 
>>> content.  Suffice it to say, if they removed the ability for me to get that 
>>> stuff back when needed, that! I don't! agree with!  I see now why you all 
>>> were so ticked off, if that's what you meant.  I thought you just meant 
>>> going forward you were ticked that you couldn't just have your music for 
>>> free and own it.
>>> 
>>> I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention, a major! lawsuit 
>>> with this one, if my theory is correct that they actually indeed did! 
>>> remove the purchased section.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Actually, Daniel, they weren't hidden.  Some reason, Voiceover just wasn't 
seeing the purchase link to start with when I did vo+U, nor when I did my item 
chooser.

Your suggestion with vo+F to find worked perfectly.  I've called Apple back and 
had them close out the case.  They definitely did accept my apology, and they 
also profusely apologized for any miscommunication.

So, it's all good.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:48 PM
  Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


  Chris,


  They’re not gone completely, they’re just hidden. GO to your account page, 
and find the hidden purchases section. That should help.

On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Daniel, I've gone to the store, and looked for the purchased link.  I'll 
check and see if the find option works different than the rotor or the item 
chooser, but, yeah... according to Apple, yes, they're gone.

I'll look again though.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
  Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


  Hi. No, Apple did not take away the ability to download purchased content 
again. Go to the iTunes Store, and search for the word purchased using the find 
command of any screen reader you use. It's right there. As far as DRM and Apple 
music goes, Apple does not put DRM on songs you own. Only the songs that you 
add to your library from Apple music itself have DRM.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 6, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:


Hey Chris,


No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the 
impact of Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of 
caution.  I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to have 
DRM protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact my 
purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get your stuff 
back.  I don't think that Apple would deliberately take away content that has 
been legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a solution to your 
situation, though I have no idea what it would be.
Best,
Donna

  On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  Guys,

  I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, 
I'm quite embarrassed.

  I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were saying.

  I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which 
you purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the 
ITunes store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you like 
something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy it!  If you 
don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple.  Well?  It is simple, 
until we start talking about the music you bought before Itunes Music went into 
effect.  I dono if this is what you all meant about not cancelling ITunes 
match, but actually, I didn't have Match to start with.  I did! however, have 
somewhere in the neighborhood of over 1500 songs which I'd purchased over the 
years.  So, one of those songs is no longer available on ITunes.  Thank God I 
had the CD of it, and was able to just reimport it, but that's not the point.

  I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to 
then find, both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor 
with vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there!  Like, 
I can't even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my previously 
purchased Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not aware of it, I'm one 
effing pissed off little dude!  I have literally probably over the years spent 
over 5 to 10 thousand dollars on music and other content.  Suffice it to say, 
if they removed the ability for me to get that stuff back when needed, that! I 
don't! agree with!  I see now why you all were so ticked off, if that's what 
you meant.  I thought you just meant going forward you were ticked that you 
couldn't just have your music for free and own it.

  I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention, a major! 
lawsuit with this one, if my theory is correct that they actually indeed did! 
remove the purchased section.

  Chris.


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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

You're not the only one!

I just tried and was able to download something from my purchases which 
wasn't in my ICloud Music, so I'm with ya.  I don't get it.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Quinn" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


but, let me get this straight with itunes match. So does this mean that, as 
I'd asked earlier, I'd let my subscription lapse, but got back those songs 
when I subscribed to apple music, but can't download them. those tracks are 
not available any more? I'm confused! :)


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Yeah, I don't know why Apple nor myself could find the link before.  Talk 
about a scare!


Let me, as I said call them back, as it's not fair to them to demand 
compensation for a mistake I made.  Not only that, but I feel I owe them a 
big apology.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 


To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


Folks,
I can see why you are hacked off, but I can confirm this is a false alarm. 
I just went into iTunes, selected the "iTunes Store" radio button, used 
the links menu, and, there it was, purchased! I clicked on that, and can 
see all I ever purchased, at least that is still available, from the 
iTunes Store.

Chris


Visit my groups:

The Chat Zone
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The Tech Zone
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On 6 Jul 2015, at 18:58, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hey Chris,

No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact 
of Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of 
caution.  I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to 
have DRM protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will 
impact my purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able 
to get your stuff back.  I don't think that Apple would deliberately take 
away content that has been legitimately purchased, so I imagine that 
there's a solution to your situation, though I have no idea what it would 
be.

Best,
Donna
On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Guys,

I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, 
I'm quite embarrassed.


I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were 
saying.


I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the 
ITunes store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you 
like something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy 
it!  If you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple. 
Well?  It is simple, until we start talking about the music you bought 
before Itunes Music went into effect.  I dono if this is what you all 
meant about not cancelling ITunes match, but actually, I didn't have 
Match to start with.  I did! however, have somewhere in the neighborhood 
of over 1500 songs which I'd purchased over the years.  So, one of those 
songs is no longer available on ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of it, 
and was able to just reimport it, but that's not the point.


I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then 
find, both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor 
with vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there! 
Like, I can't even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my 
previously purchased Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not 
aware of it, I'm one effing pissed off little dude!  I have literally 
probably over the years spent over 5 to 10 thousand dollars on music and 
other content.  Suffice it to say, if they removed the ability for me to 
get that stuff back when needed, that! I don't! agree with!  I see now 
why you all were so ticked off, if that's what you meant.  I thought you 
just meant going forward you were ticked that you couldn't just have 
your music for free and own it.


I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention, a major! 
lawsuit with this one, if my theory is correct that they actually indeed 
did! remove the purchased section.


Chris.

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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Joe Quinn]

I just tried too, but wasn't able to download, or play, for that matter,  any 
file that I'd previously matched when I had my itunes match sub. What should I 
do? disable icloud music library and try again?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> You're not the only one!
> 
> I just tried and was able to download something from my purchases which 
> wasn't in my ICloud Music, so I'm with ya.  I don't get it.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Joe Quinn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others
> 
> 
> but, let me get this straight with itunes match. So does this mean that, as 
> I'd asked earlier, I'd let my subscription lapse, but got back those songs 
> when I subscribed to apple music, but can't download them. those tracks are 
> not available any more? I'm confused! :)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, I don't know why Apple nor myself could find the link before.  Talk 
>> about a scare!
>> 
>> Let me, as I said call them back, as it's not fair to them to demand 
>> compensation for a mistake I made.  Not only that, but I feel I owe them a 
>> big apology.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
>> 
>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others
>> 
>> 
>> Folks,
>> I can see why you are hacked off, but I can confirm this is a false alarm. I 
>> just went into iTunes, selected the "iTunes Store" radio button, used the 
>> links menu, and, there it was, purchased! I clicked on that, and can see all 
>> I ever purchased, at least that is still available, from the iTunes Store.
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> Visit my groups:
>> 
>> The Chat Zone
>> the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
>> The Tech Zone
>> the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
>> Apple Music
>> apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6 Jul 2015, at 18:58, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Chris,
>>> 
>>> No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact 
>>> of Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of 
>>> caution.  I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to 
>>> have DRM protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact 
>>> my purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get 
>>> your stuff back.  I don't think that Apple would deliberately take away 
>>> content that has been legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a 
>>> solution to your situation, though I have no idea what it would be.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
 On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  wrote:
 
 Guys,
 
 I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm 
 quite embarrassed.
 
 I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
 ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were saying.
 
 I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
 purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the 
 ITunes store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you 
 like something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy 
 it!  If you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple. Well? 
  It is simple, until we start talking about the music you bought before 
 Itunes Music went into effect.  I dono if this is what you all meant about 
 not cancelling ITunes match, but actually, I didn't have Match to start 
 with.  I did! however, have somewhere in the neighborhood of over 1500 
 songs which I'd purchased over the years.  So, one of those songs is no 
 longer available on ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of it, and was able to 
 just reimport it, but that's not the point.
 
 I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then 
 find, both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor 
 with vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there! 
 Like, I can't even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my 
 previously purchased Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not aware 
 of it, I'm one effing pissed off little dude!  I have literally probably 
 over the years spent over 5 to 10 thousand dollars on music and other 
 content.  Suffice it to say, if they removed the ability for me to get 
 that stuff back when needed, that! I don't! agree with!  I see now why you 
 all were so ticked off, if that's what you meant.  I thought you just 
 meant going forward you were ticked that you couldn't just have your music 
 for free and own it.
 
 I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention,

Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Joe Quinn]

also, on a sort of related note, how do I, in itunes, see what type of music I 
have, be it matched, uploaded, or apple music? All I see in my culumns that's 
even remotely close to what I want, is whether it's local, or if I have to 
download it. any ideas?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I don't know why Apple nor myself could find the link before.  Talk 
> about a scare!
> 
> Let me, as I said call them back, as it's not fair to them to demand 
> compensation for a mistake I made.  Not only that, but I feel I owe them a 
> big apology.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
> 
> To: "macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
> Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others
> 
> 
> Folks,
> I can see why you are hacked off, but I can confirm this is a false alarm. I 
> just went into iTunes, selected the "iTunes Store" radio button, used the 
> links menu, and, there it was, purchased! I clicked on that, and can see all 
> I ever purchased, at least that is still available, from the iTunes Store.
> Chris
> 
> 
> Visit my groups:
> 
> The Chat Zone
> the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
> The Tech Zone
> the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
> Apple Music
> apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6 Jul 2015, at 18:58, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Chris,
>> 
>> No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact of 
>> Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of caution.  
>> I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to have DRM 
>> protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact my 
>> purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get your 
>> stuff back.  I don't think that Apple would deliberately take away content 
>> that has been legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a solution 
>> to your situation, though I have no idea what it would be.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Guys,
>>> 
>>> I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm 
>>> quite embarrassed.
>>> 
>>> I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
>>> ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were saying.
>>> 
>>> I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
>>> purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the 
>>> ITunes store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you 
>>> like something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy it! 
>>>  If you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple. Well?  It 
>>> is simple, until we start talking about the music you bought before Itunes 
>>> Music went into effect.  I dono if this is what you all meant about not 
>>> cancelling ITunes match, but actually, I didn't have Match to start with.  
>>> I did! however, have somewhere in the neighborhood of over 1500 songs which 
>>> I'd purchased over the years.  So, one of those songs is no longer 
>>> available on ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of it, and was able to just 
>>> reimport it, but that's not the point.
>>> 
>>> I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then 
>>> find, both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor 
>>> with vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there! 
>>> Like, I can't even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my 
>>> previously purchased Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not aware 
>>> of it, I'm one effing pissed off little dude!  I have literally probably 
>>> over the years spent over 5 to 10 thousand dollars on music and other 
>>> content.  Suffice it to say, if they removed the ability for me to get that 
>>> stuff back when needed, that! I don't! agree with!  I see now why you all 
>>> were so ticked off, if that's what you meant.  I thought you just meant 
>>> going forward you were ticked that you couldn't just have your music for 
>>> free and own it.
>>> 
>>> I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention, a major! lawsuit 
>>> with this one, if my theory is correct that they actually indeed did! 
>>> remove the purchased section.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
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Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot since upgrading to IOS 8.4?

[Donna Goodin]

Yeah, I'm hoping to avoid a Restore, but that probably is my next step.  
thanks, though.
Donna
> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> No problems here, you might have a hardware problem. 
> 
> Try restoring the device. If the symptoms continue seek assistance from 
> AppleCare. 
> 
> Sadam. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7 Jul 2015, at 4:14 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> this has happened two or three times since i upgraded.  My phone just seems 
>> to run super hot for no apparent reason, and powering it on and off doesn't 
>> take care of it.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I'm on an iPhone 6.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot since upgrading to IOS 8.4?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Chris,

No, it doesn't get hot enough to burn me, but it's way hotter than a phone 
should be.  I can keep it from over heating by turning it off and letting it 
sit for a while, but this is clearly a new behavior, and not a good one.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I agree, before it overheats!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sadam Ahmed" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:24 PM
> Subject: Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot 
> since upgrading to IOS 8.4?
> 
> 
>> No problems here, you might have a hardware problem.
>> 
>> Try restoring the device. If the symptoms continue seek assistance from 
>> AppleCare.
>> 
>> Sadam.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Jul 2015, at 4:14 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> this has happened two or three times since i upgraded.  My phone just seems 
>>> to run super hot for no apparent reason, and powering it on and off doesn't 
>>> take care of it.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I'm on an iPhone 6.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Apple Music: Save songs, albums and playlists for offline listening | CIO

[christopher hallsworth]

> http://www.cio.com/article/2944216/apple-os/apple-music-save-songs-albums-and-playlists-for-offline-listening.html
>  
> 
> 
> Apple Music: Save songs, albums and playlists for offline listening
> 
> Apple Music has been called a streaming music service many times, but did you 
> know that Apple Music also lets you save music for offline listening too? 
> This means you don't actually need a network connection once the music has 
> been saved to your iOS device, Mac or PC.
> 
> In this tip I'll show you how you can save albums, songs and playlists for 
> listening offline on your PC, Mac or iOS device via Apple Music.
> 
> How to save music from Apple Music for offline listening
> 
>  
> 
> Just tap the More Options icon, then tap on Make Available Offline to save 
> music for offline listening in Apple Music.
> 
> Just follow these simple steps for save music from Apple Music for offline 
> listening on your iOS device, Mac or PC.
> 
> On your iOS device:
> 
> 1. Find the song, album or playlist you want to save in the Music app.
> 
> 2. Tap the More Options icon (you'll find it to the right of the song, album 
> or playlist).
> 
> 3. Tap on Make Available Offline.
> 
> To listen to your saved music, just go to My Music then go to Library. 
> Playlists will show up under Playlists in My Music.
> 
> On your PC or Mac:
> 
>  
> 
> Find the song, playlist or album you want to save for offline listening, then 
> click the cloud icon in iTunes.
> 
> 1. Find the song, album or playlist you want to save for offline listening.
> 
> 2. Click the cloud icon to the right of the name of the item.
> 
> To see the music you've saved for offline listening in iTunes, click View in 
> the iTunes menubar and then click on Only Music Available Offline.
> 
> Apple Music offline listening can save money on data charges
> 
> I think offline listening is one of Apple Music's best features since it can 
> help save significant amounts of money on data charges. Why stream music via 
> your data connection when you can simply download it from Apple Music before 
> you leave the house? It's much easier to keep the music you like on your Mac, 
> PC or iOS device.
> 
> Offline listening is very important to me since I have a very low data plan 
> from Consumer Cellular. I love my plan since it's inexpensive and helps me 
> save money. But it also means that streaming music over my cellular 
> connection just wouldn't work well for me since it would run up my bill.
> 
> Thankfully, Apple has wisely made it very easy to save music for offline 
> listening in Apple Music. Thanks, Apple!
> 
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Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot since upgrading to IOS 8.4?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

No problems with my phone after updating.

Kawal.
On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:25, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi Chris,

No, it doesn't get hot enough to burn me, but it's way hotter than a phone 
should be.  I can keep it from over heating by turning it off and letting it 
sit for a while, but this is clearly a new behavior, and not a good one.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I agree, before it overheats!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sadam Ahmed" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:24 PM
> Subject: Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot 
> since upgrading to IOS 8.4?
> 
> 
>> No problems here, you might have a hardware problem.
>> 
>> Try restoring the device. If the symptoms continue seek assistance from 
>> AppleCare.
>> 
>> Sadam.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Jul 2015, at 4:14 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> this has happened two or three times since i upgraded.  My phone just seems 
>>> to run super hot for no apparent reason, and powering it on and off doesn't 
>>> take care of it.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I'm on an iPhone 6.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot since upgrading to IOS 8.4?

[Sadam Ahmed]

It might be worth running the diagnostic tool found at 

https://getsupport.apple.com/Issues.action 

>From your description it definitely sounds like a hardware problem. 

Sadam 

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> On 7 Jul 2015, at 5:19 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I'm hoping to avoid a Restore, but that probably is my next step.  
> thanks, though.
> Donna
>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> No problems here, you might have a hardware problem. 
>> 
>> Try restoring the device. If the symptoms continue seek assistance from 
>> AppleCare. 
>> 
>> Sadam. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Jul 2015, at 4:14 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> this has happened two or three times since i upgraded.  My phone just seems 
>>> to run super hot for no apparent reason, and powering it on and off doesn't 
>>> take care of it.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I'm on an iPhone 6.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

So wonderful.  Turns out Daniel was right.  almost over 3/4 of my music has 
been hidden.  When I go in there and hit unhide all, it won't do it.


There are over 3000 things in there.  ITunes support is refusing to unhide 
everything for me.  They're telling me just to unhide things myself 
individually.  They won't even cooperate.  They've done it for me in the 
past when I hid about 300 hints on accident.


There is a rep now who has me on hold via phone who's checking with a few 
different departments to see what they can do.


This is ridiculous though!  I didn't even hide these things to start with, 
and I don't know even how I accidentally could have!  I've not even been in 
a place in ITunes where I could! have done so accidentially.


Frankly, Apple is rapidly losing my respect as far as ITunes Support goes.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Quinn" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


also, on a sort of related note, how do I, in itunes, see what type of music 
I have, be it matched, uploaded, or apple music? All I see in my culumns 
that's even remotely close to what I want, is whether it's local, or if I 
have to download it. any ideas?


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Yeah, I don't know why Apple nor myself could find the link before.  Talk 
about a scare!


Let me, as I said call them back, as it's not fair to them to demand 
compensation for a mistake I made.  Not only that, but I feel I owe them a 
big apology.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 


To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


Folks,
I can see why you are hacked off, but I can confirm this is a false alarm. 
I just went into iTunes, selected the "iTunes Store" radio button, used 
the links menu, and, there it was, purchased! I clicked on that, and can 
see all I ever purchased, at least that is still available, from the 
iTunes Store.

Chris


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On 6 Jul 2015, at 18:58, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hey Chris,

No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact 
of Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of 
caution.  I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to 
have DRM protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will 
impact my purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able 
to get your stuff back.  I don't think that Apple would deliberately take 
away content that has been legitimately purchased, so I imagine that 
there's a solution to your situation, though I have no idea what it would 
be.

Best,
Donna
On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Guys,

I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, 
I'm quite embarrassed.


I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were 
saying.


I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the 
ITunes store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you 
like something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy 
it!  If you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple. 
Well?  It is simple, until we start talking about the music you bought 
before Itunes Music went into effect.  I dono if this is what you all 
meant about not cancelling ITunes match, but actually, I didn't have 
Match to start with.  I did! however, have somewhere in the neighborhood 
of over 1500 songs which I'd purchased over the years.  So, one of those 
songs is no longer available on ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of it, 
and was able to just reimport it, but that's not the point.


I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then 
find, both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor 
with vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there! 
Like, I can't even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my 
previously purchased Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, and I'm not 
aware of it, I'm one effing pissed off little dude!  I have literally 
probably over the years spent over 5 to 10 thousand dollars on music and 
other content.  Suffice it to say, if they removed the ability for me to 
get that stuff back when needed, that! I don't! agree with!  I see now 
why you all were so ticked off, if that's what you meant.  I thought you 
just meant going forward you were ticked that you couldn't just have 
your music for free and own it.


I could see Apple getting in a major! and did I mention, a major! 
lawsuit with this

Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot since upgrading to IOS 8.4?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

At least it doesn't burn you.  Hope you get this figured out.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Donna Goodin" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot 
since upgrading to IOS 8.4?




Hi Chris,

No, it doesn't get hot enough to burn me, but it's way hotter than a phone 
should be.  I can keep it from over heating by turning it off and letting 
it sit for a while, but this is clearly a new behavior, and not a good 
one.

Cheers,
Donna
On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Yeah, I agree, before it overheats!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Sadam Ahmed" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* 
hot since upgrading to IOS 8.4?




No problems here, you might have a hardware problem.

Try restoring the device. If the symptoms continue seek assistance from 
AppleCare.


Sadam.

Sent from my iPhone

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Hi all,

this has happened two or three times since i upgraded.  My phone just 
seems to run super hot for no apparent reason, and powering it on and 
off doesn't take care of it.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I'm on an 
iPhone 6.

Cheers,
Donna

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My music collection

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi all
Slightly off topic, but letting you know I am going forward as far as music is 
concerned. I have discarded my entire CD collection today. Most of these were 
compilations, others were single CDs of albums from individual artists. I am 
also in the process of deleting my collection from both my Mac and PC. I have 
done it on my PC already, just need to do it on the Mac side. I will also 
remove any third party players from these platforms apart from iTunes which 
can't be removed on the Mac anyway. Going forward, I will now stream and, if I 
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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Daniel Miller]

Chris,

When that representative told you to delete your entire iCloud music library, 
what you did was in fact hide the purchases.
> On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> So wonderful.  Turns out Daniel was right.  almost over 3/4 of my music has 
> been hidden.  When I go in there and hit unhide all, it won't do it.
> 
> There are over 3000 things in there.  ITunes support is refusing to unhide 
> everything for me.  They're telling me just to unhide things myself 
> individually.  They won't even cooperate.  They've done it for me in the past 
> when I hid about 300 hints on accident.
> 
> There is a rep now who has me on hold via phone who's checking with a few 
> different departments to see what they can do.
> 
> This is ridiculous though!  I didn't even hide these things to start with, 
> and I don't know even how I accidentally could have!  I've not even been in a 
> place in ITunes where I could! have done so accidentially.
> 
> Frankly, Apple is rapidly losing my respect as far as ITunes Support goes.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Joe Quinn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others
> 
> 
> also, on a sort of related note, how do I, in itunes, see what type of music 
> I have, be it matched, uploaded, or apple music? All I see in my culumns 
> that's even remotely close to what I want, is whether it's local, or if I 
> have to download it. any ideas?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, I don't know why Apple nor myself could find the link before.  Talk 
>> about a scare!
>> 
>> Let me, as I said call them back, as it's not fair to them to demand 
>> compensation for a mistake I made.  Not only that, but I feel I owe them a 
>> big apology.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
>> 
>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others
>> 
>> 
>> Folks,
>> I can see why you are hacked off, but I can confirm this is a false alarm. I 
>> just went into iTunes, selected the "iTunes Store" radio button, used the 
>> links menu, and, there it was, purchased! I clicked on that, and can see all 
>> I ever purchased, at least that is still available, from the iTunes Store.
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
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>>> On 6 Jul 2015, at 18:58, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Chris,
>>> 
>>> No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact 
>>> of Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of 
>>> caution.  I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to 
>>> have DRM protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact 
>>> my purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get 
>>> your stuff back.  I don't think that Apple would deliberately take away 
>>> content that has been legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a 
>>> solution to your situation, though I have no idea what it would be.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
 On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  wrote:
 
 Guys,
 
 I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm 
 quite embarrassed.
 
 I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
 ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were saying.
 
 I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
 purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the 
 ITunes store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you 
 like something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy 
 it!  If you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple. Well? 
  It is simple, until we start talking about the music you bought before 
 Itunes Music went into effect.  I dono if this is what you all meant about 
 not cancelling ITunes match, but actually, I didn't have Match to start 
 with.  I did! however, have somewhere in the neighborhood of over 1500 
 songs which I'd purchased over the years.  So, one of those songs is no 
 longer available on ITunes.  Thank God I had the CD of it, and was able to 
 just reimport it, but that's not the point.
 
 I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then 
 find, both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list rotor 
 with vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not there! 
 Like, I can't even get to my purchased movies, my purchased apps, my 
 previously purchased Music, etc.  Unless they moved it, a

Re: My music collection

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Oh, it changed the way we listenned, all right.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: My music collection


Hi all
Slightly off topic, but letting you know I am going forward as far as music 
is concerned. I have discarded my entire CD collection today. Most of these 
were compilations, others were single CDs of albums from individual artists. 
I am also in the process of deleting my collection from both my Mac and PC. 
I have done it on my PC already, just need to do it on the Mac side. I will 
also remove any third party players from these platforms apart from iTunes 
which can't be removed on the Mac anyway. Going forward, I will now stream 
and, if I want to, save the music for offline listening. Apple was 
definitely right when they said "this will change the way we listen to 
music, forever". Long live the CD and offline music catalogues some of us 
have.



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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Right, I see that now.  Now it's just a matter a why the unhide all button 
is doing absolutely nothing when I hit vo+space on it!  They even tried on 
the back end doing it for me, and said it won't work for them either.  So 
now, I gotta wait while they figure out they're shit.


This really! is pissen me off!

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel Miller" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


Chris,

When that representative told you to delete your entire iCloud music 
library, what you did was in fact hide the purchases.
On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


So wonderful.  Turns out Daniel was right.  almost over 3/4 of my music 
has been hidden.  When I go in there and hit unhide all, it won't do it.


There are over 3000 things in there.  ITunes support is refusing to unhide 
everything for me.  They're telling me just to unhide things myself 
individually.  They won't even cooperate.  They've done it for me in the 
past when I hid about 300 hints on accident.


There is a rep now who has me on hold via phone who's checking with a few 
different departments to see what they can do.


This is ridiculous though!  I didn't even hide these things to start with, 
and I don't know even how I accidentally could have!  I've not even been 
in a place in ITunes where I could! have done so accidentially.


Frankly, Apple is rapidly losing my respect as far as ITunes Support goes.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Joe Quinn" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


also, on a sort of related note, how do I, in itunes, see what type of 
music I have, be it matched, uploaded, or apple music? All I see in my 
culumns that's even remotely close to what I want, is whether it's local, 
or if I have to download it. any ideas?


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Yeah, I don't know why Apple nor myself could find the link before.  Talk 
about a scare!


Let me, as I said call them back, as it's not fair to them to demand 
compensation for a mistake I made.  Not only that, but I feel I owe them 
a big apology.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 


To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


Folks,
I can see why you are hacked off, but I can confirm this is a false 
alarm. I just went into iTunes, selected the "iTunes Store" radio button, 
used the links menu, and, there it was, purchased! I clicked on that, and 
can see all I ever purchased, at least that is still available, from the 
iTunes Store.

Chris


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On 6 Jul 2015, at 18:58, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hey Chris,

No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the 
impact of Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in 
favor of caution.  I do want to own music that I like, I do not want 
that music to have DRM protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple 
music will impact my purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope 
you're able to get your stuff back.  I don't think that Apple would 
deliberately take away content that has been legitimately purchased, so 
I imagine that there's a solution to your situation, though I have no 
idea what it would be.

Best,
Donna
On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Guys,

I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, 
I'm quite embarrassed.


I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were 
saying.


I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which 
you purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through 
the ITunes store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If 
you like something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, 
buy it!  If you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and 
simple. Well?  It is simple, until we start talking about the music you 
bought before Itunes Music went into effect.  I dono if this is what 
you all meant about not cancelling ITunes match, but actually, I didn't 
have Match to start with.  I did! however, have somewhere in the 
neighborhood of over 1500 songs which I'd purchased over the years. 
So, one of those songs is no longer available on ITunes.  Thank God I 
had the CD of it, and was able to just reimport it, but that's not the 
point.


I went into the store, and tried after hitting command+shift+H to then 
find, both using the item chooser, as well as using the links list 
rotor with vo+U, to locate the purchased link.  Lo and behold, it's not 
there! Like, I can't even get to

Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Daniel Miller]

Try routing the mouse to the VO cursor and clicking the trackpad or pressing 
VO+shift+space.

> On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Right, I see that now.  Now it's just a matter a why the unhide all button is 
> doing absolutely nothing when I hit vo+space on it!  They even tried on the 
> back end doing it for me, and said it won't work for them either.  So now, I 
> gotta wait while they figure out they're shit.
> 
> This really! is pissen me off!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 4:37 PM
> Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others
> 
> 
> Chris,
> 
> When that representative told you to delete your entire iCloud music library, 
> what you did was in fact hide the purchases.
>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So wonderful.  Turns out Daniel was right.  almost over 3/4 of my music has 
>> been hidden.  When I go in there and hit unhide all, it won't do it.
>> 
>> There are over 3000 things in there.  ITunes support is refusing to unhide 
>> everything for me.  They're telling me just to unhide things myself 
>> individually.  They won't even cooperate.  They've done it for me in the 
>> past when I hid about 300 hints on accident.
>> 
>> There is a rep now who has me on hold via phone who's checking with a few 
>> different departments to see what they can do.
>> 
>> This is ridiculous though!  I didn't even hide these things to start with, 
>> and I don't know even how I accidentally could have!  I've not even been in 
>> a place in ITunes where I could! have done so accidentially.
>> 
>> Frankly, Apple is rapidly losing my respect as far as ITunes Support goes.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Joe Quinn" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others
>> 
>> 
>> also, on a sort of related note, how do I, in itunes, see what type of music 
>> I have, be it matched, uploaded, or apple music? All I see in my culumns 
>> that's even remotely close to what I want, is whether it's local, or if I 
>> have to download it. any ideas?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I don't know why Apple nor myself could find the link before.  Talk 
>>> about a scare!
>>> 
>>> Let me, as I said call them back, as it's not fair to them to demand 
>>> compensation for a mistake I made.  Not only that, but I feel I owe them a 
>>> big apology.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
>>> 
>>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> I can see why you are hacked off, but I can confirm this is a false alarm. 
>>> I just went into iTunes, selected the "iTunes Store" radio button, used the 
>>> links menu, and, there it was, purchased! I clicked on that, and can see 
>>> all I ever purchased, at least that is still available, from the iTunes 
>>> Store.
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Visit my groups:
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
 On 6 Jul 2015, at 18:58, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hey Chris,
 
 No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact 
 of Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of 
 caution.  I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to 
 have DRM protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact 
 my purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get 
 your stuff back.  I don't think that Apple would deliberately take away 
 content that has been legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a 
 solution to your situation, though I have no idea what it would be.
 Best,
 Donna
> On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm 
> quite embarrassed.
> 
> I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
> ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were 
> saying.
> 
> I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
> purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the 
> ITunes store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you 
> like something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy 
> it!  If you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple. 
> Well?  It is simple, until we start talking about the music you bought 
> before Itunes Music went into eff

Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Already tried both a those.  No good.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel Miller" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


Try routing the mouse to the VO cursor and clicking the trackpad or pressing 
VO+shift+space.


On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Right, I see that now.  Now it's just a matter a why the unhide all button 
is doing absolutely nothing when I hit vo+space on it!  They even tried on 
the back end doing it for me, and said it won't work for them either.  So 
now, I gotta wait while they figure out they're shit.


This really! is pissen me off!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


Chris,

When that representative told you to delete your entire iCloud music 
library, what you did was in fact hide the purchases.
On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


So wonderful.  Turns out Daniel was right.  almost over 3/4 of my music 
has been hidden.  When I go in there and hit unhide all, it won't do it.


There are over 3000 things in there.  ITunes support is refusing to 
unhide everything for me.  They're telling me just to unhide things 
myself individually.  They won't even cooperate.  They've done it for me 
in the past when I hid about 300 hints on accident.


There is a rep now who has me on hold via phone who's checking with a few 
different departments to see what they can do.


This is ridiculous though!  I didn't even hide these things to start 
with, and I don't know even how I accidentally could have!  I've not even 
been in a place in ITunes where I could! have done so accidentially.


Frankly, Apple is rapidly losing my respect as far as ITunes Support 
goes.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Joe Quinn" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


also, on a sort of related note, how do I, in itunes, see what type of 
music I have, be it matched, uploaded, or apple music? All I see in my 
culumns that's even remotely close to what I want, is whether it's local, 
or if I have to download it. any ideas?


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Yeah, I don't know why Apple nor myself could find the link before. 
Talk about a scare!


Let me, as I said call them back, as it's not fair to them to demand 
compensation for a mistake I made.  Not only that, but I feel I owe them 
a big apology.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 


To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others


Folks,
I can see why you are hacked off, but I can confirm this is a false 
alarm. I just went into iTunes, selected the "iTunes Store" radio 
button, used the links menu, and, there it was, purchased! I clicked on 
that, and can see all I ever purchased, at least that is still 
available, from the iTunes Store.

Chris


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On 6 Jul 2015, at 18:58, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hey Chris,

No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the 
impact of Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in 
favor of caution.  I do want to own music that I like, I do not want 
that music to have DRM protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple 
music will impact my purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope 
you're able to get your stuff back.  I don't think that Apple would 
deliberately take away content that has been legitimately purchased, so 
I imagine that there's a solution to your situation, though I have no 
idea what it would be.

Best,
Donna
On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Guys,

I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, 
I'm quite embarrassed.


I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were 
saying.


I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which 
you purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through 
the ITunes store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So? 
If you like something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, 
then, buy it!  If you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and 
simple. Well?  It is simple, until we start talking about the music 
you bought before Itunes Music went into effect.  I dono if this is 
what you all meant about not cancelling ITunes match, but actually, I 
didn't have Match to start with.  I did! however, have somewhere in 
the neighborhood of over 1500 songs which I'd purchased over the 
years. So, one of those songs is no longer avail

Apple certification.

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All, 

Can anyone give me experiences on taking the Apple certification for Mac or 
iOS? 

Thanks in advance for any assistance. 

Kind regards, 

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Re: My music collection

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Oh, glad you agree, Chris. I have to say it's only a week, and it has been 
nothing but a success on this side. Long may this continue.
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> On 6 Jul 2015, at 21:46, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Oh, it changed the way we listenned, all right.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
> 
> To: "macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 4:31 PM
> Subject: My music collection
> 
> 
> Hi all
> Slightly off topic, but letting you know I am going forward as far as music 
> is concerned. I have discarded my entire CD collection today. Most of these 
> were compilations, others were single CDs of albums from individual artists. 
> I am also in the process of deleting my collection from both my Mac and PC. I 
> have done it on my PC already, just need to do it on the Mac side. I will 
> also remove any third party players from these platforms apart from iTunes 
> which can't be removed on the Mac anyway. Going forward, I will now stream 
> and, if I want to, save the music for offline listening. Apple was definitely 
> right when they said "this will change the way we listen to music, forever". 
> Long live the CD and offline music catalogues some of us have.
> 
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Re: My music collection

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Chris, I was being extremely! sarcastic.

I love Apple music, yes, but I don't love how the ITunes Store support 
idiots are treating my issue right now.  Why can't the A-holes just unhide 
my music for me on the backend, like they did once.  This isn't even my 
fault!  I'm not the one who advised to delete my whole library from ICloud. 
I'm only doing what that stupid rep told me to do!


I'm sorry guys if it sounds like I'm all drama mamma in my soapbox right 
now, but all things considered, can you blame me, honestly for being so damn 
pissed off?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: My music collection


Oh, glad you agree, Chris. I have to say it's only a week, and it has been 
nothing but a success on this side. Long may this continue.

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On 6 Jul 2015, at 21:46, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


Oh, it changed the way we listenned, all right.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 


To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: My music collection


Hi all
Slightly off topic, but letting you know I am going forward as far as 
music is concerned. I have discarded my entire CD collection today. Most 
of these were compilations, others were single CDs of albums from 
individual artists. I am also in the process of deleting my collection 
from both my Mac and PC. I have done it on my PC already, just need to do 
it on the Mac side. I will also remove any third party players from these 
platforms apart from iTunes which can't be removed on the Mac anyway. 
Going forward, I will now stream and, if I want to, save the music for 
offline listening. Apple was definitely right when they said "this will 
change the way we listen to music, forever". Long live the CD and offline 
music catalogues some of us have.



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Followup to my hidden music issue

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

So, it looks like things are unhiding, but it's taking for ungodly! ever!  I do 
see it progressing though.

So, there went another rep who obviously didn't know what they were doing!  
Thjey told me regardless how many things I had, once I hit unhide all, all 
things then would be unhidden almost instantly.  Not? apparently the case.  Do  
these support reps really get any training?  Again, sorry for all the drama, 
but this is ridiculous!  Well, look on the bright side, you all won't have to 
listen to me complain anymore.  It looks like it's doing it finally.  It's just 
taking forever and a day!

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Re: My music collection

[christopher hallsworth]

Yes it doesn't sound like they are treating you the way they should with any 
other customer. I've had no issues with my purchased music, intentional or 
otherwise.
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> On 6 Jul 2015, at 22:12, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Chris, I was being extremely! sarcastic.
> 
> I love Apple music, yes, but I don't love how the ITunes Store support idiots 
> are treating my issue right now.  Why can't the A-holes just unhide my music 
> for me on the backend, like they did once.  This isn't even my fault!  I'm 
> not the one who advised to delete my whole library from ICloud. I'm only 
> doing what that stupid rep told me to do!
> 
> I'm sorry guys if it sounds like I'm all drama mamma in my soapbox right now, 
> but all things considered, can you blame me, honestly for being so damn 
> pissed off?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
> 
> To: "macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: My music collection
> 
> 
> Oh, glad you agree, Chris. I have to say it's only a week, and it has been 
> nothing but a success on this side. Long may this continue.
> Chris
> 
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>> On 6 Jul 2015, at 21:46, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, it changed the way we listenned, all right.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
>> 
>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 4:31 PM
>> Subject: My music collection
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all
>> Slightly off topic, but letting you know I am going forward as far as music 
>> is concerned. I have discarded my entire CD collection today. Most of these 
>> were compilations, others were single CDs of albums from individual artists. 
>> I am also in the process of deleting my collection from both my Mac and PC. 
>> I have done it on my PC already, just need to do it on the Mac side. I will 
>> also remove any third party players from these platforms apart from iTunes 
>> which can't be removed on the Mac anyway. Going forward, I will now stream 
>> and, if I want to, save the music for offline listening. Apple was 
>> definitely right when they said "this will change the way we listen to 
>> music, forever". Long live the CD and offline music catalogues some of us 
>> have.
>> 
>> 
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Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others

[christopher hallsworth]

Ah, thank goodness, I had a sneaky suspicion that you wouldn't really have to 
re-purchase the music all over again. There has clearly been some not so true 
words you got from the representative. For a few years now, Apple would let you 
re-download any purchased content, not just music. With the introduction of 
Apple Music, this has clearly not been changed.
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> On 6 Jul 2015, at 21:37, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> When that representative told you to delete your entire iCloud music library, 
> what you did was in fact hide the purchases.
>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So wonderful.  Turns out Daniel was right.  almost over 3/4 of my music has 
>> been hidden.  When I go in there and hit unhide all, it won't do it.
>> 
>> There are over 3000 things in there.  ITunes support is refusing to unhide 
>> everything for me.  They're telling me just to unhide things myself 
>> individually.  They won't even cooperate.  They've done it for me in the 
>> past when I hid about 300 hints on accident.
>> 
>> There is a rep now who has me on hold via phone who's checking with a few 
>> different departments to see what they can do.
>> 
>> This is ridiculous though!  I didn't even hide these things to start with, 
>> and I don't know even how I accidentally could have!  I've not even been in 
>> a place in ITunes where I could! have done so accidentially.
>> 
>> Frankly, Apple is rapidly losing my respect as far as ITunes Support goes.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Joe Quinn" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others
>> 
>> 
>> also, on a sort of related note, how do I, in itunes, see what type of music 
>> I have, be it matched, uploaded, or apple music? All I see in my culumns 
>> that's even remotely close to what I want, is whether it's local, or if I 
>> have to download it. any ideas?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I don't know why Apple nor myself could find the link before.  Talk 
>>> about a scare!
>>> 
>>> Let me, as I said call them back, as it's not fair to them to demand 
>>> compensation for a mistake I made.  Not only that, but I feel I owe them a 
>>> big apology.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
>>> 
>>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 2:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: My Profuse! apology to Donna and others
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> I can see why you are hacked off, but I can confirm this is a false alarm. 
>>> I just went into iTunes, selected the "iTunes Store" radio button, used the 
>>> links menu, and, there it was, purchased! I clicked on that, and can see 
>>> all I ever purchased, at least that is still available, from the iTunes 
>>> Store.
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6 Jul 2015, at 18:58, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hey Chris,
 
 No worries.  there's still a lot of confusion around just what the impact 
 of Apple Music is going to be, which is why I was arguing in favor of 
 caution.  I do want to own music that I like, I do not want that music to 
 have DRM protection.  So, till I know for sure how Apple music will impact 
 my purchased music, I'm staying clear of it.  I hope you're able to get 
 your stuff back.  I don't think that Apple would deliberately take away 
 content that has been legitimately purchased, so I imagine that there's a 
 solution to your situation, though I have no idea what it would be.
 Best,
 Donna
> On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I'm sending this mail totally in humilliation.  I must say right now, I'm 
> quite embarrassed.
> 
> I see now what the whole hyfe was about owning your own music through 
> ITunes.  The truth be it, I totally misunderstood what you all were 
> saying.
> 
> I thought that what you all meant was going forward, any music which you 
> purchased you couldn't own unless you literally bought it through the 
> ITunes store.  You can imagine why this had me going, yeah? So?  If you 
> like something enough after streaming it through Apple Music, then, buy 
> it!  If you don't like it that well, then don't.  Plaine and simple. 
> Well?  It is simple, until we start talking about the music you bought 
> before Itunes Music went into effect.  I dono if this is what you all 
> meant about not cancelling ITunes

Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot since upgrading to IOS 8.4?

[matthew Dyer]

Hi,

I have an iPhone 5s with iOS 8.4 and have notes the same thing.  I wondered 
about this for some time  If I am not using it I am fine.  I find that they 
only get hot if I am doing something on my phone.

HTH.

Matthew


> On Jul 6, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> this has happened two or three times since i upgraded.  My phone just seems 
> to run super hot for no apparent reason, and powering it on and off doesn't 
> take care of it.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I'm on an iPhone 6.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Cs it possible to format mac with VoiceOver?

[Buddy Brannan]

Safe mode? I know nothing of this safe mode. CMD+r is the recovery partition. 

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> On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:42 AM, 'onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Great, thanks Buddy, I'll give that a go. I tried booting into safemode a 
> couple of days ago but that wouldn't talk, even with command f5. I'm going to 
> be doing the format in a couple of hours. Just backing things up to a second 
> USB drive. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 6 Jul 2015, at 14:01, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
>> 
>> No sighted help required. Shut down your Mac and then restart it while 
>> holding down CMD+r as it chimes. Wait a few seconds, then let go. Wait a bit 
>> longer and press CMD+F5. You can access disk utility from here with Fred. 
>> Fred will walk you through a disk erase, then an OS reinstall. 
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>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 8:44 AM, 'onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I've managed to do something stupid with read write permitions and now 
>>> my mac is running rediculously slow. I've tried repairin permitions but 
>>> that hasn't helped. I think it might be a good idea for a format anyway, so 
>>> I was wondering whether it is possible to do this without sighted help, or 
>>> am I going to have to call in the eyes on this one?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.Sent from my iPhone
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Re: My music collection

[Ray Foret Jr]

Well, you know Chris, I can't and do not blame yuh.  Take my example.  There 
are five custom albums which I compiled and which cannot be matched by Apple 
because their content does not exist in the Apple iTunes cloud or collections.  
When ever I go in to my phone and turn on Music in the cloud from 
settings/music, and I press the murge button, all five of these albums get 
thrown right out of my phone.  When I try to add them to icloud, (supposing 
that this might be a solution), they never get added.  So, when ever I want to 
play these custom albums, I have to turn off cloud music and then re add these 
items to my phone.  Then, if by chance I want to stream something from my cloud 
library, I have to turn on cloud music then redo everything once I'm done.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

> On Jul 6, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Chris, I was being extremely! sarcastic.
> 
> I love Apple music, yes, but I don't love how the ITunes Store support idiots 
> are treating my issue right now.  Why can't the A-holes just unhide my music 
> for me on the backend, like they did once.  This isn't even my fault!  I'm 
> not the one who advised to delete my whole library from ICloud. I'm only 
> doing what that stupid rep told me to do!
> 
> I'm sorry guys if it sounds like I'm all drama mamma in my soapbox right now, 
> but all things considered, can you blame me, honestly for being so damn 
> pissed off?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
> 
> To: "macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: My music collection
> 
> 
> Oh, glad you agree, Chris. I have to say it's only a week, and it has been 
> nothing but a success on this side. Long may this continue.
> Chris
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6 Jul 2015, at 21:46, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, it changed the way we listenned, all right.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
>> 
>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 4:31 PM
>> Subject: My music collection
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all
>> Slightly off topic, but letting you know I am going forward as far as music 
>> is concerned. I have discarded my entire CD collection today. Most of these 
>> were compilations, others were single CDs of albums from individual artists. 
>> I am also in the process of deleting my collection from both my Mac and PC. 
>> I have done it on my PC already, just need to do it on the Mac side. I will 
>> also remove any third party players from these platforms apart from iTunes 
>> which can't be removed on the Mac anyway. Going forward, I will now stream 
>> and, if I want to, save the music for offline listening. Apple was 
>> definitely right when they said "this will change the way we listen to 
>> music, forever". Long live the CD and offline music catalogues some of us 
>> have.
>> 
>> 
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Re: ftp client for the mac

[Shaf]

Transmit rules.

On 7/6/2015 6:45 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone suggest a good ftp client for use with the mac?  I’ve heard about 
one called transport or something like that, but can’t find it in the app 
store..

thanks!
Caitlyn



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Re: Cs it possible to format mac with VoiceOver?

['onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries]

Well that worked absolutely fine. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 6 Jul 2015, at 23:32, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
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> 
>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:42 AM, 'onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Great, thanks Buddy, I'll give that a go. I tried booting into safemode a 
>> couple of days ago but that wouldn't talk, even with command f5. I'm going 
>> to be doing the format in a couple of hours. Just backing things up to a 
>> second USB drive. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 6 Jul 2015, at 14:01, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No sighted help required. Shut down your Mac and then restart it while 
>>> holding down CMD+r as it chimes. Wait a few seconds, then let go. Wait a 
>>> bit longer and press CMD+F5. You can access disk utility from here with 
>>> Fred. Fred will walk you through a disk erase, then an OS reinstall. 
>>> 
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>>> Phone: 814-860-3194 
>>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>>> Email: bu...@brannan.name
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 6, 2015, at 8:44 AM, 'onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi, I've managed to do something stupid with read write permitions and now 
 my mac is running rediculously slow. I've tried repairin permitions but 
 that hasn't helped. I think it might be a good idea for a format anyway, 
 so I was wondering whether it is possible to do this without sighted help, 
 or am I going to have to call in the eyes on this one?
 
 Thanks.Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: ftp client for the mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I agree, I love it.  That said, someone suggested Cute FTP.  Is that 
actually available for the mac, and if so is it accessible?  I'd like to at 
least try it, if so.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shaf" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: ftp client for the mac


Transmit rules.

On 7/6/2015 6:45 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone suggest a good ftp client for use with the mac?  I’ve heard 
about one called transport or something like that, but can’t find it in 
the app store..


thanks!
Caitlyn



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braille translation software

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi all!
does anyone know of any braille translation software for the mac?  Free if 
possible?  I have a few files that I need to back translate from formatted 
braille.  Any help would be appreciated.
Jim

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Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot since upgrading to IOS 8.4?

[Donna Goodin]

Thanks, Matthew.  Good to know I'm not the only one - that hopefully speaks to 
it not being a hardware problem.  Yes, I agree, it gets hot if I'm doing 
something on the phone, and also some times when the phone is charging.  If you 
learn anything further let me know, and I'll do the same for you.
Best,
Donna
> On Jul 6, 2015, at 4:59 PM, matthew Dyer  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have an iPhone 5s with iOS 8.4 and have notes the same thing.  I wondered 
> about this for some time  If I am not using it I am fine.  I find that they 
> only get hot if I am doing something on my phone.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> this has happened two or three times since i upgraded.  My phone just seems 
>> to run super hot for no apparent reason, and powering it on and off doesn't 
>> take care of it.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I'm on an iPhone 6.
>> Cheers,
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Re: anyone else having trouble with their iPhone running *very* hot since upgrading to IOS 8.4?

[Donna Goodin]

thanks, Sadam, I will give this a try.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> It might be worth running the diagnostic tool found at 
> 
> https://getsupport.apple.com/Issues.action 
>  
> 
> From your description it definitely sounds like a hardware problem. 
> 
> Sadam 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
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> 
> On 7 Jul 2015, at 5:19 am, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
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>> Yeah, I'm hoping to avoid a Restore, but that probably is my next step.  
>> thanks, though.
>> Donna
>>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Sadam Ahmed >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> No problems here, you might have a hardware problem. 
>>> 
>>> Try restoring the device. If the symptoms continue seek assistance from 
>>> AppleCare. 
>>> 
>>> Sadam. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 
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>>> 
>>> 
 On 7 Jul 2015, at 4:14 am, Donna Goodin >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 this has happened two or three times since i upgraded.  My phone just 
 seems to run super hot for no apparent reason, and powering it on and off 
 doesn't take care of it.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I'm on an iPhone 
 6.
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Re: My music collection

[Blee Blat]

How did you go about removing the local music without removing it from your 
library? I'd like to do similar here as music is my largest data chunk and 
Apple Music has better quality versions of a lot of stuff that I had  plus this 
is obviously more convenient than trying to sync 300 GB of data between 
devices. I also notice that we seem to have got sound quality improvements in 
the latest music app on both iOS and OS X unless the ears are deceiving. So as 
a result I find I'm just as likely to use the phone for music as the computer, 
it's whatever device is handy for what I'm doing.

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new to the list

[Donald Goosens]

Î   My name is Donald and I am new to the list.  I bought a used 
MackBook a couple of years ago and have read some books from BookShare.  I have 
a wireless keyboard that I assume came with the computer. It has no numpad.  It 
does have command, option, control and function key.  Where can I find a list 
of key commands that will help me with this keyboard?  Also, Can a totally 
blind person effectively use the drag and drop feature with VoiceOver?  I know 
I have so many questions and I want to thank all of you in advance for your help

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Re: My music collection

[Blee Blat]

Interesting. It uploaded custom albums just fine here. I was able to stream 
several that aren't in Apple's collection. I'm not sure what tags it matches on 
maybe yours weren't tagged acceptably. I have some unknown albums that are 
improperly tagged that it won't stream but it uploaded them it just has no idea 
what to do with them. So someone needs to figure out what's an acceptable 
tagging rule for their algorithms. That is, what fields must be filled in for 
it to let you  play the music from all devices. I made an artist called Stuff 
with albums called Stuff0 and Stuff1 for some albums whose tracks I'm too lazy 
to look up titles for which aren't in the CD Database and those don't stream 
correctly I think it doesn't like several tracks called Track01 and Track02 and 
such.

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Re: new to the list

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

1.  Navigate to  the item you wish to drag.

2.  Route your mouse pointer to the Voiceover cursor with vo+Command+F5.

3.  Press vo+command+shift+spacebar to begin the drag drop process.

4.  Navigate to the item where you want to drop the item you're dragging.

5.  Route your mouse once again with vo+Command+F5.

6.  Drop the item, thereby finnishing the process by pressing 
vo+command+shift+spacebar once again.



Note that perhaps an easier way is to:

1.  Locate the first item which you want to drag and drop.

2.  Press vo+Comma.

3.  Locate where you wish to drop the item.

4.  Press vo+period.

I've found this method not to be nearly as reliable though.

Chris.

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Subject: new to the list


Î My name is Donald and I am new to the list.  I bought a used MackBook a 
couple of years ago and have read some books from BookShare.  I have a 
wireless keyboard that I assume came with the computer. It has no numpad. 
It does have command, option, control and function key.  Where can I find a 
list of key commands that will help me with this keyboard?  Also, Can a 
totally blind person effectively use the drag and drop feature with 
VoiceOver?  I know I have so many questions and I want to thank all of you 
in advance for your help


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Re: Followup to my hidden music issue

[Brent Harding]

I ended up with enough supposedly free music that wasn't U2, almost all bands 
me, or nobody else would've heard of, that after listening to, I didn't know 
how I would've purchased. I'm not sure if Apple has pushed no-name bands in 
addition to U2, or if some bug just made them appear in my purchase list 
without having been charged for them, but I'm glad I could finally delete them 
out of the Icloud library. At first I thought it was a hack, but I never saw 
charges associated with them, so Apple must've given away free music that just 
comes down throughout the years, but none of it panned out to be good for me.

  - Original Message - 
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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 4:21 PM
  Subject: Followup to my hidden music issue


  So, it looks like things are unhiding, but it's taking for ungodly! ever!  I 
do see it progressing though.

  So, there went another rep who obviously didn't know what they were doing!  
Thjey told me regardless how many things I had, once I hit unhide all, all 
things then would be unhidden almost instantly.  Not? apparently the case.  Do  
these support reps really get any training?  Again, sorry for all the drama, 
but this is ridiculous!  Well, look on the bright side, you all won't have to 
listen to me complain anymore.  It looks like it's doing it finally.  It's just 
taking forever and a day!

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Re: One iTunes Library for two computers, can this be done?

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

So the feature is gone or you're saying you no longer need it? It still 
seems to be there on 12.1.2. So if all my music was on one machine then 
I could turn on sharing and be able to access the tracks in that library 
from any other device on my home network, although I could only add 
tracks on the machine that hosts all the music.


CB

On 7/5/15 2:23 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Home sharing has, gone, at least for music.


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On 5 Jul 2015, at 17:33, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

Hi.

I wish to know if one can share one iTunes Library between two computers, 
namely, an I Mac and Mac Mini, over the same network please?  I am not very 
technical so something simple would be appreciated please.  I looked for Home 
sharing in the iTunes menus but it's not there since I updated to the 8.4 which 
contains Apple Music etc.

Someone from the list helped me to solve my Ring Tone query but now if someone 
else could tell me how I can have one iTunes Library for two computers then 
that would be great thank you.

Kawal.

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Re: My music collection

[Chris]

Hi
As for music quality, I agree and it's even good on the phone which is a 
4s. Surprising really as I was always put off by the smaller speakers on 
the phone compared to the tablet which is a Mini 2.


On 07/07/2015 02:53, Blee Blat wrote:

How did you go about removing the local music without removing it from your 
library? I'd like to do similar here as music is my largest data chunk and 
Apple Music has better quality versions of a lot of stuff that I had  plus this 
is obviously more convenient than trying to sync 300 GB of data between 
devices. I also notice that we seem to have got sound quality improvements in 
the latest music app on both iOS and OS X unless the ears are deceiving. So as 
a result I find I'm just as likely to use the phone for music as the computer, 
it's whatever device is handy for what I'm doing.



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Apple Music, A week already?

[Chris]

Hi all
Wow, it's a week already since the Apple Music service has been launched 
and at my end it's been nothing but a success. Sure there are bugs 
especially with the iCloud Music library, but on the whole it's working 
extremely well and I can tell Apple and the relevant parties has been 
working hard to get this up and running as smooth as possible, even on 
day 1.


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Re: My music collection

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I have a lot of album i bought from itunes that i can not find.
Don’t know where they’re gone.
I have a backup of course but shouldn’t such music be available in the Itunes 
store?
/A
> 6 jul 2015 kl. 23:28 skrev christopher hallsworth :
> 
> Yes it doesn't sound like they are treating you the way they should with any 
> other customer. I've had no issues with my purchased music, intentional or 
> otherwise.
> Chris
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>> On 6 Jul 2015, at 22:12, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
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>> 
>> Chris, I was being extremely! sarcastic.
>> 
>> I love Apple music, yes, but I don't love how the ITunes Store support 
>> idiots are treating my issue right now.  Why can't the A-holes just unhide 
>> my music for me on the backend, like they did once.  This isn't even my 
>> fault!  I'm not the one who advised to delete my whole library from ICloud. 
>> I'm only doing what that stupid rep told me to do!
>> 
>> I'm sorry guys if it sounds like I'm all drama mamma in my soapbox right 
>> now, but all things considered, can you blame me, honestly for being so damn 
>> pissed off?
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
>> 
>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: My music collection
>> 
>> 
>> Oh, glad you agree, Chris. I have to say it's only a week, and it has been 
>> nothing but a success on this side. Long may this continue.
>> Chris
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>>> On 6 Jul 2015, at 21:46, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, it changed the way we listenned, all right.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
>>> 
>>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 4:31 PM
>>> Subject: My music collection
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> Slightly off topic, but letting you know I am going forward as far as music 
>>> is concerned. I have discarded my entire CD collection today. Most of these 
>>> were compilations, others were single CDs of albums from individual 
>>> artists. I am also in the process of deleting my collection from both my 
>>> Mac and PC. I have done it on my PC already, just need to do it on the Mac 
>>> side. I will also remove any third party players from these platforms apart 
>>> from iTunes which can't be removed on the Mac anyway. Going forward, I will 
>>> now stream and, if I want to, save the music for offline listening. Apple 
>>> was definitely right when they said "this will change the way we listen to 
>>> music, forever". Long live the CD and offline music catalogues some of us 
>>> have.
>>> 
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Re: My music collection

[Chris]

They should be, unless it's no longer available. Depending on device, 
can you see everything in "my music" or only those made available offline?


On 07/07/2015 07:44, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I have a lot of album i bought from itunes that i can not find.
Don’t know where they’re gone.
I have a backup of course but shouldn’t such music be available in the Itunes 
store?
/A

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Yes it doesn't sound like they are treating you the way they should with any 
other customer. I've had no issues with my purchased music, intentional or 
otherwise.
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On 6 Jul 2015, at 22:12, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:

Chris, I was being extremely! sarcastic.

I love Apple music, yes, but I don't love how the ITunes Store support idiots 
are treating my issue right now.  Why can't the A-holes just unhide my music 
for me on the backend, like they did once.  This isn't even my fault!  I'm not 
the one who advised to delete my whole library from ICloud. I'm only doing what 
that stupid rep told me to do!

I'm sorry guys if it sounds like I'm all drama mamma in my soapbox right now, 
but all things considered, can you blame me, honestly for being so damn pissed 
off?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: My music collection


Oh, glad you agree, Chris. I have to say it's only a week, and it has been 
nothing but a success on this side. Long may this continue.
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On 6 Jul 2015, at 21:46, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:

Oh, it changed the way we listenned, all right.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: My music collection


Hi all
Slightly off topic, but letting you know I am going forward as far as music is concerned. 
I have discarded my entire CD collection today. Most of these were compilations, others 
were single CDs of albums from individual artists. I am also in the process of deleting 
my collection from both my Mac and PC. I have done it on my PC already, just need to do 
it on the Mac side. I will also remove any third party players from these platforms apart 
from iTunes which can't be removed on the Mac anyway. Going forward, I will now stream 
and, if I want to, save the music for offline listening. Apple was definitely right when 
they said "this will change the way we listen to music, forever". Long live the 
CD and offline music catalogues some of us have.


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