command enter supposed to insert page break in pages

[Andrew Head]

Hi all,
I was told command enter would insert a page break in pages. I’ve tried this 
and it doesn’t work. I can insert page breaks by choosing page break from the 
insert menu, but not using the keystroke command enter. 
Have I got the wrong keystroke?
any help is greatly appreciated. 
Andrew 
Sent from my 11 inch macbook air

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Re: command enter supposed to insert page break in pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Andrew,

Remember that Enter is not the same as Return. to put in a page break in Pages, 
you have to press Cmd-FN-Return.

Cheers,

Anne


On 18 Nov 2013, at 11:12, Andrew Head  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I was told command enter would insert a page break in pages. I’ve tried this 
> and it doesn’t work. I can insert page breaks by choosing page break from the 
> insert menu, but not using the keystroke command enter. 
> Have I got the wrong keystroke?
> any help is greatly appreciated. 
> Andrew 
> Sent from my 11 inch macbook air
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Re: soft/sip phones for mac

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi,
You can also use an app called Blink lite for $20 or blink pro for $50.
Matt Dierckens
matt.dierck...@gmail.com
Assistive Technology Trainer
IOS and Macintosh User support
Windsor area


On Nov 18, 2013, at 12:14 AM, Dean Adams  wrote:

> HI,
>   I use one called Telephone and I have found that I can be in a skype 
> call and still make and receive calls with this application very cool, easy 
> to setup and use all you need is your VOIP provider and your users name and 
> password.
> 
> Regards Dean
> Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro
> breezepa...@gmail.com
> Voip phone: +6124307 9248
> landline Phone: +61243892195
> Mobile: +61428133758
> Skype and Twitter : deanadams9
> 
> On 18 Nov 2013, at 1:30 pm, KJSC radio  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all. I was just wondering, is there any soft/sip phone software for mac? 
>> I found a couple on the app store, but not accessible with VO. The reason is 
>> is that I’m setting up a VPX voip server on my linux server and I would like 
>> a way that I can communicate with users on my mac rather than on my server… 
>> all though I think I might install one on my server just to be safe. so does 
>> anyone know of any soft phone software for mac? Thanks.
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Re: soft/sip phones for mac

[eric oyen]

guess what, it was not visible on the app store here. I am running Lion (too 
many issues in Mavericks to be comfortable with.

-eric

On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Peter Durieux wrote:

> Hi
> 
> TRelephone is a nice sip client for the mac, you can find it n the appstore. 
> :)
> 
> hth
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 07:30:32PM -0700, KJSC radio wrote:
>> Hi all. I was just wondering, is there any soft/sip phone software for mac? 
>> I found a couple on the app store, but not accessible with VO. The reason is 
>> is that I’m setting up a VPX voip server on my linux server and I would like 
>> a way that I can communicate with users on my mac rather than on my server… 
>> all though I think I might install one on my server just to be safe. so does 
>> anyone know of any soft phone software for mac? Thanks.
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Strange issue with importing CD's to iTunes.

[Jessica Moss]

I've been trying to rip CD's to Itunes, and the mp3 encode option is checked, 
but for I don't know what reason, it continuously waints to convert them to aif 
format
  This is fine if I want to play them on my phone, but if I want to transfer 
them to Hannah's sansa clip+, that can get annoying fast, because I have to 
turn right around and convert them to mp3 format.  Does anyone know why this 
could be happening?

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[Maccessibility] Learn the Shapes of Letters and Numbers for use with VoiceOver's Handwriting Feature

[Maccessibility]

Title: [Maccessibility] Learn the Shapes of Letters and Numbers for use with VoiceOver's Handwriting Feature
Maccessibility has posted a new item, 'Learn the Shapes of Letters and Numbers for use with VoiceOver's Handwriting Feature'

Draconis Entertainment has released DoItWrite for iPhone, an educational tool and practice game for mastering the shapes of uppercase letters, lowercase letters, and numbers for use with VoiceOver’s new handwriting feature in iOS 7. From the app description:


  Learn to draw lowercase letters, uppercase letters;;, and numbers for use with iOS 7’s [...]

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iSync.app under Maverick?

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Listers,

I’ve spent a few hours searching for the isync.app so that I might sync my 
contacts with my Nokia c5. I guess not many of you still use a nokia phone but 
if you do, how would you sync your contacts on your mac under Maverick with 
your nokia phone? I’ve downloaded isync plug-ins and ran the pkg file which 
seems to have installed something but I can’t find isync.app in the application 
folder. I guess plug-in is not the same as application. I think I may have run 
something and installed something but I’m not quite sure what. I was hoping the 
plug-ins .pkg file would also install isync.app but no, it’s not in the 
application folder. The .pkg file came from a nokia website - forgive my being 
vague but I did not take note from where it came exactly. I should’ve done. 
Grrr!

Any tips would be welcome.

Thanks!

Andrew

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Taking Mail out of notifications

[Tim Emmons]

Hi guys, just a quick question. How do you take mail out of the notifications 
so they're not popping up every time you get a message. I can't seem to see the 
select box or check box or something to disable this notifications. Also on a 
totally unrelated note, how do you get to your podcasts in iTunes. Thanks. 

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iphone not automatically deleting my voice memo once deleted from itunes

[Daniel McGee]

Hi all, once I've converted my Voice Memos to mp3 in iTunes. I am finding that 
once I've deleted the memos in iTunes and sync my iPhone again with iTunes and 
go to check the voice memos app on the phone they are still there.
So this is essentially requiring me to do a double delete. While I agree at 
times this may be handy in case you get rid of the wrong thing I essentially 
know its there, I have done what I need to do with the file and once deleted I 
would assume that iTunes would see that it isn't present on the iPhone itself 
and get rid of it for me but unfortunately not. You know like when you sync 
music between devices. Its gone on one device and once its synced it goes on 
the other device that you are using. 

Is there any way I can get iTunes and the iPhone to do this functionality 
nicely together therefore not requiring me to do a double delete. Or is this 
the way its always been with the voice memos app?

Using a Mac with latest version of Mountain Lion iTunes 11.13 and iOS 6.4 
running on an iPhone 5.

Thanking you

Daniel 

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anyone know anything about accessibility of Outlook 365 under Windows 8 and JAWS 15on a Mac running Bootcamp?

[Donna Goodin]

My basic question is is this doable?  If yes,is there any particular 
configuration needed to make email work?  Anything to pay attention to with 
JAWS and Windows 8 and Bootcamp?  Since this is just barely a Mac issue, feel 
free to write me off-list at doniado...@me.com.
TIA,
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Re: radium

[Deb Lewis]

It may no longer be working in Serious because Serious/xM is actively
trying to block all third party apps. Radium is working fine here for
everything else.

On 11/17/13, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Why are you VO right arrowing?
> I have an alias for the app on my desktop. So I VO space on it, then go to
> the extras menu, then hit the number pad five and then down arrow and find
> all the things I need to find. No right arrow involved. Maybe there are
> better ways of doing it, but that is what works for me.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
> wrote:
>
>> now, the app opens, but when I vo right arrow, it disappears.
>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>>> My radium stations are now working as before. But serious is not. Perhaps
>>> my subscription has run out. I will have to look into that.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 Hi:
 So glad it isn't just me.
 Thanks
 On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Radium has been working fine for me, but I just now tried it on my Mac
> and I'm getting nothing. When I try my saved sirius/xm stations, it
> kicks me into the dialogue where my account info was stored. The info
> is still there, but when I hit save, it just puts me back into that
> same dialogue. And other saved stations are not playing. I wonder if
> something is down on Radium's end somehow. This has been working
> perfectly, and there have been no updates that I am aware of. Very
> weird.
>
> Mary
>
> Mary Otten
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Windows on a Mac

[Joe]

Hello,

 

I've no doubt my questions have come up time after time. I'm new to the
list, so please feel free to point me to the appropriate archives if my
question have already been answered.

 

I'm considering installing Windows 7 on an 11-inch MacBook AIR. My
questions:

 

1. How much RAM do you recommend?

 

2. Is 250 gigs sufficient to run both operating systems?

 

3. How much space should I devote to Windows using BootCamp?

 

4. Will the processor be relevant, or can I stick to whatever comes standard
with the MBA?

 

5. Can someone tell me what keys are used to replicate certain Windows keys:
Delete, Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down?

 

6. How proficient can one use JAWS under Windows in this arrangement?

 

7. As for OSX, I know there is a decent startup tour. Is there a free book
or free resource that would let me learn my way around the operating system
in a Voiceover context?

 

8. How do I go about changing the verbosity setting to allow me to delete
characters in the same style as in Windows?

 

Thanks all in advance for your help.

 

Joe

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Re: radium

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Then Sirius needs to make their app more accessible. That sucks!
On Nov 18, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:

> It may no longer be working in Serious because Serious/xM is actively
> trying to block all third party apps. Radium is working fine here for
> everything else.
> 
> On 11/17/13, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Why are you VO right arrowing?
>> I have an alias for the app on my desktop. So I VO space on it, then go to
>> the extras menu, then hit the number pad five and then down arrow and find
>> all the things I need to find. No right arrow involved. Maybe there are
>> better ways of doing it, but that is what works for me.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> now, the app opens, but when I vo right arrow, it disappears.
>>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
 My radium stations are now working as before. But serious is not. Perhaps
 my subscription has run out. I will have to look into that.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli
  wrote:
 
> Hi:
> So glad it isn't just me.
> Thanks
> On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> Radium has been working fine for me, but I just now tried it on my Mac
>> and I'm getting nothing. When I try my saved sirius/xm stations, it
>> kicks me into the dialogue where my account info was stored. The info
>> is still there, but when I hit save, it just puts me back into that
>> same dialogue. And other saved stations are not playing. I wonder if
>> something is down on Radium's end somehow. This has been working
>> perfectly, and there have been no updates that I am aware of. Very
>> weird.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: radium

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I have a laptop. I vo on the ap on my doc. It opens, I vo right arrow past the 
search field, app closes. Radium doesn't appear in extra menu for me.
On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Why are you VO right arrowing?
> I have an alias for the app on my desktop. So I VO space on it, then go to 
> the extras menu, then hit the number pad five and then down arrow and find 
> all the things I need to find. No right arrow involved. Maybe there are 
> better ways of doing it, but that is what works for me.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> now, the app opens, but when I vo right arrow, it disappears.
>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>>> My radium stations are now working as before. But serious is not. Perhaps 
>>> my subscription has run out. I will have to look into that.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi:
 So glad it isn't just me.
 Thanks
 On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
> Radium has been working fine for me, but I just now tried it on my Mac 
> and I'm getting nothing. When I try my saved sirius/xm stations, it kicks 
> me into the dialogue where my account info was stored. The info is still 
> there, but when I hit save, it just puts me back into that same dialogue. 
> And other saved stations are not playing. I wonder if something is down 
> on Radium's end somehow. This has been working perfectly, and there have 
> been no updates that I am aware of. Very weird.
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Taking Mail out of notifications

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
Go to preference and notifications. Interact with the table, and choose mail.
On Nov 18, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:

> Hi guys, just a quick question. How do you take mail out of the notifications 
> so they're not popping up every time you get a message. I can't seem to see 
> the select box or check box or something to disable this notifications. Also 
> on a totally unrelated note, how do you get to your podcasts in iTunes. 
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Re: radium

[Jessica D]

Try uninstalling and installing it again. I can't get siriusxm to play either. 
What do i do?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:21 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> I have a laptop. I vo on the ap on my doc. It opens, I vo right arrow past 
> the search field, app closes. Radium doesn't appear in extra menu for me.
>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Why are you VO right arrowing?
>> I have an alias for the app on my desktop. So I VO space on it, then go to 
>> the extras menu, then hit the number pad five and then down arrow and find 
>> all the things I need to find. No right arrow involved. Maybe there are 
>> better ways of doing it, but that is what works for me.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> now, the app opens, but when I vo right arrow, it disappears.
 On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 My radium stations are now working as before. But serious is not. Perhaps 
 my subscription has run out. I will have to look into that.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> So glad it isn't just me.
> Thanks
>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Radium has been working fine for me, but I just now tried it on my Mac 
>> and I'm getting nothing. When I try my saved sirius/xm stations, it 
>> kicks me into the dialogue where my account info was stored. The info is 
>> still there, but when I hit save, it just puts me back into that same 
>> dialogue. And other saved stations are not playing. I wonder if 
>> something is down on Radium's end somehow. This has been working 
>> perfectly, and there have been no updates that I am aware of. Very weird.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: radium

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi.
Radium works fine here.
Both Sirius and radio stations work, granted this is Canadian Sirius.

Matt Dierckens
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On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:

> It may no longer be working in Serious because Serious/xM is actively
> trying to block all third party apps. Radium is working fine here for
> everything else.
> 
> On 11/17/13, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Why are you VO right arrowing?
>> I have an alias for the app on my desktop. So I VO space on it, then go to
>> the extras menu, then hit the number pad five and then down arrow and find
>> all the things I need to find. No right arrow involved. Maybe there are
>> better ways of doing it, but that is what works for me.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> now, the app opens, but when I vo right arrow, it disappears.
>>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
 My radium stations are now working as before. But serious is not. Perhaps
 my subscription has run out. I will have to look into that.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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> Hi:
> So glad it isn't just me.
> Thanks
> On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> Radium has been working fine for me, but I just now tried it on my Mac
>> and I'm getting nothing. When I try my saved sirius/xm stations, it
>> kicks me into the dialogue where my account info was stored. The info
>> is still there, but when I hit save, it just puts me back into that
>> same dialogue. And other saved stations are not playing. I wonder if
>> something is down on Radium's end somehow. This has been working
>> perfectly, and there have been no updates that I am aware of. Very
>> weird.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Windows on a Mac

[Caitlyn furness]

Hi Joe,
Wow, lots to cover here!

I’ll have a go at some of this and I know others will chime in..

Yes, 250 g is enough space for both operating systems.   You can partition your 
hard disk in any configuration you like.

I’d personally allow 2 g of ram for windows.

The alt and command keys are switched, but I think you might be able to use 
something like key remapped, but I’m not sure about this.

For your cursor question, go into vo utility, and under the navigation tab, you 
want to change the option for “vo speaks caracters the cursor passes.  I forget 
exactly what the option you want is called..It might be something like, speak 
the character  to the right of the cursor or something like that.

I don’t use boot camp, so unfortunately I can’t answer boot camp questions 
except to tell you that you *might* need sighted help to set this up.  there is 
a program out there now that some have used to set up boot camp without sighted 
help, but this is way beyond my knowledge.

hth,
Caitlyn

On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Joe  wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> I’ve no doubt my questions have come up time after time. I’m new to the list, 
> so please feel free to point me to the appropriate archives if my question 
> have already been answered.
>  
> I’m considering installing Windows 7 on an 11-inch MacBook AIR. My questions:
>  
> 1. How much RAM do you recommend?
>  
> 2. Is 250 gigs sufficient to run both operating systems?
>  
> 3. How much space should I devote to Windows using BootCamp?
>  
> 4. Will the processor be relevant, or can I stick to whatever comes standard 
> with the MBA?
>  
> 5. Can someone tell me what keys are used to replicate certain Windows keys: 
> Delete, Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down?
>  
> 6. How proficient can one use JAWS under Windows in this arrangement?
>  
> 7. As for OSX, I know there is a decent startup tour. Is there a free book or 
> free resource that would let me learn my way around the operating system in a 
> Voiceover context?
>  
> 8. How do I go about changing the verbosity setting to allow me to delete 
> characters in the same style as in Windows?
>  
> Thanks all in advance for your help.
>  
> Joe
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RE: Windows on a Mac

[Joe]

Excellent. These are great tips. If you have any helpful resources for
getting a good handle on OSX, I'd appreciate that as well. Thanks again.

 

Joe

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn furness
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 9:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Windows on a Mac

 

Hi Joe,

Wow, lots to cover here!

 

I'll have a go at some of this and I know others will chime in..

 

Yes, 250 g is enough space for both operating systems.   You can partition
your hard disk in any configuration you like.

 

I'd personally allow 2 g of ram for windows.

 

The alt and command keys are switched, but I think you might be able to use
something like key remapped, but I'm not sure about this.

 

For your cursor question, go into vo utility, and under the navigation tab,
you want to change the option for "vo speaks caracters the cursor passes.  I
forget exactly what the option you want is called..It might be something
like, speak the character  to the right of the cursor or something like
that.

 

I don't use boot camp, so unfortunately I can't answer boot camp questions
except to tell you that you *might* need sighted help to set this up.  there
is a program out there now that some have used to set up boot camp without
sighted help, but this is way beyond my knowledge.

 

hth,

Caitlyn

 

On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Joe  wrote:





Hello,

 

I've no doubt my questions have come up time after time. I'm new to the
list, so please feel free to point me to the appropriate archives if my
question have already been answered.

 

I'm considering installing Windows 7 on an 11-inch MacBook AIR. My
questions:

 

1. How much RAM do you recommend?

 

2. Is 250 gigs sufficient to run both operating systems?

 

3. How much space should I devote to Windows using BootCamp?

 

4. Will the processor be relevant, or can I stick to whatever comes standard
with the MBA?

 

5. Can someone tell me what keys are used to replicate certain Windows keys:
Delete, Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down?

 

6. How proficient can one use JAWS under Windows in this arrangement?

 

7. As for OSX, I know there is a decent startup tour. Is there a free book
or free resource that would let me learn my way around the operating system
in a Voiceover context?

 

8. How do I go about changing the verbosity setting to allow me to delete
characters in the same style as in Windows?

 

Thanks all in advance for your help.

 

Joe

 

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Re: command enter supposed to insert page break in pages

[Andrew Head]

Hi Anne, 
Thanks heaps :) it was puzzling me. 
Hope you have a great day,
Andrew 
On 18 Nov 2013, at 9:31 pm, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Andrew,
> 
> Remember that Enter is not the same as Return. to put in a page break in 
> Pages, you have to press Cmd-FN-Return.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 18 Nov 2013, at 11:12, Andrew Head  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I was told command enter would insert a page break in pages. I’ve tried this 
>> and it doesn’t work. I can insert page breaks by choosing page break from 
>> the insert menu, but not using the keystroke command enter. 
>> Have I got the wrong keystroke?
>> any help is greatly appreciated. 
>> Andrew 
>> Sent from my 11 inch macbook air
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Re: radium

[Mary Otten]

Which version of OS X are you running? I have mountain lion, and radium is 
definitely in the extras menu. But if you're on Snow Leopard, you are out of 
luck.
Married


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wrote:

> Hi:
> I have a laptop. I vo on the ap on my doc. It opens, I vo right arrow past 
> the search field, app closes. Radium doesn't appear in extra menu for me.
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> Why are you VO right arrowing?
>> I have an alias for the app on my desktop. So I VO space on it, then go to 
>> the extras menu, then hit the number pad five and then down arrow and find 
>> all the things I need to find. No right arrow involved. Maybe there are 
>> better ways of doing it, but that is what works for me.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> now, the app opens, but when I vo right arrow, it disappears.
>>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
 My radium stations are now working as before. But serious is not. Perhaps 
 my subscription has run out. I will have to look into that.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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  wrote:
 
> Hi:
> So glad it isn't just me.
> Thanks
> On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> Radium has been working fine for me, but I just now tried it on my Mac 
>> and I'm getting nothing. When I try my saved sirius/xm stations, it 
>> kicks me into the dialogue where my account info was stored. The info is 
>> still there, but when I hit save, it just puts me back into that same 
>> dialogue. And other saved stations are not playing. I wonder if 
>> something is down on Radium's end somehow. This has been working 
>> perfectly, and there have been no updates that I am aware of. Very weird.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: radium

[Jessica D]

i am running mavericks & i love it!

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> On Nov 18, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Which version of OS X are you running? I have mountain lion, and radium is 
> definitely in the extras menu. But if you're on Snow Leopard, you are out of 
> luck.
> Married
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi:
>> I have a laptop. I vo on the ap on my doc. It opens, I vo right arrow past 
>> the search field, app closes. Radium doesn't appear in extra menu for me.
>>> On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why are you VO right arrowing?
>>> I have an alias for the app on my desktop. So I VO space on it, then go to 
>>> the extras menu, then hit the number pad five and then down arrow and find 
>>> all the things I need to find. No right arrow involved. Maybe there are 
>>> better ways of doing it, but that is what works for me.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
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 On Nov 17, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
  wrote:
 
 now, the app opens, but when I vo right arrow, it disappears.
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> My radium stations are now working as before. But serious is not. Perhaps 
> my subscription has run out. I will have to look into that.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi:
>> So glad it isn't just me.
>> Thanks
>>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Radium has been working fine for me, but I just now tried it on my Mac 
>>> and I'm getting nothing. When I try my saved sirius/xm stations, it 
>>> kicks me into the dialogue where my account info was stored. The info 
>>> is still there, but when I hit save, it just puts me back into that 
>>> same dialogue. And other saved stations are not playing. I wonder if 
>>> something is down on Radium's end somehow. This has been working 
>>> perfectly, and there have been no updates that I am aware of. Very 
>>> weird.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Mary Otten
>>> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: apple working on voiceover

[Nicholas Parsons]

Yes, absolutely. I can't follow popular topics on Twitter in Night Owl because 
VoiceOver keeps interrupting itself with "one row added". I agree this should 
be a toggle in VoiceOver preferences: a spoken announcement, a sound or nothing.

On 17 Jan 2013, at 11:01 PM, Michael Marshall  wrote:

i would like to ad just one more thing.
put some options into VO so we can stop it saying one row added, i could even 
put up with a sound in sted but just not those words over and over again. 
anyone who has used ABBY fine reader will know what i’m talking about.
On 17 Nov 2013, at 9:52 pm, Peter Durieux  wrote:

> I want to append some things ;)
> - incorrect reading from url's and email addresses and files with 
> extension in some languages such as dutch, ... maybe some others
> - Trackpad bug, where you can't activite Controlcenter and spotlight by 
> double tapping on the trackpad
> - Some refreshable brailleterminals that were working fine in previous 
> version and doesn't in the new one: HandyTech bs and ...
> 
> 
>> • Make VoiceOver announce a messages read/unread status, and the number of 
>> messages in thread, before the message preview in Mail.
>> • Stop VoiceOver repeating text in nearby elements in Safari.
>> • Fix problems with column view in Finder.
>> • Label unlabelled buttons and images in iBooks.
>> 
>> On 17/11/2013, at 3:49 PM, jean parker  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello:
>> If there are any beta testers on this list for the upcoming release, the one 
>> I most hope they fix is in Safari.  Command left bracket and command left 
>> arrow go back a page but you don't land in the place where you left off.  
>> This is really annoying.
>> Jean
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Re: Safari 2 items, 3 items and internal link?

[Nicholas Parsons]

Thanks, Tim! I never noticed that option before. For anyone else looking for 
this, in Mountain Lion at least it's called "additional speech verbosity 
options check box". I had played with low verbosity before but didn't like that 
it wouldn't announce buttons, so this should be great for me. Thanks again.
Nic
On 18 Jan 2013, at 2:48 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

Have you looked at the advanced verbosity settings within the VO Utility?  When 
in the Verbosity pane of VO Utility, check the box for Advanced Speech 
Verbosity options, then Interact with the Table and go down the list.  You 
could change the verbosity level for specific elements to a lower level.  This 
may reduce VO’s verbosity for those sorts of elements to a level you more 
prefer.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> The two items three items thing you're hearing is most likely lists with 
> several items. Whenever VoiceOver encounters a list or sub-list, it announces 
> how many items are in the list. I agree it's overly verbose and not really 
> necessary. It's VoiceOver treating the HTML  and  tags as a separate 
> element, which it's not. I wish there was a way to make VoiceOver read a 
> paragraph or whole HTML element at a time without being interrupted by links 
> and the like. I like the way I can navigate through webpages with JAWS on 
> Internet Explorer with control down arrow — I wish there was something 
> similar with VoiceOver.
> 
> For internal links, however, it's important that VoiceOver distinguishes 
> these from ordinary links. Ordinary links take you to another webpage, 
> whereas internal links take you somewhere else on the webpage you are 
> currently on. They are usually used to navigate from the top of the page to 
> the start of the main article or substance of the page. You probably come 
> across those on many pages called skip to main internal link and the like.
> 
> Best,
> Nic
> 
> 
> On 17/11/2013, at 7:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Well, if you interact with the two items and three items things, you will 
> notice that you can see items on the page that you cannot see without 
> interacting with those items.  Not everything on the page is visible on the 
> surface look of the page.  So, if you see an item with a label on it that 
> says something like info tab with five items, and you interact with it, you 
> will notice things there that you would not see until you interact with it.  
> Why?  Much of it has to do with the way the page is written and how Voice 
> Over is seeing that code.  So, in other words, it’s not a bug, rather, it’s 
> got to do with the new designing of pages and how we interact with it.  Same 
> with the internal links.  I suspect that clicking on these internal links 
> reveals parts of the page that could not otherwise be seen.  the web is not 
> going to stand still for our benefit.  It’s changing, and, the way Voice Over 
> sees and deals with the code must change with it and, frankly, so must our 
> old and now outdated perceptions of how we understand the web.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Daniel McGee  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, with Safari, anyone no why on earth we get with Voiceover 2 items, 3 
>> items oh and lets not forget that internal link now and then.
>> 
>> I don't know if its me but these little things in Safari are starting to get 
>> on my nerves.
>> Guess you could say I'm moaning. lol 
>> 
>> Do they annoy others here. I do filter it out now and then but sometimes I 
>> wonder how these bugs creep in. 
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