Re: mac flash guys speak
I have a good friend in the accessibility portion of Adobe. I can ask him and he can say what he is allowed to. On Feb 20, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > Hi list, > > I think there might be some interesting movement coming along the adobe side, > after the news that photoshop and flash will be all in coco (we dont care for > the former, but the latter has been the seat of much debate). > > Heres the article: > > http://www.kaourantin.net/2010/02/core-animation.html > > Now the actual process that the adobe engineers have gone to get a proper > redraw frequency in safair is coupled with the coco layer, which facilitate > labelling on buttons (because that's what they really are, just that a lot of > lazy flash devvers don't use them as means of calling a specific object > within construction). I know as i have been actionscripting when sighted, and > flash being a very litterally object oriented language, calls can be made in > many different ways. > > THis standardization of flash developement ethics will not be made > overnight, but if thinking the way of adobe's blogs from technicians, i > believe it would make sense to speak directly to the guys as the one who > wrote the article above, to not only request a feature, but give them the > thread so to speak, and incentive to do so. > > What do you think? > > Cheers > > > > > Yuma Decaux > > Light has no value without darkness > Skype: shainobi1 > blog: www.theblindsamurai.com > twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 > Tel: +85513623378 > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Flash, again
I still think HTML 5 will be better. On Feb 20, 2010, at 11:07 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > Oh, i forgot to mention in the previous thread, on the labels. > > The reason why we read button1 everywhere in a lot of flash when using jaws > is because of the instanciation of a button, which then aren't properly > named, so the default button1 residing in the main library is called. There > will not ever be a workaround in this, unless adobe does something such as > force the devver to label each of his/her buttons instances. > > Two hurdles then for VO users to adress: > > 1-Drawing methods used in the flash portion of safari, core animation instead > of other methods, coco instead of carbon. > 2-standardization of labels from all flash devvers. > > The first seems to be coming up with flash 10.1, meaning we will have the > same level of accessibility as jaws or window eyes users. > > The second is not as evident, as myself used to, though being meticulous, > omit a lot of the labelling chores. > > At any rate, if flash can use the core animation API, it means that, just > like skype, there will be access to at least the upper-layers of the flash > code via coco, therfore via scripting native to the mac. > > THis is going to be good :) > > > Yuma Decaux > > Light has no value without darkness > Skype: shainobi1 > blog: www.theblindsamurai.com > twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 > Tel: +85513623378 > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Duelling IMAPs?
Hello everyone, At present, I regularly use two different computers for checking my mail. One of these is my PC running Windows 7, using Thunderbird and the other is my Mac where I Have Snow Leopard installed. I use the mail client that is a part of SL. Right now, whenever I check mail on the PC, messages are automatically placed in folders that I have set up. Whenever I then go to the Mac, these messages are also in their respective folders. The problem arises, however, when any new messages arrive in my inbox while using the Mac. They are not placed in their designated folders. The reason for this is simple: I haven't set up any filters on the Mac side of the equation. I was recently told that it would be best to only have one computer do all the filtering. However, I am using my Mac more and more, and I'd like to be able to have the mail program on the Mac automatically place messages in the right folders. So my question is this: If I am really careful about setting up filters on the Mac, making sure that both systems use precisely the same filtering criteria, should there be any problems having the Mac do the message filtering when I use it and having the PC do the message filtering whenever I use it? I was told that tidbits.com would soon be releasing a Take Control publication for the Mac mail program. I am looking forward to purchasing it and hoping that it will address issues such as this one. My best to all, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Duelling IMAPs?
Mike, I don't see a problem with this, in fact, isn't it the entire point of IMap? I mean, if it were going to be a problem moving your mail around with message filters, then what about deleting a message. Wouldn't that cause a hassel, since you're essentially moving it from the inbox to your trash folder? I say go for it. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2010-02-21, at 10:02 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello everyone, > > At present, I regularly use two different computers for checking my mail. > One of these is my PC running Windows 7, using Thunderbird and the other is > my Mac where I Have Snow Leopard installed. I use the mail client that is a > part of SL. > > Right now, whenever I check mail on the PC, messages are automatically placed > in folders that I have set up. Whenever I then go to the Mac, these messages > are also in their respective folders. The problem arises, however, when any > new messages arrive in my inbox while using the Mac. They are not placed in > their designated folders. The reason for this is simple: I haven't set up > any filters on the Mac side of the equation. I was recently told that it > would be best to only have one computer do all the filtering. However, I am > using my Mac more and more, and I'd like to be able to have the mail program > on the Mac automatically place messages in the right folders. So my question > is this: If I am really careful about setting up filters on the Mac, making > sure that both systems use precisely the same filtering criteria, should > there be any problems having the Mac do the message filtering when I use it > and having the PC do the message filtering whenever I use it? > > I was told that tidbits.com would soon be releasing a Take Control > publication for the Mac mail program. I am looking forward to purchasing it > and hoping that it will address issues such as this one. > > My best to all, > > Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Duelling IMAPs?
Those are my hopes as well, Erik, but I just want to avoid any caveats where I inadvertently fail to mirror the filtering rules on both sites. Mike On 2010-02-21 16:47, erik burggraaf wrote: Mike, I don't see a problem with this, in fact, isn't it the entire point of IMap? I mean, if it were going to be a problem moving your mail around with message filters, then what about deleting a message. Wouldn't that cause a hassel, since you're essentially moving it from the inbox to your trash folder? I say go for it. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2010-02-21, at 10:02 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello everyone, At present, I regularly use two different computers for checking my mail. One of these is my PC running Windows 7, using Thunderbird and the other is my Mac where I Have Snow Leopard installed. I use the mail client that is a part of SL. Right now, whenever I check mail on the PC, messages are automatically placed in folders that I have set up. Whenever I then go to the Mac, these messages are also in their respective folders. The problem arises, however, when any new messages arrive in my inbox while using the Mac. They are not placed in their designated folders. The reason for this is simple: I haven't set up any filters on the Mac side of the equation. I was recently told that it would be best to only have one computer do all the filtering. However, I am using my Mac more and more, and I'd like to be able to have the mail program on the Mac automatically place messages in the right folders. So my question is this: If I am really careful about setting up filters on the Mac, making sure that both systems use precisely the same filtering criteria, should there be any problems having the Mac do the message filtering when I use it and having the PC do the message filtering whenever I use it? I was told that tidbits.com would soon be releasing a Take Control publication for the Mac mail program. I am looking forward to purchasing it and hoping that it will address issues such as this one. My best to all, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Duelling IMAPs?
Hi, Mike. To answer your question, I don't think there should be any issue at all so long as you don't have both systems set up to receive and organize the mail at a specific time schedule. That is, so long as the systems are receiving mail and organizing it on command rather than, perhaps, every ten minutes, there should be no issues. It might be interesting to see what happened of both systems were attempting to reorganize messages at the same time. This isn't because IMAP would have trouble with this, IMAP specifically allows simultaneous access, but some implementations aren't really robust enough to take significant work by more than one client on more than one message. Basically, if you have either computer to work on a schedule, and if the other computer starts its own work at the same time, you are reliant on the excellence of the server to handle things properly. However, if the systems are working one by one, there should be no problem. Even if there was an issue, things would get a bit confused and the issues could be corrected, it wouldn't be any sort of serious difficulty. Further, keep in mind that some ISPs allow you to do server-side classification of some sort. Personally, I don't like this, I prefer to have my filters running myself and working on both my POP and IMAP servers from the same application, but you may think differently. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:03 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Duelling IMAPs? Hello everyone, At present, I regularly use two different computers for checking my mail. One of these is my PC running Windows 7, using Thunderbird and the other is my Mac where I Have Snow Leopard installed. I use the mail client that is a part of SL. Right now, whenever I check mail on the PC, messages are automatically placed in folders that I have set up. Whenever I then go to the Mac, these messages are also in their respective folders. The problem arises, however, when any new messages arrive in my inbox while using the Mac. They are not placed in their designated folders. The reason for this is simple: I haven't set up any filters on the Mac side of the equation. I was recently told that it would be best to only have one computer do all the filtering. However, I am using my Mac more and more, and I'd like to be able to have the mail program on the Mac automatically place messages in the right folders. So my question is this: If I am really careful about setting up filters on the Mac, making sure that both systems use precisely the same filtering criteria, should there be any problems having the Mac do the message filtering when I use it and having the PC do the message filtering whenever I use it? I was told that tidbits.com would soon be releasing a Take Control publication for the Mac mail program. I am looking forward to purchasing it and hoping that it will address issues such as this one. My best to all, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Duelling IMAPs?
Hi, Aman, Long time, no talk. Great hearing from you! Truth be told, I never have a scheduled time for having my systems pick up mail asside from the fact that whenever my email client is open, it'll grab the mail every five minutes or so. So in the spirit of embarking on an adventure, I'll try my hand at creating filters for the Mac e-mail client. I'll just make sure that Thunderbird on the PC isn't running. Do you know if there is a good "how to" on this subject out there? Again, it's nice having you on my radar, Aman! Mike On 2010-02-21 17:55, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, Mike. To answer your question, I don't think there should be any issue at all so long as you don't have both systems set up to receive and organize the mail at a specific time schedule. That is, so long as the systems are receiving mail and organizing it on command rather than, perhaps, every ten minutes, there should be no issues. It might be interesting to see what happened of both systems were attempting to reorganize messages at the same time. This isn't because IMAP would have trouble with this, IMAP specifically allows simultaneous access, but some implementations aren't really robust enough to take significant work by more than one client on more than one message. Basically, if you have either computer to work on a schedule, and if the other computer starts its own work at the same time, you are reliant on the excellence of the server to handle things properly. However, if the systems are working one by one, there should be no problem. Even if there was an issue, things would get a bit confused and the issues could be corrected, it wouldn't be any sort of serious difficulty. Further, keep in mind that some ISPs allow you to do server-side classification of some sort. Personally, I don't like this, I prefer to have my filters running myself and working on both my POP and IMAP servers from the same application, but you may think differently. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:03 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Duelling IMAPs? Hello everyone, At present, I regularly use two different computers for checking my mail. One of these is my PC running Windows 7, using Thunderbird and the other is my Mac where I Have Snow Leopard installed. I use the mail client that is a part of SL. Right now, whenever I check mail on the PC, messages are automatically placed in folders that I have set up. Whenever I then go to the Mac, these messages are also in their respective folders. The problem arises, however, when any new messages arrive in my inbox while using the Mac. They are not placed in their designated folders. The reason for this is simple: I haven't set up any filters on the Mac side of the equation. I was recently told that it would be best to only have one computer do all the filtering. However, I am using my Mac more and more, and I'd like to be able to have the mail program on the Mac automatically place messages in the right folders. So my question is this: If I am really careful about setting up filters on the Mac, making sure that both systems use precisely the same filtering criteria, should there be any problems having the Mac do the message filtering when I use it and having the PC do the message filtering whenever I use it? I was told that tidbits.com would soon be releasing a Take Control publication for the Mac mail program. I am looking forward to purchasing it and hoping that it will address issues such as this one. My best to all, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
escaping out of menus
hi, a friend of mine when she goes into menus on her macbook an't press escape and close the menus. any ideas? Thanks WIll -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Looking on an article explaining the switch to VoiceOver
Good afternoon, I am writing a blog post in which I would like to reference an article or blog post that gives a good explanation of the paradigm shift between windows screen-readers and VoiceOver. All suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Looking on an article explaining the switch to VoiceOver
Everett: I am trying to make the transition of which you are writ ing, and confess it's been very slow. The differences in how material is presented on the screen by a probram such as Jaws vs voice-over has me really pretty well stumped. Case in point, there is a grocery-store website, (kingsoopers.com) that I regularly peruse with my PC. I usually view items in categories, ad them to my list and keep browsing. I tried using my macbook pro with vo for this task yesterday and gave up completely in frustration. I couldn't get signed in, couldn't get the categories to read properly, nor could I get the computer to even stay in the site I was trying to work on. Then if I selected an item to add to the list, I was taken back to the beginning of the website. Or getting hung up in "Safari busy,... busy ... busy ..."Now, I'm not writing simply to whine, though it feels that way. What I'm expressing is that what is for some a very simple transition has for me been a love/hate relationship. And while I get lots of information tidbits, from very gracious folks who are successfully doing the Mac thing, somehow they're not assimilating into an understanding of how VO presents info and how best to interact with it. I've always been someone who could pretty much figure things out, but this computer and transition from windows with Jaws to Snowleopard and VO has me feeling very humbled. Anyway, thanks for reading. Carolyn Haas ch:)On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:12 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: > Good afternoon, > > I am writing a blog post in which I would like to reference an article or > blog post that gives a good explanation of the paradigm shift between windows > screen-readers and VoiceOver. All suggestions appreciated. > > Thanks, > Everett Zufelt > http://zufelt.ca > > Follow me on Twitter > http://twitter.com/ezufelt > > View my LinkedIn Profile > http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Looking on an article explaining the switch to VoiceOver
Good afternoon Carolyn, I think that I can safely say that most of us who have made the switch have been there, or are in some part still there. I actually do the majority of my web browsing in Firefox with JAWS running as a virtual machine on my Mac. Just to clarify though, I'm not actually writing on this topic, just would like to give a reference to an article on the topic as part of the article that I am writing on my mission to find a good word processor. Thanks, Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 2010-02-21, at 2:39 PM, ch...@q.com wrote: Everett: I am trying to make the transition of which you are writ ing, and confess it's been very slow. The differences in how material is presented on the screen by a probram such as Jaws vs voice-over has me really pretty well stumped. Case in point, there is a grocery-store website, (kingsoopers.com) that I regularly peruse with my PC. I usually view items in categories, ad them to my list and keep browsing. I tried using my macbook pro with vo for this task yesterday and gave up completely in frustration. I couldn't get signed in, couldn't get the categories to read properly, nor could I get the computer to even stay in the site I was trying to work on. Then if I selected an item to add to the list, I was taken back to the beginning of the website. Or getting hung up in "Safari busy,... busy ... busy ..."Now, I'm not writing simply to whine, though it feels that way. What I'm expressing is that what is for some a very simple transition has for me been a love/hate relationship. And while I get lots of information tidbits, from very gracious folks who are successfully doing the Mac thing, somehow they're not assimilating into an understanding of how VO presents info and how best to interact with it. I've always been someone who could pretty much figure things out, but this computer and transition from windows with Jaws to Snowleopard and VO has me feeling very humbled. Anyway, thanks for reading. Carolyn Haas ch:)On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:12 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: Good afternoon, I am writing a blog post in which I would like to reference an article or blog post that gives a good explanation of the paradigm shift between windows screen-readers and VoiceOver. All suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Converting and decompressing RAR files into MP3 in Snow Leopard
Hi Folks: What do I need to decompress and convert RAR files into MP3 on the mac using Snow Leopard with VO? Thanks in advance, Kim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Duelling IMAPs?
Hi, Mike. Yes indeed, it's been a while, and it is great to see you're around. I think I have you on my Skype but haven't seen you online for donkeys' years. Hope all is going well. I think you're quite right, below. Make sure that Thunderbird is closed and then try the filters through the Mac. If that works, and I see no reason why it should not, and you want to keep Thunderbird and the client running on the Mac working simultaneously, turn the PC mailer back on, when you next want it, and see what your server does with them both talking to it at the same time. As I said, IMAP should handle this well so unless your server's particular implementation of the protocol is problematic, you shouldn't have an issue. As for howTos on filtering, I'm afraid I know nothing whatever about the Mac. I'm just looking at getting one at some point and am vastly grateful for the information I'm seeing on this list. Good luck with the filters. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Duelling IMAPs? Hi, Aman, Long time, no talk. Great hearing from you! Truth be told, I never have a scheduled time for having my systems pick up mail asside from the fact that whenever my email client is open, it'll grab the mail every five minutes or so. So in the spirit of embarking on an adventure, I'll try my hand at creating filters for the Mac e-mail client. I'll just make sure that Thunderbird on the PC isn't running. Do you know if there is a good "how to" on this subject out there? Again, it's nice having you on my radar, Aman! Mike On 2010-02-21 17:55, Aman Singer wrote: > Hi, Mike. > To answer your question, I don't think there should be any issue at > all so long as you don't have both systems set up to receive and > organize the mail at a specific time schedule. That is, so long as the > systems are receiving mail and organizing it on command rather than, > perhaps, every ten minutes, there should be no issues. It might be > interesting to see what happened of both systems were attempting to > reorganize messages at the same time. This isn't because IMAP would > have trouble with this, IMAP specifically allows simultaneous access, > but some implementations aren't really robust enough to take > significant work by more than one client on more than one message. > Basically, if you have either computer to work on a schedule, and if > the other computer starts its own work at the same time, you are reliant on the excellence of the server to handle things properly. > However, if the systems are working one by one, there should be no problem. > Even if there was an issue, things would get a bit confused and the > issues could be corrected, it wouldn't be any sort of serious difficulty. > Further, keep in mind that some ISPs allow you to do server-side > classification of some sort. Personally, I don't like this, I prefer > to have my filters running myself and working on both my POP and IMAP > servers from the same application, but you may think differently. > Aman > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:03 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Duelling IMAPs? > > Hello everyone, > > At present, I regularly use two different computers for checking my mail. > One of these is my PC running Windows 7, using Thunderbird and the > other is my Mac where I Have Snow Leopard installed. I use the mail > client that is a part of SL. > > Right now, whenever I check mail on the PC, messages are automatically > placed in folders that I have set up. Whenever I then go to the Mac, > these messages are also in their respective folders. The problem > arises, however, when any new messages arrive in my inbox while using > the Mac. They are not placed in their designated folders. The reason > for this is simple: I haven't set up any filters on the Mac side of > the equation. I was recently told that it would be best to only have one computer do all the filtering. > However, I am using my Mac more and more, and I'd like to be able to > have the mail program on the Mac automatically place messages in the > right folders. So my question is > this: If I am really careful about setting up filters on the Mac, > making sure that both systems use precisely the same filtering > criteria, should there be any problems having the Mac do the message > filtering when I use it and having the PC do the message filtering whenever I use it? > > I was told that tidbits.com would soon be releasing a Take Control > publication for the Mac mail program. I am looking forward to > purchasing it and hoping that it will address issues such as this one. >
Re: Looking on an article explaining the switch to VoiceOver
Sorry about that. Guess I just had a good whine at your expense Thanks. Carolyn - Original Message - From: E.J. Zufelt To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: Re: Looking on an article explaining the switch to VoiceOver Good afternoon Carolyn, I think that I can safely say that most of us who have made the switch have been there, or are in some part still there. I actually do the majority of my web browsing in Firefox with JAWS running as a virtual machine on my Mac. Just to clarify though, I'm not actually writing on this topic, just would like to give a reference to an article on the topic as part of the article that I am writing on my mission to find a good word processor. Thanks, Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 2010-02-21, at 2:39 PM, ch...@q.com wrote: Everett: I am trying to make the transition of which you are writ ing, and confess it's been very slow. The differences in how material is presented on the screen by a probram such as Jaws vs voice-over has me really pretty well stumped. Case in point, there is a grocery-store website, (kingsoopers.com) that I regularly peruse with my PC. I usually view items in categories, ad them to my list and keep browsing. I tried using my macbook pro with vo for this task yesterday and gave up completely in frustration. I couldn't get signed in, couldn't get the categories to read properly, nor could I get the computer to even stay in the site I was trying to work on. Then if I selected an item to add to the list, I was taken back to the beginning of the website. Or getting hung up in "Safari busy,... busy ... busy ..."Now, I'm not writing simply to whine, though it feels that way. What I'm expressing is that what is for some a very simple transition has for me been a love/hate relationship. And while I get lots of information tidbits, from very gracious folks who are successfully doing the Mac thing, somehow they're not assimilating into an understanding of how VO presents info and how best to interact with it. I've always been someone who could pretty much figure things out, but this computer and transition from windows with Jaws to Snowleopard and VO has me feeling very humbled. Anyway, thanks for reading. Carolyn Haas ch:)On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:12 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: Good afternoon, I am writing a blog post in which I would like to reference an article or blog post that gives a good explanation of the paradigm shift between windows screen-readers and VoiceOver. All suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Converting and decompressing RAR files into MP3 in Snow Leopard
Just to clarify what you are trying to do... You want to extract the contents of a rar file correct? Rar files are like zip ones in that they are an envelope or wrapper for the packaging of files. You cannot convert a rar into an mp3. if you just want to extract the contents of a rar which contains mp3 files then go to macupdate.com and do a search for rar or get "the unarchiver" from there also as it will extract almost every archive format. if the rar is encrypted and keeps asking you for a password and you dont know what it is then there are some difficult password cracking tools for windows i think which will help. HTH Kieren On Feb 22, 4:53 am, Kimberly thurman wrote: > Hi Folks: > > What do I need to decompress and convert RAR files into MP3 on the mac using > Snow Leopard with VO? > > Thanks in advance, > > Kim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Flash, again
As a previously sighted person, i really liked developing for flash. ANd each version having gone through loads of enhancements, i think it would be nice for adobe to adopt an html5 approach that they will layer for the more design oriented punters. Cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Track Pad Choices
I have an 2009 MBP with the multitouch track pad. Love using it with VO as an additional accessibility tool. Is there any sort of device at all that can provide a multitouch track pad for desktop Macs? I think that a desktop keyboard with an integrated track pad would be great. Keyboard, track pad, and num pad, all in one unit. Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Duelling IMAPs?
It probably won't break anything. You just run the risk that a rule that works 90% of the time one way on one computer might work 10% differently on another. Maybe your PC program must search "all mail fields" when filtering, and the Mac will only filter on specific fields, so the rule won't always evaluate the same in every case. I use Exchange to solve this problem. All of the e-mail is sorted server-side. Plus, it holds contacts, calendar, and other info centrally. I can point Outlook on my PCs, Mail on the Mac, my phone, etc all at the same server. They automatically sync all of that info. It just sucks that Apple doesn't have real support for Exchange in mail. Mail only accesses Exchange through IMAP, not natively. So, if I want to change a server feature, like a mail sorting rule, I either must startup Outlook or connect to the OWA web page on the Exchange server to do it. I'm hoping that the new MS Office for Mac will have Outlook with full Exchange support. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:03 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Duelling IMAPs? Hello everyone, At present, I regularly use two different computers for checking my mail. One of these is my PC running Windows 7, using Thunderbird and the other is my Mac where I Have Snow Leopard installed. I use the mail client that is a part of SL. Right now, whenever I check mail on the PC, messages are automatically placed in folders that I have set up. Whenever I then go to the Mac, these messages are also in their respective folders. The problem arises, however, when any new messages arrive in my inbox while using the Mac. They are not placed in their designated folders. The reason for this is simple: I haven't set up any filters on the Mac side of the equation. I was recently told that it would be best to only have one computer do all the filtering. However, I am using my Mac more and more, and I'd like to be able to have the mail program on the Mac automatically place messages in the right folders. So my question is this: If I am really careful about setting up filters on the Mac, making sure that both systems use precisely the same filtering criteria, should there be any problems having the Mac do the message filtering when I use it and having the PC do the message filtering whenever I use it? I was told that tidbits.com would soon be releasing a Take Control publication for the Mac mail program. I am looking forward to purchasing it and hoping that it will address issues such as this one. My best to all, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: SSD?
Uh, actually, that's pretty cheap. Most of the 256GB drives cost about $800. and those are all the crappy and slow MLC type drives. The nicer SLC drives don't even come in capacities that high, I think. I've seen a 64GB SLC drive for $800, for example. So, if you see a 256GB MLC drive for $350, it is probably junk. No way anything has that capacity at that price with any type of performance. Its using flash, but they're probably stacking 10 values per cell or something crazy insane like that. Your write speed will crawl, and the rewrite cycles will be very short. You can get a slow knock-off brand 64GB MLC type drive for about $150. Speed won't be great on that, but it will still be immune to most mechanical failure. OCZ Vertex series SSDs are pretty good performance with a fair amount of storage for not a lot of money. However, their memory controllers aren't made well, and so they suck down a huge amount of power. So, they are a nice cheap solution for a desktop, but they'll run out your laptop's battery in a flash. 60GB for about $240. My favorite compromise are the Intel X25M drives. Low power draw, reasonable though not blindingly fast performance, Intel makes their own memory controller, and not too highly priced. You can get 80GB for about $300. Oh well. There are thousands of choices. Good luck. *smile* You can have fast performance, efficient use of power, or affordable. Choose two, or pay through the nose. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Yuma Antoine Decaux Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 10:15 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: SSD? Hi list, I read that SSD's increase disk read/write speeds by a 2 multiplier, and checked some of the options out there so that i can use the SSD for the SL OS, but found incredibly high prices. The best though that i found is the OCZ SDD 2.5 drive specially made for the mac with a speed of 249MBps/Seconds for read and 170MBPS/Seconds for write. Their 256GB model goes for about 399 which is way out of price. Does anyone know where i can find some smaller capacity drives with about the same R/W performance? THanks a bunch Yuma Decaux Light has no value without darkness Skype: shainobi1 blog: www.theblindsamurai.com twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 Tel: +85513623378 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
