Re: Machine slowing down

2012-02-03 Thread Yuma Decaux
Yes Anne, that's what most users probably overlook. The restore all windows 
feature can betray all previous opened windows. 

Sometimes it happens that a particularly badly coded webpage would crash safari 
altogether, and unless you delete the com.apple.safari.plist or turn voice over 
off and command option q safari, yo will constantly have the busy signal 

Anyhow, great mention 

Yuma 



On 3/02/2012, at 8:07 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I regularly see messages from people complaining that their Macs are slowing 
> down since upgrading to Lion. One explanation could be that, by default, all 
> windows are reopened when an application is launched. Someone I know had over 
> 40 windows open in Pages and wondered why it took so long to launch.
> 
> You can change this behaviour in System Preferences, in the General pane. 
> Look for "Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps" and uncheck the 
> check box.
> 
> To find out how many windows are open in an application, press VO-F2-F2 for 
> the Window Chooser.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Re: very confused about installing applications

2012-02-03 Thread Scott Howell
He may not even see the .ap extension and that is why I explained the 
installation process as I did yesterday. I'd guess unless folks have changed 
the default on their machine they may not even realize apps have the .ap 
extension.

On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, Alex,
> 
> There are two ways to install files. When you browse within a disc image, you 
> will either find a file that says "installer package" or a .app file.
> 
> Here's how it works. Usually, you begin downloading the disc image. It is 
> mounted on your desktop when you open it. This does not mean you have 
> installed anything yet. You first have to go into the disc image and find out 
> whether you have an installer package or a .app file. If it's an installer 
> package, the process is similar to opening a Windows .exe file. If it's a 
> .app file, you will want to copy the .app over to your apps folder, so you 
> can find it in the future. You can run a .app from your disc image, but that 
> makes things very cluttered and hard to find.
> 
> HTh,
> Teresa
> 
> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
> 
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> I think it does have one, but cannot be sure. If not, where would I
>> find this .app file, and why would it not already be there? Also, why
>> do other applications (audacity, filezilla) never show up, even though
>> they were installed from dmg files?
>> 
>> On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> Hi, Alex,
>>> 
>>> I don't remember if Chrome has an installer. If an application doesn't have
>>> an installer with prompts, you will need to find the .app file and copy it
>>> over to your apps directory.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I am thoroughly confused. I have now installed Chrome twice, and both
 times it has disappeared from my applications folder and spotlight. I
 have also installed Filezilla, and have been able to find it via
 spotlight, but it is not in my applications folder. I installed
 Yofukurou, though, and that is in my applications folder (though I
 installed that via the app store, not a dmg). I'll be honest: the
 constant busy messages, overall lag, and disappearing apps have made
 me use Windows pretty much all the time, but if I could get this
 worked out it would be good. At least I could use something other than
 safari, and maybe try using the mac more...
 
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Re: very confused about installing applications

2012-02-03 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Quite true.  Forgot about that little detail.


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On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:32 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> He may not even see the .ap extension and that is why I explained the 
> installation process as I did yesterday. I'd guess unless folks have changed 
> the default on their machine they may not even realize apps have the .ap 
> extension.
> 
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Alex,
>> 
>> There are two ways to install files. When you browse within a disc image, 
>> you will either find a file that says "installer package" or a .app file.
>> 
>> Here's how it works. Usually, you begin downloading the disc image. It is 
>> mounted on your desktop when you open it. This does not mean you have 
>> installed anything yet. You first have to go into the disc image and find 
>> out whether you have an installer package or a .app file. If it's an 
>> installer package, the process is similar to opening a Windows .exe file. If 
>> it's a .app file, you will want to copy the .app over to your apps folder, 
>> so you can find it in the future. You can run a .app from your disc image, 
>> but that makes things very cluttered and hard to find.
>> 
>> HTh,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> I think it does have one, but cannot be sure. If not, where would I
>>> find this .app file, and why would it not already be there? Also, why
>>> do other applications (audacity, filezilla) never show up, even though
>>> they were installed from dmg files?
>>> 
>>> On 2/2/12, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
 Hi, Alex,
 
 I don't remember if Chrome has an installer. If an application doesn't have
 an installer with prompts, you will need to find the .app file and copy it
 over to your apps directory.
 
 HTH,
 Teresa
 
 "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
 
 On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> I am thoroughly confused. I have now installed Chrome twice, and both
> times it has disappeared from my applications folder and spotlight. I
> have also installed Filezilla, and have been able to find it via
> spotlight, but it is not in my applications folder. I installed
> Yofukurou, though, and that is in my applications folder (though I
> installed that via the app store, not a dmg). I'll be honest: the
> constant busy messages, overall lag, and disappearing apps have made
> me use Windows pretty much all the time, but if I could get this
> worked out it would be good. At least I could use something other than
> safari, and maybe try using the mac more...
> 
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10.7.3, yay or nay?

2012-02-03 Thread Chris Snyder
Hi folks,
I've been quite happily hanging out with Snow Leopard ever since I tried Lion 
10.7 when it first came out. I'm wondering if you think this latest iteration 
of Lion is worth making the switch. What say you?

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Re: [Bulk] 10.7.3, yay or nay?

2012-02-03 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Since there are security updates in this one, I'd say yes.


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On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:

> Hi folks,
> I've been quite happily hanging out with Snow Leopard ever since I tried Lion 
> 10.7 when it first came out. I'm wondering if you think this latest iteration 
> of Lion is worth making the switch. What say you?
> 
> Friendly,
> Chris
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time machine?

2012-02-03 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I am always seeing people on here and in other places sayi9ng, "make
sure you keep a Time Machine backup" or similar things. I know time
machine is a backup/recovery tool for the mac, but I am not sure
beyond that.
1. Will any external hard drive work?
2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a
partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by
Windows computers?
3. Is time machine fully accessible?
4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off
an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I
just browse to that file and copy it like normal?
5. Is anything not backed up?
6. If I had to restore, and I had newer files than in the backup, what
happens? In other words, is there a way to restore only system folders
so that files modified since the backup are not overwritten with older
versions?
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Re: VO or Chormevox with Google Chrome?

2012-02-03 Thread Teresa Cochran
How do you normally access Chrome preferences and the address bar with 
chromevox? Or do you turn on VO to do this?

Teresa

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On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Generally, I use chromevox. At this point, voiceover is unable to see list 
> boxes on web pages. Also, there are times where voiceover is no longer able 
> to click on items on the page. On the other hand, chromevox is more likely to 
> crash, fortunately you can have both and use what works best for you.
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> Well, I'm starting to wonder of Chromevox has advantages over VO in Google 
>> Chrome. I think there are pluses and minuses in both cases. For instance, 
>> Chromevox doesn't seem to have keystrokes for going into the browser 
>> preferences and navigating anything other than the content of a webpage. 
>> It's an interesting project, though, and a promising start on a 
>> screen-reader to go along with the Chrome OS.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> "On the other hand, there are different fingers."
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Re: time machine?

2012-02-03 Thread Scott Howell
Alex answers follow below:

On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 1. Will any external hard drive work?
ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should ensure you 
have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having a drive 
that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing up. THis is 
not a requirement, but a consideration.


> 2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a
> partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by
> Windows computers?

I do not recall whether it matters, but the TIme Machine utility takes care of 
this if I recall correctly. You could split the drive into multiple partitions 
and choose where you want TIme Machine to place the backups.

> 3. Is time machine fully accessible?
I have not had any problems using TIme Machine.


> 4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off
> an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I
> just browse to that file and copy it like normal?
Yes.

> 5. Is anything not backed up?

The only files that come to mind which are not backed up are those that have no 
impact on operation of your Mac. In other words these are files you do not have 
direct access to and are only used by the current instance of the OS. So if you 
restored the entire machine or cloned the drive you would not want these files.

> 6. If I had to restore, and I had newer files than in the backup, what
> happens? In other words, is there a way to restore only system folders
> so that files modified since the backup are not overwritten with older
> versions?
Interesting question since I'm not sure how this condition  would occur really. 
I'm trying to invision a scenario  that might apply in this case.

hth,


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Re: time machine?

2012-02-03 Thread Alex Hall
Thanks for the responses. Regarding my last question:
1. You create a novel in Text Edit, saving it as a single document.
2. You back up your mac, which, of course, backs up your novel in the
process. Let us say this was done on January 1.
3. You come back to the novel a week later, making extensive
modifications. Unfortunately, your mac goes crazy and you restore from
your January 1 backup.
What happens to your novel? Do you retain the January 8 version, or is
that overwritten with the January 1 version? I have Carbonite on
Windows, but before I had that I tended to save to my hard drive and
make backups every month or so. In the above example, then, I would
not have backed up every itteration of the novel, and would probably
have done a backup a few weeks later. The restore, then, would happen
between my backups, so what would happen to the file in question? I
hope that makes sense.

On 2/3/12, Scott Howell  wrote:
> Alex answers follow below:
>
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 1. Will any external hard drive work?
> ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should ensure you
> have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having a
> drive that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing up.
> THis is not a requirement, but a consideration.
>
>
>> 2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a
>> partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by
>> Windows computers?
>
> I do not recall whether it matters, but the TIme Machine utility takes care
> of this if I recall correctly. You could split the drive into multiple
> partitions and choose where you want TIme Machine to place the backups.
>
>> 3. Is time machine fully accessible?
> I have not had any problems using TIme Machine.
>
>
>> 4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off
>> an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I
>> just browse to that file and copy it like normal?
> Yes.
>
>> 5. Is anything not backed up?
>
> The only files that come to mind which are not backed up are those that have
> no impact on operation of your Mac. In other words these are files you do
> not have direct access to and are only used by the current instance of the
> OS. So if you restored the entire machine or cloned the drive you would not
> want these files.
>
>> 6. If I had to restore, and I had newer files than in the backup, what
>> happens? In other words, is there a way to restore only system folders
>> so that files modified since the backup are not overwritten with older
>> versions?
> Interesting question since I'm not sure how this condition  would occur
> really. I'm trying to invision a scenario  that might apply in this case.
>
> hth,
>
>
>> Thanks in advance.
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Re: [Bulk] 10.7.3, yay or nay?

2012-02-03 Thread Chris Snyder
Well, Snowy got a security update as well. But really, security updates aside, 
have they fixed the Safari busy problems? Here's my concern. SL 10.6.8 is 
smooth, relatively glitch free, and treats my March 2011 Macbook Pro very well. 
When I tried the first version of Lion, I was not happy with the performance. 
I'm wondering if the latest version has dealt with any of the issues that were 
discussed on this list at that time. I remember the first few versions of SL 
had noticeable trouble as well, so I'm curious if you think 10.7.3 is as stable 
and useful as 10.6.3 was when it was released. I also seem to remember that it 
wasn't until around 10.6.4 that things really smoothed out.

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On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:17 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Since there are security updates in this one, I'd say yes.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I've been quite happily hanging out with Snow Leopard ever since I tried 
>> Lion 10.7 when it first came out. I'm wondering if you think this latest 
>> iteration of Lion is worth making the switch. What say you?
>> 
>> Friendly,
>> Chris
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Re: time machine?

2012-02-03 Thread agent086b

Hi,
I am sure you already know, you can use Carbonite on your Mac.
Max.

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Subject: Re: time machine?
From: Alex Hall 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:54:11 -0500

Thanks for the responses. Regarding my last question:
1. You create a novel in Text Edit, saving it as a single document.
2. You back up your mac, which, of course, backs up your novel in the
process. Let us say this was done on January 1.
3. You come back to the novel a week later, making extensive
modifications. Unfortunately, your mac goes crazy and you restore from
your January 1 backup.
What happens to your novel? Do you retain the January 8 version, or is
that overwritten with the January 1 version? I have Carbonite on
Windows, but before I had that I tended to save to my hard drive and
make backups every month or so. In the above example, then, I would
not have backed up every itteration of the novel, and would probably
have done a backup a few weeks later. The restore, then, would happen
between my backups, so what would happen to the file in question? I
hope that makes sense.

On 2/3/12, Scott Howell  wrote:

Alex answers follow below:

On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

1. Will any external hard drive work?

ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should ensure you
have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having a
drive that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing up.
THis is not a requirement, but a consideration.



2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a
partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by
Windows computers?

I do not recall whether it matters, but the TIme Machine utility takes care
of this if I recall correctly. You could split the drive into multiple
partitions and choose where you want TIme Machine to place the backups.


3. Is time machine fully accessible?

I have not had any problems using TIme Machine.



4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off
an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I
just browse to that file and copy it like normal?

Yes.


5. Is anything not backed up?

The only files that come to mind which are not backed up are those that have
no impact on operation of your Mac. In other words these are files you do
not have direct access to and are only used by the current instance of the
OS. So if you restored the entire machine or cloned the drive you would not
want these files.


6. If I had to restore, and I had newer files than in the backup, what
happens? In other words, is there a way to restore only system folders
so that files modified since the backup are not overwritten with older
versions?

Interesting question since I'm not sure how this condition  would occur
really. I'm trying to invision a scenario  that might apply in this case.

hth,



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Re: time machine?

2012-02-03 Thread Alex Hall
I know, but since I primarily use Windows for now, I pay for my
Windows carbonite subscription. As I understand it, even though the
Mini is one computer, I would have to pay again to back up my mac os
partition. Until I use the mac more and start leaving my files there,
I will just use time machine to keep my apps and settings up to date.
Ideally, there would be some magical place from which both mac and
windows could read and to which they could write in perfect harmony,
but the file system war seems to preclude any such dream from ever
becoming a reality. Too bad, since I could just back up said magical
land with carbonite and let local backups store the less critical
settings and apps.

On 2/3/12, agent086b  wrote:
> Hi,
> I am sure you already know, you can use Carbonite on your Mac.
> Max.
>
>  Original Message  
> Subject: Re: time machine?
> From: Alex Hall 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:54:11 -0500
>> Thanks for the responses. Regarding my last question:
>> 1. You create a novel in Text Edit, saving it as a single document.
>> 2. You back up your mac, which, of course, backs up your novel in the
>> process. Let us say this was done on January 1.
>> 3. You come back to the novel a week later, making extensive
>> modifications. Unfortunately, your mac goes crazy and you restore from
>> your January 1 backup.
>> What happens to your novel? Do you retain the January 8 version, or is
>> that overwritten with the January 1 version? I have Carbonite on
>> Windows, but before I had that I tended to save to my hard drive and
>> make backups every month or so. In the above example, then, I would
>> not have backed up every itteration of the novel, and would probably
>> have done a backup a few weeks later. The restore, then, would happen
>> between my backups, so what would happen to the file in question? I
>> hope that makes sense.
>>
>> On 2/3/12, Scott Howell  wrote:
>>> Alex answers follow below:
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 1. Will any external hard drive work?
>>> ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should ensure
>>> you
>>> have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having a
>>> drive that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing
>>> up.
>>> THis is not a requirement, but a consideration.
>>>
>>>
 2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a
 partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by
 Windows computers?
>>> I do not recall whether it matters, but the TIme Machine utility takes
>>> care
>>> of this if I recall correctly. You could split the drive into multiple
>>> partitions and choose where you want TIme Machine to place the backups.
>>>
 3. Is time machine fully accessible?
>>> I have not had any problems using TIme Machine.
>>>
>>>
 4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off
 an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I
 just browse to that file and copy it like normal?
>>> Yes.
>>>
 5. Is anything not backed up?
>>> The only files that come to mind which are not backed up are those that
>>> have
>>> no impact on operation of your Mac. In other words these are files you do
>>> not have direct access to and are only used by the current instance of
>>> the
>>> OS. So if you restored the entire machine or cloned the drive you would
>>> not
>>> want these files.
>>>
 6. If I had to restore, and I had newer files than in the backup, what
 happens? In other words, is there a way to restore only system folders
 so that files modified since the backup are not overwritten with older
 versions?
>>> Interesting question since I'm not sure how this condition  would occur
>>> really. I'm trying to invision a scenario  that might apply in this case.
>>>
>>> hth,
>>>
>>>
 Thanks in advance.
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time machine?

2012-02-03 Thread Kliphton A . M-SR
Okay, finally took the plunge and am now using time machine.  I know how to 
turn manual and automatic backups on and off, but how do I get to other 
backups?  I want to get rid of the ones it already did because I don't want it 
using up 3TB of hard disc space.  So if someone could tell me how to get to the 
old TM's that would be great.  Thanks.

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Re: time machine?

2012-02-03 Thread Chris Blouch

To elaborate on #1 and #2:

You can use any external hard drive and TimeMachine will keep adding 
incremental backups until the drive is full and then delete the oldest 
one first. Actually it's a little more elaborate than that. From Wikipedia:


Time Machine saves hourly backups for the past 24 hours, daily backups 
for the past month, and weekly backups for everything older than a month 
until the volume runs out of space. At that point, Time Machine deletes 
the oldest weekly backup.


You don't want to share this drive with TimeMachine for anything else 
because Time Machine eventually consumes all available space, like a big 
black hole :)


So along those lines, time machine is a regular Mac formatted disk so 
you could set up just a partition for it to operate on and use the rest 
of the drive space for something else. I actually have a second Mac as 
my time machine backup drive. I have a 2TB drive in the remote machine 
with a 1TB partition. I then share that with file sharing and then mount 
that on my laptop and point to the network volume with Time machine. 
When TimeMachine kicks off for the hourly backup it just mounts up that 
drive and does its thing. When I'm away from my desk time machine just 
fails but will try again when I'm back.


CB

On 2/3/12 3:23 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Alex answers follow below:

On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

1. Will any external hard drive work?

ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should ensure you 
have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having a drive 
that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing up. THis is 
not a requirement, but a consideration.



2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a
partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by
Windows computers?

I do not recall whether it matters, but the TIme Machine utility takes care of 
this if I recall correctly. You could split the drive into multiple partitions 
and choose where you want TIme Machine to place the backups.


3. Is time machine fully accessible?

I have not had any problems using TIme Machine.



4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off
an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I
just browse to that file and copy it like normal?

Yes.


5. Is anything not backed up?

The only files that come to mind which are not backed up are those that have no 
impact on operation of your Mac. In other words these are files you do not have 
direct access to and are only used by the current instance of the OS. So if you 
restored the entire machine or cloned the drive you would not want these files.


6. If I had to restore, and I had newer files than in the backup, what
happens? In other words, is there a way to restore only system folders
so that files modified since the backup are not overwritten with older
versions?

Interesting question since I'm not sure how this condition  would occur really. 
I'm trying to invision a scenario  that might apply in this case.

hth,



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Re: time machine?

2012-02-03 Thread Alex Hall
Good to know, I thought the backup was a single, constantly updated
copy of the drive. I now see why one needs (or should have) twice the
space as the drive being backed up.

On 2/3/12, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> To elaborate on #1 and #2:
>
> You can use any external hard drive and TimeMachine will keep adding
> incremental backups until the drive is full and then delete the oldest
> one first. Actually it's a little more elaborate than that. From Wikipedia:
>
> Time Machine saves hourly backups for the past 24 hours, daily backups
> for the past month, and weekly backups for everything older than a month
> until the volume runs out of space. At that point, Time Machine deletes
> the oldest weekly backup.
>
> You don't want to share this drive with TimeMachine for anything else
> because Time Machine eventually consumes all available space, like a big
> black hole :)
>
> So along those lines, time machine is a regular Mac formatted disk so
> you could set up just a partition for it to operate on and use the rest
> of the drive space for something else. I actually have a second Mac as
> my time machine backup drive. I have a 2TB drive in the remote machine
> with a 1TB partition. I then share that with file sharing and then mount
> that on my laptop and point to the network volume with Time machine.
> When TimeMachine kicks off for the hourly backup it just mounts up that
> drive and does its thing. When I'm away from my desk time machine just
> fails but will try again when I'm back.
>
> CB
>
> On 2/3/12 3:23 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> Alex answers follow below:
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 1. Will any external hard drive work?
>> ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should ensure
>> you have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having
>> a drive that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing
>> up. THis is not a requirement, but a consideration.
>>
>>
>>> 2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a
>>> partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by
>>> Windows computers?
>> I do not recall whether it matters, but the TIme Machine utility takes
>> care of this if I recall correctly. You could split the drive into
>> multiple partitions and choose where you want TIme Machine to place the
>> backups.
>>
>>> 3. Is time machine fully accessible?
>> I have not had any problems using TIme Machine.
>>
>>
>>> 4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off
>>> an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I
>>> just browse to that file and copy it like normal?
>> Yes.
>>
>>> 5. Is anything not backed up?
>> The only files that come to mind which are not backed up are those that
>> have no impact on operation of your Mac. In other words these are files
>> you do not have direct access to and are only used by the current instance
>> of the OS. So if you restored the entire machine or cloned the drive you
>> would not want these files.
>>
>>> 6. If I had to restore, and I had newer files than in the backup, what
>>> happens? In other words, is there a way to restore only system folders
>>> so that files modified since the backup are not overwritten with older
>>> versions?
>> Interesting question since I'm not sure how this condition  would occur
>> really. I'm trying to invision a scenario  that might apply in this case.
>>
>> hth,
>>
>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
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Re: [Bulk] 10.7.3, yay or nay?

2012-02-03 Thread Teresa Cochran
There's pluses and minuses. There's still Safari busying itself, but there's 
also the fact that VO hasn't reset itself once since I got Lion. I guess one 
picks one's nits, then? :)

Teresa

"We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos

On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:

> Well, Snowy got a security update as well. But really, security updates 
> aside, have they fixed the Safari busy problems? Here's my concern. SL 10.6.8 
> is smooth, relatively glitch free, and treats my March 2011 Macbook Pro very 
> well. When I tried the first version of Lion, I was not happy with the 
> performance. I'm wondering if the latest version has dealt with any of the 
> issues that were discussed on this list at that time. I remember the first 
> few versions of SL had noticeable trouble as well, so I'm curious if you 
> think 10.7.3 is as stable and useful as 10.6.3 was when it was released. I 
> also seem to remember that it wasn't until around 10.6.4 that things really 
> smoothed out.
> 
> Friendly,
> Chris
> 
> --
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:17 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Since there are security updates in this one, I'd say yes.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I've been quite happily hanging out with Snow Leopard ever since I tried 
>>> Lion 10.7 when it first came out. I'm wondering if you think this latest 
>>> iteration of Lion is worth making the switch. What say you?
>>> 
>>> Friendly,
>>> Chris
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Mysterious Contact Location?

2012-02-03 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

I'm trying to sync my contacts on Icloud from my Mac. In my address book, I 
only find 24 contacts listed under ICloud. If I try some others in a mail 
message, they are entered automatically, but don't appear in my address book. I 
know I have more than the 24 listed in ICloud. How can I find these other 
contacts on my computer in order to export them?

Thanks,
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Re: [Bulk] 10.7.3, yay or nay?

2012-02-03 Thread Chris Snyder
Does anyone know if the address book issues and the interacting issues have 
been fixed?

Friendly,
Chris

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On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> There's pluses and minuses. There's still Safari busying itself, but there's 
> also the fact that VO hasn't reset itself once since I got Lion. I guess one 
> picks one's nits, then? :)
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
> 
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:
> 
>> Well, Snowy got a security update as well. But really, security updates 
>> aside, have they fixed the Safari busy problems? Here's my concern. SL 
>> 10.6.8 is smooth, relatively glitch free, and treats my March 2011 Macbook 
>> Pro very well. When I tried the first version of Lion, I was not happy with 
>> the performance. I'm wondering if the latest version has dealt with any of 
>> the issues that were discussed on this list at that time. I remember the 
>> first few versions of SL had noticeable trouble as well, so I'm curious if 
>> you think 10.7.3 is as stable and useful as 10.6.3 was when it was released. 
>> I also seem to remember that it wasn't until around 10.6.4 that things 
>> really smoothed out.
>> 
>> Friendly,
>> Chris
>> 
>> --
>> I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:17 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Since there are security updates in this one, I'd say yes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:
>>> 
 Hi folks,
 I've been quite happily hanging out with Snow Leopard ever since I tried 
 Lion 10.7 when it first came out. I'm wondering if you think this latest 
 iteration of Lion is worth making the switch. What say you?
 
 Friendly,
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Re: Mail issues.

2012-02-03 Thread Jessica
Ok question: I have pop inabled on my pc, and last time I checked, that was 
what was enabled on the web server as well.  That's generally what I end up 
using anyhow, but when I tried to connect either which way now, when I tell it 
to connect via pop, it wants me to varify some sort of certificate, and refuses 
to download my messages, but when I tell it to connect via imap, after I've 
deleted the acount and readded it, it just sits there and refuses to acount.
  I'd really prefer to use pop, considering the fact that first of all, I don't 
plan on reading my messages multiple times, from multiple sources, and second, 
the first time I did set the acount up via imap, it downloaded months worth of 
mail that refused to delete and slowed my system down.  Any advice?
  - Original Message - 
  From: M. Taylor 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:08 PM
  Subject: RE: Mail issues.


  Hello Jessica, 

   

  I empathize with your  frustration in setting up your gMail account.  

   

  In my opinion, there is absolutely no reason why you cannot enjoy using your 
Mac with gMail services.  

   

  I'll tell you right from the start that troubleshooting mail account setup 
issues can be daunting so you may not get as many replies as you hope because 
there are so many ways one can get messed up in the process but I will list 
just a few things to keep in mind that may help you resolve your problem, OK?

   

  1.

  Using the gMail web interface, make sure you have iMap enabled.  

   

  2.

  Using the gMail web interface, I strongly recommend that you read the Google 
help section for how to setup iMap on a computer.  Google has a very 
comprehensive, albeit lengthy, tutorial that I found extremely useful, many 
moons ago when I was learning how to do such things.

   

  Now on your Mac:

   

  3.

  In the Mac Mail Preferences area of which I am certain you are now well 
acquainted (Smile),  it is very often necessary to enter the password for both 
the incoming and outgoing/SMTP settings, separately, even though, in most 
cases, the password will be the same for both.

   

  4.

  In the security section of the process, be sure to select SSL for both the 
incoming and outgoing protocols.  

   

  Jessica, in some rare instances that I have encountered, the type of security 
needed is defined by the Internet Service Provider.  For example, Dish Network. 
 In such an instance, it is necessary to use a different type of security than 
the normal SSL.  This is probably not the case for you but I mention it in 
order to relay that sometimes, even when you do everything right, things can 
still go wrong.  

   

  Good Luck,

   

  Mark

   

   

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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Mail issues.

   

  I've just tried for the um-teenth time, to set up my gmail acount on my 
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open it.

I'm only going to guess it's connected, sense the option to take acounts on 
line is dimmed, so I don't understand why it would be telling me this, however 
it refuses to download my mail no matter how many times I've removed and re-set 
up the sount, and this is really getting on my last nerve.

I really don't want to switch providers, because everyone I know knows this 
address, and has for years, and sense I've had several providers that I've been 
dissatisfied with and have no reason to change aside from the mac doesn't 
completely seem to get along with it, than I don't see any other reason to 
leave them.

If there's some sort of a work-around, or if there could've been something 
I may have missed, could someone please share that?

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income? Most likely, the answer is "yes," so if that is the case then come 
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Re: time machine?

2012-02-03 Thread Scott Howell
Alex,

I'm not so sure you could not have your windows and Mac data backed up to the 
same location. Of course it would require a lot of trickery, but nothing is 
necessarily impossible. You could possibly pull it off with a well crafted 
APple script on the Mac side.

On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> I know, but since I primarily use Windows for now, I pay for my
> Windows carbonite subscription. As I understand it, even though the
> Mini is one computer, I would have to pay again to back up my mac os
> partition. Until I use the mac more and start leaving my files there,
> I will just use time machine to keep my apps and settings up to date.
> Ideally, there would be some magical place from which both mac and
> windows could read and to which they could write in perfect harmony,
> but the file system war seems to preclude any such dream from ever
> becoming a reality. Too bad, since I could just back up said magical
> land with carbonite and let local backups store the less critical
> settings and apps.
> 
> On 2/3/12, agent086b  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am sure you already know, you can use Carbonite on your Mac.
>> Max.
>> 
>>  Original Message  
>> Subject: Re: time machine?
>> From: Alex Hall 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:54:11 -0500
>>> Thanks for the responses. Regarding my last question:
>>> 1. You create a novel in Text Edit, saving it as a single document.
>>> 2. You back up your mac, which, of course, backs up your novel in the
>>> process. Let us say this was done on January 1.
>>> 3. You come back to the novel a week later, making extensive
>>> modifications. Unfortunately, your mac goes crazy and you restore from
>>> your January 1 backup.
>>> What happens to your novel? Do you retain the January 8 version, or is
>>> that overwritten with the January 1 version? I have Carbonite on
>>> Windows, but before I had that I tended to save to my hard drive and
>>> make backups every month or so. In the above example, then, I would
>>> not have backed up every itteration of the novel, and would probably
>>> have done a backup a few weeks later. The restore, then, would happen
>>> between my backups, so what would happen to the file in question? I
>>> hope that makes sense.
>>> 
>>> On 2/3/12, Scott Howell  wrote:
 Alex answers follow below:
 
 On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 1. Will any external hard drive work?
 ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should ensure
 you
 have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having a
 drive that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing
 up.
 THis is not a requirement, but a consideration.
 
 
> 2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a
> partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by
> Windows computers?
 I do not recall whether it matters, but the TIme Machine utility takes
 care
 of this if I recall correctly. You could split the drive into multiple
 partitions and choose where you want TIme Machine to place the backups.
 
> 3. Is time machine fully accessible?
 I have not had any problems using TIme Machine.
 
 
> 4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off
> an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I
> just browse to that file and copy it like normal?
 Yes.
 
> 5. Is anything not backed up?
 The only files that come to mind which are not backed up are those that
 have
 no impact on operation of your Mac. In other words these are files you do
 not have direct access to and are only used by the current instance of
 the
 OS. So if you restored the entire machine or cloned the drive you would
 not
 want these files.
 
> 6. If I had to restore, and I had newer files than in the backup, what
> happens? In other words, is there a way to restore only system folders
> so that files modified since the backup are not overwritten with older
> versions?
 Interesting question since I'm not sure how this condition  would occur
 really. I'm trying to invision a scenario  that might apply in this case.
 
 hth,
 
 
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: time machine?

2012-02-03 Thread Scott Howell
Alex,

First of all you would have to initiate the restoration process. If you are 
working on a document of such importance you would hopefully not leave it just 
to TIme Machine. Chris gave a much more involved description which was very 
useful and I am sure it helped. You would always be wise to put something of 
great importance on a flash drive or some other storage media that you could 
lock away in a safe location or at least have it elsewhere.
I use TIme Machine for all the Macs here, but I also have two additional copies 
of my data and both live in a safe. Ideally I would also add an off-sight plan 
to the mix and I am checking into this. I of course want to find a service that 
would let me backup a couple of machines perhaps without bankrupting me in the 
process. :)
Of course one thing I did not add to the conversation is the fact you can 
exclude certain things from your TIme Machine backup and I assume this is also 
possible with something like Carbonite or any of these other backup solutions. 
In this way you can keep only the really critical stuff backed up.

On Feb 3, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> Thanks for the responses. Regarding my last question:
> 1. You create a novel in Text Edit, saving it as a single document.
> 2. You back up your mac, which, of course, backs up your novel in the
> process. Let us say this was done on January 1.
> 3. You come back to the novel a week later, making extensive
> modifications. Unfortunately, your mac goes crazy and you restore from
> your January 1 backup.
> What happens to your novel? Do you retain the January 8 version, or is
> that overwritten with the January 1 version? I have Carbonite on
> Windows, but before I had that I tended to save to my hard drive and
> make backups every month or so. In the above example, then, I would
> not have backed up every itteration of the novel, and would probably
> have done a backup a few weeks later. The restore, then, would happen
> between my backups, so what would happen to the file in question? I
> hope that makes sense.
> 
> On 2/3/12, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> Alex answers follow below:
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 1. Will any external hard drive work?
>> ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should ensure you
>> have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having a
>> drive that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing up.
>> THis is not a requirement, but a consideration.
>> 
>> 
>>> 2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a
>>> partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by
>>> Windows computers?
>> 
>> I do not recall whether it matters, but the TIme Machine utility takes care
>> of this if I recall correctly. You could split the drive into multiple
>> partitions and choose where you want TIme Machine to place the backups.
>> 
>>> 3. Is time machine fully accessible?
>> I have not had any problems using TIme Machine.
>> 
>> 
>>> 4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off
>>> an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I
>>> just browse to that file and copy it like normal?
>> Yes.
>> 
>>> 5. Is anything not backed up?
>> 
>> The only files that come to mind which are not backed up are those that have
>> no impact on operation of your Mac. In other words these are files you do
>> not have direct access to and are only used by the current instance of the
>> OS. So if you restored the entire machine or cloned the drive you would not
>> want these files.
>> 
>>> 6. If I had to restore, and I had newer files than in the backup, what
>>> happens? In other words, is there a way to restore only system folders
>>> so that files modified since the backup are not overwritten with older
>>> versions?
>> Interesting question since I'm not sure how this condition  would occur
>> really. I'm trying to invision a scenario  that might apply in this case.
>> 
>> hth,
>> 
>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
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Re: time machine?

2012-02-03 Thread Chris Blouch
While I haven't done it I know that there are settings on VMWare to 
share the documents folder between your Mac and Virtual windows 
instance. That would be a nice way to get your windows documents backed 
up, although it wouldn't help with the rest of your Windows setup. 
Normally you don't want to have the virtual machine image backed up by 
time machine because it is a giant monolithic file. So one little change 
made under Windows and the entire multi-gigabyte disk image is flagged 
for backing up again. Possible if you are on a local fast big time 
machine drive, but still kind of a waste.


CB

On 2/3/12 8:51 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Alex,

I'm not so sure you could not have your windows and Mac data backed up to the 
same location. Of course it would require a lot of trickery, but nothing is 
necessarily impossible. You could possibly pull it off with a well crafted 
APple script on the Mac side.

On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Alex Hall wrote:


I know, but since I primarily use Windows for now, I pay for my
Windows carbonite subscription. As I understand it, even though the
Mini is one computer, I would have to pay again to back up my mac os
partition. Until I use the mac more and start leaving my files there,
I will just use time machine to keep my apps and settings up to date.
Ideally, there would be some magical place from which both mac and
windows could read and to which they could write in perfect harmony,
but the file system war seems to preclude any such dream from ever
becoming a reality. Too bad, since I could just back up said magical
land with carbonite and let local backups store the less critical
settings and apps.

On 2/3/12, agent086b  wrote:

Hi,
I am sure you already know, you can use Carbonite on your Mac.
Max.

 Original Message  
Subject: Re: time machine?
From: Alex Hall
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:54:11 -0500

Thanks for the responses. Regarding my last question:
1. You create a novel in Text Edit, saving it as a single document.
2. You back up your mac, which, of course, backs up your novel in the
process. Let us say this was done on January 1.
3. You come back to the novel a week later, making extensive
modifications. Unfortunately, your mac goes crazy and you restore from
your January 1 backup.
What happens to your novel? Do you retain the January 8 version, or is
that overwritten with the January 1 version? I have Carbonite on
Windows, but before I had that I tended to save to my hard drive and
make backups every month or so. In the above example, then, I would
not have backed up every itteration of the novel, and would probably
have done a backup a few weeks later. The restore, then, would happen
between my backups, so what would happen to the file in question? I
hope that makes sense.

On 2/3/12, Scott Howell   wrote:

Alex answers follow below:

On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

1. Will any external hard drive work?

ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should ensure
you
have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having a
drive that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing
up.
THis is not a requirement, but a consideration.



2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a
partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by
Windows computers?

I do not recall whether it matters, but the TIme Machine utility takes
care
of this if I recall correctly. You could split the drive into multiple
partitions and choose where you want TIme Machine to place the backups.


3. Is time machine fully accessible?

I have not had any problems using TIme Machine.



4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off
an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I
just browse to that file and copy it like normal?

Yes.


5. Is anything not backed up?

The only files that come to mind which are not backed up are those that
have
no impact on operation of your Mac. In other words these are files you do
not have direct access to and are only used by the current instance of
the
OS. So if you restored the entire machine or cloned the drive you would
not
want these files.


6. If I had to restore, and I had newer files than in the backup, what
happens? In other words, is there a way to restore only system folders
so that files modified since the backup are not overwritten with older
versions?

Interesting question since I'm not sure how this condition  would occur
really. I'm trying to invision a scenario  that might apply in this case.

hth,



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Re: [Bulk] 10.7.3, yay or nay?

2012-02-03 Thread Ricardo Walker
interacting issues?  What issues are those?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:

> Does anyone know if the address book issues and the interacting issues have 
> been fixed?
> 
> Friendly,
> Chris
> 
> --
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> There's pluses and minuses. There's still Safari busying itself, but there's 
>> also the fact that VO hasn't reset itself once since I got Lion. I guess one 
>> picks one's nits, then? :)
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, Snowy got a security update as well. But really, security updates 
>>> aside, have they fixed the Safari busy problems? Here's my concern. SL 
>>> 10.6.8 is smooth, relatively glitch free, and treats my March 2011 Macbook 
>>> Pro very well. When I tried the first version of Lion, I was not happy with 
>>> the performance. I'm wondering if the latest version has dealt with any of 
>>> the issues that were discussed on this list at that time. I remember the 
>>> first few versions of SL had noticeable trouble as well, so I'm curious if 
>>> you think 10.7.3 is as stable and useful as 10.6.3 was when it was 
>>> released. I also seem to remember that it wasn't until around 10.6.4 that 
>>> things really smoothed out.
>>> 
>>> Friendly,
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:17 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> 
 Since there are security updates in this one, I'd say yes.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:
 
> Hi folks,
> I've been quite happily hanging out with Snow Leopard ever since I tried 
> Lion 10.7 when it first came out. I'm wondering if you think this latest 
> iteration of Lion is worth making the switch. What say you?
> 
> Friendly,
> Chris
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Re: time machine?

2012-02-03 Thread Alex Hall
I use bootcamp, so that isn't a problem; mac and windows are on
separate partitions. True, though, things like disk images are bad
backup candidates, especially on local storage!

On 2/3/12, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> While I haven't done it I know that there are settings on VMWare to
> share the documents folder between your Mac and Virtual windows
> instance. That would be a nice way to get your windows documents backed
> up, although it wouldn't help with the rest of your Windows setup.
> Normally you don't want to have the virtual machine image backed up by
> time machine because it is a giant monolithic file. So one little change
> made under Windows and the entire multi-gigabyte disk image is flagged
> for backing up again. Possible if you are on a local fast big time
> machine drive, but still kind of a waste.
>
> CB
>
> On 2/3/12 8:51 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> Alex,
>>
>> I'm not so sure you could not have your windows and Mac data backed up to
>> the same location. Of course it would require a lot of trickery, but
>> nothing is necessarily impossible. You could possibly pull it off with a
>> well crafted APple script on the Mac side.
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>
>>> I know, but since I primarily use Windows for now, I pay for my
>>> Windows carbonite subscription. As I understand it, even though the
>>> Mini is one computer, I would have to pay again to back up my mac os
>>> partition. Until I use the mac more and start leaving my files there,
>>> I will just use time machine to keep my apps and settings up to date.
>>> Ideally, there would be some magical place from which both mac and
>>> windows could read and to which they could write in perfect harmony,
>>> but the file system war seems to preclude any such dream from ever
>>> becoming a reality. Too bad, since I could just back up said magical
>>> land with carbonite and let local backups store the less critical
>>> settings and apps.
>>>
>>> On 2/3/12, agent086b  wrote:
 Hi,
 I am sure you already know, you can use Carbonite on your Mac.
 Max.

  Original Message  
 Subject: Re: time machine?
 From: Alex Hall
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:54:11 -0500
> Thanks for the responses. Regarding my last question:
> 1. You create a novel in Text Edit, saving it as a single document.
> 2. You back up your mac, which, of course, backs up your novel in the
> process. Let us say this was done on January 1.
> 3. You come back to the novel a week later, making extensive
> modifications. Unfortunately, your mac goes crazy and you restore from
> your January 1 backup.
> What happens to your novel? Do you retain the January 8 version, or is
> that overwritten with the January 1 version? I have Carbonite on
> Windows, but before I had that I tended to save to my hard drive and
> make backups every month or so. In the above example, then, I would
> not have backed up every itteration of the novel, and would probably
> have done a backup a few weeks later. The restore, then, would happen
> between my backups, so what would happen to the file in question? I
> hope that makes sense.
>
> On 2/3/12, Scott Howell   wrote:
>> Alex answers follow below:
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 1. Will any external hard drive work?
>> ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should
>> ensure
>> you
>> have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having
>> a
>> drive that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing
>> up.
>> THis is not a requirement, but a consideration.
>>
>>
>>> 2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a
>>> partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by
>>> Windows computers?
>> I do not recall whether it matters, but the TIme Machine utility takes
>> care
>> of this if I recall correctly. You could split the drive into multiple
>> partitions and choose where you want TIme Machine to place the
>> backups.
>>
>>> 3. Is time machine fully accessible?
>> I have not had any problems using TIme Machine.
>>
>>
>>> 4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off
>>> an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I
>>> just browse to that file and copy it like normal?
>> Yes.
>>
>>> 5. Is anything not backed up?
>> The only files that come to mind which are not backed up are those
>> that
>> have
>> no impact on operation of your Mac. In other words these are files you
>> do
>> not have direct access to and are only used by the current instance of
>> the
>> OS. So if you restored the entire machine or cloned the drive you
>> would
>> not
>> want these files.
>>