Purchasing songs using ITune
Hi all: I am able to use ITune on my Macbook to purchase albums from ITune. What I haven't been able to figure out is how to use VO with ITune to purchase individual songs. After I select the artist I see the list of Albums available for purchase and download. How do you go about selecting the individual songs and finding the "buy" button. Thanks, Kamal --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Purchasing songs using ITune
Beneath the iTunes Store HTML area, you will find the Songs table. You can select the song you want to buy by interacting with the songs table and navigating to it. Then do VO-Shift-M and select the buy option. :) HTH. On Jul 12, 2009, at 9:13 AM, Kamal Haffar wrote: > > Hi all: > > I am able to use ITune on my Macbook to purchase albums from ITune. > What I haven't been able to figure out is how to use VO with ITune to > purchase individual songs. After I select the artist I see the list > of Albums available for purchase and download. How do you go about > selecting the individual songs and finding the "buy" button. Thanks, > > Kamal > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Purchasing songs using ITune
Thanks Josh, I know I need to put away my PC one of these days and stick with the MAC, I keep forgetting about the interacting thing, :-). Kamal --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Selecting multiples with VO
should work fine. One difference between this and Windows is that if you move up and down the selected region should always expand. Also there is the ability to add / remove from a list via vo-command- This will only work however if Keyboard focus is not tracking VoiceOver focus.This On Jul 5, 6:31 pm, "James & Nash" wrote: > Hi everyone, > > When I was last using VO with Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, it seemed that VO did > not select multiple items such as E Mails when using shift up and down > arrow. It was quite difficult therefore to know what was selected and so I > endedup deleting mail by mail. Has this changed or will this change under > Snow Leopard. > > Thank you > > Take care > > James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: an accessible mac application, MailSteward 8.2.3
I don't understand what the purpose of this program is. What additional functionality can I garner. Thanks, Jon On Jul 6, 2009, at 6:43 AM, Michael Babcock wrote: > > Please, read about this wonderful application to help with your email, > on my article: > an accessible mac application, MailSteward 8.2.3 > here: > http://gwfans.net/?p=522 > > Michael Babcock > GW Hosting, Your Dedicated Home On The Web > Phone: +1-888-272-3555, ext 54121 > email: michael.babc...@gwhosting.net > administrative e-mail: ad...@gwhosting.net > url: http://gwhosting.net > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: any telnet client compatible with voiceOver?
I believe that terminal will do this. BTW interesting nme, so close to mine. Where are you from? Jonathan Cohn On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Jonathan Chacón wrote: > > Hello, > > does anybody know a telnet client compatible with voiceOver? I need a > telnet client with ansi suport and VT100 > > > thanks and regards > Jonathan Chacón > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
is this program iphone friendly? Fw: The Orbitcast Daily Update
Orbitcast - Original Message - From: Orbitcast To: hanksmi...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: The Orbitcast Daily Update The Orbitcast Daily Update Sirius XM iPhone App beats 1 million downloads Posted: 06 Jul 2009 09:57 AM PDT Just 2 weeks after its debut, the Sirius XM iPhone App has surpassed more than 1 million downloads. But what continues to amaze me is that the App has remained as the #1 top free music App - having reached that status only 12 hours after its launch. All this, despite not featuring Howard Stern. "Reaching more than 1 million downloads so quickly is a strong testament to our world-class programming and Sirius XM's instant brand recognition," said Sirius XM Radio Inc. President and Chief Content Officer Scott Greenstein. "Our goal is to give people access to the best audio entertainment wherever they go with what we think is the best music and audio entertainment application available on the App Store." You know what would be a masterful move? To wait until the momentum begins to wane, and then issue an App update which would include additional features and the "contractual rights" issues with Stern would get magically fixed. ...or maybe to execute the above "updates" in phases, to maintain that momentum over an extended period of time. You are subscribed to email updates from Orbitcast To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now. Email delivery powered by Google Google Inc., 20 West Kinzie, Chicago IL USA 60610 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox and Flash
what is plugin called? - Original Message - From: "James & Nash" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:35 AM Subject: Firefox and Flash > > Hi Will, > > Once Fire Fox becomes accessible with VO you'll find that there is a > plugin > which helps blind users cope with the increasing prevelance of Flash on > the > web. > > Take care > > James > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacBook Pro
On the new MacBook Pro's however, there are 10 screws in the back cover of variying lengths. So you would need to know whch screw belonged to which hole. Jon On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Well you are not supposed to replace them yourself, but if you again > can obtain a replacement battery, you could replace it. I believe it > requires a certain type of screwdriver, but really unless you just > don't have an Apple service center near you, it isn't such a > problem. You can easily access the battery since you can remove the > bottom cover to replace the drive or ram yourself and the battery is > right there. The reason as I stated that Apple didn't want people > doing this is the way the battery is constructed. > > On Jul 5, 2009, at 1:51 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> Do you mean replacing the MBP battery? I am not sure they are user >> replaceable. At least not from what I understood from my >> conversation yesterday with someone at Apple >> - Original Message - >> From: Scott Howell >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 6:03 PM >> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro >> >> And to be honest the cost of replacing one is not as bad as one >> thinks really and the truth is you could replace it if you can get >> your hands on a replacement. I suspect I'll have a new machine >> before the battery gives up the ghost and if not, I'll be happy to >> replace it. >> On Jul 5, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Marshall Scott wrote: >> >>> I should add that I'm eagerly awaiting a brand spanking new 13 >>> inch Mac Book Pro. Hopefully, it will be here this week. I just >>> thought of something else that I don't like. The batteries in the >>> new MBP's are not user replaceable. However, this isn't such a >>> big problem because I don't travel much and therefore don't need >>> battery power very often. >>> Marsh >>> >>> On Jul 5, 2009, at 8:46 AM, James & Nash wrote: >>> Thanks Marshall - Original Message - From: Marshall Scott To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:43 PM Subject: Re: MacBook Pro Hi James, I would definitely recommend the MBP. We are using 5 of them at work and have had no problems as far as the OS X side of tthings. On the Windows side of things, the only problem is that the keys don't map quite right for JAWS. There are workarounds for this problem. Marsh On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:59 AM, James & Nash wrote: > Hi folks, > > Would people recommend the MacBook Pro as i am looking for an > Apple laptop so that I can have some portability. > > Thanks > > James > > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: FaceBook and VoiceOver
I don't think this will get to the list my postings seem to die. I too use the mobile version more then the standard version. I have found with group navigation turned on, and using a bit of the item list, I can find a grouping with all of the statuses from the FB home page. I do find that peoples names repeat 2-3 times, I wonder if turning off Image navigation would help with that. Best regards, Jon On Jul 7, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote: > > Hi there everyone, > > I am wondering if anyone has had luck using FaceBook and VoiceOver. > I use it quite a lot. Only I point Safari to the m.facebook.com site. > I can update my status, check my friends' status, read and write notes > and wall posts. But there are some things that either do not work on > the m.facebook.com site or aren't an obvious option. > > Example I follow our local Fox station WDAF Fox 4 out of Kansas City. > I also fallow Showbiz Tonight and Nancy Grace both of HLN network. > When any of these three post a story and get a heap of comments it > will show. that tey have x number of comments. Normally you can click > on that and read the comments then leave your own. But I'm finding if > there are more then like ten when you click the add comment button on > the status page, rather than taking you to the list of comments it > will take you to a page that just has the person's status, then leave > a comment, and a text box and all. If you click on the comments from > this page you are taken to a page not found thing. Same if you click > on someone's profile that is "just fans". > > However if you use the normal full featured fb page www.facebook.com > with a bit of stuborness on the part of VO you can somewhat get > through the pages. > > I seem to have a lot of trouble getting around the normal FB page as > VO seems to jump over whole bits of page. Just doesn't see them or > something. > What I want to know is if any of you use the normal FB site how do you > do it? How do you have VO set? I really would like to know because I > feel I am missing out on much that FB has to offer. > Thaks for taking the time to read and for any help you may have. > Best wishes > Jenny > > p.s. if anyone is interested I welcome new friends. my fb profile is > www.facebook.com/blueskyes or just search my email addy which is > blueskyes9112...@gmail.com > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
conversation settings in web based gmail with safari?
hello how do I set this up with safari and gmail using the gmail.com web interface? Hank --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
free recorders and low cost recorders for mac
hello is there any free ones or low cost ones I can also try out Hank --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
importing to the address book
Hi, all, I want to import numerous addresses into my address book. They are in a text file right now, and I tried to configure a new text file with the proper configuration that I learned by importing my original address book when I got my mac. Anyway, no matter what I do, the addresses will not import. I save the file I create as a csv file, but still no go. Any advice or instructions on this would be terrific! Thanks a bunch in advance!Marcy -- Wordy Mom Think positive, ...be positive, ...your cup is always half full. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
running apps off of external hard drives?
hello is this possible to do with mac apps? if so what needs to be done? Hank --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Turning off MacBook screens?
I believe there is a VoiceOver command to do this, but I don't have the command on hand. If I find the command, I'll email yawl back. Hth, Portia. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 9:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Turning off MacBook screens? Hi, James, Just continue with Screen Brightness and Screen Curtain together. I should write a CLI script for this. Regards, Alex, On 5-Jul-09, at 2:39 PM, James & Nash wrote: Hi folks, This might sound like an odd question, but as i cannot see the screen I was wondering if there was a way to turn it off? I know that you can turn the screen brightness right down and use the Screen Curtain which effectively does this which was what I used to do. But I was wondering if there was a solution via the Command Line. In Linux, this can be achieved by something like dpms off. This keeps the screen off until you either use dpms on our restart the pc. I have tried turning off my laptop screen in Windows, and JFW doesn't like it too much. As VO is built directly into the system i assume it doesn't use video intercept but instead gets its access info direct from the Mac OS X kernel? Thanks for any help that you can provide Thank you for taking the time to read this. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Selecting multiples with VO
VO-F6 does the reading of selected items quite well, just make sure your VO cursor is on the table you are doing the selections from. Jonathan On Jul 6, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: > The annoying thing about selecting multiple items in Leopard > currently is that when you shift up and down arrow, it says, "2 rows > selected, 3 rows selected, etc. It's really annoying as it doesn't > read what you are selecting, even when you've interacted with the > table. If anyone knows of another way to accomplish this, I'd love > to know, as I have found this to be quite annoying n both tiger and > leopard. > On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:31 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> When I was last using VO with Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, it seemed that >> VO did not select multiple items such as E Mails when using shift >> up and down arrow. It was quite difficult therefore to know what >> was selected and so I endedup deleting mail by mail. Has this >> changed or will this change under Snow Leopard. >> >> Thank you >> >> Take care >> >> James >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Hello from Jonathan Cohn / Virginia
Hello fellow Macintosh Users, I have sent 4 or 5 messages to Macvisionaries in reply to other peoples posts, and I have not seen them. I live in Northern Virginia, and have been using Macintoshes since the late 1980's. I have RP and have not needed full time voice until after Tiger came out. My current Macintosh is a e-Mac 17" running the latest Leopard and Safari. My goals over the next few weeks are: 1, Determine how jump mode works in VO. 2. Find better ways to read large e-mails. 3. Determine if it is just me that has issues with VO-F working with Safari 4 and HTML e-mail. 4. Find efficiencies in adding members to address book. 5. Get my Windows smart phone reloaded with the CodeFactory software and sync address book and calendar. 6 Get automatic move of NewsLine newspapers from e-mail to Victor reader. JOn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: daisy player for IPhone
It wouldn't surprise me that this is something Apple could ba planning in the not-too-distant future. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. On Jun 30, 2009, at 12:00 PM, william lomas wrote: hi wouldn't it be cool if we had a daisy player for the IPhone and IPod touch line of products, so that owners of these devices would just need one device? Will --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox and Flash
I use "clicktoflash" on my Safari and have found it good at speeding up several slow sites. ClicktoFlash intercepts Flash requests with its own plugin. It adds a menu item in the Safari menu to load the flash on the current / all pages. There is also a way to disable Flash scaled font rendering and just presenting HTML. The shortcut control-commmand-F will load the flash on the current page. There are options to also always load flash on some pages. Jon On Jul 7, 2009, at 12:27 PM, James & Nash wrote: > > I believe that the one for Firefox makes the Flash content into a > buton > which can be pressed. Not sure about the Safari one though. > - Original Message - > From: "william lomas" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:13 PM > Subject: Re: Firefox and Flash > > >> >> yeah but is there one which enables access to it? smile >> >> On 7 Jul 2009, at 14:50, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> There is a plugin for Safari that disables Flash. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> On 7-Jul-09, at 1:35 AM, James & Nash wrote: >>> Hi Will, Once Fire Fox becomes accessible with VO you'll find that there is a plugin which helps blind users cope with the increasing prevelance of Flash on the web. Take care James > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
usb or fire wire sound cards with opticle inputs?
hello does any know of any sound cards that will work with mac? Hank --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SPEECH PROGRAM FOR MAC?
Gene's instructions for turning on vo are correct. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2009, at 5:40 PM, "gene" wrote: > > Hi Arthor: Why do that when you have something called voice over > and I > think you turn it on with command f5 or hold down the fn key and do > command > f5 if you have a laptop/notebook. > Gene > - Original Message - > From: "Arthur Pirika" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:29 PM > Subject: SPEECH PROGRAM FOR MAC? > > >> >> HI, ALL. i CAME ACROSS A PROGRAM ON WINDOWS CALLED J TALK, THAT >> SIMPLY >> ECHOED LINES OF TEXT TO A SAPI SYNTH. i GUESS A PROGRAM LIKE THIS >> WOULD BE >> EASY TO WRITE ON THE MAC? YOU WOULD JUST HAVE A TEXT BOX WHERE YOU >> TYPE A >> MESSAGE TO BE SPOKEN, AND MAYBE SOME BUTTONS WITH PRE-DEFINED >> PHRASES SUCH >> AS YES, NO, THANK YOU, ETC. >> >> THANKS, >> aRTHUR. >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Selecting multiples with VO
This works as long as you don't have VO or Voice Over lock turned on. The only thing I found interesting is that if you do shift up 2 times and then shift down once, you will select 4 items the 2 above the current selection and one below. Another option is to use VO-Command-Space (which works on Wb Page lists too.) I think you have to have cursor tracking off for VO- Command-Space to work. If you have cursor tracking on and Keyboard Focus follows Voice Over focus then the selection will change in your list every time you move the VoiceOver cursor. Jonathan Cohn On Jul 5, 2009, at 6:31 PM, James & Nash wrote: > Hi everyone, > > When I was last using VO with Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, it seemed that > VO did not select multiple items such as E Mails when using shift > up and down arrow. It was quite difficult therefore to know what was > selected and so I endedup deleting mail by mail. Has this changed > or will this change under Snow Leopard. > > Thank you > > Take care > > James > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: virtual box 3.0
y can't run linux with boot camp if you can how?s - Original Message - From: "christos hux" To: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:29 AM Subject: virtual box 3.0 > > i downloaded & installed the newist version of virtual box which is > up to 3.0. It has had no voice over access improvment at all to the > program. It still just says unknown for all the areas inside the app. > so I would use either vmware fusion or apple bootcamp instead for > running windows, or linux on a intel based mac. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
VO and openoffice
Hi all, I.m an italian blind user who is using linux and used Windows screenreaders. Since last month I.m interested in the Mac Worls that seems to be fantastic. I haven't a Mac today, but I will buy it in the future. I would like to buy a Macbook Pro that seems to be the best choice. I would like to know how VO works with openoffice. Have you experienced in this way? Have you some guides to suggest me? Thanks all and sorry for my not very well English Bye from Italy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
recording with fision?
hello how do I record with fision? there is no record button what so ever I can't figure out the program Hank --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Introduction from Jonathan Cohn
Hi Jonathan, Sorry if I spelled your name wrong. To jump, press vO-J. Your vO keys are your control and option keys. Hth, Portia. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan C. Cohn Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:58 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Introduction from Jonathan Cohn Hello fellow Macintosh Users, I live in Northern Virginia, and have been using Macintoshes since the late 1980's. I have RP and have not needed full time voice until after Tiger came out. My current Macintosh is a e-Mac 17" running the latest Leopard and Safari. My goals over the next few weeks are: 1, Determine how jump mode works in VO. 2. Find better ways to read large e-mails. 3. Determine if it is just me that has issues with VO-F (Find) working with Safari 4 and HTML e-mail. (perhaps fixed now that Safari is 4.02) 4. Find efficiencies in adding members to address book. 5. Get my Windows smart phone reloaded with the CodeFactory software and sync address book and calendar. 6 Get automatic move ofNFB NewsLine newspapers from e-mail to Victor reader. JOn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
fusion question
hello am using latest version of fusion how do I get keys to work eg control alt then a letter? Hank --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: brf reader
Lol, I just wish there were Braille Displays under $800. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Cavendish Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 1:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: brf reader Dear Justin, No you aren't. I do miss hard copy braille too. In fact, I still use it. I love to handle a braille book! BW, Simon On 5 Jul 2009, at 03:27, Justin Harford wrote: > > Lol am I the only one on here who misses hardcopy braille? > > Justin > On Jul 4, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > >> >> SCott, >> >> Braille is very important to me too. There are some small displays >> which perfectly adequate. Blazie have some small displays of 18 to >> 20 >> cells and they are quite adequate. You use a button or bar to advance >> the display but you can still read very fast. I think braille >> displays >> are just a must for braille blind readers. I would not be without >> them. Brlnote has a 32 cell display but it is a kind of computer as >> well - a bit too bulky. I have sen advertised some smaller and >> lighter >> almost pocket size braille displays which I crave. I do hope that we >> will always have Braille displays for those of us who just have to >> feel the letters with their finger tips. I know I do. >> >> Best wishes, Simon >> On 4 Jul 2009, at 20:25, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> >>> You know Eric you got a good point. I want a braille display very >>> badly. I have a long commute, but headphones on the train is not an >>> option and I'd love to have a small and compact display I could use >>> to >>> do some reading. Actually f anyone knows of a good display that >>> would >>> of course work with Leopard and is reasonably priced (subjective I >>> know), please advise or at least let me know what you have used. I >>> might just dig into my pocket and stimulate some ones economy. :) A >>> really big question for me is I think there are some very small >>> displays out there and how do folks handle reading with these. I >>> think >>> they are wide enough to have maybe two or three words displayed at a >>> time? I assume you just learn to scroll right and read with one >>> hand? >>> I know it sounds like a silly question, but I have only read braille >>> books and the like, so a display is kind of foreign to me. >>> >>> tnx, >>> On Jul 4, 2009, at 2:04 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> No, you're dead on, smiles. I'm a lazy boy myself, and generally speaking I'm just as happy to be read to. There's something about braille though. Listening is fine, especially if you have a good book with a really great narrater. Reading with a speech engine is OK. It would let me take care of odd chores while I'm listening and still get access to that book that I can't find in audiobook format. I like reading a book in braille once in a while though, and I'm especially going to like it if I don't have to be tied down to my computer by a usb cable to do it. Reading complements listening and helps keep spelling and grammer skills sharp as well as just providing an alternative to listening to cheesie speech synthesizers. I can't stand the thought of paper braille but there's definitely an attraction for me in pulling out my braille connect and going to town on a book. I have to run around the city all the time for work and the transit system takes a while to get anywhere. So, I can plan to be on the road anywere from one hour to 2 or three to get where I need to be on any given day. Braille books are really handy for that. I can take my braille display and read my book and still pay strict attention to stop announcements and such. I can even stand on a bus or a train with my arm around a pole and the other hand scrubbing the display. Kind'a makes me feel like any other guy with a paperback or a news paper. Best, erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 4-Jul-09, at 1:15 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote: > > Ah Eric, I think I see your point? > It looks as if the CNIB has what the NLS calls web braille. You > just > want to grab the books that come in the web braille brf format and > read them in braille from your mac like people do when they put > them > on something like a braille note? That's fair enough, some people > like reading braille over listening to spoken word. Pointless or > not, > brf seems to be the file of choice by groups who provide > electronic > access to their libries for braille content. There's nothing wrong > with wanting to read a book in braille via a braille display, note > taker or whatever. > Having said this
alternitive email clients?
hello there any alternitive email clients that work good with vo if so what you recommend?? Hank --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Circus Ponies Notebook and Introduction
Hello, I just became a member of Macvisionaries, and have not yet reviewed any of the archives so my questions will wait. I have been a Macintosh user since the late 1980's, though I have only been using Speech since it came out in Tiger. I started using JAWS around the same time at work. I am now at the point where I can recognize a couple of icons, but no matter the contrast or scale I can't make out more then 3-4 characters on a my e-Mac 17 inch screen. I have been a regular reader of Tidbits for a half dozen years and they have reviewed Circus Ponies Notebook at least once along with some of the competing products. Their website is nice in that they have a listen button for all their articles that is read by the editor, and as such is even easier on the ears then Alex is. I hope to be an active member of this list. Happy Fourth to all my fellow Macintosh users in the United States, Jon Cohn Unemployed software Engineer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iPhone Demonstration
Does anyone know if the iPhone demonstration has been posted on ACB Radio yet? They were supposed to have a demonstration this evening, some time, but I was hoping a link would be added that would have that. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
controling audio via a surface controler?
hello I am wanting to use garage band and possibly logic what control surfaces work with those programs and are blind friendly? Hank --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: updarting on my mail problem
Hello, Because of the wide existance of SPAM and generally no security on the original mail protocols used on the Internet, most ISP's block access to their mail servers from outside their managed network. What this means is if you are on Cox and attempt to send or receive e-mail from RoadRunner owned servers you will probably have problems. A way that might avoid this is to ask about SSL enabled services, or perhaps even just try turning on SSL mode in the advanced mail account configuration. Jon On Jul 4, 2009, at 2:01 PM, matthew T dyer wrote: > > Hello everyone in mac world. > > I just got of the phone with apple reggarding my mail sending problem > with roadrunner. I think we are naring it down top a possible problem > in which the block messages going out and possible incoming as well. > If this iks the case, anyone here using rloadrunner know what I > should dpo to allow me to be able to send message? I am not using > my own internet connection as i do not have it.hanks again for > everyone who has been a bifg help. > > Matthew > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Mail automations for Victor Reader?
Hello, I want to be able to save the attachments I get from NFB NewsLine e- mail messages into a folder that I can then easily move to my Victor Reader. Obviously I could do this manually using the save attachment functionality, but I am interested in having this done via an applescript that runs from a rules file. Has anybody attempted this? thanks, Jonathan Cohn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hello from Jonathan Cohn / Virginia
Hi, John, your postings are arriving on list. We generally don't see our own literary work unless it is replied to. Something to do with google groups as I understand things. On 5-Jul-09, at 8:43 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > > Hello fellow Macintosh Users, > > I have sent 4 or 5 messages to Macvisionaries in reply to other > peoples posts, and I have not seen them. > > I live in Northern Virginia, and have been using Macintoshes since > the late 1980's. I have RP and have not needed full time voice until > after Tiger came out. My current Macintosh is a e-Mac 17" running the > latest Leopard and Safari. > > My goals over the next few weeks are: > > 1, Determine how jump mode works in VO. > 2. Find better ways to read large e-mails. > 3. Determine if it is just me that has issues with VO-F working with > Safari 4 and HTML e-mail. > 4. Find efficiencies in adding members to address book. > 5. Get my Windows smart phone reloaded with the CodeFactory software > and sync address book and calendar. > 6 Get automatic move of NewsLine newspapers from e-mail to Victor > reader. > > JOn > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: virtual box 3.0
I had a lot of trouble with virtual box, I choked out the money after savings and got vmware fusion. On 6-Jul-09, at 3:37 AM, hank smith wrote: > > y can't run linux with boot camp > if you can how?s > - Original Message - > From: "christos hux" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:29 AM > Subject: virtual box 3.0 > > >> >> i downloaded & installed the newist version of virtual box which is >> up to 3.0. It has had no voice over access improvment at all to the >> program. It still just says unknown for all the areas inside the app. >> so I would use either vmware fusion or apple bootcamp instead for >> running windows, or linux on a intel based mac. >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: alternitive email clients?
I've never felt a desire to seek out alternatives, as Apple Mail does everything I need it to. What features are you findingt hat you need that Mail does not provide? :) Josh de Lioncourt …my other mail provider is an owl… Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt Music: http://stage19music.com Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt On Jul 6, 2009, at 12:17 AM, hank smith wrote: > hello there any alternitive email clients that work good with vo > if so what you recommend?? > Hank > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: VO and openoffice
Hello; Welcome in advance. I know that once you get your mac book you will love it. Don't worry about your typing. Your message came through just fine. I don't use open office, but I hear it works well and is getting more accessible in each new version. I wish that i had bought a mac book pro for the larger hard drive options and more memory, but I have yet to run across anything i can't do with my regular mac book including managing my website and bologs such as my skills are. Welcome again and good luck, Max On Jul 5, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Roberto Burceni wrote: > > Hi all, I.m an italian blind user who is using linux and used Windows > screenreaders. Since last month I.m interested in the Mac Worls that > seems to be fantastic. > I haven't a Mac today, but I will buy it in the future. I would like > to > buy a Macbook Pro that seems to be the best choice. > I would like to know how VO works with openoffice. Have you > experienced > in this way? Have you some guides to suggest me? > Thanks all and sorry for my not very well English > Bye from Italy > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: updarting on my mail problem
Hello; I don't know if this is your specific problem or not, but I have an account with people pc. unless I'm signed into their network I have to put my whole email address in my mail program not just my screen name. They claim its a security measure. Once they told me about it, I've never had that problem sending mail again. I also found out that with people pc you don't just enter smtp you have to enter smtpauth. I'm sure you have probably already covered this with your isp, but just thought I'd ask. Good luck in solving your mail problem, Max On Jul 4, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > > Hello, > > Because of the wide existance of SPAM and generally no security on > the original mail protocols used on the Internet, most ISP's block > access to their mail servers from outside their managed network. What > this means is if you are on Cox and attempt to send or receive e-mail > from RoadRunner owned servers you will probably have problems. > > A way that might avoid this is to ask about SSL enabled services, or > perhaps even just try turning on SSL mode in the advanced mail > account configuration. > > Jon > > On Jul 4, 2009, at 2:01 PM, matthew T dyer wrote: > >> >> Hello everyone in mac world. >> >> I just got of the phone with apple reggarding my mail sending problem >> with roadrunner. I think we are naring it down top a possible >> problem >> in which the block messages going out and possible incoming as well. >> If this iks the case, anyone here using rloadrunner know what I >> should dpo to allow me to be able to send message? I am not using >> my own internet connection as i do not have it.hanks again for >> everyone who has been a bifg help. >> >> Matthew >> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacBook Pro
The long screws are along the rear of the case, where the screen/lid attaches. It is very easy to tell them apart because the long screws are really longer than the other screws holding the cover in place. On Jul 5, 2009, at 8:15 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > On the new MacBook Pro's however, there are 10 screws in the back > cover of variying lengths. So you would need to know whch screw > belonged to which hole. > > Jon > > On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Well you are not supposed to replace them yourself, but if you >> again can obtain a replacement battery, you could replace it. I >> believe it requires a certain type of screwdriver, but really >> unless you just don't have an Apple service center near you, it >> isn't such a problem. You can easily access the battery since you >> can remove the bottom cover to replace the drive or ram yourself >> and the battery is right there. The reason as I stated that Apple >> didn't want people doing this is the way the battery is constructed. >> >> On Jul 5, 2009, at 1:51 PM, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> Do you mean replacing the MBP battery? I am not sure they are user >>> replaceable. At least not from what I understood from my >>> conversation yesterday with someone at Apple >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Scott Howell >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 6:03 PM >>> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro >>> >>> And to be honest the cost of replacing one is not as bad as one >>> thinks really and the truth is you could replace it if you can get >>> your hands on a replacement. I suspect I'll have a new machine >>> before the battery gives up the ghost and if not, I'll be happy to >>> replace it. >>> On Jul 5, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Marshall Scott wrote: >>> I should add that I'm eagerly awaiting a brand spanking new 13 inch Mac Book Pro. Hopefully, it will be here this week. I just thought of something else that I don't like. The batteries in the new MBP's are not user replaceable. However, this isn't such a big problem because I don't travel much and therefore don't need battery power very often. Marsh On Jul 5, 2009, at 8:46 AM, James & Nash wrote: > Thanks Marshall > - Original Message - > From: Marshall Scott > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:43 PM > Subject: Re: MacBook Pro > > Hi James, > I would definitely recommend the MBP. We are using 5 of them at > work and have had no problems as far as the OS X side of > tthings. On the Windows side of things, the only problem is > that the keys don't map quite right for JAWS. There are > workarounds for this problem. > Marsh > > On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:59 AM, James & Nash wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> Would people recommend the MacBook Pro as i am looking for an >> Apple laptop so that I can have some portability. >> >> Thanks >> >> James >> >> >> > > > > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: recording with fision?
Hi Hank, weird as it is, from what I've heard, Fision is only an editor, and you can't record with it. On Jul 6, 2009, at 3:13 AM, hank smith wrote: > hello how do I record with fision? > there is no record button what so ever I can't figure out the program > Hank > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: VO and openoffice
hi, i am glad some italian folks get interested in voice over.(finalmente!) i live in italy as well and if you need some help you can always call me. i use calc , tables, of open office and i work well with it. what do you need to do with open office? rossy bologna Il giorno 05/lug/09, alle ore 22:04, Roberto Burceni ha scritto: > > Hi all, I.m an italian blind user who is using linux and used Windows > screenreaders. Since last month I.m interested in the Mac Worls that > seems to be fantastic. > I haven't a Mac today, but I will buy it in the future. I would like > to > buy a Macbook Pro that seems to be the best choice. > I would like to know how VO works with openoffice. Have you > experienced > in this way? Have you some guides to suggest me? > Thanks all and sorry for my not very well English > Bye from Italy > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail automations for Victor Reader?
hi I have a stopgap idea why don't you tray webnews on dmand it works with safary and you can save the emailed content to your streem card. there is't a mac newsline in your pokit client for the mac yet. i hope that this help's. Maurice nfbco newsline state local phonenumbers admistrater. On Jul 8, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > Hello, > > I want to be able to save the attachments I get from NFB NewsLine e- > mail messages into a folder that I can then easily move to my Victor > Reader. Obviously I could do this manually using the save attachment > functionality, but I am interested in having this done via an > applescript that runs from a rules file. > > Has anybody attempted this? > > thanks, > > Jonathan Cohn > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is this program iphone friendly? Fw: The Orbitcast Daily Update
Yes, the app is VO friendly on the iPhone but speech tends to crack-up at times. One hint is to hit the pause button in the upper left corner of the app to stop the current station if you wish to change to another one. From a pure performance perspective, I listened to this on the train here in Phoenix the other day where in general we have 5 bars the entire way. The app seems to have some problems. Music cracked and skipped a few times. I tried listening to AOL Radio on a different day and did not experience this. The point being that AOL Radio is free and you pay for XM. Sometimes free is better. On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:32 PM, hank smith wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: Orbitcast > To: hanksmi...@gmail.com > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 12:09 PM > Subject: The Orbitcast Daily Update > > The Orbitcast Daily Update > > Sirius XM iPhone App beats 1 million downloads > Posted: 06 Jul 2009 09:57 AM PDT > > Just 2 weeks after its debut, the Sirius XM iPhone App has surpassed > more than 1 million downloads. But what continues to amaze me is > that the App has remained as the #1 top free music App - having > reached that status only 12 hours after its launch. > > All this, despite not featuring Howard Stern. > "Reaching more than 1 million downloads so quickly is a strong > testament to our world-class programming and Sirius XM's instant > brand recognition," said Sirius XM Radio Inc. President and Chief > Content Officer Scott Greenstein. "Our goal is to give people access > to the best audio entertainment wherever they go with what we think > is the best music and audio entertainment application available on > the App Store." > > You know what would be a masterful move? To wait until the momentum > begins to wane, and then issue an App update which would include > additional features and the "contractual rights" issues with Stern > would get magically fixed. > > ...or maybe to execute the above "updates" in phases, to maintain > that momentum over an extended period of time. > > > > > > > You are subscribed to email updates from Orbitcast > To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now. Email > delivery powered by Google > Google Inc., 20 West Kinzie, Chicago IL USA 60610 > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: running apps off of external hard drives?
Hi, Hank, Yes, for most apps it can and you don't need anything special. Regards, Alex, On 26-Jun-09, at 10:27 PM, hank smith wrote: > hello is this possible to do with mac apps? if so what needs to be > done? > Hank > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Groups mode in web browsing
Hi, I have a question that I admit I may be able to figure out with some time and experimentation, but maybe some of you already know. What type of logic, interms of where things are located on a page, does groups mode use to organize the page? Meaning does it take some sort of inconsistent approach where it might take stuff from the middle of the page and put it first and stuff from the top and put it down further and so on, which is what I think it does. When it groups similar items though, does it take for certain into account that these similar items are located together at least? Groups mode appears that it may have some efficiency to it, but can one count on the context in groups mode of things that need to be located together such as a form element and its proper label that goes with it or might those things be taken from inconsistent random places and placed together? When I say placed together I am not necessarily saying that they are placed in a group, but just when you are navigating they are together in terms of vo-right arrow moving you along the order they are placed in. Jim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Groups mode in web browsing
Groups mode gives you a visual layout of the screen. Unlike DOM mode, it keeps items where they are meant to be. So the middle of the page is still the middle of the page. A sidebar is on the side. A navigation bar at the top will still be at the top. And so on. I much prefer Groups mode over DOM mode, because it typically allows faster browsing, once you understand how it works. As for grouping items, this is done based on how the page has been put together, and works very well, but it not fool-proof. Essentially, things are grouped logically together, if they were grouped together on the page. A paragraph, complete with all its inline links, for instance, would be a single group. Josh de Lioncourt …my other mail provider is an owl… Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt Music: http://stage19music.com Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:56 AM, James Mannion wrote: > > Hi, > I have a question that I admit I may be able to figure out with some > time and experimentation, but maybe some of you already know. What > type of logic, interms of where things are located on a page, does > groups mode use to organize the page? Meaning does it take some sort > of inconsistent approach where it might take stuff from the middle of > the page and put it first and stuff from the top and put it down > further and so on, which is what I think it does. When it groups > similar items though, does it take for certain into account that these > similar items are located together at least? Groups mode appears that > it may have some efficiency to it, but can one count on the context in > groups mode of things that need to be located together such as a form > element and its proper label that goes with it or might those things > be taken from inconsistent random places and placed together? When I > say placed together I am not necessarily saying that they are placed > in a group, but just when you are navigating they are together in > terms of vo-right arrow moving you along the order they are placed in. > > Jim > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: an accessible mac application, MailSteward 8.2.3
Hi Jon, It sounds like the application is a database. A little like an application based version of the GMail database. Take care - Original Message - From: "Jonathan C. Cohn" To: Cc: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by the blind" ; Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: an accessible mac application, MailSteward 8.2.3 > > I don't understand what the purpose of this program is. What > additional functionality can I garner. > > Thanks, > Jon > > On Jul 6, 2009, at 6:43 AM, Michael Babcock wrote: > >> >> Please, read about this wonderful application to help with your email, >> on my article: >> an accessible mac application, MailSteward 8.2.3 >> here: >> http://gwfans.net/?p=522 >> >> Michael Babcock >> GW Hosting, Your Dedicated Home On The Web >> Phone: +1-888-272-3555, ext 54121 >> email: michael.babc...@gwhosting.net >> administrative e-mail: ad...@gwhosting.net >> url: http://gwhosting.net >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: an accessible mac application, MailSteward 8.2.3
it archives your email messages, and if you don't want to use it, you don't have to, it was just something i found, sorry... On Jul 6, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > > I don't understand what the purpose of this program is. What > additional functionality can I garner. > > Thanks, > Jon > > On Jul 6, 2009, at 6:43 AM, Michael Babcock wrote: > >> >> Please, read about this wonderful application to help with your >> email, >> on my article: >> an accessible mac application, MailSteward 8.2.3 >> here: >> http://gwfans.net/?p=522 >> >> Michael Babcock >> GW Hosting, Your Dedicated Home On The Web >> Phone: +1-888-272-3555, ext 54121 >> email: michael.babc...@gwhosting.net >> administrative e-mail: ad...@gwhosting.net >> url: http://gwhosting.net >> >> >>> > > > > Michael Babcock GW Hosting, Your Dedicated Home On The Web Phone: +1-888-272-3555, ext 54121 email: michael.babc...@gwhosting.net administrative e-mail: ad...@gwhosting.net url: http://gwhosting.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi all, I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. I'm in the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the Mac world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in Windows for my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open Office works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and databases compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my Windows machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the Mac any time soon. As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may be made accessible in the future? Thanks, Russell --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi, Russel, The first answer is yes OOO is fully compliant with MS standard OS propriotary formats for 2003/4 and 2007/8 formats. For your second thing, what stops you from using the utils in OS X to bind to your work's servers and use your Mac there? Regards, Alex, On 12-Jul-09, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. > I'm in > the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the > Mac > world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in > Windows for > my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open > Office > works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and > databases > compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a > database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my > Windows > machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the > Mac any > time soon. > > As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may > be made > accessible in the future? > > Thanks, > > Russell > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
There are lots of alternatives to MS Office on the Mac. iWork works reasonably well and getting better. OpenOffice is pretty good. There's a great spreadsheet program that tons of Mac users use called "Tables" which is compatible with Excel formats. There are definitely quite a few choices, and your needs and personal preferences will really dictate which you use. Fortunately, you can try most or all of these before choosing to buy, and some are, of course, free. It is also quite common that, if you absolutely must have MS Office, for users to install Windows and a Windows screen reader into a virtual machine on their Mac. This allows you to run Mac and Windows applications side-by-side, which can be quite handy. I have found, though, that over time I have found Mac solutions for all my needs. Still, there's nothing stopping you from getting VMware Fusion and using it to install Windows/Jaws and just use the Mac for most things. Microsoft seems to have little or no interest in adhering to Apple's accessibility guidelines. Whether this is a conscious decision or not is debatable, but in either case, they are even more lax about accessibility in their Mac products than in their Windows one. It's quite ridiculous. Josh de Lioncourt …my other mail provider is an owl… Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt Music: http://stage19music.com Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. > I'm in > the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the > Mac > world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in > Windows for > my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open > Office > works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and > databases > compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a > database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my > Windows > machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the > Mac any > time soon. > > As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may > be made > accessible in the future? > > Thanks, > > Russell > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
making a signiture in apple mail
Hi everyone, Well I'm managing my google mail through apple mail now, uh. again. LOL Okay, this might seem very stupid not to know this, but how do you make a signiture in mail? I found the signitures section in the mail | Preffrences | toolbar. But I don't very well see where you write what you want the signiture to be. Thanks for any help. This list is awesome. Jenny --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: an accessible mac application, MailSteward 8.2.3
It sounds like a great aplication. When I get my new Mac, I'll give it a go. - Original Message - From: "Michael Babcock" To: Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:13 PM Subject: Re: an accessible mac application, MailSteward 8.2.3 > > it archives your email messages, and if you don't want to use it, you > don't have to, it was just something i found, sorry... > On Jul 6, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > >> >> I don't understand what the purpose of this program is. What >> additional functionality can I garner. >> >> Thanks, >> Jon >> >> On Jul 6, 2009, at 6:43 AM, Michael Babcock wrote: >> >>> >>> Please, read about this wonderful application to help with your >>> email, >>> on my article: >>> an accessible mac application, MailSteward 8.2.3 >>> here: >>> http://gwfans.net/?p=522 >>> >>> Michael Babcock >>> GW Hosting, Your Dedicated Home On The Web >>> Phone: +1-888-272-3555, ext 54121 >>> email: michael.babc...@gwhosting.net >>> administrative e-mail: ad...@gwhosting.net >>> url: http://gwhosting.net >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > Michael Babcock > GW Hosting, Your Dedicated Home On The Web > Phone: +1-888-272-3555, ext 54121 > email: michael.babc...@gwhosting.net > administrative e-mail: ad...@gwhosting.net > url: http://gwhosting.net > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: recording with fision?
Hi. Fission was designed as a companion program to audio hijack pro. So you would need to use AHP or some other program to actually do the recording. Darcy On 6-Jul-09, at 3:13 AM, hank smith wrote: > hello how do I record with fision? > there is no record button what so ever I can't figure out the program > Hank > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi Alex, Thanks for that. As I said, I don't yet have a Mac, but was thinking of getting an iMac, which of course I wouldn't be able to take to work with me. A MacBook is an option though. Thanks again, Russell -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility Hi, Russel, The first answer is yes OOO is fully compliant with MS standard OS propriotary formats for 2003/4 and 2007/8 formats. For your second thing, what stops you from using the utils in OS X to bind to your work's servers and use your Mac there? Regards, Alex, On 12-Jul-09, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. > I'm in > the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the > Mac > world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in > Windows for > my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open > Office > works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and > databases > compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a > database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my > Windows > machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the > Mac any > time soon. > > As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may > be made > accessible in the future? > > Thanks, > > Russell > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi Josh, Is iWork a suite of apps like MS Office? Thanks, Russell From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility There are lots of alternatives to MS Office on the Mac. iWork works reasonably well and getting better. OpenOffice is pretty good. There's a great spreadsheet program that tons of Mac users use called "Tables" which is compatible with Excel formats. There are definitely quite a few choices, and your needs and personal preferences will really dictate which you use. Fortunately, you can try most or all of these before choosing to buy, and some are, of course, free. It is also quite common that, if you absolutely must have MS Office, for users to install Windows and a Windows screen reader into a virtual machine on their Mac. This allows you to run Mac and Windows applications side-by-side, which can be quite handy. I have found, though, that over time I have found Mac solutions for all my needs. Still, there's nothing stopping you from getting VMware Fusion and using it to install Windows/Jaws and just use the Mac for most things. Microsoft seems to have little or no interest in adhering to Apple's accessibility guidelines. Whether this is a conscious decision or not is debatable, but in either case, they are even more lax about accessibility in their Mac products than in their Windows one. It's quite ridiculous. Josh de Lioncourt .my other mail provider is an owl. Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt Music: http://stage19music.com Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: Hi all, I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. I'm in the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the Mac world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in Windows for my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open Office works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and databases compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my Windows machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the Mac any time soon. As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may be made accessible in the future? Thanks, Russell --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: VO and openoffice
Hi all and thanks for your answers... I'm going to buy in august a macbook pro and use it to work. I would like to know about Openoffice Writer if you can change character fonts sytle an size and formatting text. I tried this week voiceover for some hours and I have a very good impression on it. Regards! On 12/07/2009 19:28, Koumanova Rostislava wrote: > hi, > > i am glad some italian folks get interested in voice over.(finalmente!) > i live in italy as well and if you need some help you can always call > me. > i use calc , tables, of open office and i work well with it. what do > you need to do with open office? > rossy > bologna > > > Il giorno 05/lug/09, alle ore 22:04, Roberto Burceni ha scritto: > > >> Hi all, I.m an italian blind user who is using linux and used Windows >> screenreaders. Since last month I.m interested in the Mac Worls that >> seems to be fantastic. >> I haven't a Mac today, but I will buy it in the future. I would like >> to >> buy a Macbook Pro that seems to be the best choice. >> I would like to know how VO works with openoffice. Have you >> experienced >> in this way? Have you some guides to suggest me? >> Thanks all and sorry for my not very well English >> Bye from Italy >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Now is an Imac a bigger version than the macbook? May and Wynter with a y - Original Message - From: "Russell Solowoniuk" To: Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:56 PM Subject: RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > Hi Alex, > > Thanks for that. As I said, I don't yet have a Mac, but was thinking of > getting an iMac, which of course I wouldn't be able to take to work with > me. > A MacBook is an option though. > > Thanks again, > > Russell > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:38 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > > Hi, > Russel, > > The first answer is yes OOO is fully compliant with MS standard OS > propriotary formats for 2003/4 and 2007/8 formats. > > For your second thing, what stops you from using the utils in OS X to > bind to your work's servers and use your Mac there? > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 12-Jul-09, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. >> I'm in >> the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the >> Mac >> world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in >> Windows for >> my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open >> Office >> works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and >> databases >> compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a >> database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my >> Windows >> machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the >> Mac any >> time soon. >> >> As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may >> be made >> accessible in the future? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Russell >> >> >> > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Radio Gaga
Hi all. Has anyone had any luck with Radio Gaga on the Mac? This is a program that allows you to listen to and record radio streams. Apparently you can record multiple streams simultaneously. When I run the program however, none of the VO commands work while inside the radio gaga window. So I'm not sure if the whole program is like that, or just the registration screen. Sound Studio is like this. The program itself is fine, but the registration screen is inaccessible. You can find Radio Gaga at the following URL. http://www.gagafactory.com/radiogaga/index.html Darcy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: VO and openoffice
On 12/07/2009 18:56, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: > Hello; Welcome in advance. I know that once you get your mac book > you will love it. Don't worry about your typing. Your message came > through just fine. I don't use open office, but I hear it works well > and is getting more accessible in each new version. I wish that i had > bought a mac book pro for the larger hard drive options and more > memory, but I have yet to run across anything i can't do with my > regular mac book including managing my website and bologs such as my > skills are. Welcome again and good luck, Max > On Jul 5, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Roberto Burceni wrote: > > >> Hi all, I.m an italian blind user who is using linux and used Windows >> screenreaders. Since last month I.m interested in the Mac Worls that >> seems to be fantastic. >> I haven't a Mac today, but I will buy it in the future. I would like >> to >> buy a Macbook Pro that seems to be the best choice. >> I would like to know how VO works with openoffice. Have you >> experienced >> in this way? Have you some guides to suggest me? >> Thanks all and sorry for my not very well English >> Bye from Italy >> >> >>> > > > > Thank you for answering. What do you use to write documents in mac? Bye --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Yes, iWork is an office suite which Apple is actively working on improving access in. It is quite good now, and has been improving. It includes word processing, spreadsheet, and presentation software. Certain aspects of it are a bit cumbersome, particularly with spreadsheets, but it does work reasonably well. As I stated previously, there are lots of options depending on what you need and your personal taste. Josh de Lioncourt …my other mail provider is an owl… Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt Music: http://stage19music.com Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt On Jul 12, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > Hi Josh, > > Is iWork a suite of apps like MS Office? > > Thanks, > > Russell > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > ] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:16 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > > There are lots of alternatives to MS Office on the Mac. iWork works > reasonably well and getting better. OpenOffice is pretty good. > There's a great spreadsheet program that tons of Mac users use > called "Tables" which is compatible with Excel formats. There are > definitely quite a few choices, and your needs and personal > preferences will really dictate which you use. Fortunately, you can > try most or all of these before choosing to buy, and some are, of > course, free. > > It is also quite common that, if you absolutely must have MS Office, > for users to install Windows and a Windows screen reader into a > virtual machine on their Mac. This allows you to run Mac and Windows > applications side-by-side, which can be quite handy. I have found, > though, that over time I have found Mac solutions for all my needs. > Still, there's nothing stopping you from getting VMware Fusion and > using it to install Windows/Jaws and just use the Mac for most things. > > Microsoft seems to have little or no interest in adhering to Apple's > accessibility guidelines. Whether this is a conscious decision or > not is debatable, but in either case, they are even more lax about > accessibility in their Mac products than in their Windows one. It's > quite ridiculous. > > > Josh de Lioncourt > …my other mail provider is an owl… > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt > Music: http://stage19music.com > Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com > Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com > GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt > > On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. > I'm in > the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the > Mac > world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in > Windows for > my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open > Office > works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and > databases > compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a > database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my > Windows > machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the > Mac any > time soon. > > As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may > be made > accessible in the future? > > Thanks, > > Russell > > > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi May, No, the iMac is a desktop...well, sort of. It's actually quite cool...there's no tower. Everything is built into the monitor, so all you get is the monitor and keyboard. The CD/DVD drive, CPU, sound and video cards, RAM is all built into the monitor. A friend has one...she's not visually impaired though, and it's really nice. Thanks, Russell -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of May and Wynter Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:13 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility Now is an Imac a bigger version than the macbook? May and Wynter with a y - Original Message - From: "Russell Solowoniuk" To: Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:56 PM Subject: RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > Hi Alex, > > Thanks for that. As I said, I don't yet have a Mac, but was thinking of > getting an iMac, which of course I wouldn't be able to take to work with > me. > A MacBook is an option though. > > Thanks again, > > Russell > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:38 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > > Hi, > Russel, > > The first answer is yes OOO is fully compliant with MS standard OS > propriotary formats for 2003/4 and 2007/8 formats. > > For your second thing, what stops you from using the utils in OS X to > bind to your work's servers and use your Mac there? > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 12-Jul-09, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. >> I'm in >> the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the >> Mac >> world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in >> Windows for >> my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open >> Office >> works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and >> databases >> compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a >> database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my >> Windows >> machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the >> Mac any >> time soon. >> >> As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may >> be made >> accessible in the future? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Russell >> >> >> > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: any telnet client compatible with voiceOver?
-Mensaje original- De: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] En nombre de Jonathan C. Cohn Enviado el: lunes, 06 de julio de 2009 19:46 Para: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Asunto: Re: any telnet client compatible with voiceOver? >I believe that terminal will do this. Well, telnet in terminal can't show special ansi characters like ansi color text or similar. I'm searching a telnet client yet >BTW interesting nme, so close to mine. Where are you from? Yes, is interesting I'm from Spain. I'm accessibility, usability and new tecnologies consultant Regards Jonathan Chacón --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers.
Hi Mae, The iMac is the apple version of a full featured desktop computer. They have another "desktop" that lots of people use as a home entertainment hub called the Mac Mini. It's all the features of a CPU but you provide things like speakers, keyboard/mouse monitor. Then there are the notebook computers the macbook, macbook pro which has more power and some different options than the macbook and the macbook air which is a smaller lighter sort of notebook, I think they call them sub-notebooks? But not as small as these netbook things that seem to be all the rage. HTH Jenny Olathe, Kansas Usa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Ah, that's pretty cool. I never heard of anything like that. Thanks for the description. May and Wynter with a y - Original Message - From: "Russell Solowoniuk" To: Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:29 PM Subject: RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > Hi May, > > No, the iMac is a desktop...well, sort of. It's actually quite > cool...there's no tower. Everything is built into the monitor, so all you > get is the monitor and keyboard. The CD/DVD drive, CPU, sound and video > cards, RAM is all built into the monitor. A friend has one...she's not > visually impaired though, and it's really nice. > > Thanks, > > Russell > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of May and Wynter > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:13 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > > Now is an Imac a bigger version than the macbook? > > May and Wynter with a y > - Original Message - > From: "Russell Solowoniuk" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:56 PM > Subject: RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > >> >> Hi Alex, >> >> Thanks for that. As I said, I don't yet have a Mac, but was thinking of >> getting an iMac, which of course I wouldn't be able to take to work with >> me. >> A MacBook is an option though. >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Russell >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen >> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:38 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility >> >> >> Hi, >> Russel, >> >> The first answer is yes OOO is fully compliant with MS standard OS >> propriotary formats for 2003/4 and 2007/8 formats. >> >> For your second thing, what stops you from using the utils in OS X to >> bind to your work's servers and use your Mac there? >> >> Regards, >> Alex, >> >> >> On 12-Jul-09, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. >>> I'm in >>> the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the >>> Mac >>> world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in >>> Windows for >>> my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open >>> Office >>> works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and >>> databases >>> compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I create a >>> database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my >>> Windows >>> machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the >>> Mac any >>> time soon. >>> >>> As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may >>> be made >>> accessible in the future? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Russell >>> >>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers.
Ah ok. One more question, what is the difference between the macbook pro and the air? May and Wynter with a y - Original Message - From: "Jenny Kennedy (Howard)" To: Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers. > > Hi Mae, > > The iMac is the apple version of a full featured desktop computer. > They have another "desktop" that lots of people use as a home > entertainment hub called the Mac Mini. It's all the features of a CPU > but you provide things like speakers, keyboard/mouse monitor. Then > there are the notebook computers the macbook, macbook pro which has > more power and some different options than the macbook and the macbook > air which is a smaller lighter sort of notebook, I think they call > them sub-notebooks? But not as small as these netbook things that seem > to be all the rage. > HTH > Jenny > Olathe, Kansas Usa > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers.
Hi Mae, The really short answer is the MBA hasn't any sort of optical drive. Not quite sure how that works other than you're supposed to be able to network with another computer, say your desktop that has such a drive, CD/DVD drive in other words and somehow use that as, I'm guessing an external drive. Seems kinda strange to me. *shrugs* The MacBook Pro has a bit more power, larger built in HD and some other things for well. LOL uber techy folks. Anyone else who can jump in with a better explanation, feel free. HTH Jenny Olathe, Kansas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers.
And don't forget the mother of all Macs, the Mac Pro. Of course unless you have a real reason for a Mac Pro, you won't need one since that is more horsepower than the average user would need. You can get those babies with quad Duo Core processors, and enough ram to choke a horse. Yeah, its like a server, which Apple of course has those as well, but I forget what they are called. On Jul 12, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: > > Hi Mae, > > The iMac is the apple version of a full featured desktop computer. > They have another "desktop" that lots of people use as a home > entertainment hub called the Mac Mini. It's all the features of a CPU > but you provide things like speakers, keyboard/mouse monitor. Then > there are the notebook computers the macbook, macbook pro which has > more power and some different options than the macbook and the macbook > air which is a smaller lighter sort of notebook, I think they call > them sub-notebooks? But not as small as these netbook things that seem > to be all the rage. > HTH > Jenny > Olathe, Kansas Usa > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers.
I can't recall all of the specs and I'd encourage you to go to the Apple site at http://www.apple.com and read up on all the various models. I will tell you that in my opinion, the MacBook Air is a great machine for carrying to and from the office, school, or as a second machine. It is very light, very thin, and lacks a lot of what the larger MacBook and MacBook Pros have. That is correct, there is no CD/ DVD drive, you can however access one from the network on another machine if you choose with some software. They do have a full-size keyboard and are capable of handling a fair number of tasks, but heavy audio processing is not something you'd want to really do with the machine or probably running VmWare on it might not be the best option, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it can't be done. I myself gave my iMac to my wife since she would much prefer the 20-inch screen, but I opted to replace that machine with something equivalent, so I got a MacBook Pro. I ended up with the 15-inch model because I could not have gotten the cpu speed or other options I wanted since I was looking for a direct replacement for my iMac. All this to say if you decide to purchase a Mac, consider carefully all the things you will want to do. There is nothing worse than plunking down a chunk of change to find you didn't make the best choice. Good luck, p to an 80Gb or 160Gb drive. There is only a usb connector and an audio out from On Jul 12, 2009, at 4:40 PM, May and Wynter wrote: > > Ah ok. One more question, what is the difference between the > macbook pro > and the air? > > May and Wynter with a y > - Original Message - > From: "Jenny Kennedy (Howard)" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:38 PM > Subject: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers. > > >> >> Hi Mae, >> >> The iMac is the apple version of a full featured desktop computer. >> They have another "desktop" that lots of people use as a home >> entertainment hub called the Mac Mini. It's all the features of a CPU >> but you provide things like speakers, keyboard/mouse monitor. Then >> there are the notebook computers the macbook, macbook pro which has >> more power and some different options than the macbook and the >> macbook >> air which is a smaller lighter sort of notebook, I think they call >> them sub-notebooks? But not as small as these netbook things that >> seem >> to be all the rage. >> HTH >> Jenny >> Olathe, Kansas Usa >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers.
Hi, The difference is about $400 da dump da [drum sound effect]. I would not recommend the air to any user who uses it as their primary computer. The air is a fantastic piece of engineering, but it lacks a lot of key features that most people would want on a computer. Specifically, it's ports are limited to a single USB port, it has no hard wired ethernet port, no optical drive. It's also underpowered and the HD is small. In my opinion, the new Apple 13" MacBook is the best bang for the buck Mac out there. So, unless you want an extremely light, portable laptop, I'd avoid the air. The MacBook is less expensive and more powerful. The only disadvantage is it's weight, and even that's not that bad relative to the air. --Scott >Ah ok. One more question, what is the difference between the macbook pro >and the air? > >May and Wynter with a y >- Original Message - >From: "Jenny Kennedy (Howard)" >To: >Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:38 PM >Subject: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers. > > >> >> Hi Mae, >> >> The iMac is the apple version of a full featured desktop computer. >> They have another "desktop" that lots of people use as a home >> entertainment hub called the Mac Mini. It's all the features of a CPU >> but you provide things like speakers, keyboard/mouse monitor. Then >> there are the notebook computers the macbook, macbook pro which has >> more power and some different options than the macbook and the macbook >> air which is a smaller lighter sort of notebook, I think they call >> them sub-notebooks? But not as small as these netbook things that seem >> to be all the rage. >> HTH >> Jenny >> Olathe, Kansas Usa >> >> > > > > -- --Scott --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Jump scroll mode.
I have gotten a question about this, so I am elaborating. If one types VO-shift-J then one enters jump scroll mode. I discovered via the VoiceOver help that apparently the only options are then VO- arrow: to move to the visible edge of a region or VO-Shift-Arrow to move tto the edge of a region. I am not quite sure what the difference between this and VO with PageUp or Page Down functions. But it does seem a bit cumbersome and certainly does not give any feedback. If anybody has a useful example of how to use this mode I would be interested in knowing your experience. Jon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: importing to the address book
If these are coming from a Microsoft box, I suggest you use Plaxo as an itermediary. You can load them into Plaxo on their web page, and then get the Plaxo agent for macintosh computers that will automatically sync your on-line contacts in Plaxo with your address book on your Macintosh. Write off list if you want more details. Jonathan Cohn jon.c.c...@gail.com On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > > Hi, all, > I want to import numerous addresses into my address book. They are in > a text file right now, and I tried to configure a new text file with > the proper configuration that I learned by importing my original > address book when I got my mac. Anyway, no matter what I do, the > addresses will not import. I save the file I create as a csv file, > but still no go. Any advice or instructions on this would be > terrific! Thanks a bunch in advance!Marcy > -- > Wordy Mom > Think positive, > ...be positive, > ...your cup is always half full. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility
Hi, May: An iMac is a altra thin desktop. Regards, Alex, On 12-Jul-09, at 1:13 PM, May and Wynter wrote: > > Now is an Imac a bigger version than the macbook? > > May and Wynter with a y > - Original Message - > From: "Russell Solowoniuk" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:56 PM > Subject: RE: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility > > >> >> Hi Alex, >> >> Thanks for that. As I said, I don't yet have a Mac, but was >> thinking of >> getting an iMac, which of course I wouldn't be able to take to work >> with >> me. >> A MacBook is an option though. >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Russell >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen >> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:38 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: MS Office - any plans for Mac accessibility >> >> >> Hi, >> Russel, >> >> The first answer is yes OOO is fully compliant with MS standard OS >> propriotary formats for 2003/4 and 2007/8 formats. >> >> For your second thing, what stops you from using the utils in OS X to >> bind to your work's servers and use your Mac there? >> >> Regards, >> Alex, >> >> >> On 12-Jul-09, at 11:30 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I just joined this list. I currently am a Windows and Jaws user. >>> I'm in >>> the market for a new computer soon and am considering moving to the >>> Mac >>> world, but have a few reservations. I use Excel and Access in >>> Windows for >>> my job and need access to these types of apps. I was told that Open >>> Office >>> works with VO on the Mac, but are Open Office spreadsheets and >>> databases >>> compatible with MS Office in Windows? What I mean is, can I >>> create a >>> database in Open Office and then take it to work and open it on my >>> Windows >>> machine in MS Access? There's no chance of my work switching to the >>> Mac any >>> time soon. >>> >>> As far as MS Office for the Mac, is there any chance that this may >>> be made >>> accessible in the future? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Russell >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers.
Ah ok. Most likely for all the things I do, the macbook pro would be the way to go then. May and Wynter with a y - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:12 PM Subject: Re: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers. > > I can't recall all of the specs and I'd encourage you to go to the > Apple site at http://www.apple.com and read up on all the various > models. I will tell you that in my opinion, the MacBook Air is a great > machine for carrying to and from the office, school, or as a second > machine. It is very light, very thin, and lacks a lot of what the > larger MacBook and MacBook Pros have. That is correct, there is no CD/ > DVD drive, you can however access one from the network on another > machine if you choose with some software. They do have a full-size > keyboard and are capable of handling a fair number of tasks, but heavy > audio processing is not something you'd want to really do with the > machine or probably running VmWare on it might not be the best option, > but I wouldn't go so far as to say it can't be done. I myself gave my > iMac to my wife since she would much prefer the 20-inch screen, but I > opted to replace that machine with something equivalent, so I got a > MacBook Pro. I ended up with the 15-inch model because I could not > have gotten the cpu speed or other options I wanted since I was > looking for a direct replacement for my iMac. > All this to say if you decide to purchase a Mac, consider carefully > all the things you will want to do. There is nothing worse than > plunking down a chunk of change to find you didn't make the best choice. > > Good luck, > p to an 80Gb or 160Gb drive. There is only a usb connector and an > audio out from > > On Jul 12, 2009, at 4:40 PM, May and Wynter wrote: > >> >> Ah ok. One more question, what is the difference between the >> macbook pro >> and the air? >> >> May and Wynter with a y >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jenny Kennedy (Howard)" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:38 PM >> Subject: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers. >> >> >>> >>> Hi Mae, >>> >>> The iMac is the apple version of a full featured desktop computer. >>> They have another "desktop" that lots of people use as a home >>> entertainment hub called the Mac Mini. It's all the features of a CPU >>> but you provide things like speakers, keyboard/mouse monitor. Then >>> there are the notebook computers the macbook, macbook pro which has >>> more power and some different options than the macbook and the >>> macbook >>> air which is a smaller lighter sort of notebook, I think they call >>> them sub-notebooks? But not as small as these netbook things that >>> seem >>> to be all the rage. >>> HTH >>> Jenny >>> Olathe, Kansas Usa >>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
New list was Re: New list mod -was- Re: Moderator note Re: macbook
Hi, Lists, As well, Olivia is helping with apple-socialize list moderation. Isn't that right, Olivia? Feel free to post to us at: apple-socialize-subscr...@googlegroups.com There is where all the OT stuff can go if it has no other home, :) . Regards, Alex, Regards, Alex, On 12-Jul-09, at 4:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > Ah, was wondering when Josh was going to say something here. > > To the list, Josh is now assisting with moderation, so please do > give him a warm welcome and show him some list love / respect, K?… > > L8rs! > > Cara :) > --- > Follow me on Twitter! > > https://twitter.com/ModelCara > > View my Online Portfolio at: > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > On Jul 12, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: > > > Sorry guys, but this topic is totally OT. For discussion of MacBooks > and other Apple related products, I'd suggest the MacVisionaries > group, linked below. :) I'm as excited as anyone, probabl more > excited than most, to see that the iPhone is generating interest in > the Mac as well, but let's try to keep this group focused. :) > > You can join MacVisionaries at: > > http://googlegroups.com/group/macvisionaries/ > > > Josh de Lioncourt > …my other mail provider is an owl… > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt > Music: http://stage19music.com > Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com > Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com > GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt > > On Jul 12, 2009, at 8:17 AM, May and Wynter wrote: > >> >> Thanks everyone for all your answers and support of macbooks, smile. >> >> How heavy are the macbooks? I don't want another computer that's >> heavy to >> carry around like a laptop. >> >> May and Wynter with a y >> - Original Message - >> From: "allseed" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:10 AM >> Subject: Re: macbook >> >> >>> >>> You can also use the free bootcamp that comes with your mac to >>> install >>> windows, it has to be an original windows not a windows from another >>> pc and when you use bootcamp, you boot into either windows or mac os >>> and in each instance, you have the entire hardware minus the hd >>> partition for the other os to work with. >>> >>> On Jul 12, 2009, at 4:38 AM, May and Wynter wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, that helps too. Just knowing I have that option in case of >>> some reason I might need it. >>> >>> How much memory is needed to have both on the macbook? >>> >>> May and Wynter with a y >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Jan Stirbens >>> To: viph...@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:42 AM >>> Subject: Re: macbook >>> >>> Hello May, >>> >>> I have a mac book and have windows XP installed it using a program >>> called vmaware fussion. I also have Kurzweil installed in windows >>> XP. >>> >>> Jan >>> - Original Message - >>> From: May and Wynter >>> To: viph...@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:23 AM >>> Subject: macbook >>> >>> Hi, I can't remember if it was this list or another of the many >>> list I >>> am on, lol. But did someone here mention that they have windows >>> also >>> on their macbook? >>> >>> The reason I am asking is because of the scanner software. >>> >>> I have to make my decision on which route I'm going to go on >>> Tuesday. >>> I'd like to try the macbook but I still need a machine that I can >>> have >>> windows on for scanning since I haven't heard anything about macs >>> having scanner software. Smile, I don't think I can get away with >>> having the government buy me two different computers. >>> >>> You can write me off list, thanks. >>> >>> May and Wynter, VA7MAI >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers.
Hi, May: MBP 13 inch would be great, but you can call me on my organizations phone number to discuss this further if you wish. Regards, Alex, On 12-Jul-09, at 4:06 PM, May and Wynter wrote: > > Ah ok. Most likely for all the things I do, the macbook pro would be > the way > to go then. > > May and Wynter with a y > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Howell" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:12 PM > Subject: Re: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers. > > >> >> I can't recall all of the specs and I'd encourage you to go to the >> Apple site at http://www.apple.com and read up on all the various >> models. I will tell you that in my opinion, the MacBook Air is a >> great >> machine for carrying to and from the office, school, or as a second >> machine. It is very light, very thin, and lacks a lot of what the >> larger MacBook and MacBook Pros have. That is correct, there is no >> CD/ >> DVD drive, you can however access one from the network on another >> machine if you choose with some software. They do have a full-size >> keyboard and are capable of handling a fair number of tasks, but >> heavy >> audio processing is not something you'd want to really do with the >> machine or probably running VmWare on it might not be the best >> option, >> but I wouldn't go so far as to say it can't be done. I myself gave my >> iMac to my wife since she would much prefer the 20-inch screen, but I >> opted to replace that machine with something equivalent, so I got a >> MacBook Pro. I ended up with the 15-inch model because I could not >> have gotten the cpu speed or other options I wanted since I was >> looking for a direct replacement for my iMac. >> All this to say if you decide to purchase a Mac, consider carefully >> all the things you will want to do. There is nothing worse than >> plunking down a chunk of change to find you didn't make the best >> choice. >> >> Good luck, >> p to an 80Gb or 160Gb drive. There is only a usb connector and an >> audio out from >> >> On Jul 12, 2009, at 4:40 PM, May and Wynter wrote: >> >>> >>> Ah ok. One more question, what is the difference between the >>> macbook pro >>> and the air? >>> >>> May and Wynter with a y >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jenny Kennedy (Howard)" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:38 PM >>> Subject: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers. >>> >>> Hi Mae, The iMac is the apple version of a full featured desktop computer. They have another "desktop" that lots of people use as a home entertainment hub called the Mac Mini. It's all the features of a CPU but you provide things like speakers, keyboard/mouse monitor. Then there are the notebook computers the macbook, macbook pro which has more power and some different options than the macbook and the macbook air which is a smaller lighter sort of notebook, I think they call them sub-notebooks? But not as small as these netbook things that seem to be all the rage. HTH Jenny Olathe, Kansas Usa > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers.
hehehehe, would love to, but you will have to send me the info first, smile. Thanks. May and Wynter with a y - Original Message - From: "Alex Jurgensen" To: Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers. > > Hi, > May: > > MBP 13 inch would be great, but you can call me on my organizations > phone number to discuss this further if you wish. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 12-Jul-09, at 4:06 PM, May and Wynter wrote: > >> >> Ah ok. Most likely for all the things I do, the macbook pro would be >> the way >> to go then. >> >> May and Wynter with a y >> - Original Message - >> From: "Scott Howell" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:12 PM >> Subject: Re: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers. >> >> >>> >>> I can't recall all of the specs and I'd encourage you to go to the >>> Apple site at http://www.apple.com and read up on all the various >>> models. I will tell you that in my opinion, the MacBook Air is a >>> great >>> machine for carrying to and from the office, school, or as a second >>> machine. It is very light, very thin, and lacks a lot of what the >>> larger MacBook and MacBook Pros have. That is correct, there is no >>> CD/ >>> DVD drive, you can however access one from the network on another >>> machine if you choose with some software. They do have a full-size >>> keyboard and are capable of handling a fair number of tasks, but >>> heavy >>> audio processing is not something you'd want to really do with the >>> machine or probably running VmWare on it might not be the best >>> option, >>> but I wouldn't go so far as to say it can't be done. I myself gave my >>> iMac to my wife since she would much prefer the 20-inch screen, but I >>> opted to replace that machine with something equivalent, so I got a >>> MacBook Pro. I ended up with the 15-inch model because I could not >>> have gotten the cpu speed or other options I wanted since I was >>> looking for a direct replacement for my iMac. >>> All this to say if you decide to purchase a Mac, consider carefully >>> all the things you will want to do. There is nothing worse than >>> plunking down a chunk of change to find you didn't make the best >>> choice. >>> >>> Good luck, >>> p to an 80Gb or 160Gb drive. There is only a usb connector and an >>> audio out from >>> >>> On Jul 12, 2009, at 4:40 PM, May and Wynter wrote: >>> Ah ok. One more question, what is the difference between the macbook pro and the air? May and Wynter with a y - Original Message - From: "Jenny Kennedy (Howard)" To: Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers. > > Hi Mae, > > The iMac is the apple version of a full featured desktop computer. > They have another "desktop" that lots of people use as a home > entertainment hub called the Mac Mini. It's all the features of a > CPU > but you provide things like speakers, keyboard/mouse monitor. Then > there are the notebook computers the macbook, macbook pro which has > more power and some different options than the macbook and the > macbook > air which is a smaller lighter sort of notebook, I think they call > them sub-notebooks? But not as small as these netbook things that > seem > to be all the rage. > HTH > Jenny > Olathe, Kansas Usa > >> > >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Crossposted. My first look at the iPhone 3gs. Thoughts and obsurvations.
Hey folks. I did indeed get the iPhone. I went the next day before work and picked it up. I'm now about 2 and a half days into the experience. I'll write a lengthy sumation of my experience so far if you guys are interested to read it. Thanks so much for all the help and encouragement so far. More later. Reeves On Jul 9, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote: > > Josh, > I think you sold me on the iPhone. :-) I had this t-mobile dash? I > think? Huge pain in the neck. I did not like it at all the phone was > bulkey as it was like holding a square of tile up to your head. > Wasn't all that impressed with mobilespeak and didn't see putting down > so much money for a program that at best was only mildly frustrating. > Right now I have no accessability on the handset I'm using. I have > had ringtones set for different people when they call and at one point > I had large pictures of the people too and that helped. But no txting > or web surffing or any of the stuff everyone else gets to do. > > Tell me. If I were to switch providers how much are their rate plans > with internet? I pay about $70 a month now. Also do you have to put > a big deposit down? I didn't when I started using t-mobile four years > ago and have had a good payment record with them over the past several > years. This in fact is the reason I'd be reluctent to switch because > of the fact there may be a deposit as I've really no credit to speak > of and what there is isnt much. > Anyone who can answer, thanks much :-) > > Best Wishes > Jenny > > On 7/9/09, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >> I will try to get my Iphone in the beginning of August, since i'm >> going on vacation and when i get back the Iphone will have been >> released here in Sweden. I can't wait until the 10th of August. >> /Krister >> >> >> 9 jul 2009 kl. 09.58 skrev Jenny Kennedy: >> >>> >>> nods. Yah I can very well understand that. I just wish I knew what >>> if >>> any other service providers were going to have iPhone. Like I said >>> I'm >>> with T-mobile now, contract up in February and not sure what I'm >>> going >>> to do from there. Sooner or later I will wind up getting either the >>> iPhone or iPod Touch. I just got the new iPod nano that speaks for >>> valentine's day this year so can't go asking for another one so >>> soon. >>> LOL But one day... One day ah yes an i something will be mine. :-) >>> >>> On 7/9/09, william lomas wrote: Hi yes the ipod touch is in general, the IPhone, minus the phone but I don't want 2 devices On 9 Jul 2009, at 07:42, Jenny Kennedy wrote: > > Kevin, > I like your report. Sounds like the iPhone sounds pretty good. I > wonder if iPhone is going to be let out to other cell providers? > Currently I'm with T-mobile and my contract is up in February. I > don't > know if I should just stay with t-mobile or switch to a whole new > provider. If they do come out with the iPod touch and it can do > everything, save for the phone functions, maybe that would be the > best > rout. But then There is the whole thing about text msgs and > everything. So much to ponder... I am not sure I want to have > service > via ATT and wonder what if any other cell providers would have > iPhone. > Do any of you think T-mobile would ever get the iPhone or are they > not > popular enough? And the iPod touch is it like the iPhone without > the > whole "phone" bit of things. Perplexing... Very big choices to be > made > Any help most welcome > Best regards > Jenny > > On 7/9/09, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> By using the Volume control while VO is pseaking your volume >> for VO >> can get quite loud. I had the same experance and was glad I >> remembered >> this trick. >> >> Regards, >> Alex, >> >> >> On 8-Jul-09, at 9:37 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: >> >>> >>> I just got back from the Green Hills Apple >>> Store in Nashville >>> Tn. >>> My intention was to go and look at the iPhone, and probably walk >>> out >>> with one if I liked what I saw. However, due to the lengthy >>> process of >>> making a purchase, the apple store stopped selling iPhones about >>> an >>> hour and a half before they closed. I showed up 5 minutes after >>> this >>> cutoff time, but was encouraged to look at the display model as >>> long >>> as I liked until close. Upon enquiring about having a sales >>> person >>> turn on Voiceover, they called on another rep who had more >>> experience >>> with Vo. Turns out, he has some form of visual impairment, >>> which >>> causes him to have to use the zoom feature. He knew right >>> where vo >>> was, and turned it on for me. Now, the journey begins. >>> >>> My immediate observation was that of many o
Re: An IPhone question
Here's what I've found after a few days with the phone. When reading large chunks of text, vo actually sees the text in seveal chunks. Whenever you hear the phone click in the middle of a read, the curser has jumped to a new chunk of text. Not sure if this is broken up in paragaphs, or if this is dependant on how much text is on the screen before it has to scroll. However, these chunks of text seem to be visible by vo when you slide your finger up and down the screen. So, If you have to stop reading a large passage of text, you can come back later, tap in different spots where the text is, and vo will read that bit. Once you find the bit of text where you left off, do a 2 finger flick downward, and the text will start reading from that point, much like an insert down arrow command in Jaws. Hope this sheds some light on this, and maybe someone can chime in and add to these statements or correct any misnomers. This is just a technique I've found in the past 2 days of messing about. Hope that helps. Reeves --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Fusion accessibility?
Hi all, After some playing around with a Mac Pro at work last year I'm about to buy a MacBook Pro for personal use -- if the model I want is ever in stock! I plan to use VMware Fusion as I have an ongoing need to play with both Windows and Linux in VMs. I've used VMware Workstation on Windows for years so am very familiar with the product in general. I've seen some references to people using Fusion here -- is it generally accessible with VO, meaning good enough to be using it daily for key tasks? I do have a long-term aspiration to move some of my activities out of the VMs and onto OS X but in the meantime I need the VM product to be solid. Any input gratefully received, Garry -- Garry Turkington garry.turking...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Article Slamming the iPhone
Hi there, haven't read it. Is this another one that like others we have read is slightly miss informed, with less grounding in reality than we would like? Also is there a link available where we could read such? On 12-Jul-09, at 9:43 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote: > > Did anyone read the article forwarded by Jonathan Mosen on various > lists, which slammed the iPhone? I got it from a friend of mine and I > told her that, if she had any prejudices against the iPhone, to talk > to people who has the iPhone and can speak from firsthand > experiences. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. PS I plan to > purchase my iPhone in August. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Article Slamming the iPhone
Did anyone read the article forwarded by Jonathan Mosen on various lists, which slammed the iPhone? I got it from a friend of mine and I told her that, if she had any prejudices against the iPhone, to talk to people who has the iPhone and can speak from firsthand experiences. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. PS I plan to purchase my iPhone in August. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
slide shows
Hello; I believe i asked this a while back. But since then a new version of ilife has come out. Can anyone suggest a simple program for creating a slide show on my mac? Is the newer version of iphoto accessible enough that I could do it that way? As most people a cheap or free solution would be preferred. Thanks in advance, Max --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Fusion accessibility?
hi garry: I to am a new mac user, bout a month now. I find vmware fusion really easy to use. in fact, I brought over a windows 2008 server machine from windows and got it running fine. overall i don't find the mac version much different than the windows version. hth Chris On Jul 12, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Garry Turkington wrote: > > Hi all, > > After some playing around with a Mac Pro at work last year I'm about > to > buy a MacBook Pro for personal use -- if the model I want is ever in > stock! > > I plan to use VMware Fusion as I have an ongoing need to play with > both > Windows and Linux in VMs. I've used VMware Workstation on Windows for > years so am very familiar with the product in general. > > I've seen some references to people using Fusion here -- is it > generally > accessible with VO, meaning good enough to be using it daily for key > tasks? I do have a long-term aspiration to move some of my > activities out > of the VMs and onto OS X but in the meantime I need the VM product > to be > solid. > > Any input gratefully received, > Garry > > > -- > Garry Turkington > garry.turking...@gmail.com > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Syncing Mac Address Book with Google Contacts question
I am attempting to SYNC my mac with my Google COntacts address book. THis solution is documented in the help file for the Mac address book as well as the help file located on google. I have performed the following steps per the doc. 1) Opened the address book on the Mac, accessed preferences, checked the box that states "sync with google", entered mhy Google account and password when prompted. Note the doc states that if the account and password are correct the dialog prompting for them will close. 2) Opened up ISync accessed preferences and checked the option "show sync in status menu" per the doc. 3) Under address book I am attempting to accesss the status menu per the doc which states "access the sync now option under the status menu. My questions are these. 1) What is the procedure under VO to access the status menu? 2) I find a sync menu however the only option is to enable Sync via Mobil Me. Has anyone had experience with setting up this solution via VoiceOver? -Kevin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Article Slamming the iPhone
Yes, I read it. What do you expectt from leadership of companies being turned on their ear by the Apple accessibility model? Its a growing problem for them. Too bad! On Jul 12, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote: > > Did anyone read the article forwarded by Jonathan Mosen on various > lists, which slammed the iPhone? I got it from a friend of mine and I > told her that, if she had any prejudices against the iPhone, to talk > to people who has the iPhone and can speak from firsthand > experiences. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. PS I plan to > purchase my iPhone in August. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Article Slamming the iPhone
Could someone post a link to the article please. Greg On Jul 13, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Larry Wanger wrote: > > Yes, I read it. What do you expectt from leadership of companies being > turned on their ear by the Apple accessibility model? Its a growing > problem for them. Too bad! > > On Jul 12, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote: > >> >> Did anyone read the article forwarded by Jonathan Mosen on various >> lists, which slammed the iPhone? I got it from a friend of mine >> and I >> told her that, if she had any prejudices against the iPhone, to talk >> to people who has the iPhone and can speak from firsthand >> experiences. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. PS I plan to >> purchase my iPhone in August. >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Article Slamming the iPhone
This comes up when you do a search for Mosen and iPhone on Google. Written before the iPhone with VO came to market I might add. - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" To: Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 11:15 PM Subject: iPhone, a Reality Check > There's been some pretty lively discussion on Twitter since the > announcement > of the new iPhone, which some are calling accessible. As 140 characters > can > be quite limiting, I thought I would make some extended comment through > this > list. > > There seems to be a great deal of excitement over the fact that Apple have > put a screen reader into the iPhone. For no extra cost, someone can go to > AT&T in the US, or your iPhone carrier in other countries, pick up an > iPhone, and get speech without installing any additional software. It can > be > made to talk by enabling the feature from the PC, so no sighted assistance > is required. At face value, the principle is an enticing one, although the > concept is not entirely new. Phones such as some of the LG range have > offered an out of box experience that has varied in its degree of > accessibility for some time. There is also the question of how easily we > as > blind people can influence product enhancements. But hats off to Apple for > getting this done for sure. > > Just because we're blind, doesn't mean we're immune to the latest trend > and > marketing hype. Sighted iPhone devotees love the look of the iPhone, and > its > touch screen. So there are blind people who want an iPhone because it's > trendy. There's nothing inherently wrong with this either. If we want to > be > part of the latest big thing, it is wrong for consumers that happen to be > blind to be locked out. It is worth baring in mind though that Nokia still > well outsells all of its competitors put together in the global market. > > We all use our phones for different purposes, and perhaps it is true that > because screen readers have only run on smartphones, some of us are using > smartphones when we otherwise wouldn't be. A smartphone is all about > productivity. Getting information in and out of the device with ease is > critical. > > There are comments in the Apple documentation, found at > http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html that intrigue me > with > respect to reviewing what is on the screen. They say in part: > > What makes VoiceOver on iPhone truly remarkable is that you control it > using > simple gestures that let you physically interact with items on screen. > It's > easy to learn and fun to use. Instead of memorizing hundreds of keyboard > commands, or endlessly pressing tiny arrow keys to find what you're > looking > for, with VoiceOver, you simply touch the screen to hear a description of > the item under your finger, then gesture with a double-tap, drag, or flick > to control the phone. > > VoiceOver delivers an experience unlike any screen reader you've ever used > before. Traditional screen readers describe individual elements on the > screen, but struggle to communicate where each element is located or > provide > information about adjoining objects. This contextual information is very > important but typically filtered out by other screen readers. For example, > "off-screen" models used by traditional screen readers to represent > applications and web pages intentionally strip away contextual information > and describe web pages as a list or menu of items. But with VoiceOver on > iPhone 3G S, you'll experience something entirely new. > > > > So say the people at Apple. It seems they are indulging in some serious > hyperbole here. As a Talks and Mobile Speak user who uses a lot of the > screen readers' functionality, it is simply not the case that there are > hundreds of commands to remember. Further, are arrow keys and a keyboard > or > number pad really so bad? It would appear to me to be an optimal interface > for a blind person to use. > > > > But the really interesting philosophical point for me relates to their > comment about knowing where information appears on the screen. Apple says > this is important. But this begs the question, who says that where > information appears on the screen of a phone is important? Not many, if > any, > blind people. We're not talking about formatting complex documents here. > We > want to get at our information, whether that be reading a message or > checking our battery status, efficiently. I've used accessible phones for > six years now. Never once has it even occurred to me to wonder where the > power and battery status appears on the screen of my phone. Why should it? > Irrespective of where it appears, I want a foolproof, 100% guaranteed way > of > hearing that information without fuss. The description on the Apple site > simply seeks to turn what is a negative fo
Re: disclosure triangles? How to open/close them?
Hello Jenny and all: Give hitting the spacebar a try and see what that does. On Jul 13, 2009, at 12:17 AM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: > > Hi my mac using friends, > all right. I've gone for two, or two and a half weeks not using the > screen at all . Its pretty nice. I have one tiny little trouble > though. That is those disclosure triangles. Namely in iTunes. In my > podcast lists. How the heck do you open them? I tried the VO shif M > thing but I can't figure it out. I did it a few times on the macbook > keyboard but its kind of broken so using wireless full size keyboard. > It is driving me batty and I can't figure out how to open those little > darlings. > Help? > Mucho thanks. :-) > Jenny > > > Take good care and I wish you enough. Love Me --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
disclosure triangles? How to open/close them?
Hi my mac using friends, all right. I've gone for two, or two and a half weeks not using the screen at all . Its pretty nice. I have one tiny little trouble though. That is those disclosure triangles. Namely in iTunes. In my podcast lists. How the heck do you open them? I tried the VO shif M thing but I can't figure it out. I did it a few times on the macbook keyboard but its kind of broken so using wireless full size keyboard. It is driving me batty and I can't figure out how to open those little darlings. Help? Mucho thanks. :-) Jenny --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: disclosure triangles? How to open/close them?
hey Jennie, you can open and close disclosure triangles with VO backslash. I have to do that to open the various categories for iTunes radio and it works great!! On 12-Jul-09, at 9:17 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: > > Hi my mac using friends, > all right. I've gone for two, or two and a half weeks not using the > screen at all . Its pretty nice. I have one tiny little trouble > though. That is those disclosure triangles. Namely in iTunes. In my > podcast lists. How the heck do you open them? I tried the VO shif M > thing but I can't figure it out. I did it a few times on the macbook > keyboard but its kind of broken so using wireless full size keyboard. > It is driving me batty and I can't figure out how to open those little > darlings. > Help? > Mucho thanks. :-) > Jenny > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Fusion accessibility?
Yes, I can say that for daily use the VM, no matter what OS is perfectly accessible. On Jul 12, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Garry Turkington wrote: > > Hi all, > > After some playing around with a Mac Pro at work last year I'm about > to > buy a MacBook Pro for personal use -- if the model I want is ever in > stock! > > I plan to use VMware Fusion as I have an ongoing need to play with > both > Windows and Linux in VMs. I've used VMware Workstation on Windows for > years so am very familiar with the product in general. > > I've seen some references to people using Fusion here -- is it > generally > accessible with VO, meaning good enough to be using it daily for key > tasks? I do have a long-term aspiration to move some of my > activities out > of the VMs and onto OS X but in the meantime I need the VM product > to be > solid. > > Any input gratefully received, > Garry > > > -- > Garry Turkington > garry.turking...@gmail.com > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers.
M, Mac Pro.If I had a new I7 Mac Pro, that'd be fantastic. I know it would be sacrilegious, but I'd run my Windows music production software on it. Also, the towers are cool looking. > From: s.how...@verizon.net > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mae, iMac, Macbooks and other Apple computers. > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:03:38 -0400 > > > And don't forget the mother of all Macs, the Mac Pro. Of course unless > you have a real reason for a Mac Pro, you won't need one since that is > more horsepower than the average user would need. You can get those > babies with quad Duo Core processors, and enough ram to choke a horse. > Yeah, its like a server, which Apple of course has those as well, but > I forget what they are called. > > On Jul 12, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: > > > > > Hi Mae, > > > > The iMac is the apple version of a full featured desktop computer. > > They have another "desktop" that lots of people use as a home > > entertainment hub called the Mac Mini. It's all the features of a CPU > > but you provide things like speakers, keyboard/mouse monitor. Then > > there are the notebook computers the macbook, macbook pro which has > > more power and some different options than the macbook and the macbook > > air which is a smaller lighter sort of notebook, I think they call > > them sub-notebooks? But not as small as these netbook things that seem > > to be all the rage. > > HTH > > Jenny > > Olathe, Kansas Usa > > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Creating mailboxes with message rules
Hey all, Just wondering how to go about doing this? It wants me to create a mailbox in the "On my Mac" section, but I want it where my sent and trash and all that stuff are for these lists so I can get private mail in my inbox. But when I create it I don't really want it to go into the "RSS"section either so to speak. I just want it to go where the mailboxes go, like the default inbox, etc. Than I want to take messages with a certain subject, for example [macvoiceover], to be put into a Mac VOiceOver mailbox. Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
