Re: critical help--how do i get to a pop-up tab in safari?

2013-01-26 Thread Georgina Joyce

Hello,

That's assuming it is not above the html content. VO shift up arrow to 
stop interacting with html content. Then VO left and right arrows. Along 
the open tabs.


Gena




On 26/01/2013 01:02, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,

Doesn't cmd tab work?

Gena

On 25/01/2013 16:56, Randy George wrote:

how do i get to a pop-up tab in safari?

thanks,
randy





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Re: Filling in tables in the docx format.

2013-01-26 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
Correct me if i'm wrong here, but the german and the Swedish version seems to 
be a bit similar. Line break is the Swedish name for word wrap, and that's what 
i suspect this is about.
Does this make sence?
/Krister

25 jan 2013 kl. 22:02 skrev Barry Hadder :

> Hey,
> 
> There seems to be a couple of differences between your version and mine.  I 
> don't have line, and I have rap right before text.  You seem to have 
> something called brak.  I have no idea what that is, so The only thing I can 
> suggest is to try that tab.
> Let me know if that works.  I'm really curious about this.
> Thanks.
> 
>   Barry Hadder
> bhad...@gmail.com
> https://twitter.com/BarryHadder
> 
> UnitMaster
> Available in the Mac app store.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 25, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
> Hi Barry,
> 
> that sounds great. Unfortunately I use a german version of Pages and I don't 
> know how to find "rap" because I don't know what it means.
> 
> Could you please help me to find it?
> If I open the Inspector by pressing CMD + Option + i I find the following 
> tabs from left to right:
> Document, Layout, line brak, Text, Graphic, Size, Table, Diagramm, Link, 
> Quicktime
> Could you tell me what tab you were talking about? So, what number of the tab 
> counted from the left?
> 
> Thanks and all the best
> Jürgen
> 
> Am 25.01.2013 um 18:53 schrieb Barry Hadder :
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Rather than copy the table to Numbers, You can go to the inspector and 
>> select rap. Then, in the object placement section choose floating.
>> 
>> When you do that, the table can be seen by Voiceover in the layout area.  
>> You can interact with it as you would any other table.
>> 
>>  Barry Hadder
>> bhad...@gmail.com
>> https://twitter.com/BarryHadder
>> UnitMaster
>> Available in the Mac app store.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 25, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Annie,
>> 
>> To copy a table from Pages to Numbers, open a blank spreadsheet in Numbers, 
>> select the table in Pages (VO will just report a highlighted space but Cmd-c 
>> will copy the table), then paste the item into the blank spreadsheet.
>> 
>> Once the information has been entered, select the portion of the table you 
>> wish to copy back into Pages and copy it to the clipboard. In Pages, paste 
>> the table into the space it came from.
>> 
>> You can use the Convert table to text menu item to check that everything has 
>> been copied correctly then use Cmd-z to undo that action.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 25 Jan 2013, at 13:39, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Anne.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your suggestion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It was exactly the way I thought of doing it, but I could not find out how 
>>> to setup numbers, I can create a new document.
>>> 
>>> But how can I add the table?
>>> 
>>> I simply open the table in pages as the first step, when I mark the table, 
>>> how do I get it pasted in numbers.
>>> 
>>> The reason why I am bringing this up, is that here in Denmark, it is 1 of 
>>> the main reasons not to recommend mac. It makes me a little sad, because 
>>> mac can do so much, and it is so fun to work with mac as I experience it.
>>> 
>>> Best regards Annie.
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Re: Filling in tables in the docx format.

2013-01-26 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi Christa, Barry and all,
that's correct. Thanks for the input.
Another question to this: At the moment it seems that I have to find the tables 
in a document manually, highlight them and open the director and so on. Is this 
correct or is there a way to let Pages show up tables automatically as an 
element in the layout area?
Thanks and all the best
Jürgen

Am 26.01.2013 um 12:49 schrieb Krister Ekstrom :

> Hi,
> Correct me if i'm wrong here, but the german and the Swedish version seems to 
> be a bit similar. Line break is the Swedish name for word wrap, and that's 
> what i suspect this is about.
> Does this make sence?
> /Krister
> 
> 25 jan 2013 kl. 22:02 skrev Barry Hadder :
> 
>> Hey,
>> 
>> There seems to be a couple of differences between your version and mine.  I 
>> don't have line, and I have rap right before text.  You seem to have 
>> something called brak.  I have no idea what that is, so The only thing I can 
>> suggest is to try that tab.
>> Let me know if that works.  I'm really curious about this.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>  Barry Hadder
>> bhad...@gmail.com
>> https://twitter.com/BarryHadder
>> 
>> UnitMaster
>> Available in the Mac app store.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 25, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Barry,
>> 
>> that sounds great. Unfortunately I use a german version of Pages and I don't 
>> know how to find "rap" because I don't know what it means.
>> 
>> Could you please help me to find it?
>> If I open the Inspector by pressing CMD + Option + i I find the following 
>> tabs from left to right:
>> Document, Layout, line brak, Text, Graphic, Size, Table, Diagramm, Link, 
>> Quicktime
>> Could you tell me what tab you were talking about? So, what number of the 
>> tab counted from the left?
>> 
>> Thanks and all the best
>> Jürgen
>> 
>> Am 25.01.2013 um 18:53 schrieb Barry Hadder :
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Rather than copy the table to Numbers, You can go to the inspector and 
>>> select rap. Then, in the object placement section choose floating.
>>> 
>>> When you do that, the table can be seen by Voiceover in the layout area.  
>>> You can interact with it as you would any other table.
>>> 
>>> Barry Hadder
>>> bhad...@gmail.com
>>> https://twitter.com/BarryHadder
>>> UnitMaster
>>> Available in the Mac app store.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Annie,
>>> 
>>> To copy a table from Pages to Numbers, open a blank spreadsheet in Numbers, 
>>> select the table in Pages (VO will just report a highlighted space but 
>>> Cmd-c will copy the table), then paste the item into the blank spreadsheet.
>>> 
>>> Once the information has been entered, select the portion of the table you 
>>> wish to copy back into Pages and copy it to the clipboard. In Pages, paste 
>>> the table into the space it came from.
>>> 
>>> You can use the Convert table to text menu item to check that everything 
>>> has been copied correctly then use Cmd-z to undo that action.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 25 Jan 2013, at 13:39, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Anne.
 
 Thank you for your suggestion.
 
 
 It was exactly the way I thought of doing it, but I could not find out how 
 to setup numbers, I can create a new document.
 
 But how can I add the table?
 
 I simply open the table in pages as the first step, when I mark the table, 
 how do I get it pasted in numbers.
 
 The reason why I am bringing this up, is that here in Denmark, it is 1 of 
 the main reasons not to recommend mac. It makes me a little sad, because 
 mac can do so much, and it is so fun to work with mac as I experience it.
 
 Best regards Annie.
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Re: Accessible ID3 tag editor

2013-01-26 Thread erik burggraaf
There's one called music box which will id3 tag and catalog for you.  I use it 
and it works pretty well.

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On 2013-01-26, at 12:35 AM, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> I've tried to find a demo copy to download but between the bad sites it's on 
> and the fact that half the time I can't find the different version that works 
> on osx 10.5 and higher, I'll have to look for this another day. It sounds 
> like something that would be very handy if it still works with VO. At $15 it 
> isn't cheep but isn't expensive either.
> 
> Danny:
> 
> On 25/01/2013, at 3:48 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> For deleted or lost messages from this list, look in the archives.
>> 
>> In the meantime, try a program called ID3 Edit.  I can't remember if I
>> got it through the Mac App Store or if I got it from a 3rd party
>> developer. I'm at work on a puky windows machine so can't verify this
>> any further right now.
>> 
>> On 1/24/13, Marc Rocheleau  wrote:
>>> Hey again,
>>> 
>>> Okay, I'm an idiot. I got a response to this a few weeks ago but must
>>> have deleted it by accident. Either way, can someone recommend an
>>> accessible ID3 tag editor? Someone mentioned a good app for this
>>> already but, as I said, I seemed to have... um... misplaced that
>>> information. lol
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>> 
>>> -Marc
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Re: Using my new mac for email

2013-01-26 Thread Matthew
Hi Chris,

How did you get it working if it's not accessible?  Is there a command line 
that i can do to go through the prosses?  Thanks.

Matthew



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CC: 
Date: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:24 pm
Subject: Re: Using my new mac for email

>
>
> It's one of the few non-Apple things I never switched over to so I'll be 
> especially interested in any comments on how you migrate — especially 
> mail archives. I have them going back nearly 10 years which is part of 
> the baggage that has kept me off the Apple Mail goodness.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/25/13 3:11 PM, Matthew Dyer wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> I thought you were using it.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 25, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>
>> Thunderbird, like Firefox on the Mac, is not accessible. The stalemate 
>> between Mozilla and Apple drags on and on.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> On 1/22/13 1:09 PM, Mark Baxter wrote:
>>> Hi, Gena:
>>>
>>> Don't know about Thunderbird, though would suspect it is accessible.  Yes, 
>>> Mail can easily handle all your accounts.  This is done through System 
>>> Preferences (command Comma) in the "accounts," tab," by clicking the "add," 
>>> button.  If you need more help than this, let me know.
>>>
>>>
>>>   chr Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>>>   chr AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>>>   chr MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>>>   chr My home page:
>>>   chr http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Devin Prater
Hi all. I know that, on Windows, there are like 40 or so companies making TTS 
for screen readers and sapi. What all speech engines are for mac? Particularly, 
are there any for free, or demos?

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Fwd: New WebAIM Survey

2013-01-26 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi all,  sorry for the crosspost, but I use the analitics from the web aim all 
the time and appreciate as many people as possible taking the time to fill this 
out.  Especially if you then pass it along to other potentially interested 
candidates.

> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/XGC33NV. 
> 
> 
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Begin forwarded message:

> From: jer...@gwmicro.com
> Subject: New WebAIM Survey
> Date: 24 January, 2013 2:07:02 PM EST
> To: gw-i...@gwmicro.com
> 
> 
> Are you a Window-Eyes user?  Have you taken the new WebAIM Survey yet? This 
> survey focuses on how you use your screen reader to browse web pages. Please 
> take a moment to represent Window-Eyes and fill out the survey at 
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> 
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time capsule port mappings don't stick

2013-01-26 Thread Paul Erkens
Dear listers,

I'm helping someone to set up their time capsule and all is fine, except for 
one thing. When I enter port mappings and save, the time capsule reboots as 
usual, but then when checking back on the port settings I made, the text fields 
for the port numbers are empty. In other words, the port mapping entry in time 
capsule exists, but it doesn't work when testing. So, when going back into time 
capsule settings and editing the port mapping, the fields that should still 
contain the port numbers to map, are empty. After editing, this is what the 
dialog looks like:

Firewall Entry Type:
IPv4 Port Mapping, dimmed pop up button.
Description:
for serv-u passive, port 33250.
Public UDP Ports:
edit text, blank.
Public TCP Ports:
edit text blank.
Private IP Address:
10.0.1.250, 250 is selected, edit text.
Private UDP Ports:
edit text, blank.
Private TCP Ports:
edit text, blank.
Cancel, button.
Save, dimmed default button.

So as you can see, where I entered the tcp port numbers, in both fields it is 
33250, the values vanished after the save and reboot on time capsule. Anyone an 
idea what is going on here? Does any of you have working port mappings with a 
time capsule, while having the router mode set to dhcp plus nat? Is there a 
work around for this flaw?

Paul.

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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Chris H

I only know of two, Sepstral and Acapella.


Christopher Hallsworth

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Hi all. I know that, on Windows, there are like 40 or so companies making TTS 
for screen readers and sapi. What all speech engines are for mac? Particularly, 
are there any for free, or demos?



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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Mary Otten
There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running Lion or 
later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to pay extra 
for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. I wish we had 
Ivona for Mac. But at least the  Mac has Alex, which is excellent.

Mary

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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Devin Prater
Ah, thanks. Both are substandard compared to Alex, I know because they are on 
read2go and sound like a bunch of poorly made random samples, forced together 
to read the text. Cepstral is much worse in my opinionn.
On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Chris H  wrote:

> I only know of two, Sepstral and Acapella.
> 
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> 
> On 26/01/2013 18:57, Devin Prater wrote:
>> Hi all. I know that, on Windows, there are like 40 or so companies making 
>> TTS for screen readers and sapi. What all speech engines are for mac? 
>> Particularly, are there any for free, or demos?
>> 
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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Devin Prater
Yes, I almost forgot I had those. The Neuance voices are everywhere now, LOL. 
They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices have the 
strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running Lion or 
> later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to pay extra 
> for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. I wish we had 
> Ivona for Mac. But at least the  Mac has Alex, which is excellent.
> 
> Mary
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Re: Filling in tables in the docx format.

2013-01-26 Thread Barry Hadder
Hey Jürgen,

unfortunately, I don't know of a way to make all objects imbedded in a document 
behave that way.  That is really just an alternative work-around to copying and 
pasting a table to numbers.  I think that there are still a lot of problems 
when it comes to collaborating with others using MS office.  Aside from the 
fact that imbedded objects are for all intents and purposes invisible to vo, so 
are auto bullets and numbers.

I've written to Apple accessibility, sent pages feedback from the pages menu, 
and through the bug report form available to members of an Apple developer 
program.  I haven't seen any change nor received any response in four years.

Some years ago, I gave up on word processors and started using something called 
latex.  I realize that it isn't for everyone and every situation, but I thought 
I might throw it out hear for anyone who might be interested.  I can say that 
I've had great success with it, but the learning curve is steep.  You can read 
about it at:  http://www.andy-roberts.net/writing/latex.

Good luck.

Barry Hadder
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On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

Hi Christa, Barry and all,
that's correct. Thanks for the input.
Another question to this: At the moment it seems that I have to find the tables 
in a document manually, highlight them and open the director and so on. Is this 
correct or is there a way to let Pages show up tables automatically as an 
element in the layout area?
Thanks and all the best
Jürgen

Am 26.01.2013 um 12:49 schrieb Krister Ekstrom :

> Hi,
> Correct me if i'm wrong here, but the german and the Swedish version seems to 
> be a bit similar. Line break is the Swedish name for word wrap, and that's 
> what i suspect this is about.
> Does this make sence?
> /Krister
> 
> 25 jan 2013 kl. 22:02 skrev Barry Hadder :
> 
>> Hey,
>> 
>> There seems to be a couple of differences between your version and mine.  I 
>> don't have line, and I have rap right before text.  You seem to have 
>> something called brak.  I have no idea what that is, so The only thing I can 
>> suggest is to try that tab.
>> Let me know if that works.  I'm really curious about this.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>  Barry Hadder
>> bhad...@gmail.com
>> https://twitter.com/BarryHadder
>> 
>> UnitMaster
>> Available in the Mac app store.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 25, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Barry,
>> 
>> that sounds great. Unfortunately I use a german version of Pages and I don't 
>> know how to find "rap" because I don't know what it means.
>> 
>> Could you please help me to find it?
>> If I open the Inspector by pressing CMD + Option + i I find the following 
>> tabs from left to right:
>> Document, Layout, line brak, Text, Graphic, Size, Table, Diagramm, Link, 
>> Quicktime
>> Could you tell me what tab you were talking about? So, what number of the 
>> tab counted from the left?
>> 
>> Thanks and all the best
>> Jürgen
>> 
>> Am 25.01.2013 um 18:53 schrieb Barry Hadder :
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Rather than copy the table to Numbers, You can go to the inspector and 
>>> select rap. Then, in the object placement section choose floating.
>>> 
>>> When you do that, the table can be seen by Voiceover in the layout area.  
>>> You can interact with it as you would any other table.
>>> 
>>> Barry Hadder
>>> bhad...@gmail.com
>>> https://twitter.com/BarryHadder
>>> UnitMaster
>>> Available in the Mac app store.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Annie,
>>> 
>>> To copy a table from Pages to Numbers, open a blank spreadsheet in Numbers, 
>>> select the table in Pages (VO will just report a highlighted space but 
>>> Cmd-c will copy the table), then paste the item into the blank spreadsheet.
>>> 
>>> Once the information has been entered, select the portion of the table you 
>>> wish to copy back into Pages and copy it to the clipboard. In Pages, paste 
>>> the table into the space it came from.
>>> 
>>> You can use the Convert table to text menu item to check that everything 
>>> has been copied correctly then use Cmd-z to undo that action.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 25 Jan 2013, at 13:39, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Anne.
 
 Thank you for your suggestion.
 
 
 It was exactly the way I thought of doing it, but I could not find out how 
 to setup numbers, I can create a new document.
 
 But how can I add the table?
 
 I simply open the table in pages as the first step, when I mark the table, 
 how do I get it pasted in numbers.
 
 The reason why I am bringing this up, is that here in Denmark, it is 1 of 
 the main reasons not to recommend mac. It makes me a little sad, because 
 mac can do so much, and it is so fun to work with mac as I experience it.
 
 Best regards Anni

accessing dictionary

2013-01-26 Thread Kerri
hello, all. How do I access the dictionary on the mac both on the fly and using 
it as an application? I am totally senile as the podcast I have on the subject 
must e for a different or older operating system.

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Re: curser and selection problems, any ideas?

2013-01-26 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi William Windels,

I sometimes experience strange VoiceOver behaviour like you described. 
Sometimes, my navigation gets stuck, even though quicknav is off. This is due 
to things your cursor comes across, that voiceover has difficulty with. Even an 
attachment I send in a mail message freezes navigation. That is, after the 
attachment is inserted, and I then review the message and I then come across 
the spot where the attachment was inserted, voiceover freezes navigation. In 
other words, hitting up down left right no longer gives feedback, neither audio 
nor braille feedback.
What I do is command f5 twice, to turn voiceover off and back on again. If that 
doesn't help, you can turn it off, move the cursor a little bit, by tapping up 
arrow once for example, and then turning vo back on. It helps for me. Hope it 
helps for you.

Paul.
On Jan 25, 2013, at 4:14 PM, William Windels  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I discover sometimes very strange problems with osx 10.8.2 on my recent 
> macbook air 11 inch):
> 
> Because of a strange reason, I can't navigate anymore in textedit while 
> quicknav is off. When I put it on, I can navigate again an also when I put it 
> back off after some seconds, I can navigate again.
> Can this be a bug?
> 
> also, perhaps related to it: when I am on a middle of a line in textedit and 
> I want to select to the beginning of the line, sometimes voiceover says or 
> shows nothing in my braille display  about the selection.
> But when I do command+x, the part that should be selected, is gone.
> So, it was selected but I didn't know it.
> 
> Some idea's?
> 
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Re: accessing dictionary

2013-01-26 Thread Rachel Feinberg
Hi Kerri,

You can access the dictionary either through typing in the first couple letters 
of it in spotlight search, accessed with command+space. Or, you can navigate to 
your applications folder with command+shift+A, interact with that, and browse 
to the dictionary app.
Once in the app, you can navigate to the toolbar, interact with that, and go to 
the search field. Type in the word you wish to look up, and press enter. Then 
stop interacting with the toolbar, and navigate to the html area. In there, 
once you interact, you'll find your results.
there's probably some other keystrokes that make jumping from the toolbar to 
the html area quicker, but vo+J doesn't seem to accomplish this, so please 
forgive the long way around explanation and keyboard action.
Hope that helps some,
Rachel 
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> hello, all. How do I access the dictionary on the mac both on the fly and 
> using it as an application? I am totally senile as the podcast I have on the 
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Re: accessing dictionary

2013-01-26 Thread Devin Prater
Oh I love the dictionary. I can search wikipedia and everything, it works so 
much better than safari.
On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:

> Hi Kerri,
> 
> You can access the dictionary either through typing in the first couple 
> letters of it in spotlight search, accessed with command+space. Or, you can 
> navigate to your applications folder with command+shift+A, interact with 
> that, and browse to the dictionary app.
> Once in the app, you can navigate to the toolbar, interact with that, and go 
> to the search field. Type in the word you wish to look up, and press enter. 
> Then stop interacting with the toolbar, and navigate to the html area. In 
> there, once you interact, you'll find your results.
> there's probably some other keystrokes that make jumping from the toolbar to 
> the html area quicker, but vo+J doesn't seem to accomplish this, so please 
> forgive the long way around explanation and keyboard action.
> Hope that helps some,
> Rachel 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> hello, all. How do I access the dictionary on the mac both on the fly and 
>> using it as an application? I am totally senile as the podcast I have on the 
>> subject must e for a different or older operating system.
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OT :Abbyy FineReader Express on sale in Mac App Store!

2013-01-26 Thread jshandra72
OT :Abbyy FineReader Express! 

For anybody who has been considering purchasing Abbyy FineReader Express, now 
is your best opportunity. It is on sale in the Mac App Store. It normally sells 
for 99.99, it is 50% off. It is now on sale for 49.99. This is one of the best 
OCR engines. The voice over capability with Express is wonderful. Just so you 
know, it supports many different languages. Hope this helps some people 
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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Ray Foret Jr
And Acapella is not free.
 Good though.  I'm using it now.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Chris H  wrote:

> I only know of two, Sepstral and Acapella.
> 
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> 
> On 26/01/2013 18:57, Devin Prater wrote:
>> Hi all. I know that, on Windows, there are like 40 or so companies making 
>> TTS for screen readers and sapi. What all speech engines are for mac? 
>> Particularly, are there any for free, or demos?
>> 
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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Chris H

The two I know of aren't free but there are free demos available.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 26/01/2013 20:30, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

And Acapella is not free.
  Good though.  I'm using it now.


Sincerely,
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Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Chris H  wrote:


I only know of two, Sepstral and Acapella.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 26/01/2013 18:57, Devin Prater wrote:

Hi all. I know that, on Windows, there are like 40 or so companies making TTS 
for screen readers and sapi. What all speech engines are for mac? Particularly, 
are there any for free, or demos?



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Re: Filling in tables in the docx format.

2013-01-26 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hey Barry,

thanks a lot for your info. As you mentioned, there's still a lot to do for 
Apple. But this little work around with tables helps me a lot. Great you 
brought it up.

All the best
Jürgen


Am 26.01.2013 um 20:20 schrieb Barry Hadder :

> Hey Jürgen,
> 
> unfortunately, I don't know of a way to make all objects imbedded in a 
> document behave that way.  That is really just an alternative work-around to 
> copying and pasting a table to numbers.  I think that there are still a lot 
> of problems when it comes to collaborating with others using MS office.  
> Aside from the fact that imbedded objects are for all intents and purposes 
> invisible to vo, so are auto bullets and numbers.
> 
> I've written to Apple accessibility, sent pages feedback from the pages menu, 
> and through the bug report form available to members of an Apple developer 
> program.  I haven't seen any change nor received any response in four years.
> 
> Some years ago, I gave up on word processors and started using something 
> called latex.  I realize that it isn't for everyone and every situation, but 
> I thought I might throw it out hear for anyone who might be interested.  I 
> can say that I've had great success with it, but the learning curve is steep. 
>  You can read about it at:  http://www.andy-roberts.net/writing/latex.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
>   Barry Hadder
> bhad...@gmail.com
> https://twitter.com/BarryHadder
> UnitMaster
> Available in the Mac app store.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
> Hi Christa, Barry and all,
> that's correct. Thanks for the input.
> Another question to this: At the moment it seems that I have to find the 
> tables in a document manually, highlight them and open the director and so 
> on. Is this correct or is there a way to let Pages show up tables 
> automatically as an element in the layout area?
> Thanks and all the best
> Jürgen
> 
> Am 26.01.2013 um 12:49 schrieb Krister Ekstrom :
> 
>> Hi,
>> Correct me if i'm wrong here, but the german and the Swedish version seems 
>> to be a bit similar. Line break is the Swedish name for word wrap, and 
>> that's what i suspect this is about.
>> Does this make sence?
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 25 jan 2013 kl. 22:02 skrev Barry Hadder :
>> 
>>> Hey,
>>> 
>>> There seems to be a couple of differences between your version and mine.  I 
>>> don't have line, and I have rap right before text.  You seem to have 
>>> something called brak.  I have no idea what that is, so The only thing I 
>>> can suggest is to try that tab.
>>> Let me know if that works.  I'm really curious about this.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Barry Hadder
>>> bhad...@gmail.com
>>> https://twitter.com/BarryHadder
>>> 
>>> UnitMaster
>>> Available in the Mac app store.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Barry,
>>> 
>>> that sounds great. Unfortunately I use a german version of Pages and I 
>>> don't know how to find "rap" because I don't know what it means.
>>> 
>>> Could you please help me to find it?
>>> If I open the Inspector by pressing CMD + Option + i I find the following 
>>> tabs from left to right:
>>> Document, Layout, line brak, Text, Graphic, Size, Table, Diagramm, Link, 
>>> Quicktime
>>> Could you tell me what tab you were talking about? So, what number of the 
>>> tab counted from the left?
>>> 
>>> Thanks and all the best
>>> Jürgen
>>> 
>>> Am 25.01.2013 um 18:53 schrieb Barry Hadder :
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Rather than copy the table to Numbers, You can go to the inspector and 
 select rap. Then, in the object placement section choose floating.
 
 When you do that, the table can be seen by Voiceover in the layout area.  
 You can interact with it as you would any other table.
 
Barry Hadder
 bhad...@gmail.com
 https://twitter.com/BarryHadder
 UnitMaster
 Available in the Mac app store.
 
 
 On Jan 25, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
 
 Hello Annie,
 
 To copy a table from Pages to Numbers, open a blank spreadsheet in 
 Numbers, select the table in Pages (VO will just report a highlighted 
 space but Cmd-c will copy the table), then paste the item into the blank 
 spreadsheet.
 
 Once the information has been entered, select the portion of the table you 
 wish to copy back into Pages and copy it to the clipboard. In Pages, paste 
 the table into the space it came from.
 
 You can use the Convert table to text menu item to check that everything 
 has been copied correctly then use Cmd-z to undo that action.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 25 Jan 2013, at 13:39, Annie Skov Nielsen  
 wrote:
 
> Hi Anne.
> 
> Thank you for your suggestion.
> 
> 
> It was exactly the way I thought of doing it, but I could not find out 
> how to setup numbers, I can create a new document.
> 
>

Virus invasion

2013-01-26 Thread Mary Scott
Hi all, If the Apple store people say you need to pay $200 to wipe your 
computer clean of viruses that have invaded everything, does that make sense?  
Is there another way?

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Re: Virus invasion

2013-01-26 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, can you give a little more detail about what viruses these are, how they 
got there, what they are doing, etc? And what is that the apple store wants to 
do to wipe it?

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Re: Virus invasion

2013-01-26 Thread Mark Baxter
I would be very sure this isn't a scam or hoax of some kind.  So far as I"m 
aware, Mountain Lion is not susceptible to foreign ware of any kind; you MUST 
give authentication and a password before anything install on your computer.  
If this is *NOT* the case, and it's some sort of java-based attack, or some 
other detail like this, you should get specific information about what ware it 
is and how it'll be removed.  But first I'd make SURE you're talking to Apple. 
I've gotten some pretty clever looking Facebook and other hoaxes.


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Re: Virus invasion

2013-01-26 Thread Scott Rumery
Mary,

There is no need to pay Apple $200 to do something that you can do yourself at 
home.  Remember that unlike on Windows we can reinstall the operating system 
ourselves without any sighted assistance what so ever.

What makes you think that your Mac has an infection?  I believe that it is 
highly unlikely that your Mac has a virus but as we all know just because we 
are using a Mac does not mean that we are immune.

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Re: Virus invasion

2013-01-26 Thread Cameron Strife
Hi. $200? Hm. That sounds very high indeed for reformatting a hard
drive and reinstalling OSX, if that is what this turns out to be. I
wouldn't even pay that much if it included a replacement hard drive.

If a reformat and reinstall of OSX is the case, you can do that at
home for free as voiceover will boot from the OSX dvd, flash drive, or
recovery partition. All you need to do is run disk utility, wipe the
hd, reformat it, and install OSX. If you'd like instructions, let me
know.

Cameron.




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> Mary,
>
> There is no need to pay Apple $200 to do something that you can do yourself
> at home.  Remember that unlike on Windows we can reinstall the operating
> system ourselves without any sighted assistance what so ever.
>
> What makes you think that your Mac has an infection?  I believe that it is
> highly unlikely that your Mac has a virus but as we all know just because we
> are using a Mac does not mean that we are immune.
>
> Scott Rumery
> Senior Partner
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Re: Virus invasion

2013-01-26 Thread Phil Halton
Of course, reinstalling the OS doesn't take into account any data files that 
may be brought forward from the previous installation.


Mary, did you initiate the conversation concerning your computer and 
viruses, or did "apple" initiate the conversation?


- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Rumery" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: Virus invasion


Mary,

There is no need to pay Apple $200 to do something that you can do yourself 
at home.  Remember that unlike on Windows we can reinstall the operating 
system ourselves without any sighted assistance what so ever.


What makes you think that your Mac has an infection?  I believe that it is 
highly unlikely that your Mac has a virus but as we all know just because we 
are using a Mac does not mean that we are immune.


Scott Rumery
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Fedora Outlier, LLC
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sc...@fedoraoutlier.com

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Hi all, If the Apple store people say you need to pay $200 to wipe your 
computer clean of viruses that have invaded everything, does that make 
sense?  Is there another way?


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ABBYY FineReader Express

2013-01-26 Thread ROD SKENE
Hi,
I just purchased ABBYY FineReader Express. It seems to be pretty simple, but is 
there a podcast demonstrating
 the app? I often overlook many features with new apps.
Thanks,
Rod

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Re: ABBYY FineReader Express

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
Hi.
I can't honestly think if there is a podcast out there.
It seams like a very simple app to learn.

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> I just purchased ABBYY FineReader Express. It seems to be pretty simple, but 
> is there a podcast demonstrating
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> Thanks,
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anti virus?

2013-01-26 Thread Kerri
speaking of viruses, what is a good anti virus program?
On 2013-01-26, at 2:45 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:

> Mary,
> 
> There is no need to pay Apple $200 to do something that you can do yourself 
> at home.  Remember that unlike on Windows we can reinstall the operating 
> system ourselves without any sighted assistance what so ever.
> 
> What makes you think that your Mac has an infection?  I believe that it is 
> highly unlikely that your Mac has a virus but as we all know just because we 
> are using a Mac does not mean that we are immune.
> 
> Scott Rumery
> Senior Partner
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> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Mary Scott  wrote:
> 
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>> sense?  Is there another way?
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removing mail folders from favorites.

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
Hi all.
Not sure if my message went through.
I am trying to remove a folder from my favorites bar.
Does anybody have any ideas?
Thanks.
Chris

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Re: anti virus?

2013-01-26 Thread Ray Foret Jr
There are some who say that Eset is supposed to be both good and totally 
accessible.


Sincerely,
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On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> speaking of viruses, what is a good anti virus program?
> On 2013-01-26, at 2:45 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:
> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> There is no need to pay Apple $200 to do something that you can do yourself 
>> at home.  Remember that unlike on Windows we can reinstall the operating 
>> system ourselves without any sighted assistance what so ever.
>> 
>> What makes you think that your Mac has an infection?  I believe that it is 
>> highly unlikely that your Mac has a virus but as we all know just because we 
>> are using a Mac does not mean that we are immune.
>> 
>> Scott Rumery
>> Senior Partner
>> Fedora Outlier, LLC
>> Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT ™ consulting, teaching and support
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>> 
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>> 
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>>> computer clean of viruses that have invaded everything, does that make 
>>> sense?  Is there another way?
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reording clips in IMovie

2013-01-26 Thread keith weatherly
I need help ASAP I’m working on a video for my church, the problem i’m 
having is after moving my video to the project browser and creating my 
beginning title the video is playing before my title page. The title page is 
coming on after the video finishes instead of before the video starts. Could 
someone tell me how to reorder this without having to delete everything and 
putting the clip in the list then putting the title page so that it will come 
up first. I’m about to pull my hair out over here cause i know there’s a easyer 
way to reorder. Thank you for any responces.  Cutting and pasting of course 
does not do the trick for this. i would like to finish this before i go to bed, 
lol!!

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Accidentally Removed App from LaunchPad!

2013-01-26 Thread jshandra72
Hey guys, 
I need assistance! Today is totally not my day. I accidently removed an app 
from launchpad on my MacBook Pro. How can I put it back there. Thanks for the 
help! 
j. P. 

Typed with Fleksy
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reordering in IMovie

2013-01-26 Thread keith weatherly
I’m sorry, i’m running Lion with VoiceOver on my MacBook and the latest IMovie.

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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread May and Noah
My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.

I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
moment.

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On 2013-01-26, at 2:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Yes, I almost forgot I had those. The Neuance voices are everywhere now, LOL. 
> They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices have the 
> strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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>> There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running Lion or 
>> later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to pay 
>> extra for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. I wish 
>> we had Ivona for Mac. But at least the  Mac has Alex, which is excellent.
>> 
>> Mary
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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Devin Prater
Tyler? Never heard of that one.
On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:43 PM, May and Noah  wrote:

> My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.
> 
> I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
> moment.
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> On 2013-01-26, at 2:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
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>> Yes, I almost forgot I had those. The Neuance voices are everywhere now, 
>> LOL. They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices 
>> have the strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>>> There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running Lion or 
>>> later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to pay 
>>> extra for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. I wish 
>>> we had Ivona for Mac. But at least the  Mac has Alex, which is excellent.
>>> 
>>> Mary
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>>> Mary Otten
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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well, right now, I'm using Heather.  The new Will is their best American 
English Voice.


Sincerely,
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On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:43 PM, May and Noah  wrote:

> My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.
> 
> I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
> moment.
> 
> May and Prince Noah
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> 
> On 2013-01-26, at 2:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I almost forgot I had those. The Neuance voices are everywhere now, 
>> LOL. They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices 
>> have the strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>>> There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running Lion or 
>>> later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to pay 
>>> extra for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. I wish 
>>> we had Ivona for Mac. But at least the  Mac has Alex, which is excellent.
>>> 
>>> Mary
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>>> Mary Otten
>>> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Ray Foret Jr
That's their Australian male voice-part of their latest group of new voices.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Tyler? Never heard of that one.
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:43 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
> 
>> My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.
>> 
>> I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
>> moment.
>> 
>> May and Prince Noah
>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>> 
>> On 2013-01-26, at 2:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, I almost forgot I had those. The Neuance voices are everywhere now, 
>>> LOL. They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices 
>>> have the strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
 There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running Lion 
 or later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to pay 
 extra for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. I wish 
 we had Ivona for Mac. But at least the  Mac has Alex, which is excellent.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread May and Noah
Think he's one of the newer ones because he definitely wasn't there when I 
first installed these voices.

May and Prince Noah
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On 2013-01-26, at 7:44 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Tyler? Never heard of that one.
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:43 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
> 
>> My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.
>> 
>> I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
>> moment.
>> 
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>> On 2013-01-26, at 2:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
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>>> LOL. They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices 
>>> have the strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
 There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running Lion 
 or later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to pay 
 extra for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. I wish 
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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread May and Noah
Hmm, I haven't tried Will, but Heather is good which is why I still have her 
around, *smiles*

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> Well, right now, I'm using Heather.  The new Will is their best American 
> English Voice.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
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> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:43 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
> 
>> My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.
>> 
>> I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
>> moment.
>> 
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>> 
>> On 2013-01-26, at 2:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
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>>> LOL. They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices 
>>> have the strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
 There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running Lion 
 or later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to pay 
 extra for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. I wish 
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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Devin Prater
Ah, OK. When I get some money, I might try them. But how do they compare with 
Alex?
On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> That's their Australian male voice-part of their latest group of new voices.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
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> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> Tyler? Never heard of that one.
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:43 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
>> 
>>> My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.
>>> 
>>> I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
>>> moment.
>>> 
>>> May and Prince Noah
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>>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>>> 
>>> On 2013-01-26, at 2:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, I almost forgot I had those. The Neuance voices are everywhere now, 
 LOL. They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices 
 have the strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
 On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
> There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running Lion 
> or later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to 
> pay extra for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. I 
> wish we had Ivona for Mac. But at least the  Mac has Alex, which is 
> excellent.
> 
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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread May and Noah
Ah and Sarina is the other voice I use. She's one of the built in voices. 

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On 2013-01-26, at 7:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> That's their Australian male voice-part of their latest group of new voices.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> Tyler? Never heard of that one.
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:43 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
>> 
>>> My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.
>>> 
>>> I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
>>> moment.
>>> 
>>> May and Prince Noah
>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>>> 
>>> On 2013-01-26, at 2:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, I almost forgot I had those. The Neuance voices are everywhere now, 
 LOL. They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices 
 have the strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
 On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
> There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running Lion 
> or later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to 
> pay extra for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. I 
> wish we had Ivona for Mac. But at least the  Mac has Alex, which is 
> excellent.
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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I think they compare very favorably indeed.  At this moment, I'm using the 
American English Heather:  and, to tell you the truth, I find this voice 
actually more responsive than Alex.  The Nuance voices-such as come free with 
Lion or above-are next in line to the quickness of response of the Acapella 
voices.  So, are they worth what you pay?  Well, I think so.


Sincerely,
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Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Ah, OK. When I get some money, I might try them. But how do they compare with 
> Alex?
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> That's their Australian male voice-part of their latest group of new voices.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> Tyler? Never heard of that one.
>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:43 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
>>> 
 My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.
 
 I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
 moment.
 
 May and Prince Noah
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 m...@canadianlynx.ca
 
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> LOL. They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices 
> have the strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running Lion 
>> or later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to 
>> pay extra for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. 
>> I wish we had Ivona for Mac. But at least the  Mac has Alex, which is 
>> excellent.
>> 
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>> 
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>> motte...@gmail.com
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IBooks Author

2013-01-26 Thread Joanne Chua
Hi All,

Have anyone on this list use IBooks Author before? If so, how
accessible and user friendly for voiceover user.

Thanks

Regards
Joanne

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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Devin Prater
Hmm. How much do these akapella voices cost? Do they breathe or are expressive 
as Alex or the other macintalk voices are?
On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Well, right now, I'm using Heather.  The new Will is their best American 
> English Voice.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
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> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:43 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
> 
>> My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.
>> 
>> I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
>> moment.
>> 
>> May and Prince Noah
>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>> 
>> On 2013-01-26, at 2:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, I almost forgot I had those. The Neuance voices are everywhere now, 
>>> LOL. They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices 
>>> have the strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
 There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running Lion 
 or later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to pay 
 extra for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. I wish 
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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
I do believe somebody said they are 20$ or more depending on what languages. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Hmm. How much do these akapella voices cost? Do they breathe or are 
> expressive as Alex or the other macintalk voices are?
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Well, right now, I'm using Heather.  The new Will is their best American 
>> English Voice.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:43 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
>> 
>>> My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.
>>> 
>>> I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
>>> moment.
>>> 
>>> May and Prince Noah
>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>>> 
>>> On 2013-01-26, at 2:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, I almost forgot I had those. The Neuance voices are everywhere now, 
 LOL. They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices 
 have the strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
 On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
> There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running Lion 
> or later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to 
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> wish we had Ivona for Mac. But at least the  Mac has Alex, which is 
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Ios tts, was Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Michael Babcock
Are there any third-party text to speech engines for iOS? In addition, are the 
voices built into IOS the only voices available? I know Neo speech has a 
version of Paul, that is available on the app store, but it's not for voice 
overusage, Just mp3 generation

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On Jan 26, 2013, at 5:51 PM, May and Noah  wrote:

> Think he's one of the newer ones because he definitely wasn't there when I 
> first installed these voices.
> 
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
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> 
> On 2013-01-26, at 7:44 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> Tyler? Never heard of that one.
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:43 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
>> 
>>> My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.
>>> 
>>> I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
>>> moment.
>>> 
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>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>>> 
>>> On 2013-01-26, at 2:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, I almost forgot I had those. The Neuance voices are everywhere now, 
 LOL. They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices 
 have the strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
 On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
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> or later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to 
> pay extra for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. I 
> wish we had Ivona for Mac. But at least the  Mac has Alex, which is 
> excellent.
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Re: Ios tts, was Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Devin Prater
There is Kate, Paul and  Julie. There are also the akapella voices in "speak 
it!". They don't integrate with VO though. As far as I know, on unjailbroken 
iOS, there are no other voices.
On Jan 26, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Michael Babcock  
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> Are there any third-party text to speech engines for iOS? In addition, are 
> the voices built into IOS the only voices available? I know Neo speech has a 
> version of Paul, that is available on the app store, but it's not for voice 
> overusage, Just mp3 generation
> 
> http://empoweringtheblind.com
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> 
> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 5:51 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
> 
>> Think he's one of the newer ones because he definitely wasn't there when I 
>> first installed these voices.
>> 
>> May and Prince Noah
>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>> 
>> On 2013-01-26, at 7:44 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> Tyler? Never heard of that one.
>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:43 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
>>> 
 My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.
 
 I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
 moment.
 
 May and Prince Noah
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 m...@canadianlynx.ca
 
 On 2013-01-26, at 2:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
 
> Yes, I almost forgot I had those. The Neuance voices are everywhere now, 
> LOL. They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices 
> have the strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running Lion 
>> or later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to 
>> pay extra for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. 
>> I wish we had Ivona for Mac. But at least the  Mac has Alex, which is 
>> excellent.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: Ios tts, was Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Michael Babcock
What about on jailbroken iOS? In addition, does anyone know of a stable 
jailbroken version for the four ass? To the best of my research, I have found 
that there is not one of iOS 6.0.1 yet

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On Jan 26, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> There is Kate, Paul and  Julie. There are also the akapella voices in "speak 
> it!". They don't integrate with VO though. As far as I know, on unjailbroken 
> iOS, there are no other voices.
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Michael Babcock  
> wrote:
> 
>> Are there any third-party text to speech engines for iOS? In addition, are 
>> the voices built into IOS the only voices available? I know Neo speech has a 
>> version of Paul, that is available on the app store, but it's not for voice 
>> overusage, Just mp3 generation
>> 
>> http://empoweringtheblind.com
>> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 5:51 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
>> 
>>> Think he's one of the newer ones because he definitely wasn't there when I 
>>> first installed these voices.
>>> 
>>> May and Prince Noah
>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>>> 
>>> On 2013-01-26, at 7:44 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
 Tyler? Never heard of that one.
 On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:43 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
 
> My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.
> 
> I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
> moment.
> 
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
> m...@canadianlynx.ca
> 
> On 2013-01-26, at 2:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I almost forgot I had those. The Neuance voices are everywhere now, 
>> LOL. They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices 
>> have the strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>>> There are also the free ones you get via download if you're running 
>>> Lion or later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You 
>>> have to pay extra for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on 
>>> Windows. I wish we had Ivona for Mac. But at least the  Mac has Alex, 
>>> which is excellent.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Mary Otten
>>> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: removing mail folders from favorites.

2013-01-26 Thread Alex Hall
Route your mouse to it and lock the mouse down with vo-cmd-shift-space. Turn 
off cursor tracking with vo-shift-f3, then stop interacting with the favorites 
bar group and find a splitter or some other area with nothing in it. Route your 
mouse there (vo-f5) and then unlock the mouse (vo-cmd-shift-space again). That 
should serve to drag the folder out of the favorites. If this does not work, 
close and then re-open mail, then try again. I find I have to do this after 
every dragging action or it won't work the next time I try.
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> Not sure if my message went through.
> I am trying to remove a folder from my favorites bar.
> Does anybody have any ideas?
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Re: removing mail folders from favorites.

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
Thanks Alex.
I tried this, it worked.

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> off cursor tracking with vo-shift-f3, then stop interacting with the 
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> it. Route your mouse there (vo-f5) and then unlock the mouse 
> (vo-cmd-shift-space again). That should serve to drag the folder out of the 
> favorites. If this does not work, close and then re-open mail, then try 
> again. I find I have to do this after every dragging action or it won't work 
> the next time I try.
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> 
>> Hi all.
>> Not sure if my message went through.
>> I am trying to remove a folder from my favorites bar.
>> Does anybody have any ideas?
>> Thanks.
>> Chris
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Single user mode?

2013-01-26 Thread Alex Hall
. 
I was trying to boot into single user mode just now, but instead of booting, I 
got a screen with some text on it; that was all I could make out, that their 
was probably some text on the screen and not my desktop. How do I actually boot 
into this mode? I want to do this so I can test as much of my ran as I can. 
Thanks. 





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Accessible Mac file recovery utilities?

2013-01-26 Thread Darrell Shandrow

Hello Everyone,

I've tested four different trial versions of file recovery tools today, 
only to find they're not VoiceOver accessible.


Does anyone out here use an effective, accessible tool for undeleting 
files in Mac OS X?


Thanks,

Darrell

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program that will back up macintosh drive and bootcamp drive on osx?

2013-01-26 Thread hank smith
Hello I am looking for a back up program that will back both my 
macintosh drive and my bootcamp parttition to a external drive
is there such a beast that can do this and also allow me to restore both 
successfully?

Hank

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downloading newonce voices in osx lion?

2013-01-26 Thread hank smith
Hello how do I download newonce voices in osx lion? I can't seem to 
remimber how to do this.

thanks
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Re: downloading newonce voices in osx lion?

2013-01-26 Thread Devin Prater
Go to Vo utility, then speech, default voice, customize. You'll see a table, 
use the search field if you want.
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Re: TTS for mac?

2013-01-26 Thread Ray Foret Jr
The regular voices cost four voice credits each.  The credits cost $5.00 each.  
The specialized Europiean voices are 6 to 14 credits each I believe.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jan 26, 2013, at 7:30 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Hmm. How much do these akapella voices cost? Do they breathe or are 
> expressive as Alex or the other macintalk voices are?
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Well, right now, I'm using Heather.  The new Will is their best American 
>> English Voice.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:43 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
>> 
>>> My favourite from infovox are Tyler and Heather.
>>> 
>>> I use Karen as well. There's another but I can't think of her name at the 
>>> moment.
>>> 
>>> May and Prince Noah
>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>>> 
>>> On 2013-01-26, at 2:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, I almost forgot I had those. The Neuance voices are everywhere now, 
 LOL. They aren't anywhere as good as Alex though, and the premium voices 
 have the strange pitch issue. I do like how Tom handles commas. 
 On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
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> or later. Those are Nuance and are supplied free by Apple. You have to 
> pay extra for those if you want to run them using, say NVDA on Windows. I 
> wish we had Ivona for Mac. But at least the  Mac has Alex, which is 
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Re: Accessible Mac file recovery utilities?

2013-01-26 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Which ones did you test so we'll know to avoid them?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:05 PM, Darrell Shandrow  
wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I've tested four different trial versions of file recovery tools today, only 
> to find they're not VoiceOver accessible.
> 
> Does anyone out here use an effective, accessible tool for undeleting files 
> in Mac OS X?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Darrell
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Re: OT :Abbyy FineReader Express on sale in Mac App Store!

2013-01-26 Thread Eric Oyen
why is it that these things always go on sale when I have the least cash? I 
will just bet that it will be back up to regular price by the 3rd of next 
month. 

-eric

On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:45 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:

> OT :Abbyy FineReader Express! 
> 
> For anybody who has been considering purchasing Abbyy FineReader Express, now 
> is your best opportunity. It is on sale in the Mac App Store. It normally 
> sells for 99.99, it is 50% off. It is now on sale for 49.99. This is one of 
> the best OCR engines. The voice over capability with Express is wonderful. 
> Just so you know, it supports many different languages. Hope this helps some 
> people considering this purchase. j. p.
> Sent from my iPod: jshandr...@gmail.com
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Re: program that will back up macintosh drive and bootcamp drive on osx?

2013-01-26 Thread Chris H
I wonder if Super Duper or Carbon Copy Cloner can do this. Time Machine 
which is built in may even do this.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 27/01/2013 05:07, hank smith wrote:

Hello I am looking for a back up program that will back both my
macintosh drive and my bootcamp parttition to a external drive
is there such a beast that can do this and also allow me to restore both
successfully?
Hank



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