Re: Update Urgent help with BootCamp needed

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Windows 7 allows you to bypass the product key during installation so 
you can use it in a sort of trial mode for 30 days.


On 01/08/2014 07:54, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

why that on the tutorial on the apple vis he dont insert the serial key, 
instead he just accepted it?
On 01 Aug 2014, at 08:29 am, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:


The problem is it asks for a product key and you cannot move forward until you 
enter a valid one.

On 01/08/2014 06:33, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

just to add anotherproblem on this, i am also now installing windows 8.1 on my 
mac. i downloaded the iso file on the internet, but when trying to install the 
windows, i use the bootcamp and it never goes on after you select the 
languages, what would be the problem?
On 01 Aug 2014, at 02:39 am, Rob  wrote:


Dear List,
I solved the problem of BootCamp not creating a partition & asking for the 
windows 7 install disk.
I downloaded a windows 7 ISo and put it in my DVD drive. that allowed BootCamp  
to continue to create the partition.
the mac rebooted before I could eject the win7 install disk. so it loaded the 
install disk and the only way I could eject it was to restart the mac and hold 
the option key at the mac startup sound. I then could eject the disk and insert 
the win 7 PE talking install disk.once I restarted the mac NVDA came up talking 
and I was able to install windows 7.
My $10 external Sabrent sound card from WalMart worked great.
Now I have another problem,
I got an error when trying to install the BootCamp drivers on windows 7.
it said BootCamp x64 not compatible with this computer.
I may not be wording it exactly, but it was simmular.
any ideas?
so for now, I am using the external sound card. so far, everything else seems 
OK.

Previous Message

Hi,
I listen to the Podcast by Armondo, but My version of BootCamp is completely 
different.
When I started the bootcamp assistant, I had  two choices, 1. download the 
bootcamp win7 drivers
and
2. install win7.
Armondo had three choices I have only 2.
BootCamp  is telling me it cant detect my win7 Disk, insert it and press OK.
My win7 PE mega disk  talking installer is in the
CD drive. it did not get to the point where it should have asked me to devide 
the portitions evenly.
so because I dont have the win7 ISO in the drive, I cant get any further.
I'm using Maveriks 10.94 on a 2009 MacBook.

Thanks,
Rob
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206-426-3505
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Re: Update Urgent help with BootCamp needed

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

ok so how do i delete all the windows files on my drive? i cant seem to delete 
the windows installer on disk utility?
On 01 Aug 2014, at 09:05 am, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:

> Windows 7 allows you to bypass the product key during installation so you can 
> use it in a sort of trial mode for 30 days.
> 
> On 01/08/2014 07:54, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:
>> why that on the tutorial on the apple vis he dont insert the serial key, 
>> instead he just accepted it?
>> On 01 Aug 2014, at 08:29 am, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> The problem is it asks for a product key and you cannot move forward until 
>>> you enter a valid one.
>>> 
>>> On 01/08/2014 06:33, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:
 just to add anotherproblem on this, i am also now installing windows 8.1 
 on my mac. i downloaded the iso file on the internet, but when trying to 
 install the windows, i use the bootcamp and it never goes on after you 
 select the languages, what would be the problem?
 On 01 Aug 2014, at 02:39 am, Rob  wrote:
 
> Dear List,
> I solved the problem of BootCamp not creating a partition & asking for 
> the windows 7 install disk.
> I downloaded a windows 7 ISo and put it in my DVD drive. that allowed 
> BootCamp  to continue to create the partition.
> the mac rebooted before I could eject the win7 install disk. so it loaded 
> the install disk and the only way I could eject it was to restart the mac 
> and hold the option key at the mac startup sound. I then could eject the 
> disk and insert the win 7 PE talking install disk.once I restarted the 
> mac NVDA came up talking and I was able to install windows 7.
> My $10 external Sabrent sound card from WalMart worked great.
> Now I have another problem,
> I got an error when trying to install the BootCamp drivers on windows 7.
> it said BootCamp x64 not compatible with this computer.
> I may not be wording it exactly, but it was simmular.
> any ideas?
> so for now, I am using the external sound card. so far, everything else 
> seems OK.
> 
> Previous Message
> 
> Hi,
> I listen to the Podcast by Armondo, but My version of BootCamp is 
> completely different.
> When I started the bootcamp assistant, I had  two choices, 1. download 
> the bootcamp win7 drivers
> and
> 2. install win7.
> Armondo had three choices I have only 2.
> BootCamp  is telling me it cant detect my win7 Disk, insert it and press 
> OK.
> My win7 PE mega disk  talking installer is in the
> CD drive. it did not get to the point where it should have asked me to 
> devide the portitions evenly.
> so because I dont have the win7 ISO in the drive, I cant get any further.
> I'm using Maveriks 10.94 on a 2009 MacBook.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob
> You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
> 206-426-3505
> "God is good all the time, & All the time God is good"
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brlty was:Re: using voiceover in terminal?

[Anouk Radix]

Hi, I am interested in trying brlty in the terminal, i guess i would have to 
assign the thumbkeys of my display somehow, has anyone successfully tried brlty 
in the mac terminal?
Greetings, Anouk,
On 19 Jul 2014, at 23:32, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

> Hi!
> If you have a braille display you could install brltty.
> Though i tried that but had no luck since i couldn't do any make commands.
> /A
> 17 jul 2014 kl. 18:28 skrev Brandon A. Olivares :
> 
>> I've used vim. It is not perfect either, but it is quite usable.
>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> I can't say, I've only ever issued commands. I have never used Nano, Pico, 
>>> Emacs, or any other command line programs, except FTP, which works as 
>>> expected. Even that, though, is command-based and is no kind of text editor 
>>> or other interactive program.
>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Justin Mann  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Alex,
 
 So do the same things apply to using things like nano in terminal?
 On Jul 17, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> First, be sure to interact with the text input area. Then, use vo-up and 
> vo-down to review output, and regular up and down to navigate commands. 
> It isn't perfect, but interacting makes it a lot better.
> On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
> 
>> I would like to know the the same thing as well. I find when you are 
>> using the terminal output from commands sometimes does not get spoken. 
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Justin Mann  wrote:
>>> 
>>> HI all,
>>> 
>>> Are there any particular settings that you should use with voiceover so 
>>> that working in terminal is more practical?  I need to work with the 
>>> command line, change some settings in some text files in my raspberry 
>>> Pi, so any help you can give would be appreciated,
>>> Thanks,
>>> Justin
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Re: brlty was:Re: using voiceover in terminal?

[Jason White]

Anouk Radix  wrote:
> Hi, I am interested in trying brlty in the terminal, i guess i would have to 
> assign the thumbkeys of my display somehow, has anyone successfully tried 
> brlty in the mac terminal?

I know from the BRLTTY list that it has been done. I understand that it's
still awkward: you have to patch GNU Screen to do it - far from ideal.

I'm hoping to use VoiceOver to run my braille display in the terminal, but I
haven't tried it yet - I'm using the braille display on another machine at the
moment, which has BRLTTY installed and runs Linux.

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Re: brlty was:Re: using voiceover in terminal?

[Anouk Radix]

Hi, I am not THAT good with the command prompt but was hoping that brlty might 
give a better terminal experience then voicover when just using braille.
Please let me know (and perhaps others are interested as well) how things go if 
you try it!
Thnx
Greetings, Anouk,
On 01 Aug 2014, at 11:20, Jason White  wrote:

> Anouk Radix  wrote:
>> Hi, I am interested in trying brlty in the terminal, i guess i would have to 
>> assign the thumbkeys of my display somehow, has anyone successfully tried 
>> brlty in the mac terminal?
> 
> I know from the BRLTTY list that it has been done. I understand that it's
> still awkward: you have to patch GNU Screen to do it - far from ideal.
> 
> I'm hoping to use VoiceOver to run my braille display in the terminal, but I
> haven't tried it yet - I'm using the braille display on another machine at the
> moment, which has BRLTTY installed and runs Linux.
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Re: Screencasting on the Mac?

[Justin Mann]

Once you get the file created, you will want to shrink it down to size in the 
file/export menu so that it is manageable.  If possible choose the option for 
iOS/Apple Tv.
On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:26 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Well, thanks, that seems to have worked. I never would have guessed at those 
> steps, but I finally have the recording Apple wanted. At least, I hope I do; 
> the audio is good, but I have no idea if it captured the screen correctly. By 
> default, does it record the whole screen, or just the active window, do you 
> know? I'll have a sighted person review it before I upload it, but I'm 
> curious.
> On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:14 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> Try it this way.
>> 
>> 1.  Go into QuickTime.
>> 2.  Press cmd-ctrl-n to open the new ScreenRecorder window.
>> 3.  VO-space on the Start button.
>> 
>> The stupid window comes up that doesn't seem to have anything VO useful
>> 
>> 4.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to bring mouse focus to the VO focus.
>> 5.  Physically click your mouse or trackpad.
>> 
>> This will start the recording.  I don't think you actually need to do step 
>> #4 but I just make sure that the mouse won't click out of the window by 
>> bringing it to the current VO focused spot.
>> 
>> 6.  Press Escape or cmd-period.
>> 
>> There will be a window with the Stop button and a little clock timer thing 
>> counting up how long it's been recording as well as the current size of the 
>> file.
>> 
>> 7.  cmd-tab out of QuickTime and do whatever you wished recorded and then 
>> cmd-tab back into QuickTime when done.
>> 8.  VO-space on the Stop button.
>> 
>> The regular QuickTime window will appear now with the Play/Pause button.  
>> Press VO-space on it to start or stop.  This is totally visual so there's 
>> nothing much to do from a VO prospective except possibly look at the elapse 
>> time.
>> 
>> 9.  Save your file and send it off.
>> 10.  Tell the Apple engineers to fix that window so that it is more VO 
>> friendly.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm using Quicktime to do a screencast of a problem in a beta - Apple wants 
>>> to see what's visually going on so they can track down the issue. However, 
>>> I cannot get Quicktime to start or stop on command, and the "stop 
>>> recording" item in the Extras menus doesn't work well either. Even the 
>>> start button in Quicktime doesn't seem to always work, yet once you hit it 
>>> you have no controls until you can activate the control in the Extras menu. 
>>> Basically, I can't get Quicktime to reliably start or stop recording, so 
>>> I've done the demo three times now and not once have I managed to actually 
>>> record it. Yet two test recordings have gone, not fine, but I at least got 
>>> a result. Is there something in Quicktime that will make this easier, or do 
>>> people have alternative screen casting apps they prefer? Again, this has to 
>>> record the Mac's screen as well as audio, not just the audio, and output a 
>>> commonly supported movie format. Any thoughts?
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Re: Update Urgent help with BootCamp needed

[Christopher Hallsworth]

You don't. Use the Bootcamp Assistant to remove the Bootcamp Partition. 
Doing it this way ensures the partitions are cleanly reversed.


On 01/08/2014 08:08, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

ok so how do i delete all the windows files on my drive? i cant seem to delete 
the windows installer on disk utility?
On 01 Aug 2014, at 09:05 am, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:


Windows 7 allows you to bypass the product key during installation so you can 
use it in a sort of trial mode for 30 days.

On 01/08/2014 07:54, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

why that on the tutorial on the apple vis he dont insert the serial key, 
instead he just accepted it?
On 01 Aug 2014, at 08:29 am, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:


The problem is it asks for a product key and you cannot move forward until you 
enter a valid one.

On 01/08/2014 06:33, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

just to add anotherproblem on this, i am also now installing windows 8.1 on my 
mac. i downloaded the iso file on the internet, but when trying to install the 
windows, i use the bootcamp and it never goes on after you select the 
languages, what would be the problem?
On 01 Aug 2014, at 02:39 am, Rob  wrote:


Dear List,
I solved the problem of BootCamp not creating a partition & asking for the 
windows 7 install disk.
I downloaded a windows 7 ISo and put it in my DVD drive. that allowed BootCamp  
to continue to create the partition.
the mac rebooted before I could eject the win7 install disk. so it loaded the 
install disk and the only way I could eject it was to restart the mac and hold 
the option key at the mac startup sound. I then could eject the disk and insert 
the win 7 PE talking install disk.once I restarted the mac NVDA came up talking 
and I was able to install windows 7.
My $10 external Sabrent sound card from WalMart worked great.
Now I have another problem,
I got an error when trying to install the BootCamp drivers on windows 7.
it said BootCamp x64 not compatible with this computer.
I may not be wording it exactly, but it was simmular.
any ideas?
so for now, I am using the external sound card. so far, everything else seems 
OK.

Previous Message

Hi,
I listen to the Podcast by Armondo, but My version of BootCamp is completely 
different.
When I started the bootcamp assistant, I had  two choices, 1. download the 
bootcamp win7 drivers
and
2. install win7.
Armondo had three choices I have only 2.
BootCamp  is telling me it cant detect my win7 Disk, insert it and press OK.
My win7 PE mega disk  talking installer is in the
CD drive. it did not get to the point where it should have asked me to devide 
the portitions evenly.
so because I dont have the win7 ISO in the drive, I cant get any further.
I'm using Maveriks 10.94 on a 2009 MacBook.

Thanks,
Rob
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206-426-3505
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Re: brlty was:Re: using voiceover in terminal?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I gave the brltty on the mac up for a while and uses ssh from my linux system 
instead.
/A
1 aug 2014 kl. 11:20 skrev Jason White :

> Anouk Radix  wrote:
>> Hi, I am interested in trying brlty in the terminal, i guess i would have to 
>> assign the thumbkeys of my display somehow, has anyone successfully tried 
>> brlty in the mac terminal?
> 
> I know from the BRLTTY list that it has been done. I understand that it's
> still awkward: you have to patch GNU Screen to do it - far from ideal.
> 
> I'm hoping to use VoiceOver to run my braille display in the terminal, but I
> haven't tried it yet - I'm using the braille display on another machine at the
> moment, which has BRLTTY installed and runs Linux.
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Re: Update Urgent help with BootCamp needed

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Diane,

The last thread was correct that you need to bring up bootcamp assistant if you 
want to remove your copy of Windows off your computer or change the partition 
back to one single one. When I was going through this tedious process myself, I 
totally wiped my USB flash card clean and started over fresh before installing. 
At this point, I'm not sure if you have a physical disk or just an ISO. I had 
both, but my copy of Windows was Win 8.0. I thought I remembered that you said 
you have a key. Is that correct? There's something funky (to me) about the 
Microsoft disks because when I needed to call MS, they stated to me that they 
knew about this problem and if I wanted to give them 80 bucks they could fix 
it. In another call to MS, they wouldn't help because Win 8 was not installed 
on the computer. Oh by the way for Ron, did you make sure that you had the 
latest bootcamp drivers for your Mac? For what it's worth, my troubles occurred 
on a MBA 2013, running Mountain Lion. My friend who had no issues installing 
Win 8.1 was running Mavericks. That was the only difference when comparing the 
installation. Once you get over the hump of the installation, you will be happy 
you are using Windows in bootcamp. It's definitely the fastest PC I have ever 
owned. Keep the list posted on the progress of this.

Best,
Eileen Hi Diane,

The last thread was correct that you need to bring up bootcamp assistant if you 
want to remove your copy of Windows off your computer or change the partition 
back to one single one. When I was going through this tedious process myself, I 
totally wiped my USB flash card clean and started over fresh before installing. 
At this point, I'm not sure if you have a physical disk or just an ISO. I had 
both, but my copy of Windows was Win 8.0. I thought I remembered that you said 
you have a key. Is that correct? There's something funky (to me) about the 
Microsoft disks because when I needed to call MS, they stated to me that they 
knew about this problem and if I wanted to give them 80 bucks they could fix 
it. In another call to MS, they wouldn't help because Win 8 was not installed 
on the computer. Oh by the way for Ron, did you make sure that you had the 
latest bootcamp drivers for your Mac? For what it's worth, my troubles occurred 
on a MBA 2013, running Mountain Lion. My friend who had no issues installing 
Win 8.1 was running Mavericks. That was the only difference when comparing the 
installation. Once you get over the hump of the installation, you will be happy 
you are using Windows in bootcamp. It's definitely the fastest PC I have ever 
owned. Keep the list posted on the progress of this.

Best,
Eileen Hi Diane,

The last thread was correct that you need to bring up bootcamp assistant if you 
want to remove your copy of Windows off your computer or change the partition 
back to one single one. When I was going through this tedious process myself, I 
totally wiped my USB flash card clean and started over fresh before installing. 
At this point, I'm not sure if you have a physical disk or just an ISO. I had 
both, but my copy of Windows was Win 8.0. I thought I remembered that you said 
you have a key. Is that correct? There's something funky (to me) about the 
Microsoft disks because when I needed to call MS, they stated to me that they 
knew about this problem and if I wanted to give them 80 bucks they could fix 
it. In another call to MS, they wouldn't help because Win 8 was not installed 
on the computer. Oh by the way for Ron, did you make sure that you had the 
latest bootcamp drivers for your Mac? For what it's worth, my troubles occurred 
on a MBA 2013, running Mountain Lion. My friend who had no issues installing 
Win 8.1 was running Mavericks. That was the only difference when comparing the 
installation. Once you get over the hump of the installation, you will be happy 
you are using Windows in bootcamp. It's definitely the fastest PC I have ever 
owned. Keep the list posted on the progress of this.

Best,
Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
> why that on the tutorial on the apple vis he dont insert the serial key, 
> instead he just accepted it?
>> On 01 Aug 2014, at 08:29 am, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The problem is it asks for a product key and you cannot move forward until 
>> you enter a valid one.
>> 
>>> On 01/08/2014 06:33, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:
>>> just to add anotherproblem on this, i am also now installing windows 8.1 on 
>>> my mac. i downloaded the iso file on the internet, but when trying to 
>>> install the windows, i use the bootcamp and it never goes on after you 
>>> select the languages, what would be the problem?
 On 01 Aug 2014, at 02:39 am, Rob  wrote:
 
 Dear List,
 I solved the problem of BootCamp not creating a partition & asking for the 
 windows 7 install disk.
 I downloaded a windows 7 ISo and put it in my DVD drive

just testing to make sure I can reach the list

[Scott Shade]

Hello all. Just making sure this will reach the list.  I recently started
playing around with a mac and hope this list will be a great wealth of
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Re: just testing to make sure I can reach the list

[Alex Hall]

We got it, and welcome to the list. In case you don't know about it, there's a 
page specifically for VoiceOver users new to the Mac that you might find 
helpful:
http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac
On Aug 1, 2014, at 8:36 AM, Scott Shade  wrote:

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Re: just testing to make sure I can reach the list

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Thanks, I'll bookmark it. Every little bit helps.

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Re: Screencasting on the Mac?

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

After you start recording it says "Click to record the full screen. Drag 
to record part of the screeen. End recording by clicking the stop button 
in the menu bar."


Yes, it records the whole screen so the video file can be pretty big 
depending on what resolution you are running at and how you compress it 
afterwards.


It won't start recording until you physically click. No VO mouse clicks 
seem to make this go. You don't have to click anywhere in particular. 
The click won't action anything and you'll be left in the QTPlayer app 
so you'll have to command-tab to whatever actual app you wanted to 
interact with for the recording.


A slight variant to what Tim said is you can wait until you've done 
whatever you want recorded then command-tab back to QuickTime Player and 
hit escape. That will pop the controller window up and move VO to the 
stop button. Then you just VO-space to stop the recording.


CB

On 8/1/14, 1:57 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Sorry, I'm not sure.  I'm pretty sure it does the entire screen though 
as only doing the active window would be counter-productive.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 31, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Alex Hall > wrote:


Well, thanks, that seems to have worked. I never would have guessed 
at those steps, but I finally have the recording Apple wanted. At 
least, I hope I do; the audio is good, but I have no idea if it 
captured the screen correctly. By default, does it record the whole 
screen, or just the active window, do you know? I'll have a sighted 
person review it before I upload it, but I'm curious.
On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:14 PM, Tim Kilburn > wrote:



Hi Alex,

Try it this way.

1.  Go into QuickTime.
2.  Press cmd-ctrl-n to open the new ScreenRecorder window.
3.  VO-space on the Start button.

The stupid window comes up that doesn't seem to have anything VO useful

4.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to bring mouse focus to the VO focus.
5.  Physically click your mouse or trackpad.

This will start the recording.  I don't think you actually need to 
do step #4 but I just make sure that the mouse won't click out of 
the window by bringing it to the current VO focused spot.


6.  Press Escape or cmd-period.

There will be a window with the Stop button and a little clock timer 
thing counting up how long it's been recording as well as the 
current size of the file.


7.  cmd-tab out of QuickTime and do whatever you wished recorded and 
then cmd-tab back into QuickTime when done.

8.  VO-space on the Stop button.

The regular QuickTime window will appear now with the Play/Pause 
button.  Press VO-space on it to start or stop.  This is totally 
visual so there's nothing much to do from a VO prospective except 
possibly look at the elapse time.


9.  Save your file and send it off.
10.  Tell the Apple engineers to fix that window so that it is more 
VO friendly.


HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 31, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Alex Hall > wrote:



Hi all,
I'm using Quicktime to do a screencast of a problem in a beta - 
Apple wants to see what's visually going on so they can track down 
the issue. However, I cannot get Quicktime to start or stop on 
command, and the "stop recording" item in the Extras menus doesn't 
work well either. Even the start button in Quicktime doesn't seem 
to always work, yet once you hit it you have no controls until you 
can activate the control in the Extras menu. Basically, I can't get 
Quicktime to reliably start or stop recording, so I've done the 
demo three times now and not once have I managed to actually record 
it. Yet two test recordings have gone, not fine, but I at least got 
a result. Is there something in Quicktime that will make this 
easier, or do people have alternative screen casting apps they 
prefer? Again, this has to record the Mac's screen as well as 
audio, not just the audio, and output a commonly supported movie 
format. Any thoughts?

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RE: Mac Mini and carry on baggage?

[wayne17a]

Yes there are electronic sniffers these days and they have dogs 
trained to sniff out all sorts of things including explosives even food in bags

 

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Yes.  If it blows up, it's not a battery.

 

 

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Hello,

Can a scan detect the difference between a battery and explosives?

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Re: Update Urgent help with BootCamp needed

[Dionipher Herrera]

i don't have the key, i only have the iso file. so how can i buy a serial 
number for a windows 8.1 just in case i want it to my mac. i am running os 10.9 
mavericks and i think i do have the latest bootcamp assistant because i just 
bought my computer last december.
> On 01 Aug 2014, at 14:30, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Diane,
> 
> The last thread was correct that you need to bring up bootcamp assistant if 
> you want to remove your copy of Windows off your computer or change the 
> partition back to one single one. When I was going through this tedious 
> process myself, I totally wiped my USB flash card clean and started over 
> fresh before installing. At this point, I'm not sure if you have a physical 
> disk or just an ISO. I had both, but my copy of Windows was Win 8.0. I 
> thought I remembered that you said you have a key. Is that correct? There's 
> something funky (to me) about the Microsoft disks because when I needed to 
> call MS, they stated to me that they knew about this problem and if I wanted 
> to give them 80 bucks they could fix it. In another call to MS, they wouldn't 
> help because Win 8 was not installed on the computer. Oh by the way for Ron, 
> did you make sure that you had the latest bootcamp drivers for your Mac? For 
> what it's worth, my troubles occurred on a MBA 2013, running Mountain Lion. 
> My friend who had no issues installing Win 8.1 was running Mavericks. That 
> was the only difference when comparing the installation. Once you get over 
> the hump of the installation, you will be happy you are using Windows in 
> bootcamp. It's definitely the fastest PC I have ever owned. Keep the list 
> posted on the progress of this.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen Hi Diane,
> 
> The last thread was correct that you need to bring up bootcamp assistant if 
> you want to remove your copy of Windows off your computer or change the 
> partition back to one single one. When I was going through this tedious 
> process myself, I totally wiped my USB flash card clean and started over 
> fresh before installing. At this point, I'm not sure if you have a physical 
> disk or just an ISO. I had both, but my copy of Windows was Win 8.0. I 
> thought I remembered that you said you have a key. Is that correct? There's 
> something funky (to me) about the Microsoft disks because when I needed to 
> call MS, they stated to me that they knew about this problem and if I wanted 
> to give them 80 bucks they could fix it. In another call to MS, they wouldn't 
> help because Win 8 was not installed on the computer. Oh by the way for Ron, 
> did you make sure that you had the latest bootcamp drivers for your Mac? For 
> what it's worth, my troubles occurred on a MBA 2013, running Mountain Lion. 
> My friend who had no issues installing Win 8.1 was running Mavericks. That 
> was the only difference when comparing the installation. Once you get over 
> the hump of the installation, you will be happy you are using Windows in 
> bootcamp. It's definitely the fastest PC I have ever owned. Keep the list 
> posted on the progress of this.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen Hi Diane,
> 
> The last thread was correct that you need to bring up bootcamp assistant if 
> you want to remove your copy of Windows off your computer or change the 
> partition back to one single one. When I was going through this tedious 
> process myself, I totally wiped my USB flash card clean and started over 
> fresh before installing. At this point, I'm not sure if you have a physical 
> disk or just an ISO. I had both, but my copy of Windows was Win 8.0. I 
> thought I remembered that you said you have a key. Is that correct? There's 
> something funky (to me) about the Microsoft disks because when I needed to 
> call MS, they stated to me that they knew about this problem and if I wanted 
> to give them 80 bucks they could fix it. In another call to MS, they wouldn't 
> help because Win 8 was not installed on the computer. Oh by the way for Ron, 
> did you make sure that you had the latest bootcamp drivers for your Mac? For 
> what it's worth, my troubles occurred on a MBA 2013, running Mountain Lion. 
> My friend who had no issues installing Win 8.1 was running Mavericks. That 
> was the only difference when comparing the installation. Once you get over 
> the hump of the installation, you will be happy you are using Windows in 
> bootcamp. It's definitely the fastest PC I have ever owned. Keep the list 
> posted on the progress of this.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> why that on the tutorial on the apple vis he dont insert the serial key, 
>> instead he just accepted it?
>>> On 01 Aug 2014, at 08:29 am, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The problem is it asks for a product key and you cannot move forward until 
>>> you enter a valid one.
>>> 
 On 01/08/2014 06:33, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:
 just to add anotherproblem on this, i am 

Re: brlty was:Re: using voiceover in terminal?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

In my personal experience, the best option is to build yourself a Linux virtual 
machine with BRLTTY on it, and then connect that VM to your braille display.  
The primary downside to that is that it's not normally very easy to switch 
between one or the other, and you have to have a USB interface on your braille 
device (as Fusion still doesn't support serial ports emulated as sockets or 
through host serial devices).

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Re: Update Urgent help with BootCamp needed

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

once I get the drive partitioned I load up the talking installer, once 
that is loaded I then go to the thumb drive that has windows 8.1  when 
ever I try to run set up it claims that isn't conpatible with my version 
of windows.

my machine is 64 bit
clearly some have gotten this to work but I can't seem to figure it out.
I listened to the podcast on apple vis followed everything to the 
podcast and it isn't working.

do I need a 32 bit machine for this to work?
Hank
On 7/31/2014 11:27 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

on the bootcamp after selecting how much dick you have to give to windows then 
i click install, then after a restart it brings to me the languages
On 01 Aug 2014, at 07:58 am, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 wrote:


how do you get windows 8 to install?
its saying that this is not conpatible with windows. am running the setup.exe 
file from my usb flash drive
could sure use some help on this

On 7/31/2014 10:33 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

just to add anotherproblem on this, i am also now installing windows 8.1 on my 
mac. i downloaded the iso file on the internet, but when trying to install the 
windows, i use the bootcamp and it never goes on after you select the 
languages, what would be the problem?
On 01 Aug 2014, at 02:39 am, Rob  wrote:


Dear List,
I solved the problem of BootCamp not creating a partition & asking for the 
windows 7 install disk.
I downloaded a windows 7 ISo and put it in my DVD drive. that allowed BootCamp  
to continue to create the partition.
the mac rebooted before I could eject the win7 install disk. so it loaded the 
install disk and the only way I could eject it was to restart the mac and hold 
the option key at the mac startup sound. I then could eject the disk and insert 
the win 7 PE talking install disk.once I restarted the mac NVDA came up talking 
and I was able to install windows 7.
My $10 external Sabrent sound card from WalMart worked great.
Now I have another problem,
I got an error when trying to install the BootCamp drivers on windows 7.
it said BootCamp x64 not compatible with this computer.
I may not be wording it exactly, but it was simmular.
any ideas?
so for now, I am using the external sound card. so far, everything else seems 
OK.

Previous Message

Hi,
I listen to the Podcast by Armondo, but My version of BootCamp is completely 
different.
When I started the bootcamp assistant, I had  two choices, 1. download the 
bootcamp win7 drivers
and
2. install win7.
Armondo had three choices I have only 2.
BootCamp  is telling me it cant detect my win7 Disk, insert it and press OK.
My win7 PE mega disk  talking installer is in the
CD drive. it did not get to the point where it should have asked me to devide 
the portitions evenly.
so because I dont have the win7 ISO in the drive, I cant get any further.
I'm using Maveriks 10.94 on a 2009 MacBook.

Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
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Re: brlty was:Re: using voiceover in terminal?

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hmmm! It's been a while since I used a virtual linux build but I'm quite sure I 
used it with a usb-serial cable when I did use it. I don't remember if I had to 
install the driver for the usb-serial converter. And at least when I was using 
vmware, it wasn't difficult to change between the vm and the Mac OS. I didn't 
have to build a vm; I remember burning a blind-friendly version of archlinux 
and I think I also used debian and/or ubuntu this way.  

It is definitely possible to install brltty directly on your Mac. On Mavericks, 
it works fine with my braillelite but it isn't fully functional with my braille 
edge though it does work basically enough for me to use terminal. I still just 
haven't had time to update the instructions for installing brltty on the Mac 
but I can tell you that I do it using screen and I compiled the recommended 
screen-4.0.1 screen and used the patch in the brltty distribution. It isn't 
necessary to use screen if you are doing it in a virtual machine. If you want 
the latest brltty, you will need to compile so you would want something like 
macports installed if you are doing this directly on your Mac. Also, brltty has 
switched to using git instead of subversion if you are using the very latest.

It is possible, though not optimal, to use the terminal with voiceover and its 
braille support. The main key to this is interacting in the window before you 
arrow with the braille display but in my opinion the experience of using 
voiceover in terminal, especially with speech only but also with voiceover's 
braille support, is not as good as using brltty. All the line endings showing 
up in terminal with voiceover braille and the showing up of some symbols 
written out in words also is not something I like at all.
  

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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
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The steadfast love of the Lord
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> In my personal experience, the best option is to build yourself a Linux 
> virtual machine with BRLTTY on it, and then connect that VM to your braille 
> display.  The primary downside to that is that it's not normally very easy to 
> switch between one or the other, and you have to have a USB interface on your 
> braille device (as Fusion still doesn't support serial ports emulated as 
> sockets or through host serial devices).
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Re: Why are pages documents so large in file size

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Sort of like an app on the Mac.  There are data sets, embedded objects etc all 
packaged into one item for you.  So, if you go to the Pages document, press 
VO-shift-m on it and choose Show Package Contents, you can see what is included 
in the document.  I'm not a developer or anything but I'm guessing that 
packaging things this way better allows for accessing the documents across Mac 
and iOS platforms and will make things easier in Yosemite and iOS 8 for opening 
file formats without extra conversions.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 1, 2014, at 12:55 AM, Daniel McGee  wrote:

> Hi Tim, what do you mean by "a package thing?" 
> 
> 
> On 1 Aug 2014, at 07:12, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Hmmm, that's interesting.  Not sure but I don't believe that it really 
>> matters either.  The sizes you're speaking of are minuscule.  When you talk 
>> of files being in the KB range, there's nothing at all to be concerned 
>> about.  I tested like you and had a .DOCX file that I changed into a .Pages 
>> file which changed it from 127 KB to 219 KB.  Pages does tend to kind of do 
>> a package thing for it's files and this may be what causes the difference.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Daniel McGee  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all, was wondering why when one creates a pages document, why they are 
>>> so much larger in file size compared to other doc formats.
>>> 
>>> To put this into perspective for you, I have created a word document 
>>> with text edit called "new books requests.docx" This 1st document, file 
>>> size was only 4KB 
>>> 
>>> However, when I created it in a pages format just to compare, the size 
>>> jumped up to 129KB
>>> 
>>> Quite a difference Don't you think? Anyway, was just curious why this is so 
>>> and is there any possible ways of getting file sizes with the pages format 
>>> smaller?
>>> 
>>> Its not a big deal but it seems pretty extreme for just a document format 
>>> if you know what I mean. The most I have ever seen with a word document at 
>>> least, with in my experience ranges from: 20KB to 30KB possibly 40KB. But 
>>> certainly not within the realms of the 3 digit numbers! lol
>>> 
>>> Thanks all for any feedback with this and remember, its not a big deal but 
>>> more out of curiosity.
>>> 
>>> Daniel
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RE: Why are pages documents so large in file size

[David Goldfield]

Unless I'm misremembering this, I thought I read that files generated in Pages 
are actually the same as .zip files.


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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 11:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Why are pages documents so large in file size

Hi,

Sort of like an app on the Mac.  There are data sets, embedded objects etc all 
packaged into one item for you.  So, if you go to the Pages document, press 
VO-shift-m on it and choose Show Package Contents, you can see what is included 
in the document.  I'm not a developer or anything but I'm guessing that 
packaging things this way better allows for accessing the documents across Mac 
and iOS platforms and will make things easier in Yosemite and iOS 8 for opening 
file formats without extra conversions.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 1, 2014, at 12:55 AM, Daniel McGee  wrote:

> Hi Tim, what do you mean by "a package thing?" 
> 
> 
> On 1 Aug 2014, at 07:12, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Hmmm, that's interesting.  Not sure but I don't believe that it really 
>> matters either.  The sizes you're speaking of are minuscule.  When you talk 
>> of files being in the KB range, there's nothing at all to be concerned 
>> about.  I tested like you and had a .DOCX file that I changed into a .Pages 
>> file which changed it from 127 KB to 219 KB.  Pages does tend to kind of do 
>> a package thing for it's files and this may be what causes the difference.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Daniel McGee  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all, was wondering why when one creates a pages document, why they are 
>>> so much larger in file size compared to other doc formats.
>>> 
>>> To put this into perspective for you, I have created a word document 
>>> with text edit called "new books requests.docx" This 1st document, file 
>>> size was only 4KB 
>>> 
>>> However, when I created it in a pages format just to compare, the size 
>>> jumped up to 129KB
>>> 
>>> Quite a difference Don't you think? Anyway, was just curious why this is so 
>>> and is there any possible ways of getting file sizes with the pages format 
>>> smaller?
>>> 
>>> Its not a big deal but it seems pretty extreme for just a document format 
>>> if you know what I mean. The most I have ever seen with a word document at 
>>> least, with in my experience ranges from: 20KB to 30KB possibly 40KB. But 
>>> certainly not within the realms of the 3 digit numbers! lol
>>> 
>>> Thanks all for any feedback with this and remember, its not a big deal but 
>>> more out of curiosity.
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>>> 
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Re: Why are pages documents so large in file size

[The Believer]

   Zip? If Pages is a word processor then its got formatting which will 
expand such documents, contrary to plain text documents.


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On 8/1/2014 8:48 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Unless I'm misremembering this, I thought I read that files generated in Pages 
are actually the same as .zip files.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 11:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Why are pages documents so large in file size

Hi,

Sort of like an app on the Mac.  There are data sets, embedded objects etc all 
packaged into one item for you.  So, if you go to the Pages document, press 
VO-shift-m on it and choose Show Package Contents, you can see what is included 
in the document.  I'm not a developer or anything but I'm guessing that 
packaging things this way better allows for accessing the documents across Mac 
and iOS platforms and will make things easier in Yosemite and iOS 8 for opening 
file formats without extra conversions.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 1, 2014, at 12:55 AM, Daniel McGee  wrote:


Hi Tim, what do you mean by "a package thing?"


On 1 Aug 2014, at 07:12, Tim Kilburn  wrote:


Hi,

Hmmm, that's interesting.  Not sure but I don't believe that it really matters 
either.  The sizes you're speaking of are minuscule.  When you talk of files 
being in the KB range, there's nothing at all to be concerned about.  I tested 
like you and had a .DOCX file that I changed into a .Pages file which changed 
it from 127 KB to 219 KB.  Pages does tend to kind of do a package thing for 
it's files and this may be what causes the difference.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 1, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Daniel McGee  wrote:


Hi all, was wondering why when one creates a pages document, why they are so 
much larger in file size compared to other doc formats.


To put this into perspective for you, I have created a word document with text edit 
called "new books requests.docx" This 1st document, file size was only 4KB


However, when I created it in a pages format just to compare, the size jumped 
up to 129KB

Quite a difference Don't you think? Anyway, was just curious why this is so and 
is there any possible ways of getting file sizes with the pages format smaller?

Its not a big deal but it seems pretty extreme for just a document format if 
you know what I mean. The most I have ever seen with a word document at least, 
with in my experience ranges from: 20KB to 30KB possibly 40KB. But certainly 
not within the realms of the 3 digit numbers! lol

Thanks all for any feedback with this and remember, its not a big deal but more 
out of curiosity.

Daniel

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Re: Why are pages documents so large in file size

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Show package contents does reveal one clue. If I sort by size the top 
item is a 200KB preview.jpg which I assume is for the document icon. 
There is also preview-web.jpg which is 13K and preview-micro.jpg which 
is 2K. The rest of my 295K test document was made up of index.zip which 
had about 60 little .iwa files (whatever those are) and a folder called 
Metadata with less than 1K of stuff such as a plist file and a file 
called Documentidentifier. So it sounds like the initial hit is taken 
from the big jpg files. Exporting this to a PDF made it about 120K.


CB

On 8/1/14, 11:40 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Sort of like an app on the Mac.  There are data sets, embedded objects etc all 
packaged into one item for you.  So, if you go to the Pages document, press 
VO-shift-m on it and choose Show Package Contents, you can see what is included 
in the document.  I'm not a developer or anything but I'm guessing that 
packaging things this way better allows for accessing the documents across Mac 
and iOS platforms and will make things easier in Yosemite and iOS 8 for opening 
file formats without extra conversions.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 1, 2014, at 12:55 AM, Daniel McGee  wrote:


Hi Tim, what do you mean by "a package thing?"


On 1 Aug 2014, at 07:12, Tim Kilburn  wrote:


Hi,

Hmmm, that's interesting.  Not sure but I don't believe that it really matters 
either.  The sizes you're speaking of are minuscule.  When you talk of files 
being in the KB range, there's nothing at all to be concerned about.  I tested 
like you and had a .DOCX file that I changed into a .Pages file which changed 
it from 127 KB to 219 KB.  Pages does tend to kind of do a package thing for 
it's files and this may be what causes the difference.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 1, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Daniel McGee  wrote:


Hi all, was wondering why when one creates a pages document, why they are so 
much larger in file size compared to other doc formats.


To put this into perspective for you, I have created a word document with text edit 
called "new books requests.docx" This 1st document, file size was only 4KB

However, when I created it in a pages format just to compare, the size jumped 
up to 129KB

Quite a difference Don't you think? Anyway, was just curious why this is so and 
is there any possible ways of getting file sizes with the pages format smaller?

Its not a big deal but it seems pretty extreme for just a document format if 
you know what I mean. The most I have ever seen with a word document at least, 
with in my experience ranges from: 20KB to 30KB possibly 40KB. But certainly 
not within the realms of the 3 digit numbers! lol

Thanks all for any feedback with this and remember, its not a big deal but more 
out of curiosity.

Daniel

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Re: Mac Mini and carry on baggage?

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Dunno but I've taken my MacBook Pro through a couple airports this year 
(US only) and they never asked me to open it up. I did have to pull it 
out and put it in a separate tray for the xray machine.


CB

On 7/31/14, 4:41 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

Can a scan detect the difference between a battery and explosives?

Gena
On 30 Jul 2014, at 03:32, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Now days they seem to just xray everything and don't ask you to turn stuff on.

CB

On 7/29/14, 5:31 PM, Kevin Barry wrote:

I've carried many laptops on airplanes domestic and international and have 
never once been asked to turn one on.

At 05:21 PM 7/29/2014, you wrote:

If they do, I hope they have a plug.


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Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 4:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mac Mini and carry on baggage?

I've done this as well with no issues. They might ask you to turn it on but
I was never asked.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac Mini and carry on baggage?

I never have done that but I doubt it would cause a problem.

At 04:21 PM 7/29/2014, you wrote:

Hi.
Has anyone every taken a Mac Mini with in in their carry on? Does
it give security a fit, or do they let it pass through?


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Re: just testing to make sure I can reach the list

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Got it.

On 01/08/2014 13:36, Scott Shade wrote:

Hello all. Just making sure this will reach the list.  I recently started
playing around with a mac and hope this list will be a great wealth of
information. Take care.





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Logins iCloud and Contacts

[The Believer]

   I am still working to get my MBP with Mountain Lion set up and data 
moved to it. 3 things I wish to take care of.


   First, when I start up the Mac, it does not sign into my wifi, I 
have to select it from a list. Is there a setting for this?


   Second, sometimes but not always, Voiceover is not speaking at the 
login screen. I looked in the login area but did not find a setting to 
check for this.


   Third, some time ago I imported my contacts into OS X. But now I 
have iCloud set up for Contacts, took care of my iPhone and now want to 
do it on the Mac. I cannot find those contacts tho I know they were 
successfully imported. I wanted to wipe those out and let iCloud do it. 
When I open Contacts, I see On My Mac, and Smart Contacts and below that 
is "last imported" buit no contacts anywhere and no import date, 
assuming that is what that line is supposed to be for. If I can be sure 
there are no contacts (tho where could they have gone?) I will enable 
iCloud on the Mac to sync the contacts.


   Thanks.

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Re: brlty was:Re: using voiceover in terminal?

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Yep, USB serial will work, because it's just USB that VMWare can pass through; 
normally though this means the only way to get braille back is to disconnect 
it, and unless you're using a non-serial device that will hotplug to relaunch 
BRLTTY this simply can't work.  Check the BRLTTY docs for all the details.

Using BRLTTY on OS X means you only get braille in one host virtual terminal, 
much less faithful emulation of the host console, and less driver support.  I 
personally don't think it's worth the trade-off when you can easily SSH into 
the Mac from Linux, but if things have changed since I last tried it, it might 
be feasible.  To be honest, though, I doubt BRLTTY will ever see good support 
for platforms other than Linux for direct screen access.

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iOS safari crashes upon opening PDFs

[Roman]

Hi
Does anybody know the following?
When opening an URL, eg. Out of Google searches, which links to a PDF file, iOS 
Safari would  crash and close  with voiceover running. with voiceover turned 
off, nothing happens. in some cases, usual  websites are affected as well. I 
observe this behavior since the last updates of iOS without any changes. Would  
be interesting to know your findings as if it helps to find out whether it's a 
specific voiceover issue.

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Re: iOS safari crashes upon opening PDFs

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Interesting. I went to google, searched on PDF example and then found a 
link called "Parameters for Opening PDF Files - Adobe" which I would 
think is a pretty reasonable test since it's on Adobe's site. After 
double-tapping it Safari crashed. I'm on the latest iOS 7.1.2. Seems 
very reproducible.


CB

On 8/1/14, 3:29 PM, Roman wrote:

Hi
Does anybody know the following?
When opening an URL, eg. Out of Google searches, which links to a PDF file, iOS 
Safari would  crash and close  with voiceover running. with voiceover turned 
off, nothing happens. in some cases, usual  websites are affected as well. I 
observe this behavior since the last updates of iOS without any changes. Would  
be interesting to know your findings as if it helps to find out whether it's a 
specific voiceover issue.



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bootcamp help

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

Hello I partitioned bootcamp put in talking installer of windows7
from there what are the steps to install windows 8.1?
I got it saved to the flash drive I am
 stuck from there I did listen to the podcast.  what am I missing??
it won't let me even start the installation of 8 it claims it isn't 
compatible with my copy of windowes

yet the person in the podcast clearly got it to work.  so what am I missing?
Hank


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Re: bootcamp help

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Hank,

My suggestion to you is to reopen bootcamp assistant and VO-SPACE on the help 
button. This will give detail instructions on how to install Windows in 
bootcamp. I read this document a couple of times and printed it out for my 
husband who is sighted. I did listen to the podcast too, but the complete 
process of step-by-step directions were not given and was assumed. Since I had 
been through this recently, it made perfect sense to me. Make sure that your 
USB flash drive is formatted correctly. At one point in my 2 month adventure 
(stop/go) to get Win 8.0 into bootcamp, I totally wiped out the USB flash drive 
to make sure that wasn't where the problem was. If you get past the langage 
screen in Win 8.1, you need to click on custom. Hopefully, your talking 
installer works. This is all for now. HTH.

Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2014, at 12:50 PM, "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello I partitioned bootcamp put in talking installer of windows7
> from there what are the steps to install windows 8.1?
> I got it saved to the flash drive I am
> stuck from there I did listen to the podcast.  what am I missing??
> it won't let me even start the installation of 8 it claims it isn't 
> compatible with my copy of windowes
> yet the person in the podcast clearly got it to work.  so what am I missing?
> Hank
> 
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Re: bootcamp help

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

I did format the drive as ntfs is this the problem?  I also wiped the drive
also what installer is being used the talking installer basic or the 
mega talking installer?

Hank

On 8/1/2014 1:11 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:

Hi Hank,

My suggestion to you is to reopen bootcamp assistant and VO-SPACE on the help 
button. This will give detail instructions on how to install Windows in 
bootcamp. I read this document a couple of times and printed it out for my 
husband who is sighted. I did listen to the podcast too, but the complete 
process of step-by-step directions were not given and was assumed. Since I had 
been through this recently, it made perfect sense to me. Make sure that your 
USB flash drive is formatted correctly. At one point in my 2 month adventure 
(stop/go) to get Win 8.0 into bootcamp, I totally wiped out the USB flash drive 
to make sure that wasn't where the problem was. If you get past the langage 
screen in Win 8.1, you need to click on custom. Hopefully, your talking 
installer works. This is all for now. HTH.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 1, 2014, at 12:50 PM, "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona" 
 wrote:

Hello I partitioned bootcamp put in talking installer of windows7
from there what are the steps to install windows 8.1?
I got it saved to the flash drive I am
stuck from there I did listen to the podcast.  what am I missing??
it won't let me even start the installation of 8 it claims it isn't compatible 
with my copy of windowes
yet the person in the podcast clearly got it to work.  so what am I missing?
Hank


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RE: bootcamp help

[Eileen Misrahi]

 Hi Hank, 

I believe that is correct. Since I didn't use a talking installer, I can't
comment on that end of it. I'm not sure if I bookmark the link for Apple's
instructions on this. If so, I'll paste the link into the body of another
post. 

Eileen 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and
Seeing-eye dog Iona
Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 1:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bootcamp help

I did format the drive as ntfs is this the problem?  I also wiped the drive
also what installer is being used the talking installer basic or the mega
talking installer?
Hank

On 8/1/2014 1:11 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
> Hi Hank,
>
> My suggestion to you is to reopen bootcamp assistant and VO-SPACE on the
help button. This will give detail instructions on how to install Windows in
bootcamp. I read this document a couple of times and printed it out for my
husband who is sighted. I did listen to the podcast too, but the complete
process of step-by-step directions were not given and was assumed. Since I
had been through this recently, it made perfect sense to me. Make sure that
your USB flash drive is formatted correctly. At one point in my 2 month
adventure (stop/go) to get Win 8.0 into bootcamp, I totally wiped out the
USB flash drive to make sure that wasn't where the problem was. If you get
past the langage screen in Win 8.1, you need to click on custom. Hopefully,
your talking installer works. This is all for now. HTH.
>
> Eileen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 1, 2014, at 12:50 PM, "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona"
 wrote:
>>
>> Hello I partitioned bootcamp put in talking installer of windows7 
>> from there what are the steps to install windows 8.1?
>> I got it saved to the flash drive I am stuck from there I did listen 
>> to the podcast.  what am I missing??
>> it won't let me even start the installation of 8 it claims it isn't 
>> compatible with my copy of windowes yet the person in the podcast clearly
got it to work.  so what am I missing?
>> Hank
>>
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Re: bootcamp help

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

for those who has used the talking installer what did you do and what 
version of windows did u try to install?

I followed boot camps instructions from the apple page
 to gety bootcamp ready what I am totally confused about and frustrated 
with is that folks are able to install windows 8.1 using the talking 
installer from bryansmart.com

and I can't get it to work.
has any one successfully done a installation this way using a 64 bit 
version of 8.1 and the talking installer from bryansmart.com site?

if so what did you do?
Hank

On 8/1/2014 3:10 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:

  Hi Hank,

I believe that is correct. Since I didn't use a talking installer, I can't
comment on that end of it. I'm not sure if I bookmark the link for Apple's
instructions on this. If so, I'll paste the link into the body of another
post.

Eileen

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and
Seeing-eye dog Iona
Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 1:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bootcamp help

I did format the drive as ntfs is this the problem?  I also wiped the drive
also what installer is being used the talking installer basic or the mega
talking installer?
Hank

On 8/1/2014 1:11 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:

Hi Hank,

My suggestion to you is to reopen bootcamp assistant and VO-SPACE on the

help button. This will give detail instructions on how to install Windows in
bootcamp. I read this document a couple of times and printed it out for my
husband who is sighted. I did listen to the podcast too, but the complete
process of step-by-step directions were not given and was assumed. Since I
had been through this recently, it made perfect sense to me. Make sure that
your USB flash drive is formatted correctly. At one point in my 2 month
adventure (stop/go) to get Win 8.0 into bootcamp, I totally wiped out the
USB flash drive to make sure that wasn't where the problem was. If you get
past the langage screen in Win 8.1, you need to click on custom. Hopefully,
your talking installer works. This is all for now. HTH.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 1, 2014, at 12:50 PM, "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona"

 wrote:

Hello I partitioned bootcamp put in talking installer of windows7
from there what are the steps to install windows 8.1?
I got it saved to the flash drive I am stuck from there I did listen
to the podcast.  what am I missing??
it won't let me even start the installation of 8 it claims it isn't
compatible with my copy of windowes yet the person in the podcast clearly

got it to work.  so what am I missing?

Hank


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Re: Update Urgent help with BootCamp needed

[Kevin Barry]

You can buy a key card from Amazon or newegg.com.

At 10:52 AM 8/1/2014, you wrote:
i don't have the key, i only have the iso file. so how can i buy a 
serial number for a windows 8.1 just in case i want it to my mac. i 
am running os 10.9 mavericks and i think i do have the latest 
bootcamp assistant because i just bought my computer last december.

> On 01 Aug 2014, at 14:30, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
>
> Hi Diane,
>
> The last thread was correct that you need to bring up bootcamp 
assistant if you want to remove your copy of Windows off your 
computer or change the partition back to one single one. When I was 
going through this tedious process myself, I totally wiped my USB 
flash card clean and started over fresh before installing. At this 
point, I'm not sure if you have a physical disk or just an ISO. I 
had both, but my copy of Windows was Win 8.0. I thought I 
remembered that you said you have a key. Is that correct? There's 
something funky (to me) about the Microsoft disks because when I 
needed to call MS, they stated to me that they knew about this 
problem and if I wanted to give them 80 bucks they could fix it. In 
another call to MS, they wouldn't help because Win 8 was not 
installed on the computer. Oh by the way for Ron, did you make sure 
that you had the latest bootcamp drivers for your Mac? For what 
it's worth, my troubles occurred on a MBA 2013, running Mountain 
Lion. My friend who had no issues installing Win 8.1 was running 
Mavericks. That was the only difference when comparing the 
installation. Once you get over the hump of the installation, you 
will be happy you are using Windows in bootcamp. It's definitely 
the fastest PC I have ever owned. Keep the list posted on the progress of this.

>
> Best,
> Eileen Hi Diane,
>
> The last thread was correct that you need to bring up bootcamp 
assistant if you want to remove your copy of Windows off your 
computer or change the partition back to one single one. When I was 
going through this tedious process myself, I totally wiped my USB 
flash card clean and started over fresh before installing. At this 
point, I'm not sure if you have a physical disk or just an ISO. I 
had both, but my copy of Windows was Win 8.0. I thought I 
remembered that you said you have a key. Is that correct? There's 
something funky (to me) about the Microsoft disks because when I 
needed to call MS, they stated to me that they knew about this 
problem and if I wanted to give them 80 bucks they could fix it. In 
another call to MS, they wouldn't help because Win 8 was not 
installed on the computer. Oh by the way for Ron, did you make sure 
that you had the latest bootcamp drivers for your Mac? For what 
it's worth, my troubles occurred on a MBA 2013, running Mountain 
Lion. My friend who had no issues installing Win 8.1 was running 
Mavericks. That was the only difference when comparing the 
installation. Once you get over the hump of the installation, you 
will be happy you are using Windows in bootcamp. It's definitely 
the fastest PC I have ever owned. Keep the list posted on the progress of this.

>
> Best,
> Eileen Hi Diane,
>
> The last thread was correct that you need to bring up bootcamp 
assistant if you want to remove your copy of Windows off your 
computer or change the partition back to one single one. When I was 
going through this tedious process myself, I totally wiped my USB 
flash card clean and started over fresh before installing. At this 
point, I'm not sure if you have a physical disk or just an ISO. I 
had both, but my copy of Windows was Win 8.0. I thought I 
remembered that you said you have a key. Is that correct? There's 
something funky (to me) about the Microsoft disks because when I 
needed to call MS, they stated to me that they knew about this 
problem and if I wanted to give them 80 bucks they could fix it. In 
another call to MS, they wouldn't help because Win 8 was not 
installed on the computer. Oh by the way for Ron, did you make sure 
that you had the latest bootcamp drivers for your Mac? For what 
it's worth, my troubles occurred on a MBA 2013, running Mountain 
Lion. My friend who had no issues installing Win 8.1 was running 
Mavericks. That was the only difference when comparing the 
installation. Once you get over the hump of the installation, you 
will be happy you are using Windows in bootcamp. It's definitely 
the fastest PC I have ever owned. Keep the list posted on the progress of this.

>
> Best,
> Eileen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 31, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera 
 wrote:

>>
>> why that on the tutorial on the apple vis he dont insert the 
serial key, instead he just accepted it?
>>> On 01 Aug 2014, at 08:29 am, Christopher Hallsworth 
 wrote:

>>>
>>> The problem is it asks for a product key and you cannot move 
forward until you enter a valid one.

>>>
 On 01/08/2014 06:33, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:
 just to add anotherproblem on this, i am also now installing 
windows 8.

Typing a semicolon in Skype

[Angus MacKinnon]

I ran Skype on my Mac running OS 10.9.4 and tried tyiping 
1234567890;123456789012 and the semicolon (;) did not appear. Is it possible to 
type the semicolon (;( in the Dial Pad window of Skype? If so, how? I am a 
Canada trying to use Skype to phone my bank and entering my16 digit Pin.

Angus MacKinnon

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Re: bootcamp help

[Kevin Barry]

I did all this a few months ago.
I know  others will argue but I still think doing it with sighted 
assistance is a good idea.
First you need bootcamp  assistant to both partition your drive and 
download the drivers that Windows will need.
Then, you use bootcamp to install windows. If Windows 8.1, which I 
recommend, you will need to enter in the product  key. After that it 
should go fairly smoothly.

Shouldn't matter if you use an ISO or a DVD.

At 03:50 PM 8/1/2014, you wrote:

Hello I partitioned bootcamp put in talking installer of windows7
from there what are the steps to install windows 8.1?
I got it saved to the flash drive I am
 stuck from there I did listen to the podcast.  what am I missing??
it won't let me even start the installation of 8 it claims it isn't 
compatible with my copy of windowes

yet the person in the podcast clearly got it to work.  so what am I missing?
Hank


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how to check if a site is ssl encrypted and its certificate in safari with vo on the mac?

[Anouk Radix]

Hi everyone,
I would like to be able to see if, when i use a https url, i get indeed 
connected to a site via a secured ssl connection and i would also like to check 
its certificate.
How can i do this with safari and vo on the mac?
I tried the vo+shift+m menu but this just allows me to click on a given link.
Thanks in advance for any info.
Greetings, Anouk,

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My bootcamb disappeared

[ramy moustafa]

All
My bootcamp disappeared
On mavericks i went to sys preferences startup disk and i found mac volume and 
untitled volume
What can i do to restart with windows not mac os?
Thanks so much for helping

Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
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Re: My bootcamb disappeared

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

most likely untitled volume is your bootcamp[ volume


On 8/1/2014 8:01 PM, ramy moustafa wrote:

All
My bootcamp disappeared
On mavericks i went to sys preferences startup disk and i found mac volume and 
untitled volume
What can i do to restart with windows not mac os?
Thanks so much for helping

Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
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