Re: Getting files into the cloud

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I have been asking this questions but about exporting a lot of files at once 
but have had no response yet.

Kawal.
On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:06 AM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello all.
> 
> Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get files into the cloud and onto 
> other devices?  I heard that if I use pages, files will go there but I don't 
> know if it is necessary to save them somewhere like on my iDisk, or in 
> another folder.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
> world!
> 
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: Logic Pro

[Mr. L. Alexander]

I'm not stating assumptions. just pure fact.

though OS X lion and the latest update may offer a few object links, you cannot 
interact with the main window correctly nor run logic as you need to use it. 
simple as that.

The day apple pulls it's finger out to make logic pro fully accessible is the 
day I become pope!

lol

lew

On 2 Jan 2012, at 23:39, Vic wrote:

> Hi,
> This topic is so timely.
> I just stopped by a local Apple store and had a chance to play with
> Logic Pro for about 10 minutes using VoiceOver on a Lion-powered
> system.
> I would not say that Logic is completely inaccessible. On the other
> hand I cannot say at this point how much it actually is.
> I was able to access toolbars, menus, track template library, some
> parts of mixer, transport controls and an assortment of other things.
> So, I am wondering who on the list have actually played with the
> latest Logic Pro 9.1.6 and can tell us which parts are accessible,
> which ones are nearly accessible and which ones are completely out of
> question. I'd love to play with real facts and not just assumptions.
> 
> Anyone, please?
> Thanks a lot.
> Victor
> 
> 
> 
> Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>> no it isn't
>> 
>> it hasn't been accessible at all for a long time.
>> 
>> there's only 1 workaround to using logic blind. that's using a professional 
>> digital production console worth about £10,000 or more.
>> 
>> the simple answer here is to go with AVID ProTools 10.
>> 
>> Sorry. logic is a touchy subject.
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> On 2 Jan 2012, at 21:46, Emrah wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey there,
>>> 
>>> Does anybody know if Logic Pro is accessible with VO?
>>> I saw it for $199 and thought it sounded like an excellent deal for what it 
>>> can do.
>>> 
>>> Thanks and best wishes for 2012,
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
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>>> Albert Einstein
>>> 
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>> Mr. L. Alexander.
>> Free Macs For The Blind.
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>> Direct line: 07936 877500
>> Twitter: @macsfortheblind
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>> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch.
>> 
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Re: how to do envelopes in Pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Gigi,

Well, you made me curious! I opened the Modern Envelope template and it worked 
as normal for me. I interacted with the body and pressing the right arrow 
highlighted each part of the address in turn.

I then stopped interacting with the body and the page, then interacted with the 
page again and VO said "4 items". There was a text box with my address already 
in it and the name of my organisation to the left of that.

OK, I cheated! I was curious about the layout, so I got out my trusty optacon 
and looked at the screen. The sender's company name and address are up in the 
top left corner, and the addressee's name and address somewhere in the middle.

I have my mouse cursor set to ignore the others, which might make a difference.

Cheers,

Anne


On 3 Jan 2012, at 01:14, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> Hi again Ann. 
> I figured it out, and let me tell you how I got it to work. 
> 
> VO never said highlighted but gave me text instead. Using item chooser, when 
> it said the stuff that was in there and then said text box text box, I did VO 
> space on it and then immediately interacted. I didn't think I needed to 
> interact, but it didn't move the writing cursor until I did. I supposedly 
> have all my cursors following each other. I'm going to try and work on it and 
> get myself a template called Gigi's envelope with my return address in it and 
> then put the text I need for placers in there so I can do my envelopes 
> easier. If I could figure out how to make the space a little bigger, I will 
> so I don't have to use so many abbreviations. Wish me luck here. I'll need 
> it. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
> On Jan 2, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ann. 
>> It's not happening like I remember before when I got a Pages template. I 
>> seem to remember getting the highlight message like you said before. 
>> However, this time, when I opened the template, the braille display showed 
>> text that you can delete, and I thought, replace with what you want. This 
>> looks like a change from earlier. I complained once to iWork about these 
>> templates being a pain. Do you know if this has been changed or something? I 
>> am using the Modern Envelope template. I think I have to use the item 
>> chooser to go from the return address to the receiver's address. 
>> 
>> I'll mess with it so more and see if I can make it work. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi 
>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Gigi,
>>> 
>>> The procedure is the same for all templates. Where there is placeholder 
>>> text, just use the arrow keys without the VO keys and when you hear 
>>> "Highlighted", then you can overtype what's already there.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jan 2012, at 20:10, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys.
 I got my printer set up, no problem. Easier than it ever was in Windows. I 
 was pleasantly surprised. You guys told me how easy it was going to be, 
 and it was. 
 
 
 Now for the next hurdle. I want to do envelopes, the business kind, not 
 the big ones. I found a template in Pages, and I was quite proud of myself 
 at first because I thought I had replaced the text shown in the template 
 with what I wanted. However, when it was printed, my husband said it had 
 the original stuff in a different block plus what I typed. What's the best 
 way to do this? 
 
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Re: RSS

[Deamon David]

Hi folks.
I
'm using Google Reader (http://www.google.com/reader/).
Then I can read my RSS'es on all my devices (have lots of computers,
phones and so on).
You can also look at the mobile version of the GReader. Just add an
"m" after the last "/".
-David
On 3 Jan, 07:10, Marc Sutton  wrote:
> Hi Traci,
> Thanks for that recommendation. It seems to work with Voiceover, although a 
> few buttons need labeling. The .opml file imported successfully and kept my 
> folder hierarchy. Looks like a great program for the job.
> Marc
>
> On Jan 2, 2012, at 8:46 PM, Traci wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello Marc,
>
> > Vienna was recommended to me for rss and the Mac.  Unfortunately, I can't 
> > give you much guidance on it, because I haven't explored the app much.  I 
> > downloaded it early on with my Mac, and haven't revisited it.
>
> > Good luck,
> > Traci
> > PS. I believe you will be able to import your OPML file.
> > Sent by Macbook Air Mail
>
> > On Jan 2, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Marc Sutton wrote:
>
> >> Hi Teresa,
> >> Thanks for that tip. It doesn't appear that you can import feeds into 
> >> either program. I have a bunch of them in an opml file that i would like 
> >> to view on the mac. I will see if there are any solutions to this. The Mac 
> >> Mail implementation of rss does look pretty good though.
> >> Cheers, Marc
> >> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>
> >>> Hi, Marc,
>
> >>> I actually use Mail to do this. When you use Safari to go to an XML page, 
> >>> there are buttons for subscribing via Safari or mail. When you subscribe, 
> >>> a mailbox for each feed is created automatically.
>
> >>> HTH, Teresa
>
> >>> Slow down; you'll get there faster."
>
> >>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>  I was wondering how people read rss. Safari or some other desktop 
>  reader. Any experiences with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>  Marc
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Re: Deleting podcast from iPhone

[Deamon David]

Hi again, and thanks for answers.
I tried both with VO on and off.
I didn't manage to do it whith VO off, but with VO on I did the
following:
-Find the actual podcast I'd like to delete
-Tap to select it
-Double tap, and hold until there comes a sound
-Than right after the sound, drag the finger to the right, while
touching the screen with another finger

-David
On 3 Jan, 05:29, Paul Hunt <.
prhu...@att.net> wrote:
> Thanks Jef. I was able to remove the podcasts. Thnks.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 2, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > It applies to an episode.
>
> > The key is turning Voiceover off and then back on after you do the swipe 
> > gesture.
>
> > I tried the pass-through gesture but, that didn't allow me to keep 
> > voiceover on.
>
> > Jeff
>
> > On 2012-01-02, at 7:12 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
>
> >> This does not work for me, you must have the magic touch. When I put my 
> >> finger on the podcast and swipe right I don't get th confirmation button. 
> >> Do the instructions apply to an entire podcast or individual episodes?
>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
>
> >> On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
>
> >>> On the iPhone, find the podcast you want to delete and remember where 
> >>> abouts it appears on the screen.  Then turn off Voiceover and do a swipe 
> >>> from left to right at the location of the podcast.  Turn Voiceover back 
> >>> on and look for the confirmation button and double tap it.
>
> >>> Hth,
> >>> Jeff
>
> >>> On 2012-01-02, at 1:08 PM, Deamon David wrote:
>
>  Hi guys.
>  Can anyone here tell me how to delete podcasts that are downloaded on
>  the iPhone?
>  I've tried to find different ways to delete them.
>  For example syncing with my Mac, and then delete it from there and
>  sync again, That method resulted in just getting the files from the
>  iPhone back to the Mac again.
>  What to do?
>  Cheers David
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Pro audio mixing in GarageBand

[Deamon David]

Hi.
Have anyone here tried to do pro audio mixing in GarageBand?
Since GB supports AU-plugins (some at least), there should be a
posibility... Or what?
I have a 24 track live recording that I'd do some work with.
I'm thinking of doing the basics in GB and then move it over to Logic
and get sighted help for the rest.
Could that work? Or is the ooonly way  to get the job done Pro Tools
10?
-David

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Re: FaceBook iphone replacement app

[David Eagle]

Hi, I downloaded the Facebook App from the Ap store on December 23rd
and it worksfine. I'm using an IPhone 4S with IOS5 andVoice Over.


On 02/01/2012, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> I don't understand how items are sorted in Newsfeed in the app. I would like
> them sorted by date most recent first. How can I make this happen?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 1, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Joanne Chua  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Been using facebook for iphone app since i got my iphone which is end
>> of 2010 and found it pretty accessible. Yes, it can be better, but i'm
>> not aware of any inaccessible issue at all. sometime it plays up,
>> particularly when we upgreat from IOS4 to IOS5. but soon after,
>> facebook did another update on their app, now its all right. not 100%
>> perhaps, but i would say i can do 90% of the tasks without any major
>> issue.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> J
>>
>> On 02/01/2012, CHUCK REICHEL  wrote:
>>> Hi David,
>>> Happy New Year Also!
>>> Its Probably that "inaccessible" "Garget Note Feature" they are talking
>>> about! ;)
>>> Talk soon
>>> CHUCK REICHEL
>>> 954-742-0019
>>> www.SoundPictureRecording.com
>>> In GOD I Trust
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 1, 2012, at 6:27 PM, David Eagle wrote:
>>>
 Hi, happy New Year. I've been using the Facebook app on the iPhone for
 over a week now with no problems. What is inaccessible about it?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 31 Dec 2011, at 19:20, Ed Worrell  wrote:

> Hello listers, I have found a really great app to replace the Facebook
> crap of an app. The app is called Facedekk it is made by Taknology, you
> can search for either of these and find it in the app store. I don't
> know
> if it is in all the app stores I live in the United States. It is a
> great
> app the developers have made it fully accessible with VO, not sure if
> this was intentional but it is great anyway, It does everything the
> Facebook app is supposed to do. The only thing that I have found that
> doesn't work is the settings section of the app, I did send a email to
> the developer to see if they would fix this issue, and to see if they
> would add push notifications to the app. The app even uses the Vo
> gestures to back to the previous page which I missed greatly on the
> Facebook app. It is a all around well done app. There is two versions
> of
> the app one that is $.99 and that is free, I have purchesed the paid
> version.
>
> Enjoy,
> Ed
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Re: method for routing system sound output to two sources

[Emrah]

Hello,

Great concept!
If my recollection is correct, SoundFlower comes packaged with an app called 
SoundBed (or something that sounds like that). When you open up the app, it 
creates a menu item (one of those that are not accessible with VO keys). You 
can use your mouse to try and locate it.
The app lets you pick an output device for everything sent to SoundFlower. 
That will allow you to have VO speaking both through your speakers and 
simultaneously transmitted over Skype via SoundFlower.

Good luck and hope this helps,
Emrah
Ps: If anybody is interested in a little bit of coding, We could work on a 
script that would enable and disable the use of SoundFlower upon remote login 
via Remote Desktop. 
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On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

> Hi list,
> 
> I've tried an interesting experiment to control my mac via skype. I have one 
> bit missing to make it fully efficient. Usually going through ssh i get 
> across most of my needs, but some applications require full GUI control to 
> get there quickly. And of course, most software is made for sighted users in 
> mind and therefore believe audio capture is an annex burden for bandwidth and 
> therefore we're left out.
> 
> Here's the low down.
> 1- i create a skype account with the hostname of the server or client i wish 
> to control abacus.blahblah.net
> In its call settings, i set it to accept incoming calls automatically. Since 
> it only has me as a contact, there can't be mistakes.
> 
> 2
> I Use soundflower to route system sounds
> Output To skype's input.
> 
> 3
> I call the server via my laptop, connect and control it via ARD, and voilà.
> 
> However, since sound is routed from system, voice over being system and not a 
> sub-channel of system, i'm left with no sound on my server. This isn't too 
> much of an issue as i know the steps required to open system prefs, sound, 
> output tab and switch my output device back to the mac's internal speakers.
> 
> It would be, however, cool if i could route system sound to both skype's 
> input and itself. Soundflower documentation says that i can possibly do such 
> a thing with the soundflower 16 channel mode but haven't found the right 
> combination for it to work.
> 
> Anyone have any idea?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
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completely OT: new independence community website planned

[f10r14n]

Hello,

This has nothing at all to do with the mac, voiceOver, iOS or anything
similar. If this in any way displeases you, please stop reading now.
Still here? Nice. I would like to ask for your opinions on an idea I
came up with yesterday. Those who follow me on twitter, @zersiax is my
handle, will have already seen this.
Yesterday I was browsing the well-known applevis website and I had an
idea. We are cataloging apps and their accessibility, workarounds for
common problems ...why can't we do this for real-life non-digital
problems?
A lot of visually impaired people don't have the luxury of specialized
training programs to be able to live independently. Others might not
want to, but miss the resources they need to learn on their own.
Why not create a website like Applevis, but with tasks and how to
complete them? Like cleaning, making coffee, cooking, sorting laundry,
picking out clothes?
I think together we can build a resource that will be invaluable to a
large number of people.
I will set up the website, do all the technical stuff. But I will need
a community behind me. I will need people to submit content. I will
need people to make the site grow and reach it's full potential.
Who's with me?

Regards,
Florian

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RE: completely OT: new independence community website planned

[Angela Delicata]

very good idea.
I'm with you and I'd like to see the site on line soon.

Regards.
Angela from Italy.


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Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 1:04 PM
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Subject: completely OT: new independence community website planned

Hello,

This has nothing at all to do with the mac, voiceOver, iOS or anything
similar. If this in any way displeases you, please stop reading now.
Still here? Nice. I would like to ask for your opinions on an idea I came up
with yesterday. Those who follow me on twitter, @zersiax is my handle, will
have already seen this.
Yesterday I was browsing the well-known applevis website and I had an idea.
We are cataloging apps and their accessibility, workarounds for common
problems ...why can't we do this for real-life non-digital problems?
A lot of visually impaired people don't have the luxury of specialized
training programs to be able to live independently. Others might not want
to, but miss the resources they need to learn on their own.
Why not create a website like Applevis, but with tasks and how to complete
them? Like cleaning, making coffee, cooking, sorting laundry, picking out
clothes?
I think together we can build a resource that will be invaluable to a large
number of people.
I will set up the website, do all the technical stuff. But I will need a
community behind me. I will need people to submit content. I will need
people to make the site grow and reach it's full potential.
Who's with me?

Regards,
Florian

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Re: method for routing system sound output to two sources

[Eric Oyen]

I wouldn't mind having this feature. also, the soundflower icon in the system 
bar is invisible to voiceover. is there any way to change this behavior? from 
what I have been told, the icon is left of the scripts entry.

any help would be helpful.

-eric

On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:02 AM, Emrah wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Great concept!
> If my recollection is correct, SoundFlower comes packaged with an app called 
> SoundBed (or something that sounds like that). When you open up the app, it 
> creates a menu item (one of those that are not accessible with VO keys). You 
> can use your mouse to try and locate it.
> The app lets you pick an output device for everything sent to SoundFlower. 
> That will allow you to have VO speaking both through your speakers and 
> simultaneously transmitted over Skype via SoundFlower.
> 
> Good luck and hope this helps,
> Emrah
> Ps: If anybody is interested in a little bit of coding, We could work on a 
> script that would enable and disable the use of SoundFlower upon remote login 
> via Remote Desktop. 
> --
> Emrah
> 
> “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” 
> Albert Einstein
> 
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> I've tried an interesting experiment to control my mac via skype. I have one 
>> bit missing to make it fully efficient. Usually going through ssh i get 
>> across most of my needs, but some applications require full GUI control to 
>> get there quickly. And of course, most software is made for sighted users in 
>> mind and therefore believe audio capture is an annex burden for bandwidth 
>> and therefore we're left out.
>> 
>> Here's the low down.
>> 1- i create a skype account with the hostname of the server or client i wish 
>> to control abacus.blahblah.net
>> In its call settings, i set it to accept incoming calls automatically. Since 
>> it only has me as a contact, there can't be mistakes.
>> 
>> 2
>> I Use soundflower to route system sounds
>> Output To skype's input.
>> 
>> 3
>> I call the server via my laptop, connect and control it via ARD, and voilà.
>> 
>> However, since sound is routed from system, voice over being system and not 
>> a sub-channel of system, i'm left with no sound on my server. This isn't too 
>> much of an issue as i know the steps required to open system prefs, sound, 
>> output tab and switch my output device back to the mac's internal speakers.
>> 
>> It would be, however, cool if i could route system sound to both skype's 
>> input and itself. Soundflower documentation says that i can possibly do such 
>> a thing with the soundflower 16 channel mode but haven't found the right 
>> combination for it to work.
>> 
>> Anyone have any idea?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Yuma 
>> 
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Re: completely OT: new independence community website planned

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

But there loads of local resources covering these types of things unless this 
is for those throughout the world?  Not against this but may be you will 
duplicate local sources of information.

Kawal.

On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:08 PM, Angela Delicata  wrote:

> very good idea.
> I'm with you and I'd like to see the site on line soon.
> 
> Regards.
> Angela from Italy.
> 
> 
> --
> "La verità si ritrova sempre nella semplicità, mai nella confusione". (Isaac
> Asimov).
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of f10r14n
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 1:04 PM
> To: MacVisionaries
> Subject: completely OT: new independence community website planned
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This has nothing at all to do with the mac, voiceOver, iOS or anything
> similar. If this in any way displeases you, please stop reading now.
> Still here? Nice. I would like to ask for your opinions on an idea I came up
> with yesterday. Those who follow me on twitter, @zersiax is my handle, will
> have already seen this.
> Yesterday I was browsing the well-known applevis website and I had an idea.
> We are cataloging apps and their accessibility, workarounds for common
> problems ...why can't we do this for real-life non-digital problems?
> A lot of visually impaired people don't have the luxury of specialized
> training programs to be able to live independently. Others might not want
> to, but miss the resources they need to learn on their own.
> Why not create a website like Applevis, but with tasks and how to complete
> them? Like cleaning, making coffee, cooking, sorting laundry, picking out
> clothes?
> I think together we can build a resource that will be invaluable to a large
> number of people.
> I will set up the website, do all the technical stuff. But I will need a
> community behind me. I will need people to submit content. I will need
> people to make the site grow and reach it's full potential.
> Who's with me?
> 
> Regards,
> Florian
> 
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Re: completely OT: new independence community website planned

[f10r14n]

Hello,

I am not aware of any such resources , either in English or in Dutch,
which cover the topics previously described.
Indeed, I want this information to be accessible, free of charge,
without any hastle, to anyone who needs it . And I want people to be
able to contribute with whatever they think will benefit others
without any problems.
Please, point me to some of the resources you mentioned.

Florian

On 3 jan, 12:42, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> But there loads of local resources covering these types of things unless this 
> is for those throughout the world?  Not against this but may be you will 
> duplicate local sources of information.
>
> Kawal.
>
> On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:08 PM, Angela Delicata  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > very good idea.
> > I'm with you and I'd like to see the site on line soon.
>
> > Regards.
> > Angela from Italy.
>
> > --
> > "La verità si ritrova sempre nella semplicità, mai nella confusione". (Isaac
> > Asimov).
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of f10r14n
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 1:04 PM
> > To: MacVisionaries
> > Subject: completely OT: new independence community website planned
>
> > Hello,
>
> > This has nothing at all to do with the mac, voiceOver, iOS or anything
> > similar. If this in any way displeases you, please stop reading now.
> > Still here? Nice. I would like to ask for your opinions on an idea I came up
> > with yesterday. Those who follow me on twitter, @zersiax is my handle, will
> > have already seen this.
> > Yesterday I was browsing the well-known applevis website and I had an idea.
> > We are cataloging apps and their accessibility, workarounds for common
> > problems ...why can't we do this for real-life non-digital problems?
> > A lot of visually impaired people don't have the luxury of specialized
> > training programs to be able to live independently. Others might not want
> > to, but miss the resources they need to learn on their own.
> > Why not create a website like Applevis, but with tasks and how to complete
> > them? Like cleaning, making coffee, cooking, sorting laundry, picking out
> > clothes?
> > I think together we can build a resource that will be invaluable to a large
> > number of people.
> > I will set up the website, do all the technical stuff. But I will need a
> > community behind me. I will need people to submit content. I will need
> > people to make the site grow and reach it's full potential.
> > Who's with me?
>
> > Regards,
> > Florian
>
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Re: completely OT: new independence community website planned

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Why not take this off list as Cara does not like completely OT.  After all its 
her list in a sense and we have to abide by the rules and I think her wishes 
should be respected.

If you write to me off list, I will point you to some.

Kawal.

On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:58 PM, f10r14n  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am not aware of any such resources , either in English or in Dutch,
> which cover the topics previously described.
> Indeed, I want this information to be accessible, free of charge,
> without any hastle, to anyone who needs it . And I want people to be
> able to contribute with whatever they think will benefit others
> without any problems.
> Please, point me to some of the resources you mentioned.
> 
> Florian
> 
> On 3 jan, 12:42, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> But there loads of local resources covering these types of things unless 
>> this is for those throughout the world?  Not against this but may be you 
>> will duplicate local sources of information.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:08 PM, Angela Delicata  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> very good idea.
>>> I'm with you and I'd like to see the site on line soon.
>> 
>>> Regards.
>>> Angela from Italy.
>> 
>>> --
>>> "La verità si ritrova sempre nella semplicità, mai nella confusione". (Isaac
>>> Asimov).
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of f10r14n
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 1:04 PM
>>> To: MacVisionaries
>>> Subject: completely OT: new independence community website planned
>> 
>>> Hello,
>> 
>>> This has nothing at all to do with the mac, voiceOver, iOS or anything
>>> similar. If this in any way displeases you, please stop reading now.
>>> Still here? Nice. I would like to ask for your opinions on an idea I came up
>>> with yesterday. Those who follow me on twitter, @zersiax is my handle, will
>>> have already seen this.
>>> Yesterday I was browsing the well-known applevis website and I had an idea.
>>> We are cataloging apps and their accessibility, workarounds for common
>>> problems ...why can't we do this for real-life non-digital problems?
>>> A lot of visually impaired people don't have the luxury of specialized
>>> training programs to be able to live independently. Others might not want
>>> to, but miss the resources they need to learn on their own.
>>> Why not create a website like Applevis, but with tasks and how to complete
>>> them? Like cleaning, making coffee, cooking, sorting laundry, picking out
>>> clothes?
>>> I think together we can build a resource that will be invaluable to a large
>>> number of people.
>>> I will set up the website, do all the technical stuff. But I will need a
>>> community behind me. I will need people to submit content. I will need
>>> people to make the site grow and reach it's full potential.
>>> Who's with me?
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Florian
>> 
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Recommending DJay 4 by Algoriddim

[Emrah]

Hello MacVisionnaires,

A month ago, I bought DJay on the Mac App Store. I purposefully kept my 
accessibility expectations very low, as nothing I had previously tried on 
Windows was close to accessible.
I am writing to briefly share my amazing experience with this App, which now 
has become a very fun tool.

The app is totally accessible except for a few minor controls with the mouse. 
You can absolutely overcome these by using a hardware interface, which I did.
The App uses your iTunes playlist and browsing with VoiceOver is not an issue 
at all. You have two virtual turntables on which you must load tracks to start 
playing.
I will not elaborate too much on how to get started here, but would be happy to 
hold a brief Skype session to give you a quick start tutorial if any of you are 
interested. The Skype call would be recorded to archive as a Podcast for future 
curious users.

I purchased the Numark Mixtrack Pro which offers a very easy interface, with 
physical nobs, sliders, jog wheels and very distinct buttons. 
The software is so accessible that I can put my laptop aside and control the 
whole party through the Numark, including browsing my playlists and titles, 
looping, scratching, crossfading and applying numerous effects.

I am an amateur, but had a lot of fun DJaying for our New Year's eve party. 
What I managed to learn in a few days and experimented at the party ,actually 
sounded much better than some sophisticated club DJs. 

Strongly recommended! I got the app for only $20, on sale on the App Store. I 
bought the hardware interface in Switzerland for approx. $250.

All the best,
--
Emrah

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Albert Einstein

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Re: completely OT: new independence community website planned

[f10r14n]

No need to write you off list for you can just use the 'reply to
author' function or get my email address from the from: line in my
emails. I was only posting here to announce my idea, and if Cara tells
me to stop posting then I will.
I am reluctant to take this off list for I want people to be able to
keep up with the goings on of this idea.

Florian

On 3 jan, 13:05, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> Why not take this off list as Cara does not like completely OT.  After all 
> its her list in a sense and we have to abide by the rules and I think her 
> wishes should be respected.
>
> If you write to me off list, I will point you to some.
>
> Kawal.
>
> On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:58 PM, f10r14n  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I am not aware of any such resources , either in English or in Dutch,
> > which cover the topics previously described.
> > Indeed, I want this information to be accessible, free of charge,
> > without any hastle, to anyone who needs it . And I want people to be
> > able to contribute with whatever they think will benefit others
> > without any problems.
> > Please, point me to some of the resources you mentioned.
>
> > Florian
>
> > On 3 jan, 12:42, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> >> But there loads of local resources covering these types of things unless 
> >> this is for those throughout the world?  Not against this but may be you 
> >> will duplicate local sources of information.
>
> >> Kawal.
>
> >> On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:08 PM, Angela Delicata  
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> very good idea.
> >>> I'm with you and I'd like to see the site on line soon.
>
> >>> Regards.
> >>> Angela from Italy.
>
> >>> --
> >>> "La verità si ritrova sempre nella semplicità, mai nella confusione". 
> >>> (Isaac
> >>> Asimov).
>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of f10r14n
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 1:04 PM
> >>> To: MacVisionaries
> >>> Subject: completely OT: new independence community website planned
>
> >>> Hello,
>
> >>> This has nothing at all to do with the mac, voiceOver, iOS or anything
> >>> similar. If this in any way displeases you, please stop reading now.
> >>> Still here? Nice. I would like to ask for your opinions on an idea I came 
> >>> up
> >>> with yesterday. Those who follow me on twitter, @zersiax is my handle, 
> >>> will
> >>> have already seen this.
> >>> Yesterday I was browsing the well-known applevis website and I had an 
> >>> idea.
> >>> We are cataloging apps and their accessibility, workarounds for common
> >>> problems ...why can't we do this for real-life non-digital problems?
> >>> A lot of visually impaired people don't have the luxury of specialized
> >>> training programs to be able to live independently. Others might not want
> >>> to, but miss the resources they need to learn on their own.
> >>> Why not create a website like Applevis, but with tasks and how to complete
> >>> them? Like cleaning, making coffee, cooking, sorting laundry, picking out
> >>> clothes?
> >>> I think together we can build a resource that will be invaluable to a 
> >>> large
> >>> number of people.
> >>> I will set up the website, do all the technical stuff. But I will need a
> >>> community behind me. I will need people to submit content. I will need
> >>> people to make the site grow and reach it's full potential.
> >>> Who's with me?
>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Florian
>
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Re: Using control right and left arrows under fusion and windows 7

[Søren Jensen]

Hi.

I'm not sure on what you mean. So control and all arrow keys works for you in 
Fusion and all other applications on your Mac?
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s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 02/01/2012 kl. 22.14 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu:

> I haven't got the table when I go to keyboard shortcuts I just have Enable 
> fusion shortcuts and the box is checked.  Next to that I have include command 
> tab exposay dashboard etc.  and nothing else.  Anyideas?
> 
> Kawal.
> On 2 Jan 2012, at 14:13, Søren Jensen wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> As someone said earlier, you have to do the following:
>> 1: Go into system preferences on your mac
>> 2: Go into keyboard
>> 3: Choose the shortcut tab or whatever it's called
>> 4: Choose mission control in the first table
>> 5: Uncheck all shortcut keys in the other table and then it all works 
>> without any issues.
>> Best regards:
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>> 
>> Den 02/01/2012 kl. 00.49 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu:
>> 
>>> Well in windows I have the same problem.  I can't arrow left or right with 
>>> the control key if I am to move word by word and that's annoying.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> On 1 Jan 2012, at 11:39 PM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Kawal,
 
 I tried that and it did not work.  I got to the from and to table, I 
 checked first option then right arrow and in the to table, I checked 
 control then right arrow.  I did the same for the left arrow; then I 
 closed all that out and when I went back into windows, my control left and 
 right still did nothing.
 
 Marlaina
 On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 
 If you go into vmware preferences, keyboard and mouse, you can add your 
 mapping there as long as you hit key mapping tab.  It can be confusing but 
 once its done, then you can access your mapping preferences through any 
 virtual machine and you do not have to use sharpe keys.
 
 Kawal.On 31 Dec 2011, at 21:01, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
 
> Hmm, is there a way to remap keys using the mac to disable that?
> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> 
> I haven't found a way around this either. The problem is that the Mac 
> uses ctrl+right/left arrows to move between spaces in launchpad, and I 
> don't think you can disable that.
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 31, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Hi there.
>> 
>> I use Window-eyes and have tried turning vo off.  I still cannot control 
>> arrow.  I tried it with a windows kb and an apple kb, both USB 
>> connected; same problem.
>> 
>> Thanks for your kind wishes!  We are having surf and turf and bubbles 
>> tonight, smile.
>> 
>> Marlaina 
>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>> Does this happen when voice over is running?
>> 
>> Just that when I have windows running with voice over off, if I try to 
>> select words or lines using jaws, something crashes and I have to do alt 
>> tav twice to get speech back re jaws but nothing is selected or copied 
>> to the clip board.  I do not know if its a bmware problem or windows 
>> problem or a jaws problem.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> P.S. congratulations on your wedding anniversary.
>> 
>> On 31 Dec 2011, at 07:52 PM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> I asked this question on another list and didn't get anyone who knew 
>>> how to solve the problem, but heard from others having the problem.
>>> 
>>> I am dual booting my mbp with windows 7 under vm fusion.  All works 
>>> well except for the use of control left and right or up and down 
>>> arrows.  What this means is I can't move by word, only by character.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else experienced this, and is there a resolution for the 
>>> problem?
>>> 
>>> Marlaina, who is celebrating her wedding anniversary today!  The whole 
>>> world celebrates my anniversary, Happy New Year to all!
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Re: completely OT: new independence community website planned

[Emrah]

Hello Florian,

My understanding of "taking it off list" is exactly what you described in your 
message and I approve Kawal's suggestion.
I don't want to step on anybody's toes, but perhaps you could create a new 
discussion list and paste a link here to invite the interested ones to join?
Your idea sounds good and I definitely recommend a brainstorming session 
through a dedicated list to get it started.

My personal technical suggestion would be to create a sort of Wiki where 
everybody could post tips and tricks, whether it is digital or not, actually.

Best of luck for your project,

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On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:58 AM, f10r14n wrote:

> No need to write you off list for you can just use the 'reply to
> author' function or get my email address from the from: line in my
> emails. I was only posting here to announce my idea, and if Cara tells
> me to stop posting then I will.
> I am reluctant to take this off list for I want people to be able to
> keep up with the goings on of this idea.
> 
> Florian
> 
> On 3 jan, 13:05, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> Why not take this off list as Cara does not like completely OT.  After all 
>> its her list in a sense and we have to abide by the rules and I think her 
>> wishes should be respected.
>> 
>> If you write to me off list, I will point you to some.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:58 PM, f10r14n  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello,
>> 
>>> I am not aware of any such resources , either in English or in Dutch,
>>> which cover the topics previously described.
>>> Indeed, I want this information to be accessible, free of charge,
>>> without any hastle, to anyone who needs it . And I want people to be
>>> able to contribute with whatever they think will benefit others
>>> without any problems.
>>> Please, point me to some of the resources you mentioned.
>> 
>>> Florian
>> 
>>> On 3 jan, 12:42, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 But there loads of local resources covering these types of things unless 
 this is for those throughout the world?  Not against this but may be you 
 will duplicate local sources of information.
>> 
 Kawal.
>> 
 On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:08 PM, Angela Delicata  
 wrote:
>> 
> very good idea.
> I'm with you and I'd like to see the site on line soon.
>> 
> Regards.
> Angela from Italy.
>> 
> --
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> (Isaac
> Asimov).
>> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of f10r14n
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 1:04 PM
> To: MacVisionaries
> Subject: completely OT: new independence community website planned
>> 
> Hello,
>> 
> This has nothing at all to do with the mac, voiceOver, iOS or anything
> similar. If this in any way displeases you, please stop reading now.
> Still here? Nice. I would like to ask for your opinions on an idea I came 
> up
> with yesterday. Those who follow me on twitter, @zersiax is my handle, 
> will
> have already seen this.
> Yesterday I was browsing the well-known applevis website and I had an 
> idea.
> We are cataloging apps and their accessibility, workarounds for common
> problems ...why can't we do this for real-life non-digital problems?
> A lot of visually impaired people don't have the luxury of specialized
> training programs to be able to live independently. Others might not want
> to, but miss the resources they need to learn on their own.
> Why not create a website like Applevis, but with tasks and how to complete
> them? Like cleaning, making coffee, cooking, sorting laundry, picking out
> clothes?
> I think together we can build a resource that will be invaluable to a 
> large
> number of people.
> I will set up the website, do all the technical stuff. But I will need a
> community behind me. I will need people to submit content. I will need
> people to make the site grow and reach it's full potential.
> Who's with me?
>> 
> Regards,
> Florian
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Re: Using control right and left arrows under fusion and windows 7

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Yes, they keys work on my Mac accept the mission control which comes on even 
though its unchecked in the preferences.

On 3 Jan 2012, at 02:25 PM, Søren Jensen  wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I'm not sure on what you mean. So control and all arrow keys works for you in 
> Fusion and all other applications on your Mac?
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
> 
> Den 02/01/2012 kl. 22.14 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu:
> 
>> I haven't got the table when I go to keyboard shortcuts I just have Enable 
>> fusion shortcuts and the box is checked.  Next to that I have include 
>> command tab exposay dashboard etc.  and nothing else.  Anyideas?
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 2 Jan 2012, at 14:13, Søren Jensen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> As someone said earlier, you have to do the following:
>>> 1: Go into system preferences on your mac
>>> 2: Go into keyboard
>>> 3: Choose the shortcut tab or whatever it's called
>>> 4: Choose mission control in the first table
>>> 5: Uncheck all shortcut keys in the other table and then it all works 
>>> without any issues.
>>> Best regards:
>>> Søren Jensen
>>> Mail & MSN:
>>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>>> Website:
>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>>> 
>>> Den 02/01/2012 kl. 00.49 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu:
>>> 
 Well in windows I have the same problem.  I can't arrow left or right with 
 the control key if I am to move word by word and that's annoying.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 1 Jan 2012, at 11:39 PM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
> Kawal,
> 
> I tried that and it did not work.  I got to the from and to table, I 
> checked first option then right arrow and in the to table, I checked 
> control then right arrow.  I did the same for the left arrow; then I 
> closed all that out and when I went back into windows, my control left 
> and right still did nothing.
> 
> Marlaina
> On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
> 
> If you go into vmware preferences, keyboard and mouse, you can add your 
> mapping there as long as you hit key mapping tab.  It can be confusing 
> but once its done, then you can access your mapping preferences through 
> any virtual machine and you do not have to use sharpe keys.
> 
> Kawal.On 31 Dec 2011, at 21:01, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Hmm, is there a way to remap keys using the mac to disable that?
>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>> 
>> I haven't found a way around this either. The problem is that the Mac 
>> uses ctrl+right/left arrows to move between spaces in launchpad, and I 
>> don't think you can disable that.
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there.
>>> 
>>> I use Window-eyes and have tried turning vo off.  I still cannot 
>>> control arrow.  I tried it with a windows kb and an apple kb, both USB 
>>> connected; same problem.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your kind wishes!  We are having surf and turf and bubbles 
>>> tonight, smile.
>>> 
>>> Marlaina 
>>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does this happen when voice over is running?
>>> 
>>> Just that when I have windows running with voice over off, if I try to 
>>> select words or lines using jaws, something crashes and I have to do 
>>> alt tav twice to get speech back re jaws but nothing is selected or 
>>> copied to the clip board.  I do not know if its a bmware problem or 
>>> windows problem or a jaws problem.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> P.S. congratulations on your wedding anniversary.
>>> 
>>> On 31 Dec 2011, at 07:52 PM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all.
 
 I asked this question on another list and didn't get anyone who knew 
 how to solve the problem, but heard from others having the problem.
 
 I am dual booting my mbp with windows 7 under vm fusion.  All works 
 well except for the use of control left and right or up and down 
 arrows.  What this means is I can't move by word, only by character.
 
 Has anyone else experienced this, and is there a resolution for the 
 problem?
 
 Marlaina, who is celebrating her wedding anniversary today!  The whole 
 world celebrates my anniversary, Happy New Year to all!
 
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Re: Using control right and left arrows under fusion and windows 7

[Søren Jensen]

As I said, you have to uncheck all shortcut keys for Mission controls as well. 
It's not enough to just uncheck Mission control but also all its shortcut keys 
like the f keys etc. Is that what you've done?
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 03/01/2012 kl. 15.34 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu:

> Yes, they keys work on my Mac accept the mission control which comes on even 
> though its unchecked in the preferences.
> 
> On 3 Jan 2012, at 02:25 PM, Søren Jensen  wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I'm not sure on what you mean. So control and all arrow keys works for you 
>> in Fusion and all other applications on your Mac?
>> Best regards:
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>> 
>> Den 02/01/2012 kl. 22.14 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu:
>> 
>>> I haven't got the table when I go to keyboard shortcuts I just have Enable 
>>> fusion shortcuts and the box is checked.  Next to that I have include 
>>> command tab exposay dashboard etc.  and nothing else.  Anyideas?
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> On 2 Jan 2012, at 14:13, Søren Jensen wrote:
>>> 
 Hi.
 
 As someone said earlier, you have to do the following:
 1: Go into system preferences on your mac
 2: Go into keyboard
 3: Choose the shortcut tab or whatever it's called
 4: Choose mission control in the first table
 5: Uncheck all shortcut keys in the other table and then it all works 
 without any issues.
 Best regards:
 Søren Jensen
 Mail & MSN:
 s...@coolfortheblind.dk
 Website:
 http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
 
 Den 02/01/2012 kl. 00.49 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu:
 
> Well in windows I have the same problem.  I can't arrow left or right 
> with the control key if I am to move word by word and that's annoying.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 1 Jan 2012, at 11:39 PM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Kawal,
>> 
>> I tried that and it did not work.  I got to the from and to table, I 
>> checked first option then right arrow and in the to table, I checked 
>> control then right arrow.  I did the same for the left arrow; then I 
>> closed all that out and when I went back into windows, my control left 
>> and right still did nothing.
>> 
>> Marlaina
>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> If you go into vmware preferences, keyboard and mouse, you can add your 
>> mapping there as long as you hit key mapping tab.  It can be confusing 
>> but once its done, then you can access your mapping preferences through 
>> any virtual machine and you do not have to use sharpe keys.
>> 
>> Kawal.On 31 Dec 2011, at 21:01, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmm, is there a way to remap keys using the mac to disable that?
>>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>>> 
>>> I haven't found a way around this either. The problem is that the Mac 
>>> uses ctrl+right/left arrows to move between spaces in launchpad, and I 
>>> don't think you can disable that.
>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there.
 
 I use Window-eyes and have tried turning vo off.  I still cannot 
 control arrow.  I tried it with a windows kb and an apple kb, both USB 
 connected; same problem.
 
 Thanks for your kind wishes!  We are having surf and turf and bubbles 
 tonight, smile.
 
 Marlaina 
 On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Does this happen when voice over is running?
 
 Just that when I have windows running with voice over off, if I try to 
 select words or lines using jaws, something crashes and I have to do 
 alt tav twice to get speech back re jaws but nothing is selected or 
 copied to the clip board.  I do not know if its a bmware problem or 
 windows problem or a jaws problem.
 
 Kawal.
 
 P.S. congratulations on your wedding anniversary.
 
 On 31 Dec 2011, at 07:52 PM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> 
 wrote:
 
> Hi all.
> 
> I asked this question on another list and didn't get anyone who knew 
> how to solve the problem, but heard from others having the problem.
> 
> I am dual booting my mbp with windows 7 under vm fusion.  All works 
> well except for the use of control left and right or up and down 
> arrows.  What this means is I can't move by word, only by character.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this, and is there a resolution for the 
> problem?
> 
> Mar

Re: iTunes question re external file server

[Chris Blouch]

I think a higher level description is that iTunes will store your 
preference of library location and use it from then on when you launch. 
But, if it can't find your new special location (because it doesn't 
exist for some reason) it will revert back to using the standard 
location. So if you have an external hard drive or network mounted drive 
for your iTunes library you will need to make sure that is 
connected/mounted first and then launch iTunes. Otherwise it will 
silently fail and go back to its old ways.


CB

On 1/2/12 7:49 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:

Hi,

Go to the desktop/finder. Press command + k. This opens the network connection 
dialog. Enter in the server name or the IP address of the server. EG:

smb://192.168.1.1


This will open a new dialog. If a username/password is required, you will be 
prompted. If none is required, then you will get a dialog showing the available 
shared directories available.


I hope the above helps.

Sean
On 03/01/2012, at 11:04 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:


Sean,

Thank you so much but how do I do this?  I don't even know where 
/volumes/directory is located or how to find it, not to mention what to do if 
the external server drive is not mounted.



Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the world!

Marlaina Lieberg
1guide...@gmail.com



On Jan 1, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:

Hi,

Make sure the external drive is mounted first. All mounted volumes are in 
/volumes directory.


Sean
On 02/01/2012, at 10:46 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:


Hi all.

Can anybody tell me why neither my Air nor my MBP will believe me when I tell 
them I want my libraries in iTunes located on my external server?  I keep 
having to change this each time I open iTunes, no matter which machine I use.

I have other questions about iTunes match, but will hold off on them.

Thanks so much and happy holidays to all!

MarlainaD

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Re: Symphonic Orchestra Jampack for Garage Band

[Chris Blouch]

Dunno why but it's available on Amazon for $123:

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Garageband-Jam-Pack-Orchestra/dp/B0008GLGRM

At that price you might just find it worth it to buy Mainstage 2 which I 
believe gives you the right to download all the jam packs (about 20GB) 
for free. Quite a deal at $30 US, even if you could care less about 
mainstage itself.


http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mainstage/id459585276?ls=1&mt=12

http://www.apple.com/logicpro/mainstage/#plugins-list

CB

On 1/2/12 6:53 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:
Or maybe it's another way of pushing you into buying Logic Pro. 
Problem is, if Logic Pro isn't accessible, I have zero incentive other 
than the packs. Gr.


Friendly,
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On Jan 2, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

This is a great question.  Honestly, I haven't a clue.  They haven't 
updated or added a new jam pack in maybe 5 or 6 years.  It could mean 
they are coming out with something new or, they are scrapping the 
entire project.  Besides finding some retailer who still has some 
copies, you would have to buy Logic to get all those loops and 
instruments.


Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com 
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Jan 2, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Vic wrote:


Hi Ricardo,
That was another question I wanted to ask. Why in a world Apple would
stop selling them? I am sure they know the reason. :)
I have to see if I can find them somewhere for a discounted price.
Wouldn't want to pay full only to learn that something new is to come
out in the next few months.
Anyone is willing to sell theirs? :)


Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

I believe apple stopped selling them bought, you might be able to 
find it on Amazon.


Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Jan 1, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:


So where do you get these Jam Packs from?

On 1 Jan 2012, at 06:30 PM, Ricardo Walker  
wrote:



Hi,

yes.  It's software.  Jam packs are a collection of audio samples 
and playable instruments.


Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Jan 1, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

I'd like to know is Jam Pack some kind of software?  I've not 
played with Garage band yet, but if I did, are there instruments 
already in there?  I am thinking of putting something together 
if there are instruments in garage band but not sure where to 
start and wonder if its simple.  If I could put some tracks 
together of my own making using Garage Band then that would be a 
good thing to do!  Bearing in mind I have no keyboard as I sold 
the last one as it was too visual for me.

On 1 Jan 2012, at 17:00, Ricardo Walker wrote:


Hi,

In my opinion, its the most diverse, and best sounding jam 
pack.  It is probably my rap bias speaking though.  lol.


Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Dec 31, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Victor Tsaran wrote:


Hello GB users,
Is there any one who owns this jam pack? Is it worth the money?

Thanks,
Vic

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Re: completely OT: new independence community website planned

[f10r14n]

Hello,

Very well. I have put up two warnings for this being off-topic, but I
have noticed that some people have taken offense at my posting this on
an apple-only mailing list.
I will therefore not speak of it again, or perhaps one more time to
share a link to a dedicated list for discussions regarding this
proposal.
Please understand that all I attempted to do was gauge the interest
for this kind of project. I can see now that my attempt has been ill-
received and has even been called 'completely inappropriate' by some.
I will not be as childish as to mention any names or point any fingers
here. If the moderators of this mailing list feel these messages
should be removed, by all means go ahead.
I will not bother this community again, after having maybe posted the
above mentioned link.

Have a nice day everyone,
Florian
PS: To those who did think it was a good idea, know that I will not
abandon it. I have had enough positive responses to make it
worthwhile, but you won't find any news of it here.


On 3 jan, 14:28, Emrah  wrote:
> Hello Florian,
>
> My understanding of "taking it off list" is exactly what you described in 
> your message and I approve Kawal's suggestion.
> I don't want to step on anybody's toes, but perhaps you could create a new 
> discussion list and paste a link here to invite the interested ones to join?
> Your idea sounds good and I definitely recommend a brainstorming session 
> through a dedicated list to get it started.
>
> My personal technical suggestion would be to create a sort of Wiki where 
> everybody could post tips and tricks, whether it is digital or not, actually.
>
> Best of luck for your project,
>
> --
> Emrah
>
> “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” 
> Albert Einstein
>
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:58 AM, f10r14n wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > No need to write you off list for you can just use the 'reply to
> > author' function or get my email address from the from: line in my
> > emails. I was only posting here to announce my idea, and if Cara tells
> > me to stop posting then I will.
> > I am reluctant to take this off list for I want people to be able to
> > keep up with the goings on of this idea.
>
> > Florian
>
> > On 3 jan, 13:05, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> >> Why not take this off list as Cara does not like completely OT.  After all 
> >> its her list in a sense and we have to abide by the rules and I think her 
> >> wishes should be respected.
>
> >> If you write to me off list, I will point you to some.
>
> >> Kawal.
>
> >> On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:58 PM, f10r14n  wrote:
>
> >>> Hello,
>
> >>> I am not aware of any such resources , either in English or in Dutch,
> >>> which cover the topics previously described.
> >>> Indeed, I want this information to be accessible, free of charge,
> >>> without any hastle, to anyone who needs it . And I want people to be
> >>> able to contribute with whatever they think will benefit others
> >>> without any problems.
> >>> Please, point me to some of the resources you mentioned.
>
> >>> Florian
>
> >>> On 3 jan, 12:42, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>  But there loads of local resources covering these types of things unless 
>  this is for those throughout the world?  Not against this but may be you 
>  will duplicate local sources of information.
>
>  Kawal.
>
>  On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:08 PM, Angela Delicata  
>  wrote:
>
> > very good idea.
> > I'm with you and I'd like to see the site on line soon.
>
> > Regards.
> > Angela from Italy.
>
> > --
> > "La verità si ritrova sempre nella semplicità, mai nella confusione". 
> > (Isaac
> > Asimov).
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of f10r14n
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 1:04 PM
> > To: MacVisionaries
> > Subject: completely OT: new independence community website planned
>
> > Hello,
>
> > This has nothing at all to do with the mac, voiceOver, iOS or anything
> > similar. If this in any way displeases you, please stop reading now.
> > Still here? Nice. I would like to ask for your opinions on an idea I 
> > came up
> > with yesterday. Those who follow me on twitter, @zersiax is my handle, 
> > will
> > have already seen this.
> > Yesterday I was browsing the well-known applevis website and I had an 
> > idea.
> > We are cataloging apps and their accessibility, workarounds for common
> > problems ...why can't we do this for real-life non-digital problems?
> > A lot of visually impaired people don't have the luxury of specialized
> > training programs to be able to live independently. Others might not 
> > want
> > to, but miss the resources they need to learn on their own.
> > Why not create a website like Applevis, but with tasks and how to 
> > complete
> > them? Like cleaning, making coffee, cooking, sorting 

Re: FaceBook iphone replacement app

[Marlaina Lieberg]

Could someone remind me of the name of the facebook app?  I searched for what I 
thought it was, but can't locate it.

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On Jan 3, 2012, at 2:24 AM, David Eagle wrote:

Hi, I downloaded the Facebook App from the Ap store on December 23rd
and it worksfine. I'm using an IPhone 4S with IOS5 andVoice Over.


On 02/01/2012, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> I don't understand how items are sorted in Newsfeed in the app. I would like
> them sorted by date most recent first. How can I make this happen?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 1, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Joanne Chua  wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Been using facebook for iphone app since i got my iphone which is end
>> of 2010 and found it pretty accessible. Yes, it can be better, but i'm
>> not aware of any inaccessible issue at all. sometime it plays up,
>> particularly when we upgreat from IOS4 to IOS5. but soon after,
>> facebook did another update on their app, now its all right. not 100%
>> perhaps, but i would say i can do 90% of the tasks without any major
>> issue.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> On 02/01/2012, CHUCK REICHEL  wrote:
>>> Hi David,
>>> Happy New Year Also!
>>> Its Probably that "inaccessible" "Garget Note Feature" they are talking
>>> about! ;)
>>> Talk soon
>>> CHUCK REICHEL
>>> 954-742-0019
>>> www.SoundPictureRecording.com
>>> In GOD I Trust
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2012, at 6:27 PM, David Eagle wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, happy New Year. I've been using the Facebook app on the iPhone for
 over a week now with no problems. What is inaccessible about it?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 31 Dec 2011, at 19:20, Ed Worrell  wrote:
 
> Hello listers, I have found a really great app to replace the Facebook
> crap of an app. The app is called Facedekk it is made by Taknology, you
> can search for either of these and find it in the app store. I don't
> know
> if it is in all the app stores I live in the United States. It is a
> great
> app the developers have made it fully accessible with VO, not sure if
> this was intentional but it is great anyway, It does everything the
> Facebook app is supposed to do. The only thing that I have found that
> doesn't work is the settings section of the app, I did send a email to
> the developer to see if they would fix this issue, and to see if they
> would add push notifications to the app. The app even uses the Vo
> gestures to back to the previous page which I missed greatly on the
> Facebook app. It is a all around well done app. There is two versions
> of
> the app one that is $.99 and that is free, I have purchesed the paid
> version.
> 
> Enjoy,
> Ed
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Re: completely OT: new independence community website planned

[Marlaina Lieberg]

I find myself wondering why some folks think putting an o t notification in the 
subject think that makes the post ok for a given list, smile.  No vengeance 
meant, just it feels kind of rude to me, like if I say no smoking in my house 
so you stand in the doorway with your back in my house and your stinky 
cigarette pointing outside, smile.  Sorry, this is just a pet peeve of mine.

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On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:03 AM, f10r14n wrote:

Hello,

This has nothing at all to do with the mac, voiceOver, iOS or anything
similar. If this in any way displeases you, please stop reading now.
Still here? Nice. I would like to ask for your opinions on an idea I
came up with yesterday. Those who follow me on twitter, @zersiax is my
handle, will have already seen this.
Yesterday I was browsing the well-known applevis website and I had an
idea. We are cataloging apps and their accessibility, workarounds for
common problems ...why can't we do this for real-life non-digital
problems?
A lot of visually impaired people don't have the luxury of specialized
training programs to be able to live independently. Others might not
want to, but miss the resources they need to learn on their own.
Why not create a website like Applevis, but with tasks and how to
complete them? Like cleaning, making coffee, cooking, sorting laundry,
picking out clothes?
I think together we can build a resource that will be invaluable to a
large number of people.
I will set up the website, do all the technical stuff. But I will need
a community behind me. I will need people to submit content. I will
need people to make the site grow and reach it's full potential.
Who's with me?

Regards,
Florian

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Re: completely OT: new independence community website planned

[Scott Rumery]

Hello, I really like this idea.  I have been wanting to  do something like this 
for a while now, but I just didn't know how to get such a project started.  I 
do have some time on my hands as i am not employed right now.  So if I can help 
in any way to get this project under way, please let me know.  

Scott Rumery

telephone # 478-993-8717  

On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:58 AM, f10r14n wrote:

> No need to write you off list for you can just use the 'reply to
> author' function or get my email address from the from: line in my
> emails. I was only posting here to announce my idea, and if Cara tells
> me to stop posting then I will.
> I am reluctant to take this off list for I want people to be able to
> keep up with the goings on of this idea.
> 
> Florian
> 
> On 3 jan, 13:05, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> Why not take this off list as Cara does not like completely OT.  After all 
>> its her list in a sense and we have to abide by the rules and I think her 
>> wishes should be respected.
>> 
>> If you write to me off list, I will point you to some.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:58 PM, f10r14n  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello,
>> 
>>> I am not aware of any such resources , either in English or in Dutch,
>>> which cover the topics previously described.
>>> Indeed, I want this information to be accessible, free of charge,
>>> without any hastle, to anyone who needs it . And I want people to be
>>> able to contribute with whatever they think will benefit others
>>> without any problems.
>>> Please, point me to some of the resources you mentioned.
>> 
>>> Florian
>> 
>>> On 3 jan, 12:42, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 But there loads of local resources covering these types of things unless 
 this is for those throughout the world?  Not against this but may be you 
 will duplicate local sources of information.
>> 
 Kawal.
>> 
 On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:08 PM, Angela Delicata  
 wrote:
>> 
> very good idea.
> I'm with you and I'd like to see the site on line soon.
>> 
> Regards.
> Angela from Italy.
>> 
> --
> "La verità si ritrova sempre nella semplicità, mai nella confusione". 
> (Isaac
> Asimov).
>> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of f10r14n
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 1:04 PM
> To: MacVisionaries
> Subject: completely OT: new independence community website planned
>> 
> Hello,
>> 
> This has nothing at all to do with the mac, voiceOver, iOS or anything
> similar. If this in any way displeases you, please stop reading now.
> Still here? Nice. I would like to ask for your opinions on an idea I came 
> up
> with yesterday. Those who follow me on twitter, @zersiax is my handle, 
> will
> have already seen this.
> Yesterday I was browsing the well-known applevis website and I had an 
> idea.
> We are cataloging apps and their accessibility, workarounds for common
> problems ...why can't we do this for real-life non-digital problems?
> A lot of visually impaired people don't have the luxury of specialized
> training programs to be able to live independently. Others might not want
> to, but miss the resources they need to learn on their own.
> Why not create a website like Applevis, but with tasks and how to complete
> them? Like cleaning, making coffee, cooking, sorting laundry, picking out
> clothes?
> I think together we can build a resource that will be invaluable to a 
> large
> number of people.
> I will set up the website, do all the technical stuff. But I will need a
> community behind me. I will need people to submit content. I will need
> people to make the site grow and reach it's full potential.
> Who's with me?
>> 
> Regards,
> Florian
>> 
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Re: FaceBook iphone replacement app

[Emrah]

Marlaina,

If you are referring to the alternative app Ed Worrell recommended, it's called 
Facedekk. I found it by scrolling in your message and reading the original 
post. :)
The actual Facebook app is called Facebook.

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Albert Einstein

On Jan 3, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Could someone remind me of the name of the facebook app?  I searched for what 
> I thought it was, but can't locate it.
> 
> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
> world!
> 
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 2:24 AM, David Eagle wrote:
> 
> Hi, I downloaded the Facebook App from the Ap store on December 23rd
> and it worksfine. I'm using an IPhone 4S with IOS5 andVoice Over.
> 
> 
> On 02/01/2012, Paul Hunt  wrote:
>> I don't understand how items are sorted in Newsfeed in the app. I would like
>> them sorted by date most recent first. How can I make this happen?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 1, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Joanne Chua  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> Been using facebook for iphone app since i got my iphone which is end
>>> of 2010 and found it pretty accessible. Yes, it can be better, but i'm
>>> not aware of any inaccessible issue at all. sometime it plays up,
>>> particularly when we upgreat from IOS4 to IOS5. but soon after,
>>> facebook did another update on their app, now its all right. not 100%
>>> perhaps, but i would say i can do 90% of the tasks without any major
>>> issue.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> On 02/01/2012, CHUCK REICHEL  wrote:
 Hi David,
 Happy New Year Also!
 Its Probably that "inaccessible" "Garget Note Feature" they are talking
 about! ;)
 Talk soon
 CHUCK REICHEL
 954-742-0019
 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
 In GOD I Trust
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 1, 2012, at 6:27 PM, David Eagle wrote:
 
> Hi, happy New Year. I've been using the Facebook app on the iPhone for
> over a week now with no problems. What is inaccessible about it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 31 Dec 2011, at 19:20, 
> 
>> Hello listers, I have found a really great app to replace the Facebook
>> crap of an app. The app is called Facedekk it is made by Taknology, you
>> can search for either of these and find it in the app store. I don't
>> know
>> if it is in all the app stores I live in the United States. It is a
>> great
>> app the developers have made it fully accessible with VO, not sure if
>> this was intentional but it is great anyway, It does everything the
>> Facebook app is supposed to do. The only thing that I have found that
>> doesn't work is the settings section of the app, I did send a email to
>> the developer to see if they would fix this issue, and to see if they
>> would add push notifications to the app. The app even uses the Vo
>> gestures to back to the previous page which I missed greatly on the
>> Facebook app. It is a all around well done app. There is two versions
>> of
>> the app one that is $.99 and that is free, I have purchesed the paid
>> version.
>> 
>> Enjoy,
>> Ed
>> 
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Re: method for routing system sound output to two sources

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Emra,

Thanks for the suggestion. Will see if there is any way to get to the menubar 
items via GUI scripting. Here's a code snippet to find all items on the 
menubar. The output provides generic GUI element denominations but they also 
provide an overview of the number of menubar items one system has and these can 
be triggered in barious ways.

set appname to "System Preferences" -- Set this to the 
App you want to look at

set winstuff to "defaultval"
set menustuff to "defaultval"

tell application appname
  activate
end tell

tell application "System Events"
  tell process appname
set winstuff to entire contents of front window
set menustuff to entire contents of menu bar 1
  end tell
end tell
--return winstuff & "" & menustuff -- comment this out to get just winstuff
return winstuff -- comment this out too to get just menustuff
--return menustuff 

Obviously, this can be used for any invisible menubar item such as drop-box or 
other applications. It can be implemented.

Best regardsf 

Yuma 

On 4/01/2012, at 12:02 AM, Emrah wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Great concept!
> If my recollection is correct, SoundFlower comes packaged with an app called 
> SoundBed (or something that sounds like that). When you open up the app, it 
> creates a menu item (one of those that are not accessible with VO keys). You 
> can use your mouse to try and locate it.
> The app lets you pick an output device for everything sent to SoundFlower. 
> That will allow you to have VO speaking both through your speakers and 
> simultaneously transmitted over Skype via SoundFlower.
> 
> Good luck and hope this helps,
> Emrah
> Ps: If anybody is interested in a little bit of coding, We could work on a 
> script that would enable and disable the use of SoundFlower upon remote login 
> via Remote Desktop. 
> --
> Emrah
> 
> “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” 
> Albert Einstein
> 
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> I've tried an interesting experiment to control my mac via skype. I have one 
>> bit missing to make it fully efficient. Usually going through ssh i get 
>> across most of my needs, but some applications require full GUI control to 
>> get there quickly. And of course, most software is made for sighted users in 
>> mind and therefore believe audio capture is an annex burden for bandwidth 
>> and therefore we're left out.
>> 
>> Here's the low down.
>> 1- i create a skype account with the hostname of the server or client i wish 
>> to control abacus.blahblah.net
>> In its call settings, i set it to accept incoming calls automatically. Since 
>> it only has me as a contact, there can't be mistakes.
>> 
>> 2
>> I Use soundflower to route system sounds
>> Output To skype's input.
>> 
>> 3
>> I call the server via my laptop, connect and control it via ARD, and voilà.
>> 
>> However, since sound is routed from system, voice over being system and not 
>> a sub-channel of system, i'm left with no sound on my server. This isn't too 
>> much of an issue as i know the steps required to open system prefs, sound, 
>> output tab and switch my output device back to the mac's internal speakers.
>> 
>> It would be, however, cool if i could route system sound to both skype's 
>> input and itself. Soundflower documentation says that i can possibly do such 
>> a thing with the soundflower 16 channel mode but haven't found the right 
>> combination for it to work.
>> 
>> Anyone have any idea?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Yuma 
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explanation of how to use autocompletion and hash tags in YoruFukurou

[Marc Workman]

Hi all,

After a quick look through the archives, it seemed that the only way to deal 
with autocompletion and hash tags in YoruFukurou was to turn them off in 
preferences. Some will prefer this, but if you're trying to remember a twitter 
handle, and you know the first few letters, the autocomplete feature can be 
very useful.

Autocompletion can be used with VO.  It's a little clunky, but it works.

Once you type the "@" symbol, a list of suggestions will come up. This list 
will include every possible suggestion associated with your account, so you'll 
want to narrow it. The problem is that, if you just go ahead and start typing 
the first few letters, the cursor does not stay in the right place, so if 
you're looking for
@marcworkman
you might end up with
@arm

To make this work, you simply have to go one letter at a time, readjusting the 
cursor after each additional letter. So first type the @ symbol, then move the 
cursor to the right of the @ symbol.  Then add the letter M.  This will bring 
up a list of those handles starting with M. If this is all the filter you need, 
you can move down the list with a down arrow and press return on the handle you 
want. To filter it further, though, move the cursor to the right of the M and 
add the letter A.  Now the list only includes handles starting with MA. And 
again, press return once you've found the handle you want.

The same process works for hash tags.

I hope someone finds this useful.

Cheers,

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Re: method for routing system sound output to two sources

[Mr. L. Alexander]

Hi Yuma, that sounds great. I'll be interested in testing this out when I get 
the chance. busy at present listening to an adapted manual for my new hardware 
diagnostics system and thumbing the braille manual for some windows software I 
have to master. WE!

lew

On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:28, Yuma Decaux wrote:

> Hi Emra,
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion. Will see if there is any way to get to the menubar 
> items via GUI scripting. Here's a code snippet to find all items on the 
> menubar. The output provides generic GUI element denominations but they also 
> provide an overview of the number of menubar items one system has and these 
> can be triggered in barious ways.
> 
> set appname to "System Preferences" -- Set this to 
> the App you want to look at
> 
> set winstuff to "defaultval"
> set menustuff to "defaultval"
> 
> tell application appname
>  activate
> end tell  
> 
> tell application "System Events"
>  tell process appname
>set winstuff to entire contents of front window
>set menustuff to entire contents of menu bar 1
>  end tell
> end tell
> --return winstuff & "" & menustuff -- comment this out to get just 
> winstuff
> return winstuff -- comment this out too to get just menustuff
> --return menustuff 
> 
> Obviously, this can be used for any invisible menubar item such as drop-box 
> or other applications. It can be implemented.
> 
> Best regardsf 
> 
> Yuma 
> 
> On 4/01/2012, at 12:02 AM, Emrah wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Great concept!
>> If my recollection is correct, SoundFlower comes packaged with an app called 
>> SoundBed (or something that sounds like that). When you open up the app, it 
>> creates a menu item (one of those that are not accessible with VO keys). You 
>> can use your mouse to try and locate it.
>> The app lets you pick an output device for everything sent to SoundFlower. 
>> That will allow you to have VO speaking both through your speakers and 
>> simultaneously transmitted over Skype via SoundFlower.
>> 
>> Good luck and hope this helps,
>> Emrah
>> Ps: If anybody is interested in a little bit of coding, We could work on a 
>> script that would enable and disable the use of SoundFlower upon remote 
>> login via Remote Desktop. 
>> --
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>> 
>> “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” 
>> Albert Einstein
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> 
>>> I've tried an interesting experiment to control my mac via skype. I have 
>>> one bit missing to make it fully efficient. Usually going through ssh i get 
>>> across most of my needs, but some applications require full GUI control to 
>>> get there quickly. And of course, most software is made for sighted users 
>>> in mind and therefore believe audio capture is an annex burden for 
>>> bandwidth and therefore we're left out.
>>> 
>>> Here's the low down.
>>> 1- i create a skype account with the hostname of the server or client i 
>>> wish to control abacus.blahblah.net
>>> In its call settings, i set it to accept incoming calls automatically. 
>>> Since it only has me as a contact, there can't be mistakes.
>>> 
>>> 2
>>> I Use soundflower to route system sounds
>>> Output To skype's input.
>>> 
>>> 3
>>> I call the server via my laptop, connect and control it via ARD, and voilà.
>>> 
>>> However, since sound is routed from system, voice over being system and not 
>>> a sub-channel of system, i'm left with no sound on my server. This isn't 
>>> too much of an issue as i know the steps required to open system prefs, 
>>> sound, output tab and switch my output device back to the mac's internal 
>>> speakers.
>>> 
>>> It would be, however, cool if i could route system sound to both skype's 
>>> input and itself. Soundflower documentation says that i can possibly do 
>>> such a thing with the soundflower 16 channel mode but haven't found the 
>>> right combination for it to work.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have any idea?
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Yuma 
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Re: iTunes question re external file server

[Marlaina Lieberg]

Ok, so if I launch iTunes and I'm away from home, when I return I must change 
the library location each time after I've been somewhere?  The thing is, I 
don't want all that music on my MBP or my Mac Air.

Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the world!

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On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

I think a higher level description is that iTunes will store your preference of 
library location and use it from then on when you launch. But, if it can't find 
your new special location (because it doesn't exist for some reason) it will 
revert back to using the standard location. So if you have an external hard 
drive or network mounted drive for your iTunes library you will need to make 
sure that is connected/mounted first and then launch iTunes. Otherwise it will 
silently fail and go back to its old ways.

CB

On 1/2/12 7:49 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Go to the desktop/finder. Press command + k. This opens the network 
> connection dialog. Enter in the server name or the IP address of the server. 
> EG:
> 
> smb://192.168.1.1
> 
> 
> This will open a new dialog. If a username/password is required, you will be 
> prompted. If none is required, then you will get a dialog showing the 
> available shared directories available.
> 
> 
> I hope the above helps.
> 
> Sean
> On 03/01/2012, at 11:04 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Sean,
>> 
>> Thank you so much but how do I do this?  I don't even know where 
>> /volumes/directory is located or how to find it, not to mention what to do 
>> if the external server drive is not mounted.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>> world!
>> 
>> Marlaina Lieberg
>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 1, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Make sure the external drive is mounted first. All mounted volumes are in 
>> /volumes directory.
>> 
>> 
>> Sean
>> On 02/01/2012, at 10:46 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> Can anybody tell me why neither my Air nor my MBP will believe me when I 
>>> tell them I want my libraries in iTunes located on my external server?  I 
>>> keep having to change this each time I open iTunes, no matter which machine 
>>> I use.
>>> 
>>> I have other questions about iTunes match, but will hold off on them.
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much and happy holidays to all!
>>> 
>>> MarlainaD
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May seem off topic but not, need Win 7 info

[Bill Holton]

Hi.

I am trying to run some diagnostics for my mac to help the tech support
people, but they have to be run with Putty so I can run them from my pc and
logged into my mac.  Problem is, thney need a log of everything that goes
on.  Any one know if Putty can be run in a command line or otherwise so when
it's over I can get a text file of the entire session?  Thank.

 

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Re: iTunes question re external file server

[Mr. L. Alexander]

I agree with chris here.

I wonder though if you can log into your main host via HTTPS or something like 
that so that you could log into your machine or storage device and still have 
an active host or directory structure for itunes.

hmm will look into this.

Going back to my work as an IT engineer from a windows (picks up bin, spits 
"Ding") standpoint, logging into a host whilst on the road can be achieved so 
that you can gain access to data there and then. it's what's used by us IT 
specialists for dialing into dying systems to fault find before we arrive or to 
perform instructions to set up emergency server actions. like win server 2003, 
etc. YUCK!

it's been a while lol but I'm sure if you set up your storage system (NAS) with 
say a mac as a connection, you could connect directly, setting up your MBP 
itunes directory to connect to "Source directory of NAS" if possible.

lew

On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:43, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Ok, so if I launch iTunes and I'm away from home, when I return I must change 
> the library location each time after I've been somewhere?  The thing is, I 
> don't want all that music on my MBP or my Mac Air.
> 
> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
> world!
> 
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
> I think a higher level description is that iTunes will store your preference 
> of library location and use it from then on when you launch. But, if it can't 
> find your new special location (because it doesn't exist for some reason) it 
> will revert back to using the standard location. So if you have an external 
> hard drive or network mounted drive for your iTunes library you will need to 
> make sure that is connected/mounted first and then launch iTunes. Otherwise 
> it will silently fail and go back to its old ways.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/2/12 7:49 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Go to the desktop/finder. Press command + k. This opens the network 
>> connection dialog. Enter in the server name or the IP address of the server. 
>> EG:
>> 
>> smb://192.168.1.1
>> 
>> 
>> This will open a new dialog. If a username/password is required, you will be 
>> prompted. If none is required, then you will get a dialog showing the 
>> available shared directories available.
>> 
>> 
>> I hope the above helps.
>> 
>> Sean
>> On 03/01/2012, at 11:04 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Sean,
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much but how do I do this?  I don't even know where 
>>> /volumes/directory is located or how to find it, not to mention what to do 
>>> if the external server drive is not mounted.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>>> world!
>>> 
>>> Marlaina Lieberg
>>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Make sure the external drive is mounted first. All mounted volumes are in 
>>> /volumes directory.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> On 02/01/2012, at 10:46 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all.
 
 Can anybody tell me why neither my Air nor my MBP will believe me when I 
 tell them I want my libraries in iTunes located on my external server?  I 
 keep having to change this each time I open iTunes, no matter which 
 machine I use.
 
 I have other questions about iTunes match, but will hold off on them.
 
 Thanks so much and happy holidays to all!
 
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Re: May seem off topic but not, need Win 7 info

[Mr. L. Alexander]

they can also use techtool pro information.

If it was me, I'd be taking over diagnostics from boot using techtool pro, 
sending data to a remote system and pushing it to colleagues.

I hope you don't mind, would you email me off list to discuss the problems 
you're having? I'd be more than happy to assist where I can. I've some time 
spare.

lew

On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:45, Bill Holton wrote:

> Hi.
> I am trying to run some diagnostics for my mac to help the tech support 
> people, but they have to be run with Putty so I can run them from my pc and 
> logged into my mac.  Problem is, thney need a log of everything that goes on. 
>  Any one know if Putty can be run in a command line or otherwise so when it’s 
> over I can get a text file of the entire session?  Thank.
>  
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Re: FaceBook iphone replacement app

[Marlaina Lieberg]

I did try scrolling in the message and for some reason, after the post just 
below the one I'm reading, all others are truncated.  Thanks for reminding me 
of the name!

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On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Emrah wrote:

Marlaina,

If you are referring to the alternative app Ed Worrell recommended, it's called 
Facedekk. I found it by scrolling in your message and reading the original 
post. :)
The actual Facebook app is called Facebook.

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On Jan 3, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Could someone remind me of the name of the facebook app?  I searched for what 
> I thought it was, but can't locate it.
> 
> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
> world!
> 
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 2:24 AM, David Eagle wrote:
> 
> Hi, I downloaded the Facebook App from the Ap store on December 23rd
> and it worksfine. I'm using an IPhone 4S with IOS5 andVoice Over.
> 
> 
> On 02/01/2012, Paul Hunt  wrote:
>> I don't understand how items are sorted in Newsfeed in the app. I would like
>> them sorted by date most recent first. How can I make this happen?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 1, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Joanne Chua  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> Been using facebook for iphone app since i got my iphone which is end
>>> of 2010 and found it pretty accessible. Yes, it can be better, but i'm
>>> not aware of any inaccessible issue at all. sometime it plays up,
>>> particularly when we upgreat from IOS4 to IOS5. but soon after,
>>> facebook did another update on their app, now its all right. not 100%
>>> perhaps, but i would say i can do 90% of the tasks without any major
>>> issue.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> On 02/01/2012, CHUCK REICHEL  wrote:
 Hi David,
 Happy New Year Also!
 Its Probably that "inaccessible" "Garget Note Feature" they are talking
 about! ;)
 Talk soon
 CHUCK REICHEL
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 In GOD I Trust
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 1, 2012, at 6:27 PM, David Eagle wrote:
 
> Hi, happy New Year. I've been using the Facebook app on the iPhone for
> over a week now with no problems. What is inaccessible about it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 31 Dec 2011, at 19:20, 
> 
>> Hello listers, I have found a really great app to replace the Facebook
>> crap of an app. The app is called Facedekk it is made by Taknology, you
>> can search for either of these and find it in the app store. I don't
>> know
>> if it is in all the app stores I live in the United States. It is a
>> great
>> app the developers have made it fully accessible with VO, not sure if
>> this was intentional but it is great anyway, It does everything the
>> Facebook app is supposed to do. The only thing that I have found that
>> doesn't work is the settings section of the app, I did send a email to
>> the developer to see if they would fix this issue, and to see if they
>> would add push notifications to the app. The app even uses the Vo
>> gestures to back to the previous page which I missed greatly on the
>> Facebook app. It is a all around well done app. There is two versions
>> of
>> the app one that is $.99 and that is free, I have purchesed the paid
>> version.
>> 
>> Enjoy,
>> Ed
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Re: uncompressing files

[Chris Blouch]

Not sure how to do it as a multipart zip but you can split any file 
using the command line in terminal:


split -b 300m source.zip destination.zip.split

That should generate a series of files, each 300MB in size until all of 
the source file is stored in the splits. Each split file will get a 
couple letters appended like aa, ab, ac etc.


To put them all back together you use the cat command:

cat source.zip.split* > source.zip

CB

On 12/28/11 11:44 PM, Gerry Cook wrote:
Hi everyone. How can i uncompress a multipart zip file, and also how 
can i create a multible part zip file archive so that each part is no 
greater than 300 mb for send space. Your help would be greatly 
appreciated.

Gerry Cook
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Re: iTunes question re external file server

[Marlaina Lieberg]

Yikes, I'm drowning!  I think I just have to keep switching back and forth, 
what a pain!

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On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

I agree with chris here.

I wonder though if you can log into your main host via HTTPS or something like 
that so that you could log into your machine or storage device and still have 
an active host or directory structure for itunes.

hmm will look into this.

Going back to my work as an IT engineer from a windows (picks up bin, spits 
"Ding") standpoint, logging into a host whilst on the road can be achieved so 
that you can gain access to data there and then. it's what's used by us IT 
specialists for dialing into dying systems to fault find before we arrive or to 
perform instructions to set up emergency server actions. like win server 2003, 
etc. YUCK!

it's been a while lol but I'm sure if you set up your storage system (NAS) with 
say a mac as a connection, you could connect directly, setting up your MBP 
itunes directory to connect to "Source directory of NAS" if possible.

lew

On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:43, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Ok, so if I launch iTunes and I'm away from home, when I return I must change 
> the library location each time after I've been somewhere?  The thing is, I 
> don't want all that music on my MBP or my Mac Air.
> 
> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
> world!
> 
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
> I think a higher level description is that iTunes will store your preference 
> of library location and use it from then on when you launch. But, if it can't 
> find your new special location (because it doesn't exist for some reason) it 
> will revert back to using the standard location. So if you have an external 
> hard drive or network mounted drive for your iTunes library you will need to 
> make sure that is connected/mounted first and then launch iTunes. Otherwise 
> it will silently fail and go back to its old ways.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/2/12 7:49 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Go to the desktop/finder. Press command + k. This opens the network 
>> connection dialog. Enter in the server name or the IP address of the server. 
>> EG:
>> 
>> smb://192.168.1.1
>> 
>> 
>> This will open a new dialog. If a username/password is required, you will be 
>> prompted. If none is required, then you will get a dialog showing the 
>> available shared directories available.
>> 
>> 
>> I hope the above helps.
>> 
>> Sean
>> On 03/01/2012, at 11:04 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Sean,
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much but how do I do this?  I don't even know where 
>>> /volumes/directory is located or how to find it, not to mention what to do 
>>> if the external server drive is not mounted.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>>> world!
>>> 
>>> Marlaina Lieberg
>>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Make sure the external drive is mounted first. All mounted volumes are in 
>>> /volumes directory.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> On 02/01/2012, at 10:46 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all.
 
 Can anybody tell me why neither my Air nor my MBP will believe me when I 
 tell them I want my libraries in iTunes located on my external server?  I 
 keep having to change this each time I open iTunes, no matter which 
 machine I use.
 
 I have other questions about iTunes match, but will hold off on them.
 
 Thanks so much and happy holidays to all!
 
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Re: iTunes question re external file server

[Mr. L. Alexander]

I have an idea. but before I present the idea to you lol, just clarify what 
machine you're using, disk space, what music you want? etc just so I can walk 
through the issue with you. lol.

I use my MBP as an all in 1 system. audio handling, systems tools, data 
management, the lot. 500gb drive and still have 400gb left lol. the 100gb 
between system, software, 30gb of itunes at full spec conversion, etc. I have 
an emergency 120gb sata notebook drive in a caddy just in case.

perhaps, why not simplify things.. rather than go and connect to a host to 
download and access media, why not just use your MBP hard drive for the lot. 
itunes will still love you either way. why make something hard lol.

sorry. brain being powered by foot pump today lol

lew

On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:56, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Yikes, I'm drowning!  I think I just have to keep switching back and forth, 
> what a pain!
> 
> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
> world!
> 
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
> 
> I agree with chris here.
> 
> I wonder though if you can log into your main host via HTTPS or something 
> like that so that you could log into your machine or storage device and still 
> have an active host or directory structure for itunes.
> 
> hmm will look into this.
> 
> Going back to my work as an IT engineer from a windows (picks up bin, spits 
> "Ding") standpoint, logging into a host whilst on the road can be achieved so 
> that you can gain access to data there and then. it's what's used by us IT 
> specialists for dialing into dying systems to fault find before we arrive or 
> to perform instructions to set up emergency server actions. like win server 
> 2003, etc. YUCK!
> 
> it's been a while lol but I'm sure if you set up your storage system (NAS) 
> with say a mac as a connection, you could connect directly, setting up your 
> MBP itunes directory to connect to "Source directory of NAS" if possible.
> 
> lew
> 
> On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:43, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Ok, so if I launch iTunes and I'm away from home, when I return I must 
>> change the library location each time after I've been somewhere?  The thing 
>> is, I don't want all that music on my MBP or my Mac Air.
>> 
>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>> world!
>> 
>> Marlaina Lieberg
>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>> I think a higher level description is that iTunes will store your preference 
>> of library location and use it from then on when you launch. But, if it 
>> can't find your new special location (because it doesn't exist for some 
>> reason) it will revert back to using the standard location. So if you have 
>> an external hard drive or network mounted drive for your iTunes library you 
>> will need to make sure that is connected/mounted first and then launch 
>> iTunes. Otherwise it will silently fail and go back to its old ways.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 1/2/12 7:49 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Go to the desktop/finder. Press command + k. This opens the network 
>>> connection dialog. Enter in the server name or the IP address of the 
>>> server. EG:
>>> 
>>> smb://192.168.1.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This will open a new dialog. If a username/password is required, you will 
>>> be prompted. If none is required, then you will get a dialog showing the 
>>> available shared directories available.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I hope the above helps.
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> On 03/01/2012, at 11:04 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> 
 Sean,
 
 Thank you so much but how do I do this?  I don't even know where 
 /volumes/directory is located or how to find it, not to mention what to do 
 if the external server drive is not mounted.
 
 
 
 Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
 world!
 
 Marlaina Lieberg
 1guide...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Jan 1, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Make sure the external drive is mounted first. All mounted volumes are in 
 /volumes directory.
 
 
 Sean
 On 02/01/2012, at 10:46 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
 
> Hi all.
> 
> Can anybody tell me why neither my Air nor my MBP will believe me when I 
> tell them I want my libraries in iTunes located on my external server?  I 
> keep having to change this each time I open iTunes, no matter which 
> machine I use.
> 
> I have other questions about iTunes match, but will hold off on them.
> 
> Thanks so much and happy holidays to all!
> 
> MarlainaD
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RE: May seem off topic but not, need Win 7 info

[Bill Holton]

Can you send along an addres, or send me a direct message at

b...@bholton.com

 

Thanks.

 

 

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Subject: Re: May seem off topic but not, need Win 7 info

 

they can also use techtool pro information.

 

If it was me, I'd be taking over diagnostics from boot using techtool pro,
sending data to a remote system and pushing it to colleagues.

 

I hope you don't mind, would you email me off list to discuss the problems
you're having? I'd be more than happy to assist where I can. I've some time
spare.

 

lew

 

On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:45, Bill Holton wrote:





Hi.

I am trying to run some diagnostics for my mac to help the tech support
people, but they have to be run with Putty so I can run them from my pc and
logged into my mac.  Problem is, thney need a log of everything that goes
on.  Any one know if Putty can be run in a command line or otherwise so when
it's over I can get a text file of the entire session?  Thank.

 

 

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Re: iTunes question re external file server

[Marlaina Lieberg]

Ok.  Here's the deal.  I use an MBP and a Mac Air.  My husband uses his own MBP 
and iPad.  We have all our music stored on a netgeer external server.  I know 
it would be easiest if I had it all in one place and I thought that would 
happen once I signed up for iTunes Match, but that has served to put only 300 
songs on my iPhone which I didn't want it to do, but my library has more than 
3,000 songs so even if I did want them on my iPhone, I still have only a tenth 
of them.  However, the iPhone is a problem for another post.

Marlaina

Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the world!

Marlaina Lieberg
1guide...@gmail.com



On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

I have an idea. but before I present the idea to you lol, just clarify what 
machine you're using, disk space, what music you want? etc just so I can walk 
through the issue with you. lol.

I use my MBP as an all in 1 system. audio handling, systems tools, data 
management, the lot. 500gb drive and still have 400gb left lol. the 100gb 
between system, software, 30gb of itunes at full spec conversion, etc. I have 
an emergency 120gb sata notebook drive in a caddy just in case.

perhaps, why not simplify things.. rather than go and connect to a host to 
download and access media, why not just use your MBP hard drive for the lot. 
itunes will still love you either way. why make something hard lol.

sorry. brain being powered by foot pump today lol

lew

On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:56, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Yikes, I'm drowning!  I think I just have to keep switching back and forth, 
> what a pain!
> 
> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
> world!
> 
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
> 
> I agree with chris here.
> 
> I wonder though if you can log into your main host via HTTPS or something 
> like that so that you could log into your machine or storage device and still 
> have an active host or directory structure for itunes.
> 
> hmm will look into this.
> 
> Going back to my work as an IT engineer from a windows (picks up bin, spits 
> "Ding") standpoint, logging into a host whilst on the road can be achieved so 
> that you can gain access to data there and then. it's what's used by us IT 
> specialists for dialing into dying systems to fault find before we arrive or 
> to perform instructions to set up emergency server actions. like win server 
> 2003, etc. YUCK!
> 
> it's been a while lol but I'm sure if you set up your storage system (NAS) 
> with say a mac as a connection, you could connect directly, setting up your 
> MBP itunes directory to connect to "Source directory of NAS" if possible.
> 
> lew
> 
> On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:43, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Ok, so if I launch iTunes and I'm away from home, when I return I must 
>> change the library location each time after I've been somewhere?  The thing 
>> is, I don't want all that music on my MBP or my Mac Air.
>> 
>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>> world!
>> 
>> Marlaina Lieberg
>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>> I think a higher level description is that iTunes will store your preference 
>> of library location and use it from then on when you launch. But, if it 
>> can't find your new special location (because it doesn't exist for some 
>> reason) it will revert back to using the standard location. So if you have 
>> an external hard drive or network mounted drive for your iTunes library you 
>> will need to make sure that is connected/mounted first and then launch 
>> iTunes. Otherwise it will silently fail and go back to its old ways.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 1/2/12 7:49 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Go to the desktop/finder. Press command + k. This opens the network 
>>> connection dialog. Enter in the server name or the IP address of the 
>>> server. EG:
>>> 
>>> smb://192.168.1.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This will open a new dialog. If a username/password is required, you will 
>>> be prompted. If none is required, then you will get a dialog showing the 
>>> available shared directories available.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I hope the above helps.
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> On 03/01/2012, at 11:04 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> 
 Sean,
 
 Thank you so much but how do I do this?  I don't even know where 
 /volumes/directory is located or how to find it, not to mention what to do 
 if the external server drive is not mounted.
 
 
 
 Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
 world!
 
 Marlaina Lieberg
 1guide...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Jan 1, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Make sure the external drive is mounted first. All mounted volumes are in 
 /volumes directory.
 
 
 Sean
 On 02/01/2012, at 10:46 AM, Ma

Re: iTunes question re external file server

[Mr. L. Alexander]

solved your problem... drum roll please.

lets say your music server is about 60gb or so in size, abandon itunes match 
and just use itunes as is.

each system should benefit from a direct copy of the contents of the itunes 
server drive you've built, ergo no connection to a network unless necessary.

the simple action is this...

from your server, assuming you have built an itunes folder in the NAS drive, 
copy the contents of that drive to the itunes folder of each machine. OK it's 
disk space but if you're like me and don't need the hassle of tandem drives, 
this is the best way. this also resolves the issue of what may be happening on 
your iphone.

it's a decent and direct solution which won't screw up your workstation nor 
slow things down.

lew

On 3 Jan 2012, at 20:19, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Ok.  Here's the deal.  I use an MBP and a Mac Air.  My husband uses his own 
> MBP and iPad.  We have all our music stored on a netgeer external server.  I 
> know it would be easiest if I had it all in one place and I thought that 
> would happen once I signed up for iTunes Match, but that has served to put 
> only 300 songs on my iPhone which I didn't want it to do, but my library has 
> more than 3,000 songs so even if I did want them on my iPhone, I still have 
> only a tenth of them.  However, the iPhone is a problem for another post.
> 
> Marlaina
> 
> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
> world!
> 
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
> 
> I have an idea. but before I present the idea to you lol, just clarify what 
> machine you're using, disk space, what music you want? etc just so I can walk 
> through the issue with you. lol.
> 
> I use my MBP as an all in 1 system. audio handling, systems tools, data 
> management, the lot. 500gb drive and still have 400gb left lol. the 100gb 
> between system, software, 30gb of itunes at full spec conversion, etc. I have 
> an emergency 120gb sata notebook drive in a caddy just in case.
> 
> perhaps, why not simplify things.. rather than go and connect to a host to 
> download and access media, why not just use your MBP hard drive for the lot. 
> itunes will still love you either way. why make something hard lol.
> 
> sorry. brain being powered by foot pump today lol
> 
> lew
> 
> On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:56, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Yikes, I'm drowning!  I think I just have to keep switching back and forth, 
>> what a pain!
>> 
>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>> world!
>> 
>> Marlaina Lieberg
>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>> 
>> I agree with chris here.
>> 
>> I wonder though if you can log into your main host via HTTPS or something 
>> like that so that you could log into your machine or storage device and 
>> still have an active host or directory structure for itunes.
>> 
>> hmm will look into this.
>> 
>> Going back to my work as an IT engineer from a windows (picks up bin, spits 
>> "Ding") standpoint, logging into a host whilst on the road can be achieved 
>> so that you can gain access to data there and then. it's what's used by us 
>> IT specialists for dialing into dying systems to fault find before we arrive 
>> or to perform instructions to set up emergency server actions. like win 
>> server 2003, etc. YUCK!
>> 
>> it's been a while lol but I'm sure if you set up your storage system (NAS) 
>> with say a mac as a connection, you could connect directly, setting up your 
>> MBP itunes directory to connect to "Source directory of NAS" if possible.
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:43, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, so if I launch iTunes and I'm away from home, when I return I must 
>>> change the library location each time after I've been somewhere?  The thing 
>>> is, I don't want all that music on my MBP or my Mac Air.
>>> 
>>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>>> world!
>>> 
>>> Marlaina Lieberg
>>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think a higher level description is that iTunes will store your 
>>> preference of library location and use it from then on when you launch. 
>>> But, if it can't find your new special location (because it doesn't exist 
>>> for some reason) it will revert back to using the standard location. So if 
>>> you have an external hard drive or network mounted drive for your iTunes 
>>> library you will need to make sure that is connected/mounted first and then 
>>> launch iTunes. Otherwise it will silently fail and go back to its old ways.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 1/2/12 7:49 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Go to the desktop/finder. Press command + k. This opens the network 
 connection dialog. Enter in the server name or the IP address of the 
 server. EG:
 
 smb://192.16

Re: iTunes question re external file server

[Chris Blouch]

Yup. I'm not sure how else it could behave. If it can't find the NAS it 
has to go somewhere to get its track list and generally users will want 
iTunes to keep setting that work rather than ones which fail. So opening 
iTunes without the NAS will fail and iTunes will 'fix' it for you by 
going back to your local drive. That said, you could make an alias to 
the NAS in a more convenient location. That way it wouldn't be as much 
work to point back to the network drive once it's mounted again. I'm 
sure somebody has probably written an Applescript for this situation.


That said, there are others who have the same issue and figured out some 
hackery to work around it:


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2672590?start=0&tstart=0

I haven't tested this since I don't have my music on a NAS but they are 
saying to make the


/Users/your_name/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music

an alias to the NAS so when iTunes defaults back it still goes to the 
right place and just fails like you want when the NAS is not there.


CB

On 1/3/12 2:43 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

Ok, so if I launch iTunes and I'm away from home, when I return I must change 
the library location each time after I've been somewhere?  The thing is, I 
don't want all that music on my MBP or my Mac Air.

Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the world!

Marlaina Lieberg
1guide...@gmail.com



On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

I think a higher level description is that iTunes will store your preference of 
library location and use it from then on when you launch. But, if it can't find 
your new special location (because it doesn't exist for some reason) it will 
revert back to using the standard location. So if you have an external hard 
drive or network mounted drive for your iTunes library you will need to make 
sure that is connected/mounted first and then launch iTunes. Otherwise it will 
silently fail and go back to its old ways.

CB

On 1/2/12 7:49 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:

Hi,

Go to the desktop/finder. Press command + k. This opens the network connection 
dialog. Enter in the server name or the IP address of the server. EG:

smb://192.168.1.1


This will open a new dialog. If a username/password is required, you will be 
prompted. If none is required, then you will get a dialog showing the available 
shared directories available.


I hope the above helps.

Sean
On 03/01/2012, at 11:04 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:


Sean,

Thank you so much but how do I do this?  I don't even know where 
/volumes/directory is located or how to find it, not to mention what to do if 
the external server drive is not mounted.



Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the world!

Marlaina Lieberg
1guide...@gmail.com



On Jan 1, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:

Hi,

Make sure the external drive is mounted first. All mounted volumes are in 
/volumes directory.


Sean
On 02/01/2012, at 10:46 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:


Hi all.

Can anybody tell me why neither my Air nor my MBP will believe me when I tell 
them I want my libraries in iTunes located on my external server?  I keep 
having to change this each time I open iTunes, no matter which machine I use.

I have other questions about iTunes match, but will hold off on them.

Thanks so much and happy holidays to all!

MarlainaD

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Re: iTunes question re external file server

[Marlaina Lieberg]

Thanks; I'll have a play with this.

Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the world!

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On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

Yup. I'm not sure how else it could behave. If it can't find the NAS it has to 
go somewhere to get its track list and generally users will want iTunes to keep 
setting that work rather than ones which fail. So opening iTunes without the 
NAS will fail and iTunes will 'fix' it for you by going back to your local 
drive. That said, you could make an alias to the NAS in a more convenient 
location. That way it wouldn't be as much work to point back to the network 
drive once it's mounted again. I'm sure somebody has probably written an 
Applescript for this situation.

That said, there are others who have the same issue and figured out some 
hackery to work around it:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2672590?start=0&tstart=0

I haven't tested this since I don't have my music on a NAS but they are saying 
to make the

/Users/your_name/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music

an alias to the NAS so when iTunes defaults back it still goes to the right 
place and just fails like you want when the NAS is not there.

CB

On 1/3/12 2:43 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> Ok, so if I launch iTunes and I'm away from home, when I return I must change 
> the library location each time after I've been somewhere?  The thing is, I 
> don't want all that music on my MBP or my Mac Air.
> 
> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
> world!
> 
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
> I think a higher level description is that iTunes will store your preference 
> of library location and use it from then on when you launch. But, if it can't 
> find your new special location (because it doesn't exist for some reason) it 
> will revert back to using the standard location. So if you have an external 
> hard drive or network mounted drive for your iTunes library you will need to 
> make sure that is connected/mounted first and then launch iTunes. Otherwise 
> it will silently fail and go back to its old ways.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/2/12 7:49 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Go to the desktop/finder. Press command + k. This opens the network 
>> connection dialog. Enter in the server name or the IP address of the server. 
>> EG:
>> 
>> smb://192.168.1.1
>> 
>> 
>> This will open a new dialog. If a username/password is required, you will be 
>> prompted. If none is required, then you will get a dialog showing the 
>> available shared directories available.
>> 
>> 
>> I hope the above helps.
>> 
>> Sean
>> On 03/01/2012, at 11:04 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Sean,
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much but how do I do this?  I don't even know where 
>>> /volumes/directory is located or how to find it, not to mention what to do 
>>> if the external server drive is not mounted.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>>> world!
>>> 
>>> Marlaina Lieberg
>>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Make sure the external drive is mounted first. All mounted volumes are in 
>>> /volumes directory.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> On 02/01/2012, at 10:46 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all.
 
 Can anybody tell me why neither my Air nor my MBP will believe me when I 
 tell them I want my libraries in iTunes located on my external server?  I 
 keep having to change this each time I open iTunes, no matter which 
 machine I use.
 
 I have other questions about iTunes match, but will hold off on them.
 
 Thanks so much and happy holidays to all!
 
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Re: iTunes question re external file server

[Marlaina Lieberg]

Ok then just what is iTunes Match?  i thought it would centralize all my music 
in the cloud and I'd be able to get it from any machine on which I have iTunes.

Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the world!

Marlaina Lieberg
1guide...@gmail.com



On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

solved your problem... drum roll please.

lets say your music server is about 60gb or so in size, abandon itunes match 
and just use itunes as is.

each system should benefit from a direct copy of the contents of the itunes 
server drive you've built, ergo no connection to a network unless necessary.

the simple action is this...

from your server, assuming you have built an itunes folder in the NAS drive, 
copy the contents of that drive to the itunes folder of each machine. OK it's 
disk space but if you're like me and don't need the hassle of tandem drives, 
this is the best way. this also resolves the issue of what may be happening on 
your iphone.

it's a decent and direct solution which won't screw up your workstation nor 
slow things down.

lew

On 3 Jan 2012, at 20:19, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Ok.  Here's the deal.  I use an MBP and a Mac Air.  My husband uses his own 
> MBP and iPad.  We have all our music stored on a netgeer external server.  I 
> know it would be easiest if I had it all in one place and I thought that 
> would happen once I signed up for iTunes Match, but that has served to put 
> only 300 songs on my iPhone which I didn't want it to do, but my library has 
> more than 3,000 songs so even if I did want them on my iPhone, I still have 
> only a tenth of them.  However, the iPhone is a problem for another post.
> 
> Marlaina
> 
> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
> world!
> 
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
> 
> I have an idea. but before I present the idea to you lol, just clarify what 
> machine you're using, disk space, what music you want? etc just so I can walk 
> through the issue with you. lol.
> 
> I use my MBP as an all in 1 system. audio handling, systems tools, data 
> management, the lot. 500gb drive and still have 400gb left lol. the 100gb 
> between system, software, 30gb of itunes at full spec conversion, etc. I have 
> an emergency 120gb sata notebook drive in a caddy just in case.
> 
> perhaps, why not simplify things.. rather than go and connect to a host to 
> download and access media, why not just use your MBP hard drive for the lot. 
> itunes will still love you either way. why make something hard lol.
> 
> sorry. brain being powered by foot pump today lol
> 
> lew
> 
> On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:56, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Yikes, I'm drowning!  I think I just have to keep switching back and forth, 
>> what a pain!
>> 
>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>> world!
>> 
>> Marlaina Lieberg
>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>> 
>> I agree with chris here.
>> 
>> I wonder though if you can log into your main host via HTTPS or something 
>> like that so that you could log into your machine or storage device and 
>> still have an active host or directory structure for itunes.
>> 
>> hmm will look into this.
>> 
>> Going back to my work as an IT engineer from a windows (picks up bin, spits 
>> "Ding") standpoint, logging into a host whilst on the road can be achieved 
>> so that you can gain access to data there and then. it's what's used by us 
>> IT specialists for dialing into dying systems to fault find before we arrive 
>> or to perform instructions to set up emergency server actions. like win 
>> server 2003, etc. YUCK!
>> 
>> it's been a while lol but I'm sure if you set up your storage system (NAS) 
>> with say a mac as a connection, you could connect directly, setting up your 
>> MBP itunes directory to connect to "Source directory of NAS" if possible.
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:43, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, so if I launch iTunes and I'm away from home, when I return I must 
>>> change the library location each time after I've been somewhere?  The thing 
>>> is, I don't want all that music on my MBP or my Mac Air.
>>> 
>>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>>> world!
>>> 
>>> Marlaina Lieberg
>>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think a higher level description is that iTunes will store your 
>>> preference of library location and use it from then on when you launch. 
>>> But, if it can't find your new special location (because it doesn't exist 
>>> for some reason) it will revert back to using the standard location. So if 
>>> you have an external hard drive or network mounted drive for your iTunes 
>>> library you will need to make sure that is connected/mounted first and then 
>>> lau

Re: iTunes question re external file server

[Charlie Doremus]

ever device you want to share music with must have iTunes Match activated.

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Ok then just what is iTunes Match?  i thought it would centralize all my
> music in the cloud and I'd be able to get it from any machine on which I
> have iTunes.
>
> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the
> world!
>
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 1guide...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>
> solved your problem... drum roll please.
>
> lets say your music server is about 60gb or so in size, abandon itunes
> match and just use itunes as is.
>
> each system should benefit from a direct copy of the contents of the
> itunes server drive you've built, ergo no connection to a network unless
> necessary.
>
> the simple action is this...
>
> from your server, assuming you have built an itunes folder in the NAS
> drive, copy the contents of that drive to the itunes folder of each
> machine. OK it's disk space but if you're like me and don't need the hassle
> of tandem drives, this is the best way. this also resolves the issue of
> what may be happening on your iphone.
>
> it's a decent and direct solution which won't screw up your workstation
> nor slow things down.
>
> lew
>
> On 3 Jan 2012, at 20:19, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>
> > Ok.  Here's the deal.  I use an MBP and a Mac Air.  My husband uses his
> own MBP and iPad.  We have all our music stored on a netgeer external
> server.  I know it would be easiest if I had it all in one place and I
> thought that would happen once I signed up for iTunes Match, but that has
> served to put only 300 songs on my iPhone which I didn't want it to do, but
> my library has more than 3,000 songs so even if I did want them on my
> iPhone, I still have only a tenth of them.  However, the iPhone is a
> problem for another post.
> >
> > Marlaina
> >
> > Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the
> world!
> >
> > Marlaina Lieberg
> > 1guide...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
> >
> > I have an idea. but before I present the idea to you lol, just clarify
> what machine you're using, disk space, what music you want? etc just so I
> can walk through the issue with you. lol.
> >
> > I use my MBP as an all in 1 system. audio handling, systems tools, data
> management, the lot. 500gb drive and still have 400gb left lol. the 100gb
> between system, software, 30gb of itunes at full spec conversion, etc. I
> have an emergency 120gb sata notebook drive in a caddy just in case.
> >
> > perhaps, why not simplify things.. rather than go and connect to a host
> to download and access media, why not just use your MBP hard drive for the
> lot. itunes will still love you either way. why make something hard lol.
> >
> > sorry. brain being powered by foot pump today lol
> >
> > lew
> >
> > On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:56, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> >
> >> Yikes, I'm drowning!  I think I just have to keep switching back and
> forth, what a pain!
> >>
> >> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with
> the world!
> >>
> >> Marlaina Lieberg
> >> 1guide...@gmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
> >>
> >> I agree with chris here.
> >>
> >> I wonder though if you can log into your main host via HTTPS or
> something like that so that you could log into your machine or storage
> device and still have an active host or directory structure for itunes.
> >>
> >> hmm will look into this.
> >>
> >> Going back to my work as an IT engineer from a windows (picks up bin,
> spits "Ding") standpoint, logging into a host whilst on the road can be
> achieved so that you can gain access to data there and then. it's what's
> used by us IT specialists for dialing into dying systems to fault find
> before we arrive or to perform instructions to set up emergency server
> actions. like win server 2003, etc. YUCK!
> >>
> >> it's been a while lol but I'm sure if you set up your storage system
> (NAS) with say a mac as a connection, you could connect directly, setting
> up your MBP itunes directory to connect to "Source directory of NAS" if
> possible.
> >>
> >> lew
> >>
> >> On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:43, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok, so if I launch iTunes and I'm away from home, when I return I must
> change the library location each time after I've been somewhere?  The thing
> is, I don't want all that music on my MBP or my Mac Air.
> >>>
> >>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with
> the world!
> >>>
> >>> Marlaina Lieberg
> >>> 1guide...@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think a higher level description is that iTunes will store your
> preference of library location and use it from then on when you launch.
> But, if it can't find your new special location (because it doesn't

Re: RSS

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi Mark,

I just use the built in rss reader in apple mail on the mac.  I like it since 
it's just right there in your mail, no muss, no fuss.  You just add the feed 
when you're on the page for it.  On the i devices, I use feeder rss reader.  
It's a bit fiddley, and I use the free version, but it's useable.  The snag is 
with that one you've got to know the address of the feed you want.  I gather 
with the pro version you can do a key word search and look for feeds.

hth,
Caitlyn

On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Marc Sutton wrote:

> Hi,
> I was wondering how people read rss. Safari or some other desktop reader. Any 
> experiences with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
> Marc
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Re: completely OT: new independence community website planned

[f10r14n]

Hi,

I think tagging your messages OT is not really analogous with smoking
outside someone's home.
I think it's rather like tagging a podcast or radioshow as 'Explicit'.
I think it allows those who do not want to read it to safely skip it,
knowing it is about something they do not care about.
I agree that off-topic messages in an existing thread are quite
annoying, but I think a thread labelled OT from the get-go is a
different matter.
No vengeance either, I am just clarifying my actions and explaining my
opinion.

Florian

Scott Rumery schreef:
> Hello, I really like this idea.  I have been wanting to  do something like 
> this for a while now, but I just didn't know how to get such a project 
> started.  I do have some time on my hands as i am not employed right now.  So 
> if I can help in any way to get this project under way, please let me know.
>
> Scott Rumery
>
> telephone # 478-993-8717
>
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:58 AM, f10r14n wrote:
>
> > No need to write you off list for you can just use the 'reply to
> > author' function or get my email address from the from: line in my
> > emails. I was only posting here to announce my idea, and if Cara tells
> > me to stop posting then I will.
> > I am reluctant to take this off list for I want people to be able to
> > keep up with the goings on of this idea.
> >
> > Florian
> >
> > On 3 jan, 13:05, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> >> Why not take this off list as Cara does not like completely OT.  After all 
> >> its her list in a sense and we have to abide by the rules and I think her 
> >> wishes should be respected.
> >>
> >> If you write to me off list, I will point you to some.
> >>
> >> Kawal.
> >>
> >> On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:58 PM, f10r14n  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>
> >>> I am not aware of any such resources , either in English or in Dutch,
> >>> which cover the topics previously described.
> >>> Indeed, I want this information to be accessible, free of charge,
> >>> without any hastle, to anyone who needs it . And I want people to be
> >>> able to contribute with whatever they think will benefit others
> >>> without any problems.
> >>> Please, point me to some of the resources you mentioned.
> >>
> >>> Florian
> >>
> >>> On 3 jan, 12:42, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>  But there loads of local resources covering these types of things unless 
>  this is for those throughout the world?  Not against this but may be you 
>  will duplicate local sources of information.
> >>
>  Kawal.
> >>
>  On 3 Jan 2012, at 12:08 PM, Angela Delicata  
>  wrote:
> >>
> > very good idea.
> > I'm with you and I'd like to see the site on line soon.
> >>
> > Regards.
> > Angela from Italy.
> >>
> > --
> > "La verità si ritrova sempre nella semplicità, mai nella confusione". 
> > (Isaac
> > Asimov).
> >>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of f10r14n
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 1:04 PM
> > To: MacVisionaries
> > Subject: completely OT: new independence community website planned
> >>
> > Hello,
> >>
> > This has nothing at all to do with the mac, voiceOver, iOS or anything
> > similar. If this in any way displeases you, please stop reading now.
> > Still here? Nice. I would like to ask for your opinions on an idea I 
> > came up
> > with yesterday. Those who follow me on twitter, @zersiax is my handle, 
> > will
> > have already seen this.
> > Yesterday I was browsing the well-known applevis website and I had an 
> > idea.
> > We are cataloging apps and their accessibility, workarounds for common
> > problems ...why can't we do this for real-life non-digital problems?
> > A lot of visually impaired people don't have the luxury of specialized
> > training programs to be able to live independently. Others might not 
> > want
> > to, but miss the resources they need to learn on their own.
> > Why not create a website like Applevis, but with tasks and how to 
> > complete
> > them? Like cleaning, making coffee, cooking, sorting laundry, picking 
> > out
> > clothes?
> > I think together we can build a resource that will be invaluable to a 
> > large
> > number of people.
> > I will set up the website, do all the technical stuff. But I will need a
> > community behind me. I will need people to submit content. I will need
> > people to make the site grow and reach it's full potential.
> > Who's with me?
> >>
> > Regards,
> > Florian
> >>
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Re: Using control right and left arrows under fusion and windows 7

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,

I don't know if this will help you, but you can give it a shot anyway.  First 
off, I am using fusion 3 and win xp running under lion.  I am having the same 
problems with the control and right and left arrow keys.  Yesterday, by chance, 
my husband suggested that I try using control, command, and whatever arrow I 
wanted, and it worked.  Now, I was particularly having the troubles in k 1000, 
and all my arrow keys and control keys had worked before, like before fusion 4 
had come out.  Not sure why all of a sudden things went wanly, but they did.

hth, because as strange as it sounds, it did work for me, even outside of k1000.

Caitlyn

On Dec 31, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> I asked this question on another list and didn't get anyone who knew how to 
> solve the problem, but heard from others having the problem.
> 
> I am dual booting my mbp with windows 7 under vm fusion.  All works well 
> except for the use of control left and right or up and down arrows.  What 
> this means is I can't move by word, only by character.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this, and is there a resolution for the problem?
> 
> Marlaina, who is celebrating her wedding anniversary today!  The whole world 
> celebrates my anniversary, Happy New Year to all!
> 
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Re: iTunes question re external file server

[Marlaina Lieberg]

Every device does; I figured out that much, smile.

Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the world!

Marlaina Lieberg
1guide...@gmail.com



On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:

ever device you want to share music with must have iTunes Match activated.

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok then just what is iTunes Match?  i thought it would centralize all my music 
in the cloud and I'd be able to get it from any machine on which I have iTunes.

Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the world!

Marlaina Lieberg
1guide...@gmail.com



On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

solved your problem... drum roll please.

lets say your music server is about 60gb or so in size, abandon itunes match 
and just use itunes as is.

each system should benefit from a direct copy of the contents of the itunes 
server drive you've built, ergo no connection to a network unless necessary.

the simple action is this...

from your server, assuming you have built an itunes folder in the NAS drive, 
copy the contents of that drive to the itunes folder of each machine. OK it's 
disk space but if you're like me and don't need the hassle of tandem drives, 
this is the best way. this also resolves the issue of what may be happening on 
your iphone.

it's a decent and direct solution which won't screw up your workstation nor 
slow things down.

lew

On 3 Jan 2012, at 20:19, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Ok.  Here's the deal.  I use an MBP and a Mac Air.  My husband uses his own 
> MBP and iPad.  We have all our music stored on a netgeer external server.  I 
> know it would be easiest if I had it all in one place and I thought that 
> would happen once I signed up for iTunes Match, but that has served to put 
> only 300 songs on my iPhone which I didn't want it to do, but my library has 
> more than 3,000 songs so even if I did want them on my iPhone, I still have 
> only a tenth of them.  However, the iPhone is a problem for another post.
>
> Marlaina
>
> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
> world!
>
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 1guide...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>
> I have an idea. but before I present the idea to you lol, just clarify what 
> machine you're using, disk space, what music you want? etc just so I can walk 
> through the issue with you. lol.
>
> I use my MBP as an all in 1 system. audio handling, systems tools, data 
> management, the lot. 500gb drive and still have 400gb left lol. the 100gb 
> between system, software, 30gb of itunes at full spec conversion, etc. I have 
> an emergency 120gb sata notebook drive in a caddy just in case.
>
> perhaps, why not simplify things.. rather than go and connect to a host to 
> download and access media, why not just use your MBP hard drive for the lot. 
> itunes will still love you either way. why make something hard lol.
>
> sorry. brain being powered by foot pump today lol
>
> lew
>
> On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:56, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>
>> Yikes, I'm drowning!  I think I just have to keep switching back and forth, 
>> what a pain!
>>
>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>> world!
>>
>> Marlaina Lieberg
>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>>
>> I agree with chris here.
>>
>> I wonder though if you can log into your main host via HTTPS or something 
>> like that so that you could log into your machine or storage device and 
>> still have an active host or directory structure for itunes.
>>
>> hmm will look into this.
>>
>> Going back to my work as an IT engineer from a windows (picks up bin, spits 
>> "Ding") standpoint, logging into a host whilst on the road can be achieved 
>> so that you can gain access to data there and then. it's what's used by us 
>> IT specialists for dialing into dying systems to fault find before we arrive 
>> or to perform instructions to set up emergency server actions. like win 
>> server 2003, etc. YUCK!
>>
>> it's been a while lol but I'm sure if you set up your storage system (NAS) 
>> with say a mac as a connection, you could connect directly, setting up your 
>> MBP itunes directory to connect to "Source directory of NAS" if possible.
>>
>> lew
>>
>> On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:43, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, so if I launch iTunes and I'm away from home, when I return I must 
>>> change the library location each time after I've been somewhere?  The thing 
>>> is, I don't want all that music on my MBP or my Mac Air.
>>>
>>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>>> world!
>>>
>>> Marlaina Lieberg
>>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>
>>> I think a higher level description is that iTunes will store your 
>>> preference of library location and use it from th

Re: E Q on Macs?

[Chris Blouch]

I don't have this but supposedly Audio Hijack has all kinds of effects 
including EQ that you can apply to its output. So you would just hijack 
any audio you want to tweak and then play with the output. Dunno how 
accessible the effects part of hijack is though.


CB

On 12/28/11 2:38 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

but that just effects the music not Alex.

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On Dec 28, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:


Itunes has a Graphic EQ that works quite nicely.  command option 2 will bring 
it up.


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Re: Using control right and left arrows under fusion and windows 7

[Caitlyn Furness]

Further to my previous message, I should've clarified by saying that I hit the 
key combination which are equivalent to control, windows and the right or left 
or up/down arrow keys.  I completely forgot about people maybe swapping the 
keys, etc!

Anyway, some of these other suggestions are wonderful ones and I'm also going 
to try them here and see if they help me out as well.

Thanks,
Caitlyn, freezing in Canada

On Dec 31, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> What version of Fusion?
> 
> Since I do not have this problem.
> 
> I am using Lion and Fusion 3.1x. 
> 
> My configuration is that I make the VM guess OS window a full screen by 
> pressing control + option + enter. Then the control arrows plus the normal 
> arrows work fine. In fact, I do not recall if having the guess window in 
> normal window size has an issue either.
> 
> In preferences you can swap around the keys. You can tell Fusion to disregard 
> all MAC shortcut keys which I have done. I have even swapped the option and 
> command keys around to make it feel more like windows. I have used the 
> windows remapping program that everyone has previously mention. This app I 
> only remapped one key for the Insert. Otherwise I haven't done anything else.
> 
> You can force the external keyboards to have full control within the guess 
> OS. The external keyboard is then regarded as a windows keyboard and isn't 
> seen by Lion.
> 
> Sean 
> On 01/01/2012, at 8:49 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> 
>> If you go into vmware preferences, keyboard and mouse, you can add your 
>> mapping there as long as you hit key mapping tab.  It can be confusing but 
>> once its done, then you can access your mapping preferences through any 
>> virtual machine and you do not have to use sharpe keys.
>> 
>> Kawal.On 31 Dec 2011, at 21:01, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmm, is there a way to remap keys using the mac to disable that?
>>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>>> 
>>> I haven't found a way around this either. The problem is that the Mac uses 
>>> ctrl+right/left arrows to move between spaces in launchpad, and I don't 
>>> think you can disable that.
>>> --
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>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there.
 
 I use Window-eyes and have tried turning vo off.  I still cannot control 
 arrow.  I tried it with a windows kb and an apple kb, both USB connected; 
 same problem.
 
 Thanks for your kind wishes!  We are having surf and turf and bubbles 
 tonight, smile.
 
 Marlaina 
 On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Does this happen when voice over is running?
 
 Just that when I have windows running with voice over off, if I try to 
 select words or lines using jaws, something crashes and I have to do alt 
 tav twice to get speech back re jaws but nothing is selected or copied to 
 the clip board.  I do not know if its a bmware problem or windows problem 
 or a jaws problem.
 
 Kawal.
 
 P.S. congratulations on your wedding anniversary.
 
 On 31 Dec 2011, at 07:52 PM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
> Hi all.
> 
> I asked this question on another list and didn't get anyone who knew how 
> to solve the problem, but heard from others having the problem.
> 
> I am dual booting my mbp with windows 7 under vm fusion.  All works well 
> except for the use of control left and right or up and down arrows.  What 
> this means is I can't move by word, only by character.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this, and is there a resolution for the 
> problem?
> 
> Marlaina, who is celebrating her wedding anniversary today!  The whole 
> world celebrates my anniversary, Happy New Year to all!
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Re: Using control right and left arrows under fusion and windows 7

[Caitlyn Furness]

Thanks, as I don't typically use mission control anyway!  

Caitlyn

On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:

> Hi.
> I'm glad I could help. I forgot to say that this trick of course helps in 
> both Fusion and all other apps on the Mac which is handy when editing text in 
> text edit or in mail.
> Best regards:
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> 
> Den 02/01/2012 kl. 15.59 skrev Marlaina Lieberg:
> 
>> Wow, this worked!  If these instructions were posted earlier, I missed them! 
>>  Wow, thanks a million!
>> 
>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>> world!
>> 
>> Marlaina Lieberg
>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> As someone said earlier, you have to do the following:
>> 1: Go into system preferences on your mac
>> 2: Go into keyboard
>> 3: Choose the shortcut tab or whatever it's called
>> 4: Choose mission control in the first table
>> 5: Uncheck all shortcut keys in the other table and then it all works 
>> without any issues.
>> Best regards:
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>> 
>> Den 02/01/2012 kl. 00.49 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu:
>> 
>>> Well in windows I have the same problem.  I can't arrow left or right with 
>>> the control key if I am to move word by word and that's annoying.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> On 1 Jan 2012, at 11:39 PM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Kawal,
 
 I tried that and it did not work.  I got to the from and to table, I 
 checked first option then right arrow and in the to table, I checked 
 control then right arrow.  I did the same for the left arrow; then I 
 closed all that out and when I went back into windows, my control left and 
 right still did nothing.
 
 Marlaina
 On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 
 If you go into vmware preferences, keyboard and mouse, you can add your 
 mapping there as long as you hit key mapping tab.  It can be confusing but 
 once its done, then you can access your mapping preferences through any 
 virtual machine and you do not have to use sharpe keys.
 
 Kawal.On 31 Dec 2011, at 21:01, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
 
> Hmm, is there a way to remap keys using the mac to disable that?
> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> 
> I haven't found a way around this either. The problem is that the Mac 
> uses ctrl+right/left arrows to move between spaces in launchpad, and I 
> don't think you can disable that.
> --
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> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 31, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Hi there.
>> 
>> I use Window-eyes and have tried turning vo off.  I still cannot control 
>> arrow.  I tried it with a windows kb and an apple kb, both USB 
>> connected; same problem.
>> 
>> Thanks for your kind wishes!  We are having surf and turf and bubbles 
>> tonight, smile.
>> 
>> Marlaina 
>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>> Does this happen when voice over is running?
>> 
>> Just that when I have windows running with voice over off, if I try to 
>> select words or lines using jaws, something crashes and I have to do alt 
>> tav twice to get speech back re jaws but nothing is selected or copied 
>> to the clip board.  I do not know if its a bmware problem or windows 
>> problem or a jaws problem.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> P.S. congratulations on your wedding anniversary.
>> 
>> On 31 Dec 2011, at 07:52 PM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> I asked this question on another list and didn't get anyone who knew 
>>> how to solve the problem, but heard from others having the problem.
>>> 
>>> I am dual booting my mbp with windows 7 under vm fusion.  All works 
>>> well except for the use of control left and right or up and down 
>>> arrows.  What this means is I can't move by word, only by character.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else experienced this, and is there a resolution for the 
>>> problem?
>>> 
>>> Marlaina, who is celebrating her wedding anniversary today!  The whole 
>>> world celebrates my anniversary, Happy New Year to all!
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re: dvd player:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi eric,
this is chenelle, i just allow for the entire episode to play then i  use the  
vo left arrow key stroke to go ba k to the main menu where the list of episodes 
are located at. then i vo  down arrow to the  next episode. but i will play 
with  my apple wireless keyboard  when  viewing  a episodic  tv series. now i 
also do have an apple tv at my disposal  so i just  use the  remote control 
when i am on net flix and nothing else due to the fact that  the apple tv now 
has voice over on it. i really do enjoy it a great deal too. that is another 
way that you could  view your favorite  tv series as well by  getting a net 
flix account and subscription which is only around 8 dollars per month. you 
could stream   as much as you want to. i really do find it to be most affective 
 for me. email me on my personal email to let me know if this helps or not.
sincerely, chenelle. take care eric, and happy new year too.

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how to erase applications from the i-phone 4 s.hello all,

[Chenelle Hancock]

it's chenelle. i wanted to know  with using voice over on your i-phone 4 s. how 
could you go about  removing  applications from your phone? if anyone could 
help me with this little plight that i am having i would most greatly 
appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle thanks a lot and happy new year to you all.

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VMware and the full keyboard with the num Pad

[ROD SKENE]

Hi,
I am using a full Apple keyboard with the num pad.  Recently, some of the keys 
on the num pad stopped working only in VMware Fusion using JAWS.  Only the 
right column and the top row on the num pad work.  the insert key and numbers 
are not working.  I have the num pad commander turned off.  
Can anyone help me get my num pad fully working again with JAWS in VMware?
Thank you so much if you can help!
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Re: Deleting podcast from iPhone

[Shen]

Hello David,
How interesting you can't get it with VoiceOver off, but you can get
it with VoiceOver on. I have the complete opposite experience. I can
get it each time, with VoiceOver off, I swipe from left to right. But
with VoiceOver on, even following your steps, I can't even get the
delete confirmation.
Can you explain again, with more details, how you get it with VoiceOver on?
It's kind of disappointing that this gesture is not discussed in the
VoiceOver Getting Started manual. Or I should say, it is discussed as
a standard gesture, but not with VoiceOver on.


On 1/3/12, Deamon David  wrote:
> Hi again, and thanks for answers.
> I tried both with VO on and off.
> I didn't manage to do it whith VO off, but with VO on I did the
> following:
> -Find the actual podcast I'd like to delete
> -Tap to select it
> -Double tap, and hold until there comes a sound
> -Than right after the sound, drag the finger to the right, while
> touching the screen with another finger
>
> -David
> On 3 Jan, 05:29, Paul Hunt <.
> prhu...@att.net> wrote:
>> Thanks Jef. I was able to remove the podcasts. Thnks.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Jeff Berwick 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > It applies to an episode.
>>
>> > The key is turning Voiceover off and then back on after you do the swipe
>> > gesture.
>>
>> > I tried the pass-through gesture but, that didn't allow me to keep
>> > voiceover on.
>>
>> > Jeff
>>
>> > On 2012-01-02, at 7:12 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
>>
>> >> This does not work for me, you must have the magic touch. When I put my
>> >> finger on the podcast and swipe right I don't get th confirmation
>> >> button. Do the instructions apply to an entire podcast or individual
>> >> episodes?
>>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> >> On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Jeff Berwick 
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >>> On the iPhone, find the podcast you want to delete and remember where
>> >>> abouts it appears on the screen.  Then turn off Voiceover and do a
>> >>> swipe from left to right at the location of the podcast.  Turn
>> >>> Voiceover back on and look for the confirmation button and double tap
>> >>> it.
>>
>> >>> Hth,
>> >>> Jeff
>>
>> >>> On 2012-01-02, at 1:08 PM, Deamon David wrote:
>>
>>  Hi guys.
>>  Can anyone here tell me how to delete podcasts that are downloaded on
>>  the iPhone?
>>  I've tried to find different ways to delete them.
>>  For example syncing with my Mac, and then delete it from there and
>>  sync again, That method resulted in just getting the files from the
>>  iPhone back to the Mac again.
>>  What to do?
>>  Cheers David
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Re: how to erase applications from the i-phone 4 s.hello all,

[Rose Morales]

Hi Chenelle,
To delete an app, double tap and hold any app on the home screen until you hear 
Voiceover say "moving app name". Then double tap the app you want to delete. 
it. iOS will prompt you if you're sure you want to delete the app you double 
tapped. Say yes. To get out of the mode that let's you move and delete apps, 
just hit the home button again.

Hth,
Rose

On Jan 3, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:

> it's chenelle. i wanted to know  with using voice over on your i-phone 4 s. 
> how could you go about  removing  applications from your phone? if anyone 
> could help me with this little plight that i am having i would most greatly 
> appreciate it.
> sincerely, chenelle thanks a lot and happy new year to you all.
> 
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Re: how to erase applications from the i-phone 4 s.hello all,

[Chuck]

Hi Chenelle,
To remove apps from your iPhone, Simply double tap and hold the app's
icon until you hear "Moving whatever the app name is"
Now double tap the screen and you will get a delete confirmation box.
select the appropriate option.

For future inquires about using voice over on the iPhone, iPad, or
iPod touch you may want to go to V iPhone at:
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/topics
Chuck


On Jan 3, 3:57 pm, Chenelle Hancock 
wrote:
> it's chenelle. i wanted to know  with using voice over on your i-phone 4 s. 
> how could you go about  removing  applications from your phone? if anyone 
> could help me with this little plight that i am having i would most greatly 
> appreciate it.
> sincerely, chenelle thanks a lot and happy new year to you all.
>
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Switching to a Mac from PC

[Chuck]

Hello everyone,
 I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC.
I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs.
I am currently using a PC with Windows 7 and zoom text as my
magnification and reading software.
I would like to hear from those of you who have made the switch.
What pitfalls should I look for? Are there any trade-offs?
 In your opinion after making the switch which is the better system?
Why?
Thanks.
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Re: Switching to a Mac from PC

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Chuck!
Although I do not use windows and never have!
I have seen posts about the zoom and one thing the Mac cannot do is change 
colours!
So its black on white or vice vursor!
hth Colin

On 4 Jan 2012, at 00:05, Chuck wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC.
> I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs.
> I am currently using a PC with Windows 7 and zoom text as my
> magnification and reading software.
> I would like to hear from those of you who have made the switch.
> What pitfalls should I look for? Are there any trade-offs?
> In your opinion after making the switch which is the better system?
> Why?
> Thanks.
> Chuck
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Re: Switching to a Mac from PC

[Alex Hall]

I got a Mini after hearing nothing but great things about the Mac and
VoiceOver. I can honestly say that I regret the decision. I never
understood editing, my system seemed sluggish compared to NVDA with
Windows, and web browsing is slow on the Mac when using vo. Also, a
lot of what I do on the pc is audio gaming, and not so much as a good,
accessible version of Solitaire is available on the Mac, let alone
shooting, strategy, or other intensively audio games.
I am still willing to admit that a good, long skype session with
someone who is an experienced Mac user may help me, but as of right
now I almost never boot into Mac, using the Windows half of my
dual-booting mini almost exclusively. If you do switch, make sure to
either set up bootcamp or a virtual machine so you can run Windows,
because I can pretty much promise that you will still be using Windows
for a while after you start playing with the mac. Sorry to be so
negative, but that's my experience so far.

On 1/3/12, Red.Falcon  wrote:
> Hi Chuck!
> Although I do not use windows and never have!
> I have seen posts about the zoom and one thing the Mac cannot do is change
> colours!
> So its black on white or vice vursor!
> hth Colin
>
> On 4 Jan 2012, at 00:05, Chuck wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC.
>> I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs.
>> I am currently using a PC with Windows 7 and zoom text as my
>> magnification and reading software.
>> I would like to hear from those of you who have made the switch.
>> What pitfalls should I look for? Are there any trade-offs?
>> In your opinion after making the switch which is the better system?
>> Why?
>> Thanks.
>> Chuck
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RE: Switching to a Mac from PC

[Missy Hoppe]

Very well said. I've had my mac since may, and although I've recently become 
far more fond of Itunes than my bank account is
comfortable with, I just don't use it for daily tasks. I just can't get 
comfortable with any of the word processing options,
and since I've been using a PC for close to 25 years, I'm always going to be 
more comfortable on a windows platform. One of
my favorite activities, especially while I'm unemployed, is playing games, and 
while I'm thrilled that the RS games client
works on the mac, there aren't any other options. I'm still hoping for a truly 
accessible mud client; if atlantis is
accessible, I sure haven't figured out how to make it speak automatically.
My other major task is writing/editing a story I've been working on for several 
years now. I just can't get comfortable
working on my files using the mac, so just keep using good old wordpad on the 
PC.
Since it cost me so much money, I have chosen to use the mac for things that 
either don't work or I don't want to mess with
on my PC: adium, skype, itunes, and a couple of other similar things that I 
can't remember at the moment. I figure that the
mac is a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong, and that's definitely 
something I'll give Apple credit for; you can
install the operating system without any sighted assistance, and with carbon 
copy cloner and time machine, it's easy to
restore your machine on the off chance that something catastrophic happens. 
Another thing that I really love about the mac is
Growl. It essensially reads things that happen in the system tray: changes in 
dropbox files for example. That's 1 thing my PC
can't do, or if it can, I don't know how to set it up, so the mac is really 
awesome in that respect.
With all that being said, however, while I certainly like my mac a lot more 
than I did when I first bought it, to be
perfectly honest, there's still a rather big part of me that regrets the 
purchase. I eventually hope to get bootcamp and/or
VM fusion up and running, but so far, that just hasn't happened.
I hope this makes at least a little sense and that it helps you in your 
decision. Sadly, I can't comment on the large print
side of things, but I've become moderately comfortable with using Voiceover. 
Good luck in whatever decision you make, and I
hope this helps you out at least a little.
Missy


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac from PC

I got a Mini after hearing nothing but great things about the Mac and 
VoiceOver. I can honestly say that I regret the
decision. I never understood editing, my system seemed sluggish compared to 
NVDA with Windows, and web browsing is slow on
the Mac when using vo. Also, a lot of what I do on the pc is audio gaming, and 
not so much as a good, accessible version of
Solitaire is available on the Mac, let alone shooting, strategy, or other 
intensively audio games.
I am still willing to admit that a good, long skype session with someone who is 
an experienced Mac user may help me, but as
of right now I almost never boot into Mac, using the Windows half of my 
dual-booting mini almost exclusively. If you do
switch, make sure to either set up bootcamp or a virtual machine so you can run 
Windows, because I can pretty much promise
that you will still be using Windows for a while after you start playing with 
the mac. Sorry to be so negative, but that's my
experience so far.

On 1/3/12, Red.Falcon  wrote:
> Hi Chuck!
> Although I do not use windows and never have!
> I have seen posts about the zoom and one thing the Mac cannot do is
> change colours!
> So its black on white or vice vursor!
> hth Colin
>
> On 4 Jan 2012, at 00:05, Chuck wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC.
>> I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs.
>> I am currently using a PC with Windows 7 and zoom text as my
>> magnification and reading software.
>> I would like to hear from those of you who have made the switch.
>> What pitfalls should I look for? Are there any trade-offs?
>> In your opinion after making the switch which is the better system?
>> Why?
>> Thanks.
>> Chuck
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Re: Switching to a Mac from PC

[Chuck]

Thanks for the information. I do plan to use my PC and the Mac Mini in
parallel until I get used to the Mac. I am familiar with voice over
and zoom on the iPhone and iPad and I'm hoping that they translate as
well to the Mac Mini.

I have a sighted friend who also says that the Mac is a little more
sluggish than the PC. I don't do any gaming, 90% of my computer uses
buying online, word processing, and web development

But having dealt with Zoom text for the last 15 years, I am totally
frustrated with the program. I have to reboot it about five times
every day in order to get the text smooting to work. And it no longer
works with Internet Explorer nine. I'm sure that when they do finally
fix it, they'll want another $150 for the update.
Chuck

On Jan 3, 6:22 pm, "Missy Hoppe"  wrote:
> Very well said. I've had my mac since may, and although I've recently become 
> far more fond of Itunes than my bank account is
> comfortable with, I just don't use it for daily tasks. I just can't get 
> comfortable with any of the word processing options,
> and since I've been using a PC for close to 25 years, I'm always going to be 
> more comfortable on a windows platform. One of
> my favorite activities, especially while I'm unemployed, is playing games, 
> and while I'm thrilled that the RS games client
> works on the mac, there aren't any other options. I'm still hoping for a 
> truly accessible mud client; if atlantis is
> accessible, I sure haven't figured out how to make it speak automatically.
> My other major task is writing/editing a story I've been working on for 
> several years now. I just can't get comfortable
> working on my files using the mac, so just keep using good old wordpad on the 
> PC.
> Since it cost me so much money, I have chosen to use the mac for things that 
> either don't work or I don't want to mess with
> on my PC: adium, skype, itunes, and a couple of other similar things that I 
> can't remember at the moment. I figure that the
> mac is a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong, and that's definitely 
> something I'll give Apple credit for; you can
> install the operating system without any sighted assistance, and with carbon 
> copy cloner and time machine, it's easy to
> restore your machine on the off chance that something catastrophic happens. 
> Another thing that I really love about the mac is
> Growl. It essensially reads things that happen in the system tray: changes in 
> dropbox files for example. That's 1 thing my PC
> can't do, or if it can, I don't know how to set it up, so the mac is really 
> awesome in that respect.
> With all that being said, however, while I certainly like my mac a lot more 
> than I did when I first bought it, to be
> perfectly honest, there's still a rather big part of me that regrets the 
> purchase. I eventually hope to get bootcamp and/or
> VM fusion up and running, but so far, that just hasn't happened.
> I hope this makes at least a little sense and that it helps you in your 
> decision. Sadly, I can't comment on the large print
> side of things, but I've become moderately comfortable with using Voiceover. 
> Good luck in whatever decision you make, and I
> hope this helps you out at least a little.
> Missy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:01 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac from PC
>
> I got a Mini after hearing nothing but great things about the Mac and 
> VoiceOver. I can honestly say that I regret the
> decision. I never understood editing, my system seemed sluggish compared to 
> NVDA with Windows, and web browsing is slow on
> the Mac when using vo. Also, a lot of what I do on the pc is audio gaming, 
> and not so much as a good, accessible version of
> Solitaire is available on the Mac, let alone shooting, strategy, or other 
> intensively audio games.
> I am still willing to admit that a good, long skype session with someone who 
> is an experienced Mac user may help me, but as
> of right now I almost never boot into Mac, using the Windows half of my 
> dual-booting mini almost exclusively. If you do
> switch, make sure to either set up bootcamp or a virtual machine so you can 
> run Windows, because I can pretty much promise
> that you will still be using Windows for a while after you start playing with 
> the mac. Sorry to be so negative, but that's my
> experience so far.
>
> On 1/3/12, Red.Falcon  wrote:
> > Hi Chuck!
> > Although I do not use windows and never have!
> > I have seen posts about the zoom and one thing the Mac cannot do is
> > change colours!
> > So its black on white or vice vursor!
> > hth Colin
>
> > On 4 Jan 2012, at 00:05, Chuck wrote:
>
> >> Hello everyone,
> >> I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC.
> >> I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs.
> >> I am currently using a PC with Windows

Re: Switching to a Mac from PC

[Alex Hall]

Web design and web browsing may be disappointing. I recommend using
Chrome instead of Safari, but even that may be sluggish.
VO on iOS is similar in some ways (the rotor is the same, for
instance) but in other ways they are very different animals.

On 1/3/12, Chuck  wrote:
> Thanks for the information. I do plan to use my PC and the Mac Mini in
> parallel until I get used to the Mac. I am familiar with voice over
> and zoom on the iPhone and iPad and I'm hoping that they translate as
> well to the Mac Mini.
>
> I have a sighted friend who also says that the Mac is a little more
> sluggish than the PC. I don't do any gaming, 90% of my computer uses
> buying online, word processing, and web development
>
> But having dealt with Zoom text for the last 15 years, I am totally
> frustrated with the program. I have to reboot it about five times
> every day in order to get the text smooting to work. And it no longer
> works with Internet Explorer nine. I'm sure that when they do finally
> fix it, they'll want another $150 for the update.
> Chuck
>
> On Jan 3, 6:22 pm, "Missy Hoppe"  wrote:
>> Very well said. I've had my mac since may, and although I've recently
>> become far more fond of Itunes than my bank account is
>> comfortable with, I just don't use it for daily tasks. I just can't get
>> comfortable with any of the word processing options,
>> and since I've been using a PC for close to 25 years, I'm always going to
>> be more comfortable on a windows platform. One of
>> my favorite activities, especially while I'm unemployed, is playing games,
>> and while I'm thrilled that the RS games client
>> works on the mac, there aren't any other options. I'm still hoping for a
>> truly accessible mud client; if atlantis is
>> accessible, I sure haven't figured out how to make it speak automatically.
>> My other major task is writing/editing a story I've been working on for
>> several years now. I just can't get comfortable
>> working on my files using the mac, so just keep using good old wordpad on
>> the PC.
>> Since it cost me so much money, I have chosen to use the mac for things
>> that either don't work or I don't want to mess with
>> on my PC: adium, skype, itunes, and a couple of other similar things that
>> I can't remember at the moment. I figure that the
>> mac is a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong, and that's definitely
>> something I'll give Apple credit for; you can
>> install the operating system without any sighted assistance, and with
>> carbon copy cloner and time machine, it's easy to
>> restore your machine on the off chance that something catastrophic
>> happens. Another thing that I really love about the mac is
>> Growl. It essensially reads things that happen in the system tray: changes
>> in dropbox files for example. That's 1 thing my PC
>> can't do, or if it can, I don't know how to set it up, so the mac is
>> really awesome in that respect.
>> With all that being said, however, while I certainly like my mac a lot
>> more than I did when I first bought it, to be
>> perfectly honest, there's still a rather big part of me that regrets the
>> purchase. I eventually hope to get bootcamp and/or
>> VM fusion up and running, but so far, that just hasn't happened.
>> I hope this makes at least a little sense and that it helps you in your
>> decision. Sadly, I can't comment on the large print
>> side of things, but I've become moderately comfortable with using
>> Voiceover. Good luck in whatever decision you make, and I
>> hope this helps you out at least a little.
>> Missy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:01 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac from PC
>>
>> I got a Mini after hearing nothing but great things about the Mac and
>> VoiceOver. I can honestly say that I regret the
>> decision. I never understood editing, my system seemed sluggish compared
>> to NVDA with Windows, and web browsing is slow on
>> the Mac when using vo. Also, a lot of what I do on the pc is audio gaming,
>> and not so much as a good, accessible version of
>> Solitaire is available on the Mac, let alone shooting, strategy, or other
>> intensively audio games.
>> I am still willing to admit that a good, long skype session with someone
>> who is an experienced Mac user may help me, but as
>> of right now I almost never boot into Mac, using the Windows half of my
>> dual-booting mini almost exclusively. If you do
>> switch, make sure to either set up bootcamp or a virtual machine so you
>> can run Windows, because I can pretty much promise
>> that you will still be using Windows for a while after you start playing
>> with the mac. Sorry to be so negative, but that's my
>> experience so far.
>>
>> On 1/3/12, Red.Falcon  wrote:
>> > Hi Chuck!
>> > Although I do not use windows and never have!
>> > I have seen posts about 

Re: Logic Pro

[Vic]

Hi Lew,
I am not questioning your assertions. I just wanted to know what
exactly does not work in Logic and whether you had a chance to try
this application with the latest update on Lion.
Also, why are you convinced that Apple can't turn around and make
parts of Logic accessible the way they did with Garage Band?

Thanks,
Vic


On Jan 3, 1:11 am, "Mr. L. Alexander" 
wrote:
> I'm not stating assumptions. just pure fact.
>
> though OS X lion and the latest update may offer a few object links, you 
> cannot interact with the main window correctly nor run logic as you need to 
> use it. simple as that.
>
> The day apple pulls it's finger out to make logic pro fully accessible is the 
> day I become pope!
>
> lol
>
> lew
>
> On 2 Jan 2012, at 23:39, Vic wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > This topic is so timely.
> > I just stopped by a local Apple store and had a chance to play with
> > Logic Pro for about 10 minutes using VoiceOver on a Lion-powered
> > system.
> > I would not say that Logic is completely inaccessible. On the other
> > hand I cannot say at this point how much it actually is.
> > I was able to access toolbars, menus, track template library, some
> > parts of mixer, transport controls and an assortment of other things.
> > So, I am wondering who on the list have actually played with the
> > latest Logic Pro 9.1.6 and can tell us which parts are accessible,
> > which ones are nearly accessible and which ones are completely out of
> > question. I'd love to play with real facts and not just assumptions.
>
> > Anyone, please?
> > Thanks a lot.
> > Victor
>
> > Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
> >> no it isn't
>
> >> it hasn't been accessible at all for a long time.
>
> >> there's only 1 workaround to using logic blind. that's using a 
> >> professional digital production console worth about £10,000 or more.
>
> >> the simple answer here is to go with AVID ProTools 10.
>
> >> Sorry. logic is a touchy subject.
>
> >> lew
>
> >> On 2 Jan 2012, at 21:46, Emrah wrote:
>
> >>> Hey there,
>
> >>> Does anybody know if Logic Pro is accessible with VO?
> >>> I saw it for $199 and thought it sounded like an excellent deal for what 
> >>> it can do.
>
> >>> Thanks and best wishes for 2012,
>
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>
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Re: FaceBook iphone replacement app

[Paul Hunt]

Hello David. My biggest problems are managing new items and organizing my news 
feed from newest to oldest. Do you have any ideas?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:24 AM, David Eagle  wrote:

> Hi, I downloaded the Facebook App from the Ap store on December 23rd
> and it worksfine. I'm using an IPhone 4S with IOS5 andVoice Over.
> 
> 
> On 02/01/2012, Paul Hunt  wrote:
>> I don't understand how items are sorted in Newsfeed in the app. I would like
>> them sorted by date most recent first. How can I make this happen?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 1, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Joanne Chua  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> Been using facebook for iphone app since i got my iphone which is end
>>> of 2010 and found it pretty accessible. Yes, it can be better, but i'm
>>> not aware of any inaccessible issue at all. sometime it plays up,
>>> particularly when we upgreat from IOS4 to IOS5. but soon after,
>>> facebook did another update on their app, now its all right. not 100%
>>> perhaps, but i would say i can do 90% of the tasks without any major
>>> issue.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> On 02/01/2012, CHUCK REICHEL  wrote:
 Hi David,
 Happy New Year Also!
 Its Probably that "inaccessible" "Garget Note Feature" they are talking
 about! ;)
 Talk soon
 CHUCK REICHEL
 954-742-0019
 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
 In GOD I Trust
 
 
 
 
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> Hi, happy New Year. I've been using the Facebook app on the iPhone for
> over a week now with no problems. What is inaccessible about it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 31 Dec 2011, at 19:20, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
>> Hello listers, I have found a really great app to replace the Facebook
>> crap of an app. The app is called Facedekk it is made by Taknology, you
>> can search for either of these and find it in the app store. I don't
>> know
>> if it is in all the app stores I live in the United States. It is a
>> great
>> app the developers have made it fully accessible with VO, not sure if
>> this was intentional but it is great anyway, It does everything the
>> Facebook app is supposed to do. The only thing that I have found that
>> doesn't work is the settings section of the app, I did send a email to
>> the developer to see if they would fix this issue, and to see if they
>> would add push notifications to the app. The app even uses the Vo
>> gestures to back to the previous page which I missed greatly on the
>> Facebook app. It is a all around well done app. There is two versions
>> of
>> the app one that is $.99 and that is free, I have purchesed the paid
>> version.
>> 
>> Enjoy,
>> Ed
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Re: E Q on Macs?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Effects is completely inaccessible with voiceover in audio hijack.

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
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On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> I don't have this but supposedly Audio Hijack has all kinds of effects 
> including EQ that you can apply to its output. So you would just hijack any 
> audio you want to tweak and then play with the output. Dunno how accessible 
> the effects part of hijack is though.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/28/11 2:38 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> but that just effects the music not Alex.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter&  Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
>> 
>>> Itunes has a Graphic EQ that works quite nicely.  command option 2 will 
>>> bring it up.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>>> • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>>> • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>>> • My home page:
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Re: Switching to a Mac from PC

[Ricardo Walker]

lol,

I think your sighted friend is on drugs.  :).  I find the Mac to be just as fas 
and more often than not faster when doing tasks than windows when a screen 
reader is not involved.  Man, You know how long it takes iTunes to open on 
windows sometimes? smh.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Chuck wrote:

> Thanks for the information. I do plan to use my PC and the Mac Mini in
> parallel until I get used to the Mac. I am familiar with voice over
> and zoom on the iPhone and iPad and I'm hoping that they translate as
> well to the Mac Mini.
> 
> I have a sighted friend who also says that the Mac is a little more
> sluggish than the PC. I don't do any gaming, 90% of my computer uses
> buying online, word processing, and web development
> 
> But having dealt with Zoom text for the last 15 years, I am totally
> frustrated with the program. I have to reboot it about five times
> every day in order to get the text smooting to work. And it no longer
> works with Internet Explorer nine. I'm sure that when they do finally
> fix it, they'll want another $150 for the update.
> Chuck
> 
> On Jan 3, 6:22 pm, "Missy Hoppe"  wrote:
>> Very well said. I've had my mac since may, and although I've recently become 
>> far more fond of Itunes than my bank account is
>> comfortable with, I just don't use it for daily tasks. I just can't get 
>> comfortable with any of the word processing options,
>> and since I've been using a PC for close to 25 years, I'm always going to be 
>> more comfortable on a windows platform. One of
>> my favorite activities, especially while I'm unemployed, is playing games, 
>> and while I'm thrilled that the RS games client
>> works on the mac, there aren't any other options. I'm still hoping for a 
>> truly accessible mud client; if atlantis is
>> accessible, I sure haven't figured out how to make it speak automatically.
>> My other major task is writing/editing a story I've been working on for 
>> several years now. I just can't get comfortable
>> working on my files using the mac, so just keep using good old wordpad on 
>> the PC.
>> Since it cost me so much money, I have chosen to use the mac for things that 
>> either don't work or I don't want to mess with
>> on my PC: adium, skype, itunes, and a couple of other similar things that I 
>> can't remember at the moment. I figure that the
>> mac is a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong, and that's definitely 
>> something I'll give Apple credit for; you can
>> install the operating system without any sighted assistance, and with carbon 
>> copy cloner and time machine, it's easy to
>> restore your machine on the off chance that something catastrophic happens. 
>> Another thing that I really love about the mac is
>> Growl. It essensially reads things that happen in the system tray: changes 
>> in dropbox files for example. That's 1 thing my PC
>> can't do, or if it can, I don't know how to set it up, so the mac is really 
>> awesome in that respect.
>> With all that being said, however, while I certainly like my mac a lot more 
>> than I did when I first bought it, to be
>> perfectly honest, there's still a rather big part of me that regrets the 
>> purchase. I eventually hope to get bootcamp and/or
>> VM fusion up and running, but so far, that just hasn't happened.
>> I hope this makes at least a little sense and that it helps you in your 
>> decision. Sadly, I can't comment on the large print
>> side of things, but I've become moderately comfortable with using Voiceover. 
>> Good luck in whatever decision you make, and I
>> hope this helps you out at least a little.
>> Missy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:01 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac from PC
>> 
>> I got a Mini after hearing nothing but great things about the Mac and 
>> VoiceOver. I can honestly say that I regret the
>> decision. I never understood editing, my system seemed sluggish compared to 
>> NVDA with Windows, and web browsing is slow on
>> the Mac when using vo. Also, a lot of what I do on the pc is audio gaming, 
>> and not so much as a good, accessible version of
>> Solitaire is available on the Mac, let alone shooting, strategy, or other 
>> intensively audio games.
>> I am still willing to admit that a good, long skype session with someone who 
>> is an experienced Mac user may help me, but as
>> of right now I almost never boot into Mac, using the Windows half of my 
>> dual-booting mini almost exclusively. If you do
>> switch, make sure to either set up bootcamp or a virtual machine so you can 
>> run Windows, because I can pretty much promise
>> that you will still be using Windows for a while after you start playing 
>> with the mac. Sorry to be so negative, but that's 

Re: Switching to a Mac from PC

[Alex Hall]

I find it interesting that you specify that Macs are faster when a
screen reader is not involved. Do you mean that you find vo slows
things down, or just that screen readers make for inaccurate
comparisons? I always figured the extreme sluggishness of my mini was
due to its lack of a monitor...

On 1/3/12, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> lol,
>
> I think your sighted friend is on drugs.  :).  I find the Mac to be just as
> fas and more often than not faster when doing tasks than windows when a
> screen reader is not involved.  Man, You know how long it takes iTunes to
> open on windows sometimes? smh.
>
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
>
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Chuck wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the information. I do plan to use my PC and the Mac Mini in
>> parallel until I get used to the Mac. I am familiar with voice over
>> and zoom on the iPhone and iPad and I'm hoping that they translate as
>> well to the Mac Mini.
>>
>> I have a sighted friend who also says that the Mac is a little more
>> sluggish than the PC. I don't do any gaming, 90% of my computer uses
>> buying online, word processing, and web development
>>
>> But having dealt with Zoom text for the last 15 years, I am totally
>> frustrated with the program. I have to reboot it about five times
>> every day in order to get the text smooting to work. And it no longer
>> works with Internet Explorer nine. I'm sure that when they do finally
>> fix it, they'll want another $150 for the update.
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Jan 3, 6:22 pm, "Missy Hoppe"  wrote:
>>> Very well said. I've had my mac since may, and although I've recently
>>> become far more fond of Itunes than my bank account is
>>> comfortable with, I just don't use it for daily tasks. I just can't get
>>> comfortable with any of the word processing options,
>>> and since I've been using a PC for close to 25 years, I'm always going to
>>> be more comfortable on a windows platform. One of
>>> my favorite activities, especially while I'm unemployed, is playing
>>> games, and while I'm thrilled that the RS games client
>>> works on the mac, there aren't any other options. I'm still hoping for a
>>> truly accessible mud client; if atlantis is
>>> accessible, I sure haven't figured out how to make it speak
>>> automatically.
>>> My other major task is writing/editing a story I've been working on for
>>> several years now. I just can't get comfortable
>>> working on my files using the mac, so just keep using good old wordpad on
>>> the PC.
>>> Since it cost me so much money, I have chosen to use the mac for things
>>> that either don't work or I don't want to mess with
>>> on my PC: adium, skype, itunes, and a couple of other similar things that
>>> I can't remember at the moment. I figure that the
>>> mac is a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong, and that's definitely
>>> something I'll give Apple credit for; you can
>>> install the operating system without any sighted assistance, and with
>>> carbon copy cloner and time machine, it's easy to
>>> restore your machine on the off chance that something catastrophic
>>> happens. Another thing that I really love about the mac is
>>> Growl. It essensially reads things that happen in the system tray:
>>> changes in dropbox files for example. That's 1 thing my PC
>>> can't do, or if it can, I don't know how to set it up, so the mac is
>>> really awesome in that respect.
>>> With all that being said, however, while I certainly like my mac a lot
>>> more than I did when I first bought it, to be
>>> perfectly honest, there's still a rather big part of me that regrets the
>>> purchase. I eventually hope to get bootcamp and/or
>>> VM fusion up and running, but so far, that just hasn't happened.
>>> I hope this makes at least a little sense and that it helps you in your
>>> decision. Sadly, I can't comment on the large print
>>> side of things, but I've become moderately comfortable with using
>>> Voiceover. Good luck in whatever decision you make, and I
>>> hope this helps you out at least a little.
>>> Missy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:01 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac from PC
>>>
>>> I got a Mini after hearing nothing but great things about the Mac and
>>> VoiceOver. I can honestly say that I regret the
>>> decision. I never understood editing, my system seemed sluggish compared
>>> to NVDA with Windows, and web browsing is slow on
>>> the Mac when using vo. Also, a lot of what I do on the pc is audio
>>> gaming, and not so much as a good, accessible version of
>>> Solitaire is available on the Mac, let alone shooting, strategy, or other
>>> intensively audio games.
>>> I am still willing to admit that a good, long skype session with someone
>>> who is an experienced Mac user may h

Re: Logic Pro

[Mr. L. Alexander]

very simple reason.

to make logic pro fully accessible means a total rewrite. that's the info given 
to me by one of my contacts at apple. it requires complete recoding from the 
base layer to include voiceover support to all windows and elements. take as an 
example the main arrange window... you have each channel strip which in itself 
has various components including additional components, drop down menus 
including automation layouts, etc, each button for mute, solo, arm record, etc. 
out of that, there's access to the tool palette and master control etc. then 
there's full mixer access. the mixer is a fully adapted mixer so changes 
depending on the behaviour of the project you want to use or the type of system 
you need.. you have various plugin windows, process management windows, etc. 
it's a full on programming restructure to give voiceover the support it needs.

OK bear in mind that lion has a few tweaks in voiceover and the last update of 
logic has changed a few things, you have to bear in mind that each update may 
tweak objects and elements which can be seen by voiceover. intentional or not. 
that's the way programming is.

Look at the length of time between versions of pro tools before we have 
accessibility. It's taken so long for digidesign (NOW AVID) to roll out pro 
tools 9 and 10 with voiceover integration and they've done a great job. OK it's 
taken a lot of work with various people who I am proud  to say have changed the 
face of production for blind users.

For apple to completely rework logic for blind users would mean a full new 
release built from the ground up. not just a few tweaks here and there.

from another point, please note that other production systems are not 
accessible at all and never will be. Steinberg Cubase / sequel / nuendo. Bias 
Peak. Motu digital performer. These will never work with a screen reader 
environment like voiceover as to do the work means changing programming 
language, changing the way they use interface elements and then mastering 
voiceover access..

I do apologise for my tone in the last emails. this gets a bit of a touchy 
subject for me as I quit as a professional musician / recording artist because 
of these issues, after investing in equipment I spent time working with and 
trying to adapt to a suitable environment, being told by apple sales reps that 
logic studio 8 and 9 were accessible and down the line they weren't at all. the 
only way I managed to get some work done was turning logic into a master tape 
and using a digital production board as the front end. I hated every minute. I 
wasn't willing to go to windows and use sonar with jaws and  some scripts.  I 
could have gone completely analogue but finding a comfortable production 
console here is just not as easy as all new consoles are digital, touch 
screens, etc.

I do however hope that apple developers do take the time to build logic as a 
complete system with voiceover integration. It's a bloomin decent system for 
sighted users and is a decently priced competitor to pro-tools.

lew

On 4 Jan 2012, at 02:08, Vic wrote:

> Hi Lew,
> I am not questioning your assertions. I just wanted to know what
> exactly does not work in Logic and whether you had a chance to try
> this application with the latest update on Lion.
> Also, why are you convinced that Apple can't turn around and make
> parts of Logic accessible the way they did with Garage Band?
> 
> Thanks,
> Vic
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 1:11 am, "Mr. L. Alexander" 
> wrote:
>> I'm not stating assumptions. just pure fact.
>> 
>> though OS X lion and the latest update may offer a few object links, you 
>> cannot interact with the main window correctly nor run logic as you need to 
>> use it. simple as that.
>> 
>> The day apple pulls it's finger out to make logic pro fully accessible is 
>> the day I become pope!
>> 
>> lol
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> On 2 Jan 2012, at 23:39, Vic wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> This topic is so timely.
>>> I just stopped by a local Apple store and had a chance to play with
>>> Logic Pro for about 10 minutes using VoiceOver on a Lion-powered
>>> system.
>>> I would not say that Logic is completely inaccessible. On the other
>>> hand I cannot say at this point how much it actually is.
>>> I was able to access toolbars, menus, track template library, some
>>> parts of mixer, transport controls and an assortment of other things.
>>> So, I am wondering who on the list have actually played with the
>>> latest Logic Pro 9.1.6 and can tell us which parts are accessible,
>>> which ones are nearly accessible and which ones are completely out of
>>> question. I'd love to play with real facts and not just assumptions.
>> 
>>> Anyone, please?
>>> Thanks a lot.
>>> Victor
>> 
>>> Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
 no it isn't
>> 
 it hasn't been accessible at all for a long time.
>> 
 there's only 1 workaround to using logic blind. that's using a 
 professional digital production console worth about £10,000 or more.
>> 
 the sim

Re: Switching to a Mac from PC

[Mr. L. Alexander]

The logic behind a system running slower when a screen reader active is 
correct. like all other apps, there is system and app loads to both CPU and 
RAM. it's just one of those things.

bear in mind  variables such as components installed, hardware variations and 
so much more.

Voicover in my opinion doesn't even touch my workhorse (macbook 2010 15" 
2.66ghz I7 4gb ram) I check the behaviour of the CPU, process management, etc 
and it's decent. the only time there's a vulnerability is in  OS X lion where 
voiceover can go into busy mode and hammer the CPU floor a bit but that's a bug 
that needs ironing out.

the difference between computers for sighted users and us is the use of 
accessibility tools. each screen reader has different resources to use, so 
therefore different CPU behaviours, RAM handling, etc.

TADA. not even a cough.

lol

lew

On 4 Jan 2012, at 04:11, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> lol,
> 
> I think your sighted friend is on drugs.  :).  I find the Mac to be just as 
> fas and more often than not faster when doing tasks than windows when a 
> screen reader is not involved.  Man, You know how long it takes iTunes to 
> open on windows sometimes? smh.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Chuck wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the information. I do plan to use my PC and the Mac Mini in
>> parallel until I get used to the Mac. I am familiar with voice over
>> and zoom on the iPhone and iPad and I'm hoping that they translate as
>> well to the Mac Mini.
>> 
>> I have a sighted friend who also says that the Mac is a little more
>> sluggish than the PC. I don't do any gaming, 90% of my computer uses
>> buying online, word processing, and web development
>> 
>> But having dealt with Zoom text for the last 15 years, I am totally
>> frustrated with the program. I have to reboot it about five times
>> every day in order to get the text smooting to work. And it no longer
>> works with Internet Explorer nine. I'm sure that when they do finally
>> fix it, they'll want another $150 for the update.
>> Chuck
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 6:22 pm, "Missy Hoppe"  wrote:
>>> Very well said. I've had my mac since may, and although I've recently 
>>> become far more fond of Itunes than my bank account is
>>> comfortable with, I just don't use it for daily tasks. I just can't get 
>>> comfortable with any of the word processing options,
>>> and since I've been using a PC for close to 25 years, I'm always going to 
>>> be more comfortable on a windows platform. One of
>>> my favorite activities, especially while I'm unemployed, is playing games, 
>>> and while I'm thrilled that the RS games client
>>> works on the mac, there aren't any other options. I'm still hoping for a 
>>> truly accessible mud client; if atlantis is
>>> accessible, I sure haven't figured out how to make it speak automatically.
>>> My other major task is writing/editing a story I've been working on for 
>>> several years now. I just can't get comfortable
>>> working on my files using the mac, so just keep using good old wordpad on 
>>> the PC.
>>> Since it cost me so much money, I have chosen to use the mac for things 
>>> that either don't work or I don't want to mess with
>>> on my PC: adium, skype, itunes, and a couple of other similar things that I 
>>> can't remember at the moment. I figure that the
>>> mac is a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong, and that's definitely 
>>> something I'll give Apple credit for; you can
>>> install the operating system without any sighted assistance, and with 
>>> carbon copy cloner and time machine, it's easy to
>>> restore your machine on the off chance that something catastrophic happens. 
>>> Another thing that I really love about the mac is
>>> Growl. It essensially reads things that happen in the system tray: changes 
>>> in dropbox files for example. That's 1 thing my PC
>>> can't do, or if it can, I don't know how to set it up, so the mac is really 
>>> awesome in that respect.
>>> With all that being said, however, while I certainly like my mac a lot more 
>>> than I did when I first bought it, to be
>>> perfectly honest, there's still a rather big part of me that regrets the 
>>> purchase. I eventually hope to get bootcamp and/or
>>> VM fusion up and running, but so far, that just hasn't happened.
>>> I hope this makes at least a little sense and that it helps you in your 
>>> decision. Sadly, I can't comment on the large print
>>> side of things, but I've become moderately comfortable with using 
>>> Voiceover. Good luck in whatever decision you make, and I
>>> hope this helps you out at least a little.
>>> Missy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:01 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac from PC
>>> 
>>>