Re: Convert tect to table in new pages
Hello Daniela, The Convert text to table feature has gone from the new Pages. However, you can create your table by copying it to the clipboard, then opening a Pages document and inserting a table. You then select all the cells in that table by interacting with it and doing Cmd-a. You then paste your table that you put on the clipboard into your Pages table. I only tested this with a tiny table created in TextEdit with tabs separating the columns and new line characters separating the rows. Cheers, Anne On 20 Dec 2013, at 08:29, Daniela Rubio wrote: > Hello.As the subject says, I want to convert some text to table. I already > made the format with tab between eact column, but I can’t find the “Convert > text to table” under the format and table submenu. Any other ideas for this? > I have a very long table in this format that I would like to convert. Any aid > will be truly appreciated. > Thanks! > > Daniela Rubio T > iphone: +34662328507 > > > > Daniela Rubio T > Distinguished Educator > iPhone: +34662328507 > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: tabs and pages
Hello Jim, When you say you want your text to be right aligned, do you mean that you want your text on the right-hand side of the page, or for the right-hand edge of the text to be aligned? To align the text down the right-hand margin, VO-j from the body of the document to the Formatter and select the Style radio button. Interact with the scroll area and navigate down to the Horizontal alignment group. Interact and check the Right check box. If you want your text to be on the right-hand side of the page, jump to the Formatter and select the Layout radio button. Interact with the scroll area and navigate down to Indents and press VO-Space to expand the disclosure triangle. Navigate to First and set it to the number of centimetres or inches you want from the left-hand margin, not the left-hand edge of the paper. Go right to Left, and enter the same number. VO-j will take you back to your document. Cheers, Anne On 20 Dec 2013, at 08:48, Jim Gatteys wrote: > Hi! > I have text that I want to be right aligned in pages and am trying to set a > tab that will reflect that. I find a combo box that says left but I can't > change it to anything else. Any ideas? > Thanks, > Jim > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Fwd: Updates
Ramy moustafa saber Musicc instructor at: faculty of musical education music arranger and sound engineer Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: ramy moustafa > Date: December 19, 2013 at 2:37:19 PM GMT+2 > To: mac mailing list > Subject: Updates > > Hi all: > > After I updated to mavericks, I can’t get any apps from the app store, here > is what I do exactly: > I enter the app store, I find the search, and I type my app, let’s say > dropbox, I hit the enter key, but I can’t find any results, I’m connected to > the internet. And I can do updates to my applications. > > What can I do please? > > Thanks > > > Ramy moustafa saber > Musicc instructor at: > faculty of musical education > music arranger and sound engineer > Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Equal Access to Library Books (Was: a word in defense of the Apple accessibility team)
hi Nicholas. I actually don't agree with you, or i should say i do up too a point. When i started my education, it was clear too me from day 1 that i had too do something my self to get going. Like you i was absolutely convinced that i would need about $2000 too make it work, thank god that was not the case. I am not saying that the proof reading is always perfect, but usually it works. Now lets have a look at your other point. Of course it would be absolutely gorgeous if we could lay hand on the electronic copy of the book. no more scanning, no more working too make sure that you get all the words right, i am most definitely with you on that one. Equal access would be nice, but i have a hard time seeing that happening anytime soon. As others have said most likely the reason for this is they are scared of loosing money. David, true BookShare is absolutely fantastic. I wish i could use them, but since i am outside the us, i can't. Eric, there is a part of the copyright law in the us holding you from scanning the books from your local lib? i gotta admit i did not know that, if that is indeed the case the overall case about this is or ought to be quite clear. With the scanner i got now, i can scan over 400 pages on 2 hours, that is is of course whilst reading at the same time, scanning, proofreading. Also i think it depends on other factors, if you have other handicaps, of course trying too get the books in some other ways, might be more enjoyable :) have a gorgeous weekend! :) best Sandi On 12/19/13, Nicholas Parsons wrote: > Is it possible to scan and OCR library books? Yes, of course. However, to > scan requires a scanner. Moreover, to get good results from books rather > than loose leaf pages requires a special kind of scanner. Then there's the > OCR software. None of this is cheap, and none of it is an expense or effort > sighted people are required to go through to get library books. > > So, while it's possible, is it equal access? No, far from it. And expecting > equal access isn't just some idealistic nonsense, as some seem to suggest. > Libraries in my country, and many developed countries are required by law to > provide all people equal access to their books. So this is simply a question > of whether the libraries are complying with the law, and in most cases I > think they're not. > > Is this unequal access necessary? No, not in the vast majority of cases. All > modern books are printed from a digital copy. They are not typed up on type > writers. The authors and publishers have perfect electronic copies which > don't require any scanning, proof reading or OCR. Why don't they let us have > access to these? Because they are worried this might impact their profits. > Simply put, they value increased profits more than our rights to equal > access. > > Of course authors and publishers need to make money, otherwise there > wouldn't be as many good publications available. However, it's not at all > necessary to sacrifice profits to provide access to electronic publications. > Firstly, there are many mass market eBook vendors with digital rights > management which could be used to make books available. While the > collections of Kindle and iBooks are constantly growing, they are often > still lacking books, particularly from certain publishers who have not yet > embraced the digital era. Secondly, there are publishes that have been able > to make money selling unprotected eBooks. TidBits and TOR are examples. So > it's more than possible for at least all modern books to be made easily > available in accessible formats which do not require scanning, OCR and proof > reading, but the Author's Guild is too cautious and keen to protect it's > profits from an imagined threat to allow equal access to their books by > people who are blind or have low vision. > > Thankfully, progress is being made. The progress that has been and is being > made is fantastic. However, it isn't made by people being complaisant about > the situation. Nor is the progress occurring as quickly as it could. I think > there is vast room for faster improvement and it will require a concerted > effort on the part of many to make it happen. > > On 20 Jan 2013, at 8:08 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > > Unless things have drastically changed, one can definitely scan and OCR > books from the local library. This is unless accessible formats are > available to borrow. It is highly illegal for an individual to share their > book scans / conversions. Bookshare, as a nonprofit entity, can share scans > made by and / or for blind people to other blind people. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 20 Dec 2013, at 8:20, eric oyen wrote: >> >> I can do just that, but the inconvenience of doing so vastly outweighs the >> benefits. Also, there are restrictions in US copyright law that >> specifically prohibits this kind of activity (and there doesn't appear to >> be
Re: command for app delete.
is it free? who is the developer? this way i can be absolutely sure i am in the correct place. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:35 PM, Nicholas Parsons > wrote: > > It's not on your Mac by default and I'm pretty sure it's not on the Mac App > Store. You have to download it from the developer. Try googling it I'm sure > you'll find it. It's a great app, very accessible and much better than just > command-deleting your apps. > Best, > Nic > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: tabs and pages
Hi Anne! No, actually I need to set some right-aligned tab stops. So not all my text will be on the right edge of the page. It needs to be columnar in nature and the tabs will let me do that if I can figure out how to set them. Jim On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:55 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Jim, > > When you say you want your text to be right aligned, do you mean that you > want your text on the right-hand side of the page, or for the right-hand edge > of the text to be aligned? > > To align the text down the right-hand margin, VO-j from the body of the > document to the Formatter and select the Style radio button. Interact with > the scroll area and navigate down to the Horizontal alignment group. Interact > and check the Right check box. > > If you want your text to be on the right-hand side of the page, jump to the > Formatter and select the Layout radio button. Interact with the scroll area > and navigate down to Indents and press VO-Space to expand the disclosure > triangle. Navigate to First and set it to the number of centimetres or inches > you want from the left-hand margin, not the left-hand edge of the paper. Go > right to Left, and enter the same number. VO-j will take you back to your > document. > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 20 Dec 2013, at 08:48, Jim Gatteys wrote: > >> Hi! >> I have text that I want to be right aligned in pages and am trying to set a >> tab that will reflect that. I find a combo box that says left but I can't >> change it to anything else. Any ideas? >> Thanks, >> Jim >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: huge mail problems still
yes, i have this issue too but the items you mentioned are all dimmed for me. how do i change this so i can access them? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:33 PM, Nicholas Parsons > wrote: > > The main problem for me with Mavericks Mail is that the read/unread status of > messages, and the number of messages in the thread, are announced last by > VoiceOver when navigating through the message list. This slows my progress > significantly as I have to wait for VoiceOver to announce everything else > before I get this important information. I'm interested in whether Robert and > others have this issue too, as it seems to me like something that's not > dependant on individual settings. > > My work around for this has been to turn the preview line off in the Viewing > tab of Mail Preferences. This way I don't need to listen to the message read > out before finding out whether it's read or unread, and how many messages > there are in the thread. However, this is a real drawback to me as hearing > the preview often allowed me to dismiss a message quickly without needing to > open it first. > > For clarification, I've been doing this on a 2011 MacBook Air. I use Mail in > standard view with threading turn on and the preview pane fully collapsed. I > read through the list of messages by using the up and down arrows while VO > focus is on the message list. I don't interact with the message list table > and I do not have QuickNav turned on. To read a message, I use command-o to > open it in a new window and then just use the arrow keys to read line by line > etcetera (with, of course, QuickNav still turned off). > > Best, > Nic > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: huge mail problems still
it looks like the only way to change the column order and work with them is to use classic view. Hopefully I am mistaken in this. On Dec 20, 2013, at 6:27 AM, Jessica D wrote: > yes, i have this issue too but the items you mentioned are all dimmed for me. > how do i change this so i can access them? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:33 PM, Nicholas Parsons >> wrote: >> >> The main problem for me with Mavericks Mail is that the read/unread status >> of messages, and the number of messages in the thread, are announced last by >> VoiceOver when navigating through the message list. This slows my progress >> significantly as I have to wait for VoiceOver to announce everything else >> before I get this important information. I'm interested in whether Robert >> and others have this issue too, as it seems to me like something that's not >> dependant on individual settings. >> >> My work around for this has been to turn the preview line off in the Viewing >> tab of Mail Preferences. This way I don't need to listen to the message read >> out before finding out whether it's read or unread, and how many messages >> there are in the thread. However, this is a real drawback to me as hearing >> the preview often allowed me to dismiss a message quickly without needing to >> open it first. >> >> For clarification, I've been doing this on a 2011 MacBook Air. I use Mail in >> standard view with threading turn on and the preview pane fully collapsed. I >> read through the list of messages by using the up and down arrows while VO >> focus is on the message list. I don't interact with the message list table >> and I do not have QuickNav turned on. To read a message, I use command-o to >> open it in a new window and then just use the arrow keys to read line by >> line etcetera (with, of course, QuickNav still turned off). >> >> Best, >> Nic >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: 10.9.1 and brailledisplays
Hi there I still had the same problem pariing my Braille Edge with my Mac after I updated Mavericks. Once I got it paired, it worked fine. With mine, I have to let it fail first, and choose the option button in order to input the code. Here's what worked for me. Make sure to turn the braille display off until you get to the VoiceOver utility. If you don't, you might get the computer demanding the code, never mind that it won't let you type it in. You might have to remove the braille display when the display is off and start over. Then if you let it fail and choose the option button, hopefully the computer will let you type in the access code. I hope yours is not complicated so you can type it in fast, although the last time when I got to the right place, the computer stayed still for me to type it in. I hope all this helps. Oh yes. I had to go through this process again when I did a hardware reset on my Braille Edge 40. I had to do that because for some reason, when I turned the Braille display on, the computer started demanding the code, which it wouldn't give me enough time to type in. Regards, Gigi On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:57 AM, William Windels wrote: > hello, > I haven't installed 10.9 finally since my handytech braille star 80 wasn't > working at all. > > The problems with some brailledisplays in 10.9 are confirmed by apple > accessibility. > so, my question: > does anybody know if the problem with this and/or other braille displays are > solved in 10.9.1? > > kind regards > Mvg > william Windels > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
brailliant braille display and vo
Hi, does anyone here use this display with VO? If so, where can I find documentaion for it’s use? For some reason, the documentation that came with my unit only talks about windows and jaws. sorry for saying that on this list, but that’s the case. I did have a look on the humanware site, but didn’t have any luck myself yesterday. Thanks, all! Caitlyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: command for app delete.
App Delete is $8 and can be found here: http://www.reggieashworth.com/appdelete App Cleaner is another one which is free: http://freemacsoft.net/appcleaner/ App Zapper is another commercial one for $13: http://appzapper.com Clean App is another commercial on which is usually $15 but is on sale for $7.50 until December 27th: http://www.syniumsoftware.com/cleanapp/ CB On 12/20/13 6:48 AM, Jessica D wrote: is it free? who is the developer? this way i can be absolutely sure i am in the correct place. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:35 PM, Nicholas Parsons wrote: It's not on your Mac by default and I'm pretty sure it's not on the Mac App Store. You have to download it from the developer. Try googling it I'm sure you'll find it. It's a great app, very accessible and much better than just command-deleting your apps. Best, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: a word in defense of the Apple accessibility team
As an amusing aside, I knew a guy who used voiceover on his device to read long documents to him while he commuted to work. He had no vision impairments, he just found it useful to be able to have stuff read to him while driving. CB On 12/18/13 11:33 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: oh but of course. After all compare the number of apple screen readers there have been what two? three at most? outspoken which did the job fantastically with apple's input, , still can with the right equipment, then voiceover. because apple understood the importance of including speech for many populations. what always blows my mind though is the assumption that voiceover exists solely for , and benefits only individuals experiencing sight loss. The very idea is a limitation in and of itself. The broader the understanding that there can be more people and more definitions of successful interaction then the one you are personally using, the easier it is to draw others on board for inclusion. just my two cents having only read Tim's comments and not the rest of the thread. Kare On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, Well said David. While I understand people’s frustration and totally despise discrimination, I’m not sure that I fully agree with some of the opinions/comments shared prior to that. I’ll chime in here to express just a few points. Way back when OS X first came out, I recall going down to the city to do some training with Apple and I commented on the lack of a screen reader within the new OS. I had been using OutSpoken for Mac in OS 6 through 9 and was interested in continuing to use the Mac as it evolved. In normal Apple fashion, no real concrete things were said but it certainly was hinted that they were working on something of their own instead of having an outside vender developing such an animal. My point is here that I don’t believe that it was the noise made by the blind community that got Apple on the screen reader and accessibility wagon, I’m pretty sure that it was in the cards for quite a while. I certainly know that magnification and other accessibility features were built right in to the MacOS back in the late 80s,. I don’t believe for a minute that accessibility is not a priority. The old saying that you attract more flies to honey than you do to crap comes to mind. Constructive dialog and collaboration usually get better results than ranting and raving. Expressing frustration and asserting yourself and your rights are fine, but speculation and exaggeration seldom result in positive productivity. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:33 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Wow, such interesting arguments. When eBook readers do not have built-in speakers, speech output is impossible. When the page of the book is a picture of the page, a scanned image, speaking that page is impossible. When the law is written such that the copyright holder has more rights around who can and cannot access the book than the potential reader has, accessing the book may not be legally possible. If you want to just flail around ineffectually making lots of noise but not necessarily getting very far, your stated approach can have limited success. However, would it not be better to learn the specifics in any particular situation so you can actually become effective? For instance, the author's guild is focused on keeping the copyrights law strong since writing and controlling who and how the book is read specifically effects the author's income. Authors do not earn any money for books which are checked out of libraries. However, people who really like books they read in libraries have a greater chance of purchasing their own copy. The argument against text-to-speech in all eReaders has actually been, if text to speech is used, people will not purchase the recorded versions of books, and the recorded versions are much more profitable. This is why NLS is so strict about who can access their professional recordings. When software is being designed, adding text-to-speech is significantly less difficult than adding TTS access at a later date. The same is true for wheelchair access to buildings. Depending on how the code is written, adding TTS and screen-reader navigation may well be extremely complex. In some cases, the entire operating system needs to be rewritten in order to add TTS and spoken navigation. To rewrite an OS can take a few years. You have no idea how long the original software was being developed before the company released the product, so the blanket statement that adding speech is a trivial matter, is completely incorrect in most cases. Bugs should be fixed quickly. I love this statement. It demonstrates complete and total ignorance. Bugs usually take a lot longer to track down and correct than adding new features. Operating systems are extremely complex. Bugs may have several causes. Changing code to repair on
Re: brailliant braille display and vo
Do you live in the United States? If you'd like, I would be glad to assist you. I have a brownie at parent with my Mac. Please send me an email to Kriegler 0...@gmail.com. Or of course, you can just reply to this message. I can call you if you like. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie > wrote: > > Hi, > does anyone here use this display with VO? > If so, where can I find documentaion for it’s use? > For some reason, the documentation that came with my unit only talks about > windows and jaws. sorry for saying that on this list, but that’s the case. > > I did have a look on the humanware site, but didn’t have any luck myself > yesterday. > > Thanks, all! > Caitlyn > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: brailliant braille display and vo
Hi. I use the display every day and what's just fine. If you like to do a tutorial for you of some of the functions just let me know. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:49, Caitlyn and Maggie > wrote: > > Hi, > does anyone here use this display with VO? > If so, where can I find documentaion for it’s use? > For some reason, the documentation that came with my unit only talks about > windows and jaws. sorry for saying that on this list, but that’s the case. > > I did have a look on the humanware site, but didn’t have any luck myself > yesterday. > > Thanks, all! > Caitlyn > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: command for app delete.
Hi Chris, Thanks for all these apps. Do you have a favorite one? Janet On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > App Delete is $8 and can be found here: > > http://www.reggieashworth.com/appdelete > > App Cleaner is another one which is free: > > http://freemacsoft.net/appcleaner/ > > App Zapper is another commercial one for $13: > > http://appzapper.com > > Clean App is another commercial on which is usually $15 but is on sale for > $7.50 until December 27th: > > http://www.syniumsoftware.com/cleanapp/ > > CB > > On 12/20/13 6:48 AM, Jessica D wrote: >> is it free? who is the developer? this way i can be absolutely sure i am in >> the correct place. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:35 PM, Nicholas Parsons >>> wrote: >>> >>> It's not on your Mac by default and I'm pretty sure it's not on the Mac App >>> Store. You have to download it from the developer. Try googling it I'm sure >>> you'll find it. It's a great app, very accessible and much better than just >>> command-deleting your apps. >>> Best, >>> Nic >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: brailliant braille display and vo
Yes, I live in Texas. I did go to the HIMS office last week, and we worked on pairing problems. Right now I've got it working just fine. I heen told by HIMS that now Apple has to fix this problem, and I thought it was getting fixed with 9.1. Maybe it will be 9.2. So, I'm not sure what else you could do. I really thank you for wanting to help with this. Regards, Gigi On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: > Do you live in the United States? If you'd like, I would be glad to assist > you. I have a brownie at parent with my Mac. Please send me an email to > Kriegler 0...@gmail.com. Or of course, you can just reply to this message. I > can call you if you like. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> does anyone here use this display with VO? >> If so, where can I find documentaion for it’s use? >> For some reason, the documentation that came with my unit only talks about >> windows and jaws. sorry for saying that on this list, but that’s the case. >> >> I did have a look on the humanware site, but didn’t have any luck myself >> yesterday. >> >> Thanks, all! >> Caitlyn >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: command for app delete.
can any of these be found in the mac app store? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Janet Ingber wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > Thanks for all these apps. Do you have a favorite one? > > Janet >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >> App Delete is $8 and can be found here: >> >> http://www.reggieashworth.com/appdelete >> >> App Cleaner is another one which is free: >> >> http://freemacsoft.net/appcleaner/ >> >> App Zapper is another commercial one for $13: >> >> http://appzapper.com >> >> Clean App is another commercial on which is usually $15 but is on sale for >> $7.50 until December 27th: >> >> http://www.syniumsoftware.com/cleanapp/ >> >> CB >> >>> On 12/20/13 6:48 AM, Jessica D wrote: >>> is it free? who is the developer? this way i can be absolutely sure i am in >>> the correct place. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:35 PM, Nicholas Parsons wrote: It's not on your Mac by default and I'm pretty sure it's not on the Mac App Store. You have to download it from the developer. Try googling it I'm sure you'll find it. It's a great app, very accessible and much better than just command-deleting your apps. Best, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: brailliant braille display and vo
Any help would be great. I’m not a total newbie to displays, but this one is new to me. the round buttons on the left and right edges are a mystery, for example. Cait On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > Hi. > I use the display every day and what's just fine. If you like to do a > tutorial for you of some of the functions just let me know. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:49, Caitlyn and Maggie >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> does anyone here use this display with VO? >> If so, where can I find documentaion for it’s use? >> For some reason, the documentation that came with my unit only talks about >> windows and jaws. sorry for saying that on this list, but that’s the case. >> >> I did have a look on the humanware site, but didn’t have any luck myself >> yesterday. >> >> Thanks, all! >> Caitlyn >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: brailliant braille display and vo
Hi Kate. Is it the brailliant 32 bi. It is one of the best working displays on both mac and IOS. The best you can do is to pair your display and press vo+k on the mac, and when try to press the buttons, to hear what they are doing. You can also assign the commands for what you want the buttons to do. On the IPhone you can press space+k and try different bottons, and hear the description of what they are doing. Best regards Annie. Den 20 Dec 2013 kl. 16:15 skrev Caitlyn and Maggie : > Any help would be great. > I’m not a total newbie to displays, but this one is new to me. > the round buttons on the left and right edges are a mystery, for example. > Cait > > On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > >> Hi. >> I use the display every day and what's just fine. If you like to do a >> tutorial for you of some of the functions just let me know. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:49, Caitlyn and Maggie >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> does anyone here use this display with VO? >>> If so, where can I find documentaion for it’s use? >>> For some reason, the documentation that came with my unit only talks about >>> windows and jaws. sorry for saying that on this list, but that’s the case. >>> >>> I did have a look on the humanware site, but didn’t have any luck myself >>> yesterday. >>> >>> Thanks, all! >>> Caitlyn >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: brailliant braille display and vo
Those are command buttons. I would like to have a list of commands for the Braiiant and Mac. Would like a tutorial if someone would be kind enough to make one. Hope Paulos > On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie > wrote: > > Any help would be great. > I’m not a total newbie to displays, but this one is new to me. > the round buttons on the left and right edges are a mystery, for example. > Cait > >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Matt Dierckens >> wrote: >> >> Hi. >> I use the display every day and what's just fine. If you like to do a >> tutorial for you of some of the functions just let me know. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:49, Caitlyn and Maggie >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> does anyone here use this display with VO? >>> If so, where can I find documentaion for it’s use? >>> For some reason, the documentation that came with my unit only talks about >>> windows and jaws. sorry for saying that on this list, but that’s the case. >>> >>> I did have a look on the humanware site, but didn’t have any luck myself >>> yesterday. >>> >>> Thanks, all! >>> Caitlyn >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: brailliant braille display and vo
Hi Hope I have a different braille display, but many of the commands are the same for all displays. I have one question. If your display has input keys, and I haven't one like yours yet, I have a file that I can send you that should work for most of your commands. I can't do it right now, but I can send you one later if you want it. Regards, Gigi On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Hope Paulos wrote: > Those are command buttons. I would like to have a list of commands for the > Braiiant and Mac. Would like a tutorial if someone would be kind enough to > make one. > > Hope Paulos > >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie >> wrote: >> >> Any help would be great. >> I’m not a total newbie to displays, but this one is new to me. >> the round buttons on the left and right edges are a mystery, for example. >> Cait >> >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Matt Dierckens >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi. >>> I use the display every day and what's just fine. If you like to do a >>> tutorial for you of some of the functions just let me know. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:49, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote: Hi, does anyone here use this display with VO? If so, where can I find documentaion for it’s use? For some reason, the documentation that came with my unit only talks about windows and jaws. sorry for saying that on this list, but that’s the case. I did have a look on the humanware site, but didn’t have any luck myself yesterday. Thanks, all! Caitlyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: brailliant braille display and vo
Ok, command buttons? What do they do? I’ve used both the focus 80 and the braille sense 32 before, plus the alva. thanks for the help! Cait On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi Hope > I have a different braille display, but many of the commands are the same for > all displays. I have one question. If your display has input keys, and I > haven't one like yours yet, I have a file that I can send you that should > work for most of your commands. I can't do it right now, but I can send you > one later if you want it. > > Regards, > Gigi > > On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Hope Paulos wrote: > >> Those are command buttons. I would like to have a list of commands for the >> Braiiant and Mac. Would like a tutorial if someone would be kind enough to >> make one. >> >> Hope Paulos >> >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie >>> wrote: >>> >>> Any help would be great. >>> I’m not a total newbie to displays, but this one is new to me. >>> the round buttons on the left and right edges are a mystery, for example. >>> Cait >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote: Hi. I use the display every day and what's just fine. If you like to do a tutorial for you of some of the functions just let me know. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:49, Caitlyn and Maggie > wrote: > > Hi, > does anyone here use this display with VO? > If so, where can I find documentaion for it’s use? > For some reason, the documentation that came with my unit only talks > about windows and jaws. sorry for saying that on this list, but that’s > the case. > > I did have a look on the humanware site, but didn’t have any luck myself > yesterday. > > Thanks, all! > Caitlyn > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: brailliant braille display and vo
thanks, Annie! It’s the brailliant 40. and, thanks, aslo, for the tip about vo k. I never remembered about using that for finding out about the braille commands! Silly me! Cait On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Kate. > > Is it the brailliant 32 bi. It is one of the best working displays on both > mac and IOS. > > The best you can do is to pair your display and press vo+k on the mac, and > when try to press the buttons, to hear what they are doing. You can also > assign the commands for what you want the buttons to do. > > On the IPhone you can press space+k and try different bottons, and hear the > description of what they are doing. > > Best regards Annie. > > Den 20 Dec 2013 kl. 16:15 skrev Caitlyn and Maggie > : > >> Any help would be great. >> I’m not a total newbie to displays, but this one is new to me. >> the round buttons on the left and right edges are a mystery, for example. >> Cait >> >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Matt Dierckens >> wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> I use the display every day and what's just fine. If you like to do a >>> tutorial for you of some of the functions just let me know. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:49, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote: Hi, does anyone here use this display with VO? If so, where can I find documentaion for it’s use? For some reason, the documentation that came with my unit only talks about windows and jaws. sorry for saying that on this list, but that’s the case. I did have a look on the humanware site, but didn’t have any luck myself yesterday. Thanks, all! Caitlyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: brailliant braille display and vo
To be honest am not sure. Lol. Just looked them up in description. I have the BI 32 model. Hope Paulos > On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie > wrote: > > Ok, command buttons? What do they do? > > I’ve used both the focus 80 and the braille sense 32 before, plus the alva. > > thanks for the help! > Cait > >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >> Hi Hope >> I have a different braille display, but many of the commands are the same >> for all displays. I have one question. If your display has input keys, and I >> haven't one like yours yet, I have a file that I can send you that should >> work for most of your commands. I can't do it right now, but I can send you >> one later if you want it. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Hope Paulos wrote: >>> >>> Those are command buttons. I would like to have a list of commands for the >>> Braiiant and Mac. Would like a tutorial if someone would be kind enough to >>> make one. >>> >>> Hope Paulos >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote: Any help would be great. I’m not a total newbie to displays, but this one is new to me. the round buttons on the left and right edges are a mystery, for example. Cait > On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Matt Dierckens > wrote: > > Hi. > I use the display every day and what's just fine. If you like to do a > tutorial for you of some of the functions just let me know. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:49, Caitlyn and Maggie >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> does anyone here use this display with VO? >> If so, where can I find documentaion for it’s use? >> For some reason, the documentation that came with my unit only talks >> about windows and jaws. sorry for saying that on this list, but that’s >> the case. >> >> I did have a look on the humanware site, but didn’t have any luck myself >> yesterday. >> >> Thanks, all! >> Caitlyn >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are sub
Re: brailliant braille display and vo
i just looked and the “its on the left move up and down. The “its on the right interact and uninteract. Kinda neat! Cait On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Hope Paulos wrote: > To be honest am not sure. Lol. Just looked them up in description. I have the > BI 32 model. > > Hope Paulos > >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie >> wrote: >> >> Ok, command buttons? What do they do? >> >> I’ve used both the focus 80 and the braille sense 32 before, plus the alva. >> >> thanks for the help! >> Cait >> >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>> >>> Hi Hope >>> I have a different braille display, but many of the commands are the same >>> for all displays. I have one question. If your display has input keys, and >>> I haven't one like yours yet, I have a file that I can send you that should >>> work for most of your commands. I can't do it right now, but I can send you >>> one later if you want it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Hope Paulos wrote: Those are command buttons. I would like to have a list of commands for the Braiiant and Mac. Would like a tutorial if someone would be kind enough to make one. Hope Paulos > On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie > wrote: > > Any help would be great. > I’m not a total newbie to displays, but this one is new to me. > the round buttons on the left and right edges are a mystery, for example. > Cait > >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Matt Dierckens >> wrote: >> >> Hi. >> I use the display every day and what's just fine. If you like to do a >> tutorial for you of some of the functions just let me know. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:49, Caitlyn and Maggie >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> does anyone here use this display with VO? >>> If so, where can I find documentaion for it’s use? >>> For some reason, the documentation that came with my unit only talks >>> about windows and jaws. sorry for saying that on this list, but that’s >>> the case. >>> >>> I did have a look on the humanware site, but didn’t have any luck >>> myself yesterday. >>> >>> Thanks, all! >>> Caitlyn >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macv
Taggin on Facebook
Hi all, Anyone out there that uses menuTab for Facebook? Have you figured out how to tag friends? I’ve been so close, but no cigar, as they say. I have a feeling I really need to manipulate the mouse with VO; this is not my strength. :) Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Taggin on Facebook
Hi, If you are using the desktop layout you type the at sign @ and then start typing their name. When you've typed enough, it will be filled in for you and you simply press return to enter it. Cheers Dave On 20 Dec 2013, at 16:23, Traci Duncan wrote: > Hi all, > > Anyone out there that uses menuTab for Facebook? Have you figured out how to > tag friends? I’ve been so close, but no cigar, as they say. > > I have a feeling I really need to manipulate the mouse with VO; this is not > my strength. :) > > Traci > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Taggin on Facebook
How is tagging done in the Facebook mobile layout on Facebook itself? On 2013-12-20, at 11:42 AM, David Taylor wrote: > Hi, > > If you are using the desktop layout you type the at sign @ and then start > typing their name. When you've typed enough, it will be filled in for you and > you simply press return to enter it. > > Cheers > Dave > > On 20 Dec 2013, at 16:23, Traci Duncan wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Anyone out there that uses menuTab for Facebook? Have you figured out how >> to tag friends? I’ve been so close, but no cigar, as they say. >> >> I have a feeling I really need to manipulate the mouse with VO; this is not >> my strength. :) >> >> Traci >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating iTunes Radio on the Mac
Hello, I’m not sure if it is any different between Lion & Mavericks…. Some tips to keep in mind is interacting and VO-J. I find myself doing this a lot. Once I have VO-spaced on my station, I interact with it and press play. Then I VO-J over into the lcd section. This is where the station name and track info is. There is an action button. VO-space on this then arrow down and up for your options. This is where you select play more like this or never play this song again, etc. Good luck, Traci On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > For the record, I'm using Lion on a Mac Mini. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: huge mail problems still
Hi Nicholas, Yes I get conversation thread information announced last too, but it has stopped bothering me. If I want to know if something is a conversation, I press right arrow. If it opens. it is a conversation, and if it doesn’t open, it’s not a conversation. Cheers Lisette . On 20/12/2013, at 5:33 pm, Nicholas Parsons wrote: > The main problem for me with Mavericks Mail is that the read/unread status of > messages, and the number of messages in the thread, are announced last by > VoiceOver when navigating through the message list. This slows my progress > significantly as I have to wait for VoiceOver to announce everything else > before I get this important information. I'm interested in whether Robert and > others have this issue too, as it seems to me like something that's not > dependant on individual settings. > > My work around for this has been to turn the preview line off in the Viewing > tab of Mail Preferences. This way I don't need to listen to the message read > out before finding out whether it's read or unread, and how many messages > there are in the thread. However, this is a real drawback to me as hearing > the preview often allowed me to dismiss a message quickly without needing to > open it first. > > For clarification, I've been doing this on a 2011 MacBook Air. I use Mail in > standard view with threading turn on and the preview pane fully collapsed. I > read through the list of messages by using the up and down arrows while VO > focus is on the message list. I don't interact with the message list table > and I do not have QuickNav turned on. To read a message, I use command-o to > open it in a new window and then just use the arrow keys to read line by line > etcetera (with, of course, QuickNav still turned off). > > Best, > Nic > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: tabs and pages
Hello Jim, The easiest way to do what you want is to jump to the Formatter and select the Layout radio button. Interact with the scroll area, and the first item is Columns. Set the number of columns and expand the disclosure triangle. You can then set the width of each column and the size of the gutter between them. Cheers, Anne On 20 Dec 2013, at 13:04, Jim Gatteys wrote: > Hi Anne! > No, actually I need to set some right-aligned tab stops. So not all my text > will be on the right edge of the page. It needs to be columnar in nature and > the tabs will let me do that if I can figure out how to set them. > Jim > > On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:55 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Jim, >> >> When you say you want your text to be right aligned, do you mean that you >> want your text on the right-hand side of the page, or for the right-hand >> edge of the text to be aligned? >> >> To align the text down the right-hand margin, VO-j from the body of the >> document to the Formatter and select the Style radio button. Interact with >> the scroll area and navigate down to the Horizontal alignment group. >> Interact and check the Right check box. >> >> If you want your text to be on the right-hand side of the page, jump to the >> Formatter and select the Layout radio button. Interact with the scroll area >> and navigate down to Indents and press VO-Space to expand the disclosure >> triangle. Navigate to First and set it to the number of centimetres or >> inches you want from the left-hand margin, not the left-hand edge of the >> paper. Go right to Left, and enter the same number. VO-j will take you back >> to your document. >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 20 Dec 2013, at 08:48, Jim Gatteys wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> I have text that I want to be right aligned in pages and am trying to set a >>> tab that will reflect that. I find a combo box that says left but I can't >>> change it to anything else. Any ideas? >>> Thanks, >>> Jim >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Mavericks Safari
Dear List I have safari set to open pages in new tabs not new windows in preferences, and yet whenever I click a link on a website it opens it in an untitled window ,it doesn't say new tab. Is there a shortcut for cycling through tabs in safari and closing them? I struggle with closing windows command tab doesn't seem to move me through all the windows it just seems to take me to the first window of each application, and command w is inconsistent,and usually brings up mission control, I just want to kill the current window I don't want mission control. When reading something in the untitled windowvoice over sometimes jumps back to the previous safari window for no apparent reason. Many Thanks, Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: huge mail problems still
Hi, Perhaps I am not in quite as much of a hurry as some people. For me, however, having the information read in the order that it is presented works well for me. I hear the subject a brief preview and whether or not the message is part of a thread. I listen to as little or as much of this information as needed with the goal of making a decision regarding whether or not I want to read more of the message or simply move on. This approach seems just perfect to me. Robert Carter Sent from my iPad > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Lisette Wesseling > wrote: > > Hi Nicholas, > Yes I get conversation thread information announced last too, but it has > stopped bothering me. If I want to know if something is a conversation, I > press right arrow. If it opens. it is a conversation, and if it doesn’t > open, it’s not a conversation. > > Cheers > Lisette > . >> On 20/12/2013, at 5:33 pm, Nicholas Parsons >> wrote: >> >> The main problem for me with Mavericks Mail is that the read/unread status >> of messages, and the number of messages in the thread, are announced last by >> VoiceOver when navigating through the message list. This slows my progress >> significantly as I have to wait for VoiceOver to announce everything else >> before I get this important information. I'm interested in whether Robert >> and others have this issue too, as it seems to me like something that's not >> dependant on individual settings. >> >> My work around for this has been to turn the preview line off in the Viewing >> tab of Mail Preferences. This way I don't need to listen to the message read >> out before finding out whether it's read or unread, and how many messages >> there are in the thread. However, this is a real drawback to me as hearing >> the preview often allowed me to dismiss a message quickly without needing to >> open it first. >> >> For clarification, I've been doing this on a 2011 MacBook Air. I use Mail in >> standard view with threading turn on and the preview pane fully collapsed. I >> read through the list of messages by using the up and down arrows while VO >> focus is on the message list. I don't interact with the message list table >> and I do not have QuickNav turned on. To read a message, I use command-o to >> open it in a new window and then just use the arrow keys to read line by >> line etcetera (with, of course, QuickNav still turned off). >> >> Best, >> Nic >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Java on the Mac
Dear List there is one particular website that I need to access which uses java. I know it has a terrible reputation regarding security and so wondered what the safest way is to get java on a mac, ideally without just searching on google as I know there are fake plugins that have caused problems in the past. Many Thanks, Lee ,, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: tabs and pages
What I really needed was to be ab le to set tab stops like I mentioned in an earlier email. I finally figured out how to do it. The column restraints would not work for what I need. Tab stops will do the trick. I can find them on the ruler then double click them to change the tab stop type to left, right, or centered or decimal for that matter. Jim On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Jim, > > The easiest way to do what you want is to jump to the Formatter and select > the Layout radio button. Interact with the scroll area, and the first item is > Columns. Set the number of columns and expand the disclosure triangle. You > can then set the width of each column and the size of the gutter between them. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 20 Dec 2013, at 13:04, Jim Gatteys wrote: > >> Hi Anne! >> No, actually I need to set some right-aligned tab stops. So not all my text >> will be on the right edge of the page. It needs to be columnar in nature >> and the tabs will let me do that if I can figure out how to set them. >> Jim >> >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:55 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello Jim, >>> >>> When you say you want your text to be right aligned, do you mean that you >>> want your text on the right-hand side of the page, or for the right-hand >>> edge of the text to be aligned? >>> >>> To align the text down the right-hand margin, VO-j from the body of the >>> document to the Formatter and select the Style radio button. Interact with >>> the scroll area and navigate down to the Horizontal alignment group. >>> Interact and check the Right check box. >>> >>> If you want your text to be on the right-hand side of the page, jump to the >>> Formatter and select the Layout radio button. Interact with the scroll area >>> and navigate down to Indents and press VO-Space to expand the disclosure >>> triangle. Navigate to First and set it to the number of centimetres or >>> inches you want from the left-hand margin, not the left-hand edge of the >>> paper. Go right to Left, and enter the same number. VO-j will take you back >>> to your document. >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 08:48, Jim Gatteys wrote: >>> Hi! I have text that I want to be right aligned in pages and am trying to set a tab that will reflect that. I find a combo box that says left but I can't change it to anything else. Any ideas? Thanks, Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Mavericks 10.9.2 may not be far off
I'm surprised I haven't seen the below article already mentioned on the list. For those who aren't happy with the number of Voiceover changes in 10.9.1, Voiceover is apparently still on the radar for 10.9.2. Just days after 10.9.1 update, Apple preps OS X Mavericks for 10.9.2 http://cnet.co/1hr2bEr -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Java on the Mac
java.com should work fine. Be sure that the url do not have any strange letters. Downloaded java myself today. Go to safari preferences and place a checkmark for enable java script, checkmark for enable java. Turn off safari after download. After installation safari opens in the background. You will be brought to javas verification window. You may need sighted help to run the java tool to install the app in safari and verify. Oracle is updating java now. Not Apple. Apple considered it to be more safe since Oracle developes java. According to statements in another forum. Take care -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: tabs and pages
How would a voiceover user do this? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 20, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: > > What I really needed was to be ab le to set tab stops like I mentioned in an > earlier email. I finally figured out how to do it. The column restraints > would not work for what I need. Tab stops will do the trick. I can find > them on the ruler then double click them to change the tab stop type to left, > right, or centered or decimal for that matter. > Jim > >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >> Hello Jim, >> >> The easiest way to do what you want is to jump to the Formatter and select >> the Layout radio button. Interact with the scroll area, and the first item >> is Columns. Set the number of columns and expand the disclosure triangle. >> You can then set the width of each column and the size of the gutter between >> them. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 13:04, Jim Gatteys wrote: >>> >>> Hi Anne! >>> No, actually I need to set some right-aligned tab stops. So not all my >>> text will be on the right edge of the page. It needs to be columnar in >>> nature and the tabs will let me do that if I can figure out how to set them. >>> Jim >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:55 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Jim, When you say you want your text to be right aligned, do you mean that you want your text on the right-hand side of the page, or for the right-hand edge of the text to be aligned? To align the text down the right-hand margin, VO-j from the body of the document to the Formatter and select the Style radio button. Interact with the scroll area and navigate down to the Horizontal alignment group. Interact and check the Right check box. If you want your text to be on the right-hand side of the page, jump to the Formatter and select the Layout radio button. Interact with the scroll area and navigate down to Indents and press VO-Space to expand the disclosure triangle. Navigate to First and set it to the number of centimetres or inches you want from the left-hand margin, not the left-hand edge of the paper. Go right to Left, and enter the same number. VO-j will take you back to your document. Cheers, Anne > On 20 Dec 2013, at 08:48, Jim Gatteys wrote: > > Hi! > I have text that I want to be right aligned in pages and am trying to set > a tab that will reflect that. I find a combo box that says left but I > can't change it to anything else. Any ideas? > Thanks, > Jim > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://group
RE: huge mail problems still
Hi, The other thing I have noticed is if I don't want to read the email or interact with it using VO-J, I tap on the delete key quickly and I don't hear the number of emails total, unread mail, etc. This has worked well. I am getting better at this and thanks to you Robert, I love that VO-J command. Eileen -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Carter Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: huge mail problems still Hi, Perhaps I am not in quite as much of a hurry as some people. For me, however, having the information read in the order that it is presented works well for me. I hear the subject a brief preview and whether or not the message is part of a thread. I listen to as little or as much of this information as needed with the goal of making a decision regarding whether or not I want to read more of the message or simply move on. This approach seems just perfect to me. Robert Carter Sent from my iPad > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: > > Hi Nicholas, > Yes I get conversation thread information announced last too, but it has stopped bothering me. If I want to know if something is a conversation, I press right arrow. If it opens. it is a conversation, and if it doesn't open, it's not a conversation. > > Cheers > Lisette > . >> On 20/12/2013, at 5:33 pm, Nicholas Parsons wrote: >> >> The main problem for me with Mavericks Mail is that the read/unread status of messages, and the number of messages in the thread, are announced last by VoiceOver when navigating through the message list. This slows my progress significantly as I have to wait for VoiceOver to announce everything else before I get this important information. I'm interested in whether Robert and others have this issue too, as it seems to me like something that's not dependant on individual settings. >> >> My work around for this has been to turn the preview line off in the Viewing tab of Mail Preferences. This way I don't need to listen to the message read out before finding out whether it's read or unread, and how many messages there are in the thread. However, this is a real drawback to me as hearing the preview often allowed me to dismiss a message quickly without needing to open it first. >> >> For clarification, I've been doing this on a 2011 MacBook Air. I use Mail in standard view with threading turn on and the preview pane fully collapsed. I read through the list of messages by using the up and down arrows while VO focus is on the message list. I don't interact with the message list table and I do not have QuickNav turned on. To read a message, I use command-o to open it in a new window and then just use the arrow keys to read line by line etcetera (with, of course, QuickNav still turned off). >> >> Best, >> Nic >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: a word in defense of the Apple accessibility team
I think as far as the copyright law is concern, it only covers for educational purposes and if you want to scan the entire book out of the educational purposes it is still consider illegal. Legally, in common cases, you only allow to scan 10% or 1 chapter of a book. As far as there is no equal access in the library is concern, there are getting more libraries using online ELibrary media, e.g. Overdrive media etc. You can easily browse, select, hold and borrow EItems from your fingers tip so do speak. Overdrive media has been around for years. And, if you are active enough to request at your local library, there are more likely to have it. If not, keep requesting, all the numbers adding up at the end. Joanne Chua Send from my iPad > On 21 Dec 2013, at 1:29, Chris Blouch wrote: > > As an amusing aside, I knew a guy who used voiceover on his device to read > long documents to him while he commuted to work. He had no vision > impairments, he just found it useful to be able to have stuff read to him > while driving. > > CB > >> On 12/18/13 11:33 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> oh but of course. >> After all compare the number of apple screen readers there have been what >> two? three at most? outspoken which did the job fantastically with apple's >> input, , still can with the right equipment, then voiceover. because apple >> understood the importance of including speech for many populations. >> what always blows my mind though is the assumption that voiceover exists >> solely for , and benefits only individuals experiencing sight loss. The very >> idea is a limitation in and of itself. >> The broader the understanding that there can be more people and more >> definitions of successful interaction then the one you are personally using, >> the easier it is to draw others on board for inclusion. >> just my two cents having only read Tim's comments and not the rest of the >> thread. >> Kare >> >>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Well said David. While I understand people’s frustration and totally >>> despise discrimination, I’m not sure that I fully agree with some of the >>> opinions/comments shared prior to that. >>> >>> I’ll chime in here to express just a few points. Way back when OS X first >>> came out, I recall going down to the city to do some training with Apple >>> and I commented on the lack of a screen reader within the new OS. I had >>> been using OutSpoken for Mac in OS 6 through 9 and was interested in >>> continuing to use the Mac as it evolved. In normal Apple fashion, no real >>> concrete things were said but it certainly was hinted that they were >>> working on something of their own instead of having an outside vender >>> developing such an animal. My point is here that I don’t believe that it >>> was the noise made by the blind community that got Apple on the screen >>> reader and accessibility wagon, I’m pretty sure that it was in the cards >>> for quite a while. I certainly know that magnification and other >>> accessibility features were built right in to the MacOS back in the late >>> 80s,. I don’t believe for a minute that accessibility is not a priority. >>> >>> The old saying that you attract more flies to honey than you do to crap >>> comes to mind. Constructive dialog and collaboration usually get better >>> results than ranting and raving. Expressing frustration and asserting >>> yourself and your rights are fine, but speculation and exaggeration seldom >>> result in positive productivity. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:33 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Wow, such interesting arguments. When eBook readers do not have built-in speakers, speech output is impossible. When the page of the book is a picture of the page, a scanned image, speaking that page is impossible. When the law is written such that the copyright holder has more rights around who can and cannot access the book than the potential reader has, accessing the book may not be legally possible. If you want to just flail around ineffectually making lots of noise but not necessarily getting very far, your stated approach can have limited success. However, would it not be better to learn the specifics in any particular situation so you can actually become effective? For instance, the author's guild is focused on keeping the copyrights law strong since writing and controlling who and how the book is read specifically effects the author's income. Authors do not earn any money for books which are checked out of libraries. However, people who really like books they read in libraries have a greater chance of purchasing their own copy. The argument against text-to-speech in all eReaders has actually been, if text to speech is used, people will not purchase the recorded versions of >
Re: a word in defense of the Apple accessibility team
This is one of them laws that is there but really can't be upheld unless you are scanning the book to keep around after you turn it back into the library or redistributing it. Otherwise, noone really knows you scanned more than 10% of the book and you're at complete liberty to scan and read it. Unless you call the publishers and say "look here, I'm scanning the entire book" you should be fine. On 12/20/2013 6:21 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: I think as far as the copyright law is concern, it only covers for educational purposes and if you want to scan the entire book out of the educational purposes it is still consider illegal. Legally, in common cases, you only allow to scan 10% or 1 chapter of a book. As far as there is no equal access in the library is concern, there are getting more libraries using online ELibrary media, e.g. Overdrive media etc. You can easily browse, select, hold and borrow EItems from your fingers tip so do speak. Overdrive media has been around for years. And, if you are active enough to request at your local library, there are more likely to have it. If not, keep requesting, all the numbers adding up at the end. Joanne Chua Send from my iPad On 21 Dec 2013, at 1:29, Chris Blouch wrote: As an amusing aside, I knew a guy who used voiceover on his device to read long documents to him while he commuted to work. He had no vision impairments, he just found it useful to be able to have stuff read to him while driving. CB On 12/18/13 11:33 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: oh but of course. After all compare the number of apple screen readers there have been what two? three at most? outspoken which did the job fantastically with apple's input, , still can with the right equipment, then voiceover. because apple understood the importance of including speech for many populations. what always blows my mind though is the assumption that voiceover exists solely for , and benefits only individuals experiencing sight loss. The very idea is a limitation in and of itself. The broader the understanding that there can be more people and more definitions of successful interaction then the one you are personally using, the easier it is to draw others on board for inclusion. just my two cents having only read Tim's comments and not the rest of the thread. Kare On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, Well said David. While I understand people’s frustration and totally despise discrimination, I’m not sure that I fully agree with some of the opinions/comments shared prior to that. I’ll chime in here to express just a few points. Way back when OS X first came out, I recall going down to the city to do some training with Apple and I commented on the lack of a screen reader within the new OS. I had been using OutSpoken for Mac in OS 6 through 9 and was interested in continuing to use the Mac as it evolved. In normal Apple fashion, no real concrete things were said but it certainly was hinted that they were working on something of their own instead of having an outside vender developing such an animal. My point is here that I don’t believe that it was the noise made by the blind community that got Apple on the screen reader and accessibility wagon, I’m pretty sure that it was in the cards for quite a while. I certainly know that magnification and other accessibility features were built right in to the MacOS back in the late 80s,. I don’t believe for a minute that accessibility is not a priority. The old saying that you attract more flies to honey than you do to crap comes to mind. Constructive dialog and collaboration usually get better results than ranting and raving. Expressing frustration and asserting yourself and your rights are fine, but speculation and exaggeration seldom result in positive productivity. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:33 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Wow, such interesting arguments. When eBook readers do not have built-in speakers, speech output is impossible. When the page of the book is a picture of the page, a scanned image, speaking that page is impossible. When the law is written such that the copyright holder has more rights around who can and cannot access the book than the potential reader has, accessing the book may not be legally possible. If you want to just flail around ineffectually making lots of noise but not necessarily getting very far, your stated approach can have limited success. However, would it not be better to learn the specifics in any particular situation so you can actually become effective? For instance, the author's guild is focused on keeping the copyrights law strong since writing and controlling who and how the book is read specifically effects the author's income. Authors do not earn any money for books which are checked out of libraries. However, people who really like books they read in libraries have a greater chance of purchasing their own copy. The ar
Re: Navigating iTunes Radio on the Mac
Can't always get stations to start/stop with space. I do interact. but behavior isn't consistent. there's got to be something I'm not doing consistently. I'll keep working on it. thanks for the heads up on action menu. Kevin On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Traci Duncan wrote: > Hello, I’m not sure if it is any different between Lion & Mavericks…. > > Some tips to keep in mind is interacting and VO-J. I find myself doing this > a lot. Once I have VO-spaced on my station, I interact with it and press > play. Then I VO-J over into the lcd section. This is where the station name > and track info is. There is an action button. VO-space on this then arrow > down and up for your options. This is where you select play more like this > or never play this song again, etc. > > Good luck, > Traci > > On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > >> For the record, I'm using Lion on a Mac Mini. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/macvisionaries/AHjjLbhr9ok/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating iTunes Radio on the Mac
Okay. I just found the Play button and the action menu you're talking about. I never could find them before. But now I think I can hit them consistently. big help. thanks, Kevin On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Traci Duncan wrote: > Hello, I’m not sure if it is any different between Lion & Mavericks…. > > Some tips to keep in mind is interacting and VO-J. I find myself doing this > a lot. Once I have VO-spaced on my station, I interact with it and press > play. Then I VO-J over into the lcd section. This is where the station name > and track info is. There is an action button. VO-space on this then arrow > down and up for your options. This is where you select play more like this > or never play this song again, etc. > > Good luck, > Traci > > On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > >> For the record, I'm using Lion on a Mac Mini. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/macvisionaries/AHjjLbhr9ok/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating iTunes Radio on the Mac
Hello, Here's another issue I just ran into. I was going to apply the tips stated below in navigating the radio in iTunes. This is what I did and the results. 1. Opened iTunes and VO-space on radio. 2. Tabbed over to My Stations and interacted with it. 3. Highlighted a station and VO-space on in. 4. Interacted with that selection, but I received an error message stating that there was no selections. 5. I repeated this with other stations and received the same results. Am I doing something incorrectly? Please advise and make suggestions on how I can get my stations to play. Since I couldn't interact with the station, I wasn't able to activate the play button after interacting with the station. Thanks in advance. Best, Eileen On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > Can't always get stations to start/stop with space. I do interact. but > behavior isn't consistent. there's got to be something I'm not doing > consistently. I'll keep working on it. thanks for the heads up on action > menu. > > Kevin > > On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Tract Duncan wrote: > >> Hello, I’m not sure if it is any different between Lion & Mavericks…. >> >> Some tips to keep in mind is interacting and VO-J. I find myself doing this >> a lot. Once I have VO-spaced on my station, I interact with it and press >> play. Then I VO-J over into the lcd section. This is where the station >> name and track info is. There is an action button. VO-space on this then >> arrow down and up for your options. This is where you select play more like >> this or never play this song again, etc. >> >> Good luck, >> Traci >> >> On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: >> >>> For the record, I'm using Lion on a Mac Mini. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/macvisionaries/AHjjLbhr9ok/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
fbcmd download
I just scanned a discussion of this terminal app when it came up recently. Can someone tell me where it can be downloaded? Thanks XB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: fbcmd download
You don’t need to. It’s built in already. It’s the Unix shell command line actually. Get to it from the Utilities folder. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Dec 20, 2013, at 6:16 PM, - wrote: > > I just scanned a discussion of this terminal app when it came up recently. > Can someone tell me where it can be downloaded? > > Thanks > > XB > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating iTunes Radio on the Mac
Those buttons are in the LCD section. Go to it with vo left arrow, interact with ith it by doing vo shift down arrow Arrow until you hear what you are looking for then stop interacting, and press vo space. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 20, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote: > > Hello, > > Here's another issue I just ran into. I was going to apply the tips stated > below in navigating the radio in iTunes. This is what I did and the results. > > 1. Opened iTunes and VO-space on radio. > 2. Tabbed over to My Stations and interacted with it. > 3. Highlighted a station and VO-space on in. > 4. Interacted with that selection, but I received an error message stating > that there was no selections. > 5. I repeated this with other stations and received the same results. > > Am I doing something incorrectly? Please advise and make suggestions on how I > can get my stations to play. Since I couldn't interact with the station, I > wasn't able to activate the play button after interacting with the station. > > Thanks in advance. > > Best, > Eileen >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: >> >> Can't always get stations to start/stop with space. I do interact. but >> behavior isn't consistent. there's got to be something I'm not doing >> consistently. I'll keep working on it. thanks for the heads up on action >> menu. >> >> Kevin >> >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Tract Duncan wrote: >>> >>> Hello, I’m not sure if it is any different between Lion & Mavericks…. >>> >>> Some tips to keep in mind is interacting and VO-J. I find myself doing >>> this a lot. Once I have VO-spaced on my station, I interact with it and >>> press play. Then I VO-J over into the lcd section. This is where the >>> station name and track info is. There is an action button. VO-space on >>> this then arrow down and up for your options. This is where you select >>> play more like this or never play this song again, etc. >>> >>> Good luck, >>> Traci >>> On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: For the record, I'm using Lion on a Mac Mini. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/macvisionaries/AHjjLbhr9ok/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: a word in defense of the Apple accessibility team
hi. Chris, that is what i have done, take one mac mini, an inverter,an fm thingie, and you're golden smiles. The sound from the computer will come out over the cars stereo, it may not look drop-dead gorgeous, but as the Falcon from star wars, both car and set up got it where it counts. Tyler, am with ya on that one, am not sure about the laws in Europe, but yay, i see it kinda like this, if they can't give equal access too all, blind, deflexic blah blah blah included, well what am a girl to do? put it in her scanner, and read it cheerfully and well when done , delete it , obviously. There is another cool thing by scanning your books, you can get a tons more stuff about one single subject than if you use say audio books, however that is a whole other story On 12/20/13, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > This is one of them laws that is there but really can't be upheld > unless you are scanning the book to keep around after you turn it back > into the library or redistributing it. Otherwise, noone really knows you > scanned more than 10% of the book and you're at complete liberty to scan > and read it. Unless you call the publishers and say "look here, I'm > scanning the entire book" you should be fine. > On 12/20/2013 6:21 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: >> I think as far as the copyright law is concern, it only covers for >> educational purposes and if you want to scan the entire book out of the >> educational purposes it is still consider illegal. Legally, in common >> cases, you only allow to scan 10% or 1 chapter of a book. >> As far as there is no equal access in the library is concern, there are >> getting more libraries using online ELibrary media, e.g. Overdrive media >> etc. You can easily browse, select, hold and borrow EItems from your >> fingers tip so do speak. >> Overdrive media has been around for years. And, if you are active enough >> to request at your local library, there are more likely to have it. If >> not, keep requesting, all the numbers adding up at the end. >> >> >> Joanne Chua >> Send from my iPad >> >>> On 21 Dec 2013, at 1:29, Chris Blouch wrote: >>> >>> As an amusing aside, I knew a guy who used voiceover on his device to >>> read long documents to him while he commuted to work. He had no vision >>> impairments, he just found it useful to be able to have stuff read to him >>> while driving. >>> >>> CB >>> On 12/18/13 11:33 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: oh but of course. After all compare the number of apple screen readers there have been what two? three at most? outspoken which did the job fantastically with apple's input, , still can with the right equipment, then voiceover. because apple understood the importance of including speech for many populations. what always blows my mind though is the assumption that voiceover exists solely for , and benefits only individuals experiencing sight loss. The very idea is a limitation in and of itself. The broader the understanding that there can be more people and more definitions of successful interaction then the one you are personally using, the easier it is to draw others on board for inclusion. just my two cents having only read Tim's comments and not the rest of the thread. Kare > On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > Well said David. While I understand people’s frustration and totally > despise discrimination, I’m not sure that I fully agree with some of > the opinions/comments shared prior to that. > > I’ll chime in here to express just a few points. Way back when OS X > first came out, I recall going down to the city to do some training > with Apple and I commented on the lack of a screen reader within the > new OS. I had been using OutSpoken for Mac in OS 6 through 9 and was > interested in continuing to use the Mac as it evolved. In normal Apple > fashion, no real concrete things were said but it certainly was hinted > that they were working on something of their own instead of having an > outside vender developing such an animal. My point is here that I don’t > believe that it was the noise made by the blind community that got > Apple on the screen reader and accessibility wagon, I’m pretty sure > that it was in the cards for quite a while. I certainly know that > magnification and other accessibility features were built right in to > the MacOS back in the late 80s,. I don’t believe for a minute that > accessibility is not a priority. > > The old saying that you attract more flies to honey than you do to crap > comes to mind. Constructive dialog and collaboration usually get better > results than ranting and raving. Expressing frustration and asserting > yourself and your rights are fine, but speculation and exaggeration > seldom result in positive productivity. > > Later… > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canad
Re: tabs and pages
Once the tabs are set you access the ruler with command-r and the tabs show up there. then you can route mouse to them and double click the trackpad or mouse. On Dec 20, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Jessica D wrote: > How would a voiceover user do this? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 20, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: >> >> What I really needed was to be ab le to set tab stops like I mentioned in an >> earlier email. I finally figured out how to do it. The column restraints >> would not work for what I need. Tab stops will do the trick. I can find >> them on the ruler then double click them to change the tab stop type to >> left, right, or centered or decimal for that matter. >> Jim >> >>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> >>> Hello Jim, >>> >>> The easiest way to do what you want is to jump to the Formatter and select >>> the Layout radio button. Interact with the scroll area, and the first item >>> is Columns. Set the number of columns and expand the disclosure triangle. >>> You can then set the width of each column and the size of the gutter >>> between them. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 13:04, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi Anne! No, actually I need to set some right-aligned tab stops. So not all my text will be on the right edge of the page. It needs to be columnar in nature and the tabs will let me do that if I can figure out how to set them. Jim > On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:55 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Jim, > > When you say you want your text to be right aligned, do you mean that you > want your text on the right-hand side of the page, or for the right-hand > edge of the text to be aligned? > > To align the text down the right-hand margin, VO-j from the body of the > document to the Formatter and select the Style radio button. Interact > with the scroll area and navigate down to the Horizontal alignment group. > Interact and check the Right check box. > > If you want your text to be on the right-hand side of the page, jump to > the Formatter and select the Layout radio button. Interact with the > scroll area and navigate down to Indents and press VO-Space to expand the > disclosure triangle. Navigate to First and set it to the number of > centimetres or inches you want from the left-hand margin, not the > left-hand edge of the paper. Go right to Left, and enter the same number. > VO-j will take you back to your document. > Cheers, > > Anne > > >> On 20 Dec 2013, at 08:48, Jim Gatteys wrote: >> >> Hi! >> I have text that I want to be right aligned in pages and am trying to >> set a tab that will reflect that. I find a combo box that says left but >> I can't change it to anything else. Any ideas? >> Thanks, >> Jim >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVis
Re: fbcmd download
Here's a link to the wiki: http://fbcmd.dtompkins.com HtH, teresa Sent using Alpine messaging system in Mac OS X Terminal On Fri, 20 Dec 2013, - wrote: I just scanned a discussion of this terminal app when it came up recently. Can someone tell me where it can be downloaded? Thanks XB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: fbcmd download
Ray, this is not so. Fbcmd is a php script that you have to install. HtH, Teresa Sent using Alpine messaging system in Mac OS X Terminal On Fri, 20 Dec 2013, Ray Foret Jr wrote: You don’t need to. It’s built in already. It’s the Unix shell command line actually. Get to it from the Utilities folder. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Dec 20, 2013, at 6:16 PM, - wrote: I just scanned a discussion of this terminal app when it came up recently. Can someone tell me where it can be downloaded? Thanks XB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VM Fusion and Window-Eyes
Cool! I just had help Installing Windows 7 on my Mac yesterday and I have NVDA installed. Since I’m really new to accessabilty, did you needed help installing Windows 7? Also do you know how to get more than two OS on a Mac? I heard that Bootcamp won’t allow you to have more than two. Thanks! Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Dec 19, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Jody Peterson wrote: > All, > > I have set up a bootcamp partition and I have Windows7 running on it with > Jaws 15. This works very well . I used SharpKeys to swap the command and > option keys when in the bootcamp setup. I have also installed the keyboard > hack and keyremap for macbook stuff to allow me to use the caps lock key for > a screen reader modifier. So, all is well in bootcamp land. > > I also used VMWare Fusion 6 to import my bootcamp partition as a VM. > > I am having a problem though that has been discussed on the list before > although I don’t believe I have seen a solution. > > When working in VMware in Windows7 with JAWS running, I am having trouble > with some JFW commands not working. Commands that use key combos on the left > side of the keyboard work fine, but, commands that use keys on the right hand > side of the keyboard are not working. For example, Jawskey + I is not > reading the current line. My guess is that this has something to do with the > VMWare key mappings, or something with all the variations of key remappings > that are being done. I have removed the Sharpkeys settings while in VMWare > as the remappings can be done with VMWare itself, but, still no luck. > > Do any of the JFW users out there have a solution that will fix this issue? > > Most of my work is required to be done in Windows, however, I would rather do > it on the VM side so I still have my MAC apps available to me. > > Thanks all for any suggestions, > > JP > > On Dec 10, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Bill Holton wrote: > >> I used the keyboard settings in the Mac settings to switc >> h them one for the other. It makes it a lot easier to use a PC keyboard. >> But even on my Mac keyboard Window-Eyes seems to be interferring with my >> ability to use Option-tab to tab between programs, that keyboard has factory >> settings. >> On Dec 10, 2013, at 12:22 PM, BBS wrote: >> >>> That's odd. On my keyboard, the Windows key is the command key. >>> >>> -- >>> Shawn >>> Sent From My White MacBook Using SamNet >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Web accessibility survey
This is short and sweet and easy. If you want voice over to be taken seriously, take five minutes and Fillis out. Mary http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey5/ > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
File Path for Specifying icloud IMAP Contacts?
Hi, all, I've been able to import a CSV file into Alpine by making the email addresses into a distribution list. Alpine has a proprietary format for its address book fields, and I really don't want to edit 100 addresses manually. This isn't the best of solutions, so now I'm hoping to specify a remote personal address book. I don't have my contacts on Gmail, but I do on iCloud. Is there a way to indicate the file path for this address book? It may not work either, but i want to give it a try. Thanks, teresa Sent using Alpine messaging system in Mac OS X Terminal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
