Re: introduction

[Charlie Bates]

hello Sarah

Congratulations! what fantastic presents you received for your
birthday! i wish I had a lovely family like yours!

Welcome to the world of mac - you will never look back! It really is a
more user friendly platform.

I am learning voiceover too. I have low vision and have previously
just used the zooming feature within OSX but now feel like i want to
use voiceover full time to avoid straining my eyes and harming my body
with bad posture. It's quite difficult for me as even when i was on
windows I was just using magnification software (zoomtext) so i don't
have a screenreader background.

The people on this list are really great. Dont be afraid to ask
questions.

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Re: Accessible Games For The Mac

[Jenny Wood]

Oh wow, these games look excellent!  Thank you very much for sharing.  One 
question, and I do intend to read through some of the README's as I get time, 
but is there any way to play against the computer rather than other people?  I 
would love to get some good practice in before throwing myself to the wolves. 
LOL 

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On Apr 1, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

> Hi. I was just reading the latest digest for the list and someone asked about 
> accessible games for the Mac. And the answer is, yes, there are indeed other 
> accessible games for this lovely computer besides Chess. There's a company 
> called RS Games that have made their games cross-platformed. Their game 
> client includes Monopoly, Uno, Blackjack, and Yatzee. Check them out at 
> http://zanosoft.net/rsgames/ and try them out for yourself. The games are 
> self-voicing so you can turn off or mute Voice Over.
> 
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RE: Getting used to the screen on a Macbook pro

[Kimberly]

Interestingly, I tried with the Mac when I got home and could play the
podcast with no problem, but I can't figure out how to download them which I
figured was just my inexperience with the Mac. The one I listened to was
very informative, but I think it would be even better if I could play it on
my vr stream while I follow along doing things on the Mac.





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Hi Kimberly

I am having trouble getting the podcasts to work also. I thought it
was just my machine! :(

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Re: Accessible Games For The Mac

[Zachary Kline]

While we're on the subject of accessible games, don't forget the ZOom 
interactive fiction interpreter.  That's self-voicing as well, and I've yet to 
find a better program for playing the old text adventures.  It can handle 
almost all popular formats, and is great with Alex reading the text.  It can be 
found at its homepage, www.logicalshift.co.uk/unix/zoom
Enjoy,
Zack.
On Apr 1, 2011, at 12:44 AM, Jenny Wood wrote:

> Oh wow, these games look excellent!  Thank you very much for sharing.  One 
> question, and I do intend to read through some of the README's as I get time, 
> but is there any way to play against the computer rather than other people?  
> I would love to get some good practice in before throwing myself to the 
> wolves. LOL 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 12:26 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
> 
>> Hi. I was just reading the latest digest for the list and someone asked 
>> about accessible games for the Mac. And the answer is, yes, there are indeed 
>> other accessible games for this lovely computer besides Chess. There's a 
>> company called RS Games that have made their games cross-platformed. Their 
>> game client includes Monopoly, Uno, Blackjack, and Yatzee. Check them out at 
>> http://zanosoft.net/rsgames/ and try them out for yourself. The games are 
>> self-voicing so you can turn off or mute Voice Over.
>> 
>> Shawn
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Re: Getting used to the screen on a Macbook pro

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

When on the link to the podcast you can just press option return or, interact 
with the link and bring up the context menu with VO shift M.  I believe there 
is a download option in here.

hth

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On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:17 AM, Kimberly wrote:

> Interestingly, I tried with the Mac when I got home and could play the
> podcast with no problem, but I can't figure out how to download them which I
> figured was just my inexperience with the Mac. The one I listened to was
> very informative, but I think it would be even better if I could play it on
> my vr stream while I follow along doing things on the Mac.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: Getting used to the screen on a Macbook pro
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> 
> Hi Kimberly
> 
> I am having trouble getting the podcasts to work also. I thought it
> was just my machine! :(
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Re: Garage Band Tutorials again please?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi James,

you can find them here.
http://www.mobileaccess.org/?s=garageband

hth

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On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:12 AM, James Malone wrote:

> Hi guys. Can someone please post the links to the Garage Band tutorials that 
> were done a while ago? I seem to have lost them.
> Cheers,
> James
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Re: Garage Band Tutorials again please?

[James Malone]

oh, thanks heaps. I'll save these links again. Lol
On 01/04/2011, at 10:54 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi James,
> 
> you can find them here.
> http://www.mobileaccess.org/?s=garageband
> 
> hth
> 
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> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:12 AM, James Malone wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. Can someone please post the links to the Garage Band tutorials that 
>> were done a while ago? I seem to have lost them.
>> Cheers,
>> James
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Re: Skype 2.8 will be available for seven days if anyone on list needs it.

[Michael Busboom]

Hello Jes,

I have downloaded the DMG file and I thank you for it.

I feel better, just knowing that I can go back to the older version if I need 
to, but I'm kind of jazzed about trying to figure out how to accomplish a 
couple of other things that others have already accomplished.

Kindest regards from Austria,

Mike

On 31,Mar,2011, at 11:32 PM, Jes Smith wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> Today is March 31st, 2011. Seeing as there are people who may need Skype 2.8, 
> I will make it available to you for one week. IF you need it, go to the 
> following link:
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4707788/Skype_2.8.0.659.dmg
> Again, this is only for one week. after that, the file will no longer be 
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> Take care.
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Re: introduction

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi Sarah:
Dang, girl! You so made out for your Birthday! Nice going! First of all, go to 
www.blindcooltech.com. Listen to all podcasts done by Mike Arrigo. They will 
help you out. You will love 1-to1 training. April 13th will by my year 
anaversery with the Mac. You will love it. We've all had those frustrations, 
that's normal. I have a Macbook Pro, iPhone, iPod Nano, and Apple TV. I'm quite 
happy with my Apple products. I use an apex, not a Braillesense, so can't help. 

On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Sarah May wrote:

> Hi List!
>  
> My name is Sarah.  I’m from Minneapolis, Minnesota and am mostly blind.  For 
> my birthday, a little over a month ago, I received a Macbook.  I have always 
> been a PC and Jaws user.  A friend of mine, who visited me this past 
> September, had his Macbook with him and he used voice over with it.  I 
> thought it was so cool and seemed more user friendly than Jaws.  So when my 
> parents gave me the Macbook for my birthday, along with a year’s worth of 
> training over the phone and at the Apple store through Apple cares; I was 
> utterly amazed and taken aback.  My friend, who introduced me to the Mac, was 
> in town for my birthday.  My Mom said “your Dad and I thought it would be a 
> perfect time to give it to you because Mark can help you get acquainted with 
> it while he’s here.”  I do love my Macbook and the voice over voices are so 
> much better than Jaws voice selections by far!  I am having some frustrations 
> with the Mac, but I knew that would be par for the course, because I am 
> learning a new type of computer and software.  I alos am unable to receive my 
> e-mail through my Macbook yet.  For some reason when I try to set up my G 
> mail account, either I do something wrong, or it just doesn’t want to accept 
> the settings.  Besides that I am navigating Safari quite well.  I need to 
> call and set up an appointment, with the people at the Apple store near me, 
> to start my year’s worth of training.  I also received an I-Pod shuffle from 
> my brother along with a twenty-five dollar I-tunes gift card from my niece 
> and nephew.  So I will be all set with Apple products.  I don’t have an 
> I-phone though.  I looked at one when I needed to purchase a new phone.  It 
> wouldn’t work for me.  I have very short, wide, and stubby fingers.  When I 
> tried to use the touch screen pad the commands wouldn’t work for me.  So I’m 
> sticking with Verizon.  I have their Haven phone which I love.
>  
> I’m hoping that all you experienced Mac users with voice over will be able to 
> answer all the questions that is newbie will have for you when I get stuck in 
> a jam. *smile*  I know that I’ll love switching over to the Mac even though 
> I’ll get frustrated from time-to-time.  Also I’m wondering if any of you are 
> Braille Sense product users?  And if so are you able to use your Braille 
> Sense product with the Mac?  I have a Braille Sense Plus.  I’m just curious.
>  
> Well, I thought I’d introduce myself by saying hello and look forward in 
> learning a lot from this list.
>  
> Sarah
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Re: Garage Band Tutorials again please?

[John Sanfilippo]

when I follow the link sited, I get a big black screen and no more.

js


On Apr 1, 2011, at 8:17 AM, James Malone wrote:

oh, thanks heaps. I'll save these links again. Lol
On 01/04/2011, at 10:54 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi James,
> 
> you can find them here.
> http://www.mobileaccess.org/?s=garageband
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:12 AM, James Malone wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. Can someone please post the links to the Garage Band tutorials that 
>> were done a while ago? I seem to have lost them.
>> Cheers,
>> James
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Re: Garage Band Tutorials again please?

[Ricardo Walker]

Big black screen?  Could you explain?

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On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:02 AM, John Sanfilippo wrote:

> when I follow the link sited, I get a big black screen and no more.
> 
> js
> 
> 
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 8:17 AM, James Malone wrote:
> 
> oh, thanks heaps. I'll save these links again. Lol
> On 01/04/2011, at 10:54 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi James,
>> 
>> you can find them here.
>> http://www.mobileaccess.org/?s=garageband
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
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>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:12 AM, James Malone wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys. Can someone please post the links to the Garage Band tutorials 
>>> that were done a while ago? I seem to have lost them.
>>> Cheers,
>>> James
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Re: Garage Band Tutorials again please?

[Colin M]

Hi There!
I had a look if the link would work for me!
And it did take me straight to the page!
Colin
Qapla!

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 1 Apr 2011, at 16:18, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Big black screen?  Could you explain?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:02 AM, John Sanfilippo wrote:
> 
>> when I follow the link sited, I get a big black screen and no more.
>> 
>> js
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 8:17 AM, James Malone wrote:
>> 
>> oh, thanks heaps. I'll save these links again. Lol
>> On 01/04/2011, at 10:54 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi James,
>>> 
>>> you can find them here.
>>> http://www.mobileaccess.org/?s=garageband
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:12 AM, James Malone wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys. Can someone please post the links to the Garage Band tutorials 
 that were done a while ago? I seem to have lost them.
 Cheers,
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Re: introduction

[Colin M]

Hi Sarah!
firstly welcome!
Just to add to Sarai's comments when your on blind cool tech's site open web 
rota vo+u scroll left or right until your on the links column [ you might 
already be on it so stay there!]
Then type mac and the list of options will narrow and you should find Mikes 
podcast's faster!
Colin
Qapla!

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 1 Apr 2011, at 14:39, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

> Hi Sarah:
> Dang, girl! You so made out for your Birthday! Nice going! First of all, go 
> to www.blindcooltech.com. Listen to all podcasts done by Mike Arrigo. They 
> will help you out. You will love 1-to1 training. April 13th will by my year 
> anniversary with the Mac. You will love it. We've all had those frustrations, 
> that's normal. I have a Macbook Pro, iPhone, iPod Nano, and Apple TV. I'm 
> quite happy with my Apple products. I use an apex, not a Braillesense, so 
> can't help. 
> 
> On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Sarah May wrote:
> 
>> Hi List!
>> 
>> My name is Sarah.  I’m from Minneapolis, Minnesota and am mostly blind.  For 
>> my birthday, a little over a month ago, I received a Macbook.  I have always 
>> been a PC and Jaws user.  A friend of mine, who visited me this past 
>> September, had his Macbook with him and he used voice over with it.  I 
>> thought it was so cool and seemed more user friendly than Jaws.  So when my 
>> parents gave me the Macbook for my birthday, along with a year’s worth of 
>> training over the phone and at the Apple store through Apple cares; I was 
>> utterly amazed and taken aback.  My friend, who introduced me to the Mac, 
>> was in town for my birthday.  My Mom said “your Dad and I thought it would 
>> be a perfect time to give it to you because Mark can help you get acquainted 
>> with it while he’s here.”  I do love my Macbook and the voice over voices 
>> are so much better than Jaws voice selections by far!  I am having some 
>> frustrations with the Mac, but I knew that would be par for the course, 
>> because I am learning a new type of computer and software.  I alos am unable 
>> to receive my e-mail through my Macbook yet.  For some reason when I try to 
>> set up my G mail account, either I do something wrong, or it just doesn’t 
>> want to accept the settings.  Besides that I am navigating Safari quite 
>> well.  I need to call and set up an appointment, with the people at the 
>> Apple store near me, to start my year’s worth of training.  I also received 
>> an I-Pod shuffle from my brother along with a twenty-five dollar I-tunes 
>> gift card from my niece and nephew.  So I will be all set with Apple 
>> products.  I don’t have an I-phone though.  I looked at one when I needed to 
>> purchase a new phone.  It wouldn’t work for me.  I have very short, wide, 
>> and stubby fingers.  When I tried to use the touch screen pad the commands 
>> wouldn’t work for me.  So I’m sticking with Verizon.  I have their Haven 
>> phone which I love.
>> 
>> I’m hoping that all you experienced Mac users with voice over will be able 
>> to answer all the questions that is newbie will have for you when I get 
>> stuck in a jam. *smile*  I know that I’ll love switching over to the Mac 
>> even though I’ll get frustrated from time-to-time.  Also I’m wondering if 
>> any of you are Braille Sense product users?  And if so are you able to use 
>> your Braille Sense product with the Mac?  I have a Braille Sense Plus.  I’m 
>> just curious.
>> 
>> Well, I thought I’d introduce myself by saying hello and look forward in 
>> learning a lot from this list.
>> 
>> Sarah
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Re: Accessible Games For The Mac

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Jenny, in the RS Games client, if you wanted to play against the computer or as 
they call computer players bots, simply press B when you create a new game. And 
Zach, I'll have to try that ZOom interactive fiction interpreter you speak of. 
What do you exactly do in that game?

Shawn

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Re: introduction

[carolyn Haas]

Hello Sarah:
And if like me you're not a huge fan of podcasts, The Apple site offers some 
good information on making the switch.  Just search on Apple's support for 
mac101.  It isn't made specifically for learning with Voieover, but will give 
you a good beginning understanding of the switch from Windows.


On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Sarah!
> firstly welcome!
> Just to add to Sarai's comments when your on blind cool tech's site open web 
> rota vo+u scroll left or right until your on the links column [ you might 
> already be on it so stay there!]
> Then type mac and the list of options will narrow and you should find Mikes 
> podcast's faster!
> Colin
> Qapla!
> 
> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
> 
> On 1 Apr 2011, at 14:39, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah:
>> Dang, girl! You so made out for your Birthday! Nice going! First of all, go 
>> to www.blindcooltech.com. Listen to all podcasts done by Mike Arrigo. They 
>> will help you out. You will love 1-to1 training. April 13th will by my year 
>> anniversary with the Mac. You will love it. We've all had those 
>> frustrations, that's normal. I have a Macbook Pro, iPhone, iPod Nano, and 
>> Apple TV. I'm quite happy with my Apple products. I use an apex, not a 
>> Braillesense, so can't help. 
>> 
>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Sarah May wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi List!
>>> 
>>> My name is Sarah.  I’m from Minneapolis, Minnesota and am mostly blind.  
>>> For my birthday, a little over a month ago, I received a Macbook.  I have 
>>> always been a PC and Jaws user.  A friend of mine, who visited me this past 
>>> September, had his Macbook with him and he used voice over with it.  I 
>>> thought it was so cool and seemed more user friendly than Jaws.  So when my 
>>> parents gave me the Macbook for my birthday, along with a year’s worth of 
>>> training over the phone and at the Apple store through Apple cares; I was 
>>> utterly amazed and taken aback.  My friend, who introduced me to the Mac, 
>>> was in town for my birthday.  My Mom said “your Dad and I thought it would 
>>> be a perfect time to give it to you because Mark can help you get 
>>> acquainted with it while he’s here.”  I do love my Macbook and the voice 
>>> over voices are so much better than Jaws voice selections by far!  I am 
>>> having some frustrations with the Mac, but I knew that would be par for the 
>>> course, because I am learning a new type of computer and software.  I alos 
>>> am unable to receive my e-mail through my Macbook yet.  For some reason 
>>> when I try to set up my G mail account, either I do something wrong, or it 
>>> just doesn’t want to accept the settings.  Besides that I am navigating 
>>> Safari quite well.  I need to call and set up an appointment, with the 
>>> people at the Apple store near me, to start my year’s worth of training.  I 
>>> also received an I-Pod shuffle from my brother along with a twenty-five 
>>> dollar I-tunes gift card from my niece and nephew.  So I will be all set 
>>> with Apple products.  I don’t have an I-phone though.  I looked at one when 
>>> I needed to purchase a new phone.  It wouldn’t work for me.  I have very 
>>> short, wide, and stubby fingers.  When I tried to use the touch screen pad 
>>> the commands wouldn’t work for me.  So I’m sticking with Verizon.  I have 
>>> their Haven phone which I love.
>>> 
>>> I’m hoping that all you experienced Mac users with voice over will be able 
>>> to answer all the questions that is newbie will have for you when I get 
>>> stuck in a jam. *smile*  I know that I’ll love switching over to the Mac 
>>> even though I’ll get frustrated from time-to-time.  Also I’m wondering if 
>>> any of you are Braille Sense product users?  And if so are you able to use 
>>> your Braille Sense product with the Mac?  I have a Braille Sense Plus.  I’m 
>>> just curious.
>>> 
>>> Well, I thought I’d introduce myself by saying hello and look forward in 
>>> learning a lot from this list.
>>> 
>>> Sarah
>>> 
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RE: introduction

[Sarah May]

Hi Sarah,

I chuckled loudly when I read the first line of your message.  Yes, I did
make out really well for my birthday. *grin*  My friend was envious and
jealous of me because my Mac is newer than his.  Oh well.  He can get over
it and has.

Anyhow, I will take your advice and download the podcasts from Blind Cool
tech.  I knew I would have somewhat of a learning curve with the Mac.  So I
am dealing with the frustrations as best as I can.  I look forward to the
classes and the over the phone training.

Thanks for the warm welcome Sarah along with others from the list.

Sarah

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: introduction

Hi Sarah:
Dang, girl! You so made out for your Birthday! Nice going! First of all, go
to www.blindcooltech.com. Listen to all podcasts done by Mike Arrigo. They
will help you out. You will love 1-to1 training. April 13th will by my year
anaversery with the Mac. You will love it. We've all had those frustrations,
that's normal. I have a Macbook Pro, iPhone, iPod Nano, and Apple TV. I'm
quite happy with my Apple products. I use an apex, not a Braillesense, so
can't help. 

On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Sarah May wrote:

> Hi List!
>  
> My name is Sarah.  I'm from Minneapolis, Minnesota and am mostly blind.
For my birthday, a little over a month ago, I received a Macbook.  I have
always been a PC and Jaws user.  A friend of mine, who visited me this past
September, had his Macbook with him and he used voice over with it.  I
thought it was so cool and seemed more user friendly than Jaws.  So when my
parents gave me the Macbook for my birthday, along with a year's worth of
training over the phone and at the Apple store through Apple cares; I was
utterly amazed and taken aback.  My friend, who introduced me to the Mac,
was in town for my birthday.  My Mom said "your Dad and I thought it would
be a perfect time to give it to you because Mark can help you get acquainted
with it while he's here."  I do love my Macbook and the voice over voices
are so much better than Jaws voice selections by far!  I am having some
frustrations with the Mac, but I knew that would be par for the course,
because I am learning a new type of computer and software.  I alos am unable
to receive my e-mail through my Macbook yet.  For some reason when I try to
set up my G mail account, either I do something wrong, or it just doesn't
want to accept the settings.  Besides that I am navigating Safari quite
well.  I need to call and set up an appointment, with the people at the
Apple store near me, to start my year's worth of training.  I also received
an I-Pod shuffle from my brother along with a twenty-five dollar I-tunes
gift card from my niece and nephew.  So I will be all set with Apple
products.  I don't have an I-phone though.  I looked at one when I needed to
purchase a new phone.  It wouldn't work for me.  I have very short, wide,
and stubby fingers.  When I tried to use the touch screen pad the commands
wouldn't work for me.  So I'm sticking with Verizon.  I have their Haven
phone which I love.
>  
> I'm hoping that all you experienced Mac users with voice over will be able
to answer all the questions that is newbie will have for you when I get
stuck in a jam. *smile*  I know that I'll love switching over to the Mac
even though I'll get frustrated from time-to-time.  Also I'm wondering if
any of you are Braille Sense product users?  And if so are you able to use
your Braille Sense product with the Mac?  I have a Braille Sense Plus.  I'm
just curious.
>  
> Well, I thought I'd introduce myself by saying hello and look forward in
learning a lot from this list.
>  
> Sarah
> 
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reading epub-files on the mac with itext express

[William Windels]

Hello all,
I was looking for a program on me mac to read epub-files.
I found the (I think/hope
) free app: itext express.
With this app, I am able to open the epub-files so , that's fine.
The epub-file that I was opening with text express, has some bookmarks in it.
This bookmarks where made with ibooks on my iphone.
 
There seems to be a menu-item in text express to show a bookmarkslist.
I don't know if this are the real bookmarks and also, I see no way to jump toe 
the text in the file on the place of the bookmark.

So, a summary:
Ik would like to read epub-files on my mac and jump to the bookmarks that I 
have made with ibooks on my iphone.

If there is a better (free) program to do that, just let me know.

Thanx alot for your answers,

best regards,
William 

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RE: introduction

[Sarah May]

Hi Charlie,

Thanks for the warm welcome.  I am very lucky to have a family that is able
to afford buying me a Mac right now.  I am a very lucky person indeed!  

I understand what it is like to go from being able to read the screen to
using just a screen reader.  It was many, many, years ago, but before the RP
took most of my vision when I was twelve, I used magnification software as
well.  Back then I had an Apple II E and was using Magic Slate.  How have
the times changed from then. LOL  Still, I remember how it was such an
adjustment for me to go from trying to read what was on the screen to using
what I thought was the horrible mechanical voice reading what was on the
screen to me.  At first I used an Apple screen reading program called BEX.
Then I learned how to use
The early versions of Jaws with dos programs for Word Perfect.  After that
the rest is history.  I never really got a choice if I wanted to learn Jaws
or another company's screen reading program for Windows PC computers.  I was
stuck with Jaws and that's all I had to go by.

Anyhow, I know it may take you some time to get use to using just the screen
reading program, and only listening to what's on the screen instead of
looking at it, but your eyes will so appreciate you not abusing them.  I no
longer have the ability to read any size print.  I haven't since I was
fourteen years old.  So I had to make the transition to learning how to use
the screen reading software and Braille for my ways to read pretty fast.

Yes, everyone on the list seems so friendly and helpful.  If I have any
questions I will ask.  I'm not afraid to ask questions.  It also helps me
that I have a friend who has a Macbook who uses voice over.  He said if I
needed his help to call him any time.

Well again, thanks for the welcome Charlie.

Sarah  -Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Bates
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:00 AM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: introduction

hello Sarah

Congratulations! what fantastic presents you received for your birthday! i
wish I had a lovely family like yours!

Welcome to the world of mac - you will never look back! It really is a more
user friendly platform.

I am learning voiceover too. I have low vision and have previously just used
the zooming feature within OSX but now feel like i want to use voiceover
full time to avoid straining my eyes and harming my body with bad posture.
It's quite difficult for me as even when i was on windows I was just using
magnification software (zoomtext) so i don't have a screenreader background.

The people on this list are really great. Dont be afraid to ask questions.

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RE: introduction

[Sarah May]

Hi Ann,

Thanks for the warm welcome.  Thank you so much for these helpful hints!
I'm glad to hear that the Braille Sense will work beautifully with the Mac
via blue tooth or USB.

Sarah

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: introduction

Hello Sarah,

First of all, your BrailleSense will work beautifully with your MacBook,
either via USB or BlueTooth. I tested one last summer and would have been
happy to keep it but it was needed by someone else.

When you get more familiar with your Mac, you'll be able to configure
VoiceOver commands on your BrailleSense to operate your Mac should you wish
to.

Now for a couple of useful tips. Control-Option-K turns on Keyboard Help
where you can press any key and hear what it is, or press any VoiceOver
command and hear what it does. You leave Keyboard Help by pressing the
Escape key at the top left corner of your keyboard.

Control-Option-H-H (hold down Control- and Option and press the letter H
twice) gives you all the VoiceOver commands sorted into menus. Press Return
to select a command, or Escape to leave the menus.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: introduction

[Ray Foret Jr]

Wow!!!  I have fond memories of the Apple II E and the Echo II speech 
synthesizer.  Back in those days, just about all we had were the 5.25 floppy 
drives and a program called "Work Station".  That was a group of five small 
programs encoding a word processor which could deal with a grand total of five 
pages.  Yep, just five pages.  Wow!

Of course, then came "Word Talk TM.  That was on two 5.25 floppies.  Then, 
"Braille Edit Express".  Remember those?  Kind of wish they still made Braille 
Edit Express for the Mac.  Now that was one very utilitarian program if I say 
so myself.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
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On Apr 1, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Sarah May wrote:

> 
> Hi Charlie,
> 
> Thanks for the warm welcome.  I am very lucky to have a family that is able
> to afford buying me a Mac right now.  I am a very lucky person indeed!  
> 
> I understand what it is like to go from being able to read the screen to
> using just a screen reader.  It was many, many, years ago, but before the RP
> took most of my vision when I was twelve, I used magnification software as
> well.  Back then I had an Apple II E and was using Magic Slate.  How have
> the times changed from then. LOL  Still, I remember how it was such an
> adjustment for me to go from trying to read what was on the screen to using
> what I thought was the horrible mechanical voice reading what was on the
> screen to me.  At first I used an Apple screen reading program called BEX.
> Then I learned how to use
> The early versions of Jaws with dos programs for Word Perfect.  After that
> the rest is history.  I never really got a choice if I wanted to learn Jaws
> or another company's screen reading program for Windows PC computers.  I was
> stuck with Jaws and that's all I had to go by.
> 
> Anyhow, I know it may take you some time to get use to using just the screen
> reading program, and only listening to what's on the screen instead of
> looking at it, but your eyes will so appreciate you not abusing them.  I no
> longer have the ability to read any size print.  I haven't since I was
> fourteen years old.  So I had to make the transition to learning how to use
> the screen reading software and Braille for my ways to read pretty fast.
> 
> Yes, everyone on the list seems so friendly and helpful.  If I have any
> questions I will ask.  I'm not afraid to ask questions.  It also helps me
> that I have a friend who has a Macbook who uses voice over.  He said if I
> needed his help to call him any time.
> 
> Well again, thanks for the welcome Charlie.
> 
> Sarah  -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Bates
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:00 AM
> To: MacVisionaries
> Subject: Re: introduction
> 
> hello Sarah
> 
> Congratulations! what fantastic presents you received for your birthday! i
> wish I had a lovely family like yours!
> 
> Welcome to the world of mac - you will never look back! It really is a more
> user friendly platform.
> 
> I am learning voiceover too. I have low vision and have previously just used
> the zooming feature within OSX but now feel like i want to use voiceover
> full time to avoid straining my eyes and harming my body with bad posture.
> It's quite difficult for me as even when i was on windows I was just using
> magnification software (zoomtext) so i don't have a screenreader background.
> 
> The people on this list are really great. Dont be afraid to ask questions.
> 
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RE: introduction

[Sarah May]

 

Hi Ray,

 

I think BEX was the Braille Edit or Express program you are talking about.
I hated the speech for the Apple II Es.  They sounded so harsh and
mechaniacal.  For someone who was just starting to use a screen reader at
the time, it was hard for me to adjust because I hated the sound quality of
the speech.  No we have these wonderful programs like voice over and the
sappy speech voices to choose from with Jaws.  The screen reading and speech
technology has sure evolved for the better since the 1980s.  I do miss
though playing Wagons's West.  That was a computer game for the Magic Slate
program for the Apple II E.  You were like the travelers going west on a
wagon train.  It was a lot of fun!

 

Sarah

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: introduction

 

Wow!!!  I have fond memories of the Apple II E and the Echo II speech
synthesizer.  Back in those days, just about all we had were the 5.25 floppy
drives and a program called "Work Station".  That was a group of five small
programs encoding a word processor which could deal with a grand total of
five pages.  Yep, just five pages.  Wow!

 

Of course, then came "Word Talk TM.  That was on two 5.25 floppies.  Then,
"Braille Edit Express".  Remember those?  Kind of wish they still made
Braille Edit Express for the Mac.  Now that was one very utilitarian program
if I say so myself.

 

 

Sincerely,

The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

 

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:

barefootedray

 

Facebook:

facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1  

 

On Apr 1, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Sarah May wrote:






Hi Charlie,

Thanks for the warm welcome.  I am very lucky to have a family that is able
to afford buying me a Mac right now.  I am a very lucky person indeed!  

I understand what it is like to go from being able to read the screen to
using just a screen reader.  It was many, many, years ago, but before the RP
took most of my vision when I was twelve, I used magnification software as
well.  Back then I had an Apple II E and was using Magic Slate.  How have
the times changed from then. LOL  Still, I remember how it was such an
adjustment for me to go from trying to read what was on the screen to using
what I thought was the horrible mechanical voice reading what was on the
screen to me.  At first I used an Apple screen reading program called BEX.
Then I learned how to use
The early versions of Jaws with dos programs for Word Perfect.  After that
the rest is history.  I never really got a choice if I wanted to learn Jaws
or another company's screen reading program for Windows PC computers.  I was
stuck with Jaws and that's all I had to go by.

Anyhow, I know it may take you some time to get use to using just the screen
reading program, and only listening to what's on the screen instead of
looking at it, but your eyes will so appreciate you not abusing them.  I no
longer have the ability to read any size print.  I haven't since I was
fourteen years old.  So I had to make the transition to learning how to use
the screen reading software and Braille for my ways to read pretty fast.

Yes, everyone on the list seems so friendly and helpful.  If I have any
questions I will ask.  I'm not afraid to ask questions.  It also helps me
that I have a friend who has a Macbook who uses voice over.  He said if I
needed his help to call him any time.

Well again, thanks for the welcome Charlie.

Sarah  -Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Bates
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:00 AM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: introduction

hello Sarah

Congratulations! what fantastic presents you received for your birthday! i
wish I had a lovely family like yours!

Welcome to the world of mac - you will never look back! It really is a more
user friendly platform.

I am learning voiceover too. I have low vision and have previously just used
the zooming feature within OSX but now feel like i want to use voiceover
full time to avoid straining my eyes and harming my body with bad posture.
It's quite difficult for me as even when i was on windows I was just using
magnification software (zoomtext) so i don't have a screenreader background.

The people on this list are really great. Dont be afraid to ask questions.

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Re: introduction

[Kaare Dehard]

also voiceover does have some pretty good help available and of course as 
mentioned the keyboard help. The voiceover help is accessed with vo-h.

Cheers, and good to see you've given this platform a chance.
On 2011-04-01, at 1:25 PM, Sarah May wrote:

> 
> Hi Sarah,
> 
> I chuckled loudly when I read the first line of your message.  Yes, I did
> make out really well for my birthday. *grin*  My friend was envious and
> jealous of me because my Mac is newer than his.  Oh well.  He can get over
> it and has.
> 
> Anyhow, I will take your advice and download the podcasts from Blind Cool
> tech.  I knew I would have somewhat of a learning curve with the Mac.  So I
> am dealing with the frustrations as best as I can.  I look forward to the
> classes and the over the phone training.
> 
> Thanks for the warm welcome Sarah along with others from the list.
> 
> Sarah
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:40 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: introduction
> 
> Hi Sarah:
> Dang, girl! You so made out for your Birthday! Nice going! First of all, go
> to www.blindcooltech.com. Listen to all podcasts done by Mike Arrigo. They
> will help you out. You will love 1-to1 training. April 13th will by my year
> anaversery with the Mac. You will love it. We've all had those frustrations,
> that's normal. I have a Macbook Pro, iPhone, iPod Nano, and Apple TV. I'm
> quite happy with my Apple products. I use an apex, not a Braillesense, so
> can't help. 
> 
> On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Sarah May wrote:
> 
>> Hi List!
>> 
>> My name is Sarah.  I'm from Minneapolis, Minnesota and am mostly blind.
> For my birthday, a little over a month ago, I received a Macbook.  I have
> always been a PC and Jaws user.  A friend of mine, who visited me this past
> September, had his Macbook with him and he used voice over with it.  I
> thought it was so cool and seemed more user friendly than Jaws.  So when my
> parents gave me the Macbook for my birthday, along with a year's worth of
> training over the phone and at the Apple store through Apple cares; I was
> utterly amazed and taken aback.  My friend, who introduced me to the Mac,
> was in town for my birthday.  My Mom said "your Dad and I thought it would
> be a perfect time to give it to you because Mark can help you get acquainted
> with it while he's here."  I do love my Macbook and the voice over voices
> are so much better than Jaws voice selections by far!  I am having some
> frustrations with the Mac, but I knew that would be par for the course,
> because I am learning a new type of computer and software.  I alos am unable
> to receive my e-mail through my Macbook yet.  For some reason when I try to
> set up my G mail account, either I do something wrong, or it just doesn't
> want to accept the settings.  Besides that I am navigating Safari quite
> well.  I need to call and set up an appointment, with the people at the
> Apple store near me, to start my year's worth of training.  I also received
> an I-Pod shuffle from my brother along with a twenty-five dollar I-tunes
> gift card from my niece and nephew.  So I will be all set with Apple
> products.  I don't have an I-phone though.  I looked at one when I needed to
> purchase a new phone.  It wouldn't work for me.  I have very short, wide,
> and stubby fingers.  When I tried to use the touch screen pad the commands
> wouldn't work for me.  So I'm sticking with Verizon.  I have their Haven
> phone which I love.
>> 
>> I'm hoping that all you experienced Mac users with voice over will be able
> to answer all the questions that is newbie will have for you when I get
> stuck in a jam. *smile*  I know that I'll love switching over to the Mac
> even though I'll get frustrated from time-to-time.  Also I'm wondering if
> any of you are Braille Sense product users?  And if so are you able to use
> your Braille Sense product with the Mac?  I have a Braille Sense Plus.  I'm
> just curious.
>> 
>> Well, I thought I'd introduce myself by saying hello and look forward in
> learning a lot from this list.
>> 
>> Sarah
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> 
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Re: Skype 2.8 will be available for seven days if anyone on list needs it.

[Rose Morales]

Hi Michael,
I saw your post and thought your dmg file would be a wonderful edition to my 
site. I was sure I put Skype 5.0 up there, but I wasn't sure I had 2.8. But 
upon looking, I realized I actually have a later build of Skype 2.8 on my site 
than the one you posted. The link to the build I have is

http://chicksdigmacs.net/UsefulApps/Skype_2.8.0.863.dmg

It's very thoughtful of you to put that build up though, and I'm sure a lot of 
others appreciate it too.

Take care,
Rose

On Apr 1, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

> Hello Jes,
> 
> I have downloaded the DMG file and I thank you for it.
> 
> I feel better, just knowing that I can go back to the older version if I need 
> to, but I'm kind of jazzed about trying to figure out how to accomplish a 
> couple of other things that others have already accomplished.
> 
> Kindest regards from Austria,
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 31,Mar,2011, at 11:32 PM, Jes Smith wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Today is March 31st, 2011. Seeing as there are people who may need Skype 
>> 2.8, I will make it available to you for one week. IF you need it, go to the 
>> following link:
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4707788/Skype_2.8.0.659.dmg
>> Again, this is only for one week. after that, the file will no longer be 
>> available.
>> Take care.
>> Jes
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Accessible database?

[Johchi]

Hi folks,

Thanks for answering all of my questions for me.

Does anyone know of a stand alone accessible relational database for the 
MacBook Pro?


Thanks again,

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Re: Hotspots

[Jes Smith]

Hi Gail and list,
After much patience, the podcast is finally up on Blind Cool Tech. Just look 
for the phrase hot spots. IF that doesn't work, look for Jes Smith, and you 
will find it.


On Mar 31, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Gail the U. S. Male wrote:

> Where can I find your podcast? Thanks.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jes Smith
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:41 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hotspots
> 
> Ah, thank you.
> 
> On Mar 31, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jes,
>> You did a super job on your podcast, I think I missed the part about
> pressing shift,  I don't believe you should do the whole thing over.
>> Courtney
>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Jes Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm concerned that I did not make the process of setting hotspots clear
> enough in my podcast. Should I redo the entire show?
>>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2011, at 10:41 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 I'm trying to set hot spots in voiceover with vo plus the number that I
> want, but it's not saying hot spot saved. Is there a way to enable hot spots
> in vo, it doesn't seem to be working here?
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help with vm

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,

Ok, I wasn't sure where to ask this, so I'm asking here.  If it's off topic, 
people can answer me off list, please!

I got vm fusion all loaded onto my mac without a hitch, but now am having 
problems putting stuff, like a screen reader, and k 1000, into the vm.  I've 
already listened to Mike O's podcast on vm's, which was helpful, but it didn't 
go into loading stuff onto the vm.

any help would be great.

Alternatively, can somebody suggest good scanning software for the mac?  It 
doesn't have to be the exact equal of k1000, 'cause I know that's impossible, 
but good recognition, etc, is a must.

Thanks,
Caitlyn

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Re: Accessible Games For The Mac

[Courtney Curran]

Hi,
Oh, wow, audioquake works on the mac, do you have a specific URL to get it?
Courtney
On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:41 AM, James Malone wrote:

> Oh, don't forget Audio Quake on the mac. I have yet to try it, but apparently 
> its great.
> On 01/04/2011, at 4:26 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
> 
>> Hi. I was just reading the latest digest for the list and someone asked 
>> about accessible games for the Mac. And the answer is, yes, there are indeed 
>> other accessible games for this lovely computer besides Chess. There's a 
>> company called RS Games that have made their games cross-platformed. Their 
>> game client includes Monopoly, Uno, Blackjack, and Yatzee. Check them out at 
>> http://zanosoft.net/rsgames/ and try them out for yourself. The games are 
>> self-voicing so you can turn off or mute Voice Over.
>> 
>> Shawn
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Re: Accessible Games For The Mac

[Kaare Dehard]

I had a bad time with it, I clicked on the download link for the installer and 
got jibberish on my screen... No downloads folder with an install.

On 2011-04-01, at 4:58 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:

> Hi,
> Oh, wow, audioquake works on the mac, do you have a specific URL to get it?
> Courtney
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:41 AM, James Malone wrote:
> 
>> Oh, don't forget Audio Quake on the mac. I have yet to try it, but 
>> apparently its great.
>> On 01/04/2011, at 4:26 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi. I was just reading the latest digest for the list and someone asked 
>>> about accessible games for the Mac. And the answer is, yes, there are 
>>> indeed other accessible games for this lovely computer besides Chess. 
>>> There's a company called RS Games that have made their games 
>>> cross-platformed. Their game client includes Monopoly, Uno, Blackjack, and 
>>> Yatzee. Check them out at http://zanosoft.net/rsgames/ and try them out for 
>>> yourself. The games are self-voicing so you can turn off or mute Voice Over.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
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Re: Accessible Games For The Mac

[Zachary Kline]

Hi Shawn,
Interactive fiction is a game style that was popular in the 1980's and to a 
lesser extent later on.  Basically, you are given a bunch of text describing a 
situation and have to react to it by typing commands.  If you've ever played 
muds or games of that type, this should be pretty familiar.  Another term that 
is sometimes used is text adventures, though that's a bit old-fashioned in some 
circles.  
Most interactive fiction is written in a specialty programming language, of 
which there are several, and compiled to a special cross-platform format.  Zoom 
lets you play games compiled for the most popular of these.  If you're 
interested in the subject, I recommend Googling: interactive fiction will come 
up with several sites which can do a better job of explaining things than I 
have here.  
Hope this helps,
Zack.
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> Jenny, in the RS Games client, if you wanted to play against the computer or 
> as they call computer players bots, simply press B when you create a new 
> game. And Zach, I'll have to try that ZOom interactive fiction interpreter 
> you speak of. What do you exactly do in that game?
> 
> Shawn
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logic band the new logic pro

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi list,

This is intriguing. A new post on synthtopia has a first view of logic band, or 
logic 2011.

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2011/04/01/mobilerhythm-mr-606-classic-drum-machine-for-ios/
If they now call it logic band, i have this feeling some of the UI style, and 
probably accessibility also takes from garage band. Just speculating, but 
sounds like it, doesn't it? Don't it? Donnit




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archiving: shortcut in menu

[William Windels]

Hello all,
I would like to add a shortcut to the 

Archieve 'active object' menu and context-item in finder.

This seems not to work with the keyboard options in system preferences.
I type there the menu-option "Archive"but there is also some parameter with the 
selected object between ''.

It seems normal that I should give also that parameter in the keyboard settings 
of the system preferences but I don't know how to do that  since the value 
between ''is always different.

Is there a alternative how I can manage this?

Thanx for your hints,

best regards,
William 

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on the logic stuff, please forget it I've been fooled

[Yuma Decaux]

I hate it when it happens. Mostly because the cycle seems right, its saturday 
morning, good mood, about to have great brunch, and poof you get this link on 
your rss newsfeeder. But then i can excuse myself, its the 2nd of april here :)

Sorry for having roused anyone if roused.

Yuma 

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Re: introduction

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
Just remember, Voiceover isn't Jaws, and the Mac isn't Windows. If you treat 
them as individuals, you will be fine.
On Apr 1, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Sarah May wrote:

> 
> Hi Sarah,
> 
> I chuckled loudly when I read the first line of your message.  Yes, I did
> make out really well for my birthday. *grin*  My friend was envious and
> jealous of me because my Mac is newer than his.  Oh well.  He can get over
> it and has.
> 
> Anyhow, I will take your advice and download the podcasts from Blind Cool
> tech.  I knew I would have somewhat of a learning curve with the Mac.  So I
> am dealing with the frustrations as best as I can.  I look forward to the
> classes and the over the phone training.
> 
> Thanks for the warm welcome Sarah along with others from the list.
> 
> Sarah
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:40 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: introduction
> 
> Hi Sarah:
> Dang, girl! You so made out for your Birthday! Nice going! First of all, go
> to www.blindcooltech.com. Listen to all podcasts done by Mike Arrigo. They
> will help you out. You will love 1-to1 training. April 13th will by my year
> anaversery with the Mac. You will love it. We've all had those frustrations,
> that's normal. I have a Macbook Pro, iPhone, iPod Nano, and Apple TV. I'm
> quite happy with my Apple products. I use an apex, not a Braillesense, so
> can't help. 
> 
> On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Sarah May wrote:
> 
>> Hi List!
>> 
>> My name is Sarah.  I'm from Minneapolis, Minnesota and am mostly blind.
> For my birthday, a little over a month ago, I received a Macbook.  I have
> always been a PC and Jaws user.  A friend of mine, who visited me this past
> September, had his Macbook with him and he used voice over with it.  I
> thought it was so cool and seemed more user friendly than Jaws.  So when my
> parents gave me the Macbook for my birthday, along with a year's worth of
> training over the phone and at the Apple store through Apple cares; I was
> utterly amazed and taken aback.  My friend, who introduced me to the Mac,
> was in town for my birthday.  My Mom said "your Dad and I thought it would
> be a perfect time to give it to you because Mark can help you get acquainted
> with it while he's here."  I do love my Macbook and the voice over voices
> are so much better than Jaws voice selections by far!  I am having some
> frustrations with the Mac, but I knew that would be par for the course,
> because I am learning a new type of computer and software.  I alos am unable
> to receive my e-mail through my Macbook yet.  For some reason when I try to
> set up my G mail account, either I do something wrong, or it just doesn't
> want to accept the settings.  Besides that I am navigating Safari quite
> well.  I need to call and set up an appointment, with the people at the
> Apple store near me, to start my year's worth of training.  I also received
> an I-Pod shuffle from my brother along with a twenty-five dollar I-tunes
> gift card from my niece and nephew.  So I will be all set with Apple
> products.  I don't have an I-phone though.  I looked at one when I needed to
> purchase a new phone.  It wouldn't work for me.  I have very short, wide,
> and stubby fingers.  When I tried to use the touch screen pad the commands
> wouldn't work for me.  So I'm sticking with Verizon.  I have their Haven
> phone which I love.
>> 
>> I'm hoping that all you experienced Mac users with voice over will be able
> to answer all the questions that is newbie will have for you when I get
> stuck in a jam. *smile*  I know that I'll love switching over to the Mac
> even though I'll get frustrated from time-to-time.  Also I'm wondering if
> any of you are Braille Sense product users?  And if so are you able to use
> your Braille Sense product with the Mac?  I have a Braille Sense Plus.  I'm
> just curious.
>> 
>> Well, I thought I'd introduce myself by saying hello and look forward in
> learning a lot from this list.
>> 
>> Sarah
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Re: Getting used to the screen on a Macbook pro

[Charlie Bates]

Thanks Ricardo - that worked!

On Apr 1, 8:12 pm, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When on the link to the podcast you can just press option return or, interact 
> with the link and bring up the context menu with VO shift M.  I believe there 
> is a download option in here.
>
> hth
>
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
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>
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:17 AM, Kimberly wrote:
>
>
>
> > Interestingly, I tried with the Mac when I got home and could play the
> > podcast with no problem, but I can't figure out how to download them which I
> > figured was just my inexperience with the Mac. The one I listened to was
> > very informative, but I think it would be even better if I could play it on
> > my vr stream while I follow along doing things on the Mac.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Charlie Bates
> > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:52 AM
> > To: MacVisionaries
> > Subject: Re: Getting used to the screen on a Macbook pro
>
> > Hi Kimberly
>
> > I am having trouble getting the podcasts to work also. I thought it
> > was just my machine! :(
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Re: Accessible database?

[Bryan Jones]

Hello Johchi,

You might want to give Bento a try. I can't personally speak to it's 
accessibility or functionality, but others on this list have said it is 
accessible. You can get a free 30 day trial to get a feel for it. If Bento 
doesn't meet your functionality needs, I think the next step up is it's big 
sibling FileMaker. They are both put out by the company named FileMaker, which 
I think has some sort of connection with Apple.

Here's a link to the Bento page where you can get more info and download a 
trial version. From that page you can also navigate to the higher-end FileMaker 
offerings if desired.
http://www.filemaker.com/products/bento/mac.html

HTH,
Bryan

On Apr 1, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Johchi wrote:
> Does anyone know of a stand alone accessible relational database for the 
> MacBook Pro?

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Re: Text Writer

[Esther]

Hi Kevin,

You're perfectly correct about this: on the iPhone TextWriter does not have an 
initial button for forward delete.  I tested the app on an iPad because I knew 
Mary was trying out her keyboard with her new iPad, but I didn't load 
TextWriter on an iPhone or iPod Touch at the time I posted my findings.  The 
behavior is the same, but there are only nine buttons on the top row, and there 
is no forward delete button  This also meand that the button placement over 
letter keys will be different from my description for the iPad in portrait 
mode.  The top row of buttons are also very slightly above the positions of the 
iPhone's home button when you hold the device in landscape mode.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Mar 31, 2011, at 07:04 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:

Dear Esther,
Thanks so much for turning us all on to Textwriter. While your
explanation was very thorough, I did notice one weird thing. On my
keyboard, there is no forward delete key in either landscape or
portrait orientation. I have an iPhone, not an iPad. Is this the
reason?
Thanks,
Kevin

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RE: introduction

[Sarah May]

Hi.  I know that the Mac isn't windows and that Voice over isn't Jaws.  I
will treat them as their own individuals.  Thanks for the advice though.

Sarah

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 7:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: introduction

Hi:
Just remember, Voiceover isn't Jaws, and the Mac isn't Windows. If you treat
them as individuals, you will be fine.
On Apr 1, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Sarah May wrote:

> 
> Hi Sarah,
> 
> I chuckled loudly when I read the first line of your message.  Yes, I 
> did make out really well for my birthday. *grin*  My friend was 
> envious and jealous of me because my Mac is newer than his.  Oh well.  
> He can get over it and has.
> 
> Anyhow, I will take your advice and download the podcasts from Blind 
> Cool tech.  I knew I would have somewhat of a learning curve with the 
> Mac.  So I am dealing with the frustrations as best as I can.  I look 
> forward to the classes and the over the phone training.
> 
> Thanks for the warm welcome Sarah along with others from the list.
> 
> Sarah
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai 
> Bucciarelli
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:40 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: introduction
> 
> Hi Sarah:
> Dang, girl! You so made out for your Birthday! Nice going! First of 
> all, go to www.blindcooltech.com. Listen to all podcasts done by Mike 
> Arrigo. They will help you out. You will love 1-to1 training. April 
> 13th will by my year anaversery with the Mac. You will love it. We've 
> all had those frustrations, that's normal. I have a Macbook Pro, 
> iPhone, iPod Nano, and Apple TV. I'm quite happy with my Apple 
> products. I use an apex, not a Braillesense, so can't help.
> 
> On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Sarah May wrote:
> 
>> Hi List!
>> 
>> My name is Sarah.  I'm from Minneapolis, Minnesota and am mostly blind.
> For my birthday, a little over a month ago, I received a Macbook.  I 
> have always been a PC and Jaws user.  A friend of mine, who visited me 
> this past September, had his Macbook with him and he used voice over 
> with it.  I thought it was so cool and seemed more user friendly than 
> Jaws.  So when my parents gave me the Macbook for my birthday, along 
> with a year's worth of training over the phone and at the Apple store 
> through Apple cares; I was utterly amazed and taken aback.  My friend, 
> who introduced me to the Mac, was in town for my birthday.  My Mom 
> said "your Dad and I thought it would be a perfect time to give it to 
> you because Mark can help you get acquainted with it while he's here."  
> I do love my Macbook and the voice over voices are so much better than 
> Jaws voice selections by far!  I am having some frustrations with the 
> Mac, but I knew that would be par for the course, because I am 
> learning a new type of computer and software.  I alos am unable to 
> receive my e-mail through my Macbook yet.  For some reason when I try 
> to set up my G mail account, either I do something wrong, or it just 
> doesn't want to accept the settings.  Besides that I am navigating 
> Safari quite well.  I need to call and set up an appointment, with the 
> people at the Apple store near me, to start my year's worth of 
> training.  I also received an I-Pod shuffle from my brother along with 
> a twenty-five dollar I-tunes gift card from my niece and nephew.  So I 
> will be all set with Apple products.  I don't have an I-phone though.  
> I looked at one when I needed to purchase a new phone.  It wouldn't 
> work for me.  I have very short, wide, and stubby fingers.  When I 
> tried to use the touch screen pad the commands wouldn't work for me.  So
I'm sticking with Verizon.  I have their Haven phone which I love.
>> 
>> I'm hoping that all you experienced Mac users with voice over will be 
>> able
> to answer all the questions that is newbie will have for you when I 
> get stuck in a jam. *smile*  I know that I'll love switching over to 
> the Mac even though I'll get frustrated from time-to-time.  Also I'm 
> wondering if any of you are Braille Sense product users?  And if so 
> are you able to use your Braille Sense product with the Mac?  I have a 
> Braille Sense Plus.  I'm just curious.
>> 
>> Well, I thought I'd introduce myself by saying hello and look forward 
>> in
> learning a lot from this list.
>> 
>> Sarah
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So It Looks Like Calibre is Not Accessible?

[Teresa Cochran]

I'm getting lots of "unknowns". Is there any other e-book management software 
that converts formats, etc.?

TiA,
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Re: So It Looks Like Calibre is Not Accessible?

[Zachary Kline]

Hi Teresa,
Calibre actually can be used if you confine yourself to command line programs 
in Terminal.  It ships with several rather nice scripts, including 
ebook-convert to do command line conversions. As far as GUI programs, I can 
recommend Stanza.  It will convert between most popular formats. I can't recall 
the home page just at the moment, but GOogle is your friend.
Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> I'm getting lots of "unknowns". Is there any other e-book management software 
> that converts formats, etc.?
> 
> TiA,
> Teresa
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Re: So It Looks Like Calibre is Not Accessible?

[Teresa Cochran]

Thanks, Zack. I do have stanza as well, but haven't played with it a whole lot. 
I may look into the scripts for Calibre, too.

Thanks again,
Teresa
On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:48 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:

> Hi Teresa,
> Calibre actually can be used if you confine yourself to command line programs 
> in Terminal.  It ships with several rather nice scripts, including 
> ebook-convert to do command line conversions. As far as GUI programs, I can 
> recommend Stanza.  It will convert between most popular formats. I can't 
> recall the home page just at the moment, but GOogle is your friend.
> Hope this helps,
> Zack.
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> I'm getting lots of "unknowns". Is there any other e-book management 
>> software that converts formats, etc.?
>> 
>> TiA,
>> Teresa
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Accessible Games For The Mac and Kind Words

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi. I forgot to say that if anyone needs help with RS Games or if you just want 
a practice partner, I'm always ready to help out. I may not be in the client 
all the time, but when I am, I like playing with people. My ID on there is BBS. 
If you have any questions you'd like to ask me, send them to me off list. And 
finally, I have a Skype account so if I'm not online in the client, you can 
reach me there. My Skype name if people want to add me is bbstheblindrapper.
I would like to close this message by saying one thing to the Mac newbies on 
this list. I for one am glad that you took  the plunge into something that may 
not be in your comfort zone yet. But once you keep using this wonderful 
computer like I have been, you'll find that this thing isn't so bad at all. Who 
knew that I'd be a happy Mac user after the fact that I swore that I'd never 
switch from Windows, but then again I never heard about Voice Over. I never 
heard about it until Leopard came out and that's also when I heard rumors about 
Alex and his special talent of taking breaths in between sentences. So after 
listening to a friend's boastings and watching Youtube videos about it, I 
decided that my next computer had to be a Mac and here we are today. Six months 
ago today. God has the time flew. So even though it's quite the learning 
process to use this thing, it's worth it!

Shawn

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