Re: IOS 4.1, blutooth keyboard and the iPod Touch as a notetaker for school?

[Ricardo Walker]

I believe he was saying you can copy the text from the note in Mail and paste 
it in to Text edit on the Mac.

hth
On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> There is no text edit in ios4 but yes you can do that from the apple mail 
> program. I did not know you an hit enter in a note.
> 
> Thanks for that.On Sep 12, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
> 
>> The title of the notes show up in the subject line, but the rest of the 
>> notes are in the body of the message.  For example, if you add a new note 
>> and you put the word "schedule" in the top of the document, that will be in 
>> the subject line.  Whatever you put below the word "schedule" will be in the 
>> body of the message.  You can paste that into TextEdit and save it.
>> 
>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> You can email notes to yourself but I believe they will show up all in the 
>>> subject line or something. that part still confuses me.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>> 
 Good morning folks:
 
 The subject line pretty much says it all, except for one thing.  Suppose I 
 use this as a notetaker, can I transfer the notes to my Macbook and open 
 them in Text Edit or Pages?  Is this done through iTunes?  I don't suppose 
 you can E-mail them as attachments from the iPod Touch, or maybe you can?  
 Thoughts and comments appreciated.  This set up would most definitely be 
 much lighter than even my 13 inch MBP.  :)
 
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Re: Mac library sound files for ring tones and alarms [was Re: Alarms and Sirens]

[Teresa Cochran]

Thanks so much for that very informative post, Esther. I learned something. :)

Teresa
On Sep 12, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Hope this is not off topic, but Jody's search for an iPhone app that would 
> play a doorbell for dog training reminded me that Mac users who bought 
> previous versions of the iLife Suite for multimedia on their computers 
> (iPhoto, iMovie, iWeb, iDVD, and GarageBand for music) have access to the 
> audio loops and many sound effects that installed with these apps on their 
> computer.  They're in:
> 
> /Library/Audio/Apple Loops/Apple/
> 
> and there are two main folders: "Apple Loops for Garageband" and "iLife Sound 
> Effects". You can simply play them, or you can make them into ringtones.  
> (Navigate to them in Finder with the Command-Shift-G "Go to Folder" shortcut, 
> then type or paste in "/Library/Audio/Apple Loops/Apple/" into the dialog box 
> and press return.)
> 
>> 
>> The "iLife Sound Effects" folder has lots of interesting folders, such as 
>> "Animals" -- with chimpanzees, dogs, frogs, loons, seagulls, roosters, 
>> sheep, brontasaurus wails, etc. or the "Work - Home " folder with cell phone 
>> ringing and dialing sounds, telephone busy, dial tones, fax machine tones, 
>> etc.  You can QuickLook any of these by starting at the first folder in a 
>> Finder list view, pressing space bar to let QuickLook start playing the 
>> sound, and then using your down arrow key to move on to QuickLook the next 
>> file to sample the sounds.
>> 
>> These files all have .caf extensions, so you can't add them directly to 
>> iTunes. (The .caf stands for "Core Audio File", which is like AIFF -- or WAV 
>> on Windows -- but is an extended format version that is not limited to the 4 
>> GB maximum size and number of channels that AIFF and WAV support.)
>> 
>> If you have Amadeus Pro, you can simply open these files with that 
>> application and convert to AIFF or other format.  For example, if you want 
>> to create a ringtone from the "Cell Phone Ringing.caf" file or "Old 
>> Telephone Ring.caf" file in the "Work - Home" folder, use the contextual 
>> menu (VO-Shift-M) to open the file with Amadeus Pro, then select all 
>> (Command-A) and choose the "Export as iPhone Ringtone…" option from the FIle 
>> menu on the menu bar (VO-M to menu bar, press "F" to go to "File", arrow 
>> down and press "E" to go to "Export as iPhone Ringtone…", press return).  
>> The sound clip will show up under your iTunes Ringtones. (You might want to 
>> edit the name to remove the .caf extension).
> 
> To get back to Jody's original thread, there are some Klaxon sirens under 
> Transportation, and weirder warp drive alarms and space ship sirens under 
> Sci-Fi.  Plus, there are a lot of neat Foley effects.
> 
> For new Mac users who have not purchased the iLife suite of apps -- you might 
> want to hold off on this, because the rumor is that Apple is about to release 
> a new version (iLife '11) in the next few weeks.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Sep 12, 2010, Jody W Ianuzzi wrote:
> 
>> I was looking for an app that would play a doorbell so I could use it in dog
>> training.  I found a FREE app called Alarms and sirens.   Imention it
>> because it is accessible with Voice Over.  it has a dozen or so sounds
>> including doorbell, police siren, emergency siren, back up alarm and a space
>> alert siren.
>> 
>> It is just a fun sounds app but it does work with VO.
>> 
>> OH, and my dog was not fooled by the doorbell sound from the phone.  
>> 
>> JODY
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RE: BlueAnt Q1 headset and iPad [was Re: iPhone: The Missing Manual]

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Geoff,\

 

Thanks for that.

 

Interesting you say that the software updater will work with jaws. I
couldn't see the buttons required to click to make things work. That was on
a windows xp machine with jaws 10. I did also have the issue with not being
able to get the machine to see the q1. It gets to you aftr a while and I
know I started thinking my headset was  toast. But I'll have to try the
volume thing now. Although I wonder also if I got the corrct updater as mine
didn't say the q1, it had q2, s1 and t1 products listed, but the q1 wasn't
in the list.unless I and  my sighted assistance missed it.

 

Anyway I'll grab the updater that esther has given the link for and give
that a try.

 

Cheers.

 

Simon f

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Waaler
Sent: Monday, 13 September 2010 12:37 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BlueAnt Q1 headset and iPad [was Re: iPhone: The Missing
Manual]

 

Greetings Simon and others,

 

The updater is indeed accessible with JFW.  As I recall you do need to use
the JFW cursor and maybe simulate a mouse click or two but it's definitely
doable.

 

You will want to read the directions presented on the window carefully
though.  I recall going nuts because my Netbook would not recognize the Q1
as a USB device.  After several attempts I read the Window and noticed the
instructions stated very clearly that you needed to hold down the volume up
button while connecting the headset.

 

Lastly for those who don't have a way to ascertain their Q1's serial number
necessary to complete Blueant's signup procedure, the link Esther posted for
the updater is still active

 

http://www.sendspace.com/file/70ciqf

 

This updater only runs on 32 bit Windows, but will check Blueant's site for
the latest firmware (8.21 presently).

 

Best regards.

Geoff

 

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From: Simon Fogarty   

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:35 AM

Subject: RE: BlueAnt Q1 headset and iPad [was Re: iPhone: The Missing
Manual]

 

Hi Esther,

 

Yeah I paired it with my nokia phone. It comes up with q1 v8.19. I've signed
up to the blueant wireless site today and downloaded their update
application.

Turns out it isn't accessible with jaws. And it doesn't work on 64bit
systems or mac osx

 

So going to try it later on an xp machine ans see how that works out.

 

Cheers and I'll let you know how it works out.

 

Simon f

 

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2010 4:08 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BlueAnt Q1 headset and iPad [was Re: iPhone: The Missing
Manual]

 

Hi Simon,

 

I think that if you pair the headset to your Mac it will show up with the
complete version number identifying your device.  It sounds to me as though
you're running a version before the A2DP update, and that's why your iPad
isn't seeing it.  I found an old post of Geoff's on the viphone list, where
he uploaded the version 8.19 firmware. I don't know whether this is still
active, but he ran this on an XP machine, and I'll paste it in below. You'll
have to read the documentation at the BlueAnt site for instructions on how
to update.  

 

http://docs.blueantwireless.com/en/Q1/

 

On Mar 11, 2010, at 12:48, Geoff Waaler wrote:

 

In response to a private note I uploaded this 10MB file to sendspace.  The
link is:

 

http://www.sendspace.com/file/70ciqf

 

Happy updating!

Geoff

 

Also, here's the link to another post on the viphone list about running the
firmware updater:

http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/f0de5756160e49b2

 

I'm limited in how much I can help with this, since I ran the setup of the
BlueAnt Q1 for someone else, and had to borrow an XP machine to do this.
Geoff's version was for version 8.19, but once the software is on your
machine, it should automatically check for the latest version updates.

 

HTH.  Cheers,

 

Esther

 

On Sep 8, 2010, at 23:59, Simon Fogarty wrote:

 

Hi Esther,

 

I'm not sure of the firmware version.

whenI sinc the q1 with my mobile, which is a nokia n86, it says q1 v8. But
doesn't say anything more. And I haven't been able to find the version
command to have the device tell me.

 

 do you know of another / easy way to get the exact firmware version for the
device?

Can you give it a voice command to get the version, or is it written
somewhere in the documentation?

 

 I know my ipad is up to date and it has no problems with my nokia.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

 

Cheers

 

Simon

 

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:43 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: BlueAnt Q1 headset and iPad [was Re: iPhone: The Missing Manual]

 

Hi Simon,

 

I replied earlier to y

RE: ipad speaker hiss

[Simon Fogarty]

I can't notice anything on my ipad. But I'm not saying it doesn't. just
currently I can't hear it doing it.
 

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Shockley
Sent: Monday, 13 September 2010 9:21 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ipad speaker hiss

Hi,
I just noticed this once you said something about it. My iPad does this too.
Don't know why that is, but I guess it's OK since it's not hurting anything.
HTH,
Jeffrey
On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Holly Anderson wrote:

> Hi all.  Darcy and I both just got iPads yesterday.  We are both having
this problem.  My ipad speaker constantly emits a slight hiss.  Even if its
asleep it does this, I've tried turning off voiceover and it still does
this.  Is this something anyone else has experienced.  I really don't want
to have to take my new toy back to the store.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
> Holly
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Re: Reading messages in threads

[Ray Foret Jr]

Frankly, having read the below, it seems to me that option+command+w to close 
all windows followed by command+1 is faster.  Why do in six steps what can just 
as well be acomplished in only two?  
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!

E-Mail:
rforetjr at comcast dot net
Skype Name:
barefootedray

On Sep 12, 2010, at 11:04 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Kawal, Linda, Et Al,

When reading emails in the threaded view:

If a thread has 8 messages and you've read 3 of them and you do not wish to
read the remaining messages in the thread, instead of using Command+Option+W
(which will close all mail windows) followed by Command+1 (which will
restore the Mail Windows but place focus in the unified Inbox instead of an
individual email account Inbox, do the following:  

When you're ready to return to the email-account-specific Inbox, 

1.
Press Command+Option+W to close all Mail Windows.

2.
Press VO+M to activate the application's Menu Bar.

3.
Tap the letter W in order to jump to the Window Item.

4.
Either tap the Enter key or the Down-Arrow key to open The Window Item Menu.

5.
Tap the Letter M to jump to the Message Viewer Item.

6.
Finally, tap the Enter key to activate this item.  This will display the
Account-specific Inbox (from which you left), once again.  

I hope this helps and remember to make a joyful noise.

Mark
PS
I wish you all well as it may be quite sometime before I am able to post to
this very excellent list, again.  


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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Adams
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading messages in threads

Kawal,

Thanks for the information.  Command 1 works great to bring back the Mail
window if totally closed by accident.

I need to explain my first question a little more.  If a thread has 8
messages, I've read 3 and don't need to read he rest, instead of pressing
command W 5 more times, can I clear out the remaining messages and return to
the message window?  When I pressed Command option W it closed everything
which is what I wanted to avoid.  Pressing command 1 takes me back to the
inbox instead of the Macvisionaries mailbox where I had been reading
threads.

Thanks,
Linda

On Sep 11, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Hi Linda.
> 
> If you don't want to read anymore messages in thread, press command option
W together.  This closes all mail windows.
> 
> The next question you asked is if the windows are closed what to do.
Press Command 1 to open the mail window.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 11 Sep 2010, at 20:22, Linda Adams wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've recently switched to reading messages from this list in the thread
format and am liking the way it works.  I have 2 questions.  If there are
messages left on a thread and I don't need/want to read the remaining
messages, is there a quicker way to stop reading the thread or do I have to
press command W until they are all closed?  
>> 
>> Also, I think  I remember my next question being posted but don't
remember the answer.  I've accidentally closed the main window so the
message table no longer is shown.  I know I can close Mail and open it back
up again again but wondered if there is another way to bring back the
message table.
>> 
>> Thanks much,
>> Linda
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Re: Unintentional Aliases and getting rid of them

[Michael Busboom]

Thank you, Colin, for responding.

Actually, I have inadvertently hit this command more than once.

Thanks again,

Mike

On 11,Sep,2010, at 7:30 PM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Michael!
> The command to make aliases is [ command+l ] I do not know why you would be 
> using that command unless you think it does something else!
> Or you are hitting it by mistake!
> Why you can not delete them I do not know, I thought you just sat on it and 
> pressed delete!
> hth Colin
> Skype focus_66
> On 11 Sep 2010, at 18:07, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Sometimes, apparently only when I am in Finder, I'm accidentally entering a 
>> keyboard combination that is generating Aliases to other things in my Finder 
>> Window.
>> 
>> So here are my questions:
>> 
>> 1.  What keyboard combination creates Aliases and does this keyboard 
>> combination create them, even if one isn't in Finder?
>> 
>> 2.  Why can't I seem to delete them?  
>> 
>> I may be creating Aliases from outside Finder; I just don't really know for 
>> sure.
>> 
>> Thanks for the enlightenment!
>> 
>> Mike
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Re: Unintentional Aliases and getting rid of them

[Michael Busboom]

Thank you very much for your response.  I had just been hitting the Del, not 
Cmd-Del.  Now, all I need to do is figure out how to intentionally create an 
Alias.  I believe that although I have never used them, aliases could be quite 
powerful and improve office productivity.

Again, thank you!

Mike


On 12,Sep,2010, at 12:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Yeah you should just be able to hit cmd del and put them int he trash. I 
> still accidently creat those blasted shortcuts and don't realise it. lol! 
> oops.
> On Sep 11, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Colin M wrote:
> 
>> Hi Michael!
>> The command to make aliases is [ command+l ] I do not know why you would be 
>> using that command unless you think it does something else!
>> Or you are hitting it by mistake!
>> Why you can not delete them I do not know, I thought you just sat on it and 
>> pressed delete!
>> hth Colin
>> Skype focus_66
>> On 11 Sep 2010, at 18:07, Michael Busboom wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> Sometimes, apparently only when I am in Finder, I'm accidentally entering a 
>>> keyboard combination that is generating Aliases to other things in my 
>>> Finder Window.
>>> 
>>> So here are my questions:
>>> 
>>> 1.  What keyboard combination creates Aliases and does this keyboard 
>>> combination create them, even if one isn't in Finder?
>>> 
>>> 2.  Why can't I seem to delete them?  
>>> 
>>> I may be creating Aliases from outside Finder; I just don't really know for 
>>> sure.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the enlightenment!
>>> 
>>> Mike
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portrait lock

[Paul Erkens]

Hi list,

How do you lock the iphone in portrait display mode, so that it does not 
landscape on you all the time if you move the phone? It is in the iphone 
manual, but I believe I need to do something different with voice over 
active, as the instruction found there gets me no where.
An ideas how to lock in portrait? 


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Re: portrait lock

[Carolyn]

Hi Paul:
If you look back to the weekend's traffic and take a minute to sort threads, 
this was just explained on Saturday:
Double tap the home button, then do a 3 finger swipe right and the phone will 
say "portrait lock" or something like that.  Proceed acordingly.

Carolyn
On Sep 13, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi list,
> 
> How do you lock the iphone in portrait display mode, so that it does not 
> landscape on you all the time if you move the phone? It is in the iphone 
> manual, but I believe I need to do something different with voice over 
> active, as the instruction found there gets me no where.
> An ideas how to lock in portrait? 
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RE: portrait lock

[Robert Hooper]

If you have IOS 4 or later installed, then the portrait lock is found in the Ap 
switcher. When double-tapping the home button, the Ap switcher is activated. 
Although VoiceOver gives no initial clue of this, it is a multi-page screen. 
When you first land in the Ap switcher, you are on page 2 of this screen. 
Performing a three-finger swipe to the right will move you to page one, where, 
as mentioned, there is a button entitled "lock orientation changes". After 
activating this button with a double or split-tap, pressing home will exit the 
Ap switcher. In the status bar to the left of the clock, you will find an 
additional status item when your orientation is locked. Repeat these steps to 
unlock orientation and the status message will vanish from the top of the 
iPhone.
Cheers,
Robert Hooper

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On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: portrait lock

Hi Paul:
If you look back to the weekend's traffic and take a minute to sort threads, 
this was just explained on Saturday:
Double tap the home button, then do a 3 finger swipe right and the phone will 
say "portrait lock" or something like that.  Proceed acordingly.

Carolyn
On Sep 13, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi list,
> 
> How do you lock the iphone in portrait display mode, so that it does not 
> landscape on you all the time if you move the phone? It is in the iphone 
> manual, but I believe I need to do something different with voice over 
> active, as the instruction found there gets me no where.
> An ideas how to lock in portrait? 
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Re: IOS 4.1, blutooth keyboard and the iPod Touch as a notetaker for school?

[Justin Thornton]

hi
is there actually a word processor yet or something better than notes that lets 
you edit on the phone
and veiw documents
that would be a great note taker
On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Thank you for posting this question. I was wondering the same thing. But I 
> never thought it was possible. As my BrailleNote is slowly dying, I may need 
> to use the Iphone as an option for work. I didn't realize you could E-mail 
> notes from your Iphone. THat is pretty cool. I will have to try this one day. 
> I was just thinking about how neat it would be to pair the Iphone with a 
> BLuetooth keyboard and Braille display. Now that would be amazing. I love 
> watching how this new technology is going to develop and open so many new 
> doors that were previously closed to us.
> Have a great evening.
> 
> Musically,
> Allison
> 
> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
> 
> 
> On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
> 
>> The title of the notes show up in the subject line, but the rest of the 
>> notes are in the body of the message.  For example, if you add a new note 
>> and you put the word "schedule" in the top of the document, that will be in 
>> the subject line.  Whatever you put below the word "schedule" will be in the 
>> body of the message.  You can paste that into TextEdit and save it.
>> 
>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> You can email notes to yourself but I believe they will show up all in the 
>>> subject line or something. that part still confuses me.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>> 
 Good morning folks:
 
 The subject line pretty much says it all, except for one thing.  Suppose I 
 use this as a notetaker, can I transfer the notes to my Macbook and open 
 them in Text Edit or Pages?  Is this done through iTunes?  I don't suppose 
 you can E-mail them as attachments from the iPod Touch, or maybe you can?  
 Thoughts and comments appreciated.  This set up would most definitely be 
 much lighter than even my 13 inch MBP.  :)
 
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Re: portrait lock

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Robert Hoper,

Wow this works. Thanks a lot. Never would have guessed to find portrait lock 
in the app switcher. I don't understand this switcher yet because I'm still 
reading and familiarizing myself with my new iphone, but the lock does work.

Best,
Paul.
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From: "Robert Hooper" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: portrait lock


If you have IOS 4 or later installed, then the portrait lock is found in the 
Ap switcher. When double-tapping the home button, the Ap switcher is 
activated. Although VoiceOver gives no initial clue of this, it is a 
multi-page screen. When you first land in the Ap switcher, you are on page 2 
of this screen. Performing a three-finger swipe to the right will move you 
to page one, where, as mentioned, there is a button entitled "lock 
orientation changes". After activating this button with a double or 
split-tap, pressing home will exit the Ap switcher. In the status bar to the 
left of the clock, you will find an additional status item when your 
orientation is locked. Repeat these steps to unlock orientation and the 
status message will vanish from the top of the iPhone.

Cheers,
Robert Hooper

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn

Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: portrait lock

Hi Paul:
If you look back to the weekend's traffic and take a minute to sort threads, 
this was just explained on Saturday:
Double tap the home button, then do a 3 finger swipe right and the phone 
will say "portrait lock" or something like that.  Proceed acordingly.


Carolyn
On Sep 13, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:


Hi list,

How do you lock the iphone in portrait display mode, so that it does not 
landscape on you all the time if you move the phone? It is in the iphone 
manual, but I believe I need to do something different with voice over 
active, as the instruction found there gets me no where.

An ideas how to lock in portrait?
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trackpad gesture that mutes speech in voiceover

[Mary Otten]

Yesterday, while using my magic trackpad, I did something that muted voiceover. 
I was trying to do the rotor gesture. My trackpad has been acting weirdly 
lately anyway; I thought the batteries might need changing, but the Mac says 
the level is 87%, so that must not be it. Anyway, once I did whatever it was to 
accidentally mute speech, I was lucky enough to have sighted help, who could go 
and find the mute speech toggle in the voice over commands menu. I looked 
through the gestures and commands in track pad commander but no luck there. 
What was the gesture to mute speech so I can perhaps do it again to undo the 
mistake in future and not have to resort to sighted help? Thanks.

Mary
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Re: trackpad gesture that mutes speech in voiceover

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Mary Otten,

I found the solution to voice over suddenly muting because of an 
unintentional trackpad guesture, on vision australia. If you google them, 
they have a lot of short tutorial podcasts in mp3 with many more tips you 
might want to know about.

Paul.
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To: 
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 5:54 PM
Subject: trackpad gesture that mutes speech in voiceover


Yesterday, while using my magic trackpad, I did something that muted 
voiceover. I was trying to do the rotor gesture. My trackpad has been acting 
weirdly lately anyway; I thought the batteries might need changing, but the 
Mac says the level is 87%, so that must not be it. Anyway, once I did 
whatever it was to accidentally mute speech, I was lucky enough to have 
sighted help, who could go and find the mute speech toggle in the voice over 
commands menu. I looked through the gestures and commands in track pad 
commander but no luck there. What was the gesture to mute speech so I can 
perhaps do it again to undo the mistake in future and not have to resort to 
sighted help? Thanks.


Mary
Mary Otten
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Re: trackpad gesture that mutes speech in voiceover

[Scott Howell]

Mary, a three finger triple tap will mute/unmute speech.
On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

> Yesterday, while using my magic trackpad, I did something that muted 
> voiceover. I was trying to do the rotor gesture. My trackpad has been acting 
> weirdly lately anyway; I thought the batteries might need changing, but the 
> Mac says the level is 87%, so that must not be it. Anyway, once I did 
> whatever it was to accidentally mute speech, I was lucky enough to have 
> sighted help, who could go and find the mute speech toggle in the voice over 
> commands menu. I looked through the gestures and commands in track pad 
> commander but no luck there. What was the gesture to mute speech so I can 
> perhaps do it again to undo the mistake in future and not have to resort to 
> sighted help? Thanks.
> 
> Mary
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: trackpad gesture that mutes speech in voiceover

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings,

In appendix a you'll find the track pad commander keys including double tap 
with three fingers to toggle the muting of speech.  Of course how do you look 
this up while its in that state?

HTH.
Geoff
 

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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:54 AM
  Subject: trackpad gesture that mutes speech in voiceover


  Yesterday, while using my magic trackpad, I did something that muted 
voiceover. I was trying to do the rotor gesture. My trackpad has been acting 
weirdly lately anyway; I thought the batteries might need changing, but the Mac 
says the level is 87%, so that must not be it. Anyway, once I did whatever it 
was to accidentally mute speech, I was lucky enough to have sighted help, who 
could go and find the mute speech toggle in the voice over commands menu. I 
looked through the gestures and commands in track pad commander but no luck 
there. What was the gesture to mute speech so I can perhaps do it again to undo 
the mistake in future and not have to resort to sighted help? Thanks.

  Mary
  Mary Otten
  motte...@gmail.com


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Re: trackpad gesture that mutes speech in voiceover

[Carolyn]

Hi Mary:
Been here done this and just the other day, too.  If you do a tripple finger 
double-tap, it will mute speech.  Toggle it back on the same way.
That one's burned in my memory by force of accident and recovery
Take care

Carolyn
On Sep 13, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

> Yesterday, while using my magic trackpad, I did something that muted 
> voiceover. I was trying to do the rotor gesture. My trackpad has been acting 
> weirdly lately anyway; I thought the batteries might need changing, but the 
> Mac says the level is 87%, so that must not be it. Anyway, once I did 
> whatever it was to accidentally mute speech, I was lucky enough to have 
> sighted help, who could go and find the mute speech toggle in the voice over 
> commands menu. I looked through the gestures and commands in track pad 
> commander but no luck there. What was the gesture to mute speech so I can 
> perhaps do it again to undo the mistake in future and not have to resort to 
> sighted help? Thanks.
> 
> Mary
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Getting mp3 audio book on to iPhone as an audio book!

[Esther]

Hi Raul, Aedan, Steve, and Others,

To answer Aedan's question about how to have your iPhone remember  
position in a playlist of mulitple part mp3 audiobooks without first  
joining them, in iTunes you can create a "smart playlist" with the  
shortcut "Control+Option+N" under Windows or "Command+Option+N" on a  
Mac.  A smart playlist is a playlist created using rules, instead of  
by directly selecting entries. In the case of Aedon's example of 150  
mp3 book files, the rules could be:

1, "Album" "is" 
2. "Plays" "is" 0

To create the smart playlist under iTunes, he'd use the shortcut to  
open a smart playlist dialog window, create the two rules, then exit  
the window and either type in a name for his smart playlist or accept  
the default.
1. Control+Option+N (Windows) or Command+Option+N (Mac) to create a  
new smart playlist
2. Navigate to the "Rules Section" of the smart playlist dialog window  
(on a Mac: VO+Right Arrow and Interact)
2. Change the first pop up button from "Artist" to "Album" (on a Mac:  
VO-Space, then press "a l" or use the up arrow key to move to the new  
selection; follow whatever method your screen reader has for dealing  
with combo boxes)
3. Navigate (e.g., VO+Right Arrow on a Mac) to the next pop up button  
(which can be left as "contains" or changed to "is" for a direct match)
4. Navigate (e.g., VO+Right Arrow) to the text box and type in the  
name of the Album.
5. Navigate (e.g., VO+Right Arrow) to the end of the first rule, and  
press the button (e.g., VO+Space) to "Add" a new rule. (There should  
be three buttons at the end of a rule "Remove", "Add", and "Group".)
6. Navigate (e.g., VO+Right Arrow) to the pop up button for the start  
of the second rule, and change it to "Plays" (e.g., VO+Space, press  
"p" then arrow down)
7. At this point the rest of the rule is filled out to read "is" "0",  
and we're done.  I would simply press "Return" at this point to commit  
changes (or "Escape" if I wanted to cancel).  However, you can  
navigate through the rest of the dialog window to read the options,  
and the press the "OK" or "Cancel" button at the end.  (Mac users,  
stop interacting with the rules section to read on).

8. Type in a name for the smart playlist or accept the default.

The rest of the smart playlist dialog box contains check box options  
for limiting the length of the playlist by size, time, number of  
items, and pop up buttons for specifying your preferences for how to  
match the limits (e.g. favor genres, most played tracks, recently  
added material, etc.)  The key item for our purposes is that "Live  
Updating" is checked by default, and this mean that iTunes or your  
iPhone will know when a track has been played, and automatically  
remove it from your smart playlist.


So this solution has two parts:
1.  The individual mp3 files were moved to the "Books" section of your  
library, and made bookmarkable. (You previously selected these tracks,  
used Control+I (on a PC) or Command+I (on a Mac), navigated to the  
"Options" tab and
a. Changed the pop up button for "Media Kind" from "Music" to  
"Audiobook" (which moves entries from "Music" to "Book")
b. Checked the box for "Remember Playback Position" (which lets you  
bookmark your tracks)
c. Checked the box for "Skip when Shuffling" (which keeps book tracks  
from being included if you "shuffle play" your music tracks)
2. The smart playlist keeps a list of your audiobook tracks, but the  
last unread track is always at the start of the playlist. As soon as a  
track is finished, its playcount is updated to "1" and the live  
updating feature rolls it off your smart playlist.  The track remains  
on your device, but if you're playing the audiobook from the smart  
playlist, you won't see it.


If you previously created a regular playlist for this audiobook, your  
first rule could be: "Playlist" "is" playlist>.  In iTunes the context menu for each track lets your reset  
the playcount to 0.  So if you want to listen to a multi-track  
audiobook again, you could simply reset the playcount of these tracks,  
and your smart playlist is instantly reusable.  Note that if you have  
your iPhone set to sync your smart playlist that the tracks you have  
listened to may actually be removed from your device the next time you  
sync your iPhone to iTunes -- since they no longer meet the criteria  
for inclusion in the smart playlist. So unless the tracks were  
included in some other list (e.g. you checked that all audiobooks in  
your library should be on your iPhone), you may not find them again.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Sep 13, 2010, at 02:53, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hi, I believe that the Bookmark app will handle audio books so that  
your
position is remembered. Ester on list here posted a very nicely  
written

how-to on this app. I don't have it myself, but it seems to be well
recommended.

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RE: portrait lock

[Robert Hooper]

Yes, I likewise thought that the Ap switcher was a random place in which to 
place the option for locking the iPhone in portrait. Also on that first page 
are iPod controls (previous, play, and next). Strange... I would expect to find 
that in settings, but there you go. Glad to help:)
Robert Hooper
Robert Hooper

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Paul Erkens
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: portrait lock

Hi Robert Hoper,

Wow this works. Thanks a lot. Never would have guessed to find portrait lock 
in the app switcher. I don't understand this switcher yet because I'm still 
reading and familiarizing myself with my new iphone, but the lock does work.
Best,
Paul.
- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Hooper" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: portrait lock


If you have IOS 4 or later installed, then the portrait lock is found in the 
Ap switcher. When double-tapping the home button, the Ap switcher is 
activated. Although VoiceOver gives no initial clue of this, it is a 
multi-page screen. When you first land in the Ap switcher, you are on page 2 
of this screen. Performing a three-finger swipe to the right will move you 
to page one, where, as mentioned, there is a button entitled "lock 
orientation changes". After activating this button with a double or 
split-tap, pressing home will exit the Ap switcher. In the status bar to the 
left of the clock, you will find an additional status item when your 
orientation is locked. Repeat these steps to unlock orientation and the 
status message will vanish from the top of the iPhone.
Cheers,
Robert Hooper

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: portrait lock

Hi Paul:
If you look back to the weekend's traffic and take a minute to sort threads, 
this was just explained on Saturday:
Double tap the home button, then do a 3 finger swipe right and the phone 
will say "portrait lock" or something like that.  Proceed acordingly.

Carolyn
On Sep 13, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> How do you lock the iphone in portrait display mode, so that it does not 
> landscape on you all the time if you move the phone? It is in the iphone 
> manual, but I believe I need to do something different with voice over 
> active, as the instruction found there gets me no where.
> An ideas how to lock in portrait?
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Entering text with VoiceOver on an iPad

[mani]

Hello there:
How do you enter text using Voiceover? For example in the address bar
in Safari? Or any text field in a form? I know the keyboard appears in
the bottom but when I type the letters, I don't see the letters
transferring to the text field.

I am getting frustrated trying to figure this out.
Thanks,
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Re: Entering text with VoiceOver on an iPad

[Colin M]

Hi Mani!
I do not have an I pad!
But have you tried interacting with the text field first, then try typing!
Hope that works, if i'm wrong a I pad user will probably set you right!
:-]
Colin
On 13 Sep 2010, at 17:51, mani wrote:

> Hello there:
> How do you enter text using Voiceover? For example in the address bar
> in Safari? Or any text field in a form? I know the keyboard appears in
> the bottom but when I type the letters, I don't see the letters
> transferring to the text field.
> 
> I am getting frustrated trying to figure this out.
> Thanks,
> mani
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Re: Entering text with VoiceOver on an iPad

[Charlie Doremus]

Mani,

If you have vision you know that the address bar is at the top of your iPad 
screen. If you want to enter text there tap the text box, you see the cursor 
(blinking blue line) and the keyboard will pop up at the bottom as you 
described. Hope I have not added to your frustration. 

Aloha, 

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> Hi Mani!
> I do not have an I pad!
> But have you tried interacting with the text field first, then try typing!
> Hope that works, if i'm wrong a I pad user will probably set you right!
> :-]
> Colin
> On 13 Sep 2010, at 17:51, mani wrote:
> 
>> Hello there:
>> How do you enter text using Voiceover? For example in the address bar
>> in Safari? Or any text field in a form? I know the keyboard appears in
>> the bottom but when I type the letters, I don't see the letters
>> transferring to the text field.
>> 
>> I am getting frustrated trying to figure this out.
>> Thanks,
>> mani
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are there British US or Ostrailan male voices on ipods models/iphone with voiceover yet?

[Daniel McGee]

hello everyone, my Name is Daniel and I decided to join this list again after a 
while because before I was getting too many emails but now I'm back! But as my 
subject line says I was wondering for though's who use an ipod touch ipad or 
whatever apple product that has voiceover on it. Do you know if you have any 
male voices yet in it instead of the female voices that come with it. I ask 
this because a while ago I sent an email to apple accessabilty and got a 
responce saying that theywould forward it on the right people but haven't heard 
of anything since. The reason I want this because as well as being blind I have 
a hearing impairment too and have been since birth I wear hearing aids. I just 
can't understand the female voices with the products. So for thoughs who read 
this I would really be greatful if you could email ap...@accessibility.com and 
if your not hearing in pared I would still really be greatful if you could take 
the time for the bennifit of hearing in pared people plus being blind to   
explain this sort of situation to them. I have sent them another email this 
morning UK time but as of yet I have had no news. Its one of the things that's 
stopping me getting another ipod touch and giving it another try! Honestly I 
find it so fustrating. 
Well I hope to hear from you all soon. 
Many Thanks and hope your all having a plesent day weather its morning, 
afternoon or evening!
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Re: Entering text with VoiceOver on an iPad

[mani]

Charlie,
I have very limited vision.  I do see the address bar and tap it (VO
confirms it is the address bar). I can't see the cursor or the blue
line.  Is there a specific gesture for the keys on the keyboard in
order to get the characters to the text field?
Can you please tell me the exact sequence of steps?  And this is for
any text field.
Thanks,
mani

On Sep 13, 1:22 pm, Charlie Doremus  wrote:
> Mani,
>
> If you have vision you know that the address bar is at the top of your iPad 
> screen. If you want to enter text there tap the text box, you see the cursor 
> (blinking blue line) and the keyboard will pop up at the bottom as you 
> described. Hope I have not added to your frustration.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Charlie
>
> Check out our websitewww.giantdolphin.com
>
> On Sep 13, 2010, at 7:04 AM, Colin M  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Mani!
> > I do not have an I pad!
> > But have you tried interacting with the text field first, then try typing!
> > Hope that works, if i'm wrong a I pad user will probably set you right!
> > :-]
> > Colin
> > On 13 Sep 2010, at 17:51, mani wrote:
>
> >> Hello there:
> >> How do you enter text using Voiceover? For example in the address bar
> >> in Safari? Or any text field in a form? I know the keyboard appears in
> >> the bottom but when I type the letters, I don't see the letters
> >> transferring to the text field.
>
> >> I am getting frustrated trying to figure this out.
> >> Thanks,
> >> mani
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Re: trackpad gesture that mutes speech in voiceover

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

All of the standard gestures for VoiceOver are included in the VoiceOver help 
which you can recall by hitting VO-question mark ? including the one you want 
to use. You can do it by using a three-finger double tap, though.

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On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Mary Otten,
> 
> I found the solution to voice over suddenly muting because of an 
> unintentional trackpad guesture, on vision australia. If you google them, 
> they have a lot of short tutorial podcasts in mp3 with many more tips you 
> might want to know about.
> Paul.
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 5:54 PM
> Subject: trackpad gesture that mutes speech in voiceover
> 
> 
> Yesterday, while using my magic trackpad, I did something that muted 
> voiceover. I was trying to do the rotor gesture. My trackpad has been acting 
> weirdly lately anyway; I thought the batteries might need changing, but the 
> Mac says the level is 87%, so that must not be it. Anyway, once I did 
> whatever it was to accidentally mute speech, I was lucky enough to have 
> sighted help, who could go and find the mute speech toggle in the voice over 
> commands menu. I looked through the gestures and commands in track pad 
> commander but no luck there. What was the gesture to mute speech so I can 
> perhaps do it again to undo the mistake in future and not have to resort to 
> sighted help? Thanks.
> 
> Mary
> Mary Otten
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Re: Entering text with VoiceOver on an iPad

[Holly Anderson]

Hi.  You probably have typing set to standard typing, so you will have to 
double tap a letter to get it in the text field.  There is a roter setting that 
changes this, select typing from the roter and select touch typing. This will 
make it so that when you find the key you want just lift your finger and it 
gets entered.

hth
Holly
On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:51 AM, mani wrote:

> Hello there:
> How do you enter text using Voiceover? For example in the address bar
> in Safari? Or any text field in a form? I know the keyboard appears in
> the bottom but when I type the letters, I don't see the letters
> transferring to the text field.
> 
> I am getting frustrated trying to figure this out.
> Thanks,
> mani
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Re: IOS 4.1, blutooth keyboard and the iPod Touch as a notetaker for school?

[Sarah Alawami]

Oops? my bad. Sorry it was my tired mind that was speaking when I replied. lol!

Take care.

S
On Sep 13, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> I believe he was saying you can copy the text from the note in Mail and paste 
> it in to Text edit on the Mac.
> 
> hth
> On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> There is no text edit in ios4 but yes you can do that from the apple mail 
>> program. I did not know you an hit enter in a note.
>> 
>> Thanks for that.On Sep 12, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
>> 
>>> The title of the notes show up in the subject line, but the rest of the 
>>> notes are in the body of the message.  For example, if you add a new note 
>>> and you put the word "schedule" in the top of the document, that will be in 
>>> the subject line.  Whatever you put below the word "schedule" will be in 
>>> the body of the message.  You can paste that into TextEdit and save it.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 You can email notes to yourself but I believe they will show up all in the 
 subject line or something. that part still confuses me.
 
 Take care.
 On Sep 12, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
 
> Good morning folks:
> 
> The subject line pretty much says it all, except for one thing.  Suppose 
> I use this as a notetaker, can I transfer the notes to my Macbook and 
> open them in Text Edit or Pages?  Is this done through iTunes?  I don't 
> suppose you can E-mail them as attachments from the iPod Touch, or maybe 
> you can?  Thoughts and comments appreciated.  This set up would most 
> definitely be much lighter than even my 13 inch MBP.  :)
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Re: IOS 4.1, blutooth keyboard and the iPod Touch as a notetaker for school?

[Sarah Alawami]

I believe there is and there was discussion about it on th e viphone list but I 
can't remember what it was called and I'm nt on that list anymore to ask.

take care.

S
On Sep 13, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Justin Thornton wrote:

> hi
> is there actually a word processor yet or something better than notes that 
> lets you edit on the phone
> and veiw documents
> that would be a great note taker
> On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Thank you for posting this question. I was wondering the same thing. But I 
>> never thought it was possible. As my BrailleNote is slowly dying, I may need 
>> to use the Iphone as an option for work. I didn't realize you could E-mail 
>> notes from your Iphone. THat is pretty cool. I will have to try this one 
>> day. I was just thinking about how neat it would be to pair the Iphone with 
>> a BLuetooth keyboard and Braille display. Now that would be amazing. I love 
>> watching how this new technology is going to develop and open so many new 
>> doors that were previously closed to us.
>> Have a great evening.
>> 
>> Musically,
>> Allison
>> 
>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
>> 
>>> The title of the notes show up in the subject line, but the rest of the 
>>> notes are in the body of the message.  For example, if you add a new note 
>>> and you put the word "schedule" in the top of the document, that will be in 
>>> the subject line.  Whatever you put below the word "schedule" will be in 
>>> the body of the message.  You can paste that into TextEdit and save it.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 You can email notes to yourself but I believe they will show up all in the 
 subject line or something. that part still confuses me.
 
 Take care.
 On Sep 12, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
 
> Good morning folks:
> 
> The subject line pretty much says it all, except for one thing.  Suppose 
> I use this as a notetaker, can I transfer the notes to my Macbook and 
> open them in Text Edit or Pages?  Is this done through iTunes?  I don't 
> suppose you can E-mail them as attachments from the iPod Touch, or maybe 
> you can?  Thoughts and comments appreciated.  This set up would most 
> definitely be much lighter than even my 13 inch MBP.  :)
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Re: Entering text with VoiceOver on an iPad

[mani]

Hello Holly:
On the address bar, how do I clear the existing text?  I managed to
turn on touch typing using the rotor and start typing but it seems to
append to the end or prepend to the beginning, which gives me a wrong
URL in either case.

I have a strange feeling, I am doing something grossly wrong. :)
Thanks,
mani


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> Hi.  You probably have typing set to standard typing, so you will have to 
> double tap a letter to get it in the text field.  There is a roter setting 
> that changes this, select typing from the roter and select touch typing. This 
> will make it so that when you find the key you want just lift your finger and 
> it gets entered.
>
> hth
> Holly
> On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:51 AM, mani wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hello there:
> > How do you enter text using Voiceover? For example in the address bar
> > in Safari? Or any text field in a form? I know the keyboard appears in
> > the bottom but when I type the letters, I don't see the letters
> > transferring to the text field.
>
> > I am getting frustrated trying to figure this out.
> > Thanks,
> > mani
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Re: Entering text with VoiceOver on an iPad

[Charlie Doremus]

Mani,
Allow me some time to see if I can work this out and get back to you. My 
partner uses vo more then I and therefore might have the correct answer to your 
question. Hang in there 

Aloha, 

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On Sep 13, 2010, at 7:30 AM, mani  wrote:

> Charlie,
> I have very limited vision.  I do see the address bar and tap it (VO
> confirms it is the address bar). I can't see the cursor or the blue
> line.  Is there a specific gesture for the keys on the keyboard in
> order to get the characters to the text field?
> Can you please tell me the exact sequence of steps?  And this is for
> any text field.
> Thanks,
> mani
> 
> On Sep 13, 1:22 pm, Charlie Doremus  wrote:
>> Mani,
>> 
>> If you have vision you know that the address bar is at the top of your iPad 
>> screen. If you want to enter text there tap the text box, you see the cursor 
>> (blinking blue line) and the keyboard will pop up at the bottom as you 
>> described. Hope I have not added to your frustration.
>> 
>> Aloha,
>> 
>> Charlie
>> 
>> Check out our websitewww.giantdolphin.com
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2010, at 7:04 AM, Colin M  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Mani!
>>> I do not have an I pad!
>>> But have you tried interacting with the text field first, then try typing!
>>> Hope that works, if i'm wrong a I pad user will probably set you right!
>>> :-]
>>> Colin
>>> On 13 Sep 2010, at 17:51, mani wrote:
>> 
 Hello there:
 How do you enter text using Voiceover? For example in the address bar
 in Safari? Or any text field in a form? I know the keyboard appears in
 the bottom but when I type the letters, I don't see the letters
 transferring to the text field.
>> 
 I am getting frustrated trying to figure this out.
 Thanks,
 mani
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Re: Entering text with VoiceOver on an iPad

[Charlie Doremus]

Mani
With vo turned on tap the address text field, you should hear the address 
spoken (google.com for example).double tap a slide your finger a bit to the 
right and you should find the "clear text button". 
Give that a try. 

Aloha, 

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On Sep 13, 2010, at 8:27 AM, mani  wrote:

> Hello Holly:
> On the address bar, how do I clear the existing text?  I managed to
> turn on touch typing using the rotor and start typing but it seems to
> append to the end or prepend to the beginning, which gives me a wrong
> URL in either case.
> 
> I have a strange feeling, I am doing something grossly wrong. :)
> Thanks,
> mani
> 
> 
> On Sep 13, 1:52 pm, Holly Anderson  wrote:
>> Hi.  You probably have typing set to standard typing, so you will have to 
>> double tap a letter to get it in the text field.  There is a roter setting 
>> that changes this, select typing from the roter and select touch typing. 
>> This will make it so that when you find the key you want just lift your 
>> finger and it gets entered.
>> 
>> hth
>> Holly
>> On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:51 AM, mani wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello there:
>>> How do you enter text using Voiceover? For example in the address bar
>>> in Safari? Or any text field in a form? I know the keyboard appears in
>>> the bottom but when I type the letters, I don't see the letters
>>> transferring to the text field.
>> 
>>> I am getting frustrated trying to figure this out.
>>> Thanks,
>>> mani
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Re: Reading messages in threads

[Linda Adams]

Mark,

Thanks, but like Ray pointed out, it seems just as quick to get from the Inbox 
back to my Macvisionaries mailbox in the the sidebar.  I do appreciate your 
help and it's always nice to have an alternate route.
Linda

On Sep 13, 2010, at 12:04 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello Kawal, Linda, Et Al,
> 
> When reading emails in the threaded view:
> 
> If a thread has 8 messages and you've read 3 of them and you do not wish to
> read the remaining messages in the thread, instead of using Command+Option+W
> (which will close all mail windows) followed by Command+1 (which will
> restore the Mail Windows but place focus in the unified Inbox instead of an
> individual email account Inbox, do the following:  
> 
> When you're ready to return to the email-account-specific Inbox, 
> 
> 1.
> Press Command+Option+W to close all Mail Windows.
> 
> 2.
> Press VO+M to activate the application's Menu Bar.
> 
> 3.
> Tap the letter W in order to jump to the Window Item.
> 
> 4.
> Either tap the Enter key or the Down-Arrow key to open The Window Item Menu.
> 
> 5.
> Tap the Letter M to jump to the Message Viewer Item.
> 
> 6.
> Finally, tap the Enter key to activate this item.  This will display the
> Account-specific Inbox (from which you left), once again.  
> 
> I hope this helps and remember to make a joyful noise.
> 
> Mark
> PS
> I wish you all well as it may be quite sometime before I am able to post to
> this very excellent list, again.  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Adams
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Reading messages in threads
> 
> Kawal,
> 
> Thanks for the information.  Command 1 works great to bring back the Mail
> window if totally closed by accident.
> 
> I need to explain my first question a little more.  If a thread has 8
> messages, I've read 3 and don't need to read he rest, instead of pressing
> command W 5 more times, can I clear out the remaining messages and return to
> the message window?  When I pressed Command option W it closed everything
> which is what I wanted to avoid.  Pressing command 1 takes me back to the
> inbox instead of the Macvisionaries mailbox where I had been reading
> threads.
> 
> Thanks,
> Linda
> 
> On Sep 11, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Hi Linda.
>> 
>> If you don't want to read anymore messages in thread, press command option
> W together.  This closes all mail windows.
>> 
>> The next question you asked is if the windows are closed what to do.
> Press Command 1 to open the mail window.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> On 11 Sep 2010, at 20:22, Linda Adams wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I've recently switched to reading messages from this list in the thread
> format and am liking the way it works.  I have 2 questions.  If there are
> messages left on a thread and I don't need/want to read the remaining
> messages, is there a quicker way to stop reading the thread or do I have to
> press command W until they are all closed?  
>>> 
>>> Also, I think  I remember my next question being posted but don't
> remember the answer.  I've accidentally closed the main window so the
> message table no longer is shown.  I know I can close Mail and open it back
> up again again but wondered if there is another way to bring back the
> message table.
>>> 
>>> Thanks much,
>>> Linda
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Re: Entering text with VoiceOver on an iPad

[Esther]

Hi Mani,

You should probably review the basic information in the iPad manual,  
that can be found under the Bookmarks of Safari.  But let me first  
answer your question.  When you double tap in an edit field, such as  
on the address bar, VoiceOver will say either "insertion point at  
start" or "insertion point at end".  This controls where you make your  
changes.  You can move backwards or forwards by either words or  
characters, but this involves using the rotor gesture to move the  
rotor selection from "edit" to "typing mode" and then to "characters"  
or "words" and swiping up or down to move back and forth.


If you want to clear the existing text in edit mode, flick right to  
where you hear "Clear text" and double tap.


You might want to try flicking to the "Bookmarks" and start reading  
your iPad guide.  I'll describe this for portrait ode. You can either  
touch the top left corner of the screen, and then flick right   
("Back", "Forward", "Tabs", to "Bookmarks").  When you reach  
"Bookmarks" double tap.  A Bookmarks pop-up window will appear. Flick  
right till you hear "iPad User Guide" and double tap.  Run your finger  
down the left side of the screen to check the categories under the  
iPad User Guide.  You can also do a two finger flick down to start  
reading from the current focus, and stop the reading with a two-finger  
tap on the screen.  A two-finger tap will resume reading from that  
point.  You'll want to start reading the "Accessibility" section,  
which is about four entries from the bottom in portrait mode.  Double  
tap on this.


The right side of the screen will show the detailed information under  
the Accessibility category.  You can touch the heading for  
"Accessibility" and do a two finger flick down to get an overview of  
the guide.  Stop the reading at any time with a two finger double tap  
and flick left to go back, or right to go forward from that point.  I  
suggest that you specially read the section on VoiceOver gestures,  
then Rotor Control and Using VoiceOver.  The information you want  
about editing is in the "Entering and Editing Text" section.  This  
assumes that you have mastered the VoiceOver gestures and have  
practiced them in the "Practice Gestures" area of the Settings menu.


I'd also recommend that you take a look through the iPad tutorials at  
the Vision Australia web site:

http://www.visionaustralia.org/info.aspx?page=2303

HTH. Cheers,

Esther

P.S. Normally I would tell you to use the iPad in landscape mode.  The  
switch to portrait mode for these instructions is specifically to make  
it easier for you to access the "Accessibility" section of the iPad  
User Guide.


On Sep 13, 2010,  mani wrote:


Hello Holly:
On the address bar, how do I clear the existing text?  I managed to
turn on touch typing using the rotor and start typing but it seems to
append to the end or prepend to the beginning, which gives me a wrong
URL in either case.

I have a strange feeling, I am doing something grossly wrong. :)
Thanks,
mani


On Sep 13, 1:52 pm, Holly Anderson  wrote:
Hi.  You probably have typing set to standard typing, so you will  
have to double tap a letter to get it in the text field.  There is  
a roter setting that changes this, select typing from the roter and  
select touch typing. This will make it so that when you find the  
key you want just lift your finger and it gets entered.


hth
Holly
On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:51 AM, mani wrote:




Hello there:
How do you enter text using Voiceover? For example in the address  
bar
in Safari? Or any text field in a form? I know the keyboard  
appears in

the bottom but when I type the letters, I don't see the letters
transferring to the text field.



I am getting frustrated trying to figure this out.
Thanks,
mani



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Re: Entering text with VoiceOver on an iPad

[Esther]

Hi Mani,

On Sep 13, 2010, mani wrote:


On the address bar, how do I clear the existing text?


I should also have mentioned, that in addition to flicking right to  
the "Clear text" button and double-tapping, you can also "split tap"  
with the delete key -- touch one finger to the "delete" key and use  
another finger to tap on the screen.  If your insertion point was at  
the end of the string, you will simply backwards delete the letters  
you typed, starting from the end-most point.  To move the insertion  
point to the end, double tap in the edit field until you hear  
"insertion point at end", then use the delete key.


HTH.  Cheers,
Esther

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Re: Isuu.com articles Accessible?

[Chris Blouch]

 Is isuu.com the right URL? If so it appears to be a squatter page 
where somebody just has a bunch of ads and junk up there hoping to gain 
a few cents from folks stumbling upon their site.


CB

On 9/11/10 3:21 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Has anyone tried reading the articles presented on this website? I'm not sure if they're 
flash or not. I have a partially-sighted friend that says VO will read them, but whenever 
I go to one, I get "one error opening page" and no text resembling the body of 
an article. You can pick any publication and article; I tried five at random, so I'm 
pretty sure that'll work.

Thanks for any help,
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Re: IOS 4.1, blutooth keyboard and the iPod Touch as a notetaker for school?

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
Check out Documents2. Just search for that in the App Store. It's spelled D o c 
u m e n t s 2 (number 2 not word to.) It's similar or well, more accurately, 
like a mobile Office suite. It's neat. It can open and save in most popular 
word proccessing formats, sspreadsheet formats (like Excel) and presentations 
from Pages and MS PowerPoint (at least, Ithink I read the help files right.)
HTH,
Jeffrey
On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Justin Thornton wrote:

> hi
> is there actually a word processor yet or something better than notes that 
> lets you edit on the phone
> and veiw documents
> that would be a great note taker
> On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Thank you for posting this question. I was wondering the same thing. But I 
>> never thought it was possible. As my BrailleNote is slowly dying, I may need 
>> to use the Iphone as an option for work. I didn't realize you could E-mail 
>> notes from your Iphone. THat is pretty cool. I will have to try this one 
>> day. I was just thinking about how neat it would be to pair the Iphone with 
>> a BLuetooth keyboard and Braille display. Now that would be amazing. I love 
>> watching how this new technology is going to develop and open so many new 
>> doors that were previously closed to us.
>> Have a great evening.
>> 
>> Musically,
>> Allison
>> 
>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
>> 
>>> The title of the notes show up in the subject line, but the rest of the 
>>> notes are in the body of the message.  For example, if you add a new note 
>>> and you put the word "schedule" in the top of the document, that will be in 
>>> the subject line.  Whatever you put below the word "schedule" will be in 
>>> the body of the message.  You can paste that into TextEdit and save it.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 You can email notes to yourself but I believe they will show up all in the 
 subject line or something. that part still confuses me.
 
 Take care.
 On Sep 12, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
 
> Good morning folks:
> 
> The subject line pretty much says it all, except for one thing.  Suppose 
> I use this as a notetaker, can I transfer the notes to my Macbook and 
> open them in Text Edit or Pages?  Is this done through iTunes?  I don't 
> suppose you can E-mail them as attachments from the iPod Touch, or maybe 
> you can?  Thoughts and comments appreciated.  This set up would most 
> definitely be much lighter than even my 13 inch MBP.  :)
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Re: burning audio cd's

[Chris Blouch]

 Wouldn't the easiest way be to drop them into iTunes? The process of 
converting MP3 to uncomrpessed audio and burning it on the disk to 
conform to red book standards is not something native to most OSes. 
You're going to need a tool of some sort so why not the free one that 
you're probably already familiar with?


CB

On 9/10/10 4:50 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:

Greetings gentlebeings,
I want to burn an audio cd made up of some mp3's that I haven't put into 
iTunes. What would you recommend as the easiest way to do this?

Friendly,
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Re: are there British US or Ostrailan male voices on ipods models/iphone with voiceover yet?

[Carolyn]

Daniel:
Hi from one HI person to another

Apple has several male voices available on their macbooks with the latest 
Osx10.6.  If you can get someone with a Mac to help you sync your device with a 
Mac, you could get the male voice, Alex, who is pretty easy to understand.  
Otherwise, I believe some of the other voices on the iPhone/touch etc have male 
voices.  
Carolyn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel McGee 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:30 AM
  Subject: are there British US or Ostrailan male voices on ipods models/iphone 
with voiceover yet?


  hello everyone, my Name is Daniel and I decided to join this list again after 
a while because before I was getting too many emails but now I'm back! But as 
my subject line says I was wondering for though's who use an ipod touch ipad or 
whatever apple product that has voiceover on it. Do you know if you have any 
male voices yet in it instead of the female voices that come with it. I ask 
this because a while ago I sent an email to apple accessabilty and got a 
responce saying that theywould forward it on the right people but haven't heard 
of anything since. The reason I want this because as well as being blind I have 
a hearing impairment too and have been since birth I wear hearing aids. I just 
can't understand the female voices with the products. So for thoughs who read 
this I would really be greatful if you could email ap...@accessibility.com and 
if your not hearing in pared I would still really be greatful if you could take 
the time for the bennifit of hearing in pared people plus being blind to   
explain this sort of situation to them. I have sent them another email this 
morning UK time but as of yet I have had no news. Its one of the things that's 
stopping me getting another ipod touch and giving it another try! Honestly I 
find it so fustrating. 
  Well I hope to hear from you all soon. 
  Many Thanks and hope your all having a plesent day weather its morning, 
afternoon or evening!
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Re: Issuu.com articles Accessible?

[Teresa Cochran]

Sorry; had the wrong spelling.

http://issuu.com/

Thanks,
Teresa
On Sep 13, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Is isuu.com the right URL? If so it appears to be a squatter page where 
> somebody just has a bunch of ads and junk up there hoping to gain a few cents 
> from folks stumbling upon their site.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 9/11/10 3:21 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> Has anyone tried reading the articles presented on this website? I'm not 
>> sure if they're flash or not. I have a partially-sighted friend that says VO 
>> will read them, but whenever I go to one, I get "one error opening page" and 
>> no text resembling the body of an article. You can pick any publication and 
>> article; I tried five at random, so I'm pretty sure that'll work.
>> 
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Teresa
>> 
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Re: Issuu.com articles Accessible?

[Chris Blouch]

 I was able to navigate the main page fairly well but once I went into 
a particular magazine it was one giant Flash object and Adobe has not 
made Flash accessible on the Mac yet, and seems to be in no hurry to do so.


CB

On 9/13/10 4:12 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Sorry; had the wrong spelling.

http://issuu.com/

Thanks,
Teresa
On Sep 13, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:


Is isuu.com the right URL? If so it appears to be a squatter page where 
somebody just has a bunch of ads and junk up there hoping to gain a few cents 
from folks stumbling upon their site.

CB

On 9/11/10 3:21 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Has anyone tried reading the articles presented on this website? I'm not sure if they're 
flash or not. I have a partially-sighted friend that says VO will read them, but whenever 
I go to one, I get "one error opening page" and no text resembling the body of 
an article. You can pick any publication and article; I tried five at random, so I'm 
pretty sure that'll work.

Thanks for any help,
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Re: burning audio cd's

[Sarah Alawami]

If you burn an mp3 using itunes though and you choose audio will it convert to 
the appropiate format so it can be played in every cd player.
On Sep 13, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Wouldn't the easiest way be to drop them into iTunes? The process of 
> converting MP3 to uncomrpessed audio and burning it on the disk to conform to 
> red book standards is not something native to most OSes. You're going to need 
> a tool of some sort so why not the free one that you're probably already 
> familiar with?
> 
> CB
> 
> On 9/10/10 4:50 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:
>> Greetings gentlebeings,
>> I want to burn an audio cd made up of some mp3's that I haven't put into 
>> iTunes. What would you recommend as the easiest way to do this?
>> 
>> Friendly,
>> Chris
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Re: IOS 4.1, blutooth keyboard and the iPod Touch as a notetaker for school?

[Sarah Alawami]

I'll look for something n apple vis as well. maybe there's something there.

S
On Sep 13, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:

> Hi,
> Check out Documents2. Just search for that in the App Store. It's spelled D o 
> c u m e n t s 2 (number 2 not word to.) It's similar or well, more 
> accurately, like a mobile Office suite. It's neat. It can open and save in 
> most popular word proccessing formats, sspreadsheet formats (like Excel) and 
> presentations from Pages and MS PowerPoint (at least, Ithink I read the help 
> files right.)
> HTH,
> Jeffrey
> On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Justin Thornton wrote:
> 
>> hi
>> is there actually a word processor yet or something better than notes that 
>> lets you edit on the phone
>> and veiw documents
>> that would be a great note taker
>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for posting this question. I was wondering the same thing. But I 
>>> never thought it was possible. As my BrailleNote is slowly dying, I may 
>>> need to use the Iphone as an option for work. I didn't realize you could 
>>> E-mail notes from your Iphone. THat is pretty cool. I will have to try this 
>>> one day. I was just thinking about how neat it would be to pair the Iphone 
>>> with a BLuetooth keyboard and Braille display. Now that would be amazing. I 
>>> love watching how this new technology is going to develop and open so many 
>>> new doors that were previously closed to us.
>>> Have a great evening.
>>> 
>>> Musically,
>>> Allison
>>> 
>>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>> 
 The title of the notes show up in the subject line, but the rest of the 
 notes are in the body of the message.  For example, if you add a new note 
 and you put the word "schedule" in the top of the document, that will be 
 in the subject line.  Whatever you put below the word "schedule" will be 
 in the body of the message.  You can paste that into TextEdit and save it.
 
 On Sep 12, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> You can email notes to yourself but I believe they will show up all in 
> the subject line or something. that part still confuses me.
> 
> Take care.
> On Sep 12, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> Good morning folks:
>> 
>> The subject line pretty much says it all, except for one thing.  Suppose 
>> I use this as a notetaker, can I transfer the notes to my Macbook and 
>> open them in Text Edit or Pages?  Is this done through iTunes?  I don't 
>> suppose you can E-mail them as attachments from the iPod Touch, or maybe 
>> you can?  Thoughts and comments appreciated.  This set up would most 
>> definitely be much lighter than even my 13 inch MBP.  :)
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Re: are there British US or Ostrailan male voices on ipods models/iphone with voiceover yet?

[Daniel McGee]

Hi Carolyn, I actually don't own a Mac but sounds interesting though. But 
correct me if I'm wrong the  ipod models/iphone have male voices but they are 
in other languages like french spanish don't know what languages/names they are 
but basicly the male voices are in other languages not the english which are 
all female voices. Of course maybe that's changed now. I would be greatful if 
you or someone else could tell me if this is so. As for the other thing you was 
describing it sounds like the "spoken menus" that came out in the ipod 4th 
Genaration which basicly when you synk your ipod for the 1st time ipod nano 4th 
gen and above it creates audio files so that when you use it when you are using 
the click wheel you can hear the genarated voice clips depending on your voice 
that you have selected in the pc/mac to be spoken on your ipod. 
But thanks for your comments anyway.
Daniel   


From: Carolyn 
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: are there British US or Ostrailan male voices on ipods 
models/iphone with voiceover yet?


Daniel:
Hi from one HI person to another

Apple has several male voices available on their macbooks with the latest 
Osx10.6.  If you can get someone with a Mac to help you sync your device with a 
Mac, you could get the male voice, Alex, who is pretty easy to understand.  
Otherwise, I believe some of the other voices on the iPhone/touch etc have male 
voices.  
Carolyn
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  Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:30 AM
  Subject: are there British US or Ostrailan male voices on ipods models/iphone 
with voiceover yet?


  hello everyone, my Name is Daniel and I decided to join this list again after 
a while because before I was getting too many emails but now I'm back! But as 
my subject line says I was wondering for though's who use an ipod touch ipad or 
whatever apple product that has voiceover on it. Do you know if you have any 
male voices yet in it instead of the female voices that come with it. I ask 
this because a while ago I sent an email to apple accessabilty and got a 
responce saying that theywould forward it on the right people but haven't heard 
of anything since. The reason I want this because as well as being blind I have 
a hearing impairment too and have been since birth I wear hearing aids. I just 
can't understand the female voices with the products. So for thoughs who read 
this I would really be greatful if you could email ap...@accessibility.com and 
if your not hearing in pared I would still really be greatful if you could take 
the time for the bennifit of hearing in pared people plus being blind to   
explain this sort of situation to them. I have sent them another email this 
morning UK time but as of yet I have had no news. Its one of the things that's 
stopping me getting another ipod touch and giving it another try! Honestly I 
find it so fustrating. 
  Well I hope to hear from you all soon. 
  Many Thanks and hope your all having a plesent day weather its morning, 
afternoon or evening!
  Daniel  
  

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Re: Issuu.com articles Accessible?

[Teresa Cochran]

Thanks for giving that a spin, Chris.

They do have a mobile site, but I haven't yet figured out how to navigate to an 
article on it. Maybe it's not flash-laden?

Thanks,
Teresa
On Sep 13, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> I was able to navigate the main page fairly well but once I went into a 
> particular magazine it was one giant Flash object and Adobe has not made 
> Flash accessible on the Mac yet, and seems to be in no hurry to do so.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 9/13/10 4:12 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> Sorry; had the wrong spelling.
>> 
>> http://issuu.com/
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
>> On Sep 13, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> Is isuu.com the right URL? If so it appears to be a squatter page where 
>>> somebody just has a bunch of ads and junk up there hoping to gain a few 
>>> cents from folks stumbling upon their site.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 9/11/10 3:21 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 Has anyone tried reading the articles presented on this website? I'm not 
 sure if they're flash or not. I have a partially-sighted friend that says 
 VO will read them, but whenever I go to one, I get "one error opening 
 page" and no text resembling the body of an article. You can pick any 
 publication and article; I tried five at random, so I'm pretty sure 
 that'll work.
 
 Thanks for any help,
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Re: Issuu.com articles Accessible?

[Chris Blouch]

 I went to m. issuu.com and it sounds like they are just going to have 
apps to download, not a web-based reader.


CB

On 9/13/10 4:45 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Thanks for giving that a spin, Chris.

They do have a mobile site, but I haven't yet figured out how to navigate to an 
article on it. Maybe it's not flash-laden?

Thanks,
Teresa
On Sep 13, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:


I was able to navigate the main page fairly well but once I went into a 
particular magazine it was one giant Flash object and Adobe has not made Flash 
accessible on the Mac yet, and seems to be in no hurry to do so.

CB

On 9/13/10 4:12 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Sorry; had the wrong spelling.

http://issuu.com/

Thanks,
Teresa
On Sep 13, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:


Is isuu.com the right URL? If so it appears to be a squatter page where 
somebody just has a bunch of ads and junk up there hoping to gain a few cents 
from folks stumbling upon their site.

CB

On 9/11/10 3:21 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Has anyone tried reading the articles presented on this website? I'm not sure if they're 
flash or not. I have a partially-sighted friend that says VO will read them, but whenever 
I go to one, I get "one error opening page" and no text resembling the body of 
an article. You can pick any publication and article; I tried five at random, so I'm 
pretty sure that'll work.

Thanks for any help,
Teresa


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Re: duo core or i5 in mbp

[Chris Blouch]

 Back in the day, like 10 years ago, I was able to record 8 concurrent 
tracks on an old powerMac g4. I would suspect even mundane hardware 
today could handle all but the most extreme cases.


CB

On 9/8/10 6:08 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote:

hi,

I'll be using this for lectures, some language stuff, and also 
possibly for recording music with logic or garage band down the line. 
My concern is future proofing. Unfortunately, you can't get the 7200 
rpm harddrives in the 13 inch mbp's or I'd just go duo with a better 
harddrive.


Gotta love apple's packaged deal options, instead of letting you 
configure your heart out.

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Re: Entering text with VoiceOver on an iPad

[mani]

Hello Esther

Thank you so much for the detailed explanation and pointing me to some
resources.  It looks like I have a lot to learn, switching over from
my familiar key-stroke oriented VO to the gesture-oriented VO.
Hopefully, I will have my sanity intact.  :)

mani
On Sep 13, 3:22 pm, Esther  wrote:
> Hi Mani,
>
> On Sep 13, 2010, mani wrote:
>
> > On the address bar, how do I clear the existing text?
>
> I should also have mentioned, that in addition to flicking right to  
> the "Clear text" button and double-tapping, you can also "split tap"  
> with the delete key -- touch one finger to the "delete" key and use  
> another finger to tap on the screen.  If your insertion point was at  
> the end of the string, you will simply backwards delete the letters  
> you typed, starting from the end-most point.  To move the insertion  
> point to the end, double tap in the edit field until you hear  
> "insertion point at end", then use the delete key.
>
> HTH.  Cheers,
> Esther

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RE: duo core or i5 in mbp

[Cameron]

Hi.  it depends on what sort of recording we're referring to; If we are
talking about audio tracks, or, soft synths/virtual instruments that use
wave streaming etc.  the latter is where your processor and ram as well as
hd rpm really become important.

Are you a voiceover user by the way?  If so, the current versions of logic
are not accessible.  Pro tools is accessible for audio, but not for midi.
For example, the event list editor is not accessible with vo.  Hopefully
that will be addressed in a future update.

Cameron.





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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: duo core or i5 in mbp

  Back in the day, like 10 years ago, I was able to record 8 concurrent 
tracks on an old powerMac g4. I would suspect even mundane hardware 
today could handle all but the most extreme cases.

CB

On 9/8/10 6:08 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote:
> hi,
>
> I'll be using this for lectures, some language stuff, and also 
> possibly for recording music with logic or garage band down the line. 
> My concern is future proofing. Unfortunately, you can't get the 7200 
> rpm harddrives in the 13 inch mbp's or I'd just go duo with a better 
> harddrive.
>
> Gotta love apple's packaged deal options, instead of letting you 
> configure your heart out.
> MJ
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Re: duo core or i5 in mbp

[Chris Blouch]

 Right, this was just straight audio recording. Any processing was done 
with outboard gear or post processed. Software synths and effects can 
definitely chew up a lot of CPU. While I haven't played with this a lot 
I would assume rendering out the processed track to a new track would 
free up some resources. Back then we had a 32-channel analog Mackie fed 
into a Mac ProTools rig. At home I was running a little MOTU 8-channel 
firewire box with their Sound Desk software. Haven't played with it in 
years so I don't know if they even make it anymore or if it would work 
with OSX. Someday I should put the stuff I don't use up on ebay, just 
too much bother and would anyone still want a Emu Proteus MIDI box or a 
DAT recorder anymore :)


CB

On 9/13/10 5:02 PM, Cameron wrote:

Hi.  it depends on what sort of recording we're referring to; If we are
talking about audio tracks, or, soft synths/virtual instruments that use
wave streaming etc.  the latter is where your processor and ram as well as
hd rpm really become important.

Are you a voiceover user by the way?  If so, the current versions of logic
are not accessible.  Pro tools is accessible for audio, but not for midi.
For example, the event list editor is not accessible with vo.  Hopefully
that will be addressed in a future update.

Cameron.





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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: duo core or i5 in mbp

   Back in the day, like 10 years ago, I was able to record 8 concurrent
tracks on an old powerMac g4. I would suspect even mundane hardware
today could handle all but the most extreme cases.

CB

On 9/8/10 6:08 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote:

hi,

I'll be using this for lectures, some language stuff, and also
possibly for recording music with logic or garage band down the line.
My concern is future proofing. Unfortunately, you can't get the 7200
rpm harddrives in the 13 inch mbp's or I'd just go duo with a better
harddrive.

Gotta love apple's packaged deal options, instead of letting you
configure your heart out.
MJ



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Re: Entering text with VoiceOver on an iPad

[Charlie Doremus]

Hang in there you'll get it. Practice, practice

Aloha, 

Charlie

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On Sep 13, 2010, at 10:53 AM, mani  wrote:

> Hello Esther
> 
> Thank you so much for the detailed explanation and pointing me to some
> resources.  It looks like I have a lot to learn, switching over from
> my familiar key-stroke oriented VO to the gesture-oriented VO.
> Hopefully, I will have my sanity intact.  :)
> 
> mani
> On Sep 13, 3:22 pm, Esther  wrote:
>> Hi Mani,
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2010, mani wrote:
>> 
>>> On the address bar, how do I clear the existing text?
>> 
>> I should also have mentioned, that in addition to flicking right to  
>> the "Clear text" button and double-tapping, you can also "split tap"  
>> with the delete key -- touch one finger to the "delete" key and use  
>> another finger to tap on the screen.  If your insertion point was at  
>> the end of the string, you will simply backwards delete the letters  
>> you typed, starting from the end-most point.  To move the insertion  
>> point to the end, double tap in the edit field until you hear  
>> "insertion point at end", then use the delete key.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> Esther
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Re: A question

[Chris Blouch]

 Hmmm. I've never checked but I would guess not. If they want the mini 
to consume as little power as possible while sleeping they would 
probably shut down all non-essential power consumers like spinning hard 
drives and USB ports.


This seems to be confirmed in Apple's support article:

http://support.apple.com/kb/TA44551?viewlocale=en_US

CB

On 9/8/10 10:18 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:

Hi,
If I put my Mac Mini to sleep overnight, would it still charge my Ipod Shuffle? 
Thanks in advance.
Courtney



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Re: Any Solid State Drive users here?

[Scott Granados]

Cost about $1400 through Apple.

On Sep 10, 2010, at 6:09 PM, Braille wrote:

> 500GB SSD? Does it cost like 6000  dollars?
> 
> On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> I have the 500GB SSD drive in my Macbook Pro and love it.  Extremely fast 
>> (especially on reads) and very stable so far.
>> 
>> Only been using it for 2 - 3 weeks though.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
>> On Sep 8, 2010, at 5:48 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>> 
>>> Folks - If you have an SSD (solid state hard drive) in your Mac, would you 
>>> mind telling me about your experience with the performance of VoiceOver and 
>>> other day-to-day functions? I'm in the market for a larger hard drive for 
>>> my macbook and am considering an SSD or maybe purchasing a new or 
>>> refurbished Mac with an SSD.
>>> 
>>> TIA,
>>> Bryan
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Re: are there British US or Ostrailan male voices on ipods models/iphone with voiceover yet?

[Courtney Curran]

Hi,
Can you get the voice of Alex to sync to the Ipod touch? I sure hope so, this 
would be great if possible.
Courtney
Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 
08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info

On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> Daniel:
> Hi from one HI person to another
>  
> Apple has several male voices available on their macbooks with the latest 
> Osx10.6.  If you can get someone with a Mac to help you sync your device with 
> a Mac, you could get the male voice, Alex, who is pretty easy to understand.  
> Otherwise, I believe some of the other voices on the iPhone/touch etc have 
> male voices. 
> Carolyn
> - Original Message -
> From: Daniel McGee
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:30 AM
> Subject: are there British US or Ostrailan male voices on ipods models/iphone 
> with voiceover yet?
> 
> hello everyone, my Name is Daniel and I decided to join this list again after 
> a while because before I was getting too many emails but now I'm back! But as 
> my subject line says I was wondering for though's who use an ipod touch ipad 
> or whatever apple product that has voiceover on it. Do you know if you have 
> any male voices yet in it instead of the female voices that come with it. I 
> ask this because a while ago I sent an email to apple accessabilty and got a 
> responce saying that theywould forward it on the right people but haven't 
> heard of anything since. The reason I want this because as well as being 
> blind I have a hearing impairment too and have been since birth I wear 
> hearing aids. I just can't understand the female voices with the products. So 
> for thoughs who read this I would really be greatful if you could email 
> ap...@accessibility.com and if your not hearing in pared I would still really 
> be greatful if you could take the time for the bennifit of hearing in pared 
> people plus being blind to   explain this sort of situation to them. I have 
> sent them another email this morning UK time but as of yet I have had no 
> news. Its one of the things that's stopping me getting another ipod touch and 
> giving it another try! Honestly I find it so fustrating. 
> Well I hope to hear from you all soon. 
> Many Thanks and hope your all having a plesent day weather its morning, 
> afternoon or evening!
> Daniel  
> 
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Re: duo core or i5 in mbp

[Scott Granados]

Speaking of old Mac gear, I know the Synclavier has been reworked around Modern 
Intel Macs now.  I wonder if you could grab an old post pro SD or 9600 from 
Ebay and use it with Voice over.  I saw one from Lucass Film on ebay for under 
10 grand and I think you can get one from synclavier.com for under 25 grand 
which might osund like a lot but they were 750 large back in the day.


I used to work with one (synclavier 6400) and loved it!

On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Right, this was just straight audio recording. Any processing was done with 
> outboard gear or post processed. Software synths and effects can definitely 
> chew up a lot of CPU. While I haven't played with this a lot I would assume 
> rendering out the processed track to a new track would free up some 
> resources. Back then we had a 32-channel analog Mackie fed into a Mac 
> ProTools rig. At home I was running a little MOTU 8-channel firewire box with 
> their Sound Desk software. Haven't played with it in years so I don't know if 
> they even make it anymore or if it would work with OSX. Someday I should put 
> the stuff I don't use up on ebay, just too much bother and would anyone still 
> want a Emu Proteus MIDI box or a DAT recorder anymore :)
> 
> CB
> 
> On 9/13/10 5:02 PM, Cameron wrote:
>> Hi.  it depends on what sort of recording we're referring to; If we are
>> talking about audio tracks, or, soft synths/virtual instruments that use
>> wave streaming etc.  the latter is where your processor and ram as well as
>> hd rpm really become important.
>> 
>> Are you a voiceover user by the way?  If so, the current versions of logic
>> are not accessible.  Pro tools is accessible for audio, but not for midi.
>> For example, the event list editor is not accessible with vo.  Hopefully
>> that will be addressed in a future update.
>> 
>> Cameron.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:51 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: duo core or i5 in mbp
>> 
>>   Back in the day, like 10 years ago, I was able to record 8 concurrent
>> tracks on an old powerMac g4. I would suspect even mundane hardware
>> today could handle all but the most extreme cases.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 9/8/10 6:08 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote:
>>> hi,
>>> 
>>> I'll be using this for lectures, some language stuff, and also
>>> possibly for recording music with logic or garage band down the line.
>>> My concern is future proofing. Unfortunately, you can't get the 7200
>>> rpm harddrives in the 13 inch mbp's or I'd just go duo with a better
>>> harddrive.
>>> 
>>> Gotta love apple's packaged deal options, instead of letting you
>>> configure your heart out.
>>> MJ
>>> 
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Re: portrait lock

[Mike Arrigo]

Hi, first, press the home button twice to go to the application switcher. Now 
comes the interesting part, you need to flip 3 fingers either to the left or 
right depending on what page it starts on, and once you do that you will find 
an option for the portrait lock.
On Sep 13, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi list,
> 
> How do you lock the iphone in portrait display mode, so that it does not 
> landscape on you all the time if you move the phone? It is in the iphone 
> manual, but I believe I need to do something different with voice over 
> active, as the instruction found there gets me no where.
> An ideas how to lock in portrait? 
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Re: trackpad gesture that mutes speech in voiceover

[Mike Arrigo]

I think it's a 3 finger triple tap that does it.
On Sep 13, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

> Yesterday, while using my magic trackpad, I did something that muted 
> voiceover. I was trying to do the rotor gesture. My trackpad has been acting 
> weirdly lately anyway; I thought the batteries might need changing, but the 
> Mac says the level is 87%, so that must not be it. Anyway, once I did 
> whatever it was to accidentally mute speech, I was lucky enough to have 
> sighted help, who could go and find the mute speech toggle in the voice over 
> commands menu. I looked through the gestures and commands in track pad 
> commander but no luck there. What was the gesture to mute speech so I can 
> perhaps do it again to undo the mistake in future and not have to resort to 
> sighted help? Thanks.
> 
> Mary
> Mary Otten
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Re: trackpad gesture that mutes speech in voiceover

[Mary Otten]

Hi Geof, and thanks for the appendix A reference. As for how you look it up 
when voice over is silent, I guess you assign a keyboard commander and/or a 
number pad commander gesture to the mute speech toggle and, between one of the 
3 of those things, you may remember one of them and thus get out of the pickle. 
Now just now my trackpad confused a rotor gesture with a three finger double 
tap is another matter. I don't claim to be the best at gestures, but those seem 
pretty different to me, and I've been using the Ipod touch for months and never 
had that happen.

Mary

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Re: are there British US or Ostrailan male voices on ipods models/iphone with voiceover yet?

[Ian McNamara]

would advice you to get a mac mate had mine for just over a week and i love it. 
it's the best bit of money i have spent in a while and i am having so much fun 
learning it. i have to confess a year a go i was aunty mac and you would never 
have got me near one i am glad that i now have took the plunge as it has not 
been as steeper learning curve as i thought. 

Ian McNamara 

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Re: are there British US or Ostrailan male voices on ipods models/iphone with voiceover yet?

[Carolyn]

Ian:
What's a mac mate?  Telling an appleaholic about such things is a dangerous 
idea

Carolyn
  - Original Message - 
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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 6:38 PM
  Subject: Re: are there British US or Ostrailan male voices on ipods 
models/iphone with voiceover yet?


  would advice you to get a mac mate had mine for just over a week and i love 
it. it's the best bit of money i have spent in a while and i am having so much 
fun learning it. i have to confess a year a go i was aunty mac and you would 
never have got me near one i am glad that i now have took the plunge as it has 
not been as steeper learning curve as i thought. 

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Re: VO J not working in new ITunes, any alternatives?

[carlene knight]

Sometimes it seems as though you can't just Vo/arrow over twice.  I'm glad 
somebody told me about Command/vo/t.  as Sometimes the placement of items seems 
to be different and I have never figured out why.

On Sep 9, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Tedious?  You would only have to press VO left or right 2 times to get from 
> one table to the other. :).  That just one more key press than control J.  
> but, you can also press VO command T to jump from sources table to songs 
> table.
> 
> hth
> On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Lynn Schneider wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone.  Since upgrading to the latest ITunes a few days ago, I have 
>> noticed that I can no longer use VO-J to jump from the sources table to the 
>> list of songs.  Arrowing around is a bit tedious, so I was wondering if 
>> anyone out there had another solution for me or could at least explain why 
>> my formerly handy VO-J no longer works.
>> 
>> Thanks very much in advance for any insights.
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ITunes search

[carlene knight]

 Hi all:

The search feature doesn't seem to want to work correctly in ITunes 10.  I type 
in a search quary and come up with a blank list.  I've tried using search 
options to no avail.  Does anybody know what's going on or how to use the 
search feature now?  I seem to have problems others don't have.  It's the 
nature of things, I guess.  :)  It's frustrating though., Thanks in advance.

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Re: VO J not working in new ITunes, any alternatives?

[carlene knight]

Hi:

When I use command/option 3 to go to list-view in ITunes, I no longer see my 
LCD section.  The browser is on, but I can not tell what band or artist is 
oplaying as I could before.  Yes, the browser was on earlier  too but I could 
still view the LCD section for artist or song identification.  I guess you 
can't have your cake and eat it too huh?

On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Actually you can press vo cmd t to get back and forth. I can even do this 
> from anyware in itunes so far as I can see.
> 
> S
> On Sep 9, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Tedious?  You would only have to press VO left or right 2 times to get from 
>> one table to the other. :).  That just one more key press than control J.  
>> but, you can also press VO command T to jump from sources table to songs 
>> table.
>> 
>> hth
>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Lynn Schneider wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone.  Since upgrading to the latest ITunes a few days ago, I have 
>>> noticed that I can no longer use VO-J to jump from the sources table to the 
>>> list of songs.  Arrowing around is a bit tedious, so I was wondering if 
>>> anyone out there had another solution for me or could at least explain why 
>>> my formerly handy VO-J no longer works.
>>> 
>>> Thanks very much in advance for any insights.
>>> 
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Re: VO J not working in new ITunes, any alternatives?

[Ricardo Walker]

Yeah, :(

The got rid of the LCD in iTunes 10.  It's a little harder to find the 
currently play track now.  But I noticed when you playing a song, You can find 
the info by vO left arrowing from the songs table.  It shows up inbetween the 
sources table and search field.
On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:25 PM, carlene knight wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> When I use command/option 3 to go to list-view in ITunes, I no longer see my 
> LCD section.  The browser is on, but I can not tell what band or artist is 
> oplaying as I could before.  Yes, the browser was on earlier  too but I could 
> still view the LCD section for artist or song identification.  I guess you 
> can't have your cake and eat it too huh?
> 
> On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Actually you can press vo cmd t to get back and forth. I can even do this 
>> from anyware in itunes so far as I can see.
>> 
>> S
>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Tedious?  You would only have to press VO left or right 2 times to get from 
>>> one table to the other. :).  That just one more key press than control J.  
>>> but, you can also press VO command T to jump from sources table to songs 
>>> table.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Lynn Schneider wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone.  Since upgrading to the latest ITunes a few days ago, I have 
 noticed that I can no longer use VO-J to jump from the sources table to 
 the list of songs.  Arrowing around is a bit tedious, so I was wondering 
 if anyone out there had another solution for me or could at least explain 
 why my formerly handy VO-J no longer works.
 
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Re: ITunes search

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

What playlist were you in when you were trying to perform your search?
On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:18 PM, carlene knight wrote:

> Hi all:
> 
> The search feature doesn't seem to want to work correctly in ITunes 10.  I 
> type in a search quary and come up with a blank list.  I've tried using 
> search options to no avail.  Does anybody know what's going on or how to use 
> the search feature now?  I seem to have problems others don't have.  It's the 
> nature of things, I guess.  :)  It's frustrating though., Thanks in advance.
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Re: are there British US or Ostrailan male voices on ipods models/iphone with voiceover yet?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

No.  The voices on the iDevices are still all female in English.

hth
On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:

> Hi Carolyn, I actually don't own a Mac but sounds interesting though. But 
> correct me if I'm wrong the  ipod models/iphone have male voices but they are 
> in other languages like french spanish don't know what languages/names they 
> are but basicly the male voices are in other languages not the english which 
> are all female voices. Of course maybe that's changed now. I would be 
> greatful if you or someone else could tell me if this is so. As for the other 
> thing you was describing it sounds like the "spoken menus" that came out in 
> the ipod 4th Genaration which basicly when you synk your ipod for the 1st 
> time ipod nano 4th gen and above it creates audio files so that when you use 
> it when you are using the click wheel you can hear the genarated voice clips 
> depending on your voice that you have selected in the pc/mac to be spoken on 
> your ipod. 
> But thanks for your comments anyway.
> Daniel   
> 
> From: Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:10 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: are there British US or Ostrailan male voices on ipods 
> models/iphone with voiceover yet?
> 
> Daniel:
> Hi from one HI person to another
>  
> Apple has several male voices available on their macbooks with the latest 
> Osx10.6.  If you can get someone with a Mac to help you sync your device with 
> a Mac, you could get the male voice, Alex, who is pretty easy to understand.  
> Otherwise, I believe some of the other voices on the iPhone/touch etc have 
> male voices. 
> Carolyn
> - Original Message -
> From: Daniel McGee
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:30 AM
> Subject: are there British US or Ostrailan male voices on ipods models/iphone 
> with voiceover yet?
> 
> hello everyone, my Name is Daniel and I decided to join this list again after 
> a while because before I was getting too many emails but now I'm back! But as 
> my subject line says I was wondering for though's who use an ipod touch ipad 
> or whatever apple product that has voiceover on it. Do you know if you have 
> any male voices yet in it instead of the female voices that come with it. I 
> ask this because a while ago I sent an email to apple accessabilty and got a 
> responce saying that theywould forward it on the right people but haven't 
> heard of anything since. The reason I want this because as well as being 
> blind I have a hearing impairment too and have been since birth I wear 
> hearing aids. I just can't understand the female voices with the products. So 
> for thoughs who read this I would really be greatful if you could email 
> ap...@accessibility.com and if your not hearing in pared I would still really 
> be greatful if you could take the time for the bennifit of hearing in pared 
> people plus being blind to   explain this sort of situation to them. I have 
> sent them another email this morning UK time but as of yet I have had no 
> news. Its one of the things that's stopping me getting another ipod touch and 
> giving it another try! Honestly I find it so fustrating. 
> Well I hope to hear from you all soon. 
> Many Thanks and hope your all having a plesent day weather its morning, 
> afternoon or evening!
> Daniel  
> 
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Re: trackpad gesture that mutes speech in voiceover

[carlene knight]

Three finger double tap.  That's one of the few things I can get to work on the 
Magic track pad.
On Sep 13, 2010, at 8:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

> Yesterday, while using my magic trackpad, I did something that muted 
> voiceover. I was trying to do the rotor gesture. My trackpad has been acting 
> weirdly lately anyway; I thought the batteries might need changing, but the 
> Mac says the level is 87%, so that must not be it. Anyway, once I did 
> whatever it was to accidentally mute speech, I was lucky enough to have 
> sighted help, who could go and find the mute speech toggle in the voice over 
> commands menu. I looked through the gestures and commands in track pad 
> commander but no luck there. What was the gesture to mute speech so I can 
> perhaps do it again to undo the mistake in future and not have to resort to 
> sighted help? Thanks.
> 
> Mary
> Mary Otten
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Re: trackpad gesture that mutes speech in voiceover

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Just curious,  What gestures do you find yourself having the most trouble with? 
 I'm thinking about putting a Podcast together about using the track pad with 
voiceover and I'm just collecting some info.

Thanks
On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:38 PM, carlene knight wrote:

> Three finger double tap.  That's one of the few things I can get to work on 
> the Magic track pad.
> On Sep 13, 2010, at 8:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
>> Yesterday, while using my magic trackpad, I did something that muted 
>> voiceover. I was trying to do the rotor gesture. My trackpad has been acting 
>> weirdly lately anyway; I thought the batteries might need changing, but the 
>> Mac says the level is 87%, so that must not be it. Anyway, once I did 
>> whatever it was to accidentally mute speech, I was lucky enough to have 
>> sighted help, who could go and find the mute speech toggle in the voice over 
>> commands menu. I looked through the gestures and commands in track pad 
>> commander but no luck there. What was the gesture to mute speech so I can 
>> perhaps do it again to undo the mistake in future and not have to resort to 
>> sighted help? Thanks.
>> 
>> Mary
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: ITunes search

[Sarah Alawami]

No issues here. I was able to search for apps just fine in the apps store.

good luck.

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> Hi all:
> 
> The search feature doesn't seem to want to work correctly in ITunes 10.  I 
> type in a search quary and come up with a blank list.  I've tried using 
> search options to no avail.  Does anybody know what's going on or how to use 
> the search feature now?  I seem to have problems others don't have.  It's the 
> nature of things, I guess.  :)  It's frustrating though., Thanks in advance.
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Re: VO J not working in new ITunes, any alternatives?

[Sarah Alawami]

The lcd section is mixed in with the other stuff before the sources table. Just 
vo left and right past the vol section and after the search field.

S

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> Hi:
> 
> When I use command/option 3 to go to list-view in ITunes, I no longer see my 
> LCD section.  The browser is on, but I can not tell what band or artist is 
> oplaying as I could before.  Yes, the browser was on earlier  too but I could 
> still view the LCD section for artist or song identification.  I guess you 
> can't have your cake and eat it too huh?
> 
> On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Actually you can press vo cmd t to get back and forth. I can even do this 
>> from anyware in itunes so far as I can see.
>> 
>> S
>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Tedious?  You would only have to press VO left or right 2 times to get from 
>>> one table to the other. :).  That just one more key press than control J.  
>>> but, you can also press VO command T to jump from sources table to songs 
>>> table.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Lynn Schneider wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone.  Since upgrading to the latest ITunes a few days ago, I have 
 noticed that I can no longer use VO-J to jump from the sources table to 
 the list of songs.  Arrowing around is a bit tedious, so I was wondering 
 if anyone out there had another solution for me or could at least explain 
 why my formerly handy VO-J no longer works.
 
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Re: VO J not working in new ITunes, any alternatives?

[Sarah Alawami]

Try vo cmd t to move to the tables an dadd the shift to that to move backward.

Good luck.

On Sep 13, 2010, at 20:34, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Yeah, :(
> 
> The got rid of the LCD in iTunes 10.  It's a little harder to find the 
> currently play track now.  But I noticed when you playing a song, You can 
> find the info by vO left arrowing from the songs table.  It shows up 
> inbetween the sources table and search field.
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> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> When I use command/option 3 to go to list-view in ITunes, I no longer see my 
>> LCD section.  The browser is on, but I can not tell what band or artist is 
>> oplaying as I could before.  Yes, the browser was on earlier  too but I 
>> could still view the LCD section for artist or song identification.  I guess 
>> you can't have your cake and eat it too huh?
>> 
>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually you can press vo cmd t to get back and forth. I can even do this 
>>> from anyware in itunes so far as I can see.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Tedious?  You would only have to press VO left or right 2 times to get 
 from one table to the other. :).  That just one more key press than 
 control J.  but, you can also press VO command T to jump from sources 
 table to songs table.
 
 hth
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> Hi everyone.  Since upgrading to the latest ITunes a few days ago, I have 
> noticed that I can no longer use VO-J to jump from the sources table to 
> the list of songs.  Arrowing around is a bit tedious, so I was wondering 
> if anyone out there had another solution for me or could at least explain 
> why my formerly handy VO-J no longer works.
> 
> Thanks very much in advance for any insights.
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RS games client not working, help please?

[johns.kary]

Hi guys,
Can someone give me a hand with the RS games client?

I've downloaded the mac client from 
http://www.x-sight-interactive.net/rsgames/

I've used command O to open the DMG file, and vo space to enter the RS client.
When it opens all it says is RS has no windows.
I've looked through the website, and googled and cant find any answers.
Am I missing something obvious hear?
Thanks for any help.
Kari.

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Re: RS games client not working, help please?

[Sarah Alawami]

Hello. did you copy the app file to yourapps folder first? try that and then 
run the rs games client.

On Sep 13, 2010, at 22:37, "johns.kary"  wrote:

> Hi guys,
> Can someone give me a hand with the RS games client?
> 
> I've downloaded the mac client from 
> http://www.x-sight-interactive.net/rsgames/
> 
> I've used command O to open the DMG file, and vo space to enter the RS client.
> When it opens all it says is RS has no windows.
> I've looked through the website, and googled and cant find any answers.
> Am I missing something obvious hear?
> Thanks for any help.
> Kari.
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