Re: Typing mode question

[Krister Ekstrom]

Do you know if you can change any speech settings in Fleksy such as typing echo 
or something? As it is right now mine only speaks words after having typed them 
and then it's too late to change. I made a total mess on Facebook today trying 
to type with Fleksy.
/Krister

> 19 sep 2014 kl. 01:03 skrev Joe Quinn :
> 
> I did what you suggested and it still doesn't work. I turn off voice over and 
> nothing is  spoken. I'm confused!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> You have to enable speech in Fleksy and turn off VO for Fleksy to
>> work. It's awkward because it leaves you no way to switch to another
>> keyboard or read anything while you type.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/17/14, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>>> Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd lost my
>>> mind.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone
 else's explanation) to fully understand it.
 
 If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable
 vision, it might be great.
 
 Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a
 real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes
 contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like
 it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger
 on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch
 typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really
 wanted.
 
 For my part, touch typing still works great.
 
 Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy.
 
 
 --
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi those that know
> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are.
> 
> Gigi
> 
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Re: Typing mode question

[christopher hallsworth]

The only setting for speech is voice feedback.
On 19 Sep 2014, at 11:55, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:

> Do you know if you can change any speech settings in Fleksy such as typing 
> echo or something? As it is right now mine only speaks words after having 
> typed them and then it's too late to change. I made a total mess on Facebook 
> today trying to type with Fleksy.
> /Krister
> 
>> 19 sep 2014 kl. 01:03 skrev Joe Quinn :
>> 
>> I did what you suggested and it still doesn't work. I turn off voice over 
>> and nothing is  spoken. I'm confused!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You have to enable speech in Fleksy and turn off VO for Fleksy to
>>> work. It's awkward because it leaves you no way to switch to another
>>> keyboard or read anything while you type.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 9/17/14, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
 Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd lost 
 my
 mind.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone
> else's explanation) to fully understand it.
> 
> If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable
> vision, it might be great.
> 
> Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a
> real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes
> contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly like
> it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your finger
> on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch
> typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really
> wanted.
> 
> For my part, touch typing still works great.
> 
> Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy.
> 
> 
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: 814-860-3194
> Mobile: 814-431-0962
> Email: bu...@brannan.name
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi those that know
>> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are.
>> 
>> Gigi
>> 
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Re: IOS8 issue already

[Krister Ekstrom]

I think i saw a tweet somewhere that an update is coming at the end of this 
month. Whether it fixes any vo issues though i don't know since we blind are a 
minority and therefore the bugs we encounter have less priority. Having said 
that though, i'm convinced the bugs we have encountered will be fixed sooner or 
later. I haven't seen any bugs that haven't been fixed, how long time it takes 
is a different matter. Just remember to be polite when talking about bugs to 
Apple.
/Krister

> 18 sep 2014 kl. 23:10 skrev Anders Holmberg :
> 
> Hi!
> I guess there will be a bug fix comming next week for ios 8.
> Not sure though.
> /A
> 17 sep 2014 kl. 22:16 skrev Cheryl Homiak :
> 
>> Yes, people have been posting about audible issues.
>> 
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>> 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>> 
>>> Audible won't start. 
>>> 
>>> Oh well...
>>> 
>>> Kev
>>> 
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a cautionary word on iBooks

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

Forgive the cross-post, but I learned something last night in my adventures 
with iBooks that I thought would be of interest to members of both lists.

Once you delete an iBook from your Mac, there is no way to get it back, unless 
someone from Apple reposts it for download.  Personally I think this is 
absolutely ridiculous, if I own it, I should be able to re-download it whenever 
I bloody well please, but that's the way it is.  Kindle is looking better and 
better every day.  

Another thing I've learned is that the books that are downloaded to your 
i-devices are linked to whatever is on your computer, not to the cloud.  I 
still haven't gotten my books back, but I spent an hour and a half on the phone 
with tech support, and they insisted that I had to re-download everything onto 
my computer.  So far that hasn't helped.

Anyway, I thought you all would want to know about the issue with 
re-downloading.
Best,
Donna

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an ibooks question

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

In follow up to my last message, I happily still have my deleted iBooks in my 
trash, so I'd like to try and restore them to iBooks that way.  I see the 
numbered folders that contain each of the books.  To what folder do I need to 
copy them in order for them to be restored to iBooks?
thank you,
Donna

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Re: App store in iOs 8?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello,
I did that and the App Store is now working.



Doug
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It appears to be working normally for me.  I was able to check for updates 
> and ensure that they were applied anyway.  Maybe you could close it in the 
> App Chooser then re-open it to see if that makes any difference.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>> 
>> Anybody else having problems using the app store in iOs 8? When I bring it 
>> up the only thing I see are the tabs on the bottom of the screen and nothing 
>> else. 
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
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Re: App store in iOs 8?

[Feliciano G]

This type of issue, is common when there is a bad  Internet connection. The 
content above just seems to not load.

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> On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
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> Anybody else having problems using the app store in iOs 8? When I bring it up 
> the only thing I see are the tabs on the bottom of the screen and nothing 
> else. 
> 
> Doug
> 
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turning off automatic updates iPhone

[Maria and Joe Chapman]

Hi.

wondering how to totally turn off automatic updates.  I have turned it off in 
settings, but if I'm plugged in and on wifi My apps will still update 
automatically. I am running the latest version of iOS 7. and using a 5s.
regards
Maria and crew from australia
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com



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KNFB Reader iPhone App

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Apparently the app is $100.

CB*
*

*Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014):* The National Federation of 
the Blind 
, 
the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has 
applauded the release of KNFB Reader 
, 
a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, which uses the 
phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) 
technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print 
materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked 
with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with 
Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store. 



Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: 
"The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years 
in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire 
access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to 
day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the 
Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, 
we have been interested in the development of better and more portable 
reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, 
labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, 
even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now 
revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us 
carry each day 
 
provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the 
menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in 
text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable 
Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives 
of many blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live 
the lives we want."


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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Kevin Mattingly]

I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Apparently the app is $100.
> 
> CB
> 
> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the 
> Blind, the nation’s leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has 
> applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other 
> Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone’s camera and state-of-the-art optical 
> character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to 
> the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the 
> Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the 
> app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app 
> store.
> 
> Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: “The 
> National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the 
> development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the 
> various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our 
> first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading 
> Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested 
> in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on 
> office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our 
> environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased 
> electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that 
> resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access 
> to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite 
> restaurant spoken with the iPhone’s built-in text-to-speech technology, or 
> read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will 
> fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to 
> get the information we need and live the lives we want.”
> 
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Re: a cautionary word on iBooks

[Joseph]

Hello,
All you need do is go into purchased and you can redownload the book. At least, 
that's always worked for me. I'll check it a little later when I have my phone.

On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:48 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Forgive the cross-post, but I learned something last night in my adventures 
> with iBooks that I thought would be of interest to members of both lists.
> 
> Once you delete an iBook from your Mac, there is no way to get it back, 
> unless someone from Apple reposts it for download.  Personally I think this 
> is absolutely ridiculous, if I own it, I should be able to re-download it 
> whenever I bloody well please, but that's the way it is.  Kindle is looking 
> better and better every day.  
> 
> Another thing I've learned is that the books that are downloaded to your 
> i-devices are linked to whatever is on your computer, not to the cloud.  I 
> still haven't gotten my books back, but I spent an hour and a half on the 
> phone with tech support, and they insisted that I had to re-download 
> everything onto my computer.  So far that hasn't helped.
> 
> Anyway, I thought you all would want to know about the issue with 
> re-downloading.
> Best,
> Donna
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Re: an ibooks question

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Instead of putting them directly back into the folder, either copy and paste 
them to the Desktop then use the Add to Library feature under the File menu 
within iBooks itself or try a VO-shift-m on the individual book from within the 
Trash and see if there is the "Put Back" option.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:52 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> In follow up to my last message, I happily still have my deleted iBooks in my 
> trash, so I'd like to try and restore them to iBooks that way.  I see the 
> numbered folders that contain each of the books.  To what folder do I need to 
> copy them in order for them to be restored to iBooks?
> thank you,
> Donna
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Re: a cautionary word on iBooks

[Donna Goodin]

For me, the download button is dimmed.
Donna
On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Joseph  wrote:

> Hello,
> All you need do is go into purchased and you can redownload the book. At 
> least, that's always worked for me. I'll check it a little later when I have 
> my phone.
> 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:48 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Forgive the cross-post, but I learned something last night in my adventures 
>> with iBooks that I thought would be of interest to members of both lists.
>> 
>> Once you delete an iBook from your Mac, there is no way to get it back, 
>> unless someone from Apple reposts it for download.  Personally I think this 
>> is absolutely ridiculous, if I own it, I should be able to re-download it 
>> whenever I bloody well please, but that's the way it is.  Kindle is looking 
>> better and better every day.  
>> 
>> Another thing I've learned is that the books that are downloaded to your 
>> i-devices are linked to whatever is on your computer, not to the cloud.  I 
>> still haven't gotten my books back, but I spent an hour and a half on the 
>> phone with tech support, and they insisted that I had to re-download 
>> everything onto my computer.  So far that hasn't helped.
>> 
>> Anyway, I thought you all would want to know about the issue with 
>> re-downloading.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
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RE: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?

[wayne17a]

Hi that is strange I updated yesterday and have had no problems with I books
but will look to see if there is a update for ibooks

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
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Subject: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone knows anything about bugs with the latest iBooks?
I upgraded to IOS 8 last night, and installed the update to iBooks.  Now, I
can see the publisher's blurb for my books when I click on the Purchased
Tab, but that's all I can see.  When I switch to my books, the list is
empty, despite the fact that I have several downloaded.  It doesn't matter
whether I select My Bookshelf, Titles, or Authors, I see nothing.  I had my
sighted husband look at my phone, and he confirmed that the books are not
showing up on the screen at all.  Anyone else had this issue?
Thanks,
Donna

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Re: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?

[Donna Goodin]

If you have an update, I'm not sure I would install it if I were you, that's 
when my problems started.
Cheers,
Donna
On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:55 AM, wayne17a  wrote:

> Hi that is strange I updated yesterday and have had no problems with I books
> but will look to see if there is a update for ibooks
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:32 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering if anyone knows anything about bugs with the latest iBooks?
> I upgraded to IOS 8 last night, and installed the update to iBooks.  Now, I
> can see the publisher's blurb for my books when I click on the Purchased
> Tab, but that's all I can see.  When I switch to my books, the list is
> empty, despite the fact that I have several downloaded.  It doesn't matter
> whether I select My Bookshelf, Titles, or Authors, I see nothing.  I had my
> sighted husband look at my phone, and he confirmed that the books are not
> showing up on the screen at all.  Anyone else had this issue?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: a cautionary word on iBooks

[Joseph]

Hello,
I'll take a look at it shortly after I have access to my iPhone. I didn't try 
redownloading anything after the iOS 8 update.


On Sep 19, 2014, at 7:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> For me, the download button is dimmed.
> Donna
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Joseph  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> All you need do is go into purchased and you can redownload the book. At 
>> least, that's always worked for me. I'll check it a little later when I have 
>> my phone.
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:48 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Forgive the cross-post, but I learned something last night in my adventures 
>>> with iBooks that I thought would be of interest to members of both lists.
>>> 
>>> Once you delete an iBook from your Mac, there is no way to get it back, 
>>> unless someone from Apple reposts it for download.  Personally I think this 
>>> is absolutely ridiculous, if I own it, I should be able to re-download it 
>>> whenever I bloody well please, but that's the way it is.  Kindle is looking 
>>> better and better every day.  
>>> 
>>> Another thing I've learned is that the books that are downloaded to your 
>>> i-devices are linked to whatever is on your computer, not to the cloud.  I 
>>> still haven't gotten my books back, but I spent an hour and a half on the 
>>> phone with tech support, and they insisted that I had to re-download 
>>> everything onto my computer.  So far that hasn't helped.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I thought you all would want to know about the issue with 
>>> re-downloading.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: a cautionary word on iBooks

[Tim Kilburn]

Donna,

this process works for me to download deleted purchased iBooks.  When in iBooks,

* Under the View menu, make sure the "Show Purchases in iCloud" item is 
checked.  This should allow the iBooks app to see iBooks you've purchased but 
that don't reside on your Mac.
* If you see the iBook you wish re-downloaded, arrow to it then press VO-cmd-f5 
to make sure that the mouse is routed to the VO-cursor.
* Hold down the ctrl key and click your mouse or Trackpad.  This will bring up 
the Contextual menu.  The Download option should be there.

The caveat here is that if the iBook is no longer available in the Store, then 
you're options are more limited.  That is, I'm guessing that the Download 
option will not work as the content is no longer available through iTunes, thus 
it is unable to be downloaded.  If you were lucky enough to have a copy on one 
of your iDevices as well, you could probably connect to your iDevice either 
with USB or via WiFi, and transfer your purchases from the iDevice over to your 
Mac.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 19, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> For me, the download button is dimmed.
> Donna
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Joseph  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> All you need do is go into purchased and you can redownload the book. At 
>> least, that's always worked for me. I'll check it a little later when I have 
>> my phone.
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:48 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Forgive the cross-post, but I learned something last night in my adventures 
>>> with iBooks that I thought would be of interest to members of both lists.
>>> 
>>> Once you delete an iBook from your Mac, there is no way to get it back, 
>>> unless someone from Apple reposts it for download.  Personally I think this 
>>> is absolutely ridiculous, if I own it, I should be able to re-download it 
>>> whenever I bloody well please, but that's the way it is.  Kindle is looking 
>>> better and better every day.  
>>> 
>>> Another thing I've learned is that the books that are downloaded to your 
>>> i-devices are linked to whatever is on your computer, not to the cloud.  I 
>>> still haven't gotten my books back, but I spent an hour and a half on the 
>>> phone with tech support, and they insisted that I had to re-download 
>>> everything onto my computer.  So far that hasn't helped.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I thought you all would want to know about the issue with 
>>> re-downloading.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Chris G]

Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
Chris

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On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
Kevin Mattingly  wrote:

> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
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> > Apparently the app is $100.
> > 
> > CB
> > 
> > Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the 
> > Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has 
> > applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other 
> > Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art 
> > optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant 
> > access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National 
> > Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., 
> > which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB Reader is now 
> > available in the iTunes app store.
> > 
> > Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: 
> > "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in 
> > the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to 
> > the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever 
> > since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil 
> > Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been 
> > interested in the development of better and more portable reading 
> > technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and 
> > throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the 
> > increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary 
> > technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day 
> > provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the 
> > menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in 
> > text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille 
> > display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many 
> > blind people, helping us to get the information we need and live the lives 
> > we want."
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Re: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?

[Mary Otten]

Hi Donna and others,
I would like clarification on something. Donna, when you said that you lost 
your books and Apple say I have a book on my Mac and the same book on my iPad. 
I decide I don't want the book on my Mac, so I take it off the Mac. Does that 
mean it goes away from the iPad to? Thank you for clarification.
Mary
told you that they were gone for good unless Apple put them back, how does that 
relate to the following scenario?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> If you have an update, I'm not sure I would install it if I were you, that's 
> when my problems started.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:55 AM, wayne17a  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi that is strange I updated yesterday and have had no problems with I books
>> but will look to see if there is a update for ibooks
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:32 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering if anyone knows anything about bugs with the latest iBooks?
>> I upgraded to IOS 8 last night, and installed the update to iBooks.  Now, I
>> can see the publisher's blurb for my books when I click on the Purchased
>> Tab, but that's all I can see.  When I switch to my books, the list is
>> empty, despite the fact that I have several downloaded.  It doesn't matter
>> whether I select My Bookshelf, Titles, or Authors, I see nothing.  I had my
>> sighted husband look at my phone, and he confirmed that the books are not
>> showing up on the screen at all.  Anyone else had this issue?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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how to expand a list with vo?

[Anouk Radix]

Hi everyone,
In the past i could expand lists within mail (grouped conversations) with 
hitting the right arrow, i could de-expend tham with hitting left. Since today 
this does not seem to work anymore. I can expand ALL covnersations but thats a 
bit messy.
Is there a special command for doing this?
Thanks,
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: how to expand a list with vo?

[gs]

It sometimes stops working correctly.  Try restarting VO and if that doesn't 
work it may take a restart of Mail or the Mac.

On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:

Hi everyone,
In the past i could expand lists within mail (grouped conversations) with 
hitting the right arrow, i could de-expend tham with hitting left. Since today 
this does not seem to work anymore. I can expand ALL covnersations but thats a 
bit messy.
Is there a special command for doing this?
Thanks,
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: how to expand a list with vo?

[Alex Hall]

Right arrow, as you've been doing. This will sometimes stop working, and here's 
what I do:
* find a conversation and hit right arrow, it should make only an error tone.
* Trun VoiceOver off.
* Hit down arrow, then up arrow, to get back to your conversation.
* hit right arrow once or twice. You should not hear an error tone this time.
* Turn VoiceOver back on, and proceed as normal. This only happens once every 
few weeks at most for me.
On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> In the past i could expand lists within mail (grouped conversations) with 
> hitting the right arrow, i could de-expend tham with hitting left. Since 
> today this does not seem to work anymore. I can expand ALL covnersations but 
> thats a bit messy.
> Is there a special command for doing this?
> Thanks,
> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: how to expand a list with vo?

[Anouk Radix]

Hi, Thanks for that, so there is no different command i can try, i thought 
something like vo[ but that does not do it
Greetings, Anouk,
On 19 Sep 2014, at 17:23, gs  wrote:

> It sometimes stops working correctly.  Try restarting VO and if that doesn't 
> work it may take a restart of Mail or the Mac.
> 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> In the past i could expand lists within mail (grouped conversations) with 
> hitting the right arrow, i could de-expend tham with hitting left. Since 
> today this does not seem to work anymore. I can expand ALL covnersations but 
> thats a bit messy.
> Is there a special command for doing this?
> Thanks,
> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Mary,

I'm still kind of confused about this, but that would seem to be the case.  I 
just got off the phone with tech support again, and the first thing he had me 
do was re-download everything onto my computer.  I'll do some further 
experimenting, and let you know what I find.
Best,
Donna
On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Hi Donna and others,
> I would like clarification on something. Donna, when you said that you lost 
> your books and Apple say I have a book on my Mac and the same book on my 
> iPad. I decide I don't want the book on my Mac, so I take it off the Mac. 
> Does that mean it goes away from the iPad to? Thank you for clarification.
> Mary
> told you that they were gone for good unless Apple put them back, how does 
> that relate to the following scenario?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> If you have an update, I'm not sure I would install it if I were you, that's 
>> when my problems started.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:55 AM, wayne17a  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi that is strange I updated yesterday and have had no problems with I books
>>> but will look to see if there is a update for ibooks
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:32 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if anyone knows anything about bugs with the latest iBooks?
>>> I upgraded to IOS 8 last night, and installed the update to iBooks.  Now, I
>>> can see the publisher's blurb for my books when I click on the Purchased
>>> Tab, but that's all I can see.  When I switch to my books, the list is
>>> empty, despite the fact that I have several downloaded.  It doesn't matter
>>> whether I select My Bookshelf, Titles, or Authors, I see nothing.  I had my
>>> sighted husband look at my phone, and he confirmed that the books are not
>>> showing up on the screen at all.  Anyone else had this issue?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: how to expand a list with vo?

[Anouk Radix]

Hi Alex,
Thanks for that. Now that i think about it i remember people talking about this 
before. But I have had mavericks installed for months and months now and use 
daily and this was the first time it cropped up.
I restarted the mac and that did the trick.
Thanks again for the quick replies!
Greetings, Anouk,
On 19 Sep 2014, at 17:24, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Right arrow, as you've been doing. This will sometimes stop working, and 
> here's what I do:
> * find a conversation and hit right arrow, it should make only an error tone.
> * Trun VoiceOver off.
> * Hit down arrow, then up arrow, to get back to your conversation.
> * hit right arrow once or twice. You should not hear an error tone this time.
> * Turn VoiceOver back on, and proceed as normal. This only happens once every 
> few weeks at most for me.
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> In the past i could expand lists within mail (grouped conversations) with 
>> hitting the right arrow, i could de-expend tham with hitting left. Since 
>> today this does not seem to work anymore. I can expand ALL covnersations but 
>> thats a bit messy.
>> Is there a special command for doing this?
>> Thanks,
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
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Re: an ibooks question

[peter Apgar]

Can you go to the iBooks store in your purchase list and simply download them 
again?

Pete 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Instead of putting them directly back into the folder, either copy and paste 
> them to the Desktop then use the Add to Library feature under the File menu 
> within iBooks itself or try a VO-shift-m on the individual book from within 
> the Trash and see if there is the "Put Back" option.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:52 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> In follow up to my last message, I happily still have my deleted iBooks in 
>> my trash, so I'd like to try and restore them to iBooks that way.  I see the 
>> numbered folders that contain each of the books.  To what folder do I need 
>> to copy them in order for them to be restored to iBooks?
>> thank you,
>> Donna
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To Mary, more on relation between computer and i-device in iBooks

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Mary and all,

Well, I just deleted a book from my Mac, and that did not remove it from my 
phone, so I guess that you can have a book on one and not the other.  Now I'm 
wondering why the tech support people were so obsessed with re-downloading the 
books onto my Mac.  Weird.
Donna

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Re: how to expand a list with vo?

[Ray Foret Jr]

An easier way.

1.  Turn Voice OVer off.

2.  Press Command+right arrow after about three seconds.

3.  Turn on Voice OVer.


Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!

On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Right arrow, as you've been doing. This will sometimes stop working, and 
> here's what I do:
> * find a conversation and hit right arrow, it should make only an error tone.
> * Trun VoiceOver off.
> * Hit down arrow, then up arrow, to get back to your conversation.
> * hit right arrow once or twice. You should not hear an error tone this time.
> * Turn VoiceOver back on, and proceed as normal. This only happens once every 
> few weeks at most for me.
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> In the past i could expand lists within mail (grouped conversations) with 
>> hitting the right arrow, i could de-expend tham with hitting left. Since 
>> today this does not seem to work anymore. I can expand ALL covnersations but 
>> thats a bit messy.
>> Is there a special command for doing this?
>> Thanks,
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
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Re: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

No, in theory, it should not.  Those purchases you make through iTunes and have 
specifically downloaded to your Mac or iPad, will remain on the other device if 
you don't  specifically remove them.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:14 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Hi Donna and others,
> I would like clarification on something. Donna, when you said that you lost 
> your books and Apple say I have a book on my Mac and the same book on my 
> iPad. I decide I don't want the book on my Mac, so I take it off the Mac. 
> Does that mean it goes away from the iPad to? Thank you for clarification.
> Mary
> told you that they were gone for good unless Apple put them back, how does 
> that relate to the following scenario?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> If you have an update, I'm not sure I would install it if I were you, that's 
>> when my problems started.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:55 AM, wayne17a  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi that is strange I updated yesterday and have had no problems with I books
>>> but will look to see if there is a update for ibooks
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:32 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if anyone knows anything about bugs with the latest iBooks?
>>> I upgraded to IOS 8 last night, and installed the update to iBooks.  Now, I
>>> can see the publisher's blurb for my books when I click on the Purchased
>>> Tab, but that's all I can see.  When I switch to my books, the list is
>>> empty, despite the fact that I have several downloaded.  It doesn't matter
>>> whether I select My Bookshelf, Titles, or Authors, I see nothing.  I had my
>>> sighted husband look at my phone, and he confirmed that the books are not
>>> showing up on the screen at all.  Anyone else had this issue?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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resolution of ibooks issue

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

Again, excuse cross-post, but want to provide info to both lists in case anyone 
needs it.

I called tech support again this morning, and finally got someone who knew what 
they were doing.  I don't understand why, but I was never able to re-download 
books from within the iBooks app, I had to do it by going into iTunes, iTunes 
store, and using the download all button.  That got all books back onto my 
computer.  We then went over to my phone, and the books then showed up on my 
phone.  I'm still a little unclear about what the issue was.  When I first went 
into iBooks on the phone, PDFs was selected, but that had not been the case 
before--I'm sure of this, because I tried selecting and unselecting it when I 
was working on this yesterday and nothing changed, I'm as suing I'd just left 
it selected after one of the many things I tried before..  But this time when I 
selected all books, my books were displayed properly.  So I'm assuming that 
re-downloading in iTunes did something, but I don't really know what.

So, I know they're not conclusive steps, and I wish I had more definitive 
advice to offer, but I would say that if you encounter this problem, try 
re-downloading through  iTunes.  then see if that makes them show up on the 
phone.

Cheers,
Donna

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Re: an ibooks question

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Peter,

As I said, only in iTunes.  But at least I finally got them back.
Donna
On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:31 AM, peter Apgar  wrote:

> Can you go to the iBooks store in your purchase list and simply download them 
> again?
> 
> Pete 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Instead of putting them directly back into the folder, either copy and paste 
>> them to the Desktop then use the Add to Library feature under the File menu 
>> within iBooks itself or try a VO-shift-m on the individual book from within 
>> the Trash and see if there is the "Put Back" option.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:52 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> In follow up to my last message, I happily still have my deleted iBooks in 
>>> my trash, so I'd like to try and restore them to iBooks that way.  I see 
>>> the numbered folders that contain each of the books.  To what folder do I 
>>> need to copy them in order for them to be restored to iBooks?
>>> thank you,
>>> Donna
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Re: Changing email address

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Weird. I checked in the admin tools and I couldn't find either address. 
Want me to add floda...@gmx.com?


CB

On 9/15/14, 5:41 PM, Angus MacKinnon wrote:

Chris

Would you know why the MacVisionaries list is still using thedog...@gmail.com 
and not floda...@gmx.com? Everytime I send something to 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com with the from field of floda...@gmx.com and not 
thedog...@gmail.com, I get a message from Googlegroups that I am not subscribed 
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Re: a cautionary word on iBooks

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Tim,

thanks for this.  I did not have the Show Purchases in iCloud checked.  I've 
also never used the Ctrl-Trackpad, I was trying to bring up the Context menu 
with VO-Shift M.
Cheers,
Donna 
On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Donna,
> 
> this process works for me to download deleted purchased iBooks.  When in 
> iBooks,
> 
> * Under the View menu, make sure the "Show Purchases in iCloud" item is 
> checked.  This should allow the iBooks app to see iBooks you've purchased but 
> that don't reside on your Mac.
> * If you see the iBook you wish re-downloaded, arrow to it then press 
> VO-cmd-f5 to make sure that the mouse is routed to the VO-cursor.
> * Hold down the ctrl key and click your mouse or Trackpad.  This will bring 
> up the Contextual menu.  The Download option should be there.
> 
> The caveat here is that if the iBook is no longer available in the Store, 
> then you're options are more limited.  That is, I'm guessing that the 
> Download option will not work as the content is no longer available through 
> iTunes, thus it is unable to be downloaded.  If you were lucky enough to have 
> a copy on one of your iDevices as well, you could probably connect to your 
> iDevice either with USB or via WiFi, and transfer your purchases from the 
> iDevice over to your Mac.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> For me, the download button is dimmed.
>> Donna
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Joseph  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> All you need do is go into purchased and you can redownload the book. At 
>>> least, that's always worked for me. I'll check it a little later when I 
>>> have my phone.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:48 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 Forgive the cross-post, but I learned something last night in my 
 adventures with iBooks that I thought would be of interest to members of 
 both lists.
 
 Once you delete an iBook from your Mac, there is no way to get it back, 
 unless someone from Apple reposts it for download.  Personally I think 
 this is absolutely ridiculous, if I own it, I should be able to 
 re-download it whenever I bloody well please, but that's the way it is.  
 Kindle is looking better and better every day.  
 
 Another thing I've learned is that the books that are downloaded to your 
 i-devices are linked to whatever is on your computer, not to the cloud.  I 
 still haven't gotten my books back, but I spent an hour and a half on the 
 phone with tech support, and they insisted that I had to re-download 
 everything onto my computer.  So far that hasn't helped.
 
 Anyway, I thought you all would want to know about the issue with 
 re-downloading.
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Re: how to expand a list with vo?

[Traci Duncan]

Hello, do you mean, for example, if you are focusing on a mail conversation 
with say 6 messages, you want to expand them into a row?  I just hit 
VO-spacebar.  This opens it up for me.

Hope I'm understanding what you want to accomplish.  :)

Traci

On Sep 19, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> An easier way.
> 
> 1.  Turn Voice OVer off.
> 
> 2.  Press Command+right arrow after about three seconds.
> 
> 3.  Turn on Voice OVer.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
> 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Right arrow, as you've been doing. This will sometimes stop working, and 
>> here's what I do:
>> * find a conversation and hit right arrow, it should make only an error tone.
>> * Trun VoiceOver off.
>> * Hit down arrow, then up arrow, to get back to your conversation.
>> * hit right arrow once or twice. You should not hear an error tone this time.
>> * Turn VoiceOver back on, and proceed as normal. This only happens once 
>> every few weeks at most for me.
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> In the past i could expand lists within mail (grouped conversations) with 
>>> hitting the right arrow, i could de-expend tham with hitting left. Since 
>>> today this does not seem to work anymore. I can expand ALL covnersations 
>>> but thats a bit messy.
>>> Is there a special command for doing this?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
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iTunes playback options

[Traci Duncan]

Ok, I feel like a dork for asking this, but (shrugs) I don't know how to fix it.

I've been listening to iTunes on my Mac lately via bluetooth speaker, and I 
notice my playlists never play in the order I think they will, or sometimes 
they loop around and play again.  Where are settings that I may look at to see 
what's up?  I want to tap the first track to play and listen on through.  No 
shuffle, no repeat.

Thank you,
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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Cameron Strife]

$100? Ouch.




On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
> Chris
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> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
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>> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
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>> > Apparently the app is $100.
>> >
>> > CB
>> >
>> > Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the
>> > Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind,
>> > has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
>> > other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
>> > state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give
>> > the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of
>> > the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
>> > Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB
>> > Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
>> >
>> > Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said:
>> > "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years
>> > in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
>> > access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to
>> > day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the
>> > Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance,
>> > we have been interested in the development of better and more portable
>> > reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus,
>> > labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life,
>> > even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now
>> > revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us
>> > carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear
>> > our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's
>> > built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a
>> > refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the
>> > everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information
>> > we need and live the lives we want."
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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Gary]

Yep, I know.

Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?

Gary
On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife  wrote:

> $100? Ouch.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>> Chris
>> 
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>> 
>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
>> Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>> 
>>> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
  wrote:
 
 Apparently the app is $100.
 
 CB
 
 Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the
 Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind,
 has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
 other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
 state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give
 the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of
 the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
 Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB
 Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
 
 Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said:
 "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years
 in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
 access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to
 day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the
 Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance,
 we have been interested in the development of better and more portable
 reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus,
 labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life,
 even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now
 revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us
 carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear
 our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's
 built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a
 refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the
 everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information
 we need and live the lives we want."
 
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Question about Apple TV

[Scott Berry]

Hello there
I was wondering can someone describe to me how to get through the initial set 
up stages of the Apple TV so that I can get to where I can actually turn on 
voice over I'd like to cancel everything and get voiceover on that and then 
continue setting up the Apple TV after that thank you very much and have a 
great day

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Re: iTunes playback options

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

When in your Playlist, Interact with the list of songs.  Focus on the song you 
wish to start from then press return.  This will start playing the song that 
had focus.  Stop Interacting with that list and locate the LCD panel, then 
Interact with it.  In that panel, there are two buttons you need to look at.  
One toggles between "Repeat All", "repeat One" and "Do Not Repeat" and the 
other toggles between "Shuffle" and "Do Not Shuffle".  The thing to consider 
here is that the button is asking you what you want to do, not the current 
state.

So, if you don't want it to shuffle, then the button will likely be showing in 
"Shuffle" action, so that if you press it, shuffling will begin.  If it reads 
"Do Not Shuffle", just press on it and your music will no longer be shuffled.

For the repeating, you can toggle through until you hear "Do Not Repeat" and 
press on that one or if you hear that the button reads "repeat All", then it is 
already in the "do Not Repeat" state and pressing the "repeat All" will cause 
it to do exactly that.

Hopefully, this wasn't too confusing.  It works for my brain, but I'm the one 
saying it.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

> Ok, I feel like a dork for asking this, but (shrugs) I don't know how to fix 
> it.
> 
> I've been listening to iTunes on my Mac lately via bluetooth speaker, and I 
> notice my playlists never play in the order I think they will, or sometimes 
> they loop around and play again.  Where are settings that I may look at to 
> see what's up?  I want to tap the first track to play and listen on through.  
> No shuffle, no repeat.
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Kevin Mattingly]

It just works. I'm glad I bought it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  wrote:
> 
> Yep, I know.
> 
> Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
> 
> Gary
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> $100? Ouch.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
>>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> Mystic Access
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>>> 733 Delaware Rd 341
>>> Buffalo, NY 14223
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>>> web: www.mysticaccess.com
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>>> 
>>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
>>> Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>>> 
 I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
> 
> Apparently the app is $100.
> 
> CB
> 
> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the
> Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind,
> has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
> other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
> state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give
> the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of
> the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
> Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB
> Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
> 
> Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said:
> "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years
> in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
> access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to
> day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the
> Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance,
> we have been interested in the development of better and more portable
> reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus,
> labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life,
> even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now
> revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us
> carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear
> our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's
> built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a
> refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the
> everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information
> we need and live the lives we want."
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Re: Question about Apple TV

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It's been a while since I've set one up, so, hopefully I'm not missing anything 
here.

If your Apple TV is brand new out of the box, or if it has been reset to 
Factory defaults, then plug in your HDMI cable into whatever piece of equipment 
you wish it connected through followed by plugging in the power cord.  The 
Apple TV will get to a point where it asks you about choosing a language.  At 
this point, you should be able to triple -click the Select button (centre of 
the big button on the remote) and VO will start talking.  Once VO is on, you're 
able to do the entire setup on your own.  If it is a second hand Apple TV, it 
can be done, it just takes a little more work.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:

> Hello there
> I was wondering can someone describe to me how to get through the initial set 
> up stages of the Apple TV so that I can get to where I can actually turn on 
> voice over I'd like to cancel everything and get voiceover on that and then 
> continue setting up the Apple TV after that thank you very much and have a 
> great day
> 
> Scott BerrySent from my iPhone
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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Donna Goodin]

Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to 
purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or 
Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the 
positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
Thanks,
Donna

On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly  wrote:

> It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep, I know.
>> 
>> Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
>> 
>> Gary
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> $100? Ouch.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
 Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
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> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Apparently the app is $100.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the
>> Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind,
>> has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
>> other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
>> state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give
>> the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of
>> the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
>> Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB
>> Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
>> 
>> Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said:
>> "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years
>> in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
>> access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to
>> day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the
>> Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance,
>> we have been interested in the development of better and more portable
>> reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus,
>> labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life,
>> even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now
>> revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us
>> carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear
>> our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's
>> built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a
>> refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the
>> everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information
>> we need and live the lives we want."
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Re: recommendation for braille device

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well in what sense is this the best braille display now?
I don't have one so i am willing to know.
/A
18 sep 2014 kl. 17:59 skrev erik burggraaf :

> Hi,  If you can, rock the new baum vareo ultra.  It's the best full featured 
> display on the market right now.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> So I've decided to jump to reading braille after a few years of being blind. 
>> Can anyone recommend me a good high quality braille device, bluetooth 
>> enabled such and such that I can start using braille tutor with and learn to 
>> read this semester?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> 
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>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>> Mob: +642102277190
>> Skype: Shainobi1
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>> 
>> 
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Re: recommendation for braille device

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
There are also the handytech devices.
Note that they have very special designed cells for best reading experiences.
They're concave so it can take a while to learn to use them.
Some including me does like these types of cells and some don't.
Note though that thay have a display basic braille which doesn't have these 
concave cells.
Its called the basic braille as i mentioned above and is their less expensive 
model.
/A
18 sep 2014 kl. 17:43 skrev Cheree Heppe :

> Cheree Heppe here:
> 
> Braille aware devices could be said to come in two basic types: displays and 
> note takers.  Now, a hybrid type having some note taking capabilities also 
> are emerging.
> 
> Which Braille device you may prefer is personal.  Unfortunately, a blind user 
> cannot simply memorize one set of operational commands and then use those to 
> evaluate every brand of Braille aware device.  Each company designs commands 
> and key press combinations special to that company into their devices.  
> Sometimes, the command structure varys widely even within one company's 
> offerings.
> 
> I have not seen many of these Braille devices and can speak from limited 
> direct experience.  I have liked a device not supported by HumanWare now, 
> called the PK.  This operated easily and nearly silently and was small and 
> easily portable.  It had good word processsing and other useful apps and 
> interfaces.  The company who made these, Baum Retec, out of Germany, now has 
> a U.S. subsidiary in Massachusetts.  Their note takers are pretty useful, but 
> I must admit to difficulty learning their command structure.  That could be 
> me, however and your milage may vary.
> 
> I've heard of something for unfer F1,000.00 called the Braille Pen.  It now 
> has cursor routing capability.  I am not familiar with what it can or cannot 
> do.  It is small and portable.
> 
> I guess I would contact the American Council of the Blind and ask about 
> resources and user experiences with Braille aware devices.  You could also 
> contact the NFB or your local rehab agency, providing the agency is worth the 
> trouble where you are served.
> 
> What I did was to obtain a used PK and send it to Oehm Electronics in San 
> Jose, California to get the very long lasting battery they have access to and 
> to get the machine looked at.  This way, I could use the PK and maybe even 
> pay the nearly $400 to HumanWare to get the last update for that device.  My 
> PK I sent to Baum to be upgraded to one of their Pronto devices.  This will 
> give me multi-connect Bluetooth capability and a lot of functionality.  I do 
> have to re-learn how to use that newly upgraded device, however.
> 
> Hope this has helped and not confused.  Oh, yes.  A lot of people seem to 
> like the Hymms (sp) devices.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Cheree Heppe
> 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone 4S
> 
> On 18 Sep 2014, at 7:28, Cameron Strife  wrote:
> 
> Hi. I'm selling a mint condition humanware brailliant bi40
> bluetooth/USB braille display that works with iOS, OSX, and windows if
> you'd be interested...
> 
> I found the braille cells to have a nice solid feel without being
> "sharp" like other displays I looked at before purchasing it.
> 
> Hit me up off list for more info.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/18/14, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> So I've decided to jump to reading braille after a few years of being blind.
>> Can anyone recommend me a good high quality braille device, bluetooth
>> enabled such and such that I can start using braille tutor with and learn to
>> read this semester?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Yuma Antoine Decaux
>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>> Mob: +642102277190
>> Skype: Shainobi1
>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7
>> 
>> 
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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Chris G]

Hi,
Here is a well done podcast on the KNFB Reader.
http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast600.mp3

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On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:28:18 -0500
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> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to 
> purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or 
> Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the 
> positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
> 
> > It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Yep, I know.
> >> 
> >> Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
> >> 
> >> Gary
> >>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife  
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> $100? Ouch.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
>  On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
>  Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>  Chris
>  
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>  On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
>  Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>  
> > I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Apparently the app is $100.
> >> 
> >> CB
> >> 
> >> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of 
> >> the
> >> Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind,
> >> has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
> >> other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
> >> state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give
> >> the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of
> >> the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
> >> Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. 
> >> KNFB
> >> Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
> >> 
> >> Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
> >> said:
> >> "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years
> >> in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
> >> access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to
> >> day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop 
> >> the
> >> Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance,
> >> we have been interested in the development of better and more portable
> >> reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus,
> >> labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday 
> >> life,
> >> even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now
> >> revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us
> >> carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear
> >> our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the 
> >> iPhone's
> >> built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a
> >> refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the
> >> everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information
> >> we need and live the lives we want."
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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Kevin Mattingly]

I've only tried to read a couple of things. I'd let it read a guitar strings 
package and it read just about everything on there that I could ever want it 
too. I had it read a check and it read the check label, the description of the 
pattern based on the fact that it was a check with kiss on it. It just seems 
like it just gets it. I agree that the cameras placement has been a pain with 
other apps. I used it to read the screen on my refrigerator too. It did a 
pretty good job there as well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to 
> purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or 
> Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the 
> positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>> 
>> It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep, I know.
>>> 
>>> Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
>>> 
>>> Gary
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife  
 wrote:
 
 $100? Ouch.
 
 
 
 
> On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
> Chris
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> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
> Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
> 
>> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apparently the app is $100.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the
>>> Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind,
>>> has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
>>> other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
>>> state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give
>>> the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of
>>> the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
>>> Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB
>>> Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
>>> 
>>> Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said:
>>> "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years
>>> in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
>>> access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to
>>> day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the
>>> Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance,
>>> we have been interested in the development of better and more portable
>>> reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus,
>>> labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life,
>>> even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now
>>> revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us
>>> carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear
>>> our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's
>>> built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a
>>> refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the
>>> everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information
>>> we need and live the lives we want."
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Re: Question about Apple TV

[Joe Quinn]

Actually, it's the rightmost button on the apple Remote thqt you'd  triple 
press. Also, if your Apple TV is brand-new, and you plug it in. When it turns 
on, it should eventually come up with a voice telling you to triple tap that 
button.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It's been a while since I've set one up, so, hopefully I'm not missing 
> anything here.
> 
> If your Apple TV is brand new out of the box, or if it has been reset to 
> Factory defaults, then plug in your HDMI cable into whatever piece of 
> equipment you wish it connected through followed by plugging in the power 
> cord.  The Apple TV will get to a point where it asks you about choosing a 
> language.  At this point, you should be able to triple -click the Select 
> button (centre of the big button on the remote) and VO will start talking.  
> Once VO is on, you're able to do the entire setup on your own.  If it is a 
> second hand Apple TV, it can be done, it just takes a little more work.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello there
>> I was wondering can someone describe to me how to get through the initial 
>> set up stages of the Apple TV so that I can get to where I can actually turn 
>> on voice over I'd like to cancel everything and get voiceover on that and 
>> then continue setting up the Apple TV after that thank you very much and 
>> have a great day
>> 
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Re: Question about Apple TV

[Scott Berry]

So Joe
Is this the button that is the play pause button and also is this for the Apple 
third-generation TVsdoes this also do it when there are new updates I just 
installed the newest update for AppleTV

Scott BerrySent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 13:10, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Actually, it's the rightmost button on the apple Remote thqt you'd  triple 
> press. Also, if your Apple TV is brand-new, and you plug it in. When it turns 
> on, it should eventually come up with a voice telling you to triple tap that 
> button.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It's been a while since I've set one up, so, hopefully I'm not missing 
>> anything here.
>> 
>> If your Apple TV is brand new out of the box, or if it has been reset to 
>> Factory defaults, then plug in your HDMI cable into whatever piece of 
>> equipment you wish it connected through followed by plugging in the power 
>> cord.  The Apple TV will get to a point where it asks you about choosing a 
>> language.  At this point, you should be able to triple -click the Select 
>> button (centre of the big button on the remote) and VO will start talking.  
>> Once VO is on, you're able to do the entire setup on your own.  If it is a 
>> second hand Apple TV, it can be done, it just takes a little more work.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello there
>>> I was wondering can someone describe to me how to get through the initial 
>>> set up stages of the Apple TV so that I can get to where I can actually 
>>> turn on voice over I'd like to cancel everything and get voiceover on that 
>>> and then continue setting up the Apple TV after that thank you very much 
>>> and have a great day
>>> 
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Re: Question about Apple TV

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Here's the Support article with the info you'll need.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4466?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:

> So Joe
> Is this the button that is the play pause button and also is this for the 
> Apple third-generation TVsdoes this also do it when there are new updates I 
> just installed the newest update for AppleTV
> 
> Scott BerrySent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 13:10, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, it's the rightmost button on the apple Remote thqt you'd  triple 
>> press. Also, if your Apple TV is brand-new, and you plug it in. When it 
>> turns on, it should eventually come up with a voice telling you to triple 
>> tap that button.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> It's been a while since I've set one up, so, hopefully I'm not missing 
>>> anything here.
>>> 
>>> If your Apple TV is brand new out of the box, or if it has been reset to 
>>> Factory defaults, then plug in your HDMI cable into whatever piece of 
>>> equipment you wish it connected through followed by plugging in the power 
>>> cord.  The Apple TV will get to a point where it asks you about choosing a 
>>> language.  At this point, you should be able to triple -click the Select 
>>> button (centre of the big button on the remote) and VO will start talking.  
>>> Once VO is on, you're able to do the entire setup on your own.  If it is a 
>>> second hand Apple TV, it can be done, it just takes a little more work.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:
 
 Hello there
 I was wondering can someone describe to me how to get through the initial 
 set up stages of the Apple TV so that I can get to where I can actually 
 turn on voice over I'd like to cancel everything and get voiceover on that 
 and then continue setting up the Apple TV after that thank you very much 
 and have a great day
 
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Re: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I have this issue allready in ios 7.
SO i am not sure whats going on.
/A
19 sep 2014 kl. 00:31 skrev Donna Goodin :

> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering if anyone knows anything about bugs with the latest iBooks?  I 
> upgraded to IOS 8 last night, and installed the update to iBooks.  Now, I can 
> see the publisher's blurb for my books when I click on the Purchased Tab, but 
> that's all I can see.  When I switch to my books, the list is empty, despite 
> the fact that I have several downloaded.  It doesn't matter whether I select 
> My Bookshelf, Titles, or Authors, I see nothing.  I had my sighted husband 
> look at my phone, and he confirmed that the books are not showing up on the 
> screen at all.  Anyone else had this issue?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Lisette Wesseling]

Donna,
I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per 
cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of 
numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up 
and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to 
that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole 
document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to.
It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm 
now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the 
time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my 
phone.
It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts 
reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.

Good luck with your decision

Lisette

On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to 
> purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or 
> Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the 
> positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
> 
>> It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep, I know.
>>> 
>>> Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
>>> 
>>> Gary
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife  
 wrote:
 
 $100? Ouch.
 
 
 
 
> On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
> Chris
> 
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> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
> Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
> 
>> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apparently the app is $100.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the
>>> Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind,
>>> has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
>>> other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
>>> state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give
>>> the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of
>>> the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
>>> Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB
>>> Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
>>> 
>>> Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said:
>>> "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years
>>> in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
>>> access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to
>>> day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the
>>> Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance,
>>> we have been interested in the development of better and more portable
>>> reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus,
>>> labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life,
>>> even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now
>>> revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us
>>> carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear
>>> our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's
>>> built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a
>>> refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the
>>> everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information
>>> we need and live the lives we want."
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synching content from my mac to somone elses idevice

[Lee Jones]

Dear List I need to synch some non drm mp3 files to someone else's idevice.  I 
know I can sign out of itunes  and sign in with there apple id, but I don't 
want to do  this because I don't want to mess up my itunes match and would like 
to keep their library separate from mine.  Is it possible to have two versions 
of itunes running on the same mac, accessing different itunes libraries, and 
signed in with different apple ids and if so how is this achieved.

Many Thanks Lee

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Re: synching content from my mac to somone elses idevice

[Rob]

Hi,
I dont know a lot about iTunes, but it may say that the iPhone is 
synched with another computer, and all data will be deleted.

I dont think your friend will like that.
You can use the app for the mac called iTools.
It will do just what you need.
I downloaded it from
www.macupdate.com
This is just my 2 cents!
On 9/19/2014 2:33 PM, Lee Jones wrote:

Dear List I need to synch some non drm mp3 files to someone else's idevice.  I 
know I can sign out of itunes  and sign in with there apple id, but I don't 
want to do  this because I don't want to mess up my itunes match and would like 
to keep their library separate from mine.  Is it possible to have two versions 
of itunes running on the same mac, accessing different itunes libraries, and 
signed in with different apple ids and if so how is this achieved.

Many Thanks Lee



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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Ray Foret Jr]

Frankly, I could not agree more!!!  My flat bed scanning days are through:  or 
just about anyhow.  I never got such good results with the other OCR apps.  Not 
even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay.  The KNFB 
reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate.  Yes, it 
does help you angle the camra just right.  I didn't realize, until I started 
using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far 
upward.


Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!

On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> Donna,
> I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 
> per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots 
> of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the 
> document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had 
> anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely 
> got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you 
> want it to.
> It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm 
> now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the 
> time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my 
> phone.
> It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts 
> reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.
> 
> Good luck with your decision
> 
> Lisette
> 
> On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to 
>> purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or 
>> Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the 
>> positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>> 
>>> It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  wrote:
 
 Yep, I know.
 
 Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
 
 Gary
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife  
> wrote:
> 
> $100? Ouch.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>> Chris
>> 
>> Mystic Access
>> Where the magic is in learning.
>> 733 Delaware Rd 341
>> Buffalo, NY 14223
>> Phone: (716) 743-8244
>> web: www.mysticaccess.com
>> 
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>> http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com
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>> Twitter: JediKent
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
>> Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>> 
>>> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
  wrote:
 
 Apparently the app is $100.
 
 CB
 
 Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of 
 the
 Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind,
 has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
 other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
 state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give
 the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of
 the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
 Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. 
 KNFB
 Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
 
 Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
 said:
 "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years
 in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
 access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to
 day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop 
 the
 Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance,
 we have been interested in the development of better and more portable
 reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus,
 labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday 
 life,
 even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now
 revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us
 car

Re: Question about Apple TV

[Joe Quinn]

Yes on all questions 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> So Joe
> Is this the button that is the play pause button and also is this for the 
> Apple third-generation TVsdoes this also do it when there are new updates I 
> just installed the newest update for AppleTV
> 
> Scott BerrySent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 13:10, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, it's the rightmost button on the apple Remote thqt you'd  triple 
>> press. Also, if your Apple TV is brand-new, and you plug it in. When it 
>> turns on, it should eventually come up with a voice telling you to triple 
>> tap that button.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> It's been a while since I've set one up, so, hopefully I'm not missing 
>>> anything here.
>>> 
>>> If your Apple TV is brand new out of the box, or if it has been reset to 
>>> Factory defaults, then plug in your HDMI cable into whatever piece of 
>>> equipment you wish it connected through followed by plugging in the power 
>>> cord.  The Apple TV will get to a point where it asks you about choosing a 
>>> language.  At this point, you should be able to triple -click the Select 
>>> button (centre of the big button on the remote) and VO will start talking.  
>>> Once VO is on, you're able to do the entire setup on your own.  If it is a 
>>> second hand Apple TV, it can be done, it just takes a little more work.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:
 
 Hello there
 I was wondering can someone describe to me how to get through the initial 
 set up stages of the Apple TV so that I can get to where I can actually 
 turn on voice over I'd like to cancel everything and get voiceover on that 
 and then continue setting up the Apple TV after that thank you very much 
 and have a great day
 
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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Krister Ekstrom]

The interesting thing about all this is that according to the app itself, it 
uses Abbyy Finereaders OCR engine and Textgrabber is actually very fast when it 
comes to recognizing the text, but it's much harder to get a good result.
It makes me wonder how the IPhone app compares to the old Nokia app, which 
didn't impress me much.
/Krister

> 19 sep 2014 kl. 21:41 skrev Ray Foret Jr :
> 
> Frankly, I could not agree more!!!  My flat bed scanning days are through:  
> or just about anyhow.  I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. 
>  Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay.  The 
> KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate.  
> Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right.  I didn't realize, until I 
> started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens 
> much too far upward.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
> 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling  > wrote:
> 
>> Donna,
>> I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 
>> per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has 
>> lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the 
>> document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had 
>> anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely 
>> got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if 
>> you want it to.
>> It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm 
>> now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at 
>> the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app 
>> on my phone.
>> It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts 
>> reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.
>> 
>> Good luck with your decision
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>> On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to 
>>> purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or 
>>> Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is 
>>> the positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly >> > wrote:
>>> 
 It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  > wrote:
> 
> Yep, I know.
> 
> Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
> 
> Gary
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife > > wrote:
>> 
>> $100? Ouch.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/19/14, Chris G >> > wrote:
>>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> Mystic Access
>>> Where the magic is in learning.
>>> 733 Delaware Rd 341
>>> Buffalo, NY 14223
>>> Phone: (716) 743-8244
>>> web: www.mysticaccess.com 
>>> 
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>>> http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com
>>>  
>>> 
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>>> Twitter: MysticAccess
>>> Twitter: JediKent
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
>>> Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>>> 
 I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
> 
> Apparently the app is $100.
> 
> CB
> 
> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of 
> the
> Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind,
> has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
> other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
> state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to 
> give
> the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members 
> of
> the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
> Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. 
> KNFB
> Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
> 
> Mark Riccobono, Presiden

RE: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello, 

Since you brought up the topic of scanning a credit card bill, I have a
question for you and anyone else that has the app. Can the KNFB app read the
back of a credit card where the 3 digit security code is or for that matter
scan the from where the account number and expiration date is? This would be
quite nifty if the KNFB Reader app could do that. Lately, more and more
companies are asking for the 3 digit code, but each time you receive a new
card in the mail, those 3 security digit code numbers change. I look forward
to hearing from those who have the app regarding this. 

Thanks. 

Best, 
Eileen 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

Donna,
I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100
per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has
lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the
document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had
anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely
got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if
you want it to.
It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm
now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at
the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app
on my phone.
It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts
reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.

Good luck with your decision

Lisette

On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to
purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or
Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the
positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly 
wrote:
> 
>> It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep, I know.
>>> 
>>> Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
>>> 
>>> Gary
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife
 wrote:
 
 $100? Ouch.
 
 
 
 
> On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
> Chris
> 
> Mystic Access
> Where the magic is in learning.
> 733 Delaware Rd 341
> Buffalo, NY 14223
> Phone: (716) 743-8244
> web: www.mysticaccess.com
> 
> Accessible Gadgets mailing list: > > 
> http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysti
> caccess.com
> Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com
> Twitter: MysticAccess
> Twitter: JediKent
> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400 Kevin Mattingly 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apparently the app is $100.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National 
>>> Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for 
>>> access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB 
>>> Reader, a new app for the iPhone and other Apple iOS devices, 
>>> which uses the phone's camera and state-of-the-art optical 
>>> character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant 
>>> access to the contents of print materials. Members of the 
>>> National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading 
>>> Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc.
KNFB Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
>>> 
>>> Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind,
said:
>>> "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for 
>>> forty years in the development of technology that helps blind 
>>> people to acquire access to the various print materials that we 
>>> all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first 
>>> collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading 
>>> Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have 
>>> been interested in the development of better and more portable 
>>> reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, 
>>> menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of 
>>> everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission 
>>> of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the 
>>> phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to 
>>

Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[BobH.]

Mrs tells me the abbyy Finereader app is itself available and free; over 
here at least.

Could be a question of accessibility.  Will have to go look,  but all the 
other helpp may well yet be worth the cost.

Rh.

- Original Message - 
From: "Krister Ekstrom" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App


The interesting thing about all this is that according to the app itself, it 
uses Abbyy Finereaders OCR engine and Textgrabber is actually very fast when 
it comes to recognizing the text, but it's much harder to get a good result.
It makes me wonder how the IPhone app compares to the old Nokia app, which 
didn't impress me much.
/Krister

> 19 sep 2014 kl. 21:41 skrev Ray Foret Jr :
>
> Frankly, I could not agree more!!!  My flat bed scanning days are through: 
> or just about anyhow.  I never got such good results with the other OCR 
> apps.  Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta 
> okay.  The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and 
> accurate.  Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right.  I didn't 
> realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always 
> angling the camra lens much too far upward.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
>
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling  > wrote:
>
>> Donna,
>> I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 
>> 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously 
>> has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute 
>> lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I 
>> never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text 
>> Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader 
>> helps you line it up if you want it to.
>> It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. 
>> I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there 
>> was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the 
>> only OCR app on my phone.
>> It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts 
>> reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.
>>
>> Good luck with your decision
>>
>> Lisette
>>
>> On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>>
>>> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not 
>>> to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either 
>>> textGrabber or Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with 
>>> both those apps is the positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make 
>>> that easier?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly >> > wrote:
>>>
 It just works. I'm glad I bought it.

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  > wrote:
>
> Yep, I know.
>
> Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
>
> Gary
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife 
>> mailto:came...@cameronstrife.com>> wrote:
>>
>> $100? Ouch.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 9/19/14, Chris G >> > wrote:
>>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Mystic Access
>>> Where the magic is in learning.
>>> 733 Delaware Rd 341
>>> Buffalo, NY 14223
>>> Phone: (716) 743-8244
>>> web: www.mysticaccess.com 
>>>
>>> Accessible Gadgets mailing list: > >
>>> http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com
>>> Twitter: MysticAccess
>>> Twitter: JediKent
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
>>> Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>>>
 I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
>
> Apparently the app is $100.
>
> CB
>
> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation 
> of the
> Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the 
> blind,
> has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone 
> and
> other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
> state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to 
> give
> the blind

Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Donna Goodin]

thanks for sharing this, Chris, it was quite informative.  It's definitely 
pricy, but a very slick app.  I'm thinking I might go ahead an pick it up.
Cheers,
Donna
On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Chris G  wrote:

> Hi,
> Here is a well done podcast on the KNFB Reader.
> http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast600.mp3
> 
> Chris
> 
> Mystic Access
> Where the magic is in learning.
> 733 Delaware Rd 341 
> Buffalo, NY 14223 
> Phone: (716) 743-8244
> web: www.mysticaccess.com
> 
> Accessible Gadgets mailing list: > > 
> http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com
> Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com
> Twitter: MysticAccess
> Twitter: JediKent
> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:28:18 -0500
> Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to 
>> purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or 
>> Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the 
>> positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>> 
>>> It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  wrote:
 
 Yep, I know.
 
 Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
 
 Gary
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife  
> wrote:
> 
> $100? Ouch.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>> Chris
>> 
>> Mystic Access
>> Where the magic is in learning.
>> 733 Delaware Rd 341
>> Buffalo, NY 14223
>> Phone: (716) 743-8244
>> web: www.mysticaccess.com
>> 
>> Accessible Gadgets mailing list: > >
>> http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com
>> Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com
>> Twitter: MysticAccess
>> Twitter: JediKent
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
>> Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>> 
>>> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
  wrote:
 
 Apparently the app is $100.
 
 CB
 
 Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of 
 the
 Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind,
 has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
 other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
 state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give
 the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of
 the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
 Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. 
 KNFB
 Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
 
 Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
 said:
 "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years
 in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
 access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to
 day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop 
 the
 Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance,
 we have been interested in the development of better and more portable
 reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus,
 labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday 
 life,
 even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now
 revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us
 carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear
 our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the 
 iPhone's
 built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a
 refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the
 everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information
 we need and live the lives we want."
 
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Re: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?

[Donna Goodin]

Huh, that's strange.  I didn't see it till I upgraded.  Check out my message 
from this morning, hopefully it will help fix the problem for you.
Best,
Donna
On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

> Hi!
> I have this issue allready in ios 7.
> SO i am not sure whats going on.
> /A
> 19 sep 2014 kl. 00:31 skrev Donna Goodin :
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering if anyone knows anything about bugs with the latest iBooks?  
>> I upgraded to IOS 8 last night, and installed the update to iBooks.  Now, I 
>> can see the publisher's blurb for my books when I click on the Purchased 
>> Tab, but that's all I can see.  When I switch to my books, the list is 
>> empty, despite the fact that I have several downloaded.  It doesn't matter 
>> whether I select My Bookshelf, Titles, or Authors, I see nothing.  I had my 
>> sighted husband look at my phone, and he confirmed that the books are not 
>> showing up on the screen at all.  Anyone else had this issue?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Lisette,

Wow, that's impressive.  I think the podcast pretty much sold me, but your 
report was the last straw.  It's great to finally have an app that can give us 
reliable OCR wherever we are.  thanks for sharing your experience.
Best,
Donna
On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> Donna,
> I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 
> per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots 
> of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the 
> document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had 
> anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely 
> got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you 
> want it to.
> It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm 
> now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the 
> time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my 
> phone.
> It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts 
> reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.
> 
> Good luck with your decision
> 
> Lisette
> 
> On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to 
>> purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or 
>> Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the 
>> positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>> 
>>> It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  wrote:
 
 Yep, I know.
 
 Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
 
 Gary
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife  
> wrote:
> 
> $100? Ouch.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>> Chris
>> 
>> Mystic Access
>> Where the magic is in learning.
>> 733 Delaware Rd 341
>> Buffalo, NY 14223
>> Phone: (716) 743-8244
>> web: www.mysticaccess.com
>> 
>> Accessible Gadgets mailing list: > >
>> http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com
>> Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com
>> Twitter: MysticAccess
>> Twitter: JediKent
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
>> Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>> 
>>> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
  wrote:
 
 Apparently the app is $100.
 
 CB
 
 Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of 
 the
 Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind,
 has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
 other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
 state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give
 the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of
 the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
 Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. 
 KNFB
 Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
 
 Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
 said:
 "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years
 in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
 access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to
 day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop 
 the
 Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance,
 we have been interested in the development of better and more portable
 reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus,
 labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday 
 life,
 even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now
 revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us
 carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear
 our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the 
 iPhone's
 built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a
 refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the
 everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information
 we need and live the lives we want."
 
>

Re: synching content from my mac to somone elses idevice

[Lee Jones]

Hi Rob thanks for the advice, I tried searching for itools on macupdate but 
there only results are about apache web servers.  I found a program that looks 
like the right one at something like ittols.cn, but I am wary of downloading 
software from unknown sites.  Is this the one?

Kind Regards Lee.  .  ,
On 19 Sep 2014, at 20:40, Rob  wrote:

> Hi,
> I dont know a lot about iTunes, but it may say that the iPhone is synched 
> with another computer, and all data will be deleted.
> I dont think your friend will like that.
> You can use the app for the mac called iTools.
> It will do just what you need.
> I downloaded it from
> www.macupdate.com
> This is just my 2 cents!
> On 9/19/2014 2:33 PM, Lee Jones wrote:
>> Dear List I need to synch some non drm mp3 files to someone else's idevice.  
>> I know I can sign out of itunes  and sign in with there apple id, but I 
>> don't want to do  this because I don't want to mess up my itunes match and 
>> would like to keep their library separate from mine.  Is it possible to have 
>> two versions of itunes running on the same mac, accessing different itunes 
>> libraries, and signed in with different apple ids and if so how is this 
>> achieved.
>> 
>> Many Thanks Lee
>> 
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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Donna Goodin]

That was amazing!!!  I just downloaded it, and on the second try, I got a 
nearly perfect scan of a page from a novel.  Looking forward to trying it on 
more complex documents, but right now I'd say it's well worth the money.  For 
us, especially, it's an incredibly useful thing to be able to do--and do well-- 
with your phone.
Cheers,
Donna
On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Frankly, I could not agree more!!!  My flat bed scanning days are through:  
> or just about anyhow.  I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. 
>  Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay.  The 
> KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate.  
> Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right.  I didn't realize, until I 
> started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens 
> much too far upward.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
> 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
>> Donna,
>> I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 
>> per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has 
>> lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the 
>> document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had 
>> anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely 
>> got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if 
>> you want it to.
>> It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm 
>> now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at 
>> the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app 
>> on my phone.
>> It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts 
>> reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.
>> 
>> Good luck with your decision
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>> On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to 
>>> purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or 
>>> Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is 
>>> the positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>>> 
 It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  wrote:
> 
> Yep, I know.
> 
> Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
> 
> Gary
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> $100? Ouch.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
>>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> Mystic Access
>>> Where the magic is in learning.
>>> 733 Delaware Rd 341
>>> Buffalo, NY 14223
>>> Phone: (716) 743-8244
>>> web: www.mysticaccess.com
>>> 
>>> Accessible Gadgets mailing list: > >
>>> http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com
>>> Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com
>>> Twitter: MysticAccess
>>> Twitter: JediKent
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
>>> Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>>> 
 I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
> 
> Apparently the app is $100.
> 
> CB
> 
> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of 
> the
> Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind,
> has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
> other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
> state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to 
> give
> the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members 
> of
> the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
> Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. 
> KNFB
> Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
> 
> Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
> said:
> "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty 
> years
> in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
> access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day 
> to
> day. Ev

RE: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Jesus Garcia]

I agree this is by far the most expensive app I have ever purchased for any
of my apple devices. However well worth the price, considering how much I
paid for the original KNFB nosier phone reader and never regretted doing so,
this is amazing. I am certain there are going to be a few areas where I will
want changes, but hey this is the first release. I recommend this software
without any hesitation.  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: September 19, 2014 16:22
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

Hi Lisette,

Wow, that's impressive.  I think the podcast pretty much sold me, but your
report was the last straw.  It's great to finally have an app that can give
us reliable OCR wherever we are.  thanks for sharing your experience.
Best,
Donna
On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
wrote:

> Donna,
> I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got
100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has
lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the
document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had
anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely
got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if
you want it to.
> It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me.
I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was
at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR
app on my phone.
> It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts
reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.
> 
> Good luck with your decision
> 
> Lisette
> 
> On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not
to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber
or Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is
the positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly 
wrote:
>> 
>>> It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  wrote:
 
 Yep, I know.
 
 Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
 
 Gary
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife
 wrote:
> 
> $100? Ouch.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>> Chris
>> 
>> Mystic Access
>> Where the magic is in learning.
>> 733 Delaware Rd 341
>> Buffalo, NY 14223
>> Phone: (716) 743-8244
>> web: www.mysticaccess.com
>> 
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>>
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m
>> Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com
>> Twitter: MysticAccess
>> Twitter: JediKent
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
>> Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>> 
>>> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
  wrote:
 
 Apparently the app is $100.
 
 CB
 
 Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation
of the
 Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the
blind,
 has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone
and
 other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
 state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to
give
 the blind instant access to the contents of print materials.
Members of
 the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
 Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc.
KNFB
 Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
 
 Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind,
said:
 "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty
years
 in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
 access to the various print materials that we all encounter from
day to
 day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to
develop the
 Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household
appliance,
 we have been interested in the development of better and more
portable
 reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters,
menus,
 labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday
life,
 even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. N

family sharing

[Donald Bishop]

Hi all,

I set up family sharing last night and my wife and I are both running ios8.  
She got invited to the family just fine, but am trying to figure out how to see 
her purchases anf for her to see mine.  

Maybe I'm missing something somewhere.
Help would be much appreciated.  

Thanks,
Don


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Re: family sharing

[Joe Quinn]

You go to either the iTunes Store on the App Store on your iPhone, More, and 
then Purchases. And you will see my purchases, and family purchases.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Donald Bishop  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I set up family sharing last night and my wife and I are both running ios8.  
> She got invited to the family just fine, but am trying to figure out how to 
> see her purchases anf for her to see mine.  
> 
> Maybe I'm missing something somewhere.
> Help would be much appreciated.  
> 
> Thanks,
> Don
> 
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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Chris G]

Hi,
I just purchased it for use on my iPad mini with retna.
>From what I have done with it, it works great.  However the main screen
seems to be slow at responding when swiping through.  Note: not blaming
the KNFB Reader as I know it is an iPhone product running on my iPad
mini with retna.

Note, I'm stressing the fact its an iPad mini with retna.


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Where the magic is in learning.
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Buffalo, NY 14223 
Phone: (716) 743-8244
web: www.mysticaccess.com

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Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com
Twitter: MysticAccess
Twitter: JediKent


On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:18:49 -0500
Donna Goodin  wrote:

> thanks for sharing this, Chris, it was quite informative.  It's definitely 
> pricy, but a very slick app.  I'm thinking I might go ahead an pick it up.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Chris G  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > Here is a well done podcast on the KNFB Reader.
> > http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast600.mp3
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > Mystic Access
> > Where the magic is in learning.
> > 733 Delaware Rd 341 
> > Buffalo, NY 14223 
> > Phone: (716) 743-8244
> > web: www.mysticaccess.com
> > 
> > Accessible Gadgets mailing list: > > 
> > http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com
> > Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com
> > Twitter: MysticAccess
> > Twitter: JediKent
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:28:18 -0500
> > Donna Goodin  wrote:
> > 
> >> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to 
> >> purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber 
> >> or Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps 
> >> is the positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Donna
> >> 
> >> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> 
>  On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  wrote:
>  
>  Yep, I know.
>  
>  Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
>  
>  Gary
> > On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > $100? Ouch.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
> >> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
> >> Chris
> >> 
> >> Mystic Access
> >> Where the magic is in learning.
> >> 733 Delaware Rd 341
> >> Buffalo, NY 14223
> >> Phone: (716) 743-8244
> >> web: www.mysticaccess.com
> >> 
> >> Accessible Gadgets mailing list: > >
> >> http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com
> >> Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com
> >> Twitter: MysticAccess
> >> Twitter: JediKent
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
> >> Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> 
>  On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>   wrote:
>  
>  Apparently the app is $100.
>  
>  CB
>  
>  Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of 
>  the
>  Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the 
>  blind,
>  has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone 
>  and
>  other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
>  state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to 
>  give
>  the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members 
>  of
>  the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
>  Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. 
>  KNFB
>  Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
>  
>  Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
>  said:
>  "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty 
>  years
>  in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
>  access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day 
>  to
>  day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop 
>  the
>  Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household 
>  appliance,
>  we have been interested in the development of better and more 
>  portable
>  reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, 
>  menus,
>  labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday 
>  life,
>  even with the increas

Re: IOS8 issue already

[Mark Baxter]

I've got it installed on my iPad 2 32G; my iPhone 5 is defunct in the extreme.  
I see changes to notification center and app switcher, and can record and send 
audio but not video iMessages.  What else should I look for, and what VO 
improvements if any are there?  When I try to upgrade to iCloud Drive, it told 
me that my Macbook Pro would have to be updated to Yosemite.  I didn't even 
know Yosemite is out yet?  Where's the Time Travel button?


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Re: IOS8 issue already

[Alex Hall]

Yosemite isn't out yet, and if you use iCloud storage on your Mac, don't enable 
iCloud Drive just yet. As to features and bugs, check out www.applevis.com for 
all the details.
On Sep 19, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Mark Baxter  wrote:

> I've got it installed on my iPad 2 32G; my iPhone 5 is defunct in the 
> extreme.  I see changes to notification center and app switcher, and can 
> record and send audio but not video iMessages.  What else should I look for, 
> and what VO improvements if any are there?  When I try to upgrade to iCloud 
> Drive, it told me that my Macbook Pro would have to be updated to Yosemite.  
> I didn't even know Yosemite is out yet?  Where's the Time Travel button?
> 
> 
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> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Re: IOS8 issue already

[Mark Baxter]

Only "Bug," I have found so far is that I can't find the "record video," button 
on iMessages, even though it says there should be one. :)  More like a mite 
than a bug.


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Re: IOS8 issue already

[Alex Hall]

Double tap and hold on the "attach media" button. Wait for the alert to appear, 
or, some say, you can slide your finger right while holding down to start 
recording. I haven't figured it all out fully yet,but that will get you started.
On Sep 19, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Mark Baxter  wrote:

> Only "Bug," I have found so far is that I can't find the "record video," 
> button on iMessages, even though it says there should be one. :)  More like a 
> mite than a bug.
> 
> 
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Re: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Donna. I am really interested in this, as I have a whole lot of iBooks 
on my iPad, and I have heard that it is much better on Yosemite then it is on 
Mavericks. So I was looking forward to trying out some books when Yosemite 
comes out. However, if it means my iPad is going to get messed up, I will pass.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I'm still kind of confused about this, but that would seem to be the case.  I 
> just got off the phone with tech support again, and the first thing he had me 
> do was re-download everything onto my computer.  I'll do some further 
> experimenting, and let you know what I find.
> Best,
> Donna
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna and others,
>> I would like clarification on something. Donna, when you said that you lost 
>> your books and Apple say I have a book on my Mac and the same book on my 
>> iPad. I decide I don't want the book on my Mac, so I take it off the Mac. 
>> Does that mean it goes away from the iPad to? Thank you for clarification.
>> Mary
>> told you that they were gone for good unless Apple put them back, how does 
>> that relate to the following scenario?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you have an update, I'm not sure I would install it if I were you, 
>>> that's when my problems started.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:55 AM, wayne17a  wrote:
 
 Hi that is strange I updated yesterday and have had no problems with I 
 books
 but will look to see if there is a update for ibooks
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:32 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if anyone knows anything about bugs with the latest iBooks?
 I upgraded to IOS 8 last night, and installed the update to iBooks.  Now, I
 can see the publisher's blurb for my books when I click on the Purchased
 Tab, but that's all I can see.  When I switch to my books, the list is
 empty, despite the fact that I have several downloaded.  It doesn't matter
 whether I select My Bookshelf, Titles, or Authors, I see nothing.  I had my
 sighted husband look at my phone, and he confirmed that the books are not
 showing up on the screen at all.  Anyone else had this issue?
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 Donna
 
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Re: synching content from my mac to somone elses idevice

[Rob]

here is my Dropbox link
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7b540o2fexmim9n/iTools.app.zip?dl=0
I have transfered music to and from my iPhone, but have not tried other 
features.


On 9/19/2014 3:49 PM, Lee Jones wrote:

Hi Rob thanks for the advice, I tried searching for itools on macupdate but 
there only results are about apache web servers.  I found a program that looks 
like the right one at something like ittols.cn, but I am wary of downloading 
software from unknown sites.  Is this the one?

Kind Regards Lee.  .  ,
On 19 Sep 2014, at 20:40, Rob  wrote:


Hi,
I dont know a lot about iTunes, but it may say that the iPhone is synched with 
another computer, and all data will be deleted.
I dont think your friend will like that.
You can use the app for the mac called iTools.
It will do just what you need.
I downloaded it from
www.macupdate.com
This is just my 2 cents!
On 9/19/2014 2:33 PM, Lee Jones wrote:

Dear List I need to synch some non drm mp3 files to someone else's idevice.  I 
know I can sign out of itunes  and sign in with there apple id, but I don't 
want to do  this because I don't want to mess up my itunes match and would like 
to keep their library separate from mine.  Is it possible to have two versions 
of itunes running on the same mac, accessing different itunes libraries, and 
signed in with different apple ids and if so how is this achieved.

Many Thanks Lee


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Re: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Mary,

I'm not sure what messed up my library.  I'm assuming it was the upgrade to IOS 
8, but Wayne said he saw these issues in IOS 7.  So, long and short, I wouldn't 
shy away from Yosemite.  What I went through was enormously frustrating, but I 
did finally get my books back.  Also, as you have no doubt seen, there are 
others who have not experienced this issue.
Cheers,
Donna
On Sep 19, 2014, at 7:05 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Thanks, Donna. I am really interested in this, as I have a whole lot of 
> iBooks on my iPad, and I have heard that it is much better on Yosemite then 
> it is on Mavericks. So I was looking forward to trying out some books when 
> Yosemite comes out. However, if it means my iPad is going to get messed up, I 
> will pass.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I'm still kind of confused about this, but that would seem to be the case.  
>> I just got off the phone with tech support again, and the first thing he had 
>> me do was re-download everything onto my computer.  I'll do some further 
>> experimenting, and let you know what I find.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna and others,
>>> I would like clarification on something. Donna, when you said that you lost 
>>> your books and Apple say I have a book on my Mac and the same book on my 
>>> iPad. I decide I don't want the book on my Mac, so I take it off the Mac. 
>>> Does that mean it goes away from the iPad to? Thank you for clarification.
>>> Mary
>>> told you that they were gone for good unless Apple put them back, how does 
>>> that relate to the following scenario?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 If you have an update, I'm not sure I would install it if I were you, 
 that's when my problems started.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:55 AM, wayne17a  wrote:
> 
> Hi that is strange I updated yesterday and have had no problems with I 
> books
> but will look to see if there is a update for ibooks
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:32 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering if anyone knows anything about bugs with the latest iBooks?
> I upgraded to IOS 8 last night, and installed the update to iBooks.  Now, 
> I
> can see the publisher's blurb for my books when I click on the Purchased
> Tab, but that's all I can see.  When I switch to my books, the list is
> empty, despite the fact that I have several downloaded.  It doesn't matter
> whether I select My Bookshelf, Titles, or Authors, I see nothing.  I had 
> my
> sighted husband look at my phone, and he confirmed that the books are not
> showing up on the screen at all.  Anyone else had this issue?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: To Mary, more on relation between computer and i-device in iBooks

[Mary Otten]

Thank you for that information, Donna. I am not going to upgrade to I OS 8 
anytime soon, at least not until there is an update that fixes some of the 
bugs. But it is good to know that when Yosemite comes, I will be able to try 
iBooks on the Mac without adversely affecting other devices.
Mary


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> On Sep 19, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary and all,
> 
> Well, I just deleted a book from my Mac, and that did not remove it from my 
> phone, so I guess that you can have a book on one and not the other.  Now I'm 
> wondering why the tech support people were so obsessed with re-downloading 
> the books onto my Mac.  Weird.
> Donna
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Re: Voiceover settings

[The Believer]

Alex and Rachel,
   To Alex. You probably have your speech rate set higher than normal 
human speech so you might not know when system related events is 
announced. I have to slow it down so when I hear the system speech, 
sometimes its hard to unbderstand.


   So per Rachel's suggestion, I went into system prefs, dictation and 
speech, and changed system voice to Samantha (I am using Alex as the 
normal voice). So far she is not speaking to me. She certainly is not at 
login.


From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/18/2014 7:35 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

Can you give us an example of when this happens? I've never heard of this, 
except at the login screen or during a system update.
On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:25 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:


Hi,

This sounds like you're hearing the system voice that's speaking other  
information.
You can change the rate of this by going into system preferences>dictation and 
speech>text to speech tab, and in there you'll find adjustments of the system 
voice, as well as the rate.
Rachel.
On 9/18/2014 6:03 PM, The Believer wrote:

The other day I had some questions, none of which got answered, so will tackle 
them singly.

   Voiceover is set to my liking except when system related information is 
spoken. It sounds like its using default VO settings. Is there another place 
where I can change this?

 From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
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ftp client

[Jean]

Hello:
What are people using for ftp?  I know there was some discussion about a 
program called transfer but I am unable to find it in the app store.
All help appreciated,
Jean

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Re: ftp client

[Daniel]

Transmit on Mac is good. Accessible enough.

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Re: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Donna, 
Have you tried going into the app swicher, closing iBooks with a 3 finger swipe 
up, pressing home to get back to the home screen, then opening iBooks again? I 
was having similar problems with the app store here and doing the above fixed 
the problem. 



DougSent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Huh, that's strange.  I didn't see it till I upgraded.  Check out my message 
> from this morning, hopefully it will help fix the problem for you.
> Best,
> Donna
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I have this issue allready in ios 7.
>> SO i am not sure whats going on.
>> /A
>>> 19 sep 2014 kl. 00:31 skrev Donna Goodin :
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if anyone knows anything about bugs with the latest iBooks?  
>>> I upgraded to IOS 8 last night, and installed the update to iBooks.  Now, I 
>>> can see the publisher's blurb for my books when I click on the Purchased 
>>> Tab, but that's all I can see.  When I switch to my books, the list is 
>>> empty, despite the fact that I have several downloaded.  It doesn't matter 
>>> whether I select My Bookshelf, Titles, or Authors, I see nothing.  I had my 
>>> sighted husband look at my phone, and he confirmed that the books are not 
>>> showing up on the screen at all.  Anyone else had this issue?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Can't Connect to iPhone Via Blutooth

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi guys. Since Bill and Hank started a thread on how to make calls using the 
Mac, I'm having a problem. I'm using iOS8 and the Yosemite beta, so 
everything's in place. I had this working last night just fine, I was making 
calls and everything. But just now I found out that the Mac isn't connected to 
BluTooth, and when I try to connect, it reports that the network is 
unavailable, which it isn't because BluTooth is on on my iPhone. So I tried 
rebooting my Mac, still nothing. So I went to system preferences on the Mac and 
the BluTooth setting on my iPhone and I told both devices to forget one 
another. I successfully paired them back again, but when I tell my iPhone to 
connect to my Mac, I get a message saying that it's not supported and my only 
option is to forget the device. So yeah, I'm a little PO'd and I could use any 
advice you guys could offer.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[peter Apgar]

Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop 
scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant 
scored the entire menu perfectly

Pete

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> On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Frankly, I could not agree more!!!  My flat bed scanning days are through:  
> or just about anyhow.  I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. 
>  Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay.  The 
> KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate.  
> Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right.  I didn't realize, until I 
> started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens 
> much too far upward.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Donna,
>> I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 
>> per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has 
>> lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the 
>> document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had 
>> anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely 
>> got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if 
>> you want it to.
>> It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm 
>> now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at 
>> the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app 
>> on my phone.
>> It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts 
>> reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.
>> 
>> Good luck with your decision
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>>> On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to 
>>> purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or 
>>> Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is 
>>> the positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly  
 wrote:
 
 It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  wrote:
> 
> Yep, I know.
> 
> Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
> 
> Gary
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> $100? Ouch.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
>>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> Mystic Access
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
>>> Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>>> 
 I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
> 
> Apparently the app is $100.
> 
> CB
> 
> Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of 
> the
> Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind,
> has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
> other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
> state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to 
> give
> the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members 
> of
> the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
> Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. 
> KNFB
> Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
> 
> Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
> said:
> "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty 
> years
> in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
> access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day 
> to
> day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop 
> the
> Kurzweil Reading Machine