Re: website audio question

2009-06-17 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,

I know that Webkit can detect if VO is running, so you may just  
request this as a feature. I'm sure non-VO users will approve as well.  
It has to come from Apple/The Webkit crew.

Regards,
Alex,


On 16-Jun-09, at 8:10 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

>
> Hi group;  Ok, so can someone tell me how I turn the audio off when a
> webpage loads?  I tell you nothing is more annoying than having to
> turn my vo volume all the way up just to try to get to the one link i
> need so their music will stop playing.  In jaws it was the escape key,
> but I've never found anything about how to do this on a mac.  Please
> help.  Thanks, Max
>
> >


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Re: website audio question

2009-06-17 Thread Justin Harford

Just turn off the java and plugins under security
On Jun 17, 2009, at 7:46 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I know that Webkit can detect if VO is running, so you may just
> request this as a feature. I'm sure non-VO users will approve as well.
> It has to come from Apple/The Webkit crew.
>
> Regards,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 16-Jun-09, at 8:10 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi group;  Ok, so can someone tell me how I turn the audio off when a
>> webpage loads?  I tell you nothing is more annoying than having to
>> turn my vo volume all the way up just to try to get to the one link i
>> need so their music will stop playing.  In jaws it was the escape  
>> key,
>> but I've never found anything about how to do this on a mac.  Please
>> help.  Thanks, Max
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Free OCR

2009-06-17 Thread Chris Blouch

Anyone ever use one of these free OCR sites? I played with this one and 
it seemed to do a reasonable job:

http://www.free-ocr.com/

You just upload a bitmap scan and it spits back the results. Some 
minimal limitations such as single pages and 10 pages per hour but the 
site worked ok with VO.

CB

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Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-17 Thread Chris Blouch
I guess what I heard was that Apple in the early days was shopping 
around their early prototypes and demos to different phone companies. 
Unlike most phone vendors they wanted no meddling from the carrier and 
would simply deliver their device 'as is'. That wasn't (isn't) the way 
it was done but they also offered the carrier exclusive rights in 
exchange for pretty much accepting the Apple device in whatever form it 
came out as. I heard VZ got the pitch and wouldn't give Apple the time 
of day but ATT took the gamble and have been well rewarded for it. Sure 
all the other carriers are now kicking themselves but it was a big risk 
for ATT to partner with Apple, who never before made a phone. Of course 
Apple thought they had a hit but how was ATT to know that? Anyway, in 
2010 the exclusive deal ends and now that the tail is wagging the dog, 
Apple no longer needs ATT and can do what it wants. That said, there was 
also a 5 year deal that Apple would only use GSM in the US so that still 
blocks Sprint and VZ for a while longer. The rest of the world is GSM, 
so maybe this would kick Sprint and VZ off their non-standard networking 
ways in order to get in on the iPhone game.

CB

Scott Howell wrote:
> Yes I have said this Larry and I have it on good authority VZW will  
> get the iPhone. As far as when, I don't know, but you can bet VZW  
> wants it and so do their customers. As far as the agreement with AT&T,  
> I believe that exclusive agreement ends this year and I know AT&T was  
> trying to extend this deal, but Apple I believe is not interested in  
> doing that. And in fact Apple would be doing themselves no favors by  
> extending the agreement with AT&T and would only benefit by entering  
> into contracts with other carriers. At this point Apple has proven to  
> all wireless carriers the viability of the iPhone. THis is the reason  
> why AT&T got the exclusive rights to begin with as I understand it.  
> AT&T was willing to take a risk for the exclusive rights and carriers  
> like VZW wouldn't bite when first approached and now regret that  
> decision. I suspect AT&T has benefitted considerably from the sale of  
> the iPhone.
>
> On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Larry Wanger wrote:
>
>   
>> Scott,
>>
>> In a couple of previous messages you've said that the iPhone will be
>> on the Verizon network. I'm not sure about the validity of what you
>> are saying. Apple and at&t have an exclusive contract. The length of
>> this contract isn't really clear and, in light of some things said
>> yesterday, I am thinking that Apple might look to make some changes at
>> the end of the deal. But, its very well known that these two companies
>> have an exclusive deal in the United States.
>>
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> It does work, will work, and blind people will have no problems using
>>> the iPhone. I know for fact this is the case and I have gotten
>>> Confirmation from a source. Point is, like anything, there may be a
>>> learning curve, but it will work and it will be up to you to  
>>> determine
>>> if it fits your needs.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> 
>
>
> >
>   

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Re: Problem sinking Ipod in new release of Itunes

2009-06-17 Thread Scott Howell

Simon, that is very curious. How long is the list of playlists? I  
believe I have at least somewhere between eight and 10. If you have  
something like 20 or 30, that might take some work to create, but I'm  
just wondering if I could reproduce the problem here. I have never  
used the scrolling command to navigate through a list of playlists. No  
problem in trying to help, I don't mind, just need to see if I can  
recreate the situation perhaps. Maybe someone else has a similar and  
can comment. If you want to send me a note off list and go into more  
detail, feel free or we can even tag up on Skype perhaps. THe  
situation really interests me.

On Jun 17, 2009, at 1:32 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> The problem occurs when I'm actually sinking the Ipod in the Ipod
> setting area, not in the source list. I choose the music tab which
> then gives me a choice of either sinking everything in my music
> library or just the selected playlists. I then interact with the table
> of my playlists which in my case is rather long. I have never been
> able to use just VO commands or just arrow keys to go the whole way
> down the table of playlists. I had to use the scroll command vo+shift
> +s and then use arrow keys to scroll the list and finish scrolling by
> pressing escape key. (Esther's helpful instructions, if I remember
> correctly) If I don't scroll using the specific command, I can't check
> thee relevant boxes next to the names of the list of playlists.
> Although I may hear the names of the playlists while just using my
> arrow keys, when attempting to check the boxes, I seem to be checking
> the wrong lists unless I use the scroll command and actually move the
> relevant playlists into view.
>
> Secondly, the crashing of Itunes happens after I execute the scroll
> command vo+shift+s and then when attempting to scroll. I get the usual
> problem reporter from the system.
>
> Thank you for your patience in trying to help.
>
> With best wishes
>
> Simon
> On 16 Jun 2009, at 23:04, Scott Howell wrote:
>
>>
>> Simon, a couple more questions.
>>
>> First are you in the source list where the various playlists are or
>> are you referring to the table where the list of playlists are, which
>> shows up when your iPod is connected. This table appears in the iPod
>> settings under the Music tab. I do not use VO-shift-s to scroll. You
>> should be able to tab to the sources table and simply arrow up/down  
>> or
>> if you are in the iPod settings area and you can simply interact with
>> the table of playlists you wish to sync with your iPod and use the
>> regular arrow keys to move through the table or of course you can use
>> the VO navigation as well.
>> I just want to better understand what your doing exactly. In all  
>> cases
>> I have not had any problems with navigating using VO-keys or regular
>> arrow keys. Can you explain a little more and also explain at which
>> point iTUnes crashes? I'm assuming iTunes quits and you get the
>> Problem Reporter popup? Also, do you recall when this problem  
>> started?
>> I know there are a number of questions here, but want to be sure I
>> understand the situation as much as possible.
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi scott,
>>> yes, Itunes works normally otherwise. Are you able to scroll down
>>> yourp laylist table while sinking selected palylists? Can you hear
>>> the
>>> soun as you are scrolling?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Scott, Simon
>>> On 16 Jun 2009, at 22:22, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>

 Simon, I have not encountered this problem. Does iTunes work
 normally
 otherwise? If not, I wonder if your library has become corrupted
 perhaps.

 On Jun 16, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:

>
> Hello Listers,
>
> I've just noticed that I am not able to sink my Ipod with the
> selected
> playlists in the new Itunes. Every time I try to scroll down the
> list
> of the playlists, my Itunes crashes. I also no longer hear the
> characteristic wooshing sound when scrolling is executed with vo
> +shift
> +s command. I've just notified Apple of this bug. I just wonder
> whether anyone else has experienced this?
>
> With best wishes
>
> Simon
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-17 Thread Scott Howell

Well keep in mind that VZW is planning to move away from CDMA. How  
this will actually occur I don't have any details and I had not heard  
there was some sort of five year agreement to only use GSM. The  
technology VZW is planning to move toward is apparently a sooped-up  
version of GSM. Either way, I'm willing to wait for one of two things  
to happen and one will surely happen.

1. AT&T expands coverage and especially in the Metro Rail system here or
2 VZW gets the iPhone.

The possibility of AT&T like other GSM carriers may very well gain  
access to the subway here because I believe VZW's exclusive agreement  
to be the only carrier in the system has or is going to expire.
So, there is hope, but honestly I'm willing to wait a while and see  
where things go with VZW. Here their network has out performed all  
other carriers or at least the GSM carriers, but of course everyone  
will have different results depending upon where they live.


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Re: Problem sinking Ipod in new release of Itunes

2009-06-17 Thread Simon Cavendish

Dear Scott,

Thank you for trying for me. ITunes works fine otherwise. It's only  
this thing that has transpired since the last update.

With best wisehs

Simon
On 16 Jun 2009, at 22:22, Scott Howell wrote:

>
> Simon, I have not encountered this problem. Does iTunes work normally
> otherwise? If not, I wonder if your library has become corrupted
> perhaps.
>
> On Jun 16, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello Listers,
>>
>> I've just noticed that I am not able to sink my Ipod with the  
>> selected
>> playlists in the new Itunes. Every time I try to scroll down the list
>> of the playlists, my Itunes crashes. I also no longer hear the
>> characteristic wooshing sound when scrolling is executed with vo 
>> +shift
>> +s command. I've just notified Apple of this bug. I just wonder
>> whether anyone else has experienced this?
>>
>> With best wishes
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: ipod nano question

2009-06-17 Thread gene

Hi Scott, yeah I choose the reset settings and pressed the center button on 
the ok button but the main menue still doesn't speak and I am holding the 
ipod with the wheel at the boddom.
- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Howell" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: ipod nano question


>
> Stupid question perhaps, but are you holding the Nano so the wheel is
> at the bottom? Did you try resetting it from iTunes? I have not
> experienced this problem with my Nano, but I have on at least one
> occasion found it necessary to reset the Nano completely, which meant
> I had to basically start over, but it had gotten really hosed in some
> fashion.
>
> On Jun 15, 2009, at 7:45 PM, gene wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Alex, I tried the main menu again and all it said is view pannel on
>> running my finger around the vertual dial just clicked.
>
>
> >
> 


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Fwd: U.S. senators ask FCC to examine exclusive cell phone deals

2009-06-17 Thread Scott Howell
Folks, the discussion of wireless carriers and exclusive agreements  
that have been on the list lately has been interesting. This article  
may interest you then.

Begin forwarded message:

> Date: June 17, 2009 9:00:00 AM EDT
> Subject: U.S. senators ask FCC to examine exclusive cell phone deals
> Source: AppleInsider
>
> A group of U.S. senators this week asked the Federal Communications  
> Commission to step in and examine whether exclusive relationships  
> between wireless carriers and handset makers are in the best  
> interest of customers.
> Read moreā€¦
>

Scott Howell
s.how...@verizon.net




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Re: Problem sinking Ipod in new release of Itunes

2009-06-17 Thread Dean Hudson

Simon:
You are not alone.  The iTUnes group is aware of the issue and were  
able to reproduce.
On Jun 17, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:

>
> Dear Scott,
>
> Thank you for trying for me. ITunes works fine otherwise. It's only
> this thing that has transpired since the last update.
>
> With best wisehs
>
> Simon
> On 16 Jun 2009, at 22:22, Scott Howell wrote:
>
>>
>> Simon, I have not encountered this problem. Does iTunes work normally
>> otherwise? If not, I wonder if your library has become corrupted
>> perhaps.
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello Listers,
>>>
>>> I've just noticed that I am not able to sink my Ipod with the
>>> selected
>>> playlists in the new Itunes. Every time I try to scroll down the  
>>> list
>>> of the playlists, my Itunes crashes. I also no longer hear the
>>> characteristic wooshing sound when scrolling is executed with vo
>>> +shift
>>> +s command. I've just notified Apple of this bug. I just wonder
>>> whether anyone else has experienced this?
>>>
>>> With best wishes
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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RE: Pricing on Snow Leopard

2009-06-17 Thread Kevin Reeves

So how are they doing this? Is this gonna be an update pushed to the leopard
machines after a purchase is made, or do you go to an apple store and show
proof of purchase and get a retail copy. If you get a disk, will it be a
full install, or just an upgrade disk, whereby you need leopard first, much
like the windows disks. Just some random questions. 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pricing on Snow Leopard


well, i'm sure the intel machines that use tiger will use leopard.  
only power pc macs won't work.

On Jun 16, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Brent Harding wrote:

>
> Wow, I like that they do the honor system with this. I hope people 
> don't start abusing it and buying it for Tiger machines, but most of 
> the stuff running Tiger probably won't support it anyways.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Howell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Pricing on Snow Leopard
>
>
>>
>> You should contact Apple and register the machine with them. I may be 
>> wrong on this since I have not purchased a machine in this way, but 
>> when you install the OS, you register and that info is updated. You 
>> could call Apple Care at (1-800) 275-2273 and see if you can register 
>> it in your name. Either way, I don't think it will make any 
>> difference. Either way, I would not be concerned about this because 
>> of course once you get your copy of Snow Leopard, you would be 
>> registering it in your name and there is as far as I can recall no 
>> proof of purchase required when purchasing the upgrade.
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2009, at 9:27 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Oh, I thought I heard that it gets to be a problem with ones sold on 
>>> Ebay because the machine itself might be registered in someone 
>>> else's name.
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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IPhone Howto

2009-06-17 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,
All,

Here is an iPhone howto.

The URL is:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/how-to/#accessibility.iphone3gs-accessibility-features
 
  .

Regards,
Alex,



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Re: Pricing on Snow Leopard

2009-06-17 Thread Dan Eickmeier

Good questions Kevin, haven't really heard anything as of yet.  With  
such a low price, i'd think it'd just be an upgrade disc, but not  
sure.  Hard to say.
On Jun 17, 2009, at 11:48 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote:

>
> So how are they doing this? Is this gonna be an update pushed to the  
> leopard
> machines after a purchase is made, or do you go to an apple store  
> and show
> proof of purchase and get a retail copy. If you get a disk, will it  
> be a
> full install, or just an upgrade disk, whereby you need leopard  
> first, much
> like the windows disks. Just some random questions.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:42 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Pricing on Snow Leopard
>
>
> well, i'm sure the intel machines that use tiger will use leopard.
> only power pc macs won't work.
>
> On Jun 16, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Brent Harding wrote:
>
>>
>> Wow, I like that they do the honor system with this. I hope people
>> don't start abusing it and buying it for Tiger machines, but most of
>> the stuff running Tiger probably won't support it anyways.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Howell" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: Pricing on Snow Leopard
>>
>>
>>>
>>> You should contact Apple and register the machine with them. I may  
>>> be
>>> wrong on this since I have not purchased a machine in this way, but
>>> when you install the OS, you register and that info is updated. You
>>> could call Apple Care at (1-800) 275-2273 and see if you can  
>>> register
>>> it in your name. Either way, I don't think it will make any
>>> difference. Either way, I would not be concerned about this because
>>> of course once you get your copy of Snow Leopard, you would be
>>> registering it in your name and there is as far as I can recall no
>>> proof of purchase required when purchasing the upgrade.
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2009, at 9:27 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>>>

 Oh, I thought I heard that it gets to be a problem with ones sold  
 on
 Ebay because the machine itself might be registered in someone
 else's name.
>>>
>>>

>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
> >


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Re: Pricing on Snow Leopard

2009-06-17 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,

They usually don't have upgrade disks. They are usually full install  
disks.

Regards,
Alex,


On 17-Jun-09, at 8:48 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote:

>
> So how are they doing this? Is this gonna be an update pushed to the  
> leopard
> machines after a purchase is made, or do you go to an apple store  
> and show
> proof of purchase and get a retail copy. If you get a disk, will it  
> be a
> full install, or just an upgrade disk, whereby you need leopard  
> first, much
> like the windows disks. Just some random questions.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:42 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Pricing on Snow Leopard
>
>
> well, i'm sure the intel machines that use tiger will use leopard.
> only power pc macs won't work.
>
> On Jun 16, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Brent Harding wrote:
>
>>
>> Wow, I like that they do the honor system with this. I hope people
>> don't start abusing it and buying it for Tiger machines, but most of
>> the stuff running Tiger probably won't support it anyways.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Howell" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: Pricing on Snow Leopard
>>
>>
>>>
>>> You should contact Apple and register the machine with them. I may  
>>> be
>>> wrong on this since I have not purchased a machine in this way, but
>>> when you install the OS, you register and that info is updated. You
>>> could call Apple Care at (1-800) 275-2273 and see if you can  
>>> register
>>> it in your name. Either way, I don't think it will make any
>>> difference. Either way, I would not be concerned about this because
>>> of course once you get your copy of Snow Leopard, you would be
>>> registering it in your name and there is as far as I can recall no
>>> proof of purchase required when purchasing the upgrade.
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2009, at 9:27 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>>>

 Oh, I thought I heard that it gets to be a problem with ones sold  
 on
 Ebay because the machine itself might be registered in someone
 else's name.
>>>
>>>

>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
> >


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safari update

2009-06-17 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.

Hi List;  As a lot of others safari 4.0 has been less stable than the  
previous version.  At least that's my feeling.  So, I thought you  
would want to know that 4.1 is out now.  I found it by checking to see  
if there is any new software.  I just downloaded it.  I hope it  
helps.  Good luck, Max

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