date:20120809

Okay, I attempted several times to drag my Mac List mailbox over to my 
Favorites bar so that it will pop up when pressing command 2.  I went to the 
list and marked it successfully for dragging.  I went to Drafts which is in the 
second position and marked it for dropping.  It made the satisfying dragging 
noises and then said it failed to drop of Drafts.  What else can I do?  Mel 

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Re: Organizing files and folders

Do it on your drives, then it should apply to all folders inside those drives. 
Unfortunately, I can't find a way to change these globally, but you should see 
a checkbox to apply to all subfolders or something along those lines. Thanks 
for the tip about using kind, I never knew what that did. I will enjoy having 
my folders together and separate from my files.
On Aug 9, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Angie Giltinan  wrote:

> If we use the view options, will that apply to all folders, and stay applied? 
> In other words, I close that finder window, then re-open it, will my view 
> options remain as I set them?
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 5:06 AM, Garth Humphreys  wrote:
> 
>> Hi 
>> 
>> One way of getting yourself some of the way to where you want is to go into 
>> the view options. Press command + J to bring these up. Now Put arrange by to 
>> Kind and sort by to Name or whatever you like. The defaults are to arrange 
>> by None and sort by date modified. But if you put Arrange by Kind then the 
>> folders will be grouped together.
>> 
>> 
>> Garth 
>> 
>> www.iblindtech.com/
>> Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catcher to subscribe 
>> to the iBlindTech Democast.
>> 
>> Follow me on twitter @BlindTechMusing or @iBlindTech for podcast info.
>> 
>> Send email to iblindt...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On 09/08/2012, at 1:22 PM, Veronica Elsea  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone!
>>> This discussion of setting up folders reminded me of a question I've had 
>>> for a long time. Coming from the Windows world, when I'd go into my 
>>> documents folder, I was used to finding the folders listed first, then all 
>>> of the files in alphabetical order. It drives me crazy having the file and 
>>> folder names all mixed up together like this. Is there any way to sort 
>>> things so that I see folders first? Just curious. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Veronica
>>> 
>>> Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at 
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
>>> Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at 
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
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Re: 20 reasons why being blind is great

This was great and I want to listen to more of these podcasts but I can't get 
to them through the link given.  Is there a command or way to bypass the actual 
podcast to get to the others?  This is a VO question now.  Grin.  Mel
On Jul 29, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Blinkin  wrote:

> All,
>   First of all I hope I don't get in trouble since this has absolutely 
> nothing to do with technology but I thought yawl might need a smile.
>   I just published another How to be Blind Podcast and it is called 20 
> Reasons why being blind is great.
>   If you need a break from your day take a handful of minutes and give it 
> a listen. Enjoy!
> 
> Here is the link
> http://htb2.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/episode-20-why-being-blind-is-great.mp3
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iTunes paranoia

I have a mental block when it come to iTunes.  Can somebody direct me to a very 
friendly guide to create a  playlist so I can listen to my songs.  I want the 
iTunes store BS to be vanquished if possible. 

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Re: Organizing files and folders

2012-08-09 Thread Garth Humphreys

Check out the view menu as well, you'll find that there are keyboard shortcuts 
for swapping between the various arrange options.


Garth 

www.iblindtech.com/
Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catcher to subscribe to 
the iBlindTech Democast.

Follow me on twitter @BlindTechMusing or @iBlindTech for podcast info.

Send email to iblindt...@gmail.com
  .
On 09/08/2012, at 11:36 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Do it on your drives, then it should apply to all folders inside those 
> drives. Unfortunately, I can't find a way to change these globally, but you 
> should see a checkbox to apply to all subfolders or something along those 
> lines. Thanks for the tip about using kind, I never knew what that did. I 
> will enjoy having my folders together and separate from my files.
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Angie Giltinan  wrote:
> 
>> If we use the view options, will that apply to all folders, and stay 
>> applied? In other words, I close that finder window, then re-open it, will 
>> my view options remain as I set them?
>> On Aug 9, 2012, at 5:06 AM, Garth Humphreys  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi 
>>> 
>>> One way of getting yourself some of the way to where you want is to go into 
>>> the view options. Press command + J to bring these up. Now Put arrange by 
>>> to Kind and sort by to Name or whatever you like. The defaults are to 
>>> arrange by None and sort by date modified. But if you put Arrange by Kind 
>>> then the folders will be grouped together.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Garth 
>>> 
>>> www.iblindtech.com/
>>> Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catcher to subscribe 
>>> to the iBlindTech Democast.
>>> 
>>> Follow me on twitter @BlindTechMusing or @iBlindTech for podcast info.
>>> 
>>> Send email to iblindt...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On 09/08/2012, at 1:22 PM, Veronica Elsea  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone!
 This discussion of setting up folders reminded me of a question I've had 
 for a long time. Coming from the Windows world, when I'd go into my 
 documents folder, I was used to finding the folders listed first, then all 
 of the files in alphabetical order. It drives me crazy having the file and 
 folder names all mixed up together like this. Is there any way to sort 
 things so that I see folders first? Just curious. Thanks.
 
 Veronica
 
 Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
 Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at 
 http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
 Veronica Elsea, Owner
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Re: 20 reasons why being blind is great

2012-08-09 Thread Chris Moore

You can find these podcasts on iBlink Radio app for the iPhone
On 9 Aug 2012, at 14:39, Mary Scott  wrote:

> This was great and I want to listen to more of these podcasts but I can't get 
> to them through the link given.  Is there a command or way to bypass the 
> actual podcast to get to the others?  This is a VO question now.  Grin.  Mel
> On Jul 29, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Blinkin  wrote:
> 
>> All,
>>  First of all I hope I don't get in trouble since this has absolutely 
>> nothing to do with technology but I thought yawl might need a smile.
>>  I just published another How to be Blind Podcast and it is called 20 
>> Reasons why being blind is great.
>>  If you need a break from your day take a handful of minutes and give it 
>> a listen. Enjoy!
>> 
>> Here is the link
>> http://htb2.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/episode-20-why-being-blind-is-great.mp3
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Re: Voice Changer that Works Through Skype

2012-08-09 Thread Chris Blouch

Depending on how serious, I'm not sure you're going to find such a
specialized plugin, at least not for cheap. I would check into something
like the SRS Voice Changer

http://www.srs.kiev.ua/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52:srs-voice-changer&catid=6:2009-07-15-06-15-01&Itemid=16&lang=en

or a generalized noise filter which includes voice changer:

http://acustek.com/forensicaudio/anf.html

On 8/8/12 8:06 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

I should have been more specific. The person is being interviewed live on the
radio via Skype. It's important that we protect the person's identity for
reasons of privacy and safety. the interview cannot be pre taped, as the
interviewee insists on doing the interview live.

So, again, if anyone knows of software that can achieve this, I'd be most
grateful.

Kevin

On 2012-08-08, at 11:22 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

It also depends on how much security is required. If they need obfuscation then
you doing a pitch drop can just as easily be undone by somebody else. I
wouldn't rely on tools built just for fun if you're really in need of
protecting somebody's identity. Might be best to just have them send text and
record it being read by VoiceOver. Anything that is driven by the original
audio can be unmasked.

On 8/8/12 1:27 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:

Hi Kevin, what your friend could do after the call is initially recorded, is
to edit the call in an audio editor, dropping the voice of the interviewee in
pitch. I'd say that'd be their best bet.
On 2012-08-07, at 11:46 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:

Kevin,

I know there is an iPhone app called "Voice Changer" that will do this, but I
can't imagine any legitimate job position which would require this as an initial part of
the interview process. That sounds very fishy to me. however, please check out that
app, which is mentioned as a way to have fun with your friends, etc.

I hope this helps.

Harry

On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:16 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

Hi gang,

I've got a friend who needs to interview someone through Skype, but for privacy
reasons, the interviewee's voice needs to be changed/modulated. Does anyone
know of software that can do this?

Any help is appreciated.

Regards,
Kevin

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Re: 20 reasons why being blind is great

I do not have an iPPhone yet.  What to do instead?
On Aug 9, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Chris Moore  wrote:

> You can find these podcasts on iBlink Radio app for the iPhone
> On 9 Aug 2012, at 14:39, Mary Scott  wrote:
> 
>> This was great and I want to listen to more of these podcasts but I can't 
>> get to them through the link given.  Is there a command or way to bypass the 
>> actual podcast to get to the others?  This is a VO question now.  Grin.  Mel
>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Blinkin  wrote:
>> 
>>> All,
>>> First of all I hope I don't get in trouble since this has absolutely 
>>> nothing to do with technology but I thought yawl might need a smile.
>>> I just published another How to be Blind Podcast and it is called 20 
>>> Reasons why being blind is great.
>>> If you need a break from your day take a handful of minutes and give it 
>>> a listen. Enjoy!
>>> 
>>> Here is the link
>>> http://htb2.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/episode-20-why-being-blind-is-great.mp3
>>> 
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Re: VoiceOver Getting Started for Mountain Lion

2012-08-09 Thread Mike Busboom

Hi.  

Is it possible to get an HTML version of the VoiceOver Getting Started with 
Mountain Lion document somewhere?

Many thanks,

Mike

On 8,Aug,2012, at 9:45 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:

> Okay, thanks for clarifying that point.
> 
> Les
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Shen  wrote:
> 
>> That's correct. The text of the heading is the same. And  if you click on
>> the link for the brf zip file, you will see that the file name is
>> "voiceOver_Mountain_Lion.zip".
>> And if you click on the link to buy the hardcopy, it redirects you to the
>> LightHouse page for Mountain Lion.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:42 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: VoiceOver Getting Started for Mountain Lion
>> 
>> I checked that page, and it doesn't appear that the page has been updated
>> for Mountain Lion yet.  I see reference to Getting Started with OS 10, which
>> is what I saw a couple of weeks ago.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Aug 8, 2012, at 1:10 PM, "Shen"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> Just want to share that the VoiceOver download page has now been 
>>> updated with the VoiceOver Getting Started guide for Mountain Lion. 
>>> You can download a zip archive containing brf files, or you can 
>>> purchase a hardcopy in Braille from the LightHouse for the Blind in San
>> Francisco.
>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html
>>> 
>>> Happy reading!
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Re: 20 reasons why being blind is great

2012-08-09 Thread Chris Moore

Ok, go into iTunes, and go to the iTunes store, enter how to be blind into the 
search box, you will then see a podcast listed with that title.  You will be 
able to play the podcasts from there and also subscribe to Mike's feeds. 
On 9 Aug 2012, at 16:20, Mary Scott  wrote:

> I do not have an iPPhone yet.  What to do instead?
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Chris Moore  wrote:
> 
>> You can find these podcasts on iBlink Radio app for the iPhone
>> On 9 Aug 2012, at 14:39, Mary Scott  wrote:
>> 
>>> This was great and I want to listen to more of these podcasts but I can't 
>>> get to them through the link given.  Is there a command or way to bypass 
>>> the actual podcast to get to the others?  This is a VO question now.  Grin. 
>>>  Mel
>>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Blinkin  wrote:
>>> 
 All,
First of all I hope I don't get in trouble since this has absolutely 
 nothing to do with technology but I thought yawl might need a smile.
I just published another How to be Blind Podcast and it is called 20 
 Reasons why being blind is great.
If you need a break from your day take a handful of minutes and give it 
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using jack and amadeus pro to record system audio.

2012-08-09 Thread Nektarios Mallas

Hi list.
I am trying to accomplish the above task with jack and amadeus pro.
Basically, I wish to record a stream playing in google chrome but although jack 
is accessible, I can't figure out the send and receive ports in the routing 
section. 
I am talking about the open source "jack" not audio hijack pro. 

Thanks for any help.
Nektarios.

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Attachments issue again

2012-08-09 Thread Christine Grassman

Well, I'm able to open them. I'm able to download them. But apparently, when I 
open Preview or Text Edit, all of what is supposed to be there is not there, 
according to someone else who received the same attachments at issue. There 
were several pages not read, and not downloaded. What gives?
Also, if there are two or more attachments, I cannot figure out how to select 
and save all, and there does not appear to be a "save all" that is presenting 
itself to me. (frustrated growl)
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Re: Organizing files and folders

2012-08-09 Thread rashantha de silva

Hi Veronica

Not sure if you got my previous email but I sent you a method of doing it the 
techie way. Here's a inexpensive product http://totalfinder.binaryage.com/

BTW we just camping near Santa Cruz - such an amazing place.

Rashantha
Found Quo Computer
http://www.facebook.com/quocomputer

On Aug 8, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> This discussion of setting up folders reminded me of a question I've had for 
> a long time. Coming from the Windows world, when I'd go into my documents 
> folder, I was used to finding the folders listed first, then all of the files 
> in alphabetical order. It drives me crazy having the file and folder names 
> all mixed up together like this. Is there any way to sort things so that I 
> see folders first? Just curious. Thanks.
> 
> Veronica
> 
> Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
> Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at 
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
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Re: dication

2012-08-09 Thread Krysti .Power

I said my name krysti power and it dicated it as what the hell
On 2012-08-08 9:59 PM, "Mark BurningHawk Baxter" 
wrote:

> … Your name is Ect?  You might have to spell that one. :) Or… Hmmm.  One
> wonders if there's a way to make Dictation learn a word.
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Re: dication

2012-08-09 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter

Hello, Christy. I don't know what Christie Powell I will look like when I 
dictated, but this is how it looks.

That's what Dictation transcribed when I said "Krysti Power." Now, of course, 
the spelling isn't right--there are like 18 ways to spell Krysti. :)  
Sometimes, you have to spell things, like KR YST I space POW eat on.
Well, that's another example of Dictation not working quite right, but it 
usually is better than that.  But, then people say I have an accent, so maybe 
it's me. :)  Practice with it.  Enjoy it.


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Re: Dragging and dropping frustration

2012-08-09 Thread Ioana Gandrabur

HI,

2 suggestions:
Press the zoom button to make sure that both folders are visible at moment of 
drag and drop. DOn't ask e exactly how this works but it helps.
2. Try using drop before voiceover cursor vo+the sign for less then.
3. In lion I used the other method with mouse down and mouse up for this. 
Ricardo Walker has an episode in "apple to the core" about this.

hth,
Ioana

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> Okay, I attempted several times to drag my Mac List mailbox over to my 
> Favorites bar so that it will pop up when pressing command 2.  I went to the 
> list and marked it successfully for dragging.  I went to Drafts which is in 
> the second position and marked it for dropping.  It made the satisfying 
> dragging noises and then said it failed to drop of Drafts.  What else can I 
> do?  Mel 
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Using Time Machine Inside Mail and Other Apps?

2012-08-09 Thread Teresa Cochran

Hi, all,

Has anyone had success using Time Machine inside Mail and other apps? In Mail, 
I can't seem to manipulate the time and date selector, for example.

Is there a way to go into Time Machine's folders and examine the data there? 
I'd prefer to use the interface, if it's accessible.

Thanks,
Teresa

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Issue with Escape Key in Mountain Lion

2012-08-09 Thread Mike Busboom

Greetings to all of you,

Since installing Mountain Lion, I have had loads of grief with the Escape Key 
in Pop-Up menus.  Frequently, when in a pop-up menu, I am unable to get out of 
it by issuing the Escape Key.  Has anyone else had this problem and if so, what 
is the solution?

With sincere gratitude,

Mike

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Re: Issue with Escape Key in Mountain Lion

I only seem to have this issue in the status menus, or the "menu extras" as 
VoiceOver now calls them. It doeswn't happen all the time, but when it does, 
hitting Escape just dings at me. My only solutions at this point are to either 
Command-Tab out of and back into the application you're using, if you have 
multiple applications open, or move focus to the dock and press the button for 
the application you are busy with. I hope this can be fixed in a future update.

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On 09 Aug 2012, at 9:17 PM, Mike Busboom  wrote:

> Greetings to all of you,
> 
> Since installing Mountain Lion, I have had loads of grief with the Escape Key 
> in Pop-Up menus.  Frequently, when in a pop-up menu, I am unable to get out 
> of it by issuing the Escape Key.  Has anyone else had this problem and if so, 
> what is the solution?
> 
> With sincere gratitude,
> 
> Mike
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an ABBYY FineReader Question

2012-08-09 Thread Matthew Campbell

Hi listers.
I'm wondering if any of you know if the HoverCam document cameras work with 
FineReader?
I know that one can get the HoverCam T5V to work nicely with DocuScan Plus.
Thanks for any info.
Matthew Campbell.


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Re: Dragging and dropping frustration

Thank you, I succeeded in dragging to  the mailbox after Drafts to the command 
3 position.  I don't know why or exactly how but that is good enough for me.  
It said Drafts was not draggable.  I pressed Full screen not Zoom.  Zoom did 
not work. Mel 
On Aug 9, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:

> HI,
> 
> 2 suggestions:
> Press the zoom button to make sure that both folders are visible at moment of 
> drag and drop. DOn't ask e exactly how this works but it helps.
> 2. Try using drop before voiceover cursor vo+the sign for less then.
> 3. In lion I used the other method with mouse down and mouse up for this. 
> Ricardo Walker has an episode in "apple to the core" about this.
> 
> hth,
> Ioana
> 
> Try the  
> 
> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
> stores.
> 
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:23 AM, Mary Scott  wrote:
> 
>> Okay, I attempted several times to drag my Mac List mailbox over to my 
>> Favorites bar so that it will pop up when pressing command 2.  I went to the 
>> list and marked it successfully for dragging.  I went to Drafts which is in 
>> the second position and marked it for dropping.  It made the satisfying 
>> dragging noises and then said it failed to drop of Drafts.  What else can I 
>> do?  Mel 
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Re: Organizing files and folders

2012-08-09 Thread Veronica Elsea

Thanks so much, Rashantha. I will definitely check out all of these options. 
After all, when it's all said and done, this computer is supposed to work for 
me. Hahahaha!
Thanks again.

Veronica

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Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at 
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407

On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:38 AM, rashantha de silva  wrote:

> Hi Veronica
> 
> Not sure if you got my previous email but I sent you a method of doing it the 
> techie way. Here's a inexpensive product http://totalfinder.binaryage.com/
> 
> BTW we just camping near Santa Cruz - such an amazing place.
> 
> Rashantha
> Found Quo Computer
> http://www.facebook.com/quocomputer
> 
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone!
>> This discussion of setting up folders reminded me of a question I've had for 
>> a long time. Coming from the Windows world, when I'd go into my documents 
>> folder, I was used to finding the folders listed first, then all of the 
>> files in alphabetical order. It drives me crazy having the file and folder 
>> names all mixed up together like this. Is there any way to sort things so 
>> that I see folders first? Just curious. Thanks.
>> 
>> Veronica
>> 
>> Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
>> Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at 
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
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What's your fave faceBook solution?

2012-08-09 Thread Christina C.

Hi all,

I am so frustrated.  I am not one of those people who are always on FB but when 
I do use it I am always so disappointed.  I was hoping voice book for iOS would 
be the solution.  However, I just discovered that my newsfeed is not accurate.  
So, back to the mac and Safari, but the website is so frustrating and slow.  It 
also won't let me read the whole newsfeed.  It just keeps bouncing me back to 
the top of my newsfeed after I get a few posts down the page.  :(  :(

Thanks of any help.
Sent from Christina's iMac :)

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Question About Built-In MBP Keyboard

Hi all,

Is there a way I can use the right-hand side of the built-in MacBook Pro 
keyboard as a number pad? I want to be able to use J, K, L, U, I, O, etc. as 
number keys, but can't find any kind of num lock. I can sort of get it to work 
if I turn on Mouse Keys, but that's not really going to work for me. I really 
don't want to have to keep connecting an external PC keyboard to my computer.

Regards,

Gavin Grundlingh
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Re: Question About Built-In MBP Keyboard

2012-08-09 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu

Hello.

Have you tried the FM key and the combination of letters you describe?

Kawal.

On 9 Aug 2012, at 09:57 PM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Is there a way I can use the right-hand side of the built-in MacBook Pro 
> keyboard as a number pad? I want to be able to use J, K, L, U, I, O, etc. as 
> number keys, but can't find any kind of num lock. I can sort of get it to 
> work if I turn on Mouse Keys, but that's not really going to work for me. I 
> really don't want to have to keep connecting an external PC keyboard to my 
> computer.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gavin Grundlingh
> Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
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Re: Question About Built-In MBP Keyboard

Hi Kawal,

I've just tested holding down the Fn key and using the letters I mentioned, 
with no luck. I hope what I want to accomplish is even possible.

Regards,

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On 09 Aug 2012, at 11:05 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> Have you tried the FM key and the combination of letters you describe?
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 9 Aug 2012, at 09:57 PM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Is there a way I can use the right-hand side of the built-in MacBook Pro 
>> keyboard as a number pad? I want to be able to use J, K, L, U, I, O, etc. as 
>> number keys, but can't find any kind of num lock. I can sort of get it to 
>> work if I turn on Mouse Keys, but that's not really going to work for me. I 
>> really don't want to have to keep connecting an external PC keyboard to my 
>> computer.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Gavin Grundlingh
>> Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
>> Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
>> Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
>> Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
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Re: 2 things still not fixed in Mountain Lion.

2012-08-09 Thread Chris Blouch


I'm a bit behind on email :)

I poked around and found the same thing. Apparently its a bug in the 
Apple Core Audio library. Individual MIDI apps can address this but 
nothing I found could fix playback with the Quicktime Player or Preview. 
HN2 is some kind of MIDI app that the developer has patched to work 
around Apple's bug. Best thing for now is to open it in something else 
like Garage Band.


CB

On 7/25/12 10:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
You know what, just to see if it works on my end,  I'm gonna fire up a 
midi, not in ProTools, but in just the standard Quicklook and see how 
it sounds over here, as you now got me intreigued.


Huhho! Wow!  I see what you mean.  It's very good as far as the sound, 
but, the volume is atrocious!  It is quite quiet.


Let me see if I can figure out a way to turn it up.

OK, well, after googling I found the problem.  I don't know how to fix 
it though, but it's at least a start for us.


Apparently, something in 10.7 and above with the midi Synfire gm midi 
synth broke.  This means all instrument patches are way quieter than 
normal.


The web site I went to suggested that you update to HN2 2.5.0 or 
higher to fix the problem, but I have yet been able to find a donwload 
link anywhere to do this.


Don't ask me what HN2 2.5.0 is/does?  I have no clue aside fixing the 
problem.  You now basically know what I know.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Missy Hoppe" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: 2 things still not fixed in Mountain Lion.


Also, and I freely admit that compared to your issues this one is 
petty, but midi playback is still awful under Mountain
Lion. I can play midis in VLC, or boot into snow leopard from my 
external drive to get good playback, but sometimes, I just
want to use quick preview, and it's still as poor of quality as it 
was under lion. I know it's not an important feature, but

I'm still slightly bummed out that it was never addressed.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell

Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:25 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: 2 things still not fixed in Mountain Lion.

Hi all.
I've found 2 things so far that haven't been fixed in Mountain Lion.
1. Tables in documents. These still appear to not work properly with 
VoiceOver. VO still announces new line new line when I

tried this just now.
2. Web page selection. This still doesn't work. I know that the web 
page scrolls when I move with the arrow keys, but

VoiceOver is still not reporting that the page is scrolling.
I think I'll be sending these findings to Apple Accessibility to see 
what they have to say about these really old issues.

Sorry to spoil the good mood of the new OS launch, Matthew Campbell.


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Re: VoiceOver Getting Started for Mountain Lion

2012-08-09 Thread Esther

Hi Mike,
I answered this question last week for William Windels (Durch
version).VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Mountain Lion (HTML
versions) are available:
English:
http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/index.html
German:
http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/German.lproj/index.html

HTH. Cheers,

Esther
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question about recording with mac

Hi all,
Here's the problem: I want to record my guitar along with a song playing on the 
mac.
Here's what I have:
an amp going into the line-in port of the mac,
the latest Soundflower release,
an aggregate audio device set to use built-in input and soundflower,
audacity, recordPad, and vlc for recording,
vlc, quicktime (modern and v7 as recommended by Chris) for output (I also have 
iTunes, but hate it).

So, given that, how can I do this? The way I see it, I need to record my 
aggregate device in my recorder. The problem is piping the song I'm playing 
with into soundflower, and still being able to hear it as it plays so I know 
what I'm doing. Of course, I don't want to lose vo speech, so I can't just 
redirect system audio to soundflower (besides, I'd lose the song then anyway). 
Am I misunderstanding how this works? That is, will I in fact lose audio I pipe 
to soundflower, or will it still play through the speakers connected to my 
headphone jack? I'm using a Mac Mini, if that matters. Thanks for any thoughts.


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Re: What's your fave faceBook solution?

2012-08-09 Thread Ed Worrell

Hello, the app that I have had the most luck with is Ace For Facebook. This is 
a great app. You may want to relabel some buttons, but the buttons all work, 
there is a free version of the app if you want to try it out. The paid version 
gets rid of the adds. If you have any questions feel free to email me off list 
ed.worr...@me.com

hth

Ed
On Aug 9, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Christina C.  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I am so frustrated.  I am not one of those people who are always on FB but 
> when I do use it I am always so disappointed.  I was hoping voice book for 
> iOS would be the solution.  However, I just discovered that my newsfeed is 
> not accurate.  So, back to the mac and Safari, but the website is so 
> frustrating and slow.  It also won't let me read the whole newsfeed.  It just 
> keeps bouncing me back to the top of my newsfeed after I get a few posts down 
> the page.  :(  :(
> 
> Thanks of any help.
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
> 
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Problems with Extras Menu New Apps

2012-08-09 Thread Brian Fischler

Hey all,

Been trying to add some new apps to my mac, and I have noticed that
anything I try and add that puts itself in the Menu Extras doesn't
seem to work with VO. It could be that these apps do not work with
Voiceover, or it could be that the Menus Extras just dones't work very
well with VO. My dropbox works fine, but I tried to install Menu Pages
for Facebook, got it successfully downloaded from the App store as it
is in my app folder, but when I go to launch it, it just appears in
the menu extras, and will tell me that Menu Pages for Facebook has no
windows. I have tried installing other apps that send themselves to
the Menus Extras all free Facebook related apps and anything that goes
in to the menu extras just doesn't seem to work. Has anyone put
anything successfully in to the menu extras outside of dropbox? Thanks

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Re: Problems with Extras Menu New Apps

Hi Brian,

When you say that the menu extras don't work, do you mean that no menu comes up 
when you press VO-Space on a particular item? I've added a couple of things 
besides Dropbox to mine, and they all work perfectly.

Regards,

Gavin Grundlingh
Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
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On 10 Aug 2012, at 1:17 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> Been trying to add some new apps to my mac, and I have noticed that
> anything I try and add that puts itself in the Menu Extras doesn't
> seem to work with VO. It could be that these apps do not work with
> Voiceover, or it could be that the Menus Extras just dones't work very
> well with VO. My dropbox works fine, but I tried to install Menu Pages
> for Facebook, got it successfully downloaded from the App store as it
> is in my app folder, but when I go to launch it, it just appears in
> the menu extras, and will tell me that Menu Pages for Facebook has no
> windows. I have tried installing other apps that send themselves to
> the Menus Extras all free Facebook related apps and anything that goes
> in to the menu extras just doesn't seem to work. Has anyone put
> anything successfully in to the menu extras outside of dropbox? Thanks
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Re: Problems with Extras Menu New Apps

2012-08-09 Thread Brian Fischler

That is correct, no menu comes up or pops down. I even had trouble
getting Trillion to work. What have you installed on your menu extras
bar that works

On Aug 9, 7:20 pm, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> When you say that the menu extras don't work, do you mean that no menu comes 
> up when you press VO-Space on a particular item? I've added a couple of 
> things besides Dropbox to mine, and they all work perfectly.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gavin Grundlingh
> Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
> Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
> Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
> Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
> Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za
> Skype: Batworx
> Facebook:http://www.facebook.com/batworx
> Twitter:http://twitter.com/baworx
>
> On 10 Aug 2012, at 1:17 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hey all,
>
> > Been trying to add some new apps to my mac, and I have noticed that
> > anything I try and add that puts itself in the Menu Extras doesn't
> > seem to work with VO. It could be that these apps do not work with
> > Voiceover, or it could be that the Menus Extras just dones't work very
> > well with VO. My dropbox works fine, but I tried to install Menu Pages
> > for Facebook, got it successfully downloaded from the App store as it
> > is in my app folder, but when I go to launch it, it just appears in
> > the menu extras, and will tell me that Menu Pages for Facebook has no
> > windows. I have tried installing other apps that send themselves to
> > the Menus Extras all free Facebook related apps and anything that goes
> > in to the menu extras just doesn't seem to work. Has anyone put
> > anything successfully in to the menu extras outside of dropbox? Thanks
>
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Re: What's your fave faceBook solution?

Did you not see the long drawn out guide I posted here on how to get FB to work 
better with Safari?  I posted it about half a month ago.

Chris.

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  From: Christina C. 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 4:41 PM
  Subject: What's your fave faceBook solution?

  Hi all,

  I am so frustrated.  I am not one of those people who are always on FB but 
when I do use it I am always so disappointed.  I was hoping voice book for iOS 
would be the solution.  However, I just discovered that my newsfeed is not 
accurate.  So, back to the mac and Safari, but the website is so frustrating 
and slow.  It also won't let me read the whole newsfeed.  It just keeps 
bouncing me back to the top of my newsfeed after I get a few posts down the 
page.  :(  :(

  Thanks of any help.

  Sent from Christina's iMac :)

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Re: What's your fave faceBook solution?

You say that you have to label some buttons... is this because they are not 
correctly labeled in the first place, or it is more just they're not labeled 
very well.

Chris.

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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 7:10 PM
  Subject: Re: What's your fave faceBook solution?

  Hello, the app that I have had the most luck with is Ace For Facebook. This 
is a great app. You may want to relabel some buttons, but the buttons all work, 
there is a free version of the app if you want to try it out. The paid version 
gets rid of the adds. If you have any questions feel free to email me off list 
ed.worr...@me.com

  hth

  Ed

  On Aug 9, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Christina C.  wrote:

Hi all,

I am so frustrated.  I am not one of those people who are always on FB but 
when I do use it I am always so disappointed.  I was hoping voice book for iOS 
would be the solution.  However, I just discovered that my newsfeed is not 
accurate.  So, back to the mac and Safari, but the website is so frustrating 
and slow.  It also won't let me read the whole newsfeed.  It just keeps 
bouncing me back to the top of my newsfeed after I get a few posts down the 
page.  :(  :(

Thanks of any help.

Sent from Christina's iMac :) 

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Re: Problems with Extras Menu New Apps


Hold on here...

When you are focussed on the extras menu item, what're you then hitting to 
open it?  You need to focus on the extra menu item of your choice, then hit 
vo+space.  It works slightly differently than the regular menu bar items, 
and I basically just found that out by playing around with it.  So, instead 
of hitting vo+down arrow to drop the menu down/opened, hit vo+space instead. 
Then vo+down arrow like you would normally through a menu, and when on the 
option you want hit vo+space to select it, or vo+right arrow/left arrow to 
expand/collapse it if it's a sub menu item.


Chris.

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From: "Brian Fischler" 

To: "MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 7:17 PM
Subject: Problems with Extras Menu New Apps



Hey all,

Been trying to add some new apps to my mac, and I have noticed that
anything I try and add that puts itself in the Menu Extras doesn't
seem to work with VO. It could be that these apps do not work with
Voiceover, or it could be that the Menus Extras just dones't work very
well with VO. My dropbox works fine, but I tried to install Menu Pages
for Facebook, got it successfully downloaded from the App store as it
is in my app folder, but when I go to launch it, it just appears in
the menu extras, and will tell me that Menu Pages for Facebook has no
windows. I have tried installing other apps that send themselves to
the Menus Extras all free Facebook related apps and anything that goes
in to the menu extras just doesn't seem to work. Has anyone put
anything successfully in to the menu extras outside of dropbox? Thanks

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Re: Problems with Extras Menu New Apps

Brian, for one thing, have you thought about using Adium, instead of 
Trillian?  might I ask why you're using Trillian instead?

Second of all, I, too have the Facebook app you referred to.  It seems to 
come up fine for me.

Now, what I have hoticed however is some of the apps, such as one I have 
called RSS menu for example, even though set to come up when I log on, still 
tend to not get mounted up in the extras section until I manually open them 
from my dock/apps folder after rebooting.  On that note, it's a bit bizarre. 
I'm not really totally sure why that's happening, but aside that, I've had 
no trouble.

In my extras, i have things like Adium, Skype when it's running, Dropbox, 
RSS Menu, Menu Weather, Boxcar, sometimes the native AIM client, which by 
the way, yes, is totally! Voiceover friendly before anyone asks, not sure 
what else.  I think that's about it.  All of them however seem to work just 
fine over here for what it's worth.  Oh, wait a minute.  I also have Growl.

Chris.

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From: "Brian Fischler" 

To: "MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Problems with Extras Menu New Apps

That is correct, no menu comes up or pops down. I even had trouble
getting Trillion to work. What have you installed on your menu extras
bar that works

On Aug 9, 7:20 pm, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:

Hi Brian,

When you say that the menu extras don't work, do you mean that no menu 
comes up when you press VO-Space on a particular item? I've added a couple 
of things besides Dropbox to mine, and they all work perfectly.

Regards,

Gavin Grundlingh
Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za
Skype: Batworx
Facebook:http://www.facebook.com/batworx
Twitter:http://twitter.com/baworx

On 10 Aug 2012, at 1:17 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey all,

> Been trying to add some new apps to my mac, and I have noticed that
> anything I try and add that puts itself in the Menu Extras doesn't
> seem to work with VO. It could be that these apps do not work with
> Voiceover, or it could be that the Menus Extras just dones't work very
> well with VO. My dropbox works fine, but I tried to install Menu Pages
> for Facebook, got it successfully downloaded from the App store as it
> is in my app folder, but when I go to launch it, it just appears in
> the menu extras, and will tell me that Menu Pages for Facebook has no
> windows. I have tried installing other apps that send themselves to
> the Menus Extras all free Facebook related apps and anything that goes
> in to the menu extras just doesn't seem to work. Has anyone put
> anything successfully in to the menu extras outside of dropbox? Thanks

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Mail issue

Hi all, I just downloaded ML so I am sorry if this has been answered.  Mail was 
working great at first but now if I click on a link in order to go to a 
website, it goes to Finder and says Safari is running in the background which 
means I have to move through windows to find the site and then mail acts very 
strange and I have trouble getting back to it.  Any ideas what is going on?  
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confused about cursor tracking in textEdit

Hi all,
I was just sent a guide on Garageband and opened it with textedit. I read line 
by line for a bit until I found where I wanted to be, then hit vo-a to read 
from that point on. No matter what I do, though, vo-a starts reading the 
document from the beginning, not from where I stopped arrowing. I even tried 
vo-cmd-f4 to move vo to keyboard focus, and the f5 command to move keyboard to 
vo, but neither work. Is this a bug, or am I missing an obvious step? This 
seems to work in mail, the only other place I generally use vo-a, but in 
textEdit it always moves to the top of the document first. Any thoughts? Thanks.


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textEdit problem solved: always interact!

Hi all,
I feel pretty stupid, but I figured out my textEdit problem, where vo-a always 
started from the top of the file. It turns out textEdit opens the file and vo 
reads it, but vo does not automatically interact with the edit text area like I 
thought it would. I interacted and all is working normally. Sorry about that, 
but it is a good lesson for me. *sheepishly presses the send button*


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When I get the iMac

2012-08-09 Thread agent086b


Hi all,
just getting ready for when I purchase my iMac in the next week or sow.
What do I need to do on it's arrival? I assume it comes with an 
administrator account so I expect I will need to create a non admin one. 
Other than getting it online is there anything else I will need to do? I 
will be purchasing it directly from Apple as I don't have an Apple store 
in my town, so I don't have anyone local to ask these questions.

Thanks as always for any help.
Max.

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Re: When I get the iMac

There is some setup to go through. Fortunately, you need only hit cmd-f5 once 
the mac is booted and vo can walk you through them, provided you know the basic 
commands for using vo. When I got my mini, it had Lion, and I found the setup 
to not work well with my keyboard. However, I now believe that, had I an apple 
keyboard or a macbook, it would have worked well. So, if you did not get the 
official apple keyboard, you may run into problems (unless that was fixed in 
ML). Have you ever used vo before, or do you want some tips for basic usage so 
you can get things going?
On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:46 PM, agent086b  wrote:

> Hi all,
> just getting ready for when I purchase my iMac in the next week or sow.
> What do I need to do on it's arrival? I assume it comes with an administrator 
> account so I expect I will need to create a non admin one. Other than getting 
> it online is there anything else I will need to do? I will be purchasing it 
> directly from Apple as I don't have an Apple store in my town, so I don't 
> have anyone local to ask these questions.
> Thanks as always for any help.
> Max.
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Re: confused about cursor tracking in textEdit

2012-08-09 Thread John Sanfilippo

I have found that you actually have to interact with text before you issue your 
vo a command. Then vo will read from here down.

Isn't it strange that this is necessary even though you're reading or editing 
text, interacting with it all the time?


js


On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Hi all,
I was just sent a guide on Garageband and opened it with textedit. I read line 
by line for a bit until I found where I wanted to be, then hit vo-a to read 
from that point on. No matter what I do, though, vo-a starts reading the 
document from the beginning, not from where I stopped arrowing. I even tried 
vo-cmd-f4 to move vo to keyboard focus, and the f5 command to move keyboard to 
vo, but neither work. Is this a bug, or am I missing an obvious step? This 
seems to work in mail, the only other place I generally use vo-a, but in 
textEdit it always moves to the top of the document first. Any thoughts? Thanks.


Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: Problems with Extras Menu New Apps

Besides Dropbox, I have Growl, Hardware Growler, Soundflowerbed, and Boxcar. 
What does Trillian do. I could install it on my machine and test it for you, if 
you'd like.

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On 10 Aug 2012, at 1:44 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> That is correct, no menu comes up or pops down. I even had trouble
> getting Trillion to work. What have you installed on your menu extras
> bar that works
> 
> On Aug 9, 7:20 pm, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:
>> Hi Brian,
>> 
>> When you say that the menu extras don't work, do you mean that no menu comes 
>> up when you press VO-Space on a particular item? I've added a couple of 
>> things besides Dropbox to mine, and they all work perfectly.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
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>> On 10 Aug 2012, at 1:17 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hey all,
>> 
>>> Been trying to add some new apps to my mac, and I have noticed that
>>> anything I try and add that puts itself in the Menu Extras doesn't
>>> seem to work with VO. It could be that these apps do not work with
>>> Voiceover, or it could be that the Menus Extras just dones't work very
>>> well with VO. My dropbox works fine, but I tried to install Menu Pages
>>> for Facebook, got it successfully downloaded from the App store as it
>>> is in my app folder, but when I go to launch it, it just appears in
>>> the menu extras, and will tell me that Menu Pages for Facebook has no
>>> windows. I have tried installing other apps that send themselves to
>>> the Menus Extras all free Facebook related apps and anything that goes
>>> in to the menu extras just doesn't seem to work. Has anyone put
>>> anything successfully in to the menu extras outside of dropbox? Thanks
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Re: When I get the iMac

2012-08-09 Thread agent086b

Hi, I have only used VO on my iPhone. Thanks for any tips to get started 
on the Mac

Yes I will have the apple keyboard.
Max..

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: When I get the iMac
From: Alex Hall 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 21:50:42 -0400
There is some setup to go through. Fortunately, you need only hit 
cmd-f5 once the mac is booted and vo can walk you through them, 
provided you know the basic commands for using vo. When I got my mini, 
it had Lion, and I found the setup to not work well with my keyboard. 
However, I now believe that, had I an apple keyboard or a macbook, it 
would have worked well. So, if you did not get the official apple 
keyboard, you may run into problems (unless that was fixed in ML). 
Have you ever used vo before, or do you want some tips for basic usage 
so you can get things going?
On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:46 PM, agent086b > wrote:

Hi all,
just getting ready for when I purchase my iMac in the next week or sow.
What do I need to do on it's arrival? I assume it comes with an 
administrator account so I expect I will need to create a non admin 
one. Other than getting it online is there anything else I will need 
to do? I will be purchasing it directly from Apple as I don't have an 
Apple store in my town, so I don't have anyone local to ask these 
questions.

Thanks as always for any help.
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Re: confused about cursor tracking in textEdit

Hi Alex,

Are you interacting with the text area of the document before pressing VO-A? 
Reading from the cursor position to the end of a document is only possible if 
you interact with it.

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On 10 Aug 2012, at 3:32 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I was just sent a guide on Garageband and opened it with textedit. I read 
> line by line for a bit until I found where I wanted to be, then hit vo-a to 
> read from that point on. No matter what I do, though, vo-a starts reading the 
> document from the beginning, not from where I stopped arrowing. I even tried 
> vo-cmd-f4 to move vo to keyboard focus, and the f5 command to move keyboard 
> to vo, but neither work. Is this a bug, or am I missing an obvious step? This 
> seems to work in mail, the only other place I generally use vo-a, but in 
> textEdit it always moves to the top of the document first. Any thoughts? 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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Re: question about recording with mac

2012-08-09 Thread Ricardo Walker

Hi,

This sounds like a whole lot of work when you can just use Garageband.  Paste 
the audio track in in your GB project, press command option N and select real 
instrument from the dialog and press enter to create a real instrument track.  
So, if you press the Letter R for record, the track will start playing, and 
your real instrument track will start recording.  Start playing your guitar, 
and press space when your done.

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On Aug 9, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Here's the problem: I want to record my guitar along with a song playing on 
> the mac.
> Here's what I have:
> an amp going into the line-in port of the mac,
> the latest Soundflower release,
> an aggregate audio device set to use built-in input and soundflower,
> audacity, recordPad, and vlc for recording,
> vlc, quicktime (modern and v7 as recommended by Chris) for output (I also 
> have iTunes, but hate it).
> 
> So, given that, how can I do this? The way I see it, I need to record my 
> aggregate device in my recorder. The problem is piping the song I'm playing 
> with into soundflower, and still being able to hear it as it plays so I know 
> what I'm doing. Of course, I don't want to lose vo speech, so I can't just 
> redirect system audio to soundflower (besides, I'd lose the song then 
> anyway). Am I misunderstanding how this works? That is, will I in fact lose 
> audio I pipe to soundflower, or will it still play through the speakers 
> connected to my headphone jack? I'm using a Mac Mini, if that matters. Thanks 
> for any thoughts.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
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Re: When I get the iMac

2012-08-09 Thread Ricardo Walker

Nope.

There is really nothing to know especially.  Just command f5 toggle VO on/off. 
haha.

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On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:46 PM, agent086b  wrote:

> Hi all,
> just getting ready for when I purchase my iMac in the next week or sow.
> What do I need to do on it's arrival? I assume it comes with an administrator 
> account so I expect I will need to create a non admin one. Other than getting 
> it online is there anything else I will need to do? I will be purchasing it 
> directly from Apple as I don't have an Apple store in my town, so I don't 
> have anyone local to ask these questions.
> Thanks as always for any help.
> Max.
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Re: question about recording with mac

I tried exactly that on the advice from another list. The problem is that my 
instrument is not being recorded, or at least is not being played back when I 
play the song after doing a recording. Also, I pasted in my mp3, and it plays, 
but I can't find it in any of the tracks. I see a grand piano, my bass track, 
and a track called "audio 2". I got rid of grand piano as I didn't create it 
and don't need it, but what is audio 2, where is my mp3, and why is my bass not 
recording? I hear myself in my speakers (I have monitoring on) so I know the 
setup is physically working, but gb seems to not want to record it. I was sent 
a nice gb tutorial which you and others helped to create, but I still can't get 
this to work right. I know you're a gb expert, so hopefully you can shed light 
on this. Thanks!
On Aug 9, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> This sounds like a whole lot of work when you can just use Garageband.  Paste 
> the audio track in in your GB project, press command option N and select real 
> instrument from the dialog and press enter to create a real instrument track. 
>  So, if you press the Letter R for record, the track will start playing, and 
> your real instrument track will start recording.  Start playing your guitar, 
> and press space when your done.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Here's the problem: I want to record my guitar along with a song playing on 
>> the mac.
>> Here's what I have:
>> an amp going into the line-in port of the mac,
>> the latest Soundflower release,
>> an aggregate audio device set to use built-in input and soundflower,
>> audacity, recordPad, and vlc for recording,
>> vlc, quicktime (modern and v7 as recommended by Chris) for output (I also 
>> have iTunes, but hate it).
>> 
>> So, given that, how can I do this? The way I see it, I need to record my 
>> aggregate device in my recorder. The problem is piping the song I'm playing 
>> with into soundflower, and still being able to hear it as it plays so I know 
>> what I'm doing. Of course, I don't want to lose vo speech, so I can't just 
>> redirect system audio to soundflower (besides, I'd lose the song then 
>> anyway). Am I misunderstanding how this works? That is, will I in fact lose 
>> audio I pipe to soundflower, or will it still play through the speakers 
>> connected to my headphone jack? I'm using a Mac Mini, if that matters. 
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: When I get the iMac

That and the navigation keys. When I say "vo" below, I mean the vo keys, which 
are control and option. So, vo-right means to hold down control and option and 
press the right arrow.
Move to the next item in a dialog: vo-right
Move o the previous item in a dialog: vo-left
Interact (you may need to do this to enter text): vo-shift-down
Stop interacting (do this once you're done with whatever you interacted with): 
vo-shift-up
Start keyboard help (vo says the function of any vo command you type): vo-k
Exit keyboard help: escape

I think you'll find the keyboard help quite useful. Of course, if you get 
stuck, just email the list and we'll try to help you out. I'm sure someone can 
even do it over skype if necessary. That said, if you can rope a sighted person 
into spending a few minutes with you to make sure all goes well, you may have 
an easier time of it. I did that and was glad I did, but, again, I had that odd 
keyboard experience. Good luck.
On Aug 9, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Nope.
> 
> There is really nothing to know especially.  Just command f5 toggle VO 
> on/off. haha.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:46 PM, agent086b  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> just getting ready for when I purchase my iMac in the next week or sow.
>> What do I need to do on it's arrival? I assume it comes with an 
>> administrator account so I expect I will need to create a non admin one. 
>> Other than getting it online is there anything else I will need to do? I 
>> will be purchasing it directly from Apple as I don't have an Apple store in 
>> my town, so I don't have anyone local to ask these questions.
>> Thanks as always for any help.
>> Max.
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sort of figured out GarageBand

Hi all,
I think I sort of got GB down. I have no idea what changed, but things are 
working as Ricardo said they should now and I was able to export a song, with 
my bass track, as a standard mp3. Now, if I could just drop the original song a 
half step and re-record it so I can play it in G... can I do that, drop the 
imported mp3 a half step?


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Re: When I get the iMac

2012-08-09 Thread Harry Hogue

Back on Snow Leopard, Voiceover came on when I booted up my computer for the 
first time -- there was no need to even start it.  Perhaps it is different with 
Mountain Lion.  it even had a tutorial to walk you through the basics of using 
voiceOver, which I found very useful.  It was around a month before I felt 
truly at ease moving around, and I still find myself learning things.  That, 
however, was the same with Windows.  computers, you know.  :D

Harry

On Aug 9, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> That and the navigation keys. When I say "vo" below, I mean the vo keys, 
> which are control and option. So, vo-right means to hold down control and 
> option and press the right arrow.
> Move to the next item in a dialog: vo-right
> Move o the previous item in a dialog: vo-left
> Interact (you may need to do this to enter text): vo-shift-down
> Stop interacting (do this once you're done with whatever you interacted 
> with): vo-shift-up
> Start keyboard help (vo says the function of any vo command you type): vo-k
> Exit keyboard help: escape
> 
> I think you'll find the keyboard help quite useful. Of course, if you get 
> stuck, just email the list and we'll try to help you out. I'm sure someone 
> can even do it over skype if necessary. That said, if you can rope a sighted 
> person into spending a few minutes with you to make sure all goes well, you 
> may have an easier time of it. I did that and was glad I did, but, again, I 
> had that odd keyboard experience. Good luck.
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Nope.
>> 
>> There is really nothing to know especially.  Just command f5 toggle VO 
>> on/off. haha.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:46 PM, agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> just getting ready for when I purchase my iMac in the next week or sow.
>>> What do I need to do on it's arrival? I assume it comes with an 
>>> administrator account so I expect I will need to create a non admin one. 
>>> Other than getting it online is there anything else I will need to do? I 
>>> will be purchasing it directly from Apple as I don't have an Apple store in 
>>> my town, so I don't have anyone local to ask these questions.
>>> Thanks as always for any help.
>>> Max.
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sorry, one more GB question: amps