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Thanks so much for that, but will it slow my machine?

And will I scan file by file as I do in windows? Or just an antivirus?

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric oyen
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 6:01 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: antivirus for mac, is it useful?

these days, common sense isn't enough. There are sites being infected with
multi-platform malicious code that can infect your machine on a "browse by"
session. Some flash on some sites can also infect your mac. We are no longer
the odd man out when it comes to malicious software of any kind (windows has
been losing the desktop/laptop market share for a long while now).

Most site operators either don't know or don't realize that their sites are
so vulnerable to attack (and very few even have the knowledge to secure
their sites). SO , as a result, infections among users of apple products has
been on the rise.

 One of the best ways to prevent infections is to make sure you have
adequate protection. This includes: a anti-virus package, a firewall and
backups of your system (just in case). 

SO far, the 2 best top a/v packages are: virus barrier and clamsav. Both are
accessible for the blind and both can be setup and configured for a variety
of tasks. There are several others, but their accessibility across platforms
for the blind is very limited.

Anyway, thats my take on the issue.

-eric

On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Personally I don't, but I think some people do, so it's up to you. Te best
protection of course is to use common sense.
> On Dec 26, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Ramy Moustafa 
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>> Hi all:
>> 
>> 
>> Is it useful to use antivirus for mac? Or it's far from viruses?
>> 
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RE: toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my hd

I need to have a partition for applications and another one for libraries,
etc

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Strife
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Subject: Re: toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my hd

Hi. Do you mean can you format external or other internal drives for
windows, or, can you partition the drive that windows is on? Which
one.




On 12/26/13, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> Thanks so much for this, but can I creat new drives inside windows? To
save
> my libraries on it?
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Strife
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:03 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my hd
>
> Hi.
>
> holding down the option key when you hear the startup sound will bring
> up your boot choices. Just right arrow or left arrow and then hit
> enter.
>
> In startup disk under system preferences on mac, and, the bootcamp
> control panel under windows, you can change your default startup disk.
>
> Cameron.
>
>
>
>
> On 12/26/13, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> Hi all:
>>
>> I'm using windows 64 bit on my mac mini, my question now, if I need to
>> choose hwen booting, must I need sited assistance or what?
>>
>> And, if I need to divide my hd through windows, is it possible/
>>
>> Thanks
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RE: antivirus for mac, is it useful?

Thanks so much for all your advices.

  _  

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tyler Thompson
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 1:16 AM
To: Mac Group
Subject: Re: antivirus for mac, is it useful?

I'd recommend downloading virusBarrier (from the app store). Mac's however
don't generally get Viruses. You have a small chance of getting one if you
download a lot of 3rd party apps that you can't find in the app store, past
that it's unlikely.

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wrote:

Hi all:

Is it useful to use antivirus for mac? Or it's far from viruses?

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Struggling as a low vision user of OS X

2013-12-27 Thread Byron J. Lee


Hey Guys,

I am really struggling as a low vision user of OS X. I know there is a 
free Zoom feature and VoiceOver is a lifesaver as usual, but I am a 
strange case when it comes to computing with limited vision. When I was 
young I never had ZoomText or anything in the Windows world. I was 
forced to adapt the computer to my needs on my own. I figured out a few 
tricks like using the Extra Large theme in Windows XP (this feature 
seems to be gone in Win7), lowering the resolution, DPI Scailing, and of 
course, using CTRL + and - inside Firefox. I've never been a fan of 
magnifying my screen because I am used to seeing everything on my screen 
all at once. I prefer making the text bigger and using magnification 
ONLY when there's a button or something that can't be modified and I 
can't see what it is.


Now I own a MacBook Air because Windows 8 was even harder to modify than 
Windows 7... and I don't see it getting any better. I think I made a 
poor decision on my Mac, an 11-inch MacBook Air. The screen is small and 
the text on it is tiny. I tried lowering the resolution but it doesn't 
go very low. Also, sighted people tell me that the lower resolution 
makes everything look like crap but I can't see the difference. I also 
tried changing the DPI scailing but apparently Apple doesn't allow you 
to do this without some developer tools like Xcode. I also tried a 
program called TinkerTool but it didn't seem to make a damn bit of a 
difference. I detected absolutely NO change after altering the settings.


I have figured out that Command + and - do change the text size on 
certain things like e-mail and messages... but its still not quite big 
enough for me. I also did a few things like turning on the feature that 
magnifies your Dock, and increase the size of icons on my desktop, but I 
have a very long way to go before everything looks right. Can anyone 
recommend a tool or a method of enlarging text on the Mac without using 
something like Zoom?


Thanks,
Byron

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superduper

Hi all:

I need to get a podcast for using superduper on mac.
I found 1 on blindcooltech, but it's ont working at all.

And, will it backup all my hd, including my bootcamp, windows etc?

Thanks

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Re: antivirus for mac, is it useful?

any A/V program set to scan on open will slow a machine down. you can set it up 
to scan on a schedule or only look at specific filetypes. I use clamsav on a 
once per week schedule here. most default settings are good enough for the 
casual user and shouldn't present too many problems.

-eric

On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:02 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

> Thanks so much for that, but will it slow my machine?
> 
> And will I scan file by file as I do in windows? Or just an antivirus?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric oyen
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 6:01 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: antivirus for mac, is it useful?
> 
> these days, common sense isn't enough. There are sites being infected with
> multi-platform malicious code that can infect your machine on a "browse by"
> session. Some flash on some sites can also infect your mac. We are no longer
> the odd man out when it comes to malicious software of any kind (windows has
> been losing the desktop/laptop market share for a long while now).
> 
> Most site operators either don't know or don't realize that their sites are
> so vulnerable to attack (and very few even have the knowledge to secure
> their sites). SO , as a result, infections among users of apple products has
> been on the rise.
> 
> One of the best ways to prevent infections is to make sure you have
> adequate protection. This includes: a anti-virus package, a firewall and
> backups of your system (just in case). 
> 
> SO far, the 2 best top a/v packages are: virus barrier and clamsav. Both are
> accessible for the blind and both can be setup and configured for a variety
> of tasks. There are several others, but their accessibility across platforms
> for the blind is very limited.
> 
> Anyway, thats my take on the issue.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
>> Personally I don't, but I think some people do, so it's up to you. Te best
> protection of course is to use common sense.
>> On Dec 26, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Ramy Moustafa 
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is it useful to use antivirus for mac? Or it's far from viruses?
>>> 
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Re: Clean install of Mavericks OSX 10.9.1

2013-12-27 Thread Ricardo Walker

Hi,

Honestly, I’m not even sure if you need to do a clean install now.  I personal 
rather just upgrade, and then if I find myself having a lot of inexplicable 
issues, I will go ahead an do a clean install.  But for the overwhelming 
majority of people, a clean install won’t be necessary.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:50 AM, Craig  wrote:

> Hello everyone.
> 
> I am about to take the plunge and update from mountain lion to Mavericks.
> 
> I will be doing a clean install.
> 
> 1.  Once I create the bootable disk, is it best to shut down the Mac and then 
> restart with the USB drive already inserted?
> 
> 2.   How would I know when to do command f5 to get voiceover started so that 
> I can work through the install process?
> 
> 3.  If and when OSX 10.9.2 is release, would I need to do another clean 
> install?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>
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Re: Struggling as a low vision user of OS X

I'm not a low-vision user, so forgive my ignorance. Why does Zoom not work? If 
you need the screen to be larger, then Zoom will do that. You can choose to 
magnify the window or whole screen, how big you want it, and so on. Does Zoom 
not enlarge things you need enlarged? Have you looked into AI Squared's screen 
enlargement program for the Mac? I believe it is called Zoomtext.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 7:06 AM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:

> Hey Guys,
> 
> I am really struggling as a low vision user of OS X. I know there is a free 
> Zoom feature and VoiceOver is a lifesaver as usual, but I am a strange case 
> when it comes to computing with limited vision. When I was young I never had 
> ZoomText or anything in the Windows world. I was forced to adapt the computer 
> to my needs on my own. I figured out a few tricks like using the Extra Large 
> theme in Windows XP (this feature seems to be gone in Win7), lowering the 
> resolution, DPI Scailing, and of course, using CTRL + and - inside Firefox. 
> I've never been a fan of magnifying my screen because I am used to seeing 
> everything on my screen all at once. I prefer making the text bigger and 
> using magnification ONLY when there's a button or something that can't be 
> modified and I can't see what it is.
> 
> Now I own a MacBook Air because Windows 8 was even harder to modify than 
> Windows 7... and I don't see it getting any better. I think I made a poor 
> decision on my Mac, an 11-inch MacBook Air. The screen is small and the text 
> on it is tiny. I tried lowering the resolution but it doesn't go very low. 
> Also, sighted people tell me that the lower resolution makes everything look 
> like crap but I can't see the difference. I also tried changing the DPI 
> scailing but apparently Apple doesn't allow you to do this without some 
> developer tools like Xcode. I also tried a program called TinkerTool but it 
> didn't seem to make a damn bit of a difference. I detected absolutely NO 
> change after altering the settings.
> 
> I have figured out that Command + and - do change the text size on certain 
> things like e-mail and messages... but its still not quite big enough for me. 
> I also did a few things like turning on the feature that magnifies your Dock, 
> and increase the size of icons on my desktop, but I have a very long way to 
> go before everything looks right. Can anyone recommend a tool or a method of 
> enlarging text on the Mac without using something like Zoom?
> 
> Thanks,
> Byron
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Re: editing audio tracks on the mac

I use Audacity all the time with no problem. You need to download it from 
audacity.sourceforge.net, not the App Store. However, once an audio file has 
been saved, there is really not much you can do to improve its quality. 
Normalizing affects volume, not quality, which is why you didn't notice much 
difference.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 2:34 AM, William Windels  wrote:

> Hello,
> I would like to edit audio tracks that contains speech from a phone-call.
> The quality is not that good so I want to make it better , if possible.
> 
> I have tried audacity but see not that difference  with the normalize option.
> But perhaps more important: I can't edit any preferences, can't see the 
> version and can't find a newer version in the app store.
> 
> So, is there a accessible (free) app for the mac to improve quality of 
> mp3-files?
> 
> kind regards,
> William Windels
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VO always focusing on the toolbar?

Hi all,
Yesterday, when I booted the Mac, VO started doing something odd: auto-focusing 
on the toolbar. If an app has a toolbar, it seems, VO jumps to it when the app 
is opened or switched to. I have never seen this before, and I have a feeling 
there is some screen or display setting that got changed somehow. Can anyone 
suggest anything I might try to fix this? Thanks.


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Re: VO always focusing on the toolbar?

2013-12-27 Thread Jessica D

yes, this happens to me too.

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> On Dec 27, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Yesterday, when I booted the Mac, VO started doing something odd: 
> auto-focusing on the toolbar. If an app has a toolbar, it seems, VO jumps to 
> it when the app is opened or switched to. I have never seen this before, and 
> I have a feeling there is some screen or display setting that got changed 
> somehow. Can anyone suggest anything I might try to fix this? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: antivirus for mac, is it useful?

2013-12-27 Thread Jessica D

is it free? how does it work with voiceover?

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> On Dec 26, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
> 
> I’d recommend downloading virusBarrier (from the app store). Mac’s however 
> don’t generally get Viruses. You have a small chance of getting one if you 
> download a lot of 3rd party apps that you can’t find in the app store, past 
> that it’s unlikely.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>> wrote:
>> 
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>> 
>> 
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Re: Struggling as a low vision user of OS X

2013-12-27 Thread Terje Strømberg

Zoom Text for mac is better i have read. I use Zoom Text, but have never 
bothered to try Zoom integrated in mac because Zoom Text works fine in co 
operation with Voice Over. Its best for you to read about Zoom Text for mac on 
aisquared.com Download a free trial and learn about it. I don't like their Web 
talking thing, because Voice Over works fine. You can turn the Web talking 
thing off by pressing vo+esc and select Zoom Text web or something.  

Take care

27. des. 2013 kl. 13:06 skrev Byron J. Lee :

Hey Guys,

I am really struggling as a low vision user of OS X. I know there is a free 
Zoom feature and VoiceOver is a lifesaver as usual, but I am a strange case 
when it comes to computing with limited vision. When I was young I never had 
ZoomText or anything in the Windows world. I was forced to adapt the computer 
to my needs on my own. I figured out a few tricks like using the Extra Large 
theme in Windows XP (this feature seems to be gone in Win7), lowering the 
resolution, DPI Scailing, and of course, using CTRL + and - inside Firefox. 
I've never been a fan of magnifying my screen because I am used to seeing 
everything on my screen all at once. I prefer making the text bigger and using 
magnification ONLY when there's a button or something that can't be modified 
and I can't see what it is.

Now I own a MacBook Air because Windows 8 was even harder to modify than 
Windows 7... and I don't see it getting any better. I think I made a poor 
decision on my Mac, an 11-inch MacBook Air. The screen is small and the text on 
it is tiny. I tried lowering the resolution but it doesn't go very low. Also, 
sighted people tell me that the lower resolution makes everything look like 
crap but I can't see the difference. I also tried changing the DPI scailing but 
apparently Apple doesn't allow you to do this without some developer tools like 
Xcode. I also tried a program called TinkerTool but it didn't seem to make a 
damn bit of a difference. I detected absolutely NO change after altering the 
settings.

I have figured out that Command + and - do change the text size on certain 
things like e-mail and messages... but its still not quite big enough for me. I 
also did a few things like turning on the feature that magnifies your Dock, and 
increase the size of icons on my desktop, but I have a very long way to go 
before everything looks right. Can anyone recommend a tool or a method of 
enlarging text on the Mac without using something like Zoom?

Thanks,
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Re: Struggling as a low vision user of OS X

2013-12-27 Thread Terje Strømberg

I mean option-command+esc to turn off the web reader eventually.

Take care

27. des. 2013 kl. 15:16 skrev Terje Strømberg :

Zoom Text for mac is better i have read. I use Zoom Text, but have never 
bothered to try Zoom integrated in mac because Zoom Text works fine in co 
operation with Voice Over. Its best for you to read about Zoom Text for mac on 
aisquared.com Download a free trial and learn about it. I don't like their Web 
talking thing, because Voice Over works fine. You can turn the Web talking 
thing off by pressing vo+esc and select Zoom Text web or something.  

Take care

27. des. 2013 kl. 13:06 skrev Byron J. Lee :

Hey Guys,

I am really struggling as a low vision user of OS X. I know there is a free 
Zoom feature and VoiceOver is a lifesaver as usual, but I am a strange case 
when it comes to computing with limited vision. When I was young I never had 
ZoomText or anything in the Windows world. I was forced to adapt the computer 
to my needs on my own. I figured out a few tricks like using the Extra Large 
theme in Windows XP (this feature seems to be gone in Win7), lowering the 
resolution, DPI Scailing, and of course, using CTRL + and - inside Firefox. 
I've never been a fan of magnifying my screen because I am used to seeing 
everything on my screen all at once. I prefer making the text bigger and using 
magnification ONLY when there's a button or something that can't be modified 
and I can't see what it is.

Now I own a MacBook Air because Windows 8 was even harder to modify than 
Windows 7... and I don't see it getting any better. I think I made a poor 
decision on my Mac, an 11-inch MacBook Air. The screen is small and the text on 
it is tiny. I tried lowering the resolution but it doesn't go very low. Also, 
sighted people tell me that the lower resolution makes everything look like 
crap but I can't see the difference. I also tried changing the DPI scailing but 
apparently Apple doesn't allow you to do this without some developer tools like 
Xcode. I also tried a program called TinkerTool but it didn't seem to make a 
damn bit of a difference. I detected absolutely NO change after altering the 
settings.

I have figured out that Command + and - do change the text size on certain 
things like e-mail and messages... but its still not quite big enough for me. I 
also did a few things like turning on the feature that magnifies your Dock, and 
increase the size of icons on my desktop, but I have a very long way to go 
before everything looks right. Can anyone recommend a tool or a method of 
enlarging text on the Mac without using something like Zoom?

Thanks,
Byron

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Re: superduper

2013-12-27 Thread Daniel Chavez

Hi there,
I use to do podcasts on Mac stuff. Since my server crashed back in June or so, 
most of my podcasts are gone. However, I will take the time to do a new podcast 
on SuperDooper.
As far as the hd goes, SuperDooper should backup the hole HD. From my 
experience, SuperDooper does pretty well, and makes your destination drive 
bootable, so you could boot off the destination drive.
My podcasts can be found at www.danielcproductions.net

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Re: VO always focusing on the toolbar?

I have seen this a few times, in general, it's best to disable the tool 
bars in applications. Most tool bar functions can be done with menus so 
you don't lose anything. This is one of the first things I do with a 
new application.

Original message:

Hi all,
Yesterday, when I booted the Mac, VO started doing something odd: 
auto-focusing on the toolbar. If an app has a toolbar, it seems, VO 
jumps to it when the app is opened or switched to. I have never seen 
this before, and I have a feeling there is some screen or display 
setting that got changed somehow. Can anyone suggest anything I might 
try to fix this? Thanks.




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Re: VO always focusing on the toolbar?

2013-12-27 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Alex,

This is a setting in VoiceOver Utility, Navigation category. Initial position 
of VoiceOver cursor: should be set to Keyboard focused item to avoid your 
problem.

Cheers,

Anne
 

On 27 Dec 2013, at 14:52, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Yesterday, when I booted the Mac, VO started doing something odd: 
> auto-focusing on the toolbar. If an app has a toolbar, it seems, VO jumps to 
> it when the app is opened or switched to. I have never seen this before, and 
> I have a feeling there is some screen or display setting that got changed 
> somehow. Can anyone suggest anything I might try to fix this? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
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Using a sig line in mail.

2013-12-27 Thread matthew dyer

Hi all.  I have a sig line I have created and I am trying to add it so that I 
can use it with a couple of accounts  here.  I go to the all  signatures and 
can see it there, but drag and drop does not seem to work.  Any ideas on how to 
do with out deleting and recreating the sig line?  Thanks.

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Re: Clean install of Mavericks OSX 10.9.1

2013-12-27 Thread Craig

I was thinking the same.But since I was having some issues with mail, I 
decided to do a clean install.


“1. Once I create the bootable disk, is it best to shut down the Mac and then 
restart with the USB drive already inserted?

2.How would I know when to do command f5 to get voiceover started so 
that I can work through the install process?


3.If and when OSX 10.9.2 is release, would I need to do another clean 
install?”






On 12/27/2013 8:04 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

Honestly, I’m not even sure if you need to do a clean install now.  I personal 
rather just upgrade, and then if I find myself having a lot of inexplicable 
issues, I will go ahead an do a clean install.  But for the overwhelming 
majority of people, a clean install won’t be necessary.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:50 AM, Craig  wrote:


Hello everyone.

I am about to take the plunge and update from mountain lion to Mavericks.

I will be doing a clean install.

1.  Once I create the bootable disk, is it best to shut down the Mac and then 
restart with the USB drive already inserted?

2.   How would I know when to do command f5 to get voiceover started so that I 
can work through the install process?

3.  If and when OSX 10.9.2 is release, would I need to do another clean install?

Thanks.



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Re: VO always focusing on the toolbar?

2013-12-27 Thread Ray Foret Jr

Funny thing about this is that in my Voice OVer preferences, I do have the 
keyboard focused item as the default choice, and yet, when ever I check for 
updates to the OS, always, I get focused on the tool bar.

Also, the search on the app store seems to not be focused on right away and so 
you need to direct it there.  This something anybody else noticed?


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Dec 27, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Alex,
> 
> This is a setting in VoiceOver Utility, Navigation category. Initial position 
> of VoiceOver cursor: should be set to Keyboard focused item to avoid your 
> problem.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 27 Dec 2013, at 14:52, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Yesterday, when I booted the Mac, VO started doing something odd: 
>> auto-focusing on the toolbar. If an app has a toolbar, it seems, VO jumps to 
>> it when the app is opened or switched to. I have never seen this before, and 
>> I have a feeling there is some screen or display setting that got changed 
>> somehow. Can anyone suggest anything I might try to fix this? Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Advantages and dis-advantages of the compact and HQ voices of Voiceover

2013-12-27 Thread Daniel McGee

Hi everyone, thanks for all your feedback on how you use the voices.
Sean, I particularly like the way you described how you use the voice.
It makes sense.
You see, in the Windows world when using another screenreader I was able to 
speed up the void up to 30% and still understand it. I kind of want to do that 
but am a bit frustrated I can’t in case I’ll miss some important information.
Oh well, guess one can’t run before they can walk. lol
To Mike, at around what percentage do you use for your voices on your Mac to 
listen to speech at a leisurely pace?

Again, thanks to everyone who has provided there input!

Daniel
On 24 Dec 2013, at 06:11, Shawn AKA BBS  wrote:

> Hi Daniel. For me when I use the Nuance voices, I use the premium version of 
> the Australian Karen voice. I love the way Nuance tweeked her voice to sound 
> more human with Vocalizer Expressive. I wish they would do the same for the 
> male Australian voice, Lee, or if since Nuance is adding Loquendo voices to 
> Vocalizer Expressive, replace Lee with Allan since he sounds way better than 
> Lee. As for speech rate, I don't like to speed up the voice past the rate 
> that's in their samples because it sounds unnatural when you do that.
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Re: "Apple submenu" message, gets quite annoying...

2013-12-27 Thread Phil Halton

I wonder if you have the mouse set to "announce when mouse enters window" in VO 
settings?
look in the navigation pane  of VO settings for this checkbox and clear it if 
it is checked. 
On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Vic  wrote:

> Hello everyone.
> From a couple of days ago I am getting the "Apple submenu" message from 
> VOiceOver when typing or performing other actions on my Mac.
> Does anyone know where I should look to eliminate this? Where may this 
> message come from?
> 
> Thanks for any pointers and ideas.
> Best,
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Re: Clean install of Mavericks OSX 10.9.1

2013-12-27 Thread Daniel Chavez

Once the bootable disk is created, you could always go the apple menu and click 
on restart. Make sure the bootable disk is inserted when you click restart.
When you boot into the boot disk, give it about a minute or two, then you can 
do CMD plus F5

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Re: VO always focusing on the toolbar?

My focus is already set to that. I've seen this once before, but have no idea 
how I got rid of it. I could disable the toolbar, of course, but I'd rather 
not. Usually, if nothing else, it holds a search field. Besides, would that 
really help, or would vo just pick another random spot on which to set focus? 
I've restarted a couple times, and also just restarted vo itself, but nothing.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Alex,
> 
> This is a setting in VoiceOver Utility, Navigation category. Initial position 
> of VoiceOver cursor: should be set to Keyboard focused item to avoid your 
> problem.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 27 Dec 2013, at 14:52, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Yesterday, when I booted the Mac, VO started doing something odd: 
>> auto-focusing on the toolbar. If an app has a toolbar, it seems, VO jumps to 
>> it when the app is opened or switched to. I have never seen this before, and 
>> I have a feeling there is some screen or display setting that got changed 
>> somehow. Can anyone suggest anything I might try to fix this? Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: "Apple submenu" message, gets quite annoying...

2013-12-27 Thread Jessica D

Hi have this checked, it does not do this to me. Must be something weird with 
your system.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 27, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if you have the mouse set to "announce when mouse enters window" in 
> VO settings?
> look in the navigation pane  of VO settings for this checkbox and clear it if 
> it is checked. 
>> On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Vic  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone.
>> From a couple of days ago I am getting the "Apple submenu" message from 
>> VOiceOver when typing or performing other actions on my Mac.
>> Does anyone know where I should look to eliminate this? Where may this 
>> message come from?
>> 
>> Thanks for any pointers and ideas.
>> Best,
>> Vic
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Re: Using a sig line in mail.

2013-12-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak

Oh, this is something I hate! I've had the same problem and a couple of times 
when I've upgraded all my signatures have gone over to All Signatures! It's 
extremely irritating! I found a description of how you are supposed to be able 
to drag and drop the signatures but have never been able to get it to work with 
voiceover. At least signatures doesn't crash mail when you try to add one! 
There was a long period of time when that happened.

The least painful way to get the signature where you want it that I have found 
is to select and copy the text, then make sure you are on the account where you 
want the signature in the table that shows all signatures and your accounts. Do 
vo-space on add and then paste the text from the signature you created into the 
text field; erase the default stuff if you don't want it. I've posted on 
various lists over and over about this and have never found a way to simply 
copy or move my signatures. For a while there was a way to do it by 
manipulating things in your signatures folders in the actual Mail directory but 
at some point an upgrade seems to have made that not work either.

-- 
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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

On Dec 27, 2013, at 9:13 AM, matthew dyer  wrote:

> Hi all.  I have a sig line I have created and I am trying to add it so that I 
> can use it with a couple of accounts  here.  I go to the all  signatures and 
> can see it there, but drag and drop does not seem to work.  Any ideas on how 
> to do with out deleting and recreating the sig line?  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
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Re: VO always focusing on the toolbar?

You might try going in to display in system preferences, and make sure 
the resolution has not been changed to an odd setting.

Original message:
My focus is already set to that. I've seen this once before, but have 
no idea how I got rid of it. I could disable the toolbar, of course, 
but I'd rather not. Usually, if nothing else, it holds a search field. 
Besides, would that really help, or would vo just pick another random 
spot on which to set focus? I've restarted a couple times, and also 
just restarted vo itself, but nothing.

On Dec 27, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:



Hello Alex,


This is a setting in VoiceOver Utility, Navigation category. Initial 
position of VoiceOver cursor: should be set to Keyboard focused item to 
avoid your problem.



Cheers,



Anne




On 27 Dec 2013, at 14:52, Alex Hall  wrote:



Hi all,
Yesterday, when I booted the Mac, VO started doing something odd: 
auto-focusing on the toolbar. If an app has a toolbar, it seems, VO 
jumps to it when the app is opened or switched to. I have never seen 
this before, and I have a feeling there is some screen or display 
setting that got changed somehow. Can anyone suggest anything I might 
try to fix this? Thanks.




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Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my hd

2013-12-27 Thread Cameron Strife

That sort of configuration would be a very poor choice. As I said, you
really want two hard drives. Keep in mind that you can install a
second internal drive in your mac mini.






On 12/27/13, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> I need to have a partition for applications and another one for libraries,
> etc
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 1:10 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my hd
>
> Hi. Do you mean can you format external or other internal drives for
> windows, or, can you partition the drive that windows is on? Which
> one.
>
>
>
>
> On 12/26/13, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> Thanks so much for this, but can I creat new drives inside windows? To
> save
>> my libraries on it?
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Strife
>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:03 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my hd
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> holding down the option key when you hear the startup sound will bring
>> up your boot choices. Just right arrow or left arrow and then hit
>> enter.
>>
>> In startup disk under system preferences on mac, and, the bootcamp
>> control panel under windows, you can change your default startup disk.
>>
>> Cameron.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/26/13, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>>> Hi all:
>>>
>>> I'm using windows 64 bit on my mac mini, my question now, if I need to
>>> choose hwen booting, must I need sited assistance or what?
>>>
>>> And, if I need to divide my hd through windows, is it possible/
>>>
>>> Thanks
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Re: "Apple submenu" message, gets quite annoying...

2013-12-27 Thread Anne Robertson

This started happening to me with the latest update to Mavericks. I just ignore 
it but I’m sure it’s a bug.

Cheers,

Anne


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> Hi have this checked, it does not do this to me. Must be something weird with 
> your system.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> I wonder if you have the mouse set to "announce when mouse enters window" in 
>> VO settings?
>> look in the navigation pane  of VO settings for this checkbox and clear it 
>> if it is checked. 
>> On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Vic  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone.
>>> From a couple of days ago I am getting the "Apple submenu" message from 
>>> VOiceOver when typing or performing other actions on my Mac.
>>> Does anyone know where I should look to eliminate this? Where may this 
>>> message come from?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any pointers and ideas.
>>> Best,
>>> Vic
>>> 
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Re: VO always focusing on the toolbar?

2013-12-27 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Alex,

Have you tried repairing permissions and/or resetting the PRAM? When things get 
weird, I always start by repairing permissions and, if that doesn’t work, I 
reset the PRAM. Very few problems remain after that.

Cheers,

Anne


On 27 Dec 2013, at 16:46, Alex Hall  wrote:

> My focus is already set to that. I've seen this once before, but have no idea 
> how I got rid of it. I could disable the toolbar, of course, but I'd rather 
> not. Usually, if nothing else, it holds a search field. Besides, would that 
> really help, or would vo just pick another random spot on which to set focus? 
> I've restarted a couple times, and also just restarted vo itself, but nothing.
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> 
>> This is a setting in VoiceOver Utility, Navigation category. Initial 
>> position of VoiceOver cursor: should be set to Keyboard focused item to 
>> avoid your problem.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 27 Dec 2013, at 14:52, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Yesterday, when I booted the Mac, VO started doing something odd: 
>>> auto-focusing on the toolbar. If an app has a toolbar, it seems, VO jumps 
>>> to it when the app is opened or switched to. I have never seen this before, 
>>> and I have a feeling there is some screen or display setting that got 
>>> changed somehow. Can anyone suggest anything I might try to fix this? 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Considerations for a Clean Install…

There's also iTunes Match for your Music and iTunes in the Cloud for your 
purchased content. Other than that, an external HD or TimeMachine will have to 
do. Most of the tagging is saved as metadata in the files themselves, so that 
will be retained even after copying to an external drive and back. Some info, 
however, such as play counts, ratings, and the media type (e.g. if you've 
tagged mp3 files as audiobooks), is not stored in the file themselves. This 
info is stored in an iTunes database, I believe in the "iTunes Library.rtl" 
file. So as long as you save this file on your external disc as well, you 
should be fine.

I will, however, qualify all this by saying I've always found backing up and 
moving iTunes Library's to be a pain in the backside, and the one time I tried 
to do just that it didn't work well at all, though it was a long time ago 
before I knew what I know now. One of the most annoying things was that all my 
audiobooks became music again, and I had to go back through them all and re-tag 
them as audiobooks. So hopefully a certified iTunes expert like Esther or Tim 
will jump in and provide a better and more authoritative explanation. There's 
also plenty of Macworld and TidBits articles on this topic, so Google should be 
able to help you out as well.

Cheers,
Nic


On 23 Dec 2013, at 6:42 am, Kliphton ---  wrote:

> 1. if you purchased apps in the Mac App Store, then you have nothing to worry 
> about, you can just redownload them when your restore is finished.
> 2.  If you have 3rd party apps, save your activations and most recent version 
> of them on a usb hard or thumb drive.
> 3.  as for your iTunes library.  You should save it to an external hard 
> drive.  That way you can copy the content back to your mac once the clean 
> install is done.  
> Hope this helps.
> 
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>> On Dec 22, 2013, at 9:17 AM, "Alex Hall"  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> Ever since Mavericks, I have had the following problems which others don't 
>> seem to have:
>> 1. Speech is choppy and pauses randomly. This is not all the time, but often 
>> enough to be annoying.
>> 2. Apps take up to thirty seconds to launch.
>> 3. The system just feels sluggish overall.
>> 
>> Am I alone in these? If so, would a clean install help matters? What can I 
>> do to help the restoration process after the install? I have both Crashplan 
>> and a local Time Machine backup, so I can get my personal files back. My 
>> question is more about apps and settings. For instance, how could I restore 
>> my iTunes library, which I spent days manually tagging, or the 
>> customizations I've made in apps like Key Remap, or my saved bookmarks in 
>> Safari, and so forth? I know that the Mac does not use a Windows-style 
>> registry, so restoring will not be as tedious as it would be on Windows, but 
>> I've never done this before. If I should give it a try, what should I know 
>> before I begin?
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Mavericks 10.9.2 may not be far off

Yes, I read that article. I'm of course still hoping for the best, but I don't 
want to get my hopes up and be disappointed so I'm prepared for the worst.

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Re: command for app delete.

AppDelete Light is available from the Mac App Store at half the price of the 
full version.

Most of these apps cannot be in the Mac App Store as they do not comply with 
the App Store's rules on sandboxing. Their purpose is to find and remove files 
related to other apps, and this process itself does not comply with sandboxing 
rules. Hence AppDelete Light, and I suspect any other similar app in the Mac 
App Store, can often only identify the related files that should also be 
deleted along with the app, but cannot actually trash them for you. For this 
reason I wouldn't really bother with them myself, as I want the app to just 
trash all relevant files for me with no further input from me.

I tried CleanApp before, or perhaps it was App Cleaner, but whichever it was I 
didn't find it very accessible. I've read reviews of these kinds of apps by 
reputable sighted people, and AppDelete wasn't rated the highest, but I've been 
really impressed with how easy and accessible it is.

If you do get AppDelete, I've found that I have to navigate to the app I wish 
to delete, open the context menu, and choose AppDelete for it to work. Simply 
pressing command-delete on the app doesn't seem to work for me.

Best,
Nic

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Re: Not go to sleep

What kind of Mac is it? If it's a Macbook, you might want to check both the 
battery tab and power adapter tabs to ensure the settings are properly 
configured for both.

Best,
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Re: possible solution to the voiceover problem

I'm keen to try this, but what will be the effect of my hard disc not being put 
to sleep when possible? Do you think this applies equally to SSDs, or is it 
only spinning wheel hard discs? My MacBook Air only has an SSD, so if it only 
applies to hard discs then it shouldn't affect me. How is the hard disc 
sleeping different from the computer sleeping? Not sure if anyone has these 
answers but if you do I'd be keen to know.

Thanks,
Nic

On 23 Dec 2013, at 1:36 pm, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> That solves the mystery of why I don't have the problem. I run SETI on my 
> computer and don't want it to go to sleep while it's searching for possible 
> radio signals. :)
> 
> Teresa
> 
> Wishing everyone a joyous holiday season and a happy New Year!
> 
> On Sun, 22 Dec 2013, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Wow
>> 
>> This does indeed work.  Speech comes up right away.  Thank you for sharing 
>> this tip.
>> 
>> Much appreciated.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
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Re: command for app delete.

2013-12-27 Thread Jim Gatteys

I use app delete and it will trash the files.  it asks if you want  to archive 
or delete them.  Its a great app.
Jim

On Dec 21, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> AppDelete Light is available from the Mac App Store at half the price of the 
> full version.
> 
> Most of these apps cannot be in the Mac App Store as they do not comply with 
> the App Store's rules on sandboxing. Their purpose is to find and remove 
> files related to other apps, and this process itself does not comply with 
> sandboxing rules. Hence AppDelete Light, and I suspect any other similar app 
> in the Mac App Store, can often only identify the related files that should 
> also be deleted along with the app, but cannot actually trash them for you. 
> For this reason I wouldn't really bother with them myself, as I want the app 
> to just trash all relevant files for me with no further input from me.
> 
> I tried CleanApp before, or perhaps it was App Cleaner, but whichever it was 
> I didn't find it very accessible. I've read reviews of these kinds of apps by 
> reputable sighted people, and AppDelete wasn't rated the highest, but I've 
> been really impressed with how easy and accessible it is.
> 
> If you do get AppDelete, I've found that I have to navigate to the app I wish 
> to delete, open the context menu, and choose AppDelete for it to work. Simply 
> pressing command-delete on the app doesn't seem to work for me.
> 
> Best,
> Nic
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Re: VO always focusing on the toolbar?

I am SUCH an idiot! The other day I turned cursor tracking off while adjusting 
audio settings, and I never turned it back on! I think turning it on has solved 
my problem. Thanks for the ideas anyway - I got a whole bunch of fixes in 
iBooks permissions while doing a repair, so it was good to do that.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Alex,
> 
> Have you tried repairing permissions and/or resetting the PRAM? When things 
> get weird, I always start by repairing permissions and, if that doesn’t work, 
> I reset the PRAM. Very few problems remain after that.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 27 Dec 2013, at 16:46, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> My focus is already set to that. I've seen this once before, but have no 
>> idea how I got rid of it. I could disable the toolbar, of course, but I'd 
>> rather not. Usually, if nothing else, it holds a search field. Besides, 
>> would that really help, or would vo just pick another random spot on which 
>> to set focus? I've restarted a couple times, and also just restarted vo 
>> itself, but nothing.
>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Alex,
>>> 
>>> This is a setting in VoiceOver Utility, Navigation category. Initial 
>>> position of VoiceOver cursor: should be set to Keyboard focused item to 
>>> avoid your problem.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 27 Dec 2013, at 14:52, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 Yesterday, when I booted the Mac, VO started doing something odd: 
 auto-focusing on the toolbar. If an app has a toolbar, it seems, VO jumps 
 to it when the app is opened or switched to. I have never seen this 
 before, and I have a feeling there is some screen or display setting that 
 got changed somehow. Can anyone suggest anything I might try to fix this? 
 Thanks.
 
 
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Re: Mavericks 10.9.2 may not be far off

So far, the only issue I have seen with mavericks is that voiceover 
does not work with applications written in apple script. Other than 
that, things have been fine. Mail works great, and all my applications 
do not have problems. Will probably update my other mac mini this 
weekend, and my macbook next weekend.

Original message:
Yes, I read that article. I'm of course still hoping for the best, but 
I don't want to get my hopes up and be disappointed so I'm prepared for 
the worst.



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Off topic I know!

2013-12-27 Thread Craig J Dunlop

I know this is off-topic but this is the group where I always seem to find the 
answers I need. Is there an easy way to transfer mailboxes from a PC running 
Outlook 2007 to a MacBook air using Mac mail?


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Re: Struggling as a low vision user of OS X

2013-12-27 Thread Byron Lee

The reason why I don't like ZoomText or any other magnification software is
because your mouse is like a camera that you have to move around the
screen... you may have a pop-up balloon or a flashing icon that you
wouldn't notice because you are zoomed in on an edit field and typing away.
Also, when reading a document you have to move your wrist back and forth,
back and forth, back and forth for each line. I hate this and I like just
hitting the down arrow to read. I normally just do CTRL + on apps that
support it and increase the fonts in apps that don't. Unfortunately there
are a lot of apps that don't support either function. I will download and
try ZoomText just so I know for sure that it won't work for me, but from
what I've seen on ZoomText for Windows it is not really what I wanna do.
I'd rather find a way to increase the DPI scailing or get the resolution
lower than what it's allowing me to do right now.

Thanks,
Byron


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Terje Strømberg wrote:

> I mean option-command+esc to turn off the web reader eventually.
>
> Take care
>
> 27. des. 2013 kl. 15:16 skrev Terje Strømberg :
>
> Zoom Text for mac is better i have read. I use Zoom Text, but have never
> bothered to try Zoom integrated in mac because Zoom Text works fine in co
> operation with Voice Over. Its best for you to read about Zoom Text for mac
> on aisquared.com Download a free trial and learn about it. I don't like
> their Web talking thing, because Voice Over works fine. You can turn the
> Web talking thing off by pressing vo+esc and select Zoom Text web or
> something.
>
> Take care
>
> 27. des. 2013 kl. 13:06 skrev Byron J. Lee :
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> I am really struggling as a low vision user of OS X. I know there is a
> free Zoom feature and VoiceOver is a lifesaver as usual, but I am a strange
> case when it comes to computing with limited vision. When I was young I
> never had ZoomText or anything in the Windows world. I was forced to adapt
> the computer to my needs on my own. I figured out a few tricks like using
> the Extra Large theme in Windows XP (this feature seems to be gone in
> Win7), lowering the resolution, DPI Scailing, and of course, using CTRL +
> and - inside Firefox. I've never been a fan of magnifying my screen because
> I am used to seeing everything on my screen all at once. I prefer making
> the text bigger and using magnification ONLY when there's a button or
> something that can't be modified and I can't see what it is.
>
> Now I own a MacBook Air because Windows 8 was even harder to modify than
> Windows 7... and I don't see it getting any better. I think I made a poor
> decision on my Mac, an 11-inch MacBook Air. The screen is small and the
> text on it is tiny. I tried lowering the resolution but it doesn't go very
> low. Also, sighted people tell me that the lower resolution makes
> everything look like crap but I can't see the difference. I also tried
> changing the DPI scailing but apparently Apple doesn't allow you to do this
> without some developer tools like Xcode. I also tried a program called
> TinkerTool but it didn't seem to make a damn bit of a difference. I
> detected absolutely NO change after altering the settings.
>
> I have figured out that Command + and - do change the text size on certain
> things like e-mail and messages... but its still not quite big enough for
> me. I also did a few things like turning on the feature that magnifies your
> Dock, and increase the size of icons on my desktop, but I have a very long
> way to go before everything looks right. Can anyone recommend a tool or a
> method of enlarging text on the Mac without using something like Zoom?
>
> Thanks,
> Byron
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Looking for a MacBook Air

2013-12-27 Thread Trey Bradley

Is there anyone that have a MacBook Air for sell in good condition?

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Re: Off topic I know!

2013-12-27 Thread Littlefield, Tyler


Hello:
I did some research and didn't see anything. Your best bet might be to 
set up Imap or see if you're already using imap, then you'll only need 
to export your address book, which can probably be done in .csv or 
something.

On 12/27/2013 1:43 PM, Craig J Dunlop wrote:

I know this is off-topic but this is the group where I always seem to find the 
answers I need. Is there an easy way to transfer mailboxes from a PC running 
Outlook 2007 to a MacBook air using Mac mail?


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Re: Off topic I know!

2013-12-27 Thread Jim Gatteys

When I switched from Windows my email client let me export my mail boxes to 
.mbx files.  Do you have an option like that?  Apple mail imported them just 
fine like that.  And even though I was using pop mail with gmail the gmail had 
stored my addresses so it was no problem.
  
Jim

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> the answers I need. Is there an easy way to transfer mailboxes from a PC 
> running Outlook 2007 to a MacBook air using Mac mail?
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installing Bootcamp

2013-12-27 Thread Bill Holton

Hi.

I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted help.
But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at installation?
Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 installer to Bootcamp
their Mac?  Thanks much.

Bill

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mini questions/mavericks and email

I am totally new to my Mac Mini that I got for Christmas. Two questions:

1. What are commander and Mavericks? Does the Mini have mountain Lion or is 
Mavericks the same.
2. Where do I find settings for email, and how do I get to a new email so I do 
not highjack a thread?

Glad to be here, and hope someday to be able to help someone else but right now 
a complete beginner with my first Apple computer. Currently writing this on 
iPhone with mBraille.



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reminders

2013-12-27 Thread Jim Gatteys

Hi all!
I added a reminder to remind me on every saturday starting tomorrow.  I just 
got a notification of that reminder now.  Isn't that a bit early?  I've never 
seen it do this before.  I want it to remind me tomorrow and not before then.  
Any ideas where to change that?
Jim

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Amazon Prime is it worth it and are the videos accessible

Hey all,

I don't buy a lot but do buy almost everything through Amazon, and recently 
paid for two day shipping, yeah I guess I am impatient when I want something. I 
wanted to see if the people who are using Amazon Prime are liking it and felt 
it was worth it. I think the shipping alone might make it worth it, but wanted 
to see if the Amazon Instant Video was accessible on the iPhone, as I have read 
conflicting reports. I know Amazon Instant Video doesn't offer any of their 
titles with described video, but did want to see if the app works with VO. 
Also, I thought I read that you can also get one book a month from the Kindle 
lending group. Are people finding a wide variety of choices in this group, or 
does it really just consist of books you would never read. Thanks.

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Re: VO always focusing on the toolbar?

Hey Alex,

Yes, this seems to happen to me to from time to time. Right now every time I 
hit option F11 to bring up the system sound menu for some odd reason VO focus 
automatically puts me in the tool bar, it also seems to happen from time to 
time when I open a new tab in safari. No clue why. If you figure it out please 
do let us know. Thanks.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Jessica D  wrote:

> yes, this happens to me too.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Yesterday, when I booted the Mac, VO started doing something odd: 
>> auto-focusing on the toolbar. If an app has a toolbar, it seems, VO jumps to 
>> it when the app is opened or switched to. I have never seen this before, and 
>> I have a feeling there is some screen or display setting that got changed 
>> somehow. Can anyone suggest anything I might try to fix this? Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
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Re: Amazon Prime is it worth it and are the videos accessible

2013-12-27 Thread Yolanda

I've subscribed to Amazon prime for 3 years now, and would not change a 
thing, I have more than paid for my prime with all the shipping costs 
exceeding the amount prime costs if I had chosen 2 day shipping.



Yolanda

On 12/27/2013 12:47 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:

Hey all,

I don't buy a lot but do buy almost everything through Amazon, and recently 
paid for two day shipping, yeah I guess I am impatient when I want something. I 
wanted to see if the people who are using Amazon Prime are liking it and felt 
it was worth it. I think the shipping alone might make it worth it, but wanted 
to see if the Amazon Instant Video was accessible on the iPhone, as I have read 
conflicting reports. I know Amazon Instant Video doesn't offer any of their 
titles with described video, but did want to see if the app works with VO. 
Also, I thought I read that you can also get one book a month from the Kindle 
lending group. Are people finding a wide variety of choices in this group, or 
does it really just consist of books you would never read. Thanks.



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Re: Amazon Prime is it worth it and are the videos accessible

2013-12-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak

Same here. I haven't really tried anything with the instant video but to me the 
free shipping and knowing when the package will come are worth it.

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On Dec 27, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Yolanda  wrote:

> I've subscribed to Amazon prime for 3 years now, and would not change a 
> thing, I have more than paid for my prime with all the shipping costs 
> exceeding the amount prime costs if I had chosen 2 day shipping.
> 
> 
> Yolanda
> 
> On 12/27/2013 12:47 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I don't buy a lot but do buy almost everything through Amazon, and recently 
>> paid for two day shipping, yeah I guess I am impatient when I want 
>> something. I wanted to see if the people who are using Amazon Prime are 
>> liking it and felt it was worth it. I think the shipping alone might make it 
>> worth it, but wanted to see if the Amazon Instant Video was accessible on 
>> the iPhone, as I have read conflicting reports. I know Amazon Instant Video 
>> doesn't offer any of their titles with described video, but did want to see 
>> if the app works with VO. Also, I thought I read that you can also get one 
>> book a month from the Kindle lending group. Are people finding a wide 
>> variety of choices in this group, or does it really just consist of books 
>> you would never read. Thanks.
>> 
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Re: Amazon Prime is it worth it and are the videos accessible

Thanks Yolanda, do you use the instant video service and is it accessible on 
the iPhone? Thanks
On Dec 27, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Yolanda  wrote:

> I've subscribed to Amazon prime for 3 years now, and would not change a 
> thing, I have more than paid for my prime with all the shipping costs 
> exceeding the amount prime costs if I had chosen 2 day shipping.
> 
> 
> Yolanda
> 
> On 12/27/2013 12:47 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I don't buy a lot but do buy almost everything through Amazon, and recently 
>> paid for two day shipping, yeah I guess I am impatient when I want 
>> something. I wanted to see if the people who are using Amazon Prime are 
>> liking it and felt it was worth it. I think the shipping alone might make it 
>> worth it, but wanted to see if the Amazon Instant Video was accessible on 
>> the iPhone, as I have read conflicting reports. I know Amazon Instant Video 
>> doesn't offer any of their titles with described video, but did want to see 
>> if the app works with VO. Also, I thought I read that you can also get one 
>> book a month from the Kindle lending group. Are people finding a wide 
>> variety of choices in this group, or does it really just consist of books 
>> you would never read. Thanks.
>> 
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Re: Amazon Prime is it worth it and are the videos accessible

2013-12-27 Thread Jenny Wood

Hi there.  I have had Amazon prime now for around two years, and it has been 
worth every penny for the shipping alone.  However, I have also recently begun 
watching many Amazon videos, which I also enjoy as a benefit of the prime 
membership.  As to the accessibility of the videos, I can't really say.  I have 
been watching them via the Kindle Fire HDX, where I can tell you they are 
definitely very accessible, but can't speak to Ios, windows or the mac.  
Perhaps I will give it a try on my iPhone or macbook pro today and get back to 
you.  I have also taken advantage of the "kindle lending library," but to the 
best of my knowledge, you can only "borrow "kindle books from a kindle device.  

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> Hey all,
> 
> I don't buy a lot but do buy almost everything through Amazon, and recently 
> paid for two day shipping, yeah I guess I am impatient when I want something. 
> I wanted to see if the people who are using Amazon Prime are liking it and 
> felt it was worth it. I think the shipping alone might make it worth it, but 
> wanted to see if the Amazon Instant Video was accessible on the iPhone, as I 
> have read conflicting reports. I know Amazon Instant Video doesn't offer any 
> of their titles with described video, but did want to see if the app works 
> with VO. Also, I thought I read that you can also get one book a month from 
> the Kindle lending group. Are people finding a wide variety of choices in 
> this group, or does it really just consist of books you would never read. 
> Thanks.
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Changing Default Spreadhseet App On My Air when Opening A Excel Workbook

2013-12-27 Thread Eileen Misrahi

Hello Folks,


I created an Excel spreadsheet on my PC and saved it in my DropBox folder. I 
opened my Air and when to my DropBox folder and selected the file. When my Air 
opened it, Numbers was the default app. I have Tables installed and I wish to 
have that app as my default spreadsheet app when opening an Excel spreadsheet 
that had been created on the PC and saved in DropBox. can this be accomplished 
and where do I go in system preferences to make the changes. 

thanks in advance. 

Cheers, 
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Re: installing Bootcamp

Windows 8 is not any better for installing without sight than windows 7 
was. You would need some kind of special install if you want to install 
using boot camp. Alternatively, if you use fusion, you can install in 
to a virtual machine instead, and fusion will allow you to install 
windows without sighted help. I could comment on my thoughts about 
windows 8 itself but that's not the point of this list. Suffice it to 
say though that I think things are much more cumbersome than windows 7.

Original message:


Hi.


I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted 
help. But what about Windows 8? Canyou get Narrator to start up at 
installation? Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 
installer to Bootcamp their Mac? Thanks much.



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Re: Amazon Prime is it worth it and are the videos accessible

2013-12-27 Thread Traci Duncan

Our family has subscribed to Amazon prime off/on for a few years now.  I’m not 
sure if we’ll resubscribe this year.

One point I’ve liked about it, is sure 2 free day shipping, but there isn’t the 
minimum $25 to spend.  So, maybe the $80 membership fee comes out in the wash.

I find the instant video app fairly accessible, but lol, I can’t figure out how 
to play a video.  We mostly added videos to our watchList then watched them on 
our TV.  That part wasn’t accessible, it is a visio tv with little applets.  

Good luck on your decision.  I say, if money isn’t a great concern, go for it!  
There’s a great freedom in that prime 2 day shipping.  Also, only $3.99 for 
next day or sometimes express same day delivery.

Traci
 
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> Hi there.  I have had Amazon prime now for around two years, and it has been 
> worth every penny for the shipping alone.  However, I have also recently 
> begun watching many Amazon videos, which I also enjoy as a benefit of the 
> prime membership.  As to the accessibility of the videos, I can't really say. 
>  I have been watching them via the Kindle Fire HDX, where I can tell you they 
> are definitely very accessible, but can't speak to Ios, windows or the mac.  
> Perhaps I will give it a try on my iPhone or macbook pro today and get back 
> to you.  I have also taken advantage of the "kindle lending library," but to 
> the best of my knowledge, you can only "borrow "kindle books from a kindle 
> device.  
> 
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> Phone:(972) 989-3894
> Email:kc5...@gmail.com
> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:   kc5gni
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I don't buy a lot but do buy almost everything through Amazon, and recently 
>> paid for two day shipping, yeah I guess I am impatient when I want 
>> something. I wanted to see if the people who are using Amazon Prime are 
>> liking it and felt it was worth it. I think the shipping alone might make it 
>> worth it, but wanted to see if the Amazon Instant Video was accessible on 
>> the iPhone, as I have read conflicting reports. I know Amazon Instant Video 
>> doesn't offer any of their titles with described video, but did want to see 
>> if the app works with VO. Also, I thought I read that you can also get one 
>> book a month from the Kindle lending group. Are people finding a wide 
>> variety of choices in this group, or does it really just consist of books 
>> you would never read. Thanks.
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Re: VO always focusing on the toolbar?

2013-12-27 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu

Indeed.  Before you could find the install all updates button much easily but 
now it’s a lot of fiddling around.

Kawal.
On 27 Dec 2013, at 15:21, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Funny thing about this is that in my Voice OVer preferences, I do have the 
> keyboard focused item as the default choice, and yet, when ever I check for 
> updates to the OS, always, I get focused on the tool bar.
> 
> Also, the search on the app store seems to not be focused on right away and 
> so you need to direct it there.  This something anybody else noticed?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> 
>> This is a setting in VoiceOver Utility, Navigation category. Initial 
>> position of VoiceOver cursor: should be set to Keyboard focused item to 
>> avoid your problem.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 27 Dec 2013, at 14:52, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Yesterday, when I booted the Mac, VO started doing something odd: 
>>> auto-focusing on the toolbar. If an app has a toolbar, it seems, VO jumps 
>>> to it when the app is opened or switched to. I have never seen this before, 
>>> and I have a feeling there is some screen or display setting that got 
>>> changed somehow. Can anyone suggest anything I might try to fix this? 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: "Apple submenu" message, gets quite annoying...

2013-12-27 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu

Have never had the Apple submenu message.  Running the latest update to 
Mavericks.
On 27 Dec 2013, at 16:57, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> This started happening to me with the latest update to Mavericks. I just 
> ignore it but I’m sure it’s a bug.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 27 Dec 2013, at 17:34, Jessica D  wrote:
> 
>> Hi have this checked, it does not do this to me. Must be something weird 
>> with your system.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> I wonder if you have the mouse set to "announce when mouse enters window" 
>>> in VO settings?
>>> look in the navigation pane  of VO settings for this checkbox and clear it 
>>> if it is checked. 
>>> On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Vic  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello everyone.
 From a couple of days ago I am getting the "Apple submenu" message from 
 VOiceOver when typing or performing other actions on my Mac.
 Does anyone know where I should look to eliminate this? Where may this 
 message come from?
 
 Thanks for any pointers and ideas.
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Re: Reading iBooks on the mac using braille display


Hi, vic and andrew,

Actually iBooks is accessible with VO on the mac. Each chapter has its own 
html content area, and once you interact with it, you can read using a 
Braille display. Unfortunately, you can't use the keyboard shortcuts to go 
to the next chapter in a predictable way. Going through the menu works 
well. sometimes more than one chapter appears on the screen, with various 
html content areas, which you have to interact with. It's not as intuitive 
as it could be, but it is doable, and I've read several books this way.


Also, iBooks aren't synced with itunes anymore. They're synced with iBooks 
on the device and the computer. you can set the sync options up in iTunes, 
and make sure you sync books to your device, but once you do this, you'll 
have to go through iBooks on the computer. If the books are being synced, 
they'll simply show up in your iBooks library screen.


Hth,
Teresa

Wishing everyone a joyous holiday season and a happy New Year!

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013, Vic wrote:


Andrew,Unfortunately, not at this point.
As things stand, iBooks 1.0x is not accessible with VoiceOver. We are all 
hoping the situation will change soon as Apple is keenly aware of the fact.

Hope this helps.
Vic



On Monday, December 23, 2013 7:09:56 AM UTC-8, Andrew wrote:
  Listers,

  I have a usb braille display, focus 40 which I connect to my macbook air. 
It’s quite old - I bought it in 2004. I was wondering whether it would be 
possible to read iBooks I purchase from iBooks store via
  iTunes using this Braille display. If so, how would I go about it? I know 
I can’t use it with the iPad or iPhone because it has no bluetooth. But I 
wonder whether I could use it to read iBooks on my macbook
  air. Also, I’ve been trying to locate my iBooks on the hard drive. I 
can’t find the folder where they would have been stored. I know that music and 
audiobooks are stored in the iTunes media folder but my
  iBooks are not there. Any ideas?

  Thanks for any tips.

  Andrew


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Re: Dish Network App?

2013-12-27 Thread Blake Sinnett

Hello,

The Dish app is pretty accessible. However you won't be able to watch things on 
your DVR once you get it programmed. It appears you can only watch from the 
phone.

Blake



From: Jim Portillo 
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Dish Network App?


Hi there,

 

I'm wondering if anyone uses any of the Dish Network apps with VoiceOver, and 
if so, how accessible are they?  I am getting Dish Network and want to be able 
to do things like program my DVR and such.

Any help would be appreciated.

Which ones should I download? Jim

 

 

 


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Re: VO always focusing on the toolbar?

Control-f7 is a non-VO setting you can try. It toggles between having the 
tab key move to all controls or just form controls.


HtH,
Teresa

Wishing everyone a joyous holiday season and a happy New Year!

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013, Ray Foret Jr wrote:


Funny thing about this is that in my Voice OVer preferences, I do have the 
keyboard focused item as the default choice, and yet, when ever I check for 
updates to the OS, always, I get focused on the tool bar.

Also, the search on the app store seems to not be focused on right away and so 
you need to direct it there.  This something anybody else noticed?


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Dec 27, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:


Hello Alex,

This is a setting in VoiceOver Utility, Navigation category. Initial position 
of VoiceOver cursor: should be set to Keyboard focused item to avoid your 
problem.

Cheers,

Anne


On 27 Dec 2013, at 14:52, Alex Hall  wrote:


Hi all,
Yesterday, when I booted the Mac, VO started doing something odd: auto-focusing 
on the toolbar. If an app has a toolbar, it seems, VO jumps to it when the app 
is opened or switched to. I have never seen this before, and I have a feeling 
there is some screen or display setting that got changed somehow. Can anyone 
suggest anything I might try to fix this? Thanks.


Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
mehg...@gmail.com



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Re: Amazon Prime is it worth it and are the videos accessible

Thanks Jenny. Well, I guess that rules out that Kindle lending part, no Kindle 
here and no plans to get one, pretty happy living on the idevice side. Thanks 
for the feedback.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Jenny Wood  wrote:

> Hi there.  I have had Amazon prime now for around two years, and it has been 
> worth every penny for the shipping alone.  However, I have also recently 
> begun watching many Amazon videos, which I also enjoy as a benefit of the 
> prime membership.  As to the accessibility of the videos, I can't really say. 
>  I have been watching them via the Kindle Fire HDX, where I can tell you they 
> are definitely very accessible, but can't speak to Ios, windows or the mac.  
> Perhaps I will give it a try on my iPhone or macbook pro today and get back 
> to you.  I have also taken advantage of the "kindle lending library," but to 
> the best of my knowledge, you can only "borrow "kindle books from a kindle 
> device.  
> 
> --
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> Jenny Wood
> Phone:(972) 989-3894
> Email:kc5...@gmail.com
> Facebook/Twitter/Skype:   kc5gni
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I don't buy a lot but do buy almost everything through Amazon, and recently 
>> paid for two day shipping, yeah I guess I am impatient when I want 
>> something. I wanted to see if the people who are using Amazon Prime are 
>> liking it and felt it was worth it. I think the shipping alone might make it 
>> worth it, but wanted to see if the Amazon Instant Video was accessible on 
>> the iPhone, as I have read conflicting reports. I know Amazon Instant Video 
>> doesn't offer any of their titles with described video, but did want to see 
>> if the app works with VO. Also, I thought I read that you can also get one 
>> book a month from the Kindle lending group. Are people finding a wide 
>> variety of choices in this group, or does it really just consist of books 
>> you would never read. Thanks.
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Re: Amazon Prime is it worth it and are the videos accessible

2013-12-27 Thread Yolanda

I've been watching them on my iPhone and instant prime app works fine with
VO
On 12/27/2013 1:20 PM, Jenny Wood wrote:

Hi there. I have had Amazon prime now for around two years, and it has been worth every penny for
the shipping alone. However, I have also recently begun watching many Amazon videos, which I also
enjoy as a benefit of the prime membership. As to the accessibility of the videos, I can't really
say. I have been watching them via the Kindle Fire HDX, where I can tell you they are definitely
very accessible, but can't speak to Ios, windows or the mac. Perhaps I will give it a try on my
iPhone or macbook pro today and get back to you. I have also taken advantage of the "kindle
lending library," but to the best of my knowledge, you can only "borrow "kindle
books from a kindle device.

Jenny Wood
Phone: (972) 989-3894
Email: kc5...@gmail.com
Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni

On Dec 27, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:

Hey all,

I don't buy a lot but do buy almost everything through Amazon, and recently
paid for two day shipping, yeah I guess I am impatient when I want something. I
wanted to see if the people who are using Amazon Prime are liking it and felt
it was worth it. I think the shipping alone might make it worth it, but wanted
to see if the Amazon Instant Video was accessible on the iPhone, as I have read
conflicting reports. I know Amazon Instant Video doesn't offer any of their
titles with described video, but did want to see if the app works with VO.
Also, I thought I read that you can also get one book a month from the Kindle
lending group. Are people finding a wide variety of choices in this group, or
does it really just consist of books you would never read. Thanks.

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Re: Amazon Prime is it worth it and are the videos accessible

2013-12-27 Thread Yolanda


I do use the prime instant video app, and I have found it to be accessible.

On 12/27/2013 1:17 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:

Thanks Yolanda, do you use the instant video service and is it accessible on 
the iPhone? Thanks
On Dec 27, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Yolanda  wrote:


I've subscribed to Amazon prime for 3 years now, and would not change a thing, 
I have more than paid for my prime with all the shipping costs exceeding the 
amount prime costs if I had chosen 2 day shipping.


Yolanda

On 12/27/2013 12:47 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:

Hey all,

I don't buy a lot but do buy almost everything through Amazon, and recently 
paid for two day shipping, yeah I guess I am impatient when I want something. I 
wanted to see if the people who are using Amazon Prime are liking it and felt 
it was worth it. I think the shipping alone might make it worth it, but wanted 
to see if the Amazon Instant Video was accessible on the iPhone, as I have read 
conflicting reports. I know Amazon Instant Video doesn't offer any of their 
titles with described video, but did want to see if the app works with VO. 
Also, I thought I read that you can also get one book a month from the Kindle 
lending group. Are people finding a wide variety of choices in this group, or 
does it really just consist of books you would never read. Thanks.


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Re: "Apple submenu" message, gets quite annoying...

2013-12-27 Thread David Taylor

I've never had that particular message, but I do get times when VO will 
randomly say whatever I last had highlighted when I was on the desktop, and all 
my mouse settings are right!

On 27 Dec 2013, at 20:54, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Have never had the Apple submenu message.  Running the latest update to 
> Mavericks.
> On 27 Dec 2013, at 16:57, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> This started happening to me with the latest update to Mavericks. I just 
>> ignore it but I’m sure it’s a bug.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 27 Dec 2013, at 17:34, Jessica D  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi have this checked, it does not do this to me. Must be something weird 
>>> with your system.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 I wonder if you have the mouse set to "announce when mouse enters window" 
 in VO settings?
 look in the navigation pane  of VO settings for this checkbox and clear it 
 if it is checked. 
 On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Vic  wrote:
 
> Hello everyone.
> From a couple of days ago I am getting the "Apple submenu" message from 
> VOiceOver when typing or performing other actions on my Mac.
> Does anyone know where I should look to eliminate this? Where may this 
> message come from?
> 
> Thanks for any pointers and ideas.
> Best,
> Vic
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Re: Amazon Prime is it worth it and are the videos accessible

Thanks Yolanda.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Yolanda  wrote:

> I do use the prime instant video app, and I have found it to be accessible.
> 
> On 12/27/2013 1:17 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
>> Thanks Yolanda, do you use the instant video service and is it accessible on 
>> the iPhone? Thanks
>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Yolanda  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've subscribed to Amazon prime for 3 years now, and would not change a 
>>> thing, I have more than paid for my prime with all the shipping costs 
>>> exceeding the amount prime costs if I had chosen 2 day shipping.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yolanda
>>> 
>>> On 12/27/2013 12:47 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
 Hey all,

 I don't buy a lot but do buy almost everything through Amazon, and 
 recently paid for two day shipping, yeah I guess I am impatient when I 
 want something. I wanted to see if the people who are using Amazon Prime 
 are liking it and felt it was worth it. I think the shipping alone might 
 make it worth it, but wanted to see if the Amazon Instant Video was 
 accessible on the iPhone, as I have read conflicting reports. I know 
 Amazon Instant Video doesn't offer any of their titles with described 
 video, but did want to see if the app works with VO. Also, I thought I 
 read that you can also get one book a month from the Kindle lending group. 
 Are people finding a wide variety of choices in this group, or does it 
 really just consist of books you would never read. Thanks.

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Re: toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my hd

2013-12-27 Thread ramy moustafa

Thanks so much for all your advices.
I started, and I discovered a very very strange issue.
I launch windows through the bootcamp, but, no sounds at all, I tried launching 
the narrator  but no voce. I asked  sited friend to look, he can see 
everything, and the sound card is not muted, I changed my speakers and the 
same, no sound at all, my driver is ok, and I can maek the test sound through 
windows, but can’t here it. Any ideas why this happened?
Of cores the machine is not damaged because I was using the same jack on my 
mavericks.
 
Any help will be highly abbreciated
 

Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Cameron Strife  wrote:
> 
> That sort of configuration would be a very poor choice. As I said, you
> really want two hard drives. Keep in mind that you can install a
> second internal drive in your mac mini.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12/27/13, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> I need to have a partition for applications and another one for libraries,
>> etc
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Strife
>> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 1:10 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my hd
>> 
>> Hi. Do you mean can you format external or other internal drives for
>> windows, or, can you partition the drive that windows is on? Which
>> one.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/26/13, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>>> Thanks so much for this, but can I creat new drives inside windows? To
>> save
>>> my libraries on it?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Strife
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:03 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my hd
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> holding down the option key when you hear the startup sound will bring
>>> up your boot choices. Just right arrow or left arrow and then hit
>>> enter.
>>> 
>>> In startup disk under system preferences on mac, and, the bootcamp
>>> control panel under windows, you can change your default startup disk.
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 12/26/13, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
 Hi all:
 
 I'm using windows 64 bit on my mac mini, my question now, if I need to
 choose hwen booting, must I need sited assistance or what?
 
 And, if I need to divide my hd through windows, is it possible/
 
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Re: Not go to sleep

2013-12-27 Thread Terje Strømberg

iMac 2012

Take care

23. des. 2013 kl. 12:32 skrev Terje Strømberg :

Hi

In system preferences, save current, i have chosen to "never" go to sleep and 
the screen "never" to go to sleep. Still…..it goes to sleep every 15 minutes or 
so. Any suggestion for a fix?

Setting the computer and screen to go to sleep every 3 our don't help either. 
Goes to sleep anyway.

Have heard Voice Over mention something about saving current in Safari. Some 
kind of Safari saving current app, but can't find anything about this in Safari.

Take care

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Re: Dish Network App?

2013-12-27 Thread alia robinson

you can watch on tv. there is a  button there you tap, and it works fine.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Blake Sinnett  wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> The Dish app is pretty accessible. However you won't be able to watch things 
> on your DVR once you get it programmed. It appears you can only watch from 
> the phone.

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Re: Advantages and dis-advantages of the compact and HQ voices of Voiceover

2013-12-27 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse

hi, for me it is  the compact voices  too, why? i can speed it up
faster, which does make sense if yall stop and think about it ,
imagine a girl speaking really fast, would we be  able too understand
her? properly not smiles.
If you are like me studying anything that needs lots of reading you
want to be able too read fast, and the compact voices can give me
that. The only time i slow it down is when i read nursing books in
norwegian. else i have it it on about 80. 100%
merry xmas and a happy new year  all :)


On 12/27/13, Daniel McGee  wrote:
> Hi everyone, thanks for all your feedback on how you use the voices.
> Sean, I particularly like the way you described how you use the voice.
> It makes sense.
> You see, in the Windows world when using another screenreader I was able to
> speed up the void up to 30% and still understand it. I kind of want to do
> that but am a bit frustrated I can’t in case I’ll miss some important
> information.
> Oh well, guess one can’t run before they can walk. lol
> To Mike, at around what percentage do you use for your voices on your Mac to
> listen to speech at a leisurely pace?
>
> Again, thanks to everyone who has provided there input!
>
> Daniel
> On 24 Dec 2013, at 06:11, Shawn AKA BBS  wrote:
>
>> Hi Daniel. For me when I use the Nuance voices, I use the premium version
>> of the Australian Karen voice. I love the way Nuance tweeked her voice to
>> sound more human with Vocalizer Expressive. I wish they would do the same
>> for the male Australian voice, Lee, or if since Nuance is adding Loquendo
>> voices to Vocalizer Expressive, replace Lee with Allan since he sounds way
>> better than Lee. As for speech rate, I don't like to speed up the voice
>> past the rate that's in their samples because it sounds unnatural when you
>> do that.
>>
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Re: Changing Default Spreadhseet App On My Air when Opening A Excel Workbook

2013-12-27 Thread Phil Halton

I believe thats done in the info pane for the particular file. In the info 
pane, you can set a particular file type, .xls in your case, to open with a 
particular app, again, in this case, Tables.
Not sure on exactly how its done, but fiddle around with it and you'll probably 
find easily enough.

On Dec 27, 2013, at 3:34 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

> Hello Folks,
> 
> 
> I created an Excel spreadsheet on my PC and saved it in my DropBox folder. I 
> opened my Air and when to my DropBox folder and selected the file. When my 
> Air opened it, Numbers was the default app. I have Tables installed and I 
> wish to have that app as my default spreadsheet app when opening an Excel 
> spreadsheet that had been created on the PC and saved in DropBox. can this be 
> accomplished and where do I go in system preferences to make the changes. 
> 
> thanks in advance. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> eileen 
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Re: antivirus for mac, is it useful?

virus barrier is NOT free. From what I understand, it does work well with 
voiceover. Clamsav IS free and also works well with voiceover.

-eric

On Dec 27, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Jessica D wrote:

> is it free? how does it work with voiceover?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Tyler Thompson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’d recommend downloading virusBarrier (from the app store). Mac’s however 
>> don’t generally get Viruses. You have a small chance of getting one if you 
>> download a lot of 3rd party apps that you can’t find in the app store, past 
>> that it’s unlikely.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 26, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is it useful to use antivirus for mac? Or it’s far from viruses?
>>> 
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Problems with iTunes library

2013-12-27 Thread Agent086b

Hello,
recently I have been having problems getting inside my iTunes folder. 
I type ~/library/itunes/
I used to be able to see most of the directories in that folder. Now i see 
things like the below.


I am using latest Mavericks.
Thanks for any help.
Max

https_buy.itunes.apple.com_0.localstorage
Description: Binary data


https_p42-buy.itunes.apple.com_0.localstorage
Description: Binary data
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Re: installing Bootcamp

2013-12-27 Thread Byron J. Lee

I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook 
Air. How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you 
download a file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing 
it without a CD?


On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote:


Hi.

I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted 
help.  But what about Windows 8? Canyou get Narrator to start up at 
installation?  Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 
installer to Bootcamp their Mac?  Thanks much.


Bill

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Re: toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my hd

2013-12-27 Thread Cameron Strife

Did you install the latest bootcamp driver package? If you try using a
USB headset or a USB speaker, do you get audio then? The plug and play
devices will work because you don't need to manually install a driver
for them.




On 12/27/13, ramy moustafa  wrote:
> Thanks so much for all your advices.
> I started, and I discovered a very very strange issue.
> I launch windows through the bootcamp, but, no sounds at all, I tried
> launching the narrator  but no voce. I asked  sited friend to look, he can
> see everything, and the sound card is not muted, I changed my speakers and
> the same, no sound at all, my driver is ok, and I can maek the test sound
> through windows, but can’t here it. Any ideas why this happened?
> Of cores the machine is not damaged because I was using the same jack on my
> mavericks.
>
> Any help will be highly abbreciated
>
>
> Ramy moustafa saber
> Musicc instructor at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Cameron Strife 
>> wrote:
>>
>> That sort of configuration would be a very poor choice. As I said, you
>> really want two hard drives. Keep in mind that you can install a
>> second internal drive in your mac mini.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 12/27/13, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>>> I need to have a partition for applications and another one for
>>> libraries,
>>> etc
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Strife
>>> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 1:10 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my
>>> hd
>>>
>>> Hi. Do you mean can you format external or other internal drives for
>>> windows, or, can you partition the drive that windows is on? Which
>>> one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On 12/26/13, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
 Thanks so much for this, but can I creat new drives inside windows? To
>>> save
 my libraries on it?

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Strife
 Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:03 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my
 hd

 Hi.

 holding down the option key when you hear the startup sound will bring
 up your boot choices. Just right arrow or left arrow and then hit
 enter.

 In startup disk under system preferences on mac, and, the bootcamp
 control panel under windows, you can change your default startup disk.

 Cameron.




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>
> I'm using windows 64 bit on my mac mini, my question now, if I need to
> choose hwen booting, must I need sited assistance or what?
>
> And, if I need to divide my hd through windows, is it possible/
>
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RE: Dish Network App?

2013-12-27 Thread Jim Portillo

Are there any tutorials or podcasts on this app?

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Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 1:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dish Network App?

Hello,

The Dish app is pretty accessible. However you won't be able to watch things
on your DVR once you get it programmed. It appears you can only watch from
the phone.

Blake

From: Jim Portillo   

Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 1:40 AM

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Dish Network App?

Hi there,

I'm wondering if anyone uses any of the Dish Network apps with VoiceOver,
and if so, how accessible are they?  I am getting Dish Network and want to
be able to do things like program my DVR and such.

Any help would be appreciated.

Which ones should I download? Jim

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Re: Using a sig line in mail.

This has been covered several times on this list. You should be able to Google 
the responses. Essentially, these are the steps:
• Navigate to the signature in All Signatures and mouse down with 
VO-Command-Shift-Space.
• Turn curser tracking off.
• Navigate to the name of the account in which you want the signature and mouse 
up with VO-Command-Shift-Space.
• YOu can now turn curser tracking back on and check that the signature has 
populated the desired account.
Please note I have not tested this method in Mavericks.

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Re: reminders

Sounds like you need to double check your date and time settings in system 
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Re: antivirus for mac, is it useful?

Does the Mac require a virus program? If so, can someone tell me what is good?


reggie and Allegra

On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:38 PM, eric oyen  wrote:

virus barrier is NOT free. From what I understand, it does work well with 
voiceover. Clamsav IS free and also works well with voiceover.

-eric

> On Dec 27, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Jessica D wrote:
> 
> is it free? how does it work with voiceover?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Tyler Thompson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’d recommend downloading virusBarrier (from the app store). Mac’s however 
>> don’t generally get Viruses. You have a small chance of getting one if you 
>> download a lot of 3rd party apps that you can’t find in the app store, past 
>> that it’s unlikely.
>> 
>> 
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>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is it useful to use antivirus for mac? Or it’s far from viruses?
>>> 
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Re: antivirus for mac, is it useful?

It doesn't require it as much as windows, however, I would strongly recommend 
its use. clamsav is a good free version and is also quite accessible. Believe 
me, with the ever increasing popularity of apple products, its eventually going 
to be very hard not to incur the wrath of those who create malware. In this 
case, having an antivirus client for OS X is definitely a proactive solution.

-eric

On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Regina Alvarado wrote:

> Does the Mac require a virus program? If so, can someone tell me what is good?
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
> 
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:38 PM, eric oyen  wrote:
> 
> virus barrier is NOT free. From what I understand, it does work well with 
> voiceover. Clamsav IS free and also works well with voiceover.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Jessica D wrote:
>> 
>> is it free? how does it work with voiceover?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 26, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Tyler Thompson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’d recommend downloading virusBarrier (from the app store). Mac’s however 
>>> don’t generally get Viruses. You have a small chance of getting one if you 
>>> download a lot of 3rd party apps that you can’t find in the app store, past 
>>> that it’s unlikely.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: antivirus for mac, is it useful?

Do I find Clamsav in the app store? If not, where can I get it?


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On Dec 27, 2013, at 8:56 PM, eric oyen  wrote:

It doesn't require it as much as windows, however, I would strongly recommend 
its use. clamsav is a good free version and is also quite accessible. Believe 
me, with the ever increasing popularity of apple products, its eventually going 
to be very hard not to incur the wrath of those who create malware. In this 
case, having an antivirus client for OS X is definitely a proactive solution.

-eric

> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
> 
> Does the Mac require a virus program? If so, can someone tell me what is good?
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
> 
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:38 PM, eric oyen  wrote:
> 
> virus barrier is NOT free. From what I understand, it does work well with 
> voiceover. Clamsav IS free and also works well with voiceover.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Jessica D wrote:
>> 
>> is it free? how does it work with voiceover?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 26, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Tyler Thompson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’d recommend downloading virusBarrier (from the app store). Mac’s however 
>>> don’t generally get Viruses. You have a small chance of getting one if you 
>>> download a lot of 3rd party apps that you can’t find in the app store, past 
>>> that it’s unlikely.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Advantages and dis-advantages of the compact and HQ voices of Voiceover

Sorry, another newby question! Are there any other voices on the Mini besides 
Alex, Vicky, Victoria, Fre? Alex sounds high quality, but the rest sound 
compact. Am I missing some voices? Can I make the others besides Alex high 
quality as on iPhone?


reggie and Allegra

On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:

hi, for me it is  the compact voices  too, why? i can speed it up
faster, which does make sense if yall stop and think about it ,
imagine a girl speaking really fast, would we be  able too understand
her? properly not smiles.
If you are like me studying anything that needs lots of reading you
want to be able too read fast, and the compact voices can give me
that. The only time i slow it down is when i read nursing books in
norwegian. else i have it it on about 80. 100%
merry xmas and a happy new year  all :)


> On 12/27/13, Daniel McGee  wrote:
> Hi everyone, thanks for all your feedback on how you use the voices.
> Sean, I particularly like the way you described how you use the voice.
> It makes sense.
> You see, in the Windows world when using another screenreader I was able to
> speed up the void up to 30% and still understand it. I kind of want to do
> that but am a bit frustrated I can’t in case I’ll miss some important
> information.
> Oh well, guess one can’t run before they can walk. lol
> To Mike, at around what percentage do you use for your voices on your Mac to
> listen to speech at a leisurely pace?
> 
> Again, thanks to everyone who has provided there input!
> 
> Daniel
>> On 24 Dec 2013, at 06:11, Shawn AKA BBS  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel. For me when I use the Nuance voices, I use the premium version
>> of the Australian Karen voice. I love the way Nuance tweeked her voice to
>> sound more human with Vocalizer Expressive. I wish they would do the same
>> for the male Australian voice, Lee, or if since Nuance is adding Loquendo
>> voices to Vocalizer Expressive, replace Lee with Allan since he sounds way
>> better than Lee. As for speech rate, I don't like to speed up the voice
>> past the rate that's in their samples because it sounds unnatural when you
>> do that.
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Re: antivirus for mac, is it useful?

not sure if its in the app store. however, you can get it from here: 
http://www.clamxav.com/download.php

-eric
On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Regina Alvarado wrote:

> Do I find Clamsav in the app store? If not, where can I get it?
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
> 
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 8:56 PM, eric oyen  wrote:
> 
> It doesn't require it as much as windows, however, I would strongly recommend 
> its use. clamsav is a good free version and is also quite accessible. Believe 
> me, with the ever increasing popularity of apple products, its eventually 
> going to be very hard not to incur the wrath of those who create malware. In 
> this case, having an antivirus client for OS X is definitely a proactive 
> solution.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
>> 
>> Does the Mac require a virus program? If so, can someone tell me what is 
>> good?
>> 
>> 
>> reggie and Allegra
>> 
>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:38 PM, eric oyen  wrote:
>> 
>> virus barrier is NOT free. From what I understand, it does work well with 
>> voiceover. Clamsav IS free and also works well with voiceover.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Jessica D wrote:
>>> 
>>> is it free? how does it work with voiceover?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 26, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Tyler Thompson  
 wrote:
 
 I’d recommend downloading virusBarrier (from the app store). Mac’s however 
 don’t generally get Viruses. You have a small chance of getting one if you 
 download a lot of 3rd party apps that you can’t find in the app store, 
 past that it’s unlikely.
 
 
> On Dec 26, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> 
> Is it useful to use antivirus for mac? Or it’s far from viruses?
> 
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Re: Advantages and dis-advantages of the compact and HQ voices of Voiceover

2013-12-27 Thread Matt Dierckens

Hi.
Yes, you ca download extra high quality voices.
Go to voiceover utility with CTRL Option F8. Go to the speech tab with Command 
3.
Now go to the voices tab, and move to where it says, voice name, default voice. 
Press spacebar, and choose customize.
Now you will be presented with a able where you can select the voices you would 
like. Note that these voices are rather large, about 200 or 300 megs each.
Hth.
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On Dec 27, 2013, at 9:09 PM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:

> Sorry, another newby question! Are there any other voices on the Mini besides 
> Alex, Vicky, Victoria, Fre? Alex sounds high quality, but the rest sound 
> compact. Am I missing some voices? Can I make the others besides Alex high 
> quality as on iPhone?
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
> 
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> hi, for me it is  the compact voices  too, why? i can speed it up
> faster, which does make sense if yall stop and think about it ,
> imagine a girl speaking really fast, would we be  able too understand
> her? properly not smiles.
> If you are like me studying anything that needs lots of reading you
> want to be able too read fast, and the compact voices can give me
> that. The only time i slow it down is when i read nursing books in
> norwegian. else i have it it on about 80. 100%
> merry xmas and a happy new year  all :)
> 
> 
>> On 12/27/13, Daniel McGee  wrote:
>> Hi everyone, thanks for all your feedback on how you use the voices.
>> Sean, I particularly like the way you described how you use the voice.
>> It makes sense.
>> You see, in the Windows world when using another screenreader I was able to
>> speed up the void up to 30% and still understand it. I kind of want to do
>> that but am a bit frustrated I can’t in case I’ll miss some important
>> information.
>> Oh well, guess one can’t run before they can walk. lol
>> To Mike, at around what percentage do you use for your voices on your Mac to
>> listen to speech at a leisurely pace?
>> 
>> Again, thanks to everyone who has provided there input!
>> 
>> Daniel
>>> On 24 Dec 2013, at 06:11, Shawn AKA BBS  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Daniel. For me when I use the Nuance voices, I use the premium version
>>> of the Australian Karen voice. I love the way Nuance tweeked her voice to
>>> sound more human with Vocalizer Expressive. I wish they would do the same
>>> for the male Australian voice, Lee, or if since Nuance is adding Loquendo
>>> voices to Vocalizer Expressive, replace Lee with Allan since he sounds way
>>> better than Lee. As for speech rate, I don't like to speed up the voice
>>> past the rate that's in their samples because it sounds unnatural when you
>>> do that.
>>> 
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Re: Amazon Prime is it worth it and are the videos accessible

2013-12-27 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli

I love Amazon Prime. Definitely worth it.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> I don't buy a lot but do buy almost everything through Amazon, and recently 
> paid for two day shipping, yeah I guess I am impatient when I want something. 
> I wanted to see if the people who are using Amazon Prime are liking it and 
> felt it was worth it. I think the shipping alone might make it worth it, but 
> wanted to see if the Amazon Instant Video was accessible on the iPhone, as I 
> have read conflicting reports. I know Amazon Instant Video doesn't offer any 
> of their titles with described video, but did want to see if the app works 
> with VO. Also, I thought I read that you can also get one book a month from 
> the Kindle lending group. Are people finding a wide variety of choices in 
> this group, or does it really just consist of books you would never read. 
> Thanks.
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Re: mini questions/mavericks and email

Your Mini probably has Mavericks, but it may still have Mountain Lion. Press 
ctrl-option-m, down arrow to "About this Mac", press enter, and move through 
the resulting dialog with ctrl-option-right or left to find your OS10 version. 
Hit escape to close it.

A commander is a way of assigning actions to keys or trackpad gestures. I'd 
suggest getting comfortable with Voiceover's basics before delving into 
commanders.

3. In Mail, press command-n to make a new message. Mail's preferences are 
accessed with command-comma, as are the preferences in most every Mac app.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:

> I am totally new to my Mac Mini that I got for Christmas. Two questions:
> 
> 1. What are commander and Mavericks? Does the Mini have mountain Lion or is 
> Mavericks the same.
> 2. Where do I find settings for email, and how do I get to a new email so I 
> do not highjack a thread?
> 
> Glad to be here, and hope someday to be able to help someone else but right 
> now a complete beginner with my first Apple computer. Currently writing this 
> on iPhone with mBraille.
> 
> 
> 
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Voiceover voice is question for iPhone 5s

2013-12-27 Thread Chenelle Hancock

Hello everyone! I want to know how can you download voices like Karen Emily 
Alice etc. on to your iPhone five and see using voice over? Thank you so much I 
really appreciate it sincerely, Chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

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> Updates]
> antivirus for mac, is it useful? [5 Updates]
> reminders [1 Update]
> Using a sig line in mail. [1 Update]
> Dish Network App? [3 Updates]
> toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my hd [2 Updates]
> installing Bootcamp [1 Update]
> Problems with iTunes library [1 Update]
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> Update]
> Not go to sleep [1 Update]
> Amazon Prime is it worth it and are the videos accessible [4 Updates]
> "Apple submenu" message, gets quite annoying... [1 Update]
> VO always focusing on the toolbar? [1 Update]
>  Advantages and dis-advantages of the compact and HQ voices of Voiceover
> Sandi Jazmin Kruse  Dec 27 02:22PM -0800  
> 
> hi, for me it is the compact voices too, why? i can speed it up
> faster, which does make sense if yall stop and think about it ,
> imagine a girl speaking really fast, would we be able too understand
> her? properly not smiles.
> If you are like me studying anything that needs lots of reading you
> want to be able too read fast, and the compact voices can give me
> that. The only time i slow it down is when i read nursing books in
> norwegian. else i have it it on about 80. 100%
> merry xmas and a happy new year all :)
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Regina Alvarado  Dec 27 09:09PM -0500  
> 
> Sorry, another newby question! Are there any other voices on the Mini besides 
> Alex, Vicky, Victoria, Fre? Alex sounds high quality, but the rest sound 
> compact. Am I missing some voices? Can I make the others besides Alex high 
> quality as on iPhone?
>  
>  
> reggie and Allegra
>  
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>  
> hi, for me it is the compact voices too, why? i can speed it up
> faster, which does make sense if yall stop and think about it ,
> imagine a girl speaking really fast, would we be able too understand
> her? properly not smiles.
> If you are like me studying anything that needs lots of reading you
> want to be able too read fast, and the compact voices can give me
> that. The only time i slow it down is when i read nursing books in
> norwegian. else i have it it on about 80. 100%
> merry xmas and a happy new year all :)
>  
>  
>  
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> 
> Matt Dierckens  Dec 27 09:52PM -0500  
> 
> Hi.
> Yes, you ca download extra high quality voices.
> Go to voiceover utility with CTRL Option F8. Go to the speech tab with 
> Command 3.
> Now go to the voices tab, and move to where it says, voice name, default 
> voice. Press spacebar, and choose customize.
> Now you will be presented with a able where you can select the voices you 
> would like. Note that these voices are rather large, about 200 or 300 megs 
> each.
> Hth.
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>  
>  
> 
>  antivirus for mac, is it useful?
> eric oyen  Dec 27 04:38PM -0700  
> 
> virus barrier is NOT free. From what I understand, it does work well with 
> voiceover. Clamsav IS free and also works well with voiceover.
>  
> -eric
>  
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Jessica D wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Regina Alvarado  Dec 27 08:49PM -0500  
> 
> Does the Mac require a virus program? If so, can someone tell me what is good?
>  
>  
> reggie and Allegra
>  
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:38 PM, eric oyen  wrote:
>  
> virus barrier is NOT free. From what I understand, it does work well with 
> voiceover. Clamsav IS free and also works well with voiceover.
>  
> -eric
>  
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> eric oyen  Dec 27 06:56PM -0700  
> 
> It doesn't require it as much as windows, however, I would strongly recommend 
> its use. clamsav is a good free version and i

Anyone else Notice Gmail Acting Funky, no Matter the Mail App?


Hi, all,

Well, I've been using Alpine in Terminal and Gmail still has syncing 
issues. I sometimes get a batch of mail that's three days old. My iCloud 
and Cox accounts sync just fine.


Teresa

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Re: Anyone else Notice Gmail Acting Funky, no Matter the Mail App?

2013-12-27 Thread Pete Nalda

I've noticed gmail to be pretty slow to sync when my mbp has b been asleep for 
a while, and my archive folder on said machine STILL has 1600 messages, when my 
iPhone has like maybe 30.

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> wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> 
> Well, I've been using Alpine in Terminal and Gmail still has syncing issues. 
> I sometimes get a batch of mail that's three days old. My iCloud and Cox 
> accounts sync just fine.
> 
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Re: "Apple submenu" message, gets quite annoying...

2013-12-27 Thread Vic

The checkbox was already unchecked. Will be looking for other culprits.

Thanks,
Victor


On Friday, December 27, 2013 7:25:00 AM UTC-8, phil halton wrote:
>
> I wonder if you have the mouse set to "announce when mouse enters window" 
> in VO settings?
> look in the navigation pane  of VO settings for this checkbox and clear it 
> if it is checked. 
> On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Vic > wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
> From a couple of days ago I am getting the "Apple submenu" message from 
> VOiceOver when typing or performing other actions on my Mac.
> Does anyone know where I should look to eliminate this? Where may this 
> message come from?
>
> Thanks for any pointers and ideas.
> Best,
> Vic
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Re: Reading iBooks on the mac using braille display

2013-12-27 Thread Vic

Hello Teresa!
I did not realize this part, however, choosing the books still remains to 
be a problem. At least in my case, VoiceOver does not announce the names of 
the book samples, books or PDF documents stored in my library.
Is this the experience you have?


On Friday, December 27, 2013 1:08:16 PM UTC-8, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>
> Hi, vic and andrew, 
>
> Actually iBooks is accessible with VO on the mac. Each chapter has its own 
> html content area, and once you interact with it, you can read using a 
> Braille display. Unfortunately, you can't use the keyboard shortcuts to go 
> to the next chapter in a predictable way. Going through the menu works 
> well. sometimes more than one chapter appears on the screen, with various 
> html content areas, which you have to interact with. It's not as intuitive 
> as it could be, but it is doable, and I've read several books this way. 
>
> Also, iBooks aren't synced with itunes anymore. They're synced with iBooks 
> on the device and the computer. you can set the sync options up in iTunes, 
> and make sure you sync books to your device, but once you do this, you'll 
> have to go through iBooks on the computer. If the books are being synced, 
> they'll simply show up in your iBooks library screen. 
>
> Hth, 
> Teresa 
>
> Wishing everyone a joyous holiday season and a happy New Year! 
>
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013, Vic wrote: 
>
> > Andrew,Unfortunately, not at this point. 
> > As things stand, iBooks 1.0x is not accessible with VoiceOver. We are 
> all hoping the situation will change soon as Apple is keenly aware of the 
> fact. 
> > 
> > Hope this helps. 
> > Vic 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Monday, December 23, 2013 7:09:56 AM UTC-8, Andrew wrote: 
> >   Listers, 
> > 
> >   I have a usb braille display, focus 40 which I connect to my 
> macbook air. Itï¿½s quite old - I bought it in 2004. I was wondering 
> whether it would be possible to read iBooks I purchase from iBooks store 
> via 
> >   iTunes using this Braille display. If so, how would I go about it? 
> I know I canï¿½t use it with the iPad or iPhone because it has no 
> bluetooth. But I wonder whether I could use it to read iBooks on my macbook 
> >   air. Also, Iï¿½ve been trying to locate my iBooks on the hard 
> drive. I canï¿½t find the folder where they would have been stored. I know 
> that music and audiobooks are stored in the iTunes media folder but my 
> >   iBooks are not there. Any ideas? 
> > 
> >   Thanks for any tips. 
> > 
> >   Andrew

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Re: Reading iBooks on the mac using braille display