date:20140117

No, it doesn’t, unfortunately.

Teresa

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On Jan 16, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Evening list members, can someone tell me if mozilla thunderbird for the mac 
> works with voice over?
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Re: "where to go from here? macv


Cheers 
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On 17 Jan 2014, at 5:19 pm, Daniel Hawkins  
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> I would like to add, if you want to adjust VO on the fly, and not the master 
> volume, just hold ctrl, options, and cmd, then use the left or right arrows 
> untill it say volume, then adjust by going up or down.
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
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> 
> On Jan 16, 2014, at 7:52 PM, Alex Hall  it makes it lots easier to adjust voice over with out adjusting the master 
> volume. Also very handy if you have voice over coming through a different set 
> of speakers > wrote:
> 
>> You've got it. Just be sure VO is set to headphones, or whatever output you 
>> want, and not "default" as that will go through whatever the Mac's output is.
>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 8:48 PM, Regina Alvarado  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you so much Alex. I understand now. System prefs I can set for HDMI 
>>> and VO as it is now through speakers! Yay!! No more problems hearing If I 
>>> am wrong, please correct the above.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> reggie and Allegra
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The sound output in System Preferences is the "master". All output goes 
>>> through there, from Voiceover to iTunes to Youtube. Voiceover's sound 
>>> output setting is Voiceover's alone. If you set the Mini to use the HDMI 
>>> output for sound, then set Voiceover to use headphones, vo will speak 
>>> through any speakers attached to your headphone jack and not through the 
>>> system default (which would be the HDMI). I hope that makes sense.
 On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Regina Alvarado  
 wrote:
 
 OK, have a pair of speakers. Both my VO and any audio-video is going now 
 through the speakers. Found sounds both in system prefs and the VO 
 settings. I wish to have control of VO separate from audio-video. Is this 
 possible? Have speakers hooked into earphone jack on Mini, if switched to 
 the (forgot the name of the cable MVDI?) will I achieve what I want? 
 Please be patient, new to Mini, and ex-hubby would have set up, well 
 probably not, could not stand Apple, LOL!! Thanks for the help!
 
 
 
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connecting bluetooth headpset

2014-01-17 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera

can somebody tell me how to pair my bluetooth headset. because when im in the 
bluetooth preferences, i cant see my headset although it was already on. can 
somebody give me the step by step procedure.

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Re: Teamspeak3 accessibility

2014-01-17 Thread Phil Halton

I'm totally unfamiliar with teamspeak and/or team talk. Does this mean they are 
usable or unusable for the blind?
. 
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> the stable version of teamspeak works as well as team talk. That is, 
> everything is accessible except the chat and channel tree. There is, however, 
> a teamspeak 3 beta you can update to (instructions on their forums), which 
> uses QT 5. This makes the channel tree accessible.
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> 
>> I received an invite to a chat room using the TeamSpeak3 client. I see that 
>> there is a Mac version and am wondering if its accessible with VO? I also 
>> have a Windows VM and am pretty sure I can use the TeamSpeak windows client 
>> with no problem. But, I'd like to give it a try on the mac if possible. 
>> Anyone using this client on the mac?
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Re: Teamspeak3 accessibility

2014-01-17 Thread isaac

Team speak and team talk are useable for the blind. On the mac platform team 
speak has some issues with accessibility. You can’t move from channel to 
channel on the server but for the most part  it is useable.
On Jan 17, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> I'm totally unfamiliar with teamspeak and/or team talk. Does this mean they 
> are usable or unusable for the blind?
> . 
> On Jan 16, 2014, at 4:25 AM, Piotr Machacz  wrote:
> 
>> the stable version of teamspeak works as well as team talk. That is, 
>> everything is accessible except the chat and channel tree. There is, 
>> however, a teamspeak 3 beta you can update to (instructions on their 
>> forums), which uses QT 5. This makes the channel tree accessible.
>> On 16 Jan 2014, at 05:37 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> I received an invite to a chat room using the TeamSpeak3 client. I see that 
>>> there is a Mac version and am wondering if its accessible with VO? I also 
>>> have a Windows VM and am pretty sure I can use the TeamSpeak windows client 
>>> with no problem. But, I'd like to give it a try on the mac if possible. 
>>> Anyone using this client on the mac?
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Re: Teamspeak3 accessibility

2014-01-17 Thread David Taylor

Hi,

Seems you have to fill in a capture to search their forums. Is there a link to 
a download file you can send to the list, or is it a case of get the main 
client first and upgrade to the beta from within it?

Cheers
Dave

On 17 Jan 2014, at 14:23, isaac  wrote:

> Team speak and team talk are useable for the blind. On the mac platform team 
> speak has some issues with accessibility. You can’t move from channel to 
> channel on the server but for the most part  it is useable.
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> I'm totally unfamiliar with teamspeak and/or team talk. Does this mean they 
>> are usable or unusable for the blind?
>> . 
>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 4:25 AM, Piotr Machacz  wrote:
>> 
>>> the stable version of teamspeak works as well as team talk. That is, 
>>> everything is accessible except the chat and channel tree. There is, 
>>> however, a teamspeak 3 beta you can update to (instructions on their 
>>> forums), which uses QT 5. This makes the channel tree accessible.
>>> On 16 Jan 2014, at 05:37 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 I received an invite to a chat room using the TeamSpeak3 client. I see 
 that there is a Mac version and am wondering if its accessible with VO? I 
 also have a Windows VM and am pretty sure I can use the TeamSpeak windows 
 client with no problem. But, I'd like to give it a try on the mac if 
 possible. Anyone using this client on the mac?
 
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Re: Teamspeak3 accessibility

2014-01-17 Thread isaac

Here is the link to the team speak downloads for mac 
http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads
On Jan 17, 2014, at 8:25 AM, David Taylor  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Seems you have to fill in a capture to search their forums. Is there a link 
> to a download file you can send to the list, or is it a case of get the main 
> client first and upgrade to the beta from within it?
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 17 Jan 2014, at 14:23, isaac  wrote:
> 
>> Team speak and team talk are useable for the blind. On the mac platform team 
>> speak has some issues with accessibility. You can’t move from channel to 
>> channel on the server but for the most part  it is useable.
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm totally unfamiliar with teamspeak and/or team talk. Does this mean they 
>>> are usable or unusable for the blind?
>>> . 
>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 4:25 AM, Piotr Machacz  wrote:
>>> 
 the stable version of teamspeak works as well as team talk. That is, 
 everything is accessible except the chat and channel tree. There is, 
 however, a teamspeak 3 beta you can update to (instructions on their 
 forums), which uses QT 5. This makes the channel tree accessible.
 On 16 Jan 2014, at 05:37 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
> I received an invite to a chat room using the TeamSpeak3 client. I see 
> that there is a Mac version and am wondering if its accessible with VO? I 
> also have a Windows VM and am pretty sure I can use the TeamSpeak windows 
> client with no problem. But, I'd like to give it a try on the mac if 
> possible. Anyone using this client on the mac?
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Re: Teamspeak3 accessibility

2014-01-17 Thread David Taylor

Hi, that doesn't have the beta on it as far as I can tell though, so this 
doesn't answer my question.

Cheers
Dave

On 17 Jan 2014, at 14:31, isaac  wrote:

> Here is the link to the team speak downloads for mac 
> http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 8:25 AM, David Taylor  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Seems you have to fill in a capture to search their forums. Is there a link 
>> to a download file you can send to the list, or is it a case of get the main 
>> client first and upgrade to the beta from within it?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
>> On 17 Jan 2014, at 14:23, isaac  wrote:
>> 
>>> Team speak and team talk are useable for the blind. On the mac platform 
>>> team speak has some issues with accessibility. You can’t move from channel 
>>> to channel on the server but for the most part  it is useable.
>>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 I'm totally unfamiliar with teamspeak and/or team talk. Does this mean 
 they are usable or unusable for the blind?
 . 
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> the stable version of teamspeak works as well as team talk. That is, 
> everything is accessible except the chat and channel tree. There is, 
> however, a teamspeak 3 beta you can update to (instructions on their 
> forums), which uses QT 5. This makes the channel tree accessible.
> On 16 Jan 2014, at 05:37 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> I received an invite to a chat room using the TeamSpeak3 client. I see 
>> that there is a Mac version and am wondering if its accessible with VO? 
>> I also have a Windows VM and am pretty sure I can use the TeamSpeak 
>> windows client with no problem. But, I'd like to give it a try on the 
>> mac if possible. Anyone using this client on the mac?
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questions about preview and braille

2014-01-17 Thread Caitlyn and Maggie

Hi,
I have been reading a file in preview.  I have another file open in text edit 
and have to switch between the two files.

Everything is fine until I have to return to preview.  when I do, my place 
isn’t kep and it goes back to the beginning of the section I originally did a 
find command for to begin reading the file.

Is there a way to keep my place in preview?  Does Skim work better for this?

thanks!
Caitlyn

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Re: Safari question

2014-01-17 Thread David Taylor

Press command-[

Cheers
Dave

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> Good morning. Haven’t quite gotten things sound wise the way I want them, but 
> getting closer because of your help. Thanks. Have a simple question. When in 
> Safari, if I am interacting with the HTML and links, how do I get back to the 
> previous page I was on or my home page? Have the prefs to work links with the 
> tab key. Tried going into menu. Maybe if I ask for the toolbar, but not sure 
> of command for that, VO something? Thanks.
> Reggie and Allegra
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Safari question

2014-01-17 Thread regina alvarado

Good morning. Haven’t quite gotten things sound wise the way I want them, but 
getting closer because of your help. Thanks. Have a simple question. When in 
Safari, if I am interacting with the HTML and links, how do I get back to the 
previous page I was on or my home page? Have the prefs to work links with the 
tab key. Tried going into menu. Maybe if I ask for the toolbar, but not sure of 
command for that, VO something? Thanks.
Reggie and Allegra

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Re: Safari question

As David said cmd [. That can be found under the delete key. If you start from 
the right under the delete key and go left by three keys, that is [. If you hit 
cmd ] that will go forward. this key combination can be used under finder too.
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> Press command-[
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 17 Jan 2014, at 15:38, regina alvarado  wrote:
> 
>> Good morning. Haven’t quite gotten things sound wise the way I want them, 
>> but getting closer because of your help. Thanks. Have a simple question. 
>> When in Safari, if I am interacting with the HTML and links, how do I get 
>> back to the previous page I was on or my home page? Have the prefs to work 
>> links with the tab key. Tried going into menu. Maybe if I ask for the 
>> toolbar, but not sure of command for that, VO something? Thanks.
>> Reggie and Allegra
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Re: questions about preview and braille

Hello all,

This tip works in both Preview and Text Edit. When you go to the program go 
right untill you get to the text feild and interact, now do the rotor command 
and navigate with character, words, or lines, or paragraph, so when you switch 
from one app to the next it will remember the last place.
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On Jan 17, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
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> Hi,
> I have been reading a file in preview.  I have another file open in text edit 
> and have to switch between the two files.
> 
> Everything is fine until I have to return to preview.  when I do, my place 
> isn’t kep and it goes back to the beginning of the section I originally did a 
> find command for to begin reading the file.
> 
> Is there a way to keep my place in preview?  Does Skim work better for this?
> 
> thanks!
> Caitlyn
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Re: Safari question

2014-01-17 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi,

In case David’s message doesn’t read the punctuation to you, it is command-left 
brace.  This is the key just to the right of the letter “p”.  These sort of 
shortcuts can also be found within the menubar in the History menu.  Note that 
all regular keyboard shortcuts available to the sighted user are also available 
to you as a VO user so take some time to explore the menu items and their 
corresponding keyboard shortcut and this could make things easier for your web 
navigation.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> Press command-[
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 17 Jan 2014, at 15:38, regina alvarado  wrote:
> 
>> Good morning. Haven’t quite gotten things sound wise the way I want them, 
>> but getting closer because of your help. Thanks. Have a simple question. 
>> When in Safari, if I am interacting with the HTML and links, how do I get 
>> back to the previous page I was on or my home page? Have the prefs to work 
>> links with the tab key. Tried going into menu. Maybe if I ask for the 
>> toolbar, but not sure of command for that, VO something? Thanks.
>> Reggie and Allegra
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Selecting a bunch of items in Mavericks without having to select them all

Hey all,

Is there a command to select the first item and then go down a bunch select the 
last one and the command will select all the items in between the two points? 
For example if I want to highlight all of my Billy Joel songs for a playlist 
instead of clicking on 200 songs with VO command enter is there a command to 
select the first and last one and by doing so it will highlight everything 
between the first and last one. Thanks,

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Re: Selecting a bunch of items in Mavericks without having to select them all

2014-01-17 Thread isaac

Use command a to select all items.
On Jan 17, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

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> 
> Is there a command to select the first item and then go down a bunch select 
> the last one and the command will select all the items in between the two 
> points? For example if I want to highlight all of my Billy Joel songs for a 
> playlist instead of clicking on 200 songs with VO command enter is there a 
> command to select the first and last one and by doing so it will highlight 
> everything between the first and last one. Thanks,
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Navigating Between Sections Within a Chapter in iBooks?

Hi, all,

I’m currently reading a novel in iBooks which has several sections within each 
chapter. I can read it on the iPod just fine, but on the Mac, the sections 
don’t seem to be presented sequentially by VO. Whole sections are skipped 
sometimes. Has anyone found a way to use a keystroke to go to the next section? 
I’ve tried item chooser, which is unpredictable, and I’ve tried stopping 
interaction with the book text scroll area and using right-arrow to find the 
next section, but this doesn’t work either.

Thanks,
Teresa

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Re: Selecting a bunch of items in Mavericks without having to select them all

Hey man,

That won’t work, as I don’t want to select all items, I want to select al lthe 
items between a starting and ending point and the items in between those two 
points not outside them. 
On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:55 AM, isaac  wrote:

> Use command a to select all items.
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Is there a command to select the first item and then go down a bunch select 
>> the last one and the command will select all the items in between the two 
>> points? For example if I want to highlight all of my Billy Joel songs for a 
>> playlist instead of clicking on 200 songs with VO command enter is there a 
>> command to select the first and last one and by doing so it will highlight 
>> everything between the first and last one. Thanks,
>> 
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Re: Selecting a bunch of items in Mavericks without having to select them all

Really? I use shift. Wonder what’s the difference...
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On Jan 17, 2014, at 10:55 AM, isaac  wrote:

> Use command a to select all items.
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Is there a command to select the first item and then go down a bunch select 
>> the last one and the command will select all the items in between the two 
>> points? For example if I want to highlight all of my Billy Joel songs for a 
>> playlist instead of clicking on 200 songs with VO command enter is there a 
>> command to select the first and last one and by doing so it will highlight 
>> everything between the first and last one. Thanks,
>> 
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Anyone using Command C or Scribe

Hey,

Been looking for something like this for awhile, a way to easily copy my 
clipboard on my mac to my iPhone and vice versa. I installed Comman C on my Mac 
but couldn’t get very far with it, and don’t want to plunk down the money for 
either of these utilities until I know they work with VoiceOVer, anyone try 
either of them. Here’s the link to the article on both

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2014/01/scribe-lets-you-share-your-clipboard-between-mac-and-ios-via-bluetooth-le

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Re: Selecting a bunch of items in Mavericks without having to select them all

Ok, what I do is do the line command, or word command or link command, then 
start the top and hold shift, and just go down till the end, once you have 
select all that you want, then cmd c to copy .
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On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey man,
> 
> That won’t work, as I don’t want to select all items, I want to select al 
> lthe items between a starting and ending point and the items in between those 
> two points not outside them. 
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:55 AM, isaac  wrote:
> 
>> Use command a to select all items.
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> Is there a command to select the first item and then go down a bunch select 
>>> the last one and the command will select all the items in between the two 
>>> points? For example if I want to highlight all of my Billy Joel songs for a 
>>> playlist instead of clicking on 200 songs with VO command enter is there a 
>>> command to select the first and last one and by doing so it will highlight 
>>> everything between the first and last one. Thanks,
>>> 
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Re: Selecting a bunch of items in Mavericks without having to select them all

I know of no method with the keyboard to mark the beginning and end of a 
selection area. You can try holding down shift-down-arrow, and then check your 
progress periodically by pressing VO-F6. Another way to do this might be to do 
a search in your library for Billy Joel, select all the resulting songs by 
pressing command-a, then make a playlist from your selection with 
command-shift-n.

htH,
Teresa

Hth,
Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Jan 17, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> Is there a command to select the first item and then go down a bunch select 
> the last one and the command will select all the items in between the two 
> points? For example if I want to highlight all of my Billy Joel songs for a 
> playlist instead of clicking on 200 songs with VO command enter is there a 
> command to select the first and last one and by doing so it will highlight 
> everything between the first and last one. Thanks,
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Re: questions about preview and braille

2014-01-17 Thread Caitlyn and Maggie

Daniel,
Um.. thanks.

However, how do you do the roter command on a mac?  Or is this the vo u thing?

Cait

On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> This tip works in both Preview and Text Edit. When you go to the program go 
> right untill you get to the text feild and interact, now do the rotor command 
> and navigate with character, words, or lines, or paragraph, so when you 
> switch from one app to the next it will remember the last place.
> Daniel Hawkins
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> On Jan 17, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I have been reading a file in preview.  I have another file open in text 
>> edit and have to switch between the two files.
>> 
>> Everything is fine until I have to return to preview.  when I do, my place 
>> isn’t kep and it goes back to the beginning of the section I originally did 
>> a find command for to begin reading the file.
>> 
>> Is there a way to keep my place in preview?  Does Skim work better for this?
>> 
>> thanks!
>> Caitlyn
>> 
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Re: questions about preview and braille

Ok, I use the trackpad for this, since I’m am more used to the IOS editing.

If you turn on trackpad commander you can use rotor to select character, word, 
line, etc. when you interact with a text you can select one of the rotor 
options and use the down arrow. So you can skip by character, word, line etc. 
This method is also used for editing and copying and paste.

I’m not sure this method is the best way to do things, but this is the way I 
find most helpful.
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On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
wrote:

> Daniel,
> Um.. thanks.
> 
> However, how do you do the roter command on a mac?  Or is this the vo u thing?
> 
> Cait
> 
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> This tip works in both Preview and Text Edit. When you go to the program go 
>> right untill you get to the text feild and interact, now do the rotor 
>> command and navigate with character, words, or lines, or paragraph, so when 
>> you switch from one app to the next it will remember the last place.
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
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>> 
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I have been reading a file in preview.  I have another file open in text 
>>> edit and have to switch between the two files.
>>> 
>>> Everything is fine until I have to return to preview.  when I do, my place 
>>> isn’t kep and it goes back to the beginning of the section I originally did 
>>> a find command for to begin reading the file.
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to keep my place in preview?  Does Skim work better for this?
>>> 
>>> thanks!
>>> Caitlyn
>>> 
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Rotor setting not reading where it is set

2014-01-17 Thread regina alvarado

With quick nag on I hit left and up arrow to change to character to read by 
letter. This did not work. How do I read by character? Thanks! 

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Re: Selecting a bunch of items in Mavericks without having to select them all

Hey Teresa,

Thanks, your search idea and selecting all might be the best way. I remember 
when I could see there was a way to do this back in my windows days. It is not 
a command I would use a lot, but every now and then.
On Jan 17, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> I know of no method with the keyboard to mark the beginning and end of a 
> selection area. You can try holding down shift-down-arrow, and then check 
> your progress periodically by pressing VO-F6. Another way to do this might be 
> to do a search in your library for Billy Joel, select all the resulting songs 
> by pressing command-a, then make a playlist from your selection with 
> command-shift-n.
> 
> htH,
> Teresa
> 
> Hth,
> Teresa
> 
> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
> 
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Is there a command to select the first item and then go down a bunch select 
>> the last one and the command will select all the items in between the two 
>> points? For example if I want to highlight all of my Billy Joel songs for a 
>> playlist instead of clicking on 200 songs with VO command enter is there a 
>> command to select the first and last one and by doing so it will highlight 
>> everything between the first and last one. Thanks,
>> 
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Re: Rotor setting not reading where it is set

Hi, Regina,

the name of the feature is actually “quick nav” with a V as in Victor, short 
for navigation. I love your phrase for it, though, as it does sometimes seem 
that way to me. :)

Make sure quick nav is turned on by pressing left and right arrow keys at the 
same time. Then try going to the character setting. when you need to turn it 
off, you can toggle it with the two side arrow keys again.

HtH,
teresa

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On Jan 17, 2014, at 9:29 AM, regina alvarado  wrote:

> With quick nag on I hit left and up arrow to change to character to read by 
> letter. This did not work. How do I read by character? Thanks! 
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Re: Rotor setting not reading where it is set

2014-01-17 Thread Alex Hall

Most times, you can interact with the text you want to read and then use vo 
commands to read it character by character. A filename in Finder, for instance, 
is easily reviewed: interact until you can't anymore, then use vo-shift-right 
or left, or vo-w twice. I prefer this to Quicknav since I don't need to 
remember to turn anything off next time I go to use an arrow key or type 
something.
On Jan 17, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi, Regina,
> 
> the name of the feature is actually “quick nav” with a V as in Victor, short 
> for navigation. I love your phrase for it, though, as it does sometimes seem 
> that way to me. :)
> 
> Make sure quick nav is turned on by pressing left and right arrow keys at the 
> same time. Then try going to the character setting. when you need to turn it 
> off, you can toggle it with the two side arrow keys again.
> 
> HtH,
> teresa
> 
> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
> 
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 9:29 AM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
>> With quick nag on I hit left and up arrow to change to character to read by 
>> letter. This did not work. How do I read by character? Thanks! 
>> 
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Re: Selecting a bunch of items in Mavericks without having to select them all

Yes, it involves selecting the beginning or end of the area you want 
highlighted and holding the mouse down while you move it over your desired 
block of text or items. I’d imagine you could try this with VO and the 
mouse-dragging commands, or you might have better results with mouse keys on, 
which are independent of vO. Or the trackpad with keyboard-commander off might 
be a way to do this as well.

Teresa

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On Jan 17, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey Teresa,
> 
> Thanks, your search idea and selecting all might be the best way. I remember 
> when I could see there was a way to do this back in my windows days. It is 
> not a command I would use a lot, but every now and then.
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
>> I know of no method with the keyboard to mark the beginning and end of a 
>> selection area. You can try holding down shift-down-arrow, and then check 
>> your progress periodically by pressing VO-F6. Another way to do this might 
>> be to do a search in your library for Billy Joel, select all the resulting 
>> songs by pressing command-a, then make a playlist from your selection with 
>> command-shift-n.
>> 
>> htH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Hth,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
>> 
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> Is there a command to select the first item and then go down a bunch select 
>>> the last one and the command will select all the items in between the two 
>>> points? For example if I want to highlight all of my Billy Joel songs for a 
>>> playlist instead of clicking on 200 songs with VO command enter is there a 
>>> command to select the first and last one and by doing so it will highlight 
>>> everything between the first and last one. Thanks,
>>> 
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Serious Mail Busy Problems in Mavericks All of the sudden

Hey listers,

Is anyone else experiencing serious mail busy busy busy problems in Mavericks 
classic view mail mode? Over the last two days mail has become almost unusable, 
with me having to constantly quit mail to stop the busy busy and sluggishness. 
It just started again while writing this message. I haven’t changed any 
settings, so not sure where this could have come from and what can be causing 
it. Also what’s with messages taking so long to load as I am constantly getting 
VO saying empty scroll area where the text of an email should be and eventually 
the text appears there. Is there anything setting wise I might be able to 
change, as mail has become pretty unusable. And now VO has completely stopped 
working with mail but every other application is fine absolutely no speech with 
mail all of the sudden as it usually reads characters and words, and now there 
is nothing   

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What is the intonation?

2014-01-17 Thread Daniel McGee

Hi all, I understand what the pitch is in the VO utility but could someone 
explain what does the intonation do when changed?

Thank you

Daniel  

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Re: Serious Mail Busy Problems in Mavericks All of the sudden

HI.

am not experiencing a lot of busy mail problems and usually if I do quitting 
mail resolves this for a very long time.  I hope you can find a solution to 
this problem.
Warm regards and blessings 
Maria, Joe and FurBabies
Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com



On 18 Jan 2014, at 5:40 am, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey listers,
> 
> Is anyone else experiencing serious mail busy busy busy problems in Mavericks 
> classic view mail mode? Over the last two days mail has become almost 
> unusable, with me having to constantly quit mail to stop the busy busy and 
> sluggishness. It just started again while writing this message. I haven’t 
> changed any settings, so not sure where this could have come from and what 
> can be causing it. Also what’s with messages taking so long to load as I am 
> constantly getting VO saying empty scroll area where the text of an email 
> should be and eventually the text appears there. Is there anything setting 
> wise I might be able to change, as mail has become pretty unusable. And now 
> VO has completely stopped working with mail but every other application is 
> fine absolutely no speech with mail all of the sudden as it usually reads 
> characters and words, and now there is nothing   
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Re: What is the intonation?

intonation is how much expression the voice has, how much it rises and falls. 
If you set it to 0, you get a robot voice.

Teresa

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> Hi all, I understand what the pitch is in the VO utility but could someone 
> explain what does the intonation do when changed?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Daniel  
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Re: O.t flip4mac pro question

2014-01-17 Thread Andrew Lamanche

Hi Chris,

Thank you very much for this. 

Andrew

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Re: PDF Pen

2014-01-17 Thread Eugenia Firth

Ok, Nic. Go ahead and send it to me off list, and I'll see what happens when I 
try it. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Jan 17, 2014, at 12:16 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> HI Gigi,
> 
> I was using PDFPen. I downloaded the trial version of PDFPen Pro, and at 
> first it seemed to be exactly the same. VoiceOver could see the text areas, 
> but I couldn't seem to type text into them. Then I noticed that although 
> VoiceOver wasn't reading the text I typed, it appeared to be showing on 
> screen. I could bring the mouse pointer, and although VoiceOver wouldn't 
> announce any typed text under the mouse pointer, if I do a control click with 
> the TrackPad it offers to look up the word I typed or offers spelling 
> suggestions if I typed gibberish. So seems I can type, but the typed text is 
> invisible to VoiceOver. Also, when I am focussed on the text areas, VoiceOver 
> announces keyboard focus to be on "empty scroll area".
> 
> I might email you the form off list and see if we can get anywhere. Just 
> thought I'd send this on the list in case anyone else becomes interested in 
> this issue.
> 
> Thanks,
> Nic
> 
> On 15 Jan 2014, at 1:10 pm, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there
>> Did you download the pro version of PDF pen? I just realized that that may 
>> be the difference. I have the pro version on my computer. When I did the 
>> 1040, I was not having those problems. If you want, can you send me the file 
>> off list and I'll see if I can make it work.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Gigi,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for that. I downloaded the trial from their website.
>>> 
>>> I tried reading a PDF I know has been made into an editable/fillable form 
>>> with screen readers in mind. It works with JAWS on Windows and I believe it 
>>> was probably created with Adobe software. In PDFPen VoiceOver could see and 
>>> would read out the form fields, but the text areas would not be editable. 
>>> So VoiceOver would say, for instance, "Date edit text", but if I tried 
>>> typing nothing would happen.
>>> 
>>> Is there some trick to being able to fill in these forms? I noticed a whole 
>>> heap of unlabelled buttons and checkboxes, and thought perhaps I need to 
>>> configure one of these. If it's just that the form I'm using doesn't have 
>>> what PDFPen and VoiceOver require, do you know what the magic ingredient is?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nic
>>> 
>>> P.S. I tried the above on both Mavericks and Mountain Lion.
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Stanza not opening epub book in Mavericks

2014-01-17 Thread Andrew Lamanche

Listers,

Has anybody had problems with Stanza opening epub books in Mavericks? I have an 
epub book which when I try to open it in Stanza in order to convert it into a 
.rtf gives me an error message about something or other missing in the archive. 
The error message is so long and complex that I didn’t think it would help to 
copy it here. Is there any other application that would open and read an epub 
book? I need to read it with the braille display because its language is not 
supported by any voice in Mac. Also, I need to read it very carefully and 
slowly. Any ideas?

Andrew

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Re: Serious Mail Busy Problems in Mavericks All of the sudden

What was it about 15 minutes since I sent the message and I quit mail and was 
using it again and again the busy busy problems, and yes, I have restarted my 
computer and still the same problems. Very frustrating.
On Jan 17, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman  
wrote:

> HI.
> 
> am not experiencing a lot of busy mail problems and usually if I do quitting 
> mail resolves this for a very long time.  I hope you can find a solution to 
> this problem.
> Warm regards and blessings 
> Maria, Joe and FurBabies
> Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 18 Jan 2014, at 5:40 am, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey listers,
>> 
>> Is anyone else experiencing serious mail busy busy busy problems in 
>> Mavericks classic view mail mode? Over the last two days mail has become 
>> almost unusable, with me having to constantly quit mail to stop the busy 
>> busy and sluggishness. It just started again while writing this message. I 
>> haven’t changed any settings, so not sure where this could have come from 
>> and what can be causing it. Also what’s with messages taking so long to load 
>> as I am constantly getting VO saying empty scroll area where the text of an 
>> email should be and eventually the text appears there. Is there anything 
>> setting wise I might be able to change, as mail has become pretty unusable. 
>> And now VO has completely stopped working with mail but every other 
>> application is fine absolutely no speech with mail all of the sudden as it 
>> usually reads characters and words, and now there is nothing   
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Re: Serious Mail Busy Problems in Mavericks All of the sudden

Hi.

I wonder if repairing permissions would help?


Maria and Joe Chapman
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On 18 Jan 2014, at 6:05 am, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> What was it about 15 minutes since I sent the message and I quit mail and was 
> using it again and again the busy busy problems, and yes, I have restarted my 
> computer and still the same problems. Very frustrating.
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman  
> wrote:
> 
>> HI.
>> 
>> am not experiencing a lot of busy mail problems and usually if I do quitting 
>> mail resolves this for a very long time.  I hope you can find a solution to 
>> this problem.
>> Warm regards and blessings 
>> Maria, Joe and FurBabies
>> Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 18 Jan 2014, at 5:40 am, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey listers,
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else experiencing serious mail busy busy busy problems in 
>>> Mavericks classic view mail mode? Over the last two days mail has become 
>>> almost unusable, with me having to constantly quit mail to stop the busy 
>>> busy and sluggishness. It just started again while writing this message. I 
>>> haven’t changed any settings, so not sure where this could have come from 
>>> and what can be causing it. Also what’s with messages taking so long to 
>>> load as I am constantly getting VO saying empty scroll area where the text 
>>> of an email should be and eventually the text appears there. Is there 
>>> anything setting wise I might be able to change, as mail has become pretty 
>>> unusable. And now VO has completely stopped working with mail but every 
>>> other application is fine absolutely no speech with mail all of the sudden 
>>> as it usually reads characters and words, and now there is nothing   
>>> 
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Re: Stanza not opening epub book in Mavericks

Is it a protected epub book, such as iBooks or Nook? You can’t read iBooks or 
Nook in Stanza.

Teresa

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On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Listers,
> 
> Has anybody had problems with Stanza opening epub books in Mavericks? I have 
> an epub book which when I try to open it in Stanza in order to convert it 
> into a .rtf gives me an error message about something or other missing in the 
> archive. The error message is so long and complex that I didn’t think it 
> would help to copy it here. Is there any other application that would open 
> and read an epub book? I need to read it with the braille display because its 
> language is not supported by any voice in Mac. Also, I need to read it very 
> carefully and slowly. Any ideas?
> 
> Andrew
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Re: OT: FW: GW Micro Announces Global Window-Eyes Initiative for users of Microsoft Office

HI.  this is a good start, but it still doesn’t make a windows computer truly 
accessible out of the box.  I did this with an iPhone but I think it applies to 
all apple products.  My brother left his iPhone in the house, and went out.  He 
called me from a friends phone and asked me to go in to his call history and 
look for a person’s name.  I was to call or text them and let them know where 
he was and that I had his phone so they could find him. I was able to ask siri 
to turn on voice over and go from there.  Just like I can pretty much get voice 
over to work on any mac without installing or downloading anything.
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On 15 Jan 2014, at 7:30 am, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> I wonder why they never chose Jaws, as that is more popular than Windoweyes 
> isn’t it or have I got that the wrong way round.  Why don’t they make 
> Microsoft accessible with Voice Over, then they would be really committed to 
> accessibility! 
> On 14 Jan 2014, at 20:02, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> I think I will have to use NVDA portable to download Windows Eye lol.
>> 
>> My question is, do you get free updates? Or is it that you will have to pay 
>> for upgrades? Also what does this do to the native Narrator?
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Chris H  wrote:
>> 
>>> How about via Bootcamp or Fusion?
>>> 
>>> Regards Chris
>>> 
>>> On 14/01/2014 19:55, Chris Blouch wrote:
 "…to enable anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use
 Window-Eyes for free"
 
 Wow, anyone using MS Office 2010 or later can use WindowEyes? Wonder how
 they got it working on OSX?
 
 CB
 
 On 1/14/14 2:45 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I know this is a bit off topic, but I thought it of general tech
> interest, and also that it might be of personal interest to some.
> Just to tie in with Apple and the Mac, seems to me that this is
> Microsoft's attempt to catch up with Apple and provide a more
> sophisticated free screen reading  option.
> cheers,
> Donna
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded message>
>> *Date:* January 14, 2014 at 1:29:44 PM
>>> 
>> *Subject:* *OT: FW: GW Micro Announces Global Window-Eyes Initiative
>> for users of Microsoft Office*
>> 
>> Jan-14-2014
>> 
>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>> 
>> Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc.
>> (www.gwmicro.com ) is
>> proud to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft
>> Corp. have partnered to make Window-Eyes available to users of
>> Microsoft Office at no cost. Window-Eyes is a screen reader that
>> enables people who are blind, visually impaired, or print disabled to
>> have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer accessible via
>> speech and/or Braille.
>> 
>> To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW
>> Micro and Microsoft have collaborated on this global initiative,
>> available in over 15 languages, to enable anyone using Microsoft
>> Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for free.  Access to
>> technology is critical to people who are blind or visually impaired
>> in order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As
>> such, this initiative between GW Micro and Microsoft has the
>> potential to reduce barriers for millions of people who are blind or
>> visually impaired around the world.
>> 
>> As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become
>> more and more important as the number of people with age-related
>> macular degeneration and other retinal degenerative diseases
>> increases. "This significant change in the way we are doing business
>> reflects the changing perception of accessibility and also technology
>> in general.  Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and
>> GW Micro are leading the way," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of
>> Sales and Marketing for GW Micro.  Weirich believes this technology
>> can help millions of people gain access to their PC, and that
>> providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of assistive
>> technology to many people.
>> 
>> In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically,
>> the changing face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW
>> Micro and Microsoft have the goal of providing accessibility to
>> people who are blind and visually impaired for the long term.
>> 
>> Microsoft continues to take accessibility seriously.

Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

  Hi.

Just had another thought.  This might be a good thing for those of us looking 
for volunteer work.  If we can use window eyes as long as they have office 2010 
or later on their system.  How well does window eyes and office work together I 
wonder?
Warm regards and blessings 
Maria, Joe and FurBabies
Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com



On 15 Jan 2014, at 6:21 am, Bill Holton  wrote:

> Jan-14-2014
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com) is 
> proud
> to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp. have 
> partnered
> to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost. 
> Window-Eyes
> is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually impaired, or 
> print
> disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer accessible 
> via
> speech and/or Braille.
> To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro and 
> Microsoft
> have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15 languages, 
> to enable
> anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for free.
> Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually impaired 
> in
> order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As such, this 
> initiative
> between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers for 
> millions
> of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world.
> As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more and 
> more important
> as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and other 
> retinal degenerative
> diseases increases. "
> This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the 
> changing perception
> of accessibility and also technology in general.
>   Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are 
> leading the
> way
> ," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW Micro.
> Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain access to 
> their
> PC, and that providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of 
> assistive
> technology to many people.
> In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically, the 
> changing
> face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW Micro and Microsoft 
> have
> the goal of providing accessibility to people who are blind and visually 
> impaired
> for the long term.
> Microsoft continues to take accessibility seriously.
> “By partnering with GW Micro in this endeavor we are demonstrating 
> Microsoft’s ongoing
> commitment to provide all of our customers with the technology and tools to 
> help
> each person be productive in both their work and personal lives.”
> said Rob Sinclair, Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft.
> Eligible customers, using Microsoft Office 2010 or higher, will be able to 
> download
> a full version of Window-Eyes starting today at
> www.WindowEyesForOffice.com
> .
> The website provides download instructions as well as additional details 
> about this
> offer.
> GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com) has been a trusted pioneer in the adaptive 
> technology
> industry since 1990, and continues to lead with innovative, customer driven 
> solutions.
> Contact:
> Dan Weirich, VP of Sales and Marketing
> d...@gwmicro.com
> (260) 489-3671
> ###
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Re: Serious Mail Busy Problems in Mavericks All of the sudden

What does repairing permissions do, is that in the system utility? Do I need to 
be concerned with repairing permissions changing anything else on my system? 
Thanks,
On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman  
wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I wonder if repairing permissions would help?
> 
> 
> Maria and Joe Chapman
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 18 Jan 2014, at 6:05 am, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> What was it about 15 minutes since I sent the message and I quit mail and 
>> was using it again and again the busy busy problems, and yes, I have 
>> restarted my computer and still the same problems. Very frustrating.
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> HI.
>>> 
>>> am not experiencing a lot of busy mail problems and usually if I do 
>>> quitting mail resolves this for a very long time.  I hope you can find a 
>>> solution to this problem.
>>> Warm regards and blessings 
>>> Maria, Joe and FurBabies
>>> Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 Jan 2014, at 5:40 am, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey listers,
 
 Is anyone else experiencing serious mail busy busy busy problems in 
 Mavericks classic view mail mode? Over the last two days mail has become 
 almost unusable, with me having to constantly quit mail to stop the busy 
 busy and sluggishness. It just started again while writing this message. I 
 haven’t changed any settings, so not sure where this could have come from 
 and what can be causing it. Also what’s with messages taking so long to 
 load as I am constantly getting VO saying empty scroll area where the text 
 of an email should be and eventually the text appears there. Is there 
 anything setting wise I might be able to change, as mail has become pretty 
 unusable. And now VO has completely stopped working with mail but every 
 other application is fine absolutely no speech with mail all of the sudden 
 as it usually reads characters and words, and now there is nothing   
 
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Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

2014-01-17 Thread Alex Hall

I haven't followed this thread very closely, so I'm sorry if this has come up. 
You seem to be forgetting about NVDA, a free screen reader that has very good 
Office support and can also be scripted. A common complaint about NVDA is that 
people don't like Espeak, the synthesizer it comes with, but a blog post I read 
said that Window-Eyes will also come with Espeak in this deal. So, the idea 
that this Window-Eyes offer opens more doors seems odd, since NVDA is already 
available, no matter which version of office you have, or if you don't have 
Office at all. Some comments I've heard even suggest that Window-Eyes does not 
offer very good Office support compared to other screen readers.
On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman  
wrote:

>   Hi.
> 
> Just had another thought.  This might be a good thing for those of us looking 
> for volunteer work.  If we can use window eyes as long as they have office 
> 2010 or later on their system.  How well does window eyes and office work 
> together I wonder?
> Warm regards and blessings 
> Maria, Joe and FurBabies
> Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 15 Jan 2014, at 6:21 am, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
>> Jan-14-2014
>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>> Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com) is 
>> proud
>> to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp. have 
>> partnered
>> to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost. 
>> Window-Eyes
>> is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually impaired, or 
>> print
>> disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer 
>> accessible via
>> speech and/or Braille.
>> To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro and 
>> Microsoft
>> have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15 languages, 
>> to enable
>> anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for free.
>> Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually 
>> impaired in
>> order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As such, 
>> this initiative
>> between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers for 
>> millions
>> of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world.
>> As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more and 
>> more important
>> as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and other 
>> retinal degenerative
>> diseases increases. "
>> This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the 
>> changing perception
>> of accessibility and also technology in general.
>>   Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are 
>> leading the
>> way
>> ," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW Micro.
>> Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain access to 
>> their
>> PC, and that providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of 
>> assistive
>> technology to many people.
>> In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically, the 
>> changing
>> face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW Micro and Microsoft 
>> have
>> the goal of providing accessibility to people who are blind and visually 
>> impaired
>> for the long term.
>> Microsoft continues to take accessibility seriously.
>> “By partnering with GW Micro in this endeavor we are demonstrating 
>> Microsoft’s ongoing
>> commitment to provide all of our customers with the technology and tools to 
>> help
>> each person be productive in both their work and personal lives.”
>> said Rob Sinclair, Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft.
>> Eligible customers, using Microsoft Office 2010 or higher, will be able to 
>> download
>> a full version of Window-Eyes starting today at
>> www.WindowEyesForOffice.com
>> .
>> The website provides download instructions as well as additional details 
>> about this
>> offer.
>> GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com) has been a trusted pioneer in the adaptive 
>> technology
>> industry since 1990, and continues to lead with innovative, customer driven 
>> solutions.
>> Contact:
>> Dan Weirich, VP of Sales and Marketing
>> d...@gwmicro.com
>> (260) 489-3671
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Reading column and row titles automatically in Numbers

2014-01-17 Thread Vic

Hi.
I noticed that when creating new spreadsheet in Numbers, the column and row 
titles are read automatically. This, however, doesn't seem to be the case 
when when reading spreadsheets from other people, eg when they are imported 
from Excel.
Has anyone found a solution to this?

Thanks for any help.
Best,
Victor

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Dual Boot versus Virtual Machine

2014-01-17 Thread Robert C


Hi everyone,
   Just joined the list. Got a MacBook Pro recently, and will start 
training on it next week.


   First of many questions, but will not fire them off too quickly. I 
am switching from Windows 7 to the Mac. One program that is not yet 
supported by OS X Mountain Lion is Duxbury. I will keep the Windows 
laptop to run that and MS Office.


   I had asked Enabling Technologies, who makes the Juliet embosser, if 
the embosser will work connected via USB to the Mac with Windows on it. 
This is their response.


   "...in a dual boot environment rather than in a virtual machine. 
However, we have not tested this."


   Does this mean I cannot use VMWare for this? If so, will dual boot 
be accessible anyway? What is the difference between the two modes? I 
hope to get answers I can put to use during the training. Thanks.


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Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

2014-01-17 Thread Karen Lewellen

indeed? if this is a fully functional edition with all other programs, 
does not that mean the speech choices you would get with window eyes in 
general?  Why are they only offering  one synthesizer I wonder?

Kare

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, Alex Hall wrote:


I haven't followed this thread very closely, so I'm sorry if this has come up. 
You seem to be forgetting about NVDA, a free screen reader that has very good 
Office support and can also be scripted. A common complaint about NVDA is that 
people don't like Espeak, the synthesizer it comes with, but a blog post I read 
said that Window-Eyes will also come with Espeak in this deal. So, the idea 
that this Window-Eyes offer opens more doors seems odd, since NVDA is already 
available, no matter which version of office you have, or if you don't have 
Office at all. Some comments I've heard even suggest that Window-Eyes does not 
offer very good Office support compared to other screen readers.
On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman  
wrote:


  Hi.

Just had another thought.  This might be a good thing for those of us looking 
for volunteer work.  If we can use window eyes as long as they have office 2010 
or later on their system.  How well does window eyes and office work together I 
wonder?
Warm regards and blessings
Maria, Joe and FurBabies
Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com



On 15 Jan 2014, at 6:21 am, Bill Holton  wrote:


Jan-14-2014
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com) is 
proud
to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp. have 
partnered
to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost. 
Window-Eyes
is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually impaired, or 
print
disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer accessible 
via
speech and/or Braille.
To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro and 
Microsoft
have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15 languages, to 
enable
anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for free.
Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually impaired in
order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As such, this 
initiative
between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers for millions
of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world.
As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more and more 
important
as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and other retinal 
degenerative
diseases increases. "
This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the changing 
perception
of accessibility and also technology in general.
  Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are leading 
the
way
," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW Micro.
Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain access to 
their
PC, and that providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of 
assistive
technology to many people.
In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically, the 
changing
face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW Micro and Microsoft 
have
the goal of providing accessibility to people who are blind and visually 
impaired
for the long term.
Microsoft continues to take accessibility seriously.
“By partnering with GW Micro in this endeavor we are demonstrating Microsoft’s 
ongoing
commitment to provide all of our customers with the technology and tools to help
each person be productive in both their work and personal lives.”
said Rob Sinclair, Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft.
Eligible customers, using Microsoft Office 2010 or higher, will be able to 
download
a full version of Window-Eyes starting today at
www.WindowEyesForOffice.com
.
The website provides download instructions as well as additional details about 
this
offer.
GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com) has been a trusted pioneer in the adaptive 
technology
industry since 1990, and continues to lead with innovative, customer driven 
solutions.
Contact:
Dan Weirich, VP of Sales and Marketing
d...@gwmicro.com
(260) 489-3671
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Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

2014-01-17 Thread Buddy Brannan

Licensing costs, most likely. You will also get no free technical support 
beyond installation. 
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On Jan 17, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

> indeed? if this is a fully functional edition with all other programs, does 
> not that mean the speech choices you would get with window eyes in general?  
> Why are they only offering  one synthesizer I wonder?
> Kare
> 
> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> I haven't followed this thread very closely, so I'm sorry if this has come 
>> up. You seem to be forgetting about NVDA, a free screen reader that has very 
>> good Office support and can also be scripted. A common complaint about NVDA 
>> is that people don't like Espeak, the synthesizer it comes with, but a blog 
>> post I read said that Window-Eyes will also come with Espeak in this deal. 
>> So, the idea that this Window-Eyes offer opens more doors seems odd, since 
>> NVDA is already available, no matter which version of office you have, or if 
>> you don't have Office at all. Some comments I've heard even suggest that 
>> Window-Eyes does not offer very good Office support compared to other screen 
>> readers.
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>  Hi.
>>> 
>>> Just had another thought.  This might be a good thing for those of us 
>>> looking for volunteer work.  If we can use window eyes as long as they have 
>>> office 2010 or later on their system.  How well does window eyes and office 
>>> work together I wonder?
>>> Warm regards and blessings
>>> Maria, Joe and FurBabies
>>> Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 15 Jan 2014, at 6:21 am, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>> 
 Jan-14-2014
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Re: Dual Boot versus Virtual Machine

You can set up a mac to 'dual boot' where you partition your hard drive 
in two pieces with Windows on one and MacOS on the other. Then Apple's 
BootCamp tool lets you pick which one you want to start up. When running 
Windows this way it's no different than any other PC laptop and your 
Apple turns into one of the best high-end Windows machines. The downside 
is you have to be in Windows 'mode' or Mac 'mode' and the two do not 
share or talk to each other. So there should be no reason that any USB 
Windows device wouldn't be happy in that arrangement. That said, the 
more integrated approach is to use VMWare Fusion to emulate some PC 
hardware so you can essentially run Windows as an app on your Mac. While 
I haven't had the need to attach a lot of USB devices, usually when I do 
and VMWare is up and running it will ask if I want the newly attached 
USB device connected to the Mac side or the virtual Windows instance. I 
would think that if you chose Windows the Windows app running in the 
virtual windows would have no idea that it's not running on a real PC. 
Of course the virtualization is not always perfect but a lot of things 
seem to just work. Would probably be worth giving it a go with Fusion.


CB

On 1/17/14 4:16 PM, Robert C wrote:

Hi everyone,
Just joined the list. Got a MacBook Pro recently, and will start 
training on it next week.


First of many questions, but will not fire them off too quickly. I am 
switching from Windows 7 to the Mac. One program that is not yet 
supported by OS X Mountain Lion is Duxbury. I will keep the Windows 
laptop to run that and MS Office.


I had asked Enabling Technologies, who makes the Juliet embosser, if 
the embosser will work connected via USB to the Mac with Windows on 
it. This is their response.


"...in a dual boot environment rather than in a virtual machine. 
However, we have not tested this."


Does this mean I cannot use VMWare for this? If so, will dual boot be 
accessible anyway? What is the difference between the two modes? I 
hope to get answers I can put to use during the training. Thanks.


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Re: Dual Boot versus Virtual Machine

2014-01-17 Thread Robert C


Chris,
   Thanks. Have you used both modes? Since the Mac experience is new 
for me I want to do what works right the first time. I can keep using 
the Windows machine and have to until I find a Windows 7 dvd anyway, but 
it would be a tidy office here to have only one computer.


   I hope there will be further confirmation from others while I hunt 
for a dvd.


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On 1/17/2014 1:25 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

You can set up a mac to 'dual boot' where you partition your hard drive
in two pieces with Windows on one and MacOS on the other. Then Apple's
BootCamp tool lets you pick which one you want to start up. When running
Windows this way it's no different than any other PC laptop and your
Apple turns into one of the best high-end Windows machines. The downside
is you have to be in Windows 'mode' or Mac 'mode' and the two do not
share or talk to each other. So there should be no reason that any USB
Windows device wouldn't be happy in that arrangement. That said, the
more integrated approach is to use VMWare Fusion to emulate some PC
hardware so you can essentially run Windows as an app on your Mac. While
I haven't had the need to attach a lot of USB devices, usually when I do
and VMWare is up and running it will ask if I want the newly attached
USB device connected to the Mac side or the virtual Windows instance. I
would think that if you chose Windows the Windows app running in the
virtual windows would have no idea that it's not running on a real PC.
Of course the virtualization is not always perfect but a lot of things
seem to just work. Would probably be worth giving it a go with Fusion.

CB

On 1/17/14 4:16 PM, Robert C wrote:

Hi everyone,
Just joined the list. Got a MacBook Pro recently, and will start
training on it next week.

First of many questions, but will not fire them off too quickly. I am
switching from Windows 7 to the Mac. One program that is not yet
supported by OS X Mountain Lion is Duxbury. I will keep the Windows
laptop to run that and MS Office.

I had asked Enabling Technologies, who makes the Juliet embosser, if
the embosser will work connected via USB to the Mac with Windows on
it. This is their response.

"...in a dual boot environment rather than in a virtual machine.
However, we have not tested this."

Does this mean I cannot use VMWare for this? If so, will dual boot be
accessible anyway? What is the difference between the two modes? I
hope to get answers I can put to use during the training. Thanks.

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Re: Reading column and row titles automatically in Numbers

2014-01-17 Thread Eugenia Firth

Hi there 
Apple told me that the top row and the first first column are considered to be 
heading rows and columns by default, at least that's the way I understood it. 
Have you tried to change the file a little when you export it to have the 
labels set up that way? You can increase headers in Numbers also, and maybe 
that would make a difference. I have not tried this, so if you try it, you 
might want to make a copy of the file first. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Vic  wrote:

> Hi.
> I noticed that when creating new spreadsheet in Numbers, the column and row 
> titles are read automatically. This, however, doesn't seem to be the case 
> when when reading spreadsheets from other people, eg when they are imported 
> from Excel.
> Has anyone found a solution to this?
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> Best,
> Victor
> 
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Re: Dual Boot versus Virtual Machine

The little I do in Windows didn't require a dedicated Bootcamp setup so 
I've always used VMs. The other nice thing is the virtual windows hard 
drive is just a (large) file. So I keep a master copy around and if my 
running copy gets mangled somehow I just put it in the trash and clone 
another one from my original. There is also a 'snapshot' thing in VMWare 
which will let you keep a whole hierarchy of point in time stored so you 
can revert back. I haven't used that as I'm usually just testing stuff 
out on clean setups and then throwing them away. I also keep multiple 
VMs around for Windows XP, Vista, 7 and 8. That would be nearly 
impossible with a bootcamp setup.


CB

On 1/17/14 4:56 PM, Robert C wrote:

Chris,
Thanks. Have you used both modes? Since the Mac experience is new for 
me I want to do what works right the first time. I can keep using the 
Windows machine and have to until I find a Windows 7 dvd anyway, but 
it would be a tidy office here to have only one computer.


I hope there will be further confirmation from others while I hunt for 
a dvd.


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On 1/17/2014 1:25 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

You can set up a mac to 'dual boot' where you partition your hard drive
in two pieces with Windows on one and MacOS on the other. Then Apple's
BootCamp tool lets you pick which one you want to start up. When running
Windows this way it's no different than any other PC laptop and your
Apple turns into one of the best high-end Windows machines. The downside
is you have to be in Windows 'mode' or Mac 'mode' and the two do not
share or talk to each other. So there should be no reason that any USB
Windows device wouldn't be happy in that arrangement. That said, the
more integrated approach is to use VMWare Fusion to emulate some PC
hardware so you can essentially run Windows as an app on your Mac. While
I haven't had the need to attach a lot of USB devices, usually when I do
and VMWare is up and running it will ask if I want the newly attached
USB device connected to the Mac side or the virtual Windows instance. I
would think that if you chose Windows the Windows app running in the
virtual windows would have no idea that it's not running on a real PC.
Of course the virtualization is not always perfect but a lot of things
seem to just work. Would probably be worth giving it a go with Fusion.

CB

On 1/17/14 4:16 PM, Robert C wrote:

Hi everyone,
Just joined the list. Got a MacBook Pro recently, and will start
training on it next week.

First of many questions, but will not fire them off too quickly. I am
switching from Windows 7 to the Mac. One program that is not yet
supported by OS X Mountain Lion is Duxbury. I will keep the Windows
laptop to run that and MS Office.

I had asked Enabling Technologies, who makes the Juliet embosser, if
the embosser will work connected via USB to the Mac with Windows on
it. This is their response.

"...in a dual boot environment rather than in a virtual machine.
However, we have not tested this."

Does this mean I cannot use VMWare for this? If so, will dual boot be
accessible anyway? What is the difference between the two modes? I
hope to get answers I can put to use during the training. Thanks.

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Re: Dual Boot versus Virtual Machine

Hello all,

I would like to add. On top of this. If you are looking at other Options other 
than Duxbury, you can use Libre and install the OBT2 extention and that can 
translate. I have seen that on a Windows side, but I have not seen it on the 
Mac side since I don’t have an embosser.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 17, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> The little I do in Windows didn't require a dedicated Bootcamp setup so I've 
> always used VMs. The other nice thing is the virtual windows hard drive is 
> just a (large) file. So I keep a master copy around and if my running copy 
> gets mangled somehow I just put it in the trash and clone another one from my 
> original. There is also a 'snapshot' thing in VMWare which will let you keep 
> a whole hierarchy of point in time stored so you can revert back. I haven't 
> used that as I'm usually just testing stuff out on clean setups and then 
> throwing them away. I also keep multiple VMs around for Windows XP, Vista, 7 
> and 8. That would be nearly impossible with a bootcamp setup.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/17/14 4:56 PM, Robert C wrote:
>> Chris,
>> Thanks. Have you used both modes? Since the Mac experience is new for me I 
>> want to do what works right the first time. I can keep using the Windows 
>> machine and have to until I find a Windows 7 dvd anyway, but it would be a 
>> tidy office here to have only one computer.
>> 
>> I hope there will be further confirmation from others while I hunt for a dvd.
>> 
>> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
>> Oxymoron: A stripper's dressing room
>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
>> E-mail-
>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On 1/17/2014 1:25 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> You can set up a mac to 'dual boot' where you partition your hard drive
>>> in two pieces with Windows on one and MacOS on the other. Then Apple's
>>> BootCamp tool lets you pick which one you want to start up. When running
>>> Windows this way it's no different than any other PC laptop and your
>>> Apple turns into one of the best high-end Windows machines. The downside
>>> is you have to be in Windows 'mode' or Mac 'mode' and the two do not
>>> share or talk to each other. So there should be no reason that any USB
>>> Windows device wouldn't be happy in that arrangement. That said, the
>>> more integrated approach is to use VMWare Fusion to emulate some PC
>>> hardware so you can essentially run Windows as an app on your Mac. While
>>> I haven't had the need to attach a lot of USB devices, usually when I do
>>> and VMWare is up and running it will ask if I want the newly attached
>>> USB device connected to the Mac side or the virtual Windows instance. I
>>> would think that if you chose Windows the Windows app running in the
>>> virtual windows would have no idea that it's not running on a real PC.
>>> Of course the virtualization is not always perfect but a lot of things
>>> seem to just work. Would probably be worth giving it a go with Fusion.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 1/17/14 4:16 PM, Robert C wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 Just joined the list. Got a MacBook Pro recently, and will start
 training on it next week.
 
 First of many questions, but will not fire them off too quickly. I am
 switching from Windows 7 to the Mac. One program that is not yet
 supported by OS X Mountain Lion is Duxbury. I will keep the Windows
 laptop to run that and MS Office.
 
 I had asked Enabling Technologies, who makes the Juliet embosser, if
 the embosser will work connected via USB to the Mac with Windows on
 it. This is their response.
 
 "...in a dual boot environment rather than in a virtual machine.
 However, we have not tested this."
 
 Does this mean I cannot use VMWare for this? If so, will dual boot be
 accessible anyway? What is the difference between the two modes? I
 hope to get answers I can put to use during the training. Thanks.
 
 Quote of the nanosecond . . .
 "You can pretend to be serious; you can’t pretend to be witty."
 --Sacha Guitry (1885-1957)
 Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
 E-mail-
 gone.to.da...@gmail.com
 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Dual Boot versus Virtual Machine

One question, in unity mode, in VMWare Fusion, do you risk any virus from the 
Windows side to run into the mac side? It could be configured for Windows OS 
and Mac OSX? Is it maybe best to keep Windows fun in Windows in shell  mode  or 
what i can call it? 

Take care

17. jan. 2014 kl. 22:25 skrev Chris Blouch :

You can set up a mac to 'dual boot' where you partition your hard drive in two 
pieces with Windows on one and MacOS on the other. Then Apple's BootCamp tool 
lets you pick which one you want to start up. When running Windows this way 
it's no different than any other PC laptop and your Apple turns into one of the 
best high-end Windows machines. The downside is you have to be in Windows 
'mode' or Mac 'mode' and the two do not share or talk to each other. So there 
should be no reason that any USB Windows device wouldn't be happy in that 
arrangement. That said, the more integrated approach is to use VMWare Fusion to 
emulate some PC hardware so you can essentially run Windows as an app on your 
Mac. While I haven't had the need to attach a lot of USB devices, usually when 
I do and VMWare is up and running it will ask if I want the newly attached USB 
device connected to the Mac side or the virtual Windows instance. I would think 
that if you chose Windows the Windows app running in the virtual windows would 
have no idea that it's not running on a real PC. Of course the virtualization 
is not always perfect but a lot of things seem to just work. Would probably be 
worth giving it a go with Fusion.

CB

On 1/17/14 4:16 PM, Robert C wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> Just joined the list. Got a MacBook Pro recently, and will start training on 
> it next week.
> 
> First of many questions, but will not fire them off too quickly. I am 
> switching from Windows 7 to the Mac. One program that is not yet supported by 
> OS X Mountain Lion is Duxbury. I will keep the Windows laptop to run that and 
> MS Office.
> 
> I had asked Enabling Technologies, who makes the Juliet embosser, if the 
> embosser will work connected via USB to the Mac with Windows on it. This is 
> their response.
> 
> "...in a dual boot environment rather than in a virtual machine. However, we 
> have not tested this."
> 
> Does this mean I cannot use VMWare for this? If so, will dual boot be 
> accessible anyway? What is the difference between the two modes? I hope to 
> get answers I can put to use during the training. Thanks.
> 
> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
> "You can pretend to be serious; you can’t pretend to be witty."
> --Sacha Guitry (1885-1957)
> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
> E-mail-
> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
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Re: Dual Boot versus Virtual Machine

Do you only need to make a copy of the original Windows by clicking command + c 
and store it on a free space? Then throw it in the trash and copy it back with 
command + c and paste it into the virtual machine folder again? That would be 
fantastic in a way, because we are sort of talking about a windows computer.

Take care

17. jan. 2014 kl. 23:21 skrev Chris Blouch :

The little I do in Windows didn't require a dedicated Bootcamp setup so I've 
always used VMs. The other nice thing is the virtual windows hard drive is just 
a (large) file. So I keep a master copy around and if my running copy gets 
mangled somehow I just put it in the trash and clone another one from my 
original. There is also a 'snapshot' thing in VMWare which will let you keep a 
whole hierarchy of point in time stored so you can revert back. I haven't used 
that as I'm usually just testing stuff out on clean setups and then throwing 
them away. I also keep multiple VMs around for Windows XP, Vista, 7 and 8. That 
would be nearly impossible with a bootcamp setup.

CB

On 1/17/14 4:56 PM, Robert C wrote:
> Chris,
> Thanks. Have you used both modes? Since the Mac experience is new for me I 
> want to do what works right the first time. I can keep using the Windows 
> machine and have to until I find a Windows 7 dvd anyway, but it would be a 
> tidy office here to have only one computer.
> 
> I hope there will be further confirmation from others while I hunt for a dvd.
> 
> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
> Oxymoron: A stripper's dressing room
> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
> E-mail-
> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
> 
> On 1/17/2014 1:25 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> You can set up a mac to 'dual boot' where you partition your hard drive
>> in two pieces with Windows on one and MacOS on the other. Then Apple's
>> BootCamp tool lets you pick which one you want to start up. When running
>> Windows this way it's no different than any other PC laptop and your
>> Apple turns into one of the best high-end Windows machines. The downside
>> is you have to be in Windows 'mode' or Mac 'mode' and the two do not
>> share or talk to each other. So there should be no reason that any USB
>> Windows device wouldn't be happy in that arrangement. That said, the
>> more integrated approach is to use VMWare Fusion to emulate some PC
>> hardware so you can essentially run Windows as an app on your Mac. While
>> I haven't had the need to attach a lot of USB devices, usually when I do
>> and VMWare is up and running it will ask if I want the newly attached
>> USB device connected to the Mac side or the virtual Windows instance. I
>> would think that if you chose Windows the Windows app running in the
>> virtual windows would have no idea that it's not running on a real PC.
>> Of course the virtualization is not always perfect but a lot of things
>> seem to just work. Would probably be worth giving it a go with Fusion.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 1/17/14 4:16 PM, Robert C wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> Just joined the list. Got a MacBook Pro recently, and will start
>>> training on it next week.
>>> 
>>> First of many questions, but will not fire them off too quickly. I am
>>> switching from Windows 7 to the Mac. One program that is not yet
>>> supported by OS X Mountain Lion is Duxbury. I will keep the Windows
>>> laptop to run that and MS Office.
>>> 
>>> I had asked Enabling Technologies, who makes the Juliet embosser, if
>>> the embosser will work connected via USB to the Mac with Windows on
>>> it. This is their response.
>>> 
>>> "...in a dual boot environment rather than in a virtual machine.
>>> However, we have not tested this."
>>> 
>>> Does this mean I cannot use VMWare for this? If so, will dual boot be
>>> accessible anyway? What is the difference between the two modes? I
>>> hope to get answers I can put to use during the training. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
>>> "You can pretend to be serious; you can’t pretend to be witty."
>>> --Sacha Guitry (1885-1957)
>>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
>>> E-mail-
>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
>>> 
>> 
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Re: questions about preview and braille

2014-01-17 Thread Caitlyn and Maggie

thanks!
right after I wrote in asking what the roter was on the mac, I had a light bulb 
moment and went to the track pad!  Don’t know why I didn’t think of that 
before, but thanks, this does help a bunch!
Cait

On Jan 17, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
wrote:

> Ok, I use the trackpad for this, since I’m am more used to the IOS editing.
> 
> If you turn on trackpad commander you can use rotor to select character, 
> word, line, etc. when you interact with a text you can select one of the 
> rotor options and use the down arrow. So you can skip by character, word, 
> line etc. This method is also used for editing and copying and paste.
> 
> I’m not sure this method is the best way to do things, but this is the way I 
> find most helpful.
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
> 2.3 Quad-core i7
> 4GB DDR3
> 500GB HDD
> 
> Dual Boot:
> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
> 
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
> wrote:
> 
>> Daniel,
>> Um.. thanks.
>> 
>> However, how do you do the roter command on a mac?  Or is this the vo u 
>> thing?
>> 
>> Cait
>> 
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> This tip works in both Preview and Text Edit. When you go to the program go 
>>> right untill you get to the text feild and interact, now do the rotor 
>>> command and navigate with character, words, or lines, or paragraph, so when 
>>> you switch from one app to the next it will remember the last place.
>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>> 
>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>>> 4GB DDR3
>>> 500GB HDD
>>> 
>>> Dual Boot:
>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 I have been reading a file in preview.  I have another file open in text 
 edit and have to switch between the two files.
 
 Everything is fine until I have to return to preview.  when I do, my place 
 isn’t kep and it goes back to the beginning of the section I originally 
 did a find command for to begin reading the file.
 
 Is there a way to keep my place in preview?  Does Skim work better for 
 this?
 
 thanks!
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Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

Speech Syntherzises is very important for my self i.e. the choice of installing 
from developers. This is a very bad mistake by GW Micro. Free speech!!

Take care

17. jan. 2014 kl. 22:22 skrev Buddy Brannan :

Licensing costs, most likely. You will also get no free technical support 
beyond installation. 
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On Jan 17, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

> indeed? if this is a fully functional edition with all other programs, does 
> not that mean the speech choices you would get with window eyes in general?  
> Why are they only offering  one synthesizer I wonder?
> Kare
> 
> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> I haven't followed this thread very closely, so I'm sorry if this has come 
>> up. You seem to be forgetting about NVDA, a free screen reader that has very 
>> good Office support and can also be scripted. A common complaint about NVDA 
>> is that people don't like Espeak, the synthesizer it comes with, but a blog 
>> post I read said that Window-Eyes will also come with Espeak in this deal. 
>> So, the idea that this Window-Eyes offer opens more doors seems odd, since 
>> NVDA is already available, no matter which version of office you have, or if 
>> you don't have Office at all. Some comments I've heard even suggest that 
>> Window-Eyes does not offer very good Office support compared to other screen 
>> readers.
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> Just had another thought.  This might be a good thing for those of us 
>>> looking for volunteer work.  If we can use window eyes as long as they have 
>>> office 2010 or later on their system.  How well does window eyes and office 
>>> work together I wonder?
>>> Warm regards and blessings
>>> Maria, Joe and FurBabies
>>> Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 15 Jan 2014, at 6:21 am, Bill Holton  wrote:
>>> 
 Jan-14-2014
 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com) 
 is proud
 to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp. have 
 partnered
 to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost. 
 Window-Eyes
 is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually impaired, 
 or print
 disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer 
 accessible via
 speech and/or Braille.
 To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro and 
 Microsoft
 have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15 
 languages, to enable
 anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for 
 free.
 Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually 
 impaired in
 order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As such, 
 this initiative
 between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers for 
 millions
 of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world.
 As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more and 
 more important
 as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and other 
 retinal degenerative
 diseases increases. "
 This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the 
 changing perception
 of accessibility and also technology in general.
 Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are 
 leading the
 way
 ," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW Micro.
 Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain access 
 to their
 PC, and that providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of 
 assistive
 technology to many people.
 In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically, the 
 changing
 face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW Micro and 
 Microsoft have
 the goal of providing accessibility to people who are blind and visually 
 impaired
 for the long term.
 Microsoft continues to take accessibility seriously.
 “By partnering with GW Micro in this endeavor we are demonstrating 
 Microsoft’s ongoing
 commitment to provide all of our customers with the technology and tools 
 to help
 each person be productive in both their work and personal lives.”
 said Rob Sinclair, Chief Accessibility Officer for Microsoft.
 Eligible customers, using Microsoft Office 2010 or higher, will be able to 
 download
 a full version of Window-Eyes starting today at
 www.WindowEyesForOffice.com
 .
 The website provides download instructions as well as additional details 
 about this
 offer.
 GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com) has been a trusted pioneer in the 
 adaptive technolog

Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

2014-01-17 Thread Eileens Misrahi

Hi All,

I just want to point out that I have had a paid copy of Window-Eyes for a few 
years. Last year though, if I wanted the Vocalizer voices I needed to pay for 
them. Also, I listened to  a recent podcast from GW micro on how to get started 
with the WE version for Office and it was mentioned in there that other 
synthesizers could be purchased. I am taking a wait and see approach on how all 
this will play out. I provide training to my clients in all areas of vision 
rehab, so this could be advantagious for those I service who require a screen 
reader. JMO.

Best,
Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 17, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:

> Speech Syntherzises is very important for my self i.e. the choice of 
> installing from developers. This is a very bad mistake by GW Micro. Free 
> speech!!
> 
> Take care
> 
> 17. jan. 2014 kl. 22:22 skrev Buddy Brannan :
> 
> Licensing costs, most likely. You will also get no free technical support 
> beyond installation. 
> --
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> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
>> indeed? if this is a fully functional edition with all other programs, does 
>> not that mean the speech choices you would get with window eyes in general?  
>> Why are they only offering  one synthesizer I wonder?
>> Kare
>> 
>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't followed this thread very closely, so I'm sorry if this has come 
>>> up. You seem to be forgetting about NVDA, a free screen reader that has 
>>> very good Office support and can also be scripted. A common complaint about 
>>> NVDA is that people don't like Espeak, the synthesizer it comes with, but a 
>>> blog post I read said that Window-Eyes will also come with Espeak in this 
>>> deal. So, the idea that this Window-Eyes offer opens more doors seems odd, 
>>> since NVDA is already available, no matter which version of office you 
>>> have, or if you don't have Office at all. Some comments I've heard even 
>>> suggest that Window-Eyes does not offer very good Office support compared 
>>> to other screen readers.
>>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi.
 
 Just had another thought.  This might be a good thing for those of us 
 looking for volunteer work.  If we can use window eyes as long as they 
 have office 2010 or later on their system.  How well does window eyes and 
 office work together I wonder?
 Warm regards and blessings
 Maria, Joe and FurBabies
 Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On 15 Jan 2014, at 6:21 am, Bill Holton  wrote:
 
> Jan-14-2014
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc. (www.gwmicro.com) 
> is proud
> to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp. have 
> partnered
> to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost. 
> Window-Eyes
> is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually impaired, 
> or print
> disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer 
> accessible via
> speech and/or Braille.
> To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro 
> and Microsoft
> have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15 
> languages, to enable
> anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes for 
> free.
> Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually 
> impaired in
> order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As such, 
> this initiative
> between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers for 
> millions
> of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world.
> As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more 
> and more important
> as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and other 
> retinal degenerative
> diseases increases. "
> This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the 
> changing perception
> of accessibility and also technology in general.
> Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are 
> leading the
> way
> ," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW Micro.
> Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain access 
> to their
> PC, and that providing it free of charge will open a whole new world of 
> assistive
> technology to many people.
> In light of the rapidly changing face of technology and specifically, the 
> changing
> face of assistive technology, the combined efforts of GW Micro and 
> Microsoft have
> the goal of providing accessibility to people who are blind and visually 
> impaired
> for the long

Re: Serious Mail Busy Problems in Mavericks All of the sudden

It will not solve the problem in long terms, but command + f5 and command + f5 
to reset voice over should help in short terms. I have to use this in 
Finereader Pro, very often. Irritating.

Take care


17. jan. 2014 kl. 20:59 skrev Brian Fischler :

What does repairing permissions do, is that in the system utility? Do I need to 
be concerned with repairing permissions changing anything else on my system? 
Thanks,
On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman  
wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I wonder if repairing permissions would help?
> 
> 
> Maria and Joe Chapman
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 18 Jan 2014, at 6:05 am, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> What was it about 15 minutes since I sent the message and I quit mail and 
>> was using it again and again the busy busy problems, and yes, I have 
>> restarted my computer and still the same problems. Very frustrating.
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> HI.
>>> 
>>> am not experiencing a lot of busy mail problems and usually if I do 
>>> quitting mail resolves this for a very long time.  I hope you can find a 
>>> solution to this problem.
>>> Warm regards and blessings 
>>> Maria, Joe and FurBabies
>>> Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 Jan 2014, at 5:40 am, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey listers,
 
 Is anyone else experiencing serious mail busy busy busy problems in 
 Mavericks classic view mail mode? Over the last two days mail has become 
 almost unusable, with me having to constantly quit mail to stop the busy 
 busy and sluggishness. It just started again while writing this message. I 
 haven’t changed any settings, so not sure where this could have come from 
 and what can be causing it. Also what’s with messages taking so long to 
 load as I am constantly getting VO saying empty scroll area where the text 
 of an email should be and eventually the text appears there. Is there 
 anything setting wise I might be able to change, as mail has become pretty 
 unusable. And now VO has completely stopped working with mail but every 
 other application is fine absolutely no speech with mail all of the sudden 
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bootcamp question, apparently win7 drivers are unavailable?

2014-01-17 Thread Matt Dierckens

Hey all.
I tried to install windows 7 on my mac with bootcamp. I’m running an early 2011 
macbook Pro with 10.9.1.
I got the message saying that it couldn’t download the win7 software from the 
software update server. Is there anything I can do? I want to try bootcamp 
instead of VMware.
Thanks.

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Re: bootcamp question, apparently win7 drivers are unavailable?

You need to format your usb device as a FAT32 file format. You can do this in 
disk utility by hitting command + space and type disk utility. You find your 
drive in the side panel and tab to delete, chose FAT format and a name and tab 
to delete key. Let me know if this works, cause i have problems with this 
version of Mountain Lion and a Passport external. Bootcamp says it cannot make 
a bootable device. I have done it once before, but deleted the boot camp to 
make a new. Now it will not make a bootable usb device. Have tried both with 
LaCie and Passport. OSX can read and write to them because they are from OSX to 
FAT and reverse. Let me know if you have luck and wich OS you are running.

Soon i will try with a Mountain Lion wthout updates.

Take care

18. jan. 2014 kl. 00:47 skrev Matt Dierckens :

Hey all.
I tried to install windows 7 on my mac with bootcamp. I’m running an early 2011 
macbook Pro with 10.9.1.
I got the message saying that it couldn’t download the win7 software from the 
software update server. Is there anything I can do? I want to try bootcamp 
instead of VMware.
Thanks.

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Re: Teamspeak3 accessibility

2014-01-17 Thread Phil Halton

I just downloaded and tried out the stable version of TeamSpeak, and couldn't 
get past the setup wizard screen. In fact, I couldn't even command Q the app - 
had to force quit. It seemed completely inaccessible to me.
The windows version works fine, but I was hoping to have a mac option as well. 
It ain't looking' good!

On Jan 17, 2014, at 9:41 AM, David Taylor  wrote:

> Hi, that doesn't have the beta on it as far as I can tell though, so this 
> doesn't answer my question.
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 17 Jan 2014, at 14:31, isaac  wrote:
> 
>> Here is the link to the team speak downloads for mac 
>> http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 8:25 AM, David Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Seems you have to fill in a capture to search their forums. Is there a link 
>>> to a download file you can send to the list, or is it a case of get the 
>>> main client first and upgrade to the beta from within it?
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> On 17 Jan 2014, at 14:23, isaac  wrote:
>>> 
 Team speak and team talk are useable for the blind. On the mac platform 
 team speak has some issues with accessibility. You can’t move from channel 
 to channel on the server but for the most part  it is useable.
 On Jan 17, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
> I'm totally unfamiliar with teamspeak and/or team talk. Does this mean 
> they are usable or unusable for the blind?
> . 
> On Jan 16, 2014, at 4:25 AM, Piotr Machacz  wrote:
> 
>> the stable version of teamspeak works as well as team talk. That is, 
>> everything is accessible except the chat and channel tree. There is, 
>> however, a teamspeak 3 beta you can update to (instructions on their 
>> forums), which uses QT 5. This makes the channel tree accessible.
>> On 16 Jan 2014, at 05:37 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> I received an invite to a chat room using the TeamSpeak3 client. I see 
>>> that there is a Mac version and am wondering if its accessible with VO? 
>>> I also have a Windows VM and am pretty sure I can use the TeamSpeak 
>>> windows client with no problem. But, I'd like to give it a try on the 
>>> mac if possible. Anyone using this client on the mac?
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Re: Reading column and row titles automatically in Numbers

2014-01-17 Thread Kevin Shaw

Whenever I create a new sheet in Numbers, the first thing I do is turn off 
header rows and columns. Right click on the header row and column and set 
header rows and columns to 0.

>From that point on, you should hear standard spreadsheet coordinates when 
>navigating around. A1, B1, C1, etc. 

HTH,
Kevin
On 2014-01-17, at 5:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi there 
> Apple told me that the top row and the first first column are considered to 
> be heading rows and columns by default, at least that's the way I understood 
> it. Have you tried to change the file a little when you export it to have the 
> labels set up that way? You can increase headers in Numbers also, and maybe 
> that would make a difference. I have not tried this, so if you try it, you 
> might want to make a copy of the file first. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Vic  wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> I noticed that when creating new spreadsheet in Numbers, the column and row 
>> titles are read automatically. This, however, doesn't seem to be the case 
>> when when reading spreadsheets from other people, eg when they are imported 
>> from Excel.
>> Has anyone found a solution to this?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Best,
>> Victor
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Re: questions about preview and braille

No prob, did it work for you?
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 17, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
wrote:

> thanks!
> right after I wrote in asking what the roter was on the mac, I had a light 
> bulb moment and went to the track pad!  Don’t know why I didn’t think of that 
> before, but thanks, this does help a bunch!
> Cait
> 
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Ok, I use the trackpad for this, since I’m am more used to the IOS editing.
>> 
>> If you turn on trackpad commander you can use rotor to select character, 
>> word, line, etc. when you interact with a text you can select one of the 
>> rotor options and use the down arrow. So you can skip by character, word, 
>> line etc. This method is also used for editing and copying and paste.
>> 
>> I’m not sure this method is the best way to do things, but this is the way I 
>> find most helpful.
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> 
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Daniel,
>>> Um.. thanks.
>>> 
>>> However, how do you do the roter command on a mac?  Or is this the vo u 
>>> thing?
>>> 
>>> Cait
>>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all,
 
 This tip works in both Preview and Text Edit. When you go to the program 
 go right untill you get to the text feild and interact, now do the rotor 
 command and navigate with character, words, or lines, or paragraph, so 
 when you switch from one app to the next it will remember the last place.
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7
 4GB DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
 
 On Jan 17, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie 
  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> I have been reading a file in preview.  I have another file open in text 
> edit and have to switch between the two files.
> 
> Everything is fine until I have to return to preview.  when I do, my 
> place isn’t kep and it goes back to the beginning of the section I 
> originally did a find command for to begin reading the file.
> 
> Is there a way to keep my place in preview?  Does Skim work better for 
> this?
> 
> thanks!
> Caitlyn
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RE: Serious Mail Busy Problems in Mavericks All of the sudden

2014-01-17 Thread wayne17a

Hi you could try a pram reset by shutting down your mac and then
holding down the cmd and option key with the letters p and r and then hold
the power button down entill you hear four sets of chime hope this helps 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 2:06 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Serious Mail Busy Problems in Mavericks All of the sudden

What was it about 15 minutes since I sent the message and I quit mail and
was using it again and again the busy busy problems, and yes, I have
restarted my computer and still the same problems. Very frustrating.
On Jan 17, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman 
wrote:

> HI.
> 
> am not experiencing a lot of busy mail problems and usually if I do
quitting mail resolves this for a very long time.  I hope you can find a
solution to this problem.
> Warm regards and blessings 
> Maria, Joe and FurBabies
> Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 18 Jan 2014, at 5:40 am, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey listers,
>> 
>> Is anyone else experiencing serious mail busy busy busy problems in
Mavericks classic view mail mode? Over the last two days mail has become
almost unusable, with me having to constantly quit mail to stop the busy
busy and sluggishness. It just started again while writing this message. I
haven't changed any settings, so not sure where this could have come from
and what can be causing it. Also what's with messages taking so long to load
as I am constantly getting VO saying empty scroll area where the text of an
email should be and eventually the text appears there. Is there anything
setting wise I might be able to change, as mail has become pretty unusable.
And now VO has completely stopped working with mail but every other
application is fine absolutely no speech with mail all of the sudden as it
usually reads characters and words, and now there is nothing   
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Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

2014-01-17 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse

i am kinda wondering what they will gain by doing it like that?
Not that i will ever have too find out, the absolutely only thing i
use windows for is scanning , when done i can copy paste it over in
textedit directly.
I have thought long and hard over if i really needed something newer
than xp for OC'ring and stuff like that, and i simply can't justify
it, not right now at least.



Sandi


On 1/17/14, Eileens Misrahi  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I just want to point out that I have had a paid copy of Window-Eyes for a
> few years. Last year though, if I wanted the Vocalizer voices I needed to
> pay for them. Also, I listened to  a recent podcast from GW micro on how to
> get started with the WE version for Office and it was mentioned in there
> that other synthesizers could be purchased. I am taking a wait and see
> approach on how all this will play out. I provide training to my clients in
> all areas of vision rehab, so this could be advantagious for those I service
> who require a screen reader. JMO.
>
> Best,
> Eileen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Terje Strømberg 
> wrote:
>
>> Speech Syntherzises is very important for my self i.e. the choice of
>> installing from developers. This is a very bad mistake by GW Micro. Free
>> speech!!
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> 17. jan. 2014 kl. 22:22 skrev Buddy Brannan :
>>
>> Licensing costs, most likely. You will also get no free technical support
>> beyond installation.
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Karen Lewellen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> indeed? if this is a fully functional edition with all other programs,
>>> does not that mean the speech choices you would get with window eyes in
>>> general?  Why are they only offering  one synthesizer I wonder?
>>> Kare
>>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>
 I haven't followed this thread very closely, so I'm sorry if this has
 come up. You seem to be forgetting about NVDA, a free screen reader that
 has very good Office support and can also be scripted. A common
 complaint about NVDA is that people don't like Espeak, the synthesizer
 it comes with, but a blog post I read said that Window-Eyes will also
 come with Espeak in this deal. So, the idea that this Window-Eyes offer
 opens more doors seems odd, since NVDA is already available, no matter
 which version of office you have, or if you don't have Office at all.
 Some comments I've heard even suggest that Window-Eyes does not offer
 very good Office support compared to other screen readers.
 On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman
  wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Just had another thought.  This might be a good thing for those of us
> looking for volunteer work.  If we can use window eyes as long as they
> have office 2010 or later on their system.  How well does window eyes
> and office work together I wonder?
> Warm regards and blessings
> Maria, Joe and FurBabies
> Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On 15 Jan 2014, at 6:21 am, Bill Holton  wrote:
>
>> Jan-14-2014
>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>> Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc.
>> (www.gwmicro.com) is proud
>> to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp.
>> have partnered
>> to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost.
>> Window-Eyes
>> is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually
>> impaired, or print
>> disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer
>> accessible via
>> speech and/or Braille.
>> To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro
>> and Microsoft
>> have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15
>> languages, to enable
>> anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes
>> for free.
>> Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually
>> impaired in
>> order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As
>> such, this initiative
>> between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers
>> for millions
>> of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world.
>> As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more
>> and more important
>> as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and
>> other retinal degenerative
>> diseases increases. "
>> This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the
>> changing perception
>> of accessibility and also technology in general.
>> Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are
>> leading the
>> way
>> ," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW
>> Micro.
>> Weirich believ

help with mail

2014-01-17 Thread Antonio Guimaraes

Dear list members,

I have tried to deal for weeks with my gmail account not working with Apple 
Mail. I don’t know what could be the matter. I spent hours with the people at 
the Mac Accessibility Support line, and took two trips to an Apple store with 
iMac in toe.

My issues with mail have not been resolved, and I am resigned to the fact they 
will not until possibly the next upgrade to the operating system.

I am not able to receive any messages from my google address into the mail app.

I’ve tried playing with other mail apps, but have not been satisfied with the 
results.

Thunderbird setup seems inaccessible. Eudora no longer runs on the Mac.

I am now trying my hand at Mail Pilot, and have issues with it as well.

I would appreciate it if list members would message me directly if they have 
suggestions about alternatives ti Apple mail. Maybe I’m missing something with 
the Thundergbird install, or maybe you are using Mail Pilot with great success.

If so, I’d love to hear from you.

I am asking for direct responses since I have so much trouble getting to my 
filtered messages to all my lists, including this one.

Sincerely,

Antonio Guimaraes

freethau...@gmail.com

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Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

I wonder why they went with WindowEyes. Maybe less outcry when the #3 
gets picked for inclusion. As it normally goes for $900 a pop I could 
see MS giving them $9 each which would be made up for in quantity. Last 
WebAIM survey had Primary Screen Reader use with Jaws at 49%, WindowEyes 
at 12% and Voiceover at 9%. NVDA was actually second with nearly 14%.


http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey4/#primary

CB

On 1/17/14 8:59 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse wrote:

i am kinda wondering what they will gain by doing it like that?
Not that i will ever have too find out, the absolutely only thing i
use windows for is scanning , when done i can copy paste it over in
textedit directly.
I have thought long and hard over if i really needed something newer
than xp for OC'ring and stuff like that, and i simply can't justify
it, not right now at least.



Sandi


On 1/17/14, Eileens Misrahi  wrote:

Hi All,

I just want to point out that I have had a paid copy of Window-Eyes for a
few years. Last year though, if I wanted the Vocalizer voices I needed to
pay for them. Also, I listened to  a recent podcast from GW micro on how to
get started with the WE version for Office and it was mentioned in there
that other synthesizers could be purchased. I am taking a wait and see
approach on how all this will play out. I provide training to my clients in
all areas of vision rehab, so this could be advantagious for those I service
who require a screen reader. JMO.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 17, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Terje Strømberg 
wrote:


Speech Syntherzises is very important for my self i.e. the choice of
installing from developers. This is a very bad mistake by GW Micro. Free
speech!!

Take care

17. jan. 2014 kl. 22:22 skrev Buddy Brannan :

Licensing costs, most likely. You will also get no free technical support
beyond installation.
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Jan 17, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Karen Lewellen 
wrote:


indeed? if this is a fully functional edition with all other programs,
does not that mean the speech choices you would get with window eyes in
general?  Why are they only offering  one synthesizer I wonder?
Kare

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, Alex Hall wrote:


I haven't followed this thread very closely, so I'm sorry if this has
come up. You seem to be forgetting about NVDA, a free screen reader that
has very good Office support and can also be scripted. A common
complaint about NVDA is that people don't like Espeak, the synthesizer
it comes with, but a blog post I read said that Window-Eyes will also
come with Espeak in this deal. So, the idea that this Window-Eyes offer
opens more doors seems odd, since NVDA is already available, no matter
which version of office you have, or if you don't have Office at all.
Some comments I've heard even suggest that Window-Eyes does not offer
very good Office support compared to other screen readers.
On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman
 wrote:


Hi.

Just had another thought.  This might be a good thing for those of us
looking for volunteer work.  If we can use window eyes as long as they
have office 2010 or later on their system.  How well does window eyes
and office work together I wonder?
Warm regards and blessings
Maria, Joe and FurBabies
Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com



On 15 Jan 2014, at 6:21 am, Bill Holton  wrote:


Jan-14-2014
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Fort Wayne, Indiana (January 14, 2014) - GW Micro, Inc.
(www.gwmicro.com) is proud
to make a revolutionary announcement. GW Micro and Microsoft Corp.
have partnered
to make Window-Eyes available to users of Microsoft Office at no cost.
Window-Eyes
is a screen reader that enables people who are blind, visually
impaired, or print
disabled to have full access to Windows PCs and makes the computer
accessible via
speech and/or Braille.
To better deliver Window-Eyes to the people who need it most, GW Micro
and Microsoft
have collaborated on this global initiative, available in over 15
languages, to enable
anyone using Microsoft Office 2010 or later to also use Window-Eyes
for free.
Access to technology is critical to people who are blind or visually
impaired in
order to have the same opportunity to compete in the workplace. As
such, this initiative
between GW Micro and Microsoft has the potential to reduce barriers
for millions
of people who are blind or visually impaired around the world.
As the population ages, technologies like Window-Eyes will become more
and more important
as the number of people with age-related macular degeneration and
other retinal degenerative
diseases increases. "
This significant change in the way we are doing business reflects the
changing perception
of accessibility and also technology in general.
Rather than wait for the world to change, Microsoft and GW Micro are
leading the
way
," said Dan Weirich, Vice President of Sales and Marketing for GW
Micro.
Weirich believes this technology can help millions of people gain
acces

Re: Dual Boot versus Virtual Machine

Generally Windows viruses won't work on OSX so it's not like having a 
virtual windows box is going to add much risk. As a virtual windows 
machine it is just as susceptible to viruses as a real windows box. That 
also means you could create a document in Windows that is infected, use 
your Mac to send it, which won't do anything to your mac, and then 
infect a windows recipient. It's like the Mac is wearing an asbestos 
lined suit while passing along fireballs. Anyway, the only 
cross-platform viruses I've ever heard of were Word macro viruses but 
I'm not sure if those are still around much these days. Worst case is 
that some worm infects the virtual windows machine and formats its 
virtual drive, not your whole mac. The virtual machine is sort of 
playing in its own sandbox that keeps it from messing things up beyond 
the boundaries you've allowed it.


CB

On 1/17/14 5:50 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote:

One question, in unity mode, in VMWare Fusion, do you risk any virus from the 
Windows side to run into the mac side? It could be configured for Windows OS 
and Mac OSX? Is it maybe best to keep Windows fun in Windows in shell  mode  or 
what i can call it?

Take care

17. jan. 2014 kl. 22:25 skrev Chris Blouch :

You can set up a mac to 'dual boot' where you partition your hard drive in two 
pieces with Windows on one and MacOS on the other. Then Apple's BootCamp tool 
lets you pick which one you want to start up. When running Windows this way 
it's no different than any other PC laptop and your Apple turns into one of the 
best high-end Windows machines. The downside is you have to be in Windows 
'mode' or Mac 'mode' and the two do not share or talk to each other. So there 
should be no reason that any USB Windows device wouldn't be happy in that 
arrangement. That said, the more integrated approach is to use VMWare Fusion to 
emulate some PC hardware so you can essentially run Windows as an app on your 
Mac. While I haven't had the need to attach a lot of USB devices, usually when 
I do and VMWare is up and running it will ask if I want the newly attached USB 
device connected to the Mac side or the virtual Windows instance. I would think 
that if you chose Windows the Windows app running in the virtual windows would 
have no idea that it's not running on a real PC. Of course the virtualization 
is not always perfect but a lot of things seem to just work. Would probably be 
worth giving it a go with Fusion.

CB

On 1/17/14 4:16 PM, Robert C wrote:

Hi everyone,
Just joined the list. Got a MacBook Pro recently, and will start training on it 
next week.

First of many questions, but will not fire them off too quickly. I am switching 
from Windows 7 to the Mac. One program that is not yet supported by OS X 
Mountain Lion is Duxbury. I will keep the Windows laptop to run that and MS 
Office.

I had asked Enabling Technologies, who makes the Juliet embosser, if the 
embosser will work connected via USB to the Mac with Windows on it. This is 
their response.

"...in a dual boot environment rather than in a virtual machine. However, we have 
not tested this."

Does this mean I cannot use VMWare for this? If so, will dual boot be 
accessible anyway? What is the difference between the two modes? I hope to get 
answers I can put to use during the training. Thanks.

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Re: Dual Boot versus Virtual Machine

The virtual machine and all it's setting show up a a single big package 
file on OSX. I usually keep it on my desktop as VMWare doesn't seem to 
care where you stick it. So I can copy that file as many times as I want 
and throw them in the trash if I don't want a particular instance, just 
like any other document. Of course these things are big, usually 10GB or 
more, so you can run into disk space limitations. Just checked my one 
Win7 IE9 VMWare copy and it's taking up 30GB. Now there is some chance 
to 'compact' these virtual machine since the allocated disk space grows 
automagically but doesn't shrink back when you delete something. That's 
why I usually allocate a bunch of space up front (maybe 40GB) knowing 
that VMWare will only use as much as it needs to as I install Windows or 
apps on top of Windows.


CB

On 1/17/14 6:00 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote:

Do you only need to make a copy of the original Windows by clicking command + c 
and store it on a free space? Then throw it in the trash and copy it back with 
command + c and paste it into the virtual machine folder again? That would be 
fantastic in a way, because we are sort of talking about a windows computer.

Take care

17. jan. 2014 kl. 23:21 skrev Chris Blouch :

The little I do in Windows didn't require a dedicated Bootcamp setup so I've 
always used VMs. The other nice thing is the virtual windows hard drive is just 
a (large) file. So I keep a master copy around and if my running copy gets 
mangled somehow I just put it in the trash and clone another one from my 
original. There is also a 'snapshot' thing in VMWare which will let you keep a 
whole hierarchy of point in time stored so you can revert back. I haven't used 
that as I'm usually just testing stuff out on clean setups and then throwing 
them away. I also keep multiple VMs around for Windows XP, Vista, 7 and 8. That 
would be nearly impossible with a bootcamp setup.

CB

On 1/17/14 4:56 PM, Robert C wrote:

Chris,
Thanks. Have you used both modes? Since the Mac experience is new for me I want 
to do what works right the first time. I can keep using the Windows machine and 
have to until I find a Windows 7 dvd anyway, but it would be a tidy office here 
to have only one computer.

I hope there will be further confirmation from others while I hunt for a dvd.

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On 1/17/2014 1:25 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

You can set up a mac to 'dual boot' where you partition your hard drive
in two pieces with Windows on one and MacOS on the other. Then Apple's
BootCamp tool lets you pick which one you want to start up. When running
Windows this way it's no different than any other PC laptop and your
Apple turns into one of the best high-end Windows machines. The downside
is you have to be in Windows 'mode' or Mac 'mode' and the two do not
share or talk to each other. So there should be no reason that any USB
Windows device wouldn't be happy in that arrangement. That said, the
more integrated approach is to use VMWare Fusion to emulate some PC
hardware so you can essentially run Windows as an app on your Mac. While
I haven't had the need to attach a lot of USB devices, usually when I do
and VMWare is up and running it will ask if I want the newly attached
USB device connected to the Mac side or the virtual Windows instance. I
would think that if you chose Windows the Windows app running in the
virtual windows would have no idea that it's not running on a real PC.
Of course the virtualization is not always perfect but a lot of things
seem to just work. Would probably be worth giving it a go with Fusion.

CB

On 1/17/14 4:16 PM, Robert C wrote:

Hi everyone,
Just joined the list. Got a MacBook Pro recently, and will start
training on it next week.

First of many questions, but will not fire them off too quickly. I am
switching from Windows 7 to the Mac. One program that is not yet
supported by OS X Mountain Lion is Duxbury. I will keep the Windows
laptop to run that and MS Office.

I had asked Enabling Technologies, who makes the Juliet embosser, if
the embosser will work connected via USB to the Mac with Windows on
it. This is their response.

"...in a dual boot environment rather than in a virtual machine.
However, we have not tested this."

Does this mean I cannot use VMWare for this? If so, will dual boot be
accessible anyway? What is the difference between the two modes? I
hope to get answers I can put to use during the training. Thanks.

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Re: step by step, please and a recommendation on whether need to buy monitor

Piles of them here on newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=17679%20600012573&IsNodeId=1&Description=speakers&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

I have an ancient Altec Lansig set with a subwoofer which sounds quite
nice.

On 1/16/14 3:39 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

The Mini can definitely handle multiple bluetooth devices with no problem.
Wired speakers are everywhere, though - go to Best Buy or a similar store, or
hop on amazon and search for stereo computer speakers. My sister recently got a
set of speakers for $40 that sound great and have a very nice sub.

Open System Preferences and click Sound (if using VO, interact with the scroll area, type
sound until VO says "sound", and vow-space). Select the output tab, and choose
the option you want from the table. You can also lower the volume in this window, and
choose to have a volume control shown on the status menu bar (vo-m-m). If you only want
VO to go to a different sound device, open Voiceover utility with vo-f8, chosse sound
from the categories table, and choose the sound device you want from the popup menu.
On Jan 16, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Regina Alvarado wrote:

Here I am again asking same question as last night, but I need a step-by-step
of how to fix so I can lower speech and TV separately. would I be better to get
a monitor so there was no sound coming through it? If that is not important
which would cost me a lot for something I will never use, where do I attach
speakers so they will work independently. We ar struggling to find anything but
a speaker that is bluetooth, and no matter what I do to pair, it will not with
speaker and in the meantime my bluetooth keyboard is unpaired. I don't think
Mini can take more than one bluetooth device? Anyway, cannot do anything
learning on my Mini because only control I have is volume on TV remote. Any
help is more than deeply appreciated.

reggie and Allegra

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