Re: Thanks for the ToDo app!

[Danny Noonan]

Great to here. It's certainly made my life easier and far more productive. I 
don't have a watch but for when I do it's great to know apps like due and trip 
view work well on it. 

Have a great day and a tip if you want to set future date events in due, 
customising the quick times in settings helps. I have 1 day instead of 3 hours 
and 1 month in place of the 1 day. 


Danny

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30 Jun 2015, at 8:13 am, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> The Due app is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks so much. 
> 
> the Watch version is awesome! I’d say well worth the $4.99. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
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Re: Clean install of Yosemite with VoiceOver

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

You probably encountered a loss-of-focus problem in the installer.  Simply do 
VO-F1-F1 (that’s F1 twice, quickly) to get the app chooser, and select the 
installer and window again.  Don’t forget FN while you’re on the laptop 
keyboards too.

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RE: Setting up Apple Watch.

[george b]

In the u s it is $699.00

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Greg Kerbage
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 21:34
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Setting up Apple Watch.

Hi Sadam,
How much is that watch with the stainless band and the 42mm screen? That's the 
same one I'd be going for. Yes I am in Australia. We've chatted on skype before
Greg

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On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Monday, 29 June 2015 2:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Setting up Apple Watch.

Hi all, 

Ordered my Apple Watch 42 mm stainless steel yesterday. 

Wondering how to turn on the accessibility features once I receive the device? 

Is it best to triple click the digital crown will take a picture of the watch 
with the camera? 

Thanks in anticipation. 

With regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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Re: Clean install of Yosemite with VoiceOver

[Jim Gatteys]

Why not just make a cd copy of yosemite if you ever need to re-install.  then 
you wouldn't have to go through the download process again.  
> On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:02 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> You probably encountered a loss-of-focus problem in the installer.  Simply do 
> VO-F1-F1 (that’s F1 twice, quickly) to get the app chooser, and select the 
> installer and window again.  Don’t forget FN while you’re on the laptop 
> keyboards too.
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updates are done

[george b]

I did my update to I o s 8.4 on my phone and ipad

Just a heads all went smoothly, but you will need to slid your finger down the 
screen to read all the info and find buttons in the process.  The flick seems 
not to flick from section to section on the screens in the process.

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Subject: update and correction to earlier messages re Workout on Apple Watch

Hi all,

As some of you may recall, I posted earlier that the watch gives you no alert 
when you've met your work-out goal.  This is incorrect.  However, there is a 
voiceover bug that incorrectly reports the time you have entered.

If you notice, when you've selected the type of work-out you want and go to set 
the time, Voiceover defaults to a time, and you'll hear something like "thirty 
seconds."  Well, it's actually not 30 seconds, it's 30 minutes.  So, when I was 
turning the crown until Voiceover spoke the time as 30 minutes, what I was 
actually setting my work-out time to was 30 hours. lol, no wonder I didn't get 
an alert, I would have had to work out for 15 hours just to get to the halfway 
point.  So treat seconds as minutes, and then set the time you want, and you 
will in fact get an alert at the halfway point, and then again when your 
work-out is completed.  I'm going to report this to Apple Accessibility, so 
hopefully they can get it straightened out.

I hope this is helpful.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Haptic feedback failing

[Deb Lewis]

I have everything set up with the keychain. So it only took about a
half hour and I didn't lose one scrap of data except some books which
I forgot to back up. But they took another ten minutes to get back and
all is really much better. I love my phone and I love my watch with it
but I was beginning to not love the watch so much until I did this. I
fussed about it for a week, so that's why I'm bringing it up. Was
truly worth it.

On 6/29/15, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> Oh that’s the thing I’m avoiding doing, a full reset of both devices.
> *grin*
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>> On Jun 29, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>>
>> I had millions of problems with my watch. Some reported and some not.
>> But they were all fixed by doing a restore on the phone from my Icloud
>> backup and completely resetting the watch to factory defaults. I was
>> sad to lose my data but the performance improvements have been
>> remarkable. It didn't take long to do either one but I hope I don't
>> have to do it again. Everything just hums or haptics along though now.
>>
>> On 6/29/15, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>>> Thanks for the thought on the haptic feedback. Mine has gone on and off
>>> periodically and today after reading your messages, I tried setting an
>>> alarm
>>> both with Siri and manually. Both of course featured a perfect haptic
>>> feedback along with the alarm sound. This is sort of how my Watch is
>>> behaving now, little things stop then start again. No giant deal really
>>>
>>> Yes, turning it off and on again does seem to help and pairing it again
>>> every now and then does too.
>>>
>>> Oh, first gen products. I do wonder how on earth I lived without it
>>> though.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
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os 10.10.4 is here

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.

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RE: os 10.10.4 is here

[Junior Lolley KG4ITD]

My question is does mail work better in the new update?


Junior Lolley kg4itd
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"The 3 C’s of life: choices, chances, and changes. You must make a choice to 
take a chance or your life will never change."


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Subject: os 10.10.4 is here

just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.

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Re: update and correction to earlier messages re Workout on Apple Watch

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Oh thanks so much Donna.  No wonder all my exercise goals are incorrect!
On 29 Jun 2015, at 16:51, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi all,

As some of you may recall, I posted earlier that the watch gives you no alert 
when you've met your work-out goal.  This is incorrect.  However, there is a 
voiceover bug that incorrectly reports the time you have entered.

If you notice, when you've selected the type of work-out you want and go to set 
the time, Voiceover defaults to a time, and you'll hear something like "thirty 
seconds."  Well, it's actually not 30 seconds, it's 30 minutes.  So, when I was 
turning the crown until Voiceover spoke the time as 30 minutes, what I was 
actually setting my work-out time to was 30 hours. lol, no wonder I didn't get 
an alert, I would have had to work out for 15 hours just to get to the halfway 
point.  So treat seconds as minutes, and then set the time you want, and you 
will in fact get an alert at the halfway point, and then again when your 
work-out is completed.  I'm going to report this to Apple Accessibility, so 
hopefully they can get it straightened out.

I hope this is helpful.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

i dont see any differences.
> On 30 Jun 2015, at 10:21 pm, Junior Lolley KG4ITD  
> wrote:
> 
> My question is does mail work better in the new update?
> 
> 
> Junior Lolley kg4itd
> Liberty County Emergency Coordinator
> "The 3 C’s of life: choices, chances, and changes. You must make a choice to 
> take a chance or your life will never change."
> 
> 
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> 
> just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.
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app store keeps locking up on me

[Ray Foret Jr]

Can't seem to install 10.0.4.  I get as far as the install all updates button, 
press it, and then nothing seems to happen.  So, I quit the app store and go 
back in but it won't let me past the tool bar.  Anybody else having this 
trouble?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
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Re: update and correction to earlier messages re Workout on Apple Watch

[Donna Goodin]

Lol.  glad it was helpful Kawal.  Isn't that just the dumbest thing?  I would 
never have figured it out, except that I finally decided that if I wasn't 
getting any alerts, I might as well not bother setting a goal.  And then lo and 
behold, I started getting alerts.  Oh, well, better late than never, I guess.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jun 30, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Oh thanks so much Donna.  No wonder all my exercise goals are incorrect!
> On 29 Jun 2015, at 16:51, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> As some of you may recall, I posted earlier that the watch gives you no alert 
> when you've met your work-out goal.  This is incorrect.  However, there is a 
> voiceover bug that incorrectly reports the time you have entered.
> 
> If you notice, when you've selected the type of work-out you want and go to 
> set the time, Voiceover defaults to a time, and you'll hear something like 
> "thirty seconds."  Well, it's actually not 30 seconds, it's 30 minutes.  So, 
> when I was turning the crown until Voiceover spoke the time as 30 minutes, 
> what I was actually setting my work-out time to was 30 hours. lol, no wonder 
> I didn't get an alert, I would have had to work out for 15 hours just to get 
> to the halfway point.  So treat seconds as minutes, and then set the time you 
> want, and you will in fact get an alert at the halfway point, and then again 
> when your work-out is completed.  I'm going to report this to Apple 
> Accessibility, so hopefully they can get it straightened out.
> 
> I hope this is helpful.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: app store keeps locking up on me

[Shaf]

Download the DMG from the Apple website if you're having issues with the 
App Store.

Alternatively, Google around for an installer.

On 6/30/2015 10:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
Can't seem to install 10.0.4.  I get as far as the install all updates 
button, press it, and then nothing seems to happen.  So, I quit the 
app store and go back in but it won't let me past the tool bar. 
 Anybody else having this trouble?



Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

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OK, it's official! I'm in blyss heaven! with Apple Music!

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Wanted to see what you guys thought of Apple music so far!  I've been 
practically all day listenning to things over here during the workday, and let 
me tell you, I am blown away!  This puts Pandora, Spottify, Beats Music, 
Slacker, all that stuff to bloody freaking shame!

And, further, the Siri integration with Apple Music is breathtaking!

I'm getting quite confident with using it on I O S, so if anyone needs some 
help getting it up and running, shoot me back a reply, and it would be an 
honor! to help you out with it.

Chris.

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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Don't get too excited though.  It doesn't yet have Apple Music.  That's only 
available as of today on I O S, although, I suspect it will be really really 
really really soon when ITunes 12.2 comes out, which will have the 
integration.  Oh my God I can't wait!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
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To: 
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just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.

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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Not yet sure.  I'll check though and e-mail ya once I know my findings. 
Yes.  I do have your address.


Chris.

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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I didn't honestly find Mail all that bad though in 10.10.3.  that's just me 
though.


Chris.

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Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here


i dont see any differences.
On 30 Jun 2015, at 10:21 pm, Junior Lolley KG4ITD  
wrote:


My question is does mail work better in the new update?


Junior Lolley kg4itd
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just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.

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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[Shaf]

Why don't you keep all your comments in 1 message to reduce spam?


On 6/30/2015 10:36 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I didn't honestly find Mail all that bad though in 10.10.3.  that's 
just me though.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera" 


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Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here


i dont see any differences.
On 30 Jun 2015, at 10:21 pm, Junior Lolley KG4ITD 
 wrote:


My question is does mail work better in the new update?


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Re: app store keeps locking up on me

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Ray,

Realize it's Apple Music Day, and people're probably getting ready for the new 
ITunes, which means you gotta have 10.10.4 for that to work.  So, there servers 
are probably about to explode! with people downloading.  I'd just be patient.

Chris.

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  Subject: app store keeps locking up on me


  Can't seem to install 10.0.4.  I get as far as the install all updates 
button, press it, and then nothing seems to happen.  So, I quit the app store 
and go back in but it won't let me past the tool bar.  Anybody else having this 
trouble?




  Sincerely,
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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[Devin Prater]

Any voiceover changes?
> On Jun 30, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[Shaf]

Nope. And there probably won't be any until the non-beta release of El 
Capitan.


On 6/30/2015 10:40 PM, Devin Prater wrote:

Any voiceover changes?

On Jun 30, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
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just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.

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Re: app store keeps locking up on me

[Buddy Brannan]

On the other hand, if something really is corrupt (it was in my case), try 
deleting ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.appstore.plist and 
~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.storeagent.plist if you have it, then restart. 
> On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Ray,
>  
> Realize it's Apple Music Day, and people're probably getting ready for the 
> new ITunes, which means you gotta have 10.10.4 for that to work.  So, there 
> servers are probably about to explode! with people downloading.  I'd just be 
> patient.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Ray Foret Jr
>> To: Mac Visionaries List
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:20 PM
>> Subject: app store keeps locking up on me
>> 
>> Can't seem to install 10.0.4.  I get as far as the install all updates 
>> button, press it, and then nothing seems to happen.  So, I quit the app 
>> store and go back in but it won't let me past the tool bar.  Anybody else 
>> having this trouble?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> 
>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac,
>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>> 
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Re: OK, it's official! I'm in blyss heaven! with Apple Music!

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hey Chris. Didn't Apple buy out Beats Music and therefore change the name to 
Apple Music? In any event, I'm pretty happy with Apple Music. I actually 
listened to Beats 1 practically when it launched. I'm surprised and 
disappointed, however, that it doesn't have a decades area in the radio section 
so I could listen to music from a particular decade like the 80s. If there is 
one though, feel free to point me in the right direction. Thanks.

Shawn
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> Wanted to see what you guys thought of Apple music so far!  I've been 
> practically all day listenning to things over here during the workday, and 
> let me tell you, I am blown away!  This puts Pandora, Spottify, Beats Music, 
> Slacker, all that stuff to bloody freaking shame!
>  
> And, further, the Siri integration with Apple Music is breathtaking!
>  
> I'm getting quite confident with using it on I O S, so if anyone needs some 
> help getting it up and running, shoot me back a reply, and it would be an 
> honor! to help you out with it.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: OK, it's official! I'm in blyss heaven! with Apple Music!

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Yeah Apple acquired Beats Music last year hence this service.


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> On 30 Jun 2015, at 22:52, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hey Chris. Didn't Apple buy out Beats Music and therefore change the name to 
> Apple Music? In any event, I'm pretty happy with Apple Music. I actually 
> listened to Beats 1 practically when it launched. I'm surprised and 
> disappointed, however, that it doesn't have a decades area in the radio 
> section so I could listen to music from a particular decade like the 80s. If 
> there is one though, feel free to point me in the right direction. Thanks.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my White MacBook
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Wanted to see what you guys thought of Apple music so far!  I've been 
>> practically all day listenning to things over here during the workday, and 
>> let me tell you, I am blown away!  This puts Pandora, Spottify, Beats Music, 
>> Slacker, all that stuff to bloody freaking shame!
>>  
>> And, further, the Siri integration with Apple Music is breathtaking!
>>  
>> I'm getting quite confident with using it on I O S, so if anyone needs some 
>> help getting it up and running, shoot me back a reply, and it would be an 
>> honor! to help you out with it.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
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Re: OK, it's official! I'm in blyss heaven! with Apple Music!

[christopher hallsworth]

Chris, I'm like you. I will share my thoughts in another reply soon.


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> On 30 Jun 2015, at 22:33, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Wanted to see what you guys thought of Apple music so far!  I've been 
> practically all day listenning to things over here during the workday, and 
> let me tell you, I am blown away!  This puts Pandora, Spottify, Beats Music, 
> Slacker, all that stuff to bloody freaking shame!
>  
> And, further, the Siri integration with Apple Music is breathtaking!
>  
> I'm getting quite confident with using it on I O S, so if anyone needs some 
> help getting it up and running, shoot me back a reply, and it would be an 
> honor! to help you out with it.
>  
> Chris.
>  
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My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi all
Let me share with you my thoughts so far with the Apple Music service from a 
VoiceOver user's standpoint.
Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver. Everything 
I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect feature appears to be 
working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye from me to Spotify.
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RE: app store keeps locking up on me

[george b]

Why don’t youwai a while you are mostlikely 1 of millions who are trying to do 
this

 

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Subject: Re: app store keeps locking up on me

 

Download the DMG from the Apple website if you're having issues with the App 
Store.
Alternatively, Google around for an installer.

On 6/30/2015 10:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Can't seem to install 10.0.4.  I get as far as the install all updates button, 
press it, and then nothing seems to happen.  So, I quit the app store and go 
back in but it won't let me past the tool bar.  Anybody else having this 
trouble? 

 

 

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More coolness with the Apple Music service

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, and it 
simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it I'm already a 
member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should also be the case for 
the other family members. This is the latest that is blowing me away.


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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Chris. Same here. I pretty much got rid of both Spotify and Jango when Apple 
Music came out today. I hope though, and this really pissed me off with 
Spotify, when you ban a song, it STAYS banned. Meaning with Spotify, I'd ban a 
song, and then after a while, I find that it's playing again.

Shawn
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> On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:00 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> Let me share with you my thoughts so far with the Apple Music service from a 
> VoiceOver user's standpoint.
> Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver. 
> Everything I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect feature 
> appears to be working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye from me to 
> Spotify.
> Short, but to the point and I hope you feel the same.
> 
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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I installed it after returning home from work this afternoon.  I also installed 
the iOS 8.4 as well.

Matthew


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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[E.T.]

   Like today? Its downloading at this moment.

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in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/30/2015 2:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Don't get too excited though.  It doesn't yet have Apple Music.  That's
only available as of today on I O S, although, I suspect it will be
really really really really soon when ITunes 12.2 comes out, which will
have the integration.  Oh my God I can't wait!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera"

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Subject: os 10.10.4 is here



just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.

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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Because, I'm ultimately not a spammer, and therefore have no reason to cut 
down on it, thank ya?


Good day,  Glory Sunshine.


- Original Message - 
From: "Shaf" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here


Why don't you keep all your comments in 1 message to reduce spam?


On 6/30/2015 10:36 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I didn't honestly find Mail all that bad though in 10.10.3.  that's just 
me though.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here


i dont see any differences.
On 30 Jun 2015, at 10:21 pm, Junior Lolley KG4ITD 
 wrote:


My question is does mail work better in the new update?


Junior Lolley kg4itd
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Re: OK, it's official! I'm in blyss heaven! with Apple Music!

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK Shawn, not really, however, here's what you can do which will get you pretty 
much what you're wanting.

Invoke Siri, and say something to the effect of:  "Play the top songs from 
1975."  Play songs from 1982."  That seems to work for me.

Another thing you can do is in the Music app, double tap the New tab.  It's the 
second one from the far left, one flick right of the For you tab.  At the top 
of the screen, you'll now see a button that says all genres.  If you double tap 
this, you now can pick a specific genre to hear, or, you can also look after 
double tapping the genre, and there will be a heading that says top songs.  If 
you double tap the button in that heading, you'll be taken to a screen with the 
current top songs of that genre in Apple Music Radio, not to be confused with 
Beats 1.  In here, you can play all the songs back to back, or you can pick the 
one you want to hear, and go from there.

Finally, yes, to answer your question, Apple did indeed buy out Beats Music, 
yes.  If you have a Beats Music subscription though, I'd not advise cancelling 
it yet.  Mainly because the Apple TV doesn't quite yet have the Apple Music 
built in to the OS, and probably won't until the Fall from what very very 
little I hear.  Also sames goes with the Android side of things, so if in 
addition to your Apple devices, you, like me, have an Android device as well, 
all you now will have at this point is Beats Music.  I think eventually around 
the Fall, that will probably get phaised out entirely, but it hasn't been so 
yet.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Shawn Krasniuk 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:52 PM
  Subject: Re: OK, it's official! I'm in blyss heaven! with Apple Music!


  Hey Chris. Didn't Apple buy out Beats Music and therefore change the name to 
Apple Music? In any event, I'm pretty happy with Apple Music. I actually 
listened to Beats 1 practically when it launched. I'm surprised and 
disappointed, however, that it doesn't have a decades area in the radio section 
so I could listen to music from a particular decade like the 80s. If there is 
one though, feel free to point me in the right direction. Thanks.


  Shawn
  Sent from my White MacBook






On Jun 30, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Wanted to see what you guys thought of Apple music so far!  I've been 
practically all day listenning to things over here during the workday, and let 
me tell you, I am blown away!  This puts Pandora, Spottify, Beats Music, 
Slacker, all that stuff to bloody freaking shame!

And, further, the Siri integration with Apple Music is breathtaking!

I'm getting quite confident with using it on I O S, so if anyone needs some 
help getting it up and running, shoot me back a reply, and it would be an 
honor! to help you out with it.

Chris.



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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Chris, can you or someone else kind of explain what the connect feature 
does?


Chris.

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To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:00 PM
Subject: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
standpoint




Hi all
Let me share with you my thoughts so far with the Apple Music service from 
a VoiceOver user's standpoint.
Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver. 
Everything I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect feature 
appears to be working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye from me to 
Spotify.

Short, but to the point and I hope you feel the same.


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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

See, I actually wanted to know the oppisit.  What if you accidentally ban a 
song, then how do you get it back, or, can you!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
standpoint



Hi Chris. Same here. I pretty much got rid of both Spotify and Jango when 
Apple Music came out today. I hope though, and this really pissed me off 
with Spotify, when you ban a song, it STAYS banned. Meaning with Spotify, 
I'd ban a song, and then after a while, I find that it's playing again.


Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:00 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 wrote:


Hi all
Let me share with you my thoughts so far with the Apple Music service from 
a VoiceOver user's standpoint.
Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver. 
Everything I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect feature 
appears to be working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye from me to 
Spotify.

Short, but to the point and I hope you feel the same.


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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Look'at! Dude?

When I wrote that message, it may not have been available quite yet!  Give 
me a break for flipping sake!  It's possible that since I wrote that 
message, Apple pushed the update.


I only am telling you what Apple Accessibility told me initially when I 
called.  Don't be so chastizing!


Chris.

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



   Like today? Its downloading at this moment.

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On 6/30/2015 2:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Don't get too excited though.  It doesn't yet have Apple Music.  That's
only available as of today on I O S, although, I suspect it will be
really really really really soon when ITunes 12.2 comes out, which will
have the integration.  Oh my God I can't wait!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera"

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:21 PM
Subject: os 10.10.4 is here



just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.

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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

[Devin Prater]

Well when my iPhone update works, and doesn't fail after 10 minutes, I'll be 
glad to try the service lol. But I guess right about now is people's "off work 
update check" time lol.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Chris, can you or someone else kind of explain what the connect feature does?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
> 
> To: "macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:00 PM
> Subject: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
> standpoint
> 
> 
>> Hi all
>> Let me share with you my thoughts so far with the Apple Music service from a 
>> VoiceOver user's standpoint.
>> Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver. 
>> Everything I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect feature 
>> appears to be working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye from me to 
>> Spotify.
>> Short, but to the point and I hope you feel the same.
>> 
>> 
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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[E.T.]

   Having a bad day Chris? It jsut happened that while I was 
downloading the updates that I read your message. Take a chill pill and 
enjoy Apple Music. (smiles)


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On 6/30/2015 4:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Look'at! Dude?

When I wrote that message, it may not have been available quite yet!
Give me a break for flipping sake!  It's possible that since I wrote
that message, Apple pushed the update.

I only am telling you what Apple Accessibility told me initially when I
called.  Don't be so chastizing!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "E.T." 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



   Like today? Its downloading at this moment.

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On 6/30/2015 2:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Don't get too excited though.  It doesn't yet have Apple Music.  That's
only available as of today on I O S, although, I suspect it will be
really really really really soon when ITunes 12.2 comes out, which will
have the integration.  Oh my God I can't wait!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera"

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:21 PM
Subject: os 10.10.4 is here



just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.

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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Brent Harding]

How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
someone else on your plan did it.


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From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, and 
it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it I'm 
already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should also be 
the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is blowing me 
away.



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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

[Brent Harding]

Yeah, with Spotify, you have to keep on skipping because it repeats as 
often, if not more, than FM radio at times.


- Original Message - 
From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
standpoint



Hi Chris. Same here. I pretty much got rid of both Spotify and Jango when 
Apple Music came out today. I hope though, and this really pissed me off 
with Spotify, when you ban a song, it STAYS banned. Meaning with Spotify, 
I'd ban a song, and then after a while, I find that it's playing again.


Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:00 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 wrote:


Hi all
Let me share with you my thoughts so far with the Apple Music service from 
a VoiceOver user's standpoint.
Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver. 
Everything I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect feature 
appears to be working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye from me to 
Spotify.

Short, but to the point and I hope you feel the same.


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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Jessica Moss]

Ok, are we talking about Beats music?  If you are, you should automaticly get a 
tryal period, can't remember how long, then you have to renew after that, which 
I'd love to do, but can't afford the $10 a month they want for it.
  Mom does it and loves it, but I don't have that kind of money right now.
On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:

> How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
> someone else on your plan did it.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
> 
> To: "macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
> Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service
> 
> 
> Hi all
> I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, and 
> it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it I'm 
> already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should also be 
> the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is blowing me 
> away.
> 
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Re: OK, it's official! I'm in blyss heaven! with Apple Music!

[Jessica Moss]

What's the difference now between Apple music and Beats music?  I didn't know a 
change was made.
On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

> Hey Chris. Didn't Apple buy out Beats Music and therefore change the name to 
> Apple Music? In any event, I'm pretty happy with Apple Music. I actually 
> listened to Beats 1 practically when it launched. I'm surprised and 
> disappointed, however, that it doesn't have a decades area in the radio 
> section so I could listen to music from a particular decade like the 80s. If 
> there is one though, feel free to point me in the right direction. Thanks.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my White MacBook
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Wanted to see what you guys thought of Apple music so far!  I've been 
>> practically all day listenning to things over here during the workday, and 
>> let me tell you, I am blown away!  This puts Pandora, Spottify, Beats Music, 
>> Slacker, all that stuff to bloody freaking shame!
>>  
>> And, further, the Siri integration with Apple Music is breathtaking!
>>  
>> I'm getting quite confident with using it on I O S, so if anyone needs some 
>> help getting it up and running, shoot me back a reply, and it would be an 
>> honor! to help you out with it.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
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RE: OK, it's official! I'm in blyss heaven! with Apple Music!

[george b]

Apple i.e. the music app on your device is now beats music so if you have the 
beats app on your device you can remove it

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 18:13
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OK, it's official! I'm in blyss heaven! with Apple Music!

 

What's the difference now between Apple music and Beats music?  I didn't know a 
change was made.

On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Shawn Krasniuk mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> > wrote:





Hey Chris. Didn't Apple buy out Beats Music and therefore change the name to 
Apple Music? In any event, I'm pretty happy with Apple Music. I actually 
listened to Beats 1 practically when it launched. I'm surprised and 
disappointed, however, that it doesn't have a decades area in the radio section 
so I could listen to music from a particular decade like the 80s. If there is 
one though, feel free to point me in the right direction. Thanks.

 

Shawn

Sent from my White MacBook

 

 

 

On Jun 30, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Wanted to see what you guys thought of Apple music so far!  I've been 
practically all day listenning to things over here during the workday, and let 
me tell you, I am blown away!  This puts Pandora, Spottify, Beats Music, 
Slacker, all that stuff to bloody freaking shame!

 

And, further, the Siri integration with Apple Music is breathtaking!

 

I'm getting quite confident with using it on I O S, so if anyone needs some 
help getting it up and running, shoot me back a reply, and it would be an 
honor! to help you out with it.

 

Chris.

 

 

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Apple music and your iCloud music library

[Joe Quinn]

One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition to 
having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, apparently being 
able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've found a loophole in 
this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing something wrong. I used to 
subscribe to itunes match, but let the subspription lapse last fibruary. 
Thouugh, when I logged into itunes today, I saw my old itunes match library. I 
thought, "cool!" However, when I go to download one of those old tracks, I get 
an error 8003 code on the mac, and nothing on the iOS devices. so, if you let 
your itunes match lapse, are those old tracks not available any more, in spite 
of, what, I think, apple states and the fact that I can still see them, which 
is a bit misleading I think. Apple said that itunes match wasn't required, that 
you'd essentally get it anyway when you subscribed to apple music. any ideas?  
thanks! 

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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yeah, like I'm even having some ICloud issues with Apple Music playlist 
tracks I've added to a playlist syncing from I O S to my ITunes.


It'll all be good, as I've gotten it to work, it's just really unreliable 
right now.


You gotta understand, this is a huge! and I mean huge! milestone for Apple. 
I wouldn't be shocked at all if their servers are more loaded to max 
capassity now than what they normally are with updates.  Frankly, if they 
weren't so, I'd be very worried.


I'm 100% confident that things will sort themselves out in a few days, if 
not sooner.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Devin Prater" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
standpoint



Well when my iPhone update works, and doesn't fail after 10 minutes, I'll 
be glad to try the service lol. But I guess right about now is people's 
"off work update check" time lol.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Chris, can you or someone else kind of explain what the connect feature 
does?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 


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Subject: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
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Hi all
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from a VoiceOver user's standpoint.
Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver. 
Everything I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect feature 
appears to be working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye from me to 
Spotify.

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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both talked 
today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He has 
multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after 
doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd already 
signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They just 
automatically logged him in.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
someone else on your plan did it.


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Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should 
also be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is 
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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Speaking of Skipping, no more of the stupid skip hourly limit like Pandora 
gives you!  I skipped over 12 songs in one hour, just for the bloody hell of 
it, to see if it would do it, and it never choked on me with a stupid 
message about due to copyright, we can't skip anymore, now go away and enjoy 
tin pan clashing by the sounds of shit.  LOL!  Just kidding.  Seriously 
though.


Just thought you'd like to know that if you didn't already discover it.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
standpoint



Yeah, with Spotify, you have to keep on skipping because it repeats as 
often, if not more, than FM radio at times.


- Original Message - 
From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver 
user's standpoint



Hi Chris. Same here. I pretty much got rid of both Spotify and Jango when 
Apple Music came out today. I hope though, and this really pissed me off 
with Spotify, when you ban a song, it STAYS banned. Meaning with Spotify, 
I'd ban a song, and then after a while, I find that it's playing again.


Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



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Hi all
Let me share with you my thoughts so far with the Apple Music service 
from a VoiceOver user's standpoint.
Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver. 
Everything I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect feature 
appears to be working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye from me to 
Spotify.

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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Jessica, it's what Beats Music is going to be.  Remember, Apple bought out 
Beats.  So, eventually, if I had to guess, I could be wrong on this, 
although I don't see why they would, Beats probably is going to be totally 
replaced with Apple Music.  Frankly, this in my opinion isn't a bad thing at 
all though!


Chris.
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Ok, are we talking about Beats music?  If you are, you should automaticly 
get a tryal period, can't remember how long, then you have to renew after 
that, which I'd love to do, but can't afford the $10 a month they want for 
it.

 Mom does it and loves it, but I don't have that kind of money right now.
On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:

How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
someone else on your plan did it.


- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 


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Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Sorry, Shaf's message really had pissed me off, and I read his message about 
me being a spammer right before seeing and responding to your's, so needless 
to say, I was still pretty irked.  I apologize.  I didn't mean to take it 
out on you.  It just came across like you thought maybe I gave 
misinformation about it not being available initially.


Anyway, sorry for snapping.  Yeah, it has actually been a somewhat stressful 
day.  I have a lot on my mind right now with major work changes etc.  I 
again didn't mean to come down on ya.  Forgive me.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
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To: 
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Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here


   Having a bad day Chris? It jsut happened that while I was downloading 
the updates that I read your message. Take a chill pill and enjoy Apple 
Music. (smiles)


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On 6/30/2015 4:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Look'at! Dude?

When I wrote that message, it may not have been available quite yet!
Give me a break for flipping sake!  It's possible that since I wrote
that message, Apple pushed the update.

I only am telling you what Apple Accessibility told me initially when I
called.  Don't be so chastizing!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "E.T." 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



   Like today? Its downloading at this moment.

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On 6/30/2015 2:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Don't get too excited though.  It doesn't yet have Apple Music.  That's
only available as of today on I O S, although, I suspect it will be
really really really really soon when ITunes 12.2 comes out, which will
have the integration.  Oh my God I can't wait!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera"

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Subject: os 10.10.4 is here



just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.

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RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library

[george b]

Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today

If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into the music 
cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the music you bought 
became non burnable and non copy able for others.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
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Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library

One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition to 
having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, apparently being 
able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've found a loophole in 
this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing something wrong. I used to 
subscribe to itunes match, but let the subspription lapse last fibruary. 
Thouugh, when I logged into itunes today, I saw my old itunes match library. I 
thought, "cool!" However, when I go to download one of those old tracks, I get 
an error 8003 code on the mac, and nothing on the iOS devices. so, if you let 
your itunes match lapse, are those old tracks not available any more, in spite 
of, what, I think, apple states and the fact that I can still see them, which 
is a bit misleading I think. Apple said that itunes match wasn't required, that 
you'd essentally get it anyway when you subscribed to apple music. any ideas?  
thanks! 

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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

[Brent Harding]

Even if you pay, Pandora has a skip limit. Unlike some services, there is a 
daily limit also, so if you play one station and start getting repeats to 
skip, and skip some more on another station, I think once you use 6 skips 
twice, you're done until that time tomorrow. I think that's part of why 
Spotify and Apple Music cost more. Also, I like that I can play whatever I 
want with Siri, not just something it thinks is similar that I didn't want 
at all.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
standpoint



Speaking of Skipping, no more of the stupid skip hourly limit like Pandora 
gives you!  I skipped over 12 songs in one hour, just for the bloody hell 
of it, to see if it would do it, and it never choked on me with a stupid 
message about due to copyright, we can't skip anymore, now go away and 
enjoy tin pan clashing by the sounds of shit.  LOL!  Just kidding. 
Seriously though.


Just thought you'd like to know that if you didn't already discover it.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver 
user's standpoint



Yeah, with Spotify, you have to keep on skipping because it repeats as 
often, if not more, than FM radio at times.


- Original Message - 
From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver 
user's standpoint



Hi Chris. Same here. I pretty much got rid of both Spotify and Jango when 
Apple Music came out today. I hope though, and this really pissed me off 
with Spotify, when you ban a song, it STAYS banned. Meaning with Spotify, 
I'd ban a song, and then after a while, I find that it's playing again.


Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:00 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 wrote:


Hi all
Let me share with you my thoughts so far with the Apple Music service 
from a VoiceOver user's standpoint.
Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver. 
Everything I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect feature 
appears to be working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye from me to 
Spotify.

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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Brent Harding]

That's nice. You don't need any kind of restore purchases thing. I'm liking 
Beats 1 too, if it will consistently locate me properly in the United 
States. The "Beats1 isn't available in your country" message I get sometimes 
when using it with Siri is annoying. I hope that gets fixed soon. The state 
of Wisconsin isn't near any border, so it must be some kind of intermittent 
bug, or has to do with wifi calling.



- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both talked 
today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He has 
multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after 
doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd 
already signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They 
just automatically logged him in.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
someone else on your plan did it.


- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should 
also be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is 
blowing me away.



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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Oh, ok, I see the confusion, I think.

Basically, what they mean by your ICloud music isn't necessarily what's in 
ITunes Match.  It may partly be that, but they just mean more, all the music 
you ever purchased with your ID.  You can see it, and get to it.  You 
probably couldn't download it, if you don't have ITunes match, but with 
Apple Music, if you are subscribed, then you should be able to still play 
it.


If you can't, then I'd blame it on server overload.  They are absolutely 
jammed! with people getting the new I O S, and the new O S X/ITunes.


I'd try in a few days.  If it still won't let you download, I'd give them a 
call to see what the deal is.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Quinn" 

To: "Viphone" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:14 PM
Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library


One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition to 
having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, apparently 
being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've found a 
loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing something 
wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the subspription lapse 
last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes today, I saw my old itunes 
match library. I thought, "cool!" However, when I go to download one of 
those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code on the mac, and nothing on the 
iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes match lapse, are those old tracks 
not available any more, in spite of, what, I think, apple states and the 
fact that I can still see them, which is a bit misleading I think. Apple 
said that itunes match wasn't required, that you'd essentally get it anyway 
when you subscribed to apple music. any ideas?  thanks!


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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Oh, the Siri integration with Apple Music is incredible!  I'll definitely 
give you that!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
standpoint



Even if you pay, Pandora has a skip limit. Unlike some services, there is 
a daily limit also, so if you play one station and start getting repeats 
to skip, and skip some more on another station, I think once you use 6 
skips twice, you're done until that time tomorrow. I think that's part of 
why Spotify and Apple Music cost more. Also, I like that I can play 
whatever I want with Siri, not just something it thinks is similar that I 
didn't want at all.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver 
user's standpoint



Speaking of Skipping, no more of the stupid skip hourly limit like 
Pandora gives you!  I skipped over 12 songs in one hour, just for the 
bloody hell of it, to see if it would do it, and it never choked on me 
with a stupid message about due to copyright, we can't skip anymore, now 
go away and enjoy tin pan clashing by the sounds of shit.  LOL!  Just 
kidding. Seriously though.


Just thought you'd like to know that if you didn't already discover it.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver 
user's standpoint



Yeah, with Spotify, you have to keep on skipping because it repeats as 
often, if not more, than FM radio at times.


- Original Message - 
From: "Shawn Krasniuk" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver 
user's standpoint



Hi Chris. Same here. I pretty much got rid of both Spotify and Jango 
when Apple Music came out today. I hope though, and this really pissed 
me off with Spotify, when you ban a song, it STAYS banned. Meaning with 
Spotify, I'd ban a song, and then after a while, I find that it's 
playing again.


Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:00 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 wrote:


Hi all
Let me share with you my thoughts so far with the Apple Music service 
from a VoiceOver user's standpoint.
Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver. 
Everything I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect feature 
appears to be working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye from me to 
Spotify.

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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yeah, I'm not real sure.  I actually haven't listened to the station yet, 
although I plan to soon.  How's the content variety?  Is it pretty good in 
your ipinion?


Granted, I dono what you like or if your taste is similar to mine, probably 
not, but I mean, just in general, do you find it to be pretty good?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


That's nice. You don't need any kind of restore purchases thing. I'm 
liking Beats 1 too, if it will consistently locate me properly in the 
United States. The "Beats1 isn't available in your country" message I get 
sometimes when using it with Siri is annoying. I hope that gets fixed 
soon. The state of Wisconsin isn't near any border, so it must be some 
kind of intermittent bug, or has to do with wifi calling.



- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both 
talked today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He 
has multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, 
after doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd 
already signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They 
just automatically logged him in.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, 
unless someone else on your plan did it.


- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should 
also be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that 
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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

[Brent Harding]

So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it 
before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people 
advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the 
computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality 
versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old style 
iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.


- Original Message - 
From: "george b" 
To: ; "'Viphone'" 


Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library


Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today

If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into the 
music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the music you 
bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.


-Original Message-
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
To: Viphone
Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library

One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition to 
having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, apparently 
being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've found a 
loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing something 
wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the subspription lapse 
last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes today, I saw my old itunes 
match library. I thought, "cool!" However, when I go to download one of 
those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code on the mac, and nothing on the 
iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes match lapse, are those old tracks 
not available any more, in spite of, what, I think, apple states and the 
fact that I can still see them, which is a bit misleading I think. Apple 
said that itunes match wasn't required, that you'd essentally get it anyway 
when you subscribed to apple music. any ideas?  thanks!


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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Devin Prater]

Holy crap, this really does eat up the battery! I was at 90% just 15 minutes 
ago, and now it just said 60 percent.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both talked 
> today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He has 
> multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after 
> doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd already 
> signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They just 
> automatically logged him in.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
> Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
> 
> 
>> How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
>> someone else on your plan did it.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
>> 
>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
>> Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all
>> I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, and 
>> it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it I'm 
>> already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should also be 
>> the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is blowing me 
>> away.
>> 
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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

[Blee Blat]

The only thing I've not been able to get to work is that it doesn't seem to 
sync created stations and music listening preferences  across devices. I have a 
mac and iphone that I've signed into here and since I'm usually having wifi 
handy I wouldn't mind paying for this especially if I can figure out how to add 
whole albums for streaming to my library. It looks like this could replace 
several music apps once I can figure out how to manage playlists and stations 
and things across devices. Certainly impressed with sound quality and the fact 
that it has found everything I could possibly want to listen to. Now I just 
need to figure out how to make custom playlists and stations so I can do weird 
things like mix Accept albums with Bach and  bagpipe music and have it remember 
what I was playing  when I switch from one device to another because I bounce 
around a lot. But certainly this might save me from having to keep track of 
large collection of stuff once I can figure out the complexity! I certainly 
don't have enough disk space or time to go and download all the stuff I would 
listen to if it was handy to stream so I think this looks very good. Big fat 
warning to anyone with a data cap though this will eat it for lunch since 
256kbps  is what it streams at. I don't know if it has a lower bandwidth option 
so keep the wifi handy!

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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Blee Blat]

Yup I dipped into the extra battery too. I was pretty sure the service would be 
pretty crummy but it's actually really good I just don't yet know how to make 
it fit my music listening habits since I'm used to having local copies of 
everything because streaming anything I might want hasn't been handy in decent 
quality before now.

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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Brent Harding]

I thought it was pretty good. I'm not much into the techno stuff, or that 
one exclusive song they played twice in a row, but for the hour or so I 
listened, it was good. It's definitely a different style with the little 
sounders mixed into the songs, but a live station wasn't meant to be 
straight music and jingles either. It's definitely something to take a 
listen to.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Yeah, I'm not real sure.  I actually haven't listened to the station yet, 
although I plan to soon.  How's the content variety?  Is it pretty good in 
your ipinion?


Granted, I dono what you like or if your taste is similar to mine, 
probably not, but I mean, just in general, do you find it to be pretty 
good?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


That's nice. You don't need any kind of restore purchases thing. I'm 
liking Beats 1 too, if it will consistently locate me properly in the 
United States. The "Beats1 isn't available in your country" message I get 
sometimes when using it with Siri is annoying. I hope that gets fixed 
soon. The state of Wisconsin isn't near any border, so it must be some 
kind of intermittent bug, or has to do with wifi calling.



- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both 
talked today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He 
has multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, 
after doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that 
he'd already signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up. 
They just automatically logged him in.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, 
unless someone else on your plan did it.


- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this 
should also be the case for the other family members. This is the 
latest that is blowing me away.



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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Brent Harding]

I was playing with it awhile today, and got down to 55 percent. I think they 
want you to have a watch or something to use as a Siri remote to be able to 
keep the phone on the charger. Even with Spotify, and I usually airplay it 
through my old inactive 4S, the battery is done with from full in 2 hours or 
less, but that thing isn't anywhere near new any more.


- Original Message - 
From: "Devin Prater" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Holy crap, this really does eat up the battery! I was at 90% just 15 minutes 
ago, and now it just said 60 percent.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both talked 
today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He has 
multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after 
doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd 
already signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They 
just automatically logged him in.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
someone else on your plan did it.


- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 


To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should 
also be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is 
blowing me away.



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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

[Mary Otten]

I created a custom station on my old iPhone for S, and the same one showed up 
when I signed into my iPhone 5s. So it seems that custom stations are moving 
across just fine. I don't yet have the new iTunes on my Mac. And I haven't 
tried all the fancy stuff you're talking about otherwise, but custom stations 
are sinking or whatever you call it

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Blee Blat  wrote:
> 
> The only thing I've not been able to get to work is that it doesn't seem to 
> sync created stations and music listening preferences  across devices. I have 
> a mac and iphone that I've signed into here and since I'm usually having wifi 
> handy I wouldn't mind paying for this especially if I can figure out how to 
> add whole albums for streaming to my library. It looks like this could 
> replace several music apps once I can figure out how to manage playlists and 
> stations and things across devices. Certainly impressed with sound quality 
> and the fact that it has found everything I could possibly want to listen to. 
> Now I just need to figure out how to make custom playlists and stations so I 
> can do weird things like mix Accept albums with Bach and  bagpipe music and 
> have it remember what I was playing  when I switch from one device to another 
> because I bounce around a lot. But certainly this might save me from having 
> to keep track of large collection of stuff once I can figure out the 
> complexity! I certainly don't have enough disk space or time to go and 
> download all the stuff I would listen to if it was handy to stream so I think 
> this looks very good. Big fat warning to anyone with a data cap though this 
> will eat it for lunch since 256kbps  is what it streams at. I don't know if 
> it has a lower bandwidth option so keep the wifi handy!
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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[E.T.]

Chris,
   Thanks and no worries. Those kinds of days get us all.

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On 6/30/2015 7:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Sorry, Shaf's message really had pissed me off, and I read his message
about me being a spammer right before seeing and responding to your's,
so needless to say, I was still pretty irked.  I apologize.  I didn't
mean to take it out on you.  It just came across like you thought maybe
I gave misinformation about it not being available initially.

Anyway, sorry for snapping.  Yeah, it has actually been a somewhat
stressful day.  I have a lot on my mind right now with major work
changes etc.  I again didn't mean to come down on ya.  Forgive me.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "E.T." 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



   Having a bad day Chris? It jsut happened that while I was
downloading the updates that I read your message. Take a chill pill
and enjoy Apple Music. (smiles)

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On 6/30/2015 4:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Look'at! Dude?

When I wrote that message, it may not have been available quite yet!
Give me a break for flipping sake!  It's possible that since I wrote
that message, Apple pushed the update.

I only am telling you what Apple Accessibility told me initially when I
called.  Don't be so chastizing!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "E.T." 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



   Like today? Its downloading at this moment.

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On 6/30/2015 2:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Don't get too excited though.  It doesn't yet have Apple Music.
That's
only available as of today on I O S, although, I suspect it will be
really really really really soon when ITunes 12.2 comes out, which
will
have the integration.  Oh my God I can't wait!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera"

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:21 PM
Subject: os 10.10.4 is here



just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.

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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[christopher hallsworth]

Guys,
Are you locking the screen once you're streaming? I do this all the time, and, 
on my iPad at least, the battery isn't sucking apart from the usual "general 
usage" of the device.


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> On 1 Jul 2015, at 05:00, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Holy crap, this really does eat up the battery! I was at 90% just 15 minutes 
> ago, and now it just said 60 percent.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both talked 
>> today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He has 
>> multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after 
>> doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd already 
>> signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They just 
>> automatically logged him in.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
>> 
>> 
>>> How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
>>> someone else on your plan did it.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
>>> 
>>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
>>> Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, and 
>>> it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it I'm 
>>> already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should also 
>>> be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is 
>>> blowing me away.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Uh, I think that's more than something with Apple Music.  I've lasted all 
day from about 1PM yesterday to now at 2:37AM and I still only now have 
about 65 percent.  What I O S device are you using?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Devin Prater" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Holy crap, this really does eat up the battery! I was at 90% just 15 minutes 
ago, and now it just said 60 percent.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both talked 
today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He has 
multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after 
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already signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They 
just automatically logged him in.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
someone else on your plan did it.


- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 


To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should 
also be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is 
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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Just keep loving and disliking tracks.  It'll get to know you trust me. 
It's only been less than 24 hours, and this thing's already over here really 
starting to get a good idea with me.


Chris.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Yup I dipped into the extra battery too. I was pretty sure the service would 
be pretty crummy but it's actually really good I just don't yet know how to 
make it fit my music listening habits since I'm used to having local copies 
of everything because streaming anything I might want hasn't been handy in 
decent quality before now.


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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yeah, is it all techno/hip hop/rappy/poppy stuff though?  If so, then I 
really am not that interested.  I'm more an 
oldies/country/folk/gospel/bluegrass/children's music as a last resort guyh.


IE:  Randy Travis, Vince Gill, Buddy Holly, Beatles, Beach Boys, Peter Paul 
and Mary, Iris Dement, Alison Krauss, the Krabb Family, The Booth Brothers, 
the Stanley Brothers, Alan Jackson, maybe some more really mellow stuff by 
Brooks and Dunn, Patty Loveless, Reba, maybe Bette Middler, Tommy Page, 
Roxette, James Taylor, kind a stuff like that.  You get the idea.  Maybe 
John Denver.  I'm just not sure how much Beats1 would cator to that type 
style.My best friend calls it old fart music!  The bad thing's he's my age! 
33 years old!  So there!  Pull my finger!  Oh wait...  Seriously though, to 
you think I should check it out, or do you agree, this probably ain't gonna 
be my cup a tea.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


I thought it was pretty good. I'm not much into the techno stuff, or that 
one exclusive song they played twice in a row, but for the hour or so I 
listened, it was good. It's definitely a different style with the little 
sounders mixed into the songs, but a live station wasn't meant to be 
straight music and jingles either. It's definitely something to take a 
listen to.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Yeah, I'm not real sure.  I actually haven't listened to the station yet, 
although I plan to soon.  How's the content variety?  Is it pretty good 
in your ipinion?


Granted, I dono what you like or if your taste is similar to mine, 
probably not, but I mean, just in general, do you find it to be pretty 
good?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


That's nice. You don't need any kind of restore purchases thing. I'm 
liking Beats 1 too, if it will consistently locate me properly in the 
United States. The "Beats1 isn't available in your country" message I 
get sometimes when using it with Siri is annoying. I hope that gets 
fixed soon. The state of Wisconsin isn't near any border, so it must be 
some kind of intermittent bug, or has to do with wifi calling.



- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both 
talked today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did. 
He has multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying 
is, after doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered 
that he'd already signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to 
sign up. They just automatically logged him in.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, 
unless someone else on your plan did it.


- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music 
app, and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to 
tell it I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, 
this should also be the case for the other family members. This is the 
latest that is blowing me away.



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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Weird,

I don't doubt you guys, please know that, but that's just strange!  I'm 
using an AT&T 128GB IPhone 6+, and like I said, from about 1 yesterday 
afternoon until now, just call it, 3 in the morning nearly, I've not seen it 
go down but maybe to around 59 percent or so, and that's with no attempt yet 
to charge from a 100% battery kickoff at 1300 hours yesterday.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


I was playing with it awhile today, and got down to 55 percent. I think 
they want you to have a watch or something to use as a Siri remote to be 
able to keep the phone on the charger. Even with Spotify, and I usually 
airplay it through my old inactive 4S, the battery is done with from full 
in 2 hours or less, but that thing isn't anywhere near new any more.


- Original Message - 
From: "Devin Prater" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Holy crap, this really does eat up the battery! I was at 90% just 15 
minutes ago, and now it just said 60 percent.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both 
talked today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He 
has multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, 
after doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd 
already signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They 
just automatically logged him in.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, 
unless someone else on your plan did it.


- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 


To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should 
also be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that 
is blowing me away.



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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I had some issues getting custom made Apple Music tracks added to playlists 
to sync from my IPhone across to ITunes on the mac, but that's really the 
only quirk I've found.  Actually, it started working after a while.  I think 
it's server load.  The one thing though I had to do is, I can't find a way 
to manually resync playlists which have songs from Apple Music not in my 
local library, nor in the cloud, that I'm only streaming.  So, what I had to 
do is, after adding them on I O S, as I can't find a way to go to the For 
you section on the mac, then add something to a playlist.  But on I O S, if 
I do it, then the only way I so far have been successful even 3/4 of the 
time only, is to command+Q, and quit ITunes, then come back in, and then 
it'll update.


I suspect either 1, it's server load, or 2, it would! auto-refresh, but only 
automatically after X amount of time.  God knows what that amount would be. 
I know it can't be changed, as if it could, I would a seen the option by 
now, as thorough as I was looking at things, trust me!  I'd say logically 
though, I'd think maybe once an hour.  If you want sooner, you gotta restart 
ITunes to force it.  Realize what I am saying isn't necessarily fact.  It's 
only what my observation is so far, so people like Shaf etc. don't come down 
my throat.  I'm only telling you what I've so far seen.  If you think you 
know better, then by all means, correct me.  Do tell, as I'd be curious.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
standpoint



I created a custom station on my old iPhone for S, and the same one showed 
up when I signed into my iPhone 5s. So it seems that custom stations are 
moving across just fine. I don't yet have the new iTunes on my Mac. And I 
haven't tried all the fancy stuff you're talking about otherwise, but custom 
stations are sinking or whatever you call it


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Blee Blat  wrote:

The only thing I've not been able to get to work is that it doesn't seem 
to sync created stations and music listening preferences  across devices. 
I have a mac and iphone that I've signed into here and since I'm usually 
having wifi handy I wouldn't mind paying for this especially if I can 
figure out how to add whole albums for streaming to my library. It looks 
like this could replace several music apps once I can figure out how to 
manage playlists and stations and things across devices. Certainly 
impressed with sound quality and the fact that it has found everything I 
could possibly want to listen to. Now I just need to figure out how to 
make custom playlists and stations so I can do weird things like mix 
Accept albums with Bach and  bagpipe music and have it remember what I was 
playing  when I switch from one device to another because I bounce around 
a lot. But certainly this might save me from having to keep track of large 
collection of stuff once I can figure out the complexity! I certainly 
don't have enough disk space or time to go and download all the stuff I 
would listen to if it was handy to stream so I think this looks very good. 
Big fat warning to anyone with a data cap though this will eat it for 
lunch since 256kbps  is what it streams at. I don't know if it has a lower 
bandwidth option so keep the wifi handy!


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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Hey, I hear ya!  It's all good, my friend.  No harm done.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "E.T." 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



Chris,
   Thanks and no worries. Those kinds of days get us all.

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On 6/30/2015 7:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Sorry, Shaf's message really had pissed me off, and I read his message
about me being a spammer right before seeing and responding to your's,
so needless to say, I was still pretty irked.  I apologize.  I didn't
mean to take it out on you.  It just came across like you thought maybe
I gave misinformation about it not being available initially.

Anyway, sorry for snapping.  Yeah, it has actually been a somewhat
stressful day.  I have a lot on my mind right now with major work
changes etc.  I again didn't mean to come down on ya.  Forgive me.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "E.T." 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



   Having a bad day Chris? It jsut happened that while I was
downloading the updates that I read your message. Take a chill pill
and enjoy Apple Music. (smiles)

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On 6/30/2015 4:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Look'at! Dude?

When I wrote that message, it may not have been available quite yet!
Give me a break for flipping sake!  It's possible that since I wrote
that message, Apple pushed the update.

I only am telling you what Apple Accessibility told me initially when I
called.  Don't be so chastizing!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "E.T." 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



   Like today? Its downloading at this moment.

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On 6/30/2015 2:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Don't get too excited though.  It doesn't yet have Apple Music.
That's
only available as of today on I O S, although, I suspect it will be
really really really really soon when ITunes 12.2 comes out, which
will
have the integration.  Oh my God I can't wait!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera"

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:21 PM
Subject: os 10.10.4 is here



just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.

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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Neither is mine, and yes, I do lock my screen.

If nothing else, turn on your screen curtain, and also set your brightness 
on top of that, to 0%.


That should help.

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- Original Message - 
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To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Guys,
Are you locking the screen once you're streaming? I do this all the time, 
and, on my iPad at least, the battery isn't sucking apart from the usual 
"general usage" of the device.



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On 1 Jul 2015, at 05:00, Devin Prater  wrote:

Holy crap, this really does eat up the battery! I was at 90% just 15 
minutes ago, and now it just said 60 percent.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both 
talked today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He 
has multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, 
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already signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They 
just automatically logged him in.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, 
unless someone else on your plan did it.


- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 


To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
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