RE: setting mail back to clasic view

[Jed Barton]

I don't see any of it, I see the accounts table, mailboxes, stuff like that.
There is no view tab.
The only view I see, when I am in the main window of the program I do vo m,
and I see things like file, view, etc.
Any ideas?  What am I doing wrong?

Cheers,
Jed

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Subject: Re: setting mail back to clasic view

it's a check box check it for classic view On Jul 19, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Alex
Hall  wrote:

> It's the very first item in the view tab. VO might miss it when it
auto-focuses after you select 'view", so vo-left or shift-tab to see if it's
just being skipped.
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> This is driving me nuts.  I'm trying to set my mail back to classic 
>> view, but I see nothing for it under preferences.  Any ideas where it is
hiding?
>> I can't find it anywhere.
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Re: Docuscan and twane scanners?

[Steve Holmes]

I use it with an Epson Perfection 600 scanner. Works good here.

On Jul 17, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:

> I use it with an epson v33 flatbed.
> 
> On 7/17/13, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>> Hi,  Is any one using docuscan with a standard flat bed scanner?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the
>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
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Re: mail clasic view, no luck

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

after you press command comma, you need to navigate to the toolbar and interact 
with it.  In there you will fine the vew button.  Press that then stop 
interacting with the toolbar.  Currently, you can’t find what your looking for 
because your in the account section of mail preferences.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:44 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:

> Hey guys,
> Is someone available for a skype call, or a good xplaination of this, how to
> put mail back to classic view?  Something is seriously wrong.  There is no
> view under preferences.  I hit command comma and I see things like accounts,
> mailboxes, etc.
> Can someone go through a step by step explaination of how to do this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jed
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RE: mail clasic view, no luck

[Jed Barton]

Ah, you mentioned the key word, the tool bar.
Noone else ever mentioned that.  I will try this in a bit, and let you know
how I make out.

Cheers,
Jed

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Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:18 AM
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Subject: Re: mail clasic view, no luck

Jed,
Press command comma.
Find the tool bar by doing vo left and interact with it. Then VO right until
you hear viewing. VO space on that. Un interact with the tool bar and vo
right and the option for classic view is the first thing you hear.

Lisette
On 20/07/2013, at 3:44 PM, "Jed Barton"  wrote:

> Hey guys,
> Is someone available for a skype call, or a good xplaination of this, 
> how to put mail back to classic view?  Something is seriously wrong.  
> There is no view under preferences.  I hit command comma and I see 
> things like accounts, mailboxes, etc.
> Can someone go through a step by step explaination of how to do this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jed
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voiceover on login not working

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

When I turn my mac on, voiceover does not come up, I have to hit command f5.
Any way to have it so it comes on during the login screen?

Thanks,
Jed

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Re: voiceover on login not working

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Jed,

If you're using Mountain Lion, go to system preferences, and press the Users 
and Groups button. VO past the toolbar and you'll find 'Users, groups and login 
options list". Interact with this list and go to "login options". Stop 
interacting and find the checkbox that says "use Voiceover in the login window" 
and make sure it's checked. Then you can safely command-w out of that dialog.

HtH,
Teresa
On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:00 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> When I turn my mac on, voiceover does not come up, I have to hit command f5.
> Any way to have it so it comes on during the login screen?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jed
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Re: Software that will convert speech to text?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Chris,

thanks, I don't know if this will be what the person needs or not, but I'll 
pass it along.
Best,
Donna

On Jul 19, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> There is Google's Automated Speech Recognition (ASR) which they have used for 
> their automated captions system in YouTube since 2009:
> 
> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/automatic-captions-in-youtube.html
> 
> Not sure they let you access that piece alone so you might have to upload the 
> media to youtube first and then ask for captions to be generated.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 7/17/13 6:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Hi Esther,
>> 
>> That's interesting, I've never heard about it before.  I imagine you're 
>> right that the logistics of creating software that could reliably convert 
>> speech to text without training, would just be impractical.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Jul 17, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna and Aman,
>>> 
>>> I think it's not that what you're looking for doesn't exist, but that there 
>>> aren't commercially available solutions.  Back in 2005-2006, shortly after 
>>> the original MacVisionaries list got started, there was a podcast search 
>>> engine named PodZinger, later renamed EveryZing.  I think it must have been 
>>> running a version of the continuous speech recognition system that the 
>>> company responsible for this effort, BBN, started developing about a decade 
>>> earlier.   At that time the number of broadcast podcasts was much smaller 
>>> than now.  The PodZinger search engine let you type in a phrase or set of 
>>> keywords, and then it would pull up a match to identified podcasts, and 
>>> even estimate the time the phrase occurred within the podcast.  It was sort 
>>> of like doing a Google search for podcast audio content, and pretty 
>>> impressive.  You had to type in enough words in the search term to identify 
>>> the context, because just like a Google search you'd get a short section of 
>>> matched content, but you didn't have to really type more than you would for 
>>> a Google search.  I think this service  was only around for a couple of 
>>> years.
>>> 
>>> Probably this was an outgrowth of  Department of Defense funded research. 
>>> You ca probably do a web search to read more details.  I don't know of 
>>> anything like that exisiting commercially, and you'd probably need to have 
>>> a huge training set (like the database of Siri users with different accents 
>>> and speech patterns) to train the software.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:51:34 AM UTC-10, Donna wrote:
 Hi, Aman,
 
 
 
 Unfortunately, it was the latter.  I kind of didn't think that there was 
 anything that could do this, but I figured if it was out there, someone on 
 this list would know about it.
 
 
 
 thank you for responding, if nothing else, it's good to be sure that what 
 I was looking for doesn't exist.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Donna
 
 On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Aman Singer  wrote:
 
 
 
> Hi, Donna.
> If I may ask, what sort of speech are you looking to convert? That is,
> are you looking to convert speech from a speaker over which you have
> control, or recorded speech from a person who is willing to read
> training text? Alternatively, are you looking to convert speech that
> is, for example, broadcast, recorded from a speaker who will not train
> the software, or some other speaker over which you don't have any
> control? The first is fairly simple. If you can have the speaker
> record his/her/its training speech on to a digital recorder, there are
> programs which you can train using that recorded speech and they will
> then recognise that particular speaker's recorded voice fairly well.
> If, however, you're after the second, for example, transcribing a
> broadcast recording, I know of nothing that will produce an acceptable
> transcription without human input. If you find such a thing, however,
> I, along with quite a few other people, would be overjoyed, this,
> particularly in real-time, would be a godsend to those of us with bad
> hearing. If you find anything like this, then, please let the list
> know.
> Aman
> On 7/16/13, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> Does anyone know of any software that will take speech, not dictation but
>> recorded speech, and converted to text? It could either be mobile 
>> software
>> or software for the Mac.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Thanks: WPA2 network problem seems solved

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
Thanks to those who suggested removing preferred networks. I saw that my home 
network was saved twice, both as WEP and not WPA2, so I removed both entries 
and manually re-connected. That was yesterday, and so far I've had no drops, so 
that seems to have done the trick. Let's hope it stays that way! 


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Tonidos - Voiceover Compatible Remote Access

[Emilio Hernandez]

Hello everyone,

This Message is a cross-post because of its utility.
Tonido is an accessible and free way to move and share files, which is 
voiceover compatible for Mac OS X and the iPhone.
The macintosh client resides in the menubar, but the iPhone app is where the 
benefits of this app are seen.
The iPhone app recognizes my entire computer and allows me to access external 
drives also.
The web site is accessible and making an account took me less than 5 minutes. 
The iPhone client will prompt you for the account credentials and a specific 
URL,  which is necessary to view your computer.
Please note that the URL is going to take the form of 
http://username.tonidoid.com. This will need to be entered into the URL section 
when logging into your account from the iPhone. (This URL can just be copied 
from the Tonido support e-mail you will receive after an account has been 
created).
If you Google "tondo" it will be the first link in the results section.

Hope this has been helpful.

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Re: Tonidos - Voiceover Compatible Remote Access

[Ray Foret jr]

I took a look at this some time back, and, it seemed to me that I could not 
access anything on my Mac from my phone.  Not sure about this one; but, if you 
have a better experience with it, more power to yuh.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jul 20, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Emilio Hernandez  
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> This Message is a cross-post because of its utility.
> Tonido is an accessible and free way to move and share files, which is 
> voiceover compatible for Mac OS X and the iPhone.
> The macintosh client resides in the menubar, but the iPhone app is where the 
> benefits of this app are seen.
> The iPhone app recognizes my entire computer and allows me to access external 
> drives also.
> The web site is accessible and making an account took me less than 5 minutes. 
> The iPhone client will prompt you for the account credentials and a specific 
> URL,  which is necessary to view your computer.
> Please note that the URL is going to take the form of 
> http://username.tonidoid.com. This will need to be entered into the URL 
> section when logging into your account from the iPhone. (This URL can just be 
> copied from the Tonido support e-mail you will receive after an account has 
> been created).
> If you Google "tondo" it will be the first link in the results section.
> 
> Hope this has been helpful.
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How to listen and purchase a ringtone?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello All,

I was on the train the other day and I heard a ringtone I really liked. I've 
never looked at purchasing ringtones from iTunes before and I can't seem to 
find the way to listen to a sample of a ringtone. I can only find apps to 
create ringtones. I'd just rather just buy the one I like. A google search 
appears to give lots of Android ringtones of wind chimes and bells. In fact, it 
appears that Samsung have provided some.

How do I listen to iTunes ringtones of wind chimes and bells? That is if they 
have some.

Thanks.

Gena

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mail working again, yeahha!

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

Well, my mail is finally working correctly, thank god.  I was going crazy,but 
the classic view is a wonderful thing.

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RE: voiceover on login not working

[Jed Barton]

I found the checkbox that says use voiceover, but it says dimmed checked
checkbox. I can't change it. Any thoughts?

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voiceover on login not working

Hi, Jed,

If you're using Mountain Lion, go to system preferences, and press the Users
and Groups button. VO past the toolbar and you'll find 'Users, groups and
login options list". Interact with this list and go to "login options". Stop
interacting and find the checkbox that says "use Voiceover in the login
window" and make sure it's checked. Then you can safely command-w out of
that dialog.

HtH,
Teresa
On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:00 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> When I turn my mac on, voiceover does not come up, I have to hit command
f5.
> Any way to have it so it comes on during the login screen?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jed
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Re: voiceover on login not working

[Jed Barton]

I got it unlocked, however, i had to press a key on the keyboard for voiceover 
to say anything.  Any thoughts on what itmight be?
Strange
On Jul 20, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Red.Falcon  
wrote:

> Hi!
> That sounds like you have to unlock the admin so look for the unlock to make 
> changes and hit that and you'll be asked for your master password and then 
> when you go back that button should no longer be dimmed!
> And when your finished making any changes you go back and lock so changes 
> cannot be mucked up and other people cannot access your main settings without 
> your password!
> HTH Colin
> 
> On 20 Jul 2013, at 16:53, "Jed Barton"  wrote:
> 
>> I found the checkbox that says use voiceover, but it says dimmed checked
>> checkbox. I can't change it. Any thoughts?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
>> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:57 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: voiceover on login not working
>> 
>> Hi, Jed,
>> 
>> If you're using Mountain Lion, go to system preferences, and press the Users
>> and Groups button. VO past the toolbar and you'll find 'Users, groups and
>> login options list". Interact with this list and go to "login options". Stop
>> interacting and find the checkbox that says "use Voiceover in the login
>> window" and make sure it's checked. Then you can safely command-w out of
>> that dialog.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:00 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> 
>>> When I turn my mac on, voiceover does not come up, I have to hit command
>> f5.
>>> Any way to have it so it comes on during the login screen?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jed
>>> 
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Re: voiceover on login not working

[Red.Falcon]

Hi!
That sounds like you have to unlock the admin so look for the unlock to make 
changes and hit that and you'll be asked for your master password and then when 
you go back that button should no longer be dimmed!
And when your finished making any changes you go back and lock so changes 
cannot be mucked up and other people cannot access your main settings without 
your password!
HTH Colin

On 20 Jul 2013, at 16:53, "Jed Barton"  wrote:

> I found the checkbox that says use voiceover, but it says dimmed checked
> checkbox. I can't change it. Any thoughts?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:57 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: voiceover on login not working
> 
> Hi, Jed,
> 
> If you're using Mountain Lion, go to system preferences, and press the Users
> and Groups button. VO past the toolbar and you'll find 'Users, groups and
> login options list". Interact with this list and go to "login options". Stop
> interacting and find the checkbox that says "use Voiceover in the login
> window" and make sure it's checked. Then you can safely command-w out of
> that dialog.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:00 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> When I turn my mac on, voiceover does not come up, I have to hit command
> f5.
>> Any way to have it so it comes on during the login screen?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jed
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Re: voiceover on login not working

[Alex Hall]

What do you mean, and at what point? You just hit that checkbox, you are asked 
for your admin password, and off you go with everything now available. You can 
choose to lock things up again by once again checking the box, which will now 
be labeled as "click the lock to prevent further changes".
On Jul 20, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:

> I got it unlocked, however, i had to press a key on the keyboard for 
> voiceover to say anything.  Any thoughts on what itmight be?
> Strange
> On Jul 20, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Red.Falcon  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> That sounds like you have to unlock the admin so look for the unlock to make 
>> changes and hit that and you'll be asked for your master password and then 
>> when you go back that button should no longer be dimmed!
>> And when your finished making any changes you go back and lock so changes 
>> cannot be mucked up and other people cannot access your main settings 
>> without your password!
>> HTH Colin
>> 
>> On 20 Jul 2013, at 16:53, "Jed Barton"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I found the checkbox that says use voiceover, but it says dimmed checked
>>> checkbox. I can't change it. Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:57 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: voiceover on login not working
>>> 
>>> Hi, Jed,
>>> 
>>> If you're using Mountain Lion, go to system preferences, and press the Users
>>> and Groups button. VO past the toolbar and you'll find 'Users, groups and
>>> login options list". Interact with this list and go to "login options". Stop
>>> interacting and find the checkbox that says "use Voiceover in the login
>>> window" and make sure it's checked. Then you can safely command-w out of
>>> that dialog.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> Teresa
>>> On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:00 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey guys,
 
 When I turn my mac on, voiceover does not come up, I have to hit command
>>> f5.
 Any way to have it so it comes on during the login screen?
 
 Thanks,
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changing sounds in adium

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

What's the best way to change sounds in adium?  Also, how do i access the 
notification center on the mac?

Cheers,
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Downloading past bought ringtones

[Krysti]

Hey all 

Had to restore my phone and lost my ringtones I bought how can i redone load 
them without having to buy them again

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Re: Ten fabulous finder commands

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Yes, they can. It's really cool. I had no idea this would work. The video gave 
me some skeptical feelings about it but I just went into the finder on my 
machine and pressed the suggested modifier keys and the menu option changed and 
VO spoke the difference. Even the enter key works when you hold down the option 
or whatever key. When I arrowed around in the menus, I used the strait arrow 
keys with no VO modifiers; I think this will be very important. It makes me 
want to explore other apps and see if similar "easter eggs" might be found.

Thanks, Chris for the link to this article.

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> HI can all these be done with the keyboard?
> 
> thanks 
> Blessings!
> maria and Joe chapman
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> twitter: bubbygirl
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>> I think I knew most of these but they may be new to others:
>> 
>> http://www.macworld.com/article/2044195/ten-fabulous-finder-commands-you-should-be-using.html
>> 
>> CB
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Re: Ten fabulous finder commands

[John Panarese]

It is one of the major reasons why I teach my clients to use the VO-arrow 
keys to navigate menus.  You can see a lot more than you can using only the 
arrow keys.  The user library in the Go menu of  Finder is just one example.


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> gave me some skeptical feelings about it but I just went into the finder on 
> my machine and pressed the suggested modifier keys and the menu option 
> changed and VO spoke the difference. Even the enter key works when you hold 
> down the option or whatever key. When I arrowed around in the menus, I used 
> the strait arrow keys with no VO modifiers; I think this will be very 
> important. It makes me want to explore other apps and see if similar "easter 
> eggs" might be found.
> 
> Thanks, Chris for the link to this article.
> 
> On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:26 AM, Maria and Joe Chapman  
> wrote:
> 
>> HI can all these be done with the keyboard?
>> 
>> thanks 
>> Blessings!
>> maria and Joe chapman
>> Email, iMessage & fb: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> twitter: bubbygirl
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 16/07/2013, at 1:36 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> I think I knew most of these but they may be new to others:
>>> 
>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/2044195/ten-fabulous-finder-commands-you-should-be-using.html
>>> 
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vm fusion 5

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hello , just to let you know , vm fusion is on amazon for just 25 pounds in
the uk so just ,convert to us and I think that is a lot cheaper then the vm
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switching tabs in safari

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Hey guys,

How do i switch tabs in safari?

Thanks,
Jed

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Re: How To Request A Refund for An iTunes or App Store Purchase

[Steve Holmes]

I don't see any link to click here. I just see the title of whatever this 
article is supposed to be.

On Jul 16, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Jane  wrote:

> Saw this and thought it would be useful. I haven't actually tried this with 
> anything yet.
> 
> How To Request A Refund for An iTunes or App Store Purchase
> 
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iPhone 4S sound

[Krysti]

Hi I have a problem with my iPhone I only get sound while connected to my 
speaker system of headphones but when I'm not connected I still hear the ringer 
on my phone any help would be appreciated thanks Krysti

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Re: switching tabs in safari

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi,
stop interaction with html content and move to the right. There you'll find the 
taps and you can click on them.
Jürgen

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> 
> How do i switch tabs in safari?
> 
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Re: vm fusion 5

[Les Kriegler]

Do they provide a key to run the software?  After what many of us went through 
with Dell, the question needs to be asked.  I was able to secure a refund from 
Dell, as no key was forthcoming.

Les
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> I didn't know that Amazon did sell  VMfusion, thank you for letting me know.
> 
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Re: vm fusion 5

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I didn't know that Amazon did sell  VMfusion, thank you for letting me know.

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Time and date

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi,
does anyone know how to change the way VO speaks the date and time in the Apple 
script used in Keyboard Commander? It sounds strange to hear the english format 
for date and time spoken out by a german voice. So hopefully someone can 
understand what I mean and can help.
All the best
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Pages Help with Show Statistics

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

Quite a frustrating problem, as this keeps happening. When it works, I can go 
to the Edit menu in pages, go down to writing tools and then to show stats. 
This opens the inspector where I can view the total number of words to a 
document. Well, now once again, I can't get this inspector window to open so I 
can see the word count. Any idea why, and how I can get to it another way? 
Thanks

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Re: switching tabs in safari

[Brian Fischler]

A much quicker way to switch tabs where you don't have to stop interacting or 
anything is to hit control tab and control shift tab to cycle through the tabs 
in a reverse order. 
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Re: Time and date

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Jürgen,

To make Date & Time speak correctly in German you need to replace the script. 
I'm no expert in Applescript so can't help with this.

Cheers,

Anne


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> Hi,
> does anyone know how to change the way VO speaks the date and time in the 
> Apple script used in Keyboard Commander? It sounds strange to hear the 
> english format for date and time spoken out by a german voice. So hopefully 
> someone can understand what I mean and can help.
> All the best
> Jürgen
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Re: saving in text edit

[Steve Holmes]

I have one other question related to saving files in Text Edit. In my case, the 
default location is always iCloud and I have to change it to one of my local 
folders each time I save a new file. Is there a way to make it not default to 
iCloud?

On Jul 12, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
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> When you press command-s it will display the save/save as dialogue, unless 
> the file has already been saved. If the file has already been saved you have 
> a few options.
> YOu can navigate to the left up near the toolbar to the file actions pop up 
> button. In this button are options such as rename file, move file and 
> duplicate file. You can also get these functions from the file menu. These 
> will allow you to do the same things as save as. If, for instance, you 
> duplicate the file, you can then press command-s to bring up the save 
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Re: saving in text edit

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I don't recall just where, but you can change that in Text Edit's preferences - 
you'll want the "local machine" option instead of iCloud, and then it will work 
as expected. Many people want this change, so Google has plenty of articles on 
the topic.
On Jul 20, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> I have one other question related to saving files in Text Edit. In my case, 
> the default location is always iCloud and I have to change it to one of my 
> local folders each time I save a new file. Is there a way to make it not 
> default to iCloud?
> 
> On Jul 12, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
>> When you press command-s it will display the save/save as dialogue, unless 
>> the file has already been saved. If the file has already been saved you have 
>> a few options.
>> YOu can navigate to the left up near the toolbar to the file actions pop up 
>> button. In this button are options such as rename file, move file and 
>> duplicate file. You can also get these functions from the file menu. These 
>> will allow you to do the same things as save as. If, for instance, you 
>> duplicate the file, you can then press command-s to bring up the save 
>> dialogue to choose a file name, file type and file location etcetera. The 
>> original file will not be changed.
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Re: No-ip.org, really and truly a serious unaccessible problem...

[Steve Holmes]

I never used that service so cannot help you with any further information but I 
do use another service which is configured from the website which is accessible 
enough.

That would be 
http://www.dyn.com

They used to be called Dynamic DNS and they used to be free for some services. 
They charge now but it is still reasonable. I use them for my machine at home 
which I ssh into quite often.

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> Hi all… I'm having a really unusual question here… has anyone ever used no-ip 
> before to host anything before and getting their dynamic IPs updated for 
> hosting things such as an ftp server or any other server that you guys 
> hosted, if so, if you have used no-ip.org and the regular client for updating 
> DNS on no-ip.org, have you ever found their client to be rather unaccessible? 
> so much so that you can't even navigate it accept for dialog boxes? What can 
> I do to get everything working with my mac correctly with this service and if 
> there is another application that has been written for the DNS update client 
> can anyone help me in the write direction of how to go about this and if not, 
> can you guys describe how you guys did it because I really can't navigate the 
> un knowns and I hate them with a passion… I'm sorry for this rather long 
> email but I'm well… as I would like to say,,,… on a mission… Lol. so yeah… if 
> anyone  can help out with this, I would be very grateful… Thanks all.
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Re: Pages Help with Show Statistics

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Brian,

You open the inspector with Cmd-Option-i and the one you want is Document which 
is the first one. You then want the Info tab. All the stats are there.

Cheers,

Anne




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> Hey all,
> 
> Quite a frustrating problem, as this keeps happening. When it works, I can go 
> to the Edit menu in pages, go down to writing tools and then to show stats. 
> This opens the inspector where I can view the total number of words to a 
> document. Well, now once again, I can't get this inspector window to open so 
> I can see the word count. Any idea why, and how I can get to it another way? 
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Re: saving in text edit

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks for that answer. I had not seen any options in the regular preferences 
for TextEdit. I guess there's a lot of more powerful options out there that can 
be set through terminal.

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> Sure. In terminal, you can type this, exactly as it's written and iCloud 
> won't be the default location.
> defaults write NSGlobalDomain NSDocumentSaveNewDocumentsToCloud -bool false
> And press enter. Then, exit terminal and when you re-launch text edit, you'll 
> have your local drive as primary location. Of course, you'll still be able to 
> save to iCloud, it just won't be the first option to save to anymore.
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Re: Time and date

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You might want to use the Talking Dashboard scripts I wrote for this purpose 
(among other uses). It has a template, so you can move the month, day, hour, 
minute, and a bunch more around to your liking. Grab the zip file from:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17005121/talking%20dashboard.zip
Take a look in the readme file for answers to questions, instructions, features 
I hope to add, and more, and feel free to ask any questions you might have.
On Jul 20, 2013, at 6:14 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Jürgen,
> 
> To make Date & Time speak correctly in German you need to replace the script. 
> I'm no expert in Applescript so can't help with this.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 20 Jul 2013, at 22:31, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> does anyone know how to change the way VO speaks the date and time in the 
>> Apple script used in Keyboard Commander? It sounds strange to hear the 
>> english format for date and time spoken out by a german voice. So hopefully 
>> someone can understand what I mean and can help.
>> All the best
>> Jürgen
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Re: saving in text edit

[Daniel C]

Sure. In terminal, you can type this, exactly as it's written and iCloud won't 
be the default location.
defaults write NSGlobalDomain NSDocumentSaveNewDocumentsToCloud -bool false
And press enter. Then, exit terminal and when you re-launch text edit, you'll 
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Re: saving in text edit

[Alex Hall]

Indeed there are, and it's worth a google if you're bored one day. Apps like 
Tinker Tool can do a lot of them for you, but some are terminal-only. For 
instance, I recently enabled Airdrop on a 2007 Mac running Lion through 
Terminal and it works great.
On Jul 20, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> Thanks for that answer. I had not seen any options in the regular preferences 
> for TextEdit. I guess there's a lot of more powerful options out there that 
> can be set through terminal.
> 
> On Jul 20, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Daniel C  wrote:
> 
>> Sure. In terminal, you can type this, exactly as it's written and iCloud 
>> won't be the default location.
>> defaults write NSGlobalDomain NSDocumentSaveNewDocumentsToCloud -bool false
>> And press enter. Then, exit terminal and when you re-launch text edit, 
>> you'll have your local drive as primary location. Of course, you'll still be 
>> able to save to iCloud, it just won't be the first option to save to anymore.
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Re: Best place to get audiobooks

[Nicholas Parsons]

audible.com and audible.co.uk are both great. You can get a monthly 
subscription with each of them which gives you one free book a month. At 
audible.com the one book a month membership is $14.95 and at audible.co.uk it 
is a little cheaper at £7.99. To buy books outside a subscription it generally 
seems cheaper on audible.com, but I now use audible.co.uk as it's only £7.99 
for absolutely any book, and I'm happy to get one a month.

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Re: Docuscan and twane scanners?

[Nicholas Parsons]

I use it with a CanoScan LiDE 700F. Not sure if this is flat bed or not.

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Re: notifications question

[Nicholas Parsons]

You can also open window chooser with VO-F2 twice quickly and then select the 
notification from there or select notification centre.

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Re: switching tabs in safari

[Ray Foret jr]

Kind of aquard if you only have a left side control key though.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jul 20, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> A much quicker way to switch tabs where you don't have to stop interacting or 
> anything is to hit control tab and control shift tab to cycle through the 
> tabs in a reverse order. 
> On Jul 20, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
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>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> How do i switch tabs in safari?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jed
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VO keys needed in VM

[Phil Halton]

How can I set VMWare to allow Control + Option (alt) to be used in a
windows7 VM? It would be nice to have that key combo available for
JAWS table reading commands, but the Mac grabs them as VO keys. Any
way to get around this?
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RE: vm fusion 5

[wayne17a]

Yes I to had a refund from dell and I hope the one from
amazon has one but I will let you know when it arrives 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:24 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: vm fusion 5

 

Do they provide a key to run the software?  After what many of us went
through with Dell, the question needs to be asked.  I was able to secure a
refund from Dell, as no key was forthcoming.

 

Les

On Jul 20, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:





I didn't know that Amazon did sell  VMfusion, thank you for letting me know.


On 20 Jul 2013, at 08:33 PM, wayne17a  wrote:

hello , just to let you know , vm fusion is on amazon for just 25 pounds in
the uk so just ,convert to us and I think that is a lot cheaper then the vm
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Re: mail authentication issue

[Kerri]

Hello, gang. 

I attempted to reset my mac administration password, all to no avail, it wants 
my old password which of course I cannot remember. I tried entering my apple 
id, all to no avail. (this is all performed in user accounts) Any assistance 
would be greatly appreciated.
On 2013-07-19, at 9:53 AM, Kerri  wrote:

> Hello, Max. Did you try tabbing to show certificate and then tabbing to trust?
> On 2013-07-18, at 11:42 PM, Maxwell Ivey  wrote:
> 
>> let me know if you find out why that happens.  it happens to me all the time 
>> too.  good luck, max 
>> On Jul 19, 2013, at 12:30 AM, Kerri wrote:
>> 
>>> . Hello. I've been experiencing an issue in which every time I launch mail, 
>>> I receive the following message:
>>> Verify certificate. The identity  of pop.shaw.ca cannot be verified. The 
>>> certificate for this server  is invalid. You might be connecting to a 
>>> server that is pretending to be pop.shaw.ca"
>>> 
>>> I researched this on google and they stated to 
>>> 1. Press show certificate.
>>> 2. Click "trust"
>>> 3. Click connect.
>>> 
>>> However, when I follow these steps, it asks for my password but will not 
>>> accept said password. The only way I can utilize mail  is to click 
>>> "connect" every time the mail program is launched. I had this issue when I 
>>> first got this mac but the "trust" option quickly rectified it. Thanks for 
>>> any help.  
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Re: VO keys needed in VM

[Maria And Joe]

hi.
the only thing I can think of is that you turn voice over off while in the vm. 
I hope  someone  else  has some other ideas.

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On 21/07/2013, at 12:09 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> How can I set VMWare to allow Control + Option (alt) to be used in a
> windows7 VM? It would be nice to have that key combo available for
> JAWS table reading commands, but the Mac grabs them as VO keys. Any
> way to get around this?
> thanks
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Re: Pages Help with Show Statistics

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Ann, thanks, I for some reason didn't realize that the inspector was coming 
up, as it used to just pop up, but for some odd reason it stopped doing so, but 
when I used the window chooser I was able to get to it. Go figure you always 
figure things out right after you post for help. Thanks of this way to.
On Jul 20, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Brian,
> 
> You open the inspector with Cmd-Option-i and the one you want is Document 
> which is the first one. You then want the Info tab. All the stats are there.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 20 Jul 2013, at 22:36, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Quite a frustrating problem, as this keeps happening. When it works, I can 
>> go to the Edit menu in pages, go down to writing tools and then to show 
>> stats. This opens the inspector where I can view the total number of words 
>> to a document. Well, now once again, I can't get this inspector window to 
>> open so I can see the word count. Any idea why, and how I can get to it 
>> another way? Thanks
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Re: VO keys needed in VM

[jon squally]

Hello everyone,

I would suggest the table  layer which is insert plus space then T. This will 
get around the issue with control and option keys.  Use your arrow keys to 
navigate the table then use  jaws reading commands  to exit or press escape.

Regards, Jon


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On Jul 20, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Maria And Joe  wrote:

> hi.
> the only thing I can think of is that you turn voice over off while in the 
> vm. I hope  someone  else  has some other ideas.
> 
> Maria, Joe and Karly.
> 
> email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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> On 21/07/2013, at 12:09 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> How can I set VMWare to allow Control + Option (alt) to be used in a
>> windows7 VM? It would be nice to have that key combo available for
>> JAWS table reading commands, but the Mac grabs them as VO keys. Any
>> way to get around this?
>> thanks
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Re: accessing DropBox settings V 2.0.22

[Steve Holmes]

Here's another way to open the menu. First, route the mouse as has been 
described so far by pressing Ctrl-Option-Command-F5. Then tap the option key 
five times to turn on mouse keys. Then Hold down the option key and press the 
letter i on a small keyboard or the #5 key on the numeric keypad of a full size 
keyboard. When that is pressed, the menu with 10 items should pop up in a 
second or two. At least it did that on my system. Be sure to hit Option five 
times again to turn mouse keys back off and after that, you can move up and 
down the dropbox menu as desired.

On Jul 6, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> VO CMD f5
> On 2013-07-06, at 12:32 PM, "Jed Barton"  wrote:
> 
>> how do you route the mouse to vo, never had to do this
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger
>> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 10:13 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: accessing DropBox settings V 2.0.22
>> 
>> Both didn't work on my MacBook Air. But thanks a lot.
>> 
>> Am 06.07.2013 um 15:33 schrieb "Phil Halton" :
>> 
>>> Danny's suggestion of routing mouse to VO while on the dropbox menu and 
>>> pressing option click on trackpad worked for me - it brought up the 
>>> familiar dropbox menu with 9 items, One of which was preferences. I was 
>>> able to navigate that dialog and switch my dropbox folder back to my user 
>>> account on the main HD.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> the other way, routing mouse to VO and pressing VO Shift space for a 
>>> regular mouse click brought up a less useful dialog. It has a link to 
>>> dropbox.com, a choice to open the dropbox folder, and a list of recently 
>>> changed files. Then at the bottom of the dialog there is the word 
>>> "settings", but it appears to be just static text that doesn't open 
>>> anything like settings.
>>> .
>>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Ray Foret jr
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 11:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: accessing DropBox settings V 2.0.22
>>> 
>>> That's quite correct.  Even with 2.0.8 this is the case.  I've written to 
>>> them, even opening a ticket and they haven't even had the common curticy to 
>>> get back to me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>>> 
 It's a Dropbox issue. With VO on the menu opens and then closes again. 
 Instead of VO space do VO shift space and you can get to the settings. 
 
 
 Danny. 
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> I have the dropbox folder on an external drive and want to move it back 
> onto the MacHD. But, I can't seem to get the dropbox menu to open. I am 
> using the VO+M twice command, then pressing VO+space on the dropbox menu 
> item. I've also pressed VO+enter, but it just clunks and won't open.
> How can I get to the dropbox preferences so I can set the dropbox folder 
> location back onto the main HD?
>  
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Re: unable to erase .trashes on thumb drive

[Steve Holmes]

Another way to clear this out is if you have a Linux machine some place; just 
mount that drive on the Linux box and rm -fr the folder and it won't care. I 
realize you might not have that option available to you but I do and it came in 
handy to do just that and additionally go after files on a broken windows 
environment by mounting that drive.

I wonder if one could rm the .trashes folder from a terminal on any mac.

On Jul 3, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Oops, duh!  I guess the actual easiest method would be to go to the computer 
> that you did the deleting on.  The second easiest is what I mentioned.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-07-03, at 3:55 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, it was on another system. Thankfully, that other system is that older 
>> Mac I mentioned in my Pages question, so I can just go empty that one's 
>> trash. Thanks for the tip - I did not realize the trash was 
>> machine-specific, though in retrospect that setup does make more sense.
>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm guessing that the items were put in the Trash when the Thumb Drive was 
>>> connected to a different system.  If that's the case, then the Trash is 
>>> linked to the other machine so you do not have permission to empty it.  The 
>>> easiest way to fix this is to copy the items that you wish kept from it 
>>> over to your Mac, then use Disk Utility to format it.  You can then copy 
>>> the items back over and you'll have the full amount of space available.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2013-07-03, at 1:39 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I have a 1.04gb folder called .trashes on a thumb drive, and I want to 
 clear it out. Google tells me to just empty the trash on the Mac and that 
 will clear the trash of all mounted drives, but it does not, and the 
 folder still shows as having 1.04gb in it. When I open the folder, it is 
 empty. What is going on, and how can I get my free space back? Thanks in 
 advance.
 
 
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Re: Your First Mac App (Voiceover and XCode)

[Steve Holmes]

I want to personally thank you for the tips and references you have offered 
here. I'm an experienced programmer though I have barely touched programming 
with xcode. I have one of those books I recently bought for introducing iOS 
programming but I think I would rather start with something on the Mac first 
and then move to an iOS environment. Anyway, there's a bunch to learn here. I'm 
anxious to move away from mainframe programming as that has been a dieing 
profession for years.

On Jul 6, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:

> First, just to be clear I never have mouse follows vo turned on in the 
> utility.
> Put vo on the unknown and then rout the mouse.  Make sure the mouse is where 
> you want it with vo-f5.  If it isn't, some times the splitters can inter fear 
> so you might need to try moving them around.  Same thing in the header file.
> I lock the mouse with shift-vo-command-space then move vo to the header file. 
>  I've noticed that starting in Lion, the mouse follows vo when the mouse is 
> locked and cursor tracking is on.  I have cursor tracking when I drag to a 
> header file.  There are other situations when you will need to turn it off.
> 
> Last but not least, XCode can be buggy.  You just have to learn to deal with 
> it if you use it.
> 
> On Jul 6, 2013, at 2:27 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Hi Barry,
> 
> Just as clarification, when you drag, what state is mouse pointer  on? Do you 
> go to the unknown, vo command shift space with mouse following voice over 
> cursor, then go to the header file, or do you first toggle cursor tracking 
> off before moving from unknown to the header file?
> 
> 
> Best regards, and thanks a lot for helping out 
> 
> 
> 
> "Light has no value without darkness"
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/07/2013, at 8:04 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
>> There has been some discussion recently in regards to whether or not one can 
>> use Voiceover with Interface builder.  I'm not sure that this list is the 
>> most appropriate place for discussing this, but I feel that there have been 
>> some inaccurate assertions made and I wanted to attempt to clear up a few 
>> points for the sate of those who are programmers on this list and are 
>> interested in learning about developing apps with XCode.
>> 
>> As the subject implies, I am using the tutorial found at 
>> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#referencelibrary/GettingStarted/RoadMapOSX/books/RM_YourFirstApp_Mac/Articles/GettingStarted.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012262-TP40012101-CH2-SW8.
>> I realize the IOS is the hottest thing, but I think that this example is a 
>> little cleaner for the purpose of explaining this.  It works the same for 
>> the most part for an IOS app and I will point out the most important 
>> differences at the end.  I'm also only going to go over laying out the 
>> window and referencing the objects in the xib in your code.  The tutorial 
>> explains how to create a project etc.
>> 
>> Make sure that the xib is opened in the source area and that the utilities 
>> are visible with command-option-0.
>> 
>> First, add the controls to the windows content view:
>> 1.  With the mainmenu.xib file opened in the source group, make sure the 
>> document outline is visible.  You should see a table with all of the objects 
>> in the xib.
>> 2.  Find the window object in the table and expand it to expose the content 
>> view.
>> 3.  Move vo to the library group, interact, and select the object library 
>> radio button.
>> 4.  Find text field, with vo, rout the mouse to vo, and lock the mouse.
>> 5.  Move vo to the windows content view in the outline, then release the 
>> mouse.  Now the content view should contain the textfield. (Note that this 
>> can be glitchy sometimes and you might have to try it again but not very 
>> often.)
>> 6.  Repeat for the slider and button.
>> 
>> Designing the layout:
>> 
>> I'm going to arrange the controls in a column centered in the window and 
>> left justified with the button close to the bottom of the window.  
>> 
>> 1.  Select the content view and go to the size inspector.  Git the width and 
>> height.  I have 480 by 360
>> 2.  In the xib, select the text field and.  In the size inspector, make sure 
>> layout rectangle is selected and select the origin to be the top left corner.
>> 3.  In the origin section, type 20 in the x field and 340 for the y value.  
>> Then stretch it across the window until the right side is 20 points from the 
>> right edge by selecting the origin in the top left corner and typing a value 
>> of 440 in the width field.  Note that you could also resize the window to 
>> fit the text field, but this is more simple.
>> 4.  Change the origin to the bottom left corner and get the y value.  I have 
>> 318.
>> 5.  Select the slider and in the size inspector, set the origin to top left, 
>> set the x origin to 20 and the y to 308.  That positions the slider 20 
>> points from the left edge of the window and 10 points below the textfield.
>